Brief
Holy See
The claims the writer was given for Holy See, in the order they were given.
1
The Holy See announced a press conference for 11:30 A.M. on 2000-06-26 to present the document of the message of Fatima.
“The Holy See announced a press conference for 11:30 A.M. that day, during which the document of the message of Fatima would be presented.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:14065-14192 administrative
2
Pope Pius XII helped back-channel information about the Magenta UFO crash to Franklin D. Roosevelt.
“And then he helped back channel the information back to FDR.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:05:20.6-01:05:23.8 testimony first hand
3
Diana Walsh Pasulka has spoken about access to the Vatican archives and went there with Tim Taylor, hinting that the Holy See knows much more than is apparent.
“And then you have Pasulka talking about access to the Vatican archives and, you know, her going with Tim Taylor and hinting that they know much more than meets the eye.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:05:33.0-01:05:42.3 hearsay second hand
4
Chris Ramsay, referring to Diana Walsh Pasulka's research, says the word rendered as "cloud" in translations of religious texts was originally a word meaning object, and was replaced with "cloud".
“like with Diana, like a lot of the research and the words they use and stuff that was potentially changed in the translation to sort of mask a lot of this stuff, like the word cloud, apparently. was actually like object or something. And so they replaced it with cloud.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:05:53.9-01:06:10.7 hearsay second hand
5
Once a year, within the grounds of Vatican City, a UFO research group meets and discusses historical unidentified flying object material, at a location Jesse Michels renders in rough translation as St Anne's Cathedral.
“And they have in, I think it's like the rough translation is like St. Anne's Cathedral. There's once a year within the grounds of the Vatican, there is a UFO research group that meets up and discusses this old stuff.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:06:18.1-01:06:32.6 testimony first hand
6
Kirsan Ilyumzhinov attended an interfaith event at the Vatican with representatives of many religions present.
“he had this invite to this Vatican event or whatever and it was like faiths of all you know it was like every religion or whatever representatives would go or whatever and Kirsan was there”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:09:11.1-01:09:20.6 observation first hand
7
At the Vatican interfaith event attended by Jesse Michels, the Pope left without engaging with attendees and did not accept the chess piece from Kirsan Ilyumzhinov.
“the pope ended up like kind of scurrying off ... No, he didn't, like, engage with anybody.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:09:24.0-01:09:25.6 observation first hand
8
Kirsan Ilyumzhinov gave the chess piece to a senior cleric at the Vatican event as a representative of the Pope, in Jesse Michels's presence.
“And he gives him the chess piece because he's a representative of the Pope.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:10:01.2-01:10:03.4 observation first hand
9
Jesse Michels shook hands at the Vatican event with a man he was afterwards told by another attendee was the Cardinal Secretary of State of the Holy See.
“He goes, that was the cardinal secretary of state, which is the number two to the pope”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:10:12.2-01:10:18.1 testimony second hand
10
Jesse Michels considers the Cardinal Secretary of State to be the number two figure to the Pope, holding more political power than the Pope, whom he regards as a figurehead.
“that was the cardinal secretary of state, which is the number two to the pope and has more political power than the pope. The pope is like the figurehead.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:10:13.2-01:10:22.3 opinion first hand
11
A week or two after the Vatican interfaith event, Jesse Michels learned from an unstated source that the Cardinal Secretary of State of the Holy See had in certain instances expressed an interest in UFOs.
“then I find out a week or two later that in certain instances, he's expressed interest in UFOs”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:10:42.2-01:10:49.1 hearsay