Brief
Vatican
The claims the writer was given for Vatican, in the order they were given.
1
Lúcia (Fatima seer)'s steps toward becoming a nun were guided by Church authorities who were at that time investigating the incidents at Fatima and wanted to have her under their control so they could control the cult of Fatima itself.
“her steps were guided by Church authorities, who at that time were investigating the incidents at Fatima. They wanted to have her under their control, so they could control the cult of Fatima itself.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch13:12137-12329 opinion first hand
2
After Lúcia (Fatima seer)'s departure from Aljustrel, all religious proclamations at the Cova da Iria chapel were made by priests appointed by the Church.
“There, all religious proclamations were made by priests who were appointed by the Church.”
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3
It was difficult at first to find a priest for the Cova da Iria chapel because the Fatima apparitions had not yet been officially recognised by the Catholic Church.
“It was difficult, at first, to find a priest for the chapel, since the visions of Fatima had not yet been officially recognized by the Church.”
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4
Sidonio Pais established official diplomatic relations between Portugal and the Vatican in June 1918.
“In June he established official diplomatic relations with the Vatican.”
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5
Lúcia (Fatima seer)'s withdrawal into the seclusion of the Carmelite order suited the opponents of Fatima devotion within the Vatican.
“Her withdrawal into the strict and almost total seclusion of the Carmelite order suited the opponents of Fatima only too well.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch15:14503-14624 opinion
6
Some people in the Vatican opposed the consecration of Russia because they aimed to first establish diplomatic connections with Moscow, fearing the Soviets might interpret a papal proclamation as intervention in their internal affairs and jeopardise hopes of relief for Christians in Russia.
“But there were people in the Vatican who were not at all in favor of this step. Their aim was to first establish diplomatic connections with Moscow. The Soviets might interpret such a papal proclamation as a deliberate act of intervention in their internal affairs. They felt that it would be irresponsible for the pope to perform a naive and sentimental act that could jeopardize all their hopes for obtaining relief for the Christians in Russia.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch15:14804-15244 opinion
7
An official Vatican statement noted that no pope had ever consecrated any country in which non-Christians or Protestants were in the majority.
“An official statement was made that "no pope has ever consecrated any country in which non-Christians or Protestants are in the majority."”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch15:15252-15380 administrative second hand
8
A press report said that Rome's attitude toward Fatima was reported to have changed considerably, moving from popularity and enthusiasm to coolness, indifference, and disillusion.
“"Rome's attitude toward Fatima is reported to have changed considerably," said a press report. "The short period of popularity and enthusiasm has given way to one of coolness, indifference, and disillusion."”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch15:15393-15586 hearsay second hand
9
Despite being called the 'pope of Fatima', Pius XII did not succeed in overcoming Vatican opposition to performing the consecration act desired by the Virgin Mary.
“Nevertheless the "pope of Fatima" did not succeed in overcoming the opposition in the Vatican to performing the act desired by the Madonna.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch15:16199-16330 opinion
10
Pope Pius XII eventually ordered that Sister Lúcia was only allowed to meet with people she was already in contact with, and that anyone else wanting to meet her needed Vatican permission.
“Eventually the pope ordered that Sister Lúcia was only allowed to meet with those people whom she was already in contact with, and anyone else who wanted to meet her would have to get permission from the Vatican.”
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11
The Third Secret of Fatima that the Virgin Mary had revealed to the three children would become the most zealously guarded secret of the Vatican.
“The Third Secret that the Madonna had revealed to the three children would become the most zealously guarded secret of the Vatican.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch15:19282-19405 opinion
12
During the jubilee year of 1942, the Portuguese bishops again petitioned Rome to have the pope consecrate Russia to the Mother of God, but the Vatican remained silent until 1942-10-13.
“During the jubilee year the Portuguese bishops once again sent a petition to Rome, begging the pope to consecrate Russia to the Mother of God. To their disappointment the Vatican remained silent until October 13, when it was suddenly and unexpectedly announced that the pope would send a message to the world on October 31, at the official end of the jubilee.”
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13
The 1960 announcement stated that because of pressure on the Vatican from those wanting publication and fears from others that it might contain alarming prophecies, the Vatican decided to keep Sister Lúcia's letter sealed, and that it was likely the secret would remain sealed forever.
“Because of the pressure on the Vatican by those who want the letter to be published, and the fears of others that it may contain alarming prophecies, the Vatican has decided not to open Sister Lúcia’s letter, but to keep it sealed. It is likely that the secret of Fatima will remain sealed forever.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch16:12679-12969 administrative second hand
14
Bishop da Silva wanted to send the Third Secret to Rome, but the Vatican instructed him to keep the envelope at Leiria for the present.
“Bishop da Silva, on the other hand, wanted to send it to Rome. But the Vatican instructed him to keep the envelope at Leiria for the present.”
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15
The Third Secret envelope was kept in the most secure part of the Vatican, the private quarters of Pope Pius XII.
“The envelope was kept in the most secure part of the Vatican, the private quarters of Pope Pius XII.”
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16
Father Fuentes was relieved of his office by the Vatican owing to his indiscretion in publishing his speech about Sister Lúcia.
“Owing to his indiscretion Father Fuentes was relieved of his office by the Vatican.”
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17
Early in 1959 a high official in the Vatican suggested to Pope John XXIII that Sister Lúcia be permitted to speak to the world over the radio, but the pope turned the suggestion down.
“When, early in 1959, a high official in the Vatican suggested to Pope John XXIII that Sister Lúcia be permitted to speak to the world over the radio, he turned him down.”
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18
The Vatican maintained official silence regarding the Third Secret of Fatima until the fiftieth anniversary of the events at Fatima.
“Officially, the Vatican declared silence regarding the matter, a silence that lasted until the fiftieth anniversary of the events at Fatima.”
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19
Louis Emrich said the Vatican had taken all precautions to make sure the Third Secret of Fatima document remains a papal secret.
“The Vatican has taken all precautions to make sure that the document remains a papal secret.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch17:2770-2855 opinion first hand
20
The diplomatic version of the Third Secret of Fatima had allegedly been sent by the Vatican to the governments of Washington, London, and Moscow during the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis (1962-10) a year before its publication.
“which had allegedly been sent by the Vatican to the governments of Washington, London, and Moscow during the height of the Cuban Missile Crisis a year earlier”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch17:302-453 hearsay second hand
21
According to European News, the agreement signed by the foreign ministers of the United Kingdom and Russia and the U.S. secretary of state to stop atomic bomb tests was due to intervention by the Vatican.
“According to the magazine the agreement signed by the foreign ministers of the United Kingdom and Russia, and the U.S. secretary of state, to stop atomic bomb tests, was 'due to intervention by the Vatican.'”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch17:463-661 hearsay second hand
22
Mrs. Emrich told Hans Bender that Louis Emrich worked on the Fatima story for some time before its 1963-10-15 publication and already had some information about the probable contents of the document guarded by the Vatican as a state secret.
“Emrich worked on the Fatima story for quite some time before the publication on October 15, 1963, and already had some information about the probable contents of the document guarded by the Vatican as a state secret.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch17:6932-7141 testimony second hand
23
Mrs. Emrich told Hans Bender that a priest from the Vatican visited Louis Emrich and clearly emphasised that he had not been sent officially, but had come for his own reasons.
“Then a priest from the Vatican visited him, who clearly emphasized that he had not been sent officially, but that he had come for his own reasons.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch17:7149-7287 testimony second hand
24
The Emrich version of the diplomatic Third Secret of Fatima was never either confirmed or denied by the Catholic Church.
“Interestingly enough, the Emrich version was never either confirmed or denied by the Church.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch17:8818-8903 observation
25
Joseph Ratzinger's name has been brought up many times as a possible candidate for the papacy.
“Ratzinger is a conservative member of the Vatican, whose name has been brought up many times as a possible candidate for the papacy.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch18:7664-7789 opinion
26
According to the declassified documents, the KGB planted a recording device inside the Madonna statue belonging to the Vatican secretary of state.
“As the documents revealed, the KGB even planted a recording device within the Madonna statue of the Vatican secretary of state.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch19:14380-14501 hearsay second hand
27
Every Wednesday, unless travelling abroad, John Paul II received pilgrims at 5:00 PM, in a hall of the Vatican in winter or in St. Peter's Square in summer.
“Every Wednesday, unless he was on one of his frequent journeys abroad, the pope received pilgrims at 5:00 P.M., in winter in a hall of the Vatican, in summer in the open square.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch19:768-938 administrative
28
The Vatican instructed the local bishop to form a new commission to study the Medjugorje apparitions, which as of the time of writing had not yet reached a final judgment because the apparitions were still continuing.
“But the Vatican came to the aid of Medjugorje. Rome gave instructions to the bishop to form a new commission to study them, which, since the apparitions are still continuing, has not yet arrived at a final judgment.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch22:3323-3529 observation
29
Further apparitions and messages associated with the María statue near Los Angeles included secrets for the Vatican, which the community's priest brought to Rome personally.
“There followed further apparitions and messages, including some secrets for the Vatican, which the priest of the community brought to Rome personally.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch23:4928-5067 testimony
30
The Third Secret of Fatima was revealed only at the end of the two-and-a-half hour ceremony on 2000-05-13, after priests who had distributed the blessed sacrament to the crowd returned to their places.
“Not until the end of the two-and-a-half hour ceremony, during which Sister Lúcia received the Holy Communion from the hands of the pope, was the Secret revealed. After the hundreds of priests who had walked out into the crowd to distribute the blessed sacrament returned to their places, a speech by Cardinal Sodano, the secretary of state for the Vatican, was announced.”
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31
On 2000-06-05, newly elected Russian president Vladimir Putin visited the Vatican for a confidential meeting.
“On Monday, June 5, 2000, the newly elected Russian president Vladimir Putin visited the Vatican for a confidential meeting.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:16436-16551 administrative
32
The 2000-06-14 pardon of Mehmet Ali Ağca had been discussed with the Vatican beforehand and was supported by John Paul II.
“This was discussed with the Vatican beforehand and supported by the pope.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:17106-17174 administrative
33
In response to sceptics who requested publication of Sister Lúcia's handwritten notes, the Vatican released a facsimile of her handwriting together with examples of letters she had written by hand three years earlier.
“Skeptics requested the publication of Lúcia's handwritten notes. In its wisdom, the Vatican released a facsimile of her handwriting, together with several examples of letters that she had written by hand three years ago.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:24446-24662 administrative
34
Father Nicholas Gruner, in an immediate press release, accused the Vatican of whitewashing and watering down the message of the Third Secret of Fatima.
“In an immediate press release from the renegade Canadian priest Father Nicholas Gruner, he accused the Vatican of "whitewashing" and "watering down" the message.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:25504-25657 opinion first hand
35
Father Nicholas Gruner said the Vatican's official interpretation of the Third Secret of Fatima raises far more questions than it answers.
“"The official interpretation raises far more questions than it answers," he stated.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:25667-25742 opinion first hand
36
Michael Hesemann spent the week following the Vatican's press conference in Rome, speaking to several Vatican sources and conducting a long interview with Archbishop Tarcisio Bertone, to find answers about the Third Secret of Fatima.
“I decided to spend the following week in Rome, speaking to several Vatican sources and doing a long interview with Archbishop Bertone, to find the answers to these questions.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:25751-25915 administrative first hand
37
Swiss journalist Louis Emrich, the originator of the diplomatic version of the Third Secret of Fatima, admitted that it was constructed on rumours and information he received from the Vatican and was not meant to be the original text.
“As we know, even the originator of that version, the Swiss journalist Louis Emrich, admitted that it was constructed on rumors and information he received from the Vatican and that it was not meant to be the original text.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:26096-26313 testimony first hand
38
Archbishop Tarcisio Bertone's research found no evidence of a Vatican leak or support for Louis Emrich's claim that the Third Secret was shown to Nikita Khrushchev or John F. Kennedy.
“Archbishop Bertone's research has not revealed any evidence of a Vatican leak, or for Emrich's claim that the Secret was shown to Krushchev or Kennedy.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:26658-26801 observation second hand
39
Michael Hesemann considers it possible that the Vatican peace initiative was influenced by the Fatima message.
“Still, it is possible that the Vatican peace initiative was influenced by the Fatima message.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:26810-26895 opinion first hand
40
In May 1873, Saint Don Bosco had a vision of a dark night in which a crowd of men, women, old people, children, monks, nuns, and priests, headed by the pope, came out of the Vatican in procession before a violent storm darkened a magnificent light, and a square appeared covered with corpses and wounded people.
“"It was a dark night, the people were unable to discern which way to take to return to their homes, when in the heavens a magnificent light appeared, illuminating the paths of the wanderers as if it was midday. In this moment, a crowd of men, women, old people, children, monks, nuns, and priests, headed by the pope, came out of the Vatican and formed a procession. But behold, there came a violent storm. It darkened the light and a battle between the light and the darkness seemed to develop. Meanwhile, I saw a square covered with corpses and wounded people.…"”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:31373-31927 testimony first hand
41
The Vatican officially remained silent about whether John Paul II would return to Portugal, Fatima following the November 1999 remark.
“Officially, the Vatican kept silent.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:3719-3748 administrative
42
John Paul II wanted his 2000 visit to Portugal, Fatima to be a highlight of the Vatican's Jubilee Year, a yearlong celebration of two thousand years of Christianity.
“The pope wanted the trip to be a special event, a highlight of the Vatican’s Jubilee Year, a yearlong celebration of two thousand years of Christianity.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:3997-4136 opinion
43
About a hundred children, some from the same hospital where Jacinta Marto had died eighty years earlier, greeted John Paul II at Lisbon Airport, waving flags in the Vatican colours of white and yellow.
“About a hundred children, some from the same hospital where Jacinta had died eighty years ago, greeted him, waving flags in the Vatican colors of white and yellow.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch24:6298-6454 observation
44
Michael Hesemann considers the message of Fatima to have influenced the secret policy of the Vatican from Pope Pius XII to John Paul II.
“It influenced the secret policy of the Vatican, the smallest but most influential state on earth, from Pope Pius XII to John Paul II, who believes it to be his mission to fulfill the Fatima prophecy.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch5:5613-5803 opinion first hand
45
Michael Hesemann has travelled to Italy, Rome many times from his home in Germany and spoken with Vatican insiders about the contents of the Third Secret of Fatima.
“I've traveled to Rome many times from my home in Germany, and spoken with Vatican insiders, about the contents of the Third Secret.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch7:4744-4868 administrative first hand
46
Michael Hesemann considers the Fatima apparitions to have had a deep impact on the secret policies of the Vatican.
“Fatima had a deep impact on the secret policies of the Vatican, which is the smallest state, yet the most influential superpower, on earth.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch7:5471-5604 opinion first hand
47
Corrado Balducci has been a high-ranking member of the Vatican for fifty-two years.
“He has been a high-ranking member of the Vatican for fifty-two years”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch7:7589-7652 administrative
48
Corrado Balducci worked for several years as an exorcist in the Vatican for Pope Paul VI.
“For several years he worked as an exorcist in the Vatican for Pope Paul VI.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch7:7756-7828 administrative
49
Pope John XXIII read the sealed envelope in a closed room at Castel Gandolfo in the presence only of a Vatican interpreter and his confessor, Monsignor Alfredo Cavagna.
“He had arranged for a Vatican interpreter to be present, in case there was difficulty understanding the Portuguese text. Sitting in a closed room, with only the interpreter and his confessor, Monsignor Alfredo Cavagna, present, the pope read the words that Sister Lúcia had written down fifteen years before.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch8:961-1262 observation
50
The Vatican has formed alliances with UAP transparency advocates in Italy and the United States and confidentially shares centuries-old historic accounts that may be UAP-related.
“Institutions like the Vatican have formed alliances with UAP transparency advocates in Italy and the US and confidentially share historic accounts that are centuries old that may be UAP-related.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:42885-43071 testimony first hand
51
The Vatican has collected intelligence over the millennia culled from eyewitness reports and anecdotes shared in the confessional.
“Most people would be shocked by the amount of intelligence the Vatican has collected over the millennia, culled from eyewitness reports and perhaps even anecdotes shared in the confessional.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:43080-43257 hearsay second hand
52
Lue Elizondo was told that the Catholic Church routinely polled priests to speak in a general way about what troubled their parishioners.
“I’ve been told that the church routinely polled priests to speak in a general way about what troubled their parishioners.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:43318-43426 hearsay second hand
53
Jason Samosa is certain the Vatican knows something about UFOs.
“Jesse Michels: Do you think the Vatican knows anything about UFOs? Jason Samosa: Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I do.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:17:50.6-02:17:55.4 opinion first hand
54
Jason Samosa observes that the role of the Vatican in the UFO subject is hinted at by many researchers he respects, comes up and then disappears, with no one wanting to focus on it.
“the role of the Vatican is hinted at by many people that I would respect it kind of comes up and then it disappears, right? No one wants to focus too much on the Vatican.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:17:57.1-02:18:04.0 opinion first hand
55
Jason Samosa argues that an institution lasting 2,000 years such as the Vatican must resist change and revolution, and that the Vatican has done so outstandingly well, suppressing doctrinal challenges for a long time.
“what is it that makes an institution last for a long time, 2000 years?... the key thing is you have to resist change. You have to resist revolution. And the Vatican did and has done an outstanding job on that.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:18:11.7-02:18:28.0 opinion first hand
56
Jason Samosa holds that the Vatican, the monarchies and the Knights of Malta were nearly wiped off the map in the late 1700s and afterwards colluded in the Congress of Vienna.
“the Vatican conspiring with the monarchies and the Knights of Malta... All of them were like, we nearly got wiped off the map, you know, like late 1700s... So afterwards they colluded a thing called the Congress of Vienna”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:18:49.7-02:19:07.8 opinion first hand
57
Attending the Congress of Vienna beneath Klemens von Metternich were the various monarchies, the Vatican and the Knights of Malta, with the aim of systematising a joint response to revolution, so that a revolution in Southern Italy would be treated as Austro-Hungary's problem too.
“Underneath him attending were the various monarchies and the Vatican, the Knights of Malta. And the idea was like, look, we don't like each other... Because when a revolution happens in Southern Italy, that's Austro-Hungaria's problem. So I'm going to send people down to help with that. Let's systematize our response”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:19:25.0-02:19:45.2 testimony first hand
58
The Holy See (the Vatican) has historically sought to manage revolutions, and Jason Samosa characterises its institutional personality as conservative.
“So the Vatican has always tried to deal with revolutions... if the Vatican has a personality, it's conservative.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:19:51.3-02:19:55.0 opinion first hand
59
Jason Samosa considers the ultimate revolution to be the prospect that the biblical narrative and the doctrine built on top of it, which constrain interpretation of anomalous events, could be blown open.
“The reality that the biblical narrative, which constrains the information... could be blown open by the next revolution.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:19:56.8-02:20:01.8 opinion first hand
60
The Holy See (the Vatican) characterised the object seen at the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima as the sun flying around, rather than as a disc.
“So the Vatican basically says, this was the sun flying around. Okay. People said they saw a disc, but for the Vatican, that's kind of dangerous.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:21:52.8-02:22:01.4 testimony
61
Jason Samosa considers that a silver disc interpretation of Fatima would be dangerous for the Holy See (the Vatican) because it would draw believers away from devotional practice, giving the church a tendency to constrain the information.
“Are you telling me there's a silver disc in this guy? I'm probably going to stop focusing on all my Hail Marys and start reading some books, you know? So now there's this tendency to constrain the information.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:22:02.3-02:22:11.4 opinion first hand
62
The Holy See (the Vatican) confiscated a written prophecy given to the children who witnessed the Fatima Marian apparitions, and Jesse Michels believes that prophecy was more complex than the historical portrayal of a sun or Virgin Mary appearance.
“I think the Vatican confiscated one of the prophecies from the, the orphans or whatever... And it was written down and that piece of paper was literally confiscated by the Vatican.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:22:32.7-02:22:41.6 opinion first hand
63
Jesse Michels believes material from the Magenta UFO crash is held by the Holy See (the Vatican) or is at least known to it.
“And then you have the magenta crash probably being held by the Vatican as well, or at least under the knowledge.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:22:46.8-02:22:52.6 opinion first hand
64
Francis Spellman was deeply tied in with the Holy See (the Vatican).
“Francis Spellman is deeply tied in with the Vatican.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:23:23.0-02:23:25.5 testimony first hand
65
Records outside the Majestic 12 documents show Bishop John McIntyre, a senior figure in the Catholic hierarchy, present around Edwards Air Force Base in 1954.
“And then there's documentation of Bishop McIntyre, another guy pretty high up in the Vatican ecosystem. And he's hanging out around Edwards Air Force Base in 1954. This is not even MJ-12. This is real records”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:23:39.1-02:23:52.4 testimony second hand
66
Jason Samosa considers Catholic influence in the United States to be very large.
“And the general Catholic influence in America is huge.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:24:10.8-02:24:13.1 opinion first hand
67
Some of the American founding fathers were worried about Catholic influence in America because the influence of the church in Europe had been to suppress democracy and the free flow of information.
“And some of the founding fathers were very worried about Catholic influence in America, because generally the influence in Europe had been to suppress and not to allow democracy and the free flow of information.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:24:27.5-02:24:37.0 testimony first hand
68
Jason Samosa argues that placing people in key positions such as the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) directorships gives the Holy See (the Vatican) effectively a seat on the board of directors of the UFO issue.
“if you have the Vatican who may have an interest in preventing that ultimate revolution, and they now manage to get people in positions of key power, AFOSI, different general CIA directors... you've now essentially got a seat at the board of directors of the UFO issue.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:26:45.0-02:27:05.4 opinion first hand
69
The Holy See (the Vatican) is at its core a vast network encompassing the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits), the Knights of Malta, Opus Dei and the Pro Deo intelligence network, and is one of the biggest organisations on the planet.
“Because the Vatican is, at its core, a vast network. It's one of the biggest organizations, probably the biggest one on the planet, with so many different networks, whether you're looking at the Jesuits, the Knights of Malta, Opus Dei, there's the Pro Dio intelligence network”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:27:16.9-02:27:32.0 opinion first hand
70
Jason Samosa attempted at one point to compile a full list of the networks operating under the Holy See (the Vatican) and concluded it would take a long time to work through.
“I mean, at one point I tried to list them all and I thought this is going to take a long time to dig into all this stuff.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:27:33.1-02:27:36.9 testimony first hand
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Jason Samosa believes the Holy See (the Vatican) knows more than it discloses about the UFO subject and has tried to reinterpret events.
“so yeah, I do think that the Vatican knows more. I do think that they've tried to reinterpret things”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:27:39.2-02:27:42.9 opinion first hand
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Some Catholics view current events as an open, evolutionary and not strongly doctrinal process, while others see themselves as a katechon restraining the end times whose job is to prevent the final event.
“Some Catholics believe that we're going through what seems to be kind of like an evolutionary, like it's very open... And there are some who view themselves to be like a cataconic force with restraining the end times. And their job is to prevent that final thing from happening.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:27:49.6-02:28:08.1 opinion first hand