Brief
Ben Rich
The claims the writer was given for Ben Rich, in the order they were given.
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Jim Goodall befriended engineer Ben Rich, the former Director of Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works, the pseudonym for Lockheed Martin's secretive Advanced Developments Projects division where many of America's most advanced aircraft have been designed.
“He befriended engineer Ben Rich, the former Director of US aerospace company Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works (the pseudonym for Lockheed Martin's secretive Advanced Developments Projects division, where many of America's most advanced aircraft have been designed).”
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Ben Rich died in 1995 and had been notorious for dropping mischievous hints that the United States had achieved a huge technological breakthrough that was still being kept under wraps.
“Rich, who died in 1995, had been notorious for dropping mischievous hints that the United States had achieved a huge technological breakthrough that was still being kept under wraps.”
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Ben Rich's last comment to Jim Goodall before he died was: 'Jim, we have things out in the desert that are 50 years beyond what you can comprehend. Not what you think we can make in 50 years but what you can comprehend. And if you've seen movies like Star Trek and Star Wars, we've been there, done that or decided it wasn't worth the effort.'
“'To quote Ben Rich in his last comment to me just before he died,' Goodall told me from San Francisco, '"Jim, we have things out in the desert that are 50 years beyond what you can comprehend. Not what you think we can make in 50 years but what you can comprehend. And if you've seen movies like Star Trek and Star Wars, we've been there, done that or decided it wasn't worth the effort".'”
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Ben Rich gave an address in March 1993 to a small group of alumni at the University of California Los Angeles engineering school.
“Goodall also recounts an address Ben Rich gave in March 1993 to a small group of alumni at the University of California Los Angeles engineering school.”
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Engineer Jan Harzan and aerospace engineer T.L. Keller, who were among the group at the March 1993 Ben Rich UCLA address, attested that Rich admitted the US had figured out how to do interstellar travel, and, without explanation, said there was an error in the equations.
“Both engineer Jan Harzan and aerospace engineer T.L. Keller, who were among the group, attested that Rich admitted that the US had figured out how to do interstellar travel, and that, without explanation, he said, 'there was an error in the equations'.”
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Jan Harzan described that when Ben Rich ended his talk at the March 1993 UCLA address, he showed a slide portraying a black disc zipping off into space.
“Harzan described how when Ben Rich ended his talk, he showed a slide portraying a black disc zipping off into space”
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Ben Rich's final words to the packed auditorium at the March 1993 UCLA address were, 'We've discovered what it is, and we now have the technology to travel to the stars' - meaning to take extra-terrestrials home.
“Rich's final words to the packed auditorium were, '"We've discovered what it is, and we now have the technology to travel to the stars" – to take ET home is what he actually said.”
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Jan Harzan asked Ben Rich once or twice how it works, and Rich didn't really want to go there.
“I asked him once or twice "How does it work?" and he didn't really want to go there.”
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After the March 1993 UCLA address, Jan Harzan followed Ben Rich, introduced himself, and asked him how the technology worked; Rich responded by asking 'How does ESP work?' and then said 'That's how it works' when Harzan answered 'all points in space and time are connected'.
“And I said, "Hi, I'm Jan Harzan, I'm an alumni. I have a real fascination with what you're talking about, particularly the propulsion side of this". And I said, "Can you tell me how it works?" And he said, "Well, let me ask you. How does ESP work?" And I was like two steps back. I wasn't really expecting a question. I was looking for an answer. And I just quipped real quickly, "I don't know, all points in space and time are connected." And that's when he said, "That's how it works." And he turned and walked out of the room.”
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Ross Coulthart suggests believers in the extra-terrestrial explanation for UAPs may have been too credulous in taking Ben Rich literally, since the United States might want its strategic rivals Russia and China to think it has an edge with such advanced technology, so Rich may have been spreading disinformation through a prominent aerospace journalist.
“Perhaps believers in the extra-terrestrial explanation for UAPs were far too credulous in taking the former Skunk Works boss literally. America would certainly like its strategic rivals, Russia and China, to think it now has an edge with such sci-fi-like technology, so perhaps Rich was using the opportunity to sprinkle disinformation through a prominent aerospace journalist.”
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Ben Rich dropped a similarly mischievous comment to Testor Corporation stealth aircraft model-kit designer John Andrews.
“Ben Rich certainly enjoyed a joke; he dropped a similarly mischievous comment to another friend, the late Testor Corporation stealth aircraft model-kit designer John Andrews.”
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In July 1986, John Andrews wrote to Ben Rich asking him to clarify whether he believed in both man-made UFOs and extra-terrestrial UFOs.
“In July 1986, Andrews had written to Ben Rich asking him to clarify whether he believed in both man-made UFOs and extra-terrestrial UFOs.”
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Ben Rich replied to John Andrews in a July 1986 letter saying, 'Dear John, Yes, I'm a believer in both categories. I feel everything is possible. Many of our man-made UFOs are Un Funded Opportunities.'
“Rich replied in his letter, 'Dear John, Yes, I'm a believer in both categories. I feel everything is possible. Many of our man-made UFOs are Un Funded Opportunities.' (Ben Rich's emphasis.)”
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Ben Rich was president of Lockheed Martin Skunk Works in the 1990s and was responsible for modern stealth aircraft.
“Ben Rich also, who is the, you know, Skunk Works guy, you know, in the 90s, president of Skunk Works, who is responsible for, you know, the SR-71 and, or sorry, he was responsible for modern stealth aircraft.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:17:26.5-01:17:38.5 administrative
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Ben Rich wrote about an international corporate board of directors that deals with the UFO issue.
“He writes about an international corporate board of directors that deals with the UFO issue.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:17:39.9-01:17:45.1 testimony second hand
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The Maynard Consortium of Sekret Machines is described very similarly to the international corporate board Ben Rich wrote about and to the Caroline Group encountered by Thomas Townsend Brown.
“And so, and then you have Sekret Machines, the Maynard consortium, which is described very similarly to those two things.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:17:57.0-01:18:02.9 opinion first hand
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Ben Rich, late in his life, spoke about UFOs and lamented that the UFO issue was governed by an international corporate board, hoping instead that it would be brought under the umbrella of the American intelligence and aerospace world, according to Jesse Michels.
“Ben Rich was saying, well, he was saying at the end of his life, he was talking about UFOs and he was lamenting the fact that the UFO issue was governed by this international corporate board and was hoping that it would be taken under the kind of umbrella of, you know, American Intel and aerospace world more.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:50:40.2-01:50:59.6 hearsay second hand
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Ben Rich was at the tip of the spear in building reconnaissance aircraft for the Central Intelligence Agency and advanced American defence technology, in Jesse Michels's characterisation.
“you hear a guy who's at the tip of the spear when it comes to building recon planes for the CIA and, you know, very advanced American defense tech”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:51:02.0-01:51:11.3 opinion first hand
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Ben Rich said there was something international above him that governed the UFO issue, according to Jesse Michels.
“And he's saying that there's something international above him that governs the UFO issue.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:51:11.6-01:51:17.9 hearsay second hand