Brief
Betty Hill
The claims the writer was given for Betty Hill, in the order they were given.
1
Benjamin Simon was called on to interview, psychoanalyse, and hypnotise Betty Hill and Barney Hill.
“he was called on to interview, psychoanalyze, and hypnotize Betty Hill and Barney Hill”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:00:14.4-00:00:20.6 administrative first hand
2
Barney and Betty Hill's case began with a six-page report from the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) describing their sighting of an unidentified flying object.
“they began almost at the beginning with a six-page report from NICAP...this was the story of their seeing an unidentified flying object, which was investigated by a NICAP investigator who made this report”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:02:15.3-00:02:36.0 testimony first hand
3
The NICAP investigator who wrote the report on the Betty and Barney Hill sighting believed their story.
“He had intimated that they were put on his people and that he believed the story.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:02:40.6-00:02:46.4 testimony first hand
4
Barney and Betty Hill's account of the missing two hours first came to light during Barney Hill's treatment by his New Hampshire psychiatrist.
“That story had first come to light doing the treatment by his New Hampshire psychiatrist.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:02:47.7-00:02:55.1 testimony first hand
5
Barney Hill's anxiety symptoms began just after the sighting he and Betty Hill reported.
“Barney's symptoms had begun just after they had this supposed sighting.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:03:25.1-00:03:30.6 testimony first hand
6
Betty Hill responded to the sighting with a series of nightmarish dreams extending over a week or more.
“Betty had responded by a series of dreams extending over a week or more about nightmarish quality.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:03:31.9-00:03:38.4 testimony first hand
7
Benjamin Simon treated Barney and Betty Hill using hypnosis to penetrate what appeared to be an amnesic period with a vague background, covering approximately a two-hour gap on their trip home from Canada.
“to take both of the treatment and to use hypnosis to penetrate what appeared to be an amnesic period with very vague background. The only feeling they had was that coming back on a trip from Canada, they got home about two hours later than they should have, and they had no idea what had happened”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:03:47.5-00:04:13.5 testimony first hand
8
Barney and Betty Hill came to Benjamin Simon for treatment, not for a UFO investigation, and everything about the UFO story that followed was a consequence of the findings made during that treatment.
“I must insist that everyone understand that these two people came to me not for an investigation of UFOs or any of the things that led us to law...All of the rest that transpired afterwards...story and everything was a consequence of the findings in doing the treatment of the two”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:04:18.5-00:04:46.9 opinion first hand
9
Benjamin Simon's treatment of Barney and Betty Hill was substantially successful in about seven months.
“which was substantially successful in about seven months”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:04:48.0-00:04:50.9 testimony first hand
10
Benjamin Simon began the hypnosis sessions from a starting point at Montreal, Quebec, Canada, where Barney and Betty Hill had been at the top of their journey home from Niagara Falls to New Hampshire.
“I took them back to a starting point of Montreal. They had been to Niagara Falls and were coming home. And Montreal, you might say, was at the top of the journey...coming down to New Hampshire.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:05:09.2-00:05:25.5 testimony first hand
11
Benjamin Simon hypnotised Barney Hill and Betty Hill one at a time, beginning with Barney Hill, directing each to relive and act out the trip rather than simply give a written report.
“under hypnosis, which was quite deep, told him, well, I took him one at a time before, so we begin with Barney, and directed him to tell me everything that happened on that trip...Here they were to really act out or relive that trip.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:05:34.2-00:05:52.7 testimony first hand
12
Barney Hill and Betty Hill gave the same story under hypnosis, which was precisely like the story written up by the NICAP investigator, with no significant differences between the three accounts.
“Barney and Betty gave the same story. And that story was precisely like the story that had been written up by the NICAP investigators. There were no significant difference, in fact, actually no differences between the three.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:06:19.7-00:06:36.6 testimony first hand
13
Barney and Betty Hill described the sighted vehicle as often round, saucer-shaped or crescent-shaped, with men aboard.
“that preceded the actual sighting, which I've seen the well-described type of vehicles often round saucer-shaped, crescent-shape, whatever you will, of the men there.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:08:31.7-00:08:44.0 testimony first hand
14
Barney and Betty Hill initially tried to determine what the sighted object was, considering it might be a plane or a Piper Cub.
“They were trying to determine what it was. They thought of a plane, of a Piper Cub, various things like that.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:08:54.2-00:09:00.8 testimony first hand
15
Betty Hill stayed in the car for most of the sighting while Barney Hill was outside.
“Betty stayed in the car for the most part.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:09:10.1-00:09:12.4 testimony first hand
16
Betty and Barney Hill's dog, Delphi, was frightened during the sighting.
“Thier little dog, Delphi, was frightened.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:09:13.3-00:09:15.5 testimony first hand
17
Benjamin Simon observed that Betty Hill was more anxious about Barney Hill walking away from and back to the car than about what they had seen, though she herself thought it was some sort of UFO.
“It seemed to me she was much more anxious about Barney out on the road and sort of walking away and then back to the car. Then she wasn't about what they saw, though she herself thought that it was some sort of UFO.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:09:19.5-00:09:33.4 observation first hand
18
Betty Hill had much more conviction that the sighted object was a UFO than Barney Hill did.
“She had much more conviction on that than Barney.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:09:33.7-00:09:35.6 observation first hand
19
Betty Hill's story matched Barney Hill's story up to the point of the sighting, but she gave more detail and showed less terror, and continued the narrative further than Barney did.
“Betty's story and Barnie's were the same. She, being a different personality, gave a little more gandy to it and so on, didn't show as much terror, and she went much further than Barney”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:10:39.2-00:10:52.2 observation first hand
20
Betty Hill's account described the sighted UFO as landing, making beeping sounds, stalling their car's motor, and causing silver-like spots to appear on the car.
“Betty's story went on beyond that in telling the story of having been, that the UFO had landed, had made beeping sounds and had stalled their motor and various things of that sort and had caused silver-like spots to appear on their car.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:11:05.8-00:11:25.6 testimony first hand
21
Betty Hill's account described men emerging from the landed UFO with a rather oriental cast, presumed to be extraterrestrial visitors.
“men emerged from it, and I suppose everyone who has seen the movie had to see what the men were supposed to look like, a rather oriental cast and so on, a usual type of presumed extraterritorial visitors from wherever they may come.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:11:30.6-00:11:47.9 testimony first hand
22
Betty Hill's account described being taken aboard the UFO, with Barney Hill, his eyes closed, being half-dragged by two men to the vehicle while Betty walked with her eyes open, led by the apparent leader of the group.
“She went on with a fantastic story of having been taken aboard. She described Barney as, with his eyes closed, as sort of suspended between two men who were half dragging him along to the same vehicle, and she had her eyes open and did not have to be dragged, and she was taken along by what appeared to be the leader of the group”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:11:49.0-00:12:12.6 testimony first hand
23
In Betty Hill's account, she and Barney Hill were separated aboard the UFO, with Barney taken to a room for an examination presumably similar to the physical examination conducted on Betty.
“They were separated. Barney was taken into a room, presumably for the same purpose as she was, into her room, that is an examination, and on board they conducted a physical examination of her”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:12:15.3-00:12:26.9 testimony first hand
24
Benjamin Simon says he believes implicitly in the honesty of Barney and Betty Hill.
“I believe implicitly in the honesty of these people”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:12:39.6-00:12:41.8 opinion first hand
25
Benjamin Simon did not consider Barney and Betty Hill's experience to be psychotic hallucination.
“There certainly was not psychotic hallucinations.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:12:51.4-00:12:53.0 opinion first hand
26
Benjamin Simon considers Betty Hill's account of being examined and taken aboard the UFO a marked deviation from the matter-of-fact accounts given up to that point, though not psychotic hallucination.
“when she began to give all the experiences of being examined, taken aboard, reading maps, all sorts of things like that, I still didn't feel they were hallucinations in the more psychotic sense, but they certainly were a marked deviation from the very matter-of-fact things that had gone up to then.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:13:01.9-00:13:20.6 opinion first hand
27
Benjamin Simon found that up to the point of the sighting, Barney and Betty Hill's stories were exactly alike, but from that point onward Betty's account of the abduction was far more vivid and detailed while Barney simply felt himself being supported with his eyes closed, and nothing in Betty's account of the abduction appeared in Barney's account.
“up to the point of the sighting and those experiences, the two stories were exactly alike...Betty's experiences were far more vivid, fog there, and much more material there than Barney, who simply felt himself as being supportive with his eyes closed...Nothing of Betty's story, but nothing was in Barney's story.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:15:02.7-00:15:24.5 observation first hand
28
Barney and Betty Hill both gave the same clear account that the missing two hours were due to an abduction which they supposed had taken place and had been repressed on instruction from the visitors.
“Both of them gave the same...It was not due to that abduction, which they suppose had taken place in the two hours and had been repressed on instruction from these visitors.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:16:04.3-00:16:16.9 testimony first hand
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Benjamin Simon says that if the abduction story were true, two other people undergoing the same two-hour experience should give identical testimony, and everything else in the Hills' accounts was identical up to the point of the abduction, but the abduction accounts themselves were markedly different.
“if it was true, they should be identical. Everything else was identical up until then. But now the question, they two were not alike, very markedly different.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:16:31.1-00:16:42.8 opinion first hand
30
Betty Hill's account included the detail of a needle being inserted into her navel during the examination aboard the UFO.
“Betty gave by far the most elaborate story, the needle in the navel and all the things which I can't stop to describe.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:16:51.6-00:16:57.4 testimony first hand
31
Benjamin Simon determined that some detail in the equipment described by Betty Hill in the examination aboard the UFO resembled American-style or American-type instruments, which raised questions for him.
“Oh, everything you worked on was American style or American type instruments. And even in England, for example, while surgeons may do the same thing, the instruments may accomplish the same, and they're different.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:17:22.8-00:17:34.3 opinion first hand
32
Benjamin Simon determined that the difference between Barney Hill's minimal account and Betty Hill's elaborate account of the abduction was the turning point that led him to look for an explanation of the story's origin.
“the turning point was, again, as I said, that difference in their two stories. And the second realization that Betty gave a very elaborate story...and Barney gave a minimal story that everything that occurred with Barney was known to Betty and nothing of Betty was known to Barney. Then I realized that there had to be some substance, something behind that difference.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:17:45.2-00:18:11.6 opinion first hand
33
Betty Hill told Benjamin Simon that she had not told Barney Hill about her nightmarish dreams because he was working nights and was not home.
“I asked Betty if she had told her dreams to Barney. She said, no, he was working nights, so he wasn't home.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:18:30.9-00:18:36.6 testimony first hand
34
Barney Hill told Benjamin Simon that Betty Hill had not told him about her dreams.
“When I asked Barney if she told him, he said, no.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:18:37.7-00:18:40.2 testimony first hand
35
Betty Hill told Benjamin Simon she had written down her nightmarish dreams at the time they occurred, back in 1961, but could not initially find them.
“She said she had written them down at the time they occurred. That means way back in '61. But couldn't find... I asked her to bring it in. She said she couldn't find the dreams.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:19:16.7-00:19:28.1 testimony first hand
36
Benjamin Simon directed Betty Hill under hypnosis to locate her written dream record, and she subsequently found it and brought it to a session.
“I subsequently directed her under hypnosis to bring it in, and she found it and brought it in.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:19:29.6-00:19:34.5 testimony first hand
37
When asked if her abduction story matched her earlier dreams, Betty Hill initially denied it, saying that in the dreams she had gone up a ramp whereas in the reality she had gone up steps.
“She said, well, in the dreams, she had gone up a ramp. And in the reality, she'd gone up some steps.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:19:51.3-00:19:56.3 testimony first hand
38
Betty Hill's written dream record, typed out by herself at the time in 1961, matched her hypnotic abduction account exactly except that the dreams described going up both a ramp and steps.
“they were exactly alike with one difference. That in the dreams, she went up both a ramp and steps.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:20:36.8-00:20:42.4 observation first hand
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Benjamin Simon concluded that Betty Hill's fantastic abduction story derived from her nightmarish dreams, and was satisfied he did not need to accept the existence of a genuine visitation from outer space as an explanation.
“that gave me an answer at that point, that this fantastic story was her dreams, and therefore we could fit that very well with reality...I was satisfied. I didn't have to look any further for an explanation. I wouldn't have to accept under our present conditions the existence of this just amount of space”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:20:56.8-00:21:25.3 opinion first hand
40
During her account of the abduction, the leader aboard the UFO told Betty Hill he would tell her where they came from if she told him where she came from, then showed her a mask containing a map of stars.
“the leader, she got quite friendly, and he told her to answer her questioning about where they were and where they came from. And he said, well, he would tell her where they came from if she would tell him where she came from. And so he pulled down a mask, which had a bunch of stars in it, and showed it to her”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:22:43.2-00:23:08.1 testimony first hand
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Betty Hill later drew a star map for Benjamin Simon showing a number of stars and lines, one set representing trade routes between the stars and another representing expeditions.
“I asked her later to draw me that map. And what she drew was a map with a number of stars in it and a lot of lines, dotted lines and hard lines, one of which she said represented trade routes between the stars in the universe, and the other one represented trade routes...or expeditions.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:23:11.3-00:23:34.6 testimony first hand
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Betty Hill's star map shows a set of stars that she believed coincided with a pattern shown to her.
“that, and she superimposed that on her map, and it said to her that these stars all coincided.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:24:16.0-00:24:22.2 opinion second hand
43
According to Betty Hill's account, when she could not show where Earth was located, the beings said that if she did not know where she was, they would not tell her where they were or where they came from.
“But when she couldn't show him where she was, he said, well, if you don't know where you are, we won't tell you where we are or where we came from.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:24:31.5-00:24:42.2 hearsay second hand
44
Benjamin Simon considers that Betty Hill could not show her own location because she was depicting the map from Earth's viewpoint, standing on the very point she needed to indicate, rather than from a viewpoint out in space.
“In other words, she was giving this from the viewpoint of the Earth, not of someone who's out in space, and therefore she couldn't show the thing she was standing on.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:24:49.5-00:24:57.9 opinion first hand
45
Betty Hill claimed that one of the stars she placed on her star map had only recently been discovered at the time she drew it.
“Well, she claims that one of those stars that she put on there has just recently been discovered.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:25:01.4-00:25:10.6 hearsay second hand
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Benjamin Simon considers that if Betty Hill's claim about a recently-discovered star on her star map is true and the map is valid, the only explanation would be that she has precognition.
“If that is true, of course, and if her map is valid, then the only thing she can claim is that she has precognition.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:25:11.4-00:25:17.9 opinion first hand
47
Betty Hill considers her star map a milestone proof of her belief that she was kidnapped.
“except she considers that a marked... milestone in the proof of her belief, which she said she's sure of, that she was kidnapped, and so on.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:26:24.8-00:26:34.2 opinion second hand
48
Barney Hill denied that Betty Hill had told him her dreams.
“Barney denied that she had told him her dreams.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:26:48.0-00:26:50.0 hearsay second hand
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Betty Hill denied that she had told Barney Hill her dreams.
“She denied that she had told him her dreams.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:26:51.0-00:26:52.5 hearsay second hand
50
Betty Hill told her dreams about the abduction to her supervisor and her sister.
“She says, oh, yes, my supervisor, my sister. When we got to work, we'd come home and have tea together, and I told her my dreams.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:27:00.8-00:27:09.9 testimony second hand
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Betty Hill's supervisor asked her how she knew that her accounts were dreams and not true, which Benjamin Simon considers to have planted the idea that the accounts had to be true.
“And she said that it was my supervisor who said, Betty, how do you know these are dreams? How do you know it isn't true? This is planting the seed now that this has to be true.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:27:13.2-00:27:23.8 opinion second hand
52
Benjamin Simon considers that what Betty Hill called dreams were not just isolated dreams she had written down, but that the whole structure of her story had the character of a dream.
“By the way, when I say dreams, I'm not only referring to that she had dreams, that she'd written them down, but the whole structure of the story was that of a dream.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:27:37.1-00:27:44.7 opinion first hand
53
Benjamin Simon concluded that the two stimuli behind Betty and Barney Hill's sighting were an American Airlines plane, which he had seen long before knowing the Hills, and a brilliantly lighted sign outside Hartford, Connecticut, reflected through misty sky.
“the two stimuli, without giving the story, turned out to be the American Airlines plane, and the one which I saw long before I ever knew the Hill's and one subsequently unseen by me, and another is a guy that turned out to be a brilliantly lighted sign outside of Hartford, which was reflected through misty sky.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:30:03.7-00:30:24.5 opinion first hand
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Benjamin Simon considers that a scene in the film The UFO Incident showing men working in the road at the Hills' last stop could easily have been misinterpreted by the Hills as a UFO (Unidentified Flying Object).
“they cut that into the movie, it's not that clear, is that when they stopped at their last place, it looked as if some men working in the road, and if you saw the movie, that is shown there, and that could have been very much a thing misinterpreted as a UFO in the other sense of the word.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:30:31.7-00:30:54.9 opinion first hand
55
When the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) interviewed Betty and Barney Hill, NICAP accepted their story completely.
“When Betty and Barney Hill were interviewed by NICAP, do you know, did the people in NICAP buy their story, Hook, Line, and Sinker? ... Yes.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:31:01.0-00:31:12.5 testimony first hand
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Benjamin Simon considers it one of the greatest mistakes by the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) that its interviewer, a scientist, never went to look at silver spots, about the size of a silver dollar, that Betty and Barney Hill said were still visible on the back of their car.
“And NICAP made one of the greatest mistakes I have ever seen. And that is that the interviewer was a scientist. And there was a story of these silver spots about the size of a silver dollar on the back of their car. ... And for God knows what reason, he never went out to look at them.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:31:14.0-00:31:39.4 opinion first hand
57
Only Betty Hill and Barney Hill reported seeing the silver spots on the back of their car.
“Well, nobody but Betty and Barney.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:31:45.1-00:31:47.1 testimony first hand
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The silver spots on Betty and Barney Hill's car eventually washed away.
“They were washed away eventually.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:32:06.4-00:32:07.9 testimony first hand
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Benjamin Simon believed that Betty Hill and Barney Hill were both telling the truth when Betty denied telling her dreams to Barney and Barney denied being told, and he sought to explain how Betty's story reached Barney nonetheless.
“how did when Betty denied telling it to Barney and Barney denied being told, there I was again because I believe they were telling the truth. How did this Betty story get to Barney or fragments of it?”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:32:16.4-00:32:28.9 opinion first hand
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Benjamin Simon concluded that Betty Hill did not verbally tell her dream story directly to Barney Hill, but told it in his presence, which is how Barney came to know it while both could truthfully say she had not told him.
“she didn't tell it to Barney, and the literal thing was that she didn't tell it to Barney coming from him. But she did tell it in Barney's presence, and that's where he got it. And so it was both the truth and lie.”
The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:33:03.9-00:33:15.3 opinion first hand
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Betty Hill and Barney Hill disagreed on several details of the appearance of the occupants they described in their 1961 UFO abduction account.
“this would explain why contactees Betty and Barney Hill disagreed on several details of the occupants’ appearance”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:14291-14394 observation second hand
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Betty Hill described what was believed to be a star map used by UFO visitors, seen inside the flying saucer she encountered.
“a witness of obvious sincerity, Mrs. Betty Hill, had described what was believed to be the star map used by our mysterious visitors”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:21055-21178 testimony second hand
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Jacques Vallée considers Betty Hill's star map drawing to be "a map to nowhere" that proves nothing about extraterrestrial origin.
“I claim that it proves nothing of the kind. Betty’s drawing is a map to nowhere.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:21405-21477 opinion first hand
64
On 1961-09-19, Betty Hill and Barney Hill encountered a flying saucer in the White Mountains area of New Hampshire.
“It is on September 19, 1961, in the White Mountains area of New Hampshire, that Betty and Barney Hill meet their flying saucer.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:21588-21708 observation second hand
65
During the 1961 encounter, the object approached Betty Hill and Barney Hill and appeared to change from looking like a star to looking like a disk.
“At first it looks like a star. They keep driving on the lonely road, observing the object. It comes closer and looks like a disk.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:21716-21840 observation second hand
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A few miles down the road from the encounter site, Betty Hill and Barney Hill lost all awareness of their actions and next remembered driving past Ashland, about 100 kilometres to the south.
“A few miles down the road the middle-aged couple loses all awareness of their actions. They next remember driving past Ashland… sixty miles to the south!”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:22246-22393 testimony second hand
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A psychiatrist used regressive hypnosis to take Betty Hill and Barney Hill back to the instant of the 1961 incident, during which they described eerie dwarf-like men in black uniforms taking control of them and taking them inside the flying saucer for a medical examination.
“A psychiatrist took Betty and Barney back to the instant of the incident by using regressive hypnosis, and they both described a scene they could not remember consciously: the car was stopped; eerie dwarf-like men in black uniforms took control of them; and they were taken inside the flying saucer for a medical examination.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:22489-22802 testimony second hand
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Betty Hill became a UFO celebrity and a rallying point for believers in extraterrestrial visitation, appearing frequently on talk shows and television.
“Betty has become a UFO celebrity and a rallying point for the believers in extraterrestrial visitation. She is often heard on talk shows and seen on television.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:22882-23031 administrative
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Some ufologists have claimed that the home base of the space visitors described by Betty Hill has been identified as a planet circling a star in the southern constellation Reticulum.
“Several ufologists have now claimed that the home base of these visitors has been identified: they come from a planet circling a star in the southern constellation Reticulus!”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:23174-23338 hearsay second hand
70
Marjorie Fish, an Ohio schoolteacher, constructed a model of known sunlike stars and matched it to the map Betty Hill described seeing inside the flying saucer.
“An Ohio schoolteacher named Marjorie Fish has now added another chapter to this great quest by constructing a model of known sunlike stars and matching it to a map that Betty Hill saw inside the flying saucer.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:26622-26824 administrative second hand
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Ufologists including Stanton Friedman and Dave Saunders consider Marjorie Fish's star model to indicate that the saucer which abducted Betty Hill and Barney Hill came from Zeta Reticuli.
“It is this model that indicates to many authorities among the UFO believers – men like Stanton Friedman and Dave Saunders – that the saucer which abducted the Hills hailed from Zeta Reticuli.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:26832-27014 opinion second hand
72
Marjorie Fish visited Betty Hill in 1969 to get more information about the star map.
“Marjorie Fish visited Betty in 1969 to get more information about the map.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:27025-27095 administrative second hand
73
Betty Hill told Marjorie Fish that she drew the star map under post-hypnotic suggestion in 1964.
“Betty told her that she drew the map under post-hypnotic suggestion in 1964.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:27100-27171 testimony second hand
74
Betty Hill remembered the star map as a flat, thin display giving an impression of depth, and could not tell whether it was truly three-dimensional or flat like a television screen because she did not move while viewing it.
“She remembered it as a flat, thin display giving an impression of depth. Since she didn’t move while viewing it, she couldn’t tell whether or not it was truly three-dimensional or just flat like a television screen.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:27177-27385 testimony second hand
75
Betty Hill described the star map as approximately 90 centimetres by 60 centimetres, showing many stars connected by lines, of which she remembered only the prominent ones, plus a small triangle to the left.
“It was about three feet by two feet and showed many stars, of which she remembered only the prominent ones, connected by lines. She also recalled a small triangle to the left.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:27393-27563 measurement second hand
76
Marjorie Fish built models of the positions of the 46 candidate stars using beads dangling on threads to look for suspicious alignments, and exhibited a configuration of 16 stars very similar to the Hill map when seen from a particular viewing angle.
“Marjorie Fish went on to build models of the positions of these stars by using beads dangling on threads and looked for “suspicious alignments.” Finally she exhibited a configuration of 16 mars that was very similar to the Hill map when seen from a particular viewing angle.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:28011-28279 observation second hand
77
Dave Saunders, a psychologist formerly on the staff of the Condon Committee and then working for Mathematica, Inc. in New Jersey, said he could find no major point to quibble with in Marjorie Fish's interpretation of the Betty Hill map.
“David Saunders, a psychologist formerly on the staff of the Condon Committee, now working for Mathematica, Inc., in New Jersey, added: “I can find no major point to quibble with in Marjorie Fish’s interpretation of the Betty Hill map.””
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:28425-28655 opinion second hand
78
Jacques Vallée believes Betty Hill and Barney Hill really saw a UFO and that something unknown stopped their car and took control of their minds, and that they were not lying or "nuts."
“Before I present my side of the story, I want to state that I think Betty and Barney Hill really saw a UFO and that something unknown stopped their car and took control of their minds. They were not lying, and they were not “nuts.””
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:29064-29289 opinion first hand
79
Jacques Vallée believes Betty Hill's recollection of a star map is a fact and not something she invented, basing this opinion on similar sightings in which objects of high symbolic value referring to time or space have been described.
“I also think that Betty’s recollection of a star map is a fact, and not simply something she invented. I base this opinion on similar sightings in which objects have been described, often of very high symbolic value. These objects generally refer to time (like a clock) or to space (like a map or a compass).”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:29296-29595 opinion first hand
80
Jacques Vallée notes that Betty Hill's star map is not drawn to scale, and that the distance between the two stars of Zeta Reticuli, in particular, is exaggerated to the point where the map would be useless for navigation.
“An important, even a crucial, fact seems to have escaped the attention of those who have examined Betty Hill’s drawing: her map is not drawn to scale! ... The distance between the two stars of Zeta Reticuli, in particular, is exaggerated to the point where the map would be useless for navigation.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:33860-34226 opinion first hand
81
Jacques Vallée believes that if Betty Hill's star map is real, it must have been placed there for her to see, not for a pilot to use.
“If the map is real, it must have been placed there for Betty Hill to see, not for the pilot to use!”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:34390-34485 opinion first hand
82
Jacques Vallée does not believe any contactees, including Betty Hill and Barney Hill, have been physically on board an actual saucer, but rather took a nonphysical trip controlled by a system acting on human consciousness, which the Soviets term "psychotronic."
“I do not believe that any of the contactees – not even Betty and Barney Hill – have been physically on board an actual “saucer.” It is more likely that they have taken a nonphysical “trip,” controlled and guided by a system of which we have no clear idea as yet, a system that acts on human consciousness (the Soviets use the term “psychotronic” to designate such devices)”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:35281-35645 opinion first hand
83
Betty Hill in Portsmouth, Charlie Hickson in Pascagoula, and Travis Walton in Arizona each took lie detector tests related to their UFO abduction accounts and passed them.
“They take lie detector tests and pass them: Betty Hill in Portsmouth, Charlie Hickson in Pascagoula, Travis Walton in Arizona.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:36692-36810 testimony
84
Al Lawson described the results of the imaginary abductees hypnosis study as providing "a coherent, intriguing UFO abduction narrative" that was surprisingly similar to classic UFO abduction cases such as those of Betty Hill and Charlie Hickson.
“Not only did these “imaginary abductees” provide what Dr. Lawson calls “a coherent, intriguing UFO abduction narrative,” but their stories were surprisingly similar to the most classic UFO abduction cases, like those of Betty Hill or Charlie Hickson.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:38657-38899 opinion second hand
85
Betty Hill claimed to have seen a star map aboard the UFO that abducted her.
“And what about the evidence of the “star map” seen by contactee Betty Hill aboard the UFO which abducted her?”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:5090-5195 testimony second hand
86
Most researchers in the alien abduction field recognise the Betty and Barney Hill case of 1961 and the Antonio Villas-Boas case of 1957 as the two watershed first abduction reports.
“Most researchers in this field recognize that there are actually two "first" abduction reports that have had a strong impact on our perceptions of the phenomenon...These are the watershed case of Betty and Barney Hill from 1961 and the controversial sexual "seduction" encounter of Antonio Villas-Boas from 1957.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:11203-11512 observation
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During the night of 1961-09-19, Betty and Barney Hill, an interracial couple from Portsmouth, New Hampshire, experienced a strange interrupted journey on the way home from a holiday, during which they claimed a prolonged UFO sighting and saw figures at the windows around the UFO.
“During the night of September 19, 1961, Betty and Barney Hill, a respected Portsmouth, New Hampshire, interracial couple, experienced a strange "interrupted journey" on the way home from a holiday. They claimed to have had a prolonged UFO sighting, during which they saw figures at the windows around the UFO.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:11519-11824 testimony second hand
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After their 1961 interrupted journey, Betty and Barney Hill became aware of a period of missing time and arrived home a couple of hours later than anticipated.
“After the experience, they became aware of a period of missing time during which they were unable to remember what had happened. They arrived home a couple of hours later than anticipated.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:11830-12006 testimony second hand
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Betty and Barney Hill began experiencing anxiety dreams and stress-related problems that became so severe they sought the help of Boston psychiatrist Dr. Benjamin Simon in January 1964.
“The couple began experiencing problems—anxiety dreams for Betty and stress-related problems for Barney—that became so severe that they sought the help of a Boston psychiatrist, Dr. Benjamin Simon, in January 1964.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:12020-12228 observation
90
Under hypnosis, Betty and Barney Hill's account described abduction and medical examination by aliens aboard a flying saucer.
“What emerged was a complex account of abduction and medical examination by aliens on board a flying saucer.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:12421-12521 testimony second hand
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Betty Hill said that during the experience the aliens inserted a needle in her navel as a pregnancy test.
“Betty Hill said that during the experience the aliens inserted a needle in her navel—a "pregnancy test."”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:12529-12627 testimony second hand
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Dr. Benjamin Simon never believed the Hills' UFO abduction was real, regarding their story as a fantasy to be explored to relieve their anxiety.
“Dr. Simon never believed that the Hills' UFO abduction was real. For him, their story was a fantasy to be explored in an effort to relieve the associated anxiety.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:12635-12789 opinion second hand
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Betty Hill wrote down the details of her anxiety-related nightmares during November 1961, which were the first documented accounts of the possible abduction dimensions of the Hills' interrupted journey.
“Betty Hill's "anxiety dreams" were the first documented accounts of the possible abduction dimensions of the Hills' "interrupted journey." She wrote down the details of her nightmares during November 1961.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:13753-13953 testimony second hand
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Betty Hill's 1961 nightmare accounts described the beings' complexions as of a gray tone like gray paint with a black base, bluish-tinted lips, and hair and eyes very dark, possibly black.
“"Their complexions were of a gray tone; like a gray paint with a black base; their lips were of a bluish tint. Hair and eyes were very dark, possibly black."”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:14140-14289 testimony second hand
95
The beings described in Betty Hill's 1961 nightmares also had prominent noses, whereas under hypnosis in 1964 the aliens described did not have hair or big noses.
“They also had prominent noses. Under hypnosis the aliens described did not have hair or big noses. So from the beginning there was reference to hair, albeit via traumatic dreams that preceded the hypnotic recollections that took place in 1964.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:14301-14539 observation first hand
96
Late in 2003, chemist Phyllis Budinger circulated her analysis of the large pink stain found on the dress Betty Hill wore during her 1961 abduction.
“Late in 2003 chemist Phyllis Budinger circulated her analysis of the large pink stain found on the dress Betty Hill wore during her famous abduction of 1961.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:4457-4609 administrative
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Betty Hill's dress had been hanging in the closet of her New Hampshire home relatively undisturbed for decades before analysis.
“The dress had been hanging in the closet of her New Hampshire home relatively undisturbed all those years.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:4616-4716 observation
98
The Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG) team led by Bill Chalker received dress samples and control biological samples pertinent to Betty and Barney Hill.
“My APEG team received some dress samples and control biological samples pertinent to Betty and Barney Hill.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:5014-5116 administrative first hand
99
A specialised ribosomal Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) DNA profiling was undertaken on Betty Hill's dress samples to extract non-human DNA along with standard assessments.
“A specialized (ribosomal) PCR DNA profiling was undertaken to extract non-human DNA along with standard assessments.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:5123-5227 measurement first hand
100
DNA found on Betty Hill's dress was connected to Betty and Barney Hill, and at least some of the stained areas were found to be due to spider's blood.
“Despite the passage of decades, DNA found on the dress was connected to Betty and Barney Hill, and rather surprisingly, at least some of the stained areas were found to be due to spider’s blood.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:5354-5542 measurement first hand
101
Betty Hill died before the dress DNA analysis work was completed in December 2004.
“Sadly, Betty passed away before this work was completed in December of 2004.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:5666-5737 administrative
102
On 1967-12-03, Herb Schirmer, a patrolman from Ashland, Nebraska, had an experience regarded as comparable to the abduction accounts of Betty Hill, Barney Hill, and the Pascagoula fishermen.
“On December 3, 1967, a patrolman named Herb Schirmer, of Ashland, Nebraska, had an experience that deserves to be placed in the context of the stories of the abduction of Betty and Barney Hill and of the Pascagoula fishermen.”
THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:33308-33523 administrative first hand
103
In the 1961 Barney Hill UFO encounter, the observation of a disk with windows fell into strangeness category 3, and this is what Barney Hill and Betty Hill reported to the United States Air Force.
“The Betty and Barney Hill "abduction" case of 1961 is a fascinating one in light of this classification because one part of the incident (the observation of a disk with windows) is clearly of category 3 and this is indeed what they reported to the Air Force.”
THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch13:10053-10305 testimony second hand
104
Barney Hill and Betty Hill did not report the creatures or the time loss from their 1961 UFO encounter until they discussed the case with a local UFO amateur they trusted.
“They did not say anything about the creatures (category 5) or the time loss (category 7), which only came to light after they discussed the case with someone they trusted, a local UFO amateur.”
THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch13:10312-10496 testimony
105
The full story of Barney Hill and Betty Hill's 1961 abduction only emerged under hypnosis.
“Finally, the whole story of their "abduction" only came out under hypnosis.”
THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch13:10505-10571 testimony
106
Jacques Vallee has spent hours with Betty Hill and Barney Hill and discussed the case of their abduction with Dr. Simon.
“I have spent hours with Betty and Barney Hill and have had a chance to discuss the case of their abduction with Dr. Simon.”
THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch17:17101-17217 testimony first hand
107
The 1961 Betty and Barney Hill UFO abduction incident may have been the first time hypnosis was used on people who claimed to have been abducted by aliens.
“It may also have been the first time hypnosis was used on people who claimed to have been abducted by aliens.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:41343-41445 observation
108
Betty Hill and Barney Hill were an interracial couple who were both active in the civil rights movement.
“Betty Hill and Barney Hill, an interracial couple, were both active in the civil rights movement.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:41972-42060 administrative
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Betty Hill and Barney Hill lived in New Hampshire.
“They lived in New Hampshire.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:42070-42088 administrative
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On 1961-09-19, Betty Hill and Barney Hill were driving on a rural road in New Hampshire when they spotted a light that resembled a falling star but moved differently.
“On September 19, 1961, they were driving on a rural road in that state, when they spotted a light that resembled a falling star but moved differently.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:42099-42237 testimony second hand
111
Betty Hill and Barney Hill stopped and used binoculars to try to identify the light, then got back into their car and continued their journey.
“They stopped and used binoculars to try to identify it, but then got back into their car and continued their journey.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:42250-42359 testimony second hand
112
During the 1961 Betty and Barney Hill UFO abduction incident, the light continued to be visible and appeared to hover in the sky above their car.
“The star, however, continued to be visible and in fact seemed to hover in the sky above them.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:42368-42456 testimony second hand
113
During the 1961 Betty and Barney Hill UFO abduction incident, the light came toward their vehicle, almost filling the windshield with its light.
“At one point, it came toward their vehicle, almost filling the windshield with its light.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:42462-42545 testimony second hand
114
Frightened by the light, Betty Hill and Barney Hill stopped the car, and Barney Hill got out with a pistol he was carrying.
“Frightened, they stopped the car, and Barney got out with a pistol he was carrying.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:42552-42626 testimony second hand
115
Two days after the sighting, Betty Hill called the nearby Pease Air Force Base.
“Two days later, Betty called the nearby Pease Air Force Base.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:42681-42737 testimony second hand
116
Major Paul W. Henderson returned Betty Hill's call to Pease Air Force Base a day after she made it.
“It was another day before Major Paul W. Henderson returned the call.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:42743-42806 administrative
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Betty Hill described the details of what she and Barney Hill had seen to Paul W. Henderson but did not mention the presence of beings or extraterrestrials.
“Betty described the details of what they had seen, but she did not mention the presence of beings or extraterrestrials.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:42812-42913 testimony second hand
118
Betty Hill sought out a qualified hypnotist following the 1961 UFO abduction incident.
“Betty sought out a qualified hypnotist.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:43719-43748 testimony second hand
119
While hypnotised, Betty Hill and Barney Hill related that they believed alien beings had abducted them, taken them aboard a UFO craft, and then examined them.
“Betty and Barney related, while hypnotized, that they believed that alien beings had abducted them, taken them aboard a UFO craft, and then examined them.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:43843-43992 testimony second hand
120
Jacques Vallee refuses to affirm or deny that Betty Hill and Barney Hill received messages from extraterrestrials from the Zeta Reticuli star system, which is what they claimed, but does not dismiss their experiences as not having been real.
“He refuses to believe or disbelieve, for example, that Betty and Barney Hill received messages from extraterrestrials from the star system of Zeta Reticuli, which is what they claimed. He does not, however, dismiss the experiences as not having been real.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch5:28101-28351 opinion first hand
121
Betty Hill and Barney Hill claimed to have received messages from extraterrestrials from the Zeta Reticuli star system.
“that Betty and Barney Hill received messages from extraterrestrials from the star system of Zeta Reticuli, which is what they claimed”
American Cosmic 2019 ch5:28151-28277 testimony second hand
122
Betty Hill and Barney Hill reported empirical evidence of a starlike object sighting to the United States Air Force, but when describing their experience to people they felt would not scoff, such as Donald Keyhoe and later their therapist, they divulged the story of an encounter with nonhuman beings.
“They reported empirical evidence to the Air Force, the sighting of the starlike object. But when describing their experience to people they felt would not be inclined to scoff, like Donald Keyhoe and later their therapist (who, ironically, did not believe in UFOs), they divulged the story of the encounter with nonhuman beings.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch5:7068-7389 testimony second hand
123
The therapist who treated Betty Hill and Barney Hill did not believe in UFOs.
“their therapist (who, ironically, did not believe in UFOs)”
American Cosmic 2019 ch5:7274-7327 administrative
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Whitley Strieber had no conscious memory of reading about the Betty Hill and Barney Hill case in Look Magazine before his own hypnosis.
“I had, as I have said, no conscious memory of reading about the Betty and Barney Hill case in Look”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:22297-22391 observation first hand
125
Marjorie Fish, an amateur astronomer, took Betty Hill's star map seen during her abduction and correlated it to Zeta Reticuli.
“Marjorie Fish, this amateur astronomer, took Betty Hill's star map that she saw during her abduction and was able to correlate it to Zeta Reticuli.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 01:03:32.6-01:03:53.2 hearsay
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The Greys reported by Betty and Barney Hill differed from those Erik Nanstiel describes, having different slit-like eyes.
“Even among the grays, like even if you look at Eddie and Barney Hill, who you mentioned earlier, it's different. They have different slit-like eyes and there's different...”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:02:43.3-02:02:52.9 opinion