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    Since getting to know Peter Khoury from 1993, Bill Chalker found him to be a friendly and reliable person.

    “I should note that since getting to know Peter Khoury since 1993, I have found him to be a friendly and reliable person.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:10052-10165 opinion first hand

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    Peter Khoury has at times become passionate and volatile about his cause and does not tolerate those he feels dishonour the integrity of people who genuinely feel they have experienced an alien abduction.

    “He has at times become passionate and volatile about his cause and does not tolerate those he feels dishonor the integrity of people who genuinely feel they have experienced an alien abduction.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:10174-10357 opinion first hand

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    Peter Khoury remains open to whatever his experiences may turn out to be, but insists on serious and ethical research and support of abductees.

    “He remains open to whatever these experiences may turn out to be, but insists on the serious and ethical research and support of abductees.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:10368-10497 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker needed to establish with some degree of certainty that Peter Khoury's alien hair sample was procured in the way Peter Khoury described during his July 1992 experience, because of the significance of the hair evidence.

    “Because of the significance of the hair evidence, I needed to establish with some degree of certainty that the hair was indeed procured in the way Peter described during his July 1992 experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:10509-10693 observation first hand

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    Peter Khoury revealed the story of the two women to Bill Chalker in 1996 and said he had mentioned the experience in his diaries, but could not find them for several years due to renovations and building at his house, finally finding them in April 1999.

    “After he revealed the story of the women to me in 1996, he said that he had made mention of the experience in his diaries, but because of renovations and building at his house at the time, he was unable to find them for several years. He finally found them in April 1999.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:10706-10972 testimony second hand

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    Other than Vivian Khoury, Jamie Leonarder is the person most familiar with Peter Khoury's 1992 experience.

    “Other than Vivian, Jamie Leonarder is the person most familiar with Peter's 1992 experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:12183-12264 observation first hand

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    Bill Chalker was surprised how much Jamie Leonarder supported the validity of Peter Khoury's July 1992 episode, despite a rift eventually developing between them.

    “Though a rift would eventually develop between them, I was surprised how much Jamie supported the validity of Peter's July 1992 episode.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:12671-12799 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker talked to a number of the professionals in Peter Khoury's UFO Experience Support Association (UFOESA) group, and most had some recollection of Peter Khoury telling them about his July 1992 experience.

    “I talked to a number of these group professionals, and most had some recollection of Peter's telling them about the experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:13473-13589 testimony first hand

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    Peter Khoury became UFO Research New South Wales's de facto "abduction coordinator" and began tentatively developing an abductee support subgroup within the organisation.

    “Driven by the need to understand his own experiences, Peter found himself the group's de facto "abduction coordinator" and tentatively developing their abductee support subgroup.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:1355-1524 administrative first hand

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    Bill Chalker concluded he could be pretty certain about the July 1992 date of Peter Khoury's experience, and that Peter Khoury's story about the strange women and the recovery of the strange hair sample had indeed occurred at that time.

    “Given these various points of confirmation, both direct and indirect, I could be pretty certain about the July 1992 date of Peter's experience, and that his story about the strange women and the recovery of the strange hair sample had indeed occurred at that time.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:13602-13861 opinion first hand

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    Peter Khoury contemplated hypnosis but found the costs daunting, and hypnotherapists did not want to see him once he mentioned what the sessions would be about.

    “He even contemplated hypnosis, but the costs were daunting; besides, as soon as he mentioned what it was about, the hypnotherapists didn't want to see him.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:260-411 observation first hand

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    In November 1991, Peter Khoury heard about UFO Research New South Wales, a local UFO group about to have its inaugural meeting, and joined it seeking to understand his 1988 experience.

    “Then in November 1991, he heard about a local UFO group called UFO Research New South Wales, which was about to have its inaugural meeting. Peter was seeking to understand what had happened to him in 1988 and joined the group.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:417-637 administrative first hand

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    After the object popped from Peter Khoury's puncture mark, the transient lump on his head disappeared, and a subsequent CAT scan for his job site head injury revealed nothing in the area of the puncture mark.

    “In the wake of that episode the transient lump on his head was now gone, and the CAT scan that followed for the job site assault revealed nothing in the area of the puncture mark.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:4231-4405 observation second hand

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    Dealing with his 1988 abduction experience was hard on Peter Khoury, and the situation worsened after his July 1992 experience.

    “Dealing with his abduction experience of 1988 was hard enough on Peter Khoury; the situation merely got worse and more difficult after his July 1992 experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:4443-4592 observation second hand

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    Budd Hopkins's public lecture in Sydney in October 1992 helped legitimise and popularise the reality of abductions and shifted UFO Research New South Wales's previously negative attitude toward the subject.

    “It took the visit of American alien abduction researcher Budd Hopkins in October 1992 to shake the conservatism of the UFO group. Hopkins's public lecture and its impact helped legitimize or popularize the reality of abductions and the UFO group's negative attitude toward the subject began to change.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:4927-5221 observation first hand

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    After Budd Hopkins's October 1992 lecture, UFO Research New South Wales wanted to take over the abduction support group that had been nurtured principally by Peter Khoury.

    “The group now wanted to take over the abduction support group that had been nurtured principally by Peter Khoury.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:5229-5335 observation first hand

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    At a public meeting of UFO Research New South Wales on December 6, 1992, which Bill Chalker attended, Peter Khoury and Jamie Leonarder formally introduced the support group concept.

    “At a public meeting of the UFO group on December 6, 1992, which I attended, Peter Khoury and his primary associate Jamie Leonarder formally introduced the support group concept.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:5344-5513 observation first hand

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    Jamie Leonarder joined UFO Research New South Wales early in 1992.

    “Leonarder had joined the group early in 1992.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:5523-5563 administrative first hand

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    Jamie Leonarder was a welfare worker with a Sydney welfare agency that provided support for down-and-out street people, including those with drug and other dependency problems and destitute individuals.

    “He was a welfare worker with a Sydney welfare agency that provided support for down and out street people. These included those with drug and other dependency problems, destitute individuals, and other people on the fringe of society.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:5569-5795 administrative first hand

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    Peter Khoury's abduction support group had its first meeting on January 31, 1993.

    “The support group had its first meeting on January 31, 1993.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:6106-6161 administrative first hand

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    Peter Khoury mentioned the blond woman and the hair sample at a support group meeting on February 28, 1993, but did not show the hair sample at that meeting because of earlier lack of positive feedback.

    “Peter mentioned the blond woman and the hair sample at a subsequent support group meeting, on February 28, 1993, but because of the earlier lack of positive feedback, he did not show the hair sample at the meeting.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:6167-6373 administrative second hand

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    Peter Khoury resigned from UFO Research New South Wales at the end of March 1993.

    “Peter Khoury resigned from UFOR (NSW) at the end of March 1993.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:7003-7061 administrative first hand

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    Peter Khoury and Jamie Leonarder, along with many others from the support group, formed the UFO Experience Support Association (UFOESA), which was formalised on April 14, 1993.

    “Many in the support group left with him, including Leonarder, and together they formed their own group, the UFO Experience Support Association (UFOESA), which was formalized on April 14, 1993.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:7067-7254 administrative first hand

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    The UFO Experience Support Association (UFOESA) was based in Sydney and became one of the most notable manifestations of the support group concept in Australia.

    “UFOESA, based in Sydney, went on to become one of the most notable manifestations of the support group concept in Australia.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:7261-7375 observation first hand

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    Peter Khoury found it difficult to get assistance to understand his bizarre experiences, beginning with his 1988 encounter.

    “Peter Khoury found that getting assistance to understand his bizarre experiences, beginning with the 1988 episode, was difficult at best.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:82-214 observation first hand

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    The professionals in Peter Khoury's UFO Experience Support Association (UFOESA) group questioned the more bizarre abduction claims and used them as criteria for accepting or rejecting the validity of an experience.

    “Despite the best of intentions, however, the professionals, with their caution mediated by science and commonsense, questioned the more bizarre claims and used them as criteria for accepting or rejecting the validity of an experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:8519-8742 observation second hand

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    Early in 1993, Peter Khoury used his own experience to inform the professionals within his UFO Experience Support Association (UFOESA) group about the lesson that strangeness of a claim should not disqualify credibility, but he was less than convinced the professionals had embraced his suggestion.

    “Early in 1993, he used his own experience to inform the professionals within the group of this lesson, but he was less than convinced that his group of professionals had embraced his suggestion.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:9040-9223 observation second hand

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    Peter Khoury's July 1992 experience became a suppressed but important "sleeper" case biding its time after he learned to be more circumspect about sharing the more bizarre episodes of his alien abduction experience.

    “From that moment on he learned to be more circumspect about sharing the more bizarre episodes of his unfolding alien abduction experience. If UFOESA's own professionals could not come to terms with the stranger dimensions of the abduction experience, Peter realized there would be little hope for help from outsiders. Peter's 1992 experience became a suppressed but important "sleeper" case biding its time.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:9458-9860 observation first hand

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    Peter Khoury initially chose not to share details of his 1992 experience with Bill Chalker.

    “Given Peter's experiences with his own group, it hardly seems surprising that he initially chose not to share details of his startling 1992 experience with me.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:9892-10048 observation first hand

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    Bill Chalker considers compelling evidence for the physical reality of UFOs to come from physical traces in UFO landing events.

    “Compelling evidence for the physical reality of UFOs comes from physical traces in UFO landing events, so-called EM (electromagnetic) effects in close encounter incidents, particularly car stalling type cases, radar sightings, physical effects on witnesses, and to a lesser extent photographic evidence.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:1103-1397 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker considers electromagnetic (EM) effects in close encounter incidents, particularly cases involving car stalling, to be compelling evidence for the physical reality of UFOs.

    “so-called EM (electromagnetic) effects in close encounter incidents, particularly car stalling type cases”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:1206-1306 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker considers radar sightings and physical effects on witnesses to be compelling evidence for the physical reality of UFOs.

    “radar sightings, physical effects on witnesses, and to a lesser extent photographic evidence”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:1313-1397 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker considers photographic evidence to be, to a lesser extent, compelling evidence for the physical reality of UFOs.

    “and to a lesser extent photographic evidence”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:1361-1397 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker considers evidence supporting the reality of alien abduction events to have been lacking or relatively unconvincing, despite abduction events coming to dominate the UFO field.

    “But similar evidence to support the reality of abduction events has been lacking or is relatively unconvincing. And yet such events have come to dominate the entire UFO scene.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:1410-1579 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker considers the 1993 Kelly Cahill case one of the few compelling exceptions to the ambiguity and uncertainty pervading the alien abduction experience.

    “One of the few compelling exceptions to the ambiguity and uncertainty that pervade the alien abduction experience is the 1993 Kelly Cahill case.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:1689-1828 opinion first hand

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    The 1993 Kelly Cahill case represented a turning point for Bill Chalker, who found the physical evidence made it difficult to dismiss the case.

    “This event represented a turning point for me. The physical evidence makes it difficult to dismiss this case.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:2039-2143 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker began researching Peter Khoury's alleged alien experiences in the same year that he learned of the 1993 Kelly Cahill case.

    “another very striking case came to my notice the same year I began researching Peter’s alien experiences”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:226-319 administrative first hand

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    The 1993 Kelly Cahill case, along with Peter Khoury's 1992 experience, helped arrest Bill Chalker's drift away from accepting the possible reality of alien abduction stories.

    “Ultimately, this episode was not without its frustrations, but along with Peter Khoury’s 1992 experience, it would help arrest my drift away from accepting the possible reality of alien abduction stories.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:2335-2533 opinion first hand

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    Kelly Cahill first contacted Bill Chalker on 1993-10-04 seeking assistance in understanding an encounter she had experienced near Narre Warren North, Victoria.

    “Kelly Cahill first contacted me back on October 4, 1993, seeking assistance in understanding a bizarre experience she had near the outer Melbourne suburban housing development of Narre Warren North, in the foothills of the Dandenongs, Victoria, between Belgrave and Fountain Gate, during the early hours of August 8, 1993.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:2742-3059 administrative first hand

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    None of Phenomena Research Australia's findings on the Kelly Cahill case have been comprehensively reported, despite a passage of about ten years.

    “Unfortunately, other than a few tantalizing fragments they have doled out, none of these findings have been comprehensively reported by Phenomena Research Australia, despite a passage of what is now ten years.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:32106-32309 opinion first hand

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    Kelly Cahill has not been given access to the full data that Phenomena Research Australia report they hold on her case.

    “Sadly, even the key witness, Kelly Cahill, who took the brave step of coming forward, has not been made privy to the full data that PRA report they have on the incident.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:32317-32477 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker was unable to gain full access to Phenomena Research Australia's data on the Kelly Cahill case, particularly the physical data, and came to regret his decision to involve PRA in the investigation.

    “Given my own inability to gain full access to their data on the case, particularly to what seemed provocative physical data, I grew to regret my decision to involve PRA in the first place.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:32488-32670 testimony first hand

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    Bill Chalker considers that the 1993 Kelly Cahill case, a very promising case, did not realise its full potential as a consequence of not gaining full access to Phenomena Research Australia's data.

    “As a consequence, a very promising case has not realized its full potential.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:32677-32743 opinion first hand

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    Further developments independent of Phenomena Research Australia's own investigations, not yet fully elaborated, suggest the focus of the 1993 Narre Warren North encounter had not been Kelly Cahill or the second or third parties on the road that night.

    “further developments, independent of PRA's own investigations and still not fully elaborated, suggest that perhaps the focus of this extraordinary encounter had not been Kelly or the second (or indeed the third) party on the road that night.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:32759-32994 opinion first hand

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    An unrelated person, whose whole family had reportedly been subjected to an ongoing alien intrusion, apparently also experienced an abduction connected to the 1993 Narre Warren North incident.

    “Someone else totally unrelated to the parties on the road had apparently also experienced an abduction. In fact, this person's whole family had been subjected to an ongoing alien intrusion.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:33002-33181 hearsay second hand

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    Bill Chalker considers the parties in the cars on the road at Narre Warren North to have been innocent bystanders caught in the wrong place at the wrong time within a larger alien tableau.

    “The parties in the cars on the road were, it seems, in the wrong place at the wrong time, innocent bystanders in a much larger alien tableau.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:33193-33326 opinion first hand

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    The details of Kelly Cahill's account given in her March 21, 1994 interview with Robb Tilley were consistent with the account she initially and later related to Bill Chalker, with what she told John Auchettl of Phenomena Research Australia (PRA), and with her own written account of the experience.

    “as the details of the incident that emerged during that interview are consistent with those she initially and later related to me, with what she told John Auchettl of PRA, and with her own written account of the experience”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:3352-3564 observation first hand

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    Bill Chalker considers the 1993 Kelly Cahill case possibly the first instance where independent witnesses were instrumental in providing compelling physical and other evidence for the reality of UFO abductions.

    “In this case, possibly the first time, independent witnesses were instrumental in providing compelling physical and other evidence for the reality of UFO abductions.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:33527-33681 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker has worked with other scientists on the UFO phenomenon within an informal, invisible college network of scientists who view the phenomenon as worthy of serious attention.

    “Over the years I have been fortunate to work with other scientists on this controversial problem in a sort of "invisible college," an informal network of scientists who view the UFO phenomenon as worthy of serious attention.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:33853-34067 testimony first hand

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    Bill Chalker describes his invisible college's work as done in the spirit of the movement that preceded the formation of the English Royal Society in the early 1660s, when interest in natural philosophy could be dangerous.

    “Our work has been done in the spirit of the movement that preceded the formation of the English Royal Society in the early 1660s, when it could be dangerous to be interested in "natural philosophy," or, as we call it today, science.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:34079-34303 opinion first hand

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    Many of Bill Chalker's colleagues in the invisible college prefer to contribute anonymously because work on the UFO problem is regarded as "forbidden science."

    “Many of my colleagues in this invisible college prefer to contribute anonymously because work on "the UFO problem" is seen as "forbidden science."”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:34313-34450 testimony first hand

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    Bill Chalker considers it frustrating that scientists tend to ignore compelling evidence about UFOs rather than merely being skeptical about them.

    “What's most frustrating about the situation is not that many scientists are skeptical about UFOs, but that they ignore the compelling evidence that's readily available.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:34460-34618 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker, as a scientist, has observed that high-quality science has rarely been brought to bear on the UFO problem, with a common knee-jerk rejection of the possibility that there might be something to UFOs.

    “As a scientist myself, I have seen time and time again how rarely high-quality science has been brought to bear on the UFO problem. Too often there is a knee-jerk rejection of even the possibility that there might be something to UFOs.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:34630-34860 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker considers that the true enquiring spirit of science has not touched the UFO issue, and that popular culture has rushed to fill the void left by science's inattention.

    “The true enquiring spirit of science has not touched the UFO issue. Consequently, popular culture has rushed to Fill the void left by the inattention of science.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:34867-35020 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker has worked with a group of invisible college specialists to bring hard science to the controversial field of alien abductions, and the events surrounding Peter Khoury provided an extraordinary opportunity to assess the reality of abduction experiences.

    “I have been working with this group of invisible college specialists to bring hard science to the controversial field of alien abductions. The bizarre events that focused on Peter Khoury provided an extraordinary opportunity to assess the reality of abduction experiences.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:35032-35292 testimony first hand

  56. 56

    The difficulties and frustrations Bill Chalker experienced gaining full disclosure of the research conducted in the Kelly Cahill case made him more determined to extract the full potential of the physical evidence in Peter Khoury's abduction encounter.

    “The difficulties and frustrations in gaining full disclosure to the research conducted in Kelly Cahill's case made me more determined than ever to try to extract the full potential of the physical evidence in Peter Khoury's extraordinary abduction encounter.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:35384-35632 testimony first hand

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    In his research into Australian abduction events from the 1970s until the early 1990s, Bill Chalker generally held the view that most abduction cases probably revealed more about the human condition than about UFOs themselves.

    “In my own research into Australian abduction events, from my earliest work in the seventies until the early nineties, I basically came to hold the position that most abduction cases probably told us more about the human condition than they did about UFOs themselves.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:513-768 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker found the majority of alien abduction cases conspicuously lacking compelling physical evidence.

    “I found the majority of abduction cases conspicuously devoid of compelling physical evidence.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:781-865 opinion first hand

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    The extraordinary potential of Peter Khoury's 1992 experience did not emerge until DNA analysis took place on the hair sample found after the encounter.

    “While the extraordinary potential of Peter Khoury’s 1992 experience would not emerge until the DNA analysis took place on the found hair sample, another very striking case came to my notice the same year I began researching Peter’s alien experiences.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:81-319 observation first hand

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    Bill Chalker considers extraordinary claims to require extraordinary evidence, and that such evidence often requires extraordinary investigation and research to obtain.

    “My science background always made me aware of the fundamental position that extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. However, such evidence also often requires extraordinary investigation and research to obtain it.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:875-1098 opinion first hand

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    Two distinct phases of DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) analyses were undertaken on the alien hair sample recovered from Peter Khoury's 1992 experience, together providing a striking array of genetic findings.

    “Together, the two distinct phases of DNA analyses undertaken on the "alien hair" sample recovered from Peter Khoury's bizarre 1992 experience provide a very striking array of genetic findings.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:20877-21060 administrative first hand

  62. 62

    Bill Chalker considers the DNA findings from Peter Khoury's alien hair sample to be evidence for advanced DNA techniques and DNA anomalies that mainstream biotechnology is only now discovering or starting to make sense of.

    “They appear to be evidence for advanced DNA techniques and DNA anomalies of the sort we are only now discovering, or starting to make sense of, in mainstream biotechnology.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:21071-21229 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker would be more comfortable if dozens of samples like the one from Peter Khoury's 1992 experience existed and their testing revealed either consistency or contradiction of results.

    “I certainly would be more comfortable if dozens of samples like that from Peter Khoury's strange 1992 experience existed and that their testing revealed either some consistency or contradiction of results.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:21245-21442 opinion first hand

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    Bill Chalker states that only one anomalous hair sample from Peter Khoury's case exists, which has provided a strange DNA profile.

    “But for now we have only this anomalous sample, which has provided us with a strange DNA profile.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:21523-21612 administrative first hand

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    Bill Chalker considers the DNA findings on Peter Khoury's alien hair sample to represent potent evidence for a forensic and scientific approach to alien abduction cases, though subject to continuing review and debate.

    “While our findings will continue to be subjected to review and debate, they still represent potent evidence for a forensic and scientific approach to alien abduction cases that will help illuminate the possible strange reality that may be at the heart of such claims.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:21622-21882 opinion first hand

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    Robert Shapiro was not aware of Peter Khoury's "alien hair" sample.

    “Shapiro was obviously not aware of Peter Khoury’s “alien hair” sample”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:2646-2709 administrative second hand

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    Bill Chalker first heard about Peter Khoury's hair sample in 1996, but initially focused on more conventional investigations.

    “initially my focus was on more conventional investigations, and there was little I could do when I first heard about the sample in 1996”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:3129-3260 testimony first hand

  68. 68

    By early 1998, Bill Chalker's circle of "invisible college" colleagues had expanded to include scientists from the biochemical field.

    “by early 1998 my circle of “invisible college” colleagues had expanded to include some scientists from the biochemical field”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:3276-3395 testimony first hand

  69. 69

    The biochemists involved in analysing Peter Khoury's hair sample were cautiously interested in UFOs but, mindful of the subject's stature as "forbidden science", insisted their involvement be conducted strictly on an anonymous basis.

    “They were cautiously interested in UFOs, but mindful of the subject’s stature as “forbidden science,” they insisted that their involvement would need to be conducted strictly on an anonymous basis.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:3403-3594 testimony first hand

  70. 70

    The biochemists working with Bill Chalker's group were well established in their field, with well-regarded peer-reviewed publications and research.

    “The biochemists were well established in their field, with well-regarded peer-reviewed publications and research.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:3601-3705 testimony first hand

  71. 71

    Bill Chalker's group, which called itself the Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG), decided he would be the public face of this biochemical variant of the UFO "invisible college", because he had an existing public profile and strong connections with key researchers worldwide.

    “our group, which called itself the Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG),27 decided that I would be the public face of this biochemical variant of the UFO “invisible college.””

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:4019-4186 testimony first hand

  72. 72

    In 1998, Bill Chalker pointed out to his new biochemical associates in the Anomaly Physical Evidence Group that a credible hair sample might be worth their attention.

    “as my new biochemical associates were lamenting the general absence of credible UFO evidence pertinent to their field, specifically biological samples, I pointed out that maybe there was a credible sample that might be worth their attention”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:4225-4456 testimony first hand

  73. 73

    Bill Chalker outlined Peter Khoury's 1992 experience to the biochemists, who were immediately very interested rather than rejecting the story as bizarre.

    “I outlined the experience Peter Khoury had in 1992 and mentioned that a hair sample had been recovered. Rather than recoiling and roundly rejecting the bizarre nature of the story, they were immediately very interested.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:4468-4676 testimony first hand

  74. 74

    The Anomaly Physical Evidence Group's discussions focused on using polymerase chain reaction (PCR) amplification and sequencing of mitochondrial DNA on Peter Khoury's hair sample to challenge the credibility of abduction stories.

    “Our discussions then focused on the fact that techniques like polymerase chain reaction (PCR) amplification and sequencing of mitochondrial DNA on the hair sample might provide a real challenge to the credibility of abduction stories”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:4689-4915 testimony first hand

  75. 75

    Bill Chalker felt that while the prospects for a breakthrough in DNA analysis of the alien hair sample would be very small, biochemical and forensic approaches to alien abductions would offer scientific value.

    “I felt that while the prospects for a breakthrough would be very small, the utility and potential of the biochemical and forensic approaches to alien abductions would come as a breath of scientific fresh air.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:5031-5235 opinion first hand

  76. 76

    Bill Chalker told Peter Khoury that if the hair sample testing confirmed a prosaic origin, he might have some explaining to do, particularly to his wife Vivian.

    “I pointed out to Peter that if the testing confirmed a prosaic origin for the sample, then he may have some explaining to do, not only to us but to Vivian, his wife, in particular!”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:5689-5858 testimony first hand

  77. 77

    Peter Khoury told Bill Chalker that he knew what had happened and was keen to have his evidence tested, regardless of the eventual results.

    “Peter’s response was that he knew what had happened and was keen to have his evidence tested in this way, regardless of the eventual results.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:5870-6003 testimony second hand

  78. 78

    The biochemists undertook a standard forensic investigation of Peter Khoury's shed hair sample over several months, from late 1998 to early 1999.

    “The biochemists undertook a standard forensic investigation of the shed hair over several months, from late 1998 to early 1999.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:6066-6188 administrative first hand

  79. 79

    To extract fragments of mitochondrial DNA from the blond hair Peter Khoury encountered, a two-centimetre piece of hair shaft, located just above the root, was cut from the found hair and transferred to a small sterile tube.

    “a two-centimeter piece of hair shaft (located just above the root) was cut from the found hair and transferred to a small sterile tube”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:7532-7662 administrative first hand

  80. 80

    Similar pieces of hair shaft were cut from hair samples taken from Peter Khoury and his wife Vivian in Bill Chalker's presence, to act as controls.

    “Similar pieces of hair shaft were cut from the hair samples that had been taken from Peter and his wife Vivian in my presence and would act as controls.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:7669-7812 testimony first hand

  81. 81

    During the 1999 interview, Kary Mullis told Bill Chalker that another person, a friend who was a first-time visitor and did not know of the raccoon story, had encountered a "glowing raccoon" between the Anderson Valley cabin and the outside toilet.

    “He told me then that yet another person had encountered a 'glowing raccoon' between his cabin and the toilet. This was a friend of Mullis's, who did not know of the 'raccoon' story and was a first-time visitor.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch13:4442-4644 testimony second hand

  82. 82

    The incident in which Kary Mullis's friend encountered a glowing raccoon occurred during a party at the Anderson Valley cabin celebrating the announcement of Kary Mullis's Nobel Prize in 1993.

    “The incident occurred during a party at the cabin after the announcement of Mullis's Nobel Prize in 1993.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch13:4653-4753 testimony second hand

  83. 83

    On the way up the hill toward the Anderson Valley cabin, Kary Mullis's friend encountered a small glowing man who suddenly expanded into a full-sized man who said something like "I'll see you tomorrow."

    “On the way up the hill toward the house the friend encountered a small glowing man, who then suddenly expanded into a full-sized man who said something like, 'I'll see you tomorrow.'”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch13:4760-4932 hearsay third hand

  84. 84

    Kary Mullis's friend, who was not experiencing a drug- or alcohol-induced hallucination at the time, left the 1993 Nobel Prize party with another friend without informing anyone.

    “Mullis's friend, who was not experiencing a drug- or alcohol-induced hallucination, left with a friend without informing anyone.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch13:4943-5064 testimony third hand

  85. 85

    That night, after returning to their hotel in a nearby town, Kary Mullis's friend found himself outside in the hotel car park, troubled and terrified by the impression that he had somehow been back at the Mullis cabin.

    “That night the man inexplicably found himself outside in the hotel car park, troubled and terrified by the impression that he had somehow been back at the Mullis cabin.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch13:5120-5282 hearsay third hand

  86. 86

    On the following night, Kary Mullis's friend returned to the Anderson Valley cabin and was shocked to see the same "full-sized man" he had seen expand from a small glowing figure the night before drive up in a car.

    “The following night, he and his friend returned to the Mullis cabin... As the man arrived he was shocked to see the 'full-sized man' he had seen as an expanding apparition the night before drive up in a car.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch13:5290-5524 hearsay third hand

  87. 87

    Kary Mullis's friend left the second night's party immediately, holding Kary Mullis somehow responsible for the events of the previous night.

    “Panicked, he left immediately, holding Mullis somehow responsible for the previous night's events.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch13:5530-5621 hearsay third hand

  88. 88

    Kary Mullis identified the "full-sized man" his friend had seen at the 1993 Nobel Prize party as his elderly neighbour, who confirmed he had attended the party on the second night but was certain he had not been present on the first night.

    “Sometime later he tearfully revealed the full story to Mullis, who identified the man as his elderly neighbor. Mullis checked with his neighbor, and sure enough, he had come to the party on the second night... he was certain he was not there on the first night.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch13:5629-5938 testimony second hand

  89. 89

    Bill Chalker concluded it became very clear that Peter Khoury seemed to be talking about an entirely different episode from the 1992 event, one that apparently occurred about nine months earlier.

    “But it soon became very clear to me that Peter seemed to be talking about an entirely different episode than the 1992 event, one that apparently occurred about nine months earlier.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:10831-11003 opinion first hand

  90. 90

    Bill Chalker contacted Peter Khoury after listening to the McGhee/Dickeson tape and told him that in the interview he clearly refers to the two strange women but does not mention the hair sample.

    “I contacted Peter Khoury after I had listened to the tape and advised him that in the interview he clearly refers to the two strange women but doesn't mention the hair sample.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:11041-11209 testimony first hand

  91. 91

    Peter Khoury and Vivian Khoury were thoroughly puzzled and confused when told there were significant differences between the two apparent events.

    “I also indicated that there were significant differences between the two apparent events, but I did not describe these differences. Peter and Vivian were thoroughly puzzled and confused by this news.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:11218-11412 observation first hand

  92. 92

    Bill Chalker had serious reservations about the utility of hypnosis as a means of accurately retrieving memories, but after discussions with consultants concluded it might be useful for Peter Khoury to attempt hypnosis before listening to the long-lost interview tape.

    “I had serious reservations about the utility of hypnosis as a means of accurately retrieving memories, but after discussions with some consultants we concluded that before Peter Khoury listened to this long lost interview tape, it might be useful to see if hypnosis could shed any light on the situation.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:11867-12161 opinion first hand

  93. 93

    Bill Chalker wrote to both Moira McGhee and Bryan Dickeson, with Peter Khoury's written support, requesting a copy of the taped interview.

    “To try to clarify this situation, I wrote to both Moira McGhee and Bryan Dickeson, with Peter Khoury's written support, requesting a copy of the tape.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:1207-1352 testimony first hand

  94. 94

    Hypnotherapist and consultant Robb Tilley thought that the events of Peter Khoury's stressful 1992 (the murder of his sister-in-law and the job site head injury) could be used as "signposts" for hypnotic recall.

    “As the episode had occurred in a rather stressful year for Peter, between the murder of his sister-in-law and the head injury from the job site assault, my friend and consultant hynotherapist Robb Tilley thought that these events could be used as "signposts" for hypnotic recall.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:12173-12445 opinion second hand

  95. 95

    Bill Chalker wondered whether there was a causative connection between the hypnotic reliving of Peter Khoury's 1988 experience and the close proximity of the July 1992 incident.

    “The hypnotic "reliving" of a previously consciously recollected experience and the close proximity of another strange incident made me wonder if there was a causative connection.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:13255-13422 opinion first hand

  96. 96

    It took a few years before Moira McGhee was able to find, copy, and give Bill Chalker the tape of the McGhee/Dickeson interview with Peter Khoury.

    “It took a few years before Moira was able to find, copy, and give me the tape of their interview with Peter.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:1358-1460 testimony first hand

  97. 97

    The tape of the McGhee/Dickeson interview with Peter Khoury was not dated, but Moira McGhee felt the interview had probably occurred in either late March or early April of 1992.

    “The tape was not dated, unfortunately, but Moira felt that the interview had probably occurred in either late March or early April of 1992.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:1468-1602 testimony second hand

  98. 98

    Budd Hopkins passed on some Australian abductee contact details to Peter Khoury's new support group, but none of those witnesses had experiences featuring physical evidence such as hair samples.

    “Hopkins did pass on some Australian abductee contact details to Peter's new support group, but none of these witnesses had experiences that featured physical evidence such as hair samples.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:2583-2763 testimony first hand

  99. 99

    Bill Chalker considers it unlikely that an alternative source for the hair samples would have remained hidden, given the prominence Peter Khoury's case achieved after its initial documentation in 1999.

    “Given the prominence Peter's case achieved after its initial documentation in 1999, it seems unlikely that an alternative source for the hair samples would have remained hidden all that time.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:2773-2959 opinion first hand

  100. 100

    Bill Chalker considers the idea that Peter Khoury manufactured both the story about the strange women and their connection to the alien hair sample to be unsubstantiated and inconsistent with the facts.

    “The idea that Peter might have manufactured both the story about the women and their connection to the strange hair sample is unsubstantiated and simply does not fit the facts.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:2997-3167 opinion first hand

  101. 101

    In 2000, Bill Chalker came across apparently contradictory information Peter Khoury had given in an interview with Moira McGhee and Bryan Dickeson.

    “In trying to track down this material in 2000,1 came across some apparently contradictory information he had given in an interview with Moira McGhee and Bryan Dickeson, members of the UFO group Peter had originally joined in order to seek assistance to understand his 1988 experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:302-575 testimony first hand

  102. 102

    To Bill Chalker's knowledge, only one other account of possible alien hair emerged in Australia, in 1992 and 2001.

    “To my knowledge, only one other account of possible alien hair emerged in Australia, in 1992 and 2001.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:3175-3272 testimony first hand

  103. 103

    A young Queenslander reported to Peter Khoury in mid-1996 a strange encounter that had occurred some five years earlier with a bizarre-looking creature, and provided hair samples as evidence.

    “A young Queenslander reported to Peter Khoury in mid-1996 that a strange encounter had occurred some five years earlier with a bizarre-looking creature and provided "hair" samples as evidence.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:3278-3461 testimony second hand

  104. 104

    During the November 2003 hypnosis session, Robb Tilley asked Peter Khoury to progress to the next unusual event, having been unable to elicit memories of an earlier occasion involving the two women.

    “Robb Tilley took over the session again and asked Peter to go forward to the next strange event, as we had not been able to elicit memories of any other event involving the women before the 1992 episode.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:32904-33099 observation first hand

  105. 105

    Peter Khoury's hypnotic account of the 23 July 1992 experience was largely consistent with his conscious recollections, with some new elaborated details.

    “Peter Khoury’s account of the July 1992 experience under hypnosis was largely consistent with his conscious recollections. There are some elaborations of detail and some elements that are new”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:37483-37671 observation first hand

  106. 106

    Peter Khoury came to the November 2003 hypnosis session already primed with the idea that a tape existed describing an earlier encounter with the two strange women.

    “he had come to the session primed with the idea that a tape existed that revealed details described by him of an earlier encounter with the two strange women.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:37807-37959 observation first hand

  107. 107

    Bill Chalker, Robb Tilley, and Dick Warburton agreed that Peter Khoury was not fabricating the elements of his hypnotic account, though they debated whether it represented one distorted experience or evidence of at least two separate experiences.

    “Robb Tilley, Dick Warburton, and I were all in agreement that Peter wasn’t trying to make these elements up, but there was some debate about what his description represented”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:37967-38129 opinion first hand

  108. 108

    During the 2003 session, Peter Khoury listened to the audio recording of his 1992 taped interview with Moira McGhee and Bryan Dickeson, though the recording's quality was poor with frequent breaks and overlapping speech.

    “It was now time to let Peter listen to the interview he did with Moira McGhee and Bryan Dickeson back in 1992. The audio quality of the taped interview is poor, with frequent breaks, talking over each other”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:38277-38478 observation first hand

  109. 109

    Bill Chalker observed that Peter Khoury's account in the 1992 taped interview does not mention that Peter Khoury was not working in July 1992 due to illness following his head injury, indicating this was a different, earlier incident.

    “There is no reference to the fact that in July 1992 Peter wasn’t working, and hadn’t been for some time because of the illness that followed the severe head injury he had received a few months earlier. Clearly an entirely different incident is being described here.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:38882-39142 opinion first hand

  110. 110

    Phenomena Research Australia (PRA) said the Queensland hair sample was interesting, mineral in nature, and had some sort of "memory" behaviour, then later said contradictorily that it was of no real interest.

    “Unfortunately, PRA provided few details about their hair analysis, other than saying that the Queensland "hair" sample was interesting, mineral in nature, and had some sort of "memory" behavior, then later saying rather contradictorily that it was of no real interest.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:3972-4231 testimony second hand

  111. 111

    Bill Chalker noted that Peter Khoury described both women as naked in the 1992 encounter, in apparent inconsistency with the earlier statement that the blond woman's whole body was white.

    “Moira’s question about clothing leads Peter to say that the blonde was in overalls and the Asian was naked, although earlier he had said that “her whole body was white.” He described both women as being naked in the 1992 encounter.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:40541-40762 observation first hand

  112. 112

    Bill Chalker observed that the roles of the two women in the October 1991 episode were reversed relative to the roles in the July 1992 episode.

    “The activities of the two women are reversed in this episode relative to the 1992 episode.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:40944-41026 observation first hand

  113. 113

    Bill Chalker noted that the touching of Peter Khoury's hand to the woman's breast was not described at all in the account of the July 1992 encounter.

    “The touching of the hand to the breast was not described at all in the July 1992 account.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:41136-41217 observation first hand

  114. 114

    Bill Chalker noted that in the account of the July 1992 encounter Peter Khoury does refer to the eye colour of the woman, unlike in the October 1991 account.

    “In the 1992 account, Peter does refer to the eye color.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:41903-41952 observation first hand

  115. 115

    The Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG) undertook DNA examination of samples of the Queensland hair material and found it yielded only weakly amplified DNA consistent with human consensus results, suggesting prosaic contamination from handling the sample.

    “My group, the APEG, was eventually able to undertake some DNA examination of samples of this material, but found it yielded only weakly amplified DNA, consistent with human consensus results, which suggested prosaic contamination, namely the kind of results that would come from handling the sample.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:4242-4534 measurement first hand

  116. 116

    Bill Chalker noted that in the account of the July 1992 encounter Peter Khoury describes himself as progressively trying to resist the activity, in contrast to the October 1991 account.

    “In the July 1992 account Peter describes himself as progressively trying to resist this activity.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:42424-42512 observation first hand

  117. 117

    Bill Chalker observed that the Asian woman's reaction in the 1991 event, seemingly seeking pain, is contrary to the blond woman's reaction in the July 1992 episode, where she conveyed a sense that the activity was wrong.

    “This reaction of the Asian woman in the 1991 event is contrary to the reaction of the blond woman during the more fully described episode of July 1992. Rather than seemingly seeking pain, she reacts and conveys a sense that this is wrong.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:42922-43154 observation first hand

  118. 118

    Bill Chalker noted that Peter Khoury described his head being pulled to the Asian woman's breast as happening eight to ten times in the 1991 episode, whereas in the July 1992 episode he said it happened only three times and involved the blonde woman, not the Asian woman.

    “Peter describes his head being pulled to the Asian’s breast as happening eight to ten times in this 1991 episode; in the July 1992 episode he alleges that it only happened three times and on that occasion it was the blonde, not the Asian.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:43162-43394 observation first hand

  119. 119

    Bill Chalker noted that in the 1991 episode the Asian woman pushes Peter Khoury away, whereas in July 1992 it is Peter Khoury who pushes the blonde woman away.

    “In the 1991 episode, the Asian pushes him away, and in July 1992 he pushes the blonde away.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:43402-43488 observation first hand

  120. 120

    Bill Chalker noted there is an apparent break in the recording of the 1992 McGhee/Dickeson taped interview with Peter Khoury, with a description of Peter Khoury swallowing a piece of skin and starting to cough seemingly missing.

    “There seems to be a break in the recording of the tape. Apparently missing is a description of Peter swallowing the piece of skin and starting to cough.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:44024-44170 observation first hand

  121. 121

    Bill Chalker noted that Peter Khoury and Vivian Khoury clearly recollected the July 1992 event as happening while Peter Khoury was ill from his head injuries and during a stressful period when he was not working.

    “Peter and Vivian clearly recollected the July 1992 event as happening when he was ill from the head injuries, and because he was not working for some time it was a period of some stress.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:44949-45128 observation first hand

  122. 122

    Bill Chalker noted that in the July 1992 event Peter Khoury does have physical evidence of something on his penis, namely the hair that was recovered, unlike in the October 1991 encounter.

    “This is a clear difference between the two encounters. In the July 1992 event, Peter does have evidence that there was something on his penis, namely the hair that was recovered.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:45924-46092 observation first hand

  123. 123

    Bill Chalker observed that the October 1991 event seems much longer than the July 1992 encounter, and noted that in the later experience Peter Khoury apparently does not go back to sleep and instead rings Vivian Khoury just after 8:00 a.m., with no sense of two hours of missing time in that encounter.

    “This event seems much longer than the encounter of July 1992. Also, in the later experience Peter apparently doesn’t go back to sleep, and rings Vivian just after 8:00 a.m. There is no sense of two hours of missing time in that encounter.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:46638-46866 observation first hand

  124. 124

    Bill Chalker noted that Peter Khoury first stated during the interview that the incident with the two women in his bedroom occurred between four and six months previously, placing it in either October or December of 1991.

    “Elsewhere in the interview, Peter first mentioned that this incident with the two women in the bedroom of his home occurred between four and six months previously, making it either October or December of 1991.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:47074-47278 administrative first hand

  125. 125

    Bill Chalker considers it notable that the October 1991 encounter occurred approximately nine months before the July 1992 encounter, given that in the July 1992 encounter Peter Khoury recollected under hypnosis the Asian woman implying a pregnancy or children, raising the possibility that the two events were separated by a human gestation period.

    “Given that this is nine months before the more certain event in July 1992, in which Peter in recent fragmented “recollections” and under hypnosis recollected the Asian woman implying a pregnancy or children, one wonders if the two events were separated by a gestation period familiar to us all here on Earth.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:47285-47587 opinion first hand

  126. 126

    Bill Chalker concludes there is no coherent evidence supporting the scenario that Peter Khoury fabricated his story of encountering two strange women and recovering a strange hair sample during July 1992.

    “So we have no coherent evidence that supports a scenario that Peter Khoury fabricated his story of encountering two strange women and recovering a strange hair sample at the same time during July 1992.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:4752-4948 opinion first hand

  127. 127

    Bill Chalker noted that when Peter Khoury listened to the taped 1992 McGhee/Dickeson interview, he was shocked, surprised, and frustrated that he could not remember any of the specific elements of the encounter with the women described in it, but had no doubt the episode was different from the 1992 episode.

    “When Peter listened to this taped interview, he was shocked and surprised. And he was frustrated that he could not remember any of the specific elements of the encounter with the women described in the interview. But he has no doubt that the episode described was different from the 1992 episode.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:47632-47920 observation first hand

  128. 128

    Bill Chalker played the whole 1992 McGhee/Dickeson taped interview with Peter Khoury for Peter Khoury and Vivian Khoury together on the night after Bill Chalker received it, to see if it triggered recollections in either of them or shed light on the mystery.

    “That night I played the whole interview for Peter and Vivian Khoury together, particularly in an effort to see if it triggered any recollections in either, but also to see if any aspect could shed light on the whole dilemma of the tape.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:48010-48241 administrative first hand

  129. 129

    Bill Chalker noted that Vivian Khoury was puzzled by Peter Khoury's account of the October 1991 episode with the two women.

    “Vivian was also puzzled by Peter’s account of the episode with the women.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:48247-48314 observation first hand

  130. 130

    Bill Chalker noted that Vivian Khoury recollected the detail of Peter Khoury describing the stretching of the woman's breast skin, but did not remember the rest of the account of the two women, like Peter Khoury himself.

    “While most of it was disturbingly confusing and puzzling, she did recollect the detail of Peter’s stretching the skin of the woman’s breast. As for the rest, she, like Peter, did not remember that account of the women.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:48322-48534 observation first hand

  131. 131

    Bill Chalker noted that both Peter Khoury and Vivian Khoury agreed the taped account seemed to describe a different encounter from the July 1992 episode, and that all available information indicated the incident preceded the July 1992 episode and appears to have taken place late in 1991.

    “Both agreed that it seemed to describe a different encounter, and all the available information indicated that the incident preceded the July 1992 episode, and appears to have taken place late in 1991.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:48542-48738 observation first hand

  132. 132

    Bill Chalker considers the evidence for two separate encounters with the strange women compelling, and believes that when this interpretation is embraced the nature of the interactions becomes clearer, laying out a kind of alien logic or behaviour for contemplation.

    “The evidence for two separate encounters with strange women is compelling. When this interpretation is embraced, the nature of the interactions becomes clearer, and in a way a kind of alien logic or behavior gets laid out for our contemplation.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:48745-48975 opinion first hand

  133. 133

    Bill Chalker's narrative account states that in the October 1991 incident, Peter Khoury was home alone as he was not working that day, and unlike in the July 1992 event, he was not ill.

    “The incident from about October 1991 has Peter at home, as he is not working that day. In contrast to the July event, Peter is not ill.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:49239-49370 observation first hand

  134. 134

    Bill Chalker's narrative account states that in the October 1991 encounter, the naked Asian-looking woman first grabbed Peter Khoury's hand and took it to her breast three or four times, then grabbed his head and pushed it back and forth to her breast eight to ten times, seemingly trying to get him to bite her nipple, in what appears to be a bizarre and highly awkward attempt at foreplay.

    “The naked Asian-looking woman at first grabs Peter’s hand and takes it to her breast three or four times, then she grabs Peter’s head and pushes it back and forth to her breast eight to ten times, seemingly at times trying to get him to bite her nipple. It almost seems to be some sort of bizarre and highly awkward attempt at foreplay.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:49442-49769 observation first hand

  135. 135

    The hair sample that yielded the extraordinary DNA data came from Peter Khoury's own experience.

    “The hair sample that yielded the extraordinary DNA data clearly came from Khoury's own experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:4954-5041 opinion first hand

  136. 136

    Bill Chalker's narrative account states that Peter Khoury bit the Asian-looking woman's nipple and seemed to swallow a piece of it, while the blond woman, dressed in overalls, watched and appeared to be learning; when Peter Khoury began coughing the women departed, and he went back to sleep or woke after about two hours.

    “Apparently Peter bites her nipple and seems to swallow a bit of it. During this activity the blond woman, dressed in some kind of overalls, seems to be watching and learning. When Peter begins coughing, the women take their leave, we are not sure how. Peter goes back to sleep or wakes up after about two hours.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:49780-50085 observation first hand

  137. 137

    Bill Chalker's narrative account states that approximately nine months after the October 1991 encounter, the same two women returned, and this time it was the blond woman who brought Peter Khoury's head to her breast, though the encounter ended much more quickly.

    “There seems to be a definite sense of missing time. Some nine months later—after a gestation period, perhaps, for the Asian woman— the two are back for a return engagement. This time it’s the blond woman who brings Peter’s head to her breast. But it ends far more quickly this time.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:50093-50370 observation first hand

  138. 138

    Bill Chalker's narrative account states that when Peter Khoury bit the blond woman's breast during the July 1992 encounter, her reaction indicated to the Asian woman that it had not gone as it had the previous time, and speculates that the Asian woman may have been signalling that she was or had been pregnant, having a somewhat distended stomach.

    “When Peter bites her breast, she reacts, indicating to the Asian woman that it hasn’t gone like the last time. The Asian may be giving a sign that she is (or was) pregnant—she has a somewhat distended stomach.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:50377-50578 opinion first hand

  139. 139

    Bill Chalker's narrative account states that Peter Khoury began the July 1992 encounter under the bedcover but ended it on top of the bedcover, and notes there is an unnoticed discontinuity in the flow of events, with a hair possibly linked to the women left on his penis while he remained awake this time.

    “In the beginning Peter was under the bedcover. At the end he was on top of it. There is some sort of unnoticed discontinuity in the flow of events. While Peter is coughing, the pair disappears again, but this time a hair that might have an exotic link to both of them is left in a very obvious place—on his penis. He remains awake this time.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:50588-50924 observation first hand

  140. 140

    Bill Chalker considers that, without the physical hair evidence, it would be tempting to attribute the July 1992 encounter to the medication Peter Khoury was taking, though such medications are not generally linked with inducing major sensory disturbances such as hallucinations, with only isolated cases having these as possible less common side effects.

    “Without this physical evidence it would be tempting to attribute the 1992 encounter to perhaps the medication Peter was on. While not generally linked with inducing major sensory disturbances such as hallucinations, some may have had these factors as possible less common side effects in isolated cases.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:51023-51320 opinion first hand

  141. 141

    Bill Chalker considers that the hair evidence from the July 1992 encounter supported rather than conflicted with the reality of the encounter, and was hardly the stuff of hallucinations.

    “However, the hair evidence, which supported rather than conflicted with the reality of the encounter, was hardly the stuff of hallucinations.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:51328-51454 opinion first hand

  142. 142

    Bill Chalker noted that during his extended period of medication Peter Khoury only had the strange July 1992 experience once, and that the October 1991 encounter occurred without medication, injury, or stress as possible factors.

    “During his extended period of medication Peter only had this strange experience once and the apparent 1991 encounter occurred without medication, injury or stress as possible factors.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:51471-51646 observation first hand

  143. 143

    Bill Chalker speculates that Vivian Khoury's priorities during the difficult period after the July 1992 encounter revolved around family rather than the alien encounters, and that her only reference point since then was Peter Khoury's clear, consistent, and often repeated recollections of the July 1992 episode and the hair recovery.

    “While supportive of Peter, her priorities during this difficult time revolved around family, not aliens. Since then, her only reference point was Peter’s clear, consistent and often repeated recollections of the 1992 episode and the hair recovery.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:51750-51988 opinion first hand

  144. 144

    Bill Chalker considers it uncertain whether the job site assault could have caused Peter Khoury's memory loss of the October 1991 episode, or whether the July 1992 encounter itself may have been instrumental in preventing recall of the earlier experience.

    “Could the job site assault have caused memory loss, or were other factors at work? Could his encounter in July 1992 have been instrumental in preventing recall of the earlier experience? We may never know for certain, but we do know that the July 1992 encounter occurred.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:51999-52261 opinion first hand

  145. 145

    Bill Chalker considers that the DNA forensic work has given an extraordinary level of certainty that the July 1992 encounter occurred, and that all the evidence argues against the July 1992 experience and the alien hair being a hoax, a delusion, or a fantasy.

    “The DNA forensic work has given us an extraordinary level of certainty of that event. All the evidence argues that the July 1992 experience and the “hair of the alien” are not about a hoax, a delusion, or some fantasy.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:52272-52482 opinion first hand

  146. 146

    Moira McGhee believed the McGhee/Dickeson interview had occurred soon after the murder of Peter Khoury's sister-in-law on March 17, 1992.

    “Moira believed the interview had occurred soon after a major traumatic event in the Khoury family—the shocking death of Peter Khoury's sister-in-law, who was murdered on March 17, 1992.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:5230-5410 testimony second hand

  147. 147

    Moira McGhee recollects that the McGhee/Dickeson interview with Peter Khoury took place a few weeks after the murder of Peter Khoury's sister-in-law, as she had asked Peter whether he wanted to do the interview at that time because of the family tragedy.

    “Moira McGhee recollects that their interview with Peter took place a few weeks later, as she had asked Peter whether he wanted to do the interview at the time because of the family tragedy.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:5786-5967 testimony second hand

  148. 148

    Moira McGhee and Bryan Dickeson said that in their taped interview with Peter Khoury he talked about the strange women but did not mention anything about the hair.

    “The two said they had taped an interview with Peter in which he talked about the strange women, but did not mention anything about the hair.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:588-723 testimony second hand

  149. 149

    Moira McGhee remembered that Peter Khoury made a point of getting her and Bryan Dickeson to look at his head to see where the needle had been inserted during his 1988 experience.

    “Moira remembered that Peter made a point of getting them to look at his head to see where the needle had been inserted during his 1988 experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:6051-6186 testimony second hand

  150. 150

    Moira McGhee recollected that Peter Khoury had to part his hair before she could feel a big lump at the location of the 1988 needle insertion.

    “McGhee recollected that Peter had to part his hair before she could feel a big lump at the location.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:6198-6289 testimony second hand

  151. 151

    The McGhee/Dickeson interview with Peter Khoury occurred before May 13, 1992, when he received a severe head injury during the job site assault, based on the fact McGhee only saw the smaller lump from the 1988 needle insertion and not the more evident head trauma from the job site injury.

    “This clearly placed their interview as occurring before May 13, 1992, when he received the severe head injury during the job site assault. This injury required several stitches. I have seen a video of his head injury, and McGhee clearly saw only the much smaller lump linked to the 1988 needle insertion and not the much more evident and severe head trauma.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:6300-6650 opinion first hand

  152. 152

    Bill Chalker has seen a video of Peter Khoury's May 13, 1992 head injury.

    “I have seen a video of his head injury, and McGhee clearly saw only the much smaller lump linked to the 1988 needle insertion and not the much more evident and severe head trauma.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:6478-6650 observation first hand

  153. 153

    Vivian Khoury recollects having to write many notes for Peter Khoury during his long recovery period, to remind him to do things such as taking his medicine.

    “Vivian recollects vividly having to write many notes for Peter during his long recovery period, to remind him to do things, such as taking his medicine.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:6775-6918 testimony second hand

  154. 154

    Bill Chalker wonders whether Peter Khoury's inability to remember a possible earlier episode involving the two women was due to short-term memory loss, a deliberate effort by the strange women to block his recall, or a flawed or imperfect memory and forced reconstruction.

    “One has to wonder if his inability to remember a possible earlier episode involving the two women was due either to short-term memory loss or to a deliberate effort by the strange women to block his recall. Or was there no such separate event and are we dealing with a flawed or imperfect memory and forced reconstruction?”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:6929-7236 opinion first hand

  155. 155

    Bill Chalker considers that the severe head injury and its short-term consequences do not explain the whole July 1992 event, because there remains the presence of the hair and the extraordinary DNA results that confirm aspects of Peter Khoury's strange encounter.

    “The severe head injury and its short-term consequences also do not provide an explanation for the whole July 1992 event, as we have ultimately the presence of the hair to explain and the extraordinary DNA results that in a remarkable way confirm aspects of Peter Khoury's strange encounter.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:7253-7533 opinion first hand

  156. 156

    Internal evidence on the McGhee/Dickeson tape supports an interview date occurring between March 17 and May 13, 1992, before late April, around Peter Khoury's birthday.

    “Some internal evidence on the tape adds further support to an interview date occurring between March 17 and May 13, 1992, indeed before late April—around Peter's birthday.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:7545-7707 opinion first hand

  157. 157

    Bill Chalker concludes that the dating exercise suggests the McGhee/Dickeson interview probably occurred in late March, or less likely early April, and that an event involving the two strange women most likely took place in October 1991.

    “As this dating exercise seems to suggest that the interview probably occurred in late March (or, less likely, early April), then an event apparently involving the two strange women mostly likely took place in October 1991.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:8753-8970 opinion first hand

  158. 158

    Bill Chalker heard about Peter Khoury's 1992 encounter many months after it occurred.

    “Since I heard about Peter's 1992 encounter many months after its occurrence, I wanted to know if what Peter had told other people about this experience was consistent in every detail with what he told me.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:96-297 testimony first hand

  159. 159

    Bill Chalker considers that had alien hair been recovered in cases such as the 1976 Bolton, Lancashire abduction, DNA analysis could substantiate whether the accounts were something more than bizarre stories.

    “Had the alien hair been recovered in these cases, a DNA analysis could substantiate whether these accounts were something more than just bizarre stories.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:10486-10631 opinion first hand

  160. 160

    Bill Chalker considers that the preoccupation with reports of grays may have misdirected a generation of UFO researchers and delayed a more realistic appreciation of what might actually be going on.

    “The preoccupation with reports of grays may have misdirected a generation of researchers and perhaps delayed a more realistic appreciation of what might actually be going on.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:10862-11033 opinion first hand

  161. 161

    Whitley Strieber asked Bill Chalker to investigate the 1976 New South Wales encounter described in the letter, since it had come from Australia.

    “He asked me to investigate the experience detailed in the letter, since it had come from Australia.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:1236-1325 testimony first hand

  162. 162

    Whitley Strieber told Bill Chalker that he had deliberately omitted the detail of hair on the visitors from his descriptions in Communion, as a way of later evaluating the authenticity of reports he expected to receive.

    “The key element that Whitley Strieber told me he had left out in his descriptions of his "visitors" was the presence of hair. He had omitted this element from his book in order to have a way of later identifying possibly authentic descriptions of the "visitors."”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:1337-1589 testimony second hand

  163. 163

    The widespread exposure of The Interrupted Journey did not immediately unleash a flood of similar interrupted-journey or abduction accounts.

    “The widespread exposure of the book did not immediately unleash a flood of similar "interrupted journey" or abduction accounts.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:13622-13740 observation first hand

  164. 164

    Bill Chalker considers there to be striking similarities, alongside apparent differences, between the blond-haired woman who coupled with Antonio Villas-Boas and Peter Khoury's blond interloper.

    “There seems to be some striking similarities between the strange blond-haired woman who coupled with Villas-Boas and Peter Khoury's blond interloper, though differences are also apparent.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:16197-16375 opinion first hand

  165. 165

    Bill Chalker notes that the circular mark and lesions found on Joao Valerio da Silva recall elements of Peter Khoury's 1992 experience and Credo Mutwa's encounter in the late 1950s.

    “both elements that recall Peter Khoury's 1992 experience and that of Credo Mutwa in the late 1950s.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:19096-19189 opinion first hand

  166. 166

    Bill Chalker considers the presence of hair in reports of aliens to be quite widespread, despite it appearing in only one of the thousands of letters Whitley Strieber received.

    “my point here is that the presence of hair in reports of aliens is in fact quite widespread”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:1994-2075 opinion first hand

  167. 167

    The focused DNA (Deoxyribonucleic Acid) profiling technique used in the Peter Khoury alien abduction case addresses the credibility of claims that alien abductors have a genetic agenda.

    “Therefore, the focused DNA profiling technique we used in the Peter Khoury case goes to the very heart of one of the key claims behind the alleged alien abduction agenda.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:21574-21737 opinion first hand

  168. 168

    The original analysis of the alien hair in the Peter Khoury alien abduction case confirmed it came from someone genetically close to normal humans but of a very unusual racial type.

    “And indeed our original analysis confirmed the “alien hair” in the Peter Khoury case came from someone who was genetically close to normal humans, but of a very unusual racial type.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:22054-22230 measurement first hand

  169. 169

    Bill Chalker suggests Peter Khoury's two encountered females may be the "hybrids" said to be the goal of an alleged alien genetic agenda.

    “Perhaps Peter Khoury’s two females are the “hybrids” that are said to be the goal of the aliens’ genetic agenda.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:22237-22342 opinion first hand

  170. 170

    Peter Khoury's account of the July 1992 episode featuring humanised alien women included the presence of hair on the beings, a feature Bill Chalker considers a key element largely hidden or ignored by many researchers.

    “Peter's account of the July 1992 episode featuring the rather humanized "alien" women offered up in a very bizarre way the key feature that had been largely hidden or ignored by many researchers: hair.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:2284-2480 opinion first hand

  171. 171

    The alien hair sample obtained in the Peter Khoury alien abduction case was not the only sample Bill Chalker subjected to DNA analysis; another alleged alien hair sample did not show the same anomalies.

    “It should be noted that the “alien hair” sample obtained in the Peter Khoury case is not the only one we subjected to DNA analysis. There was another alleged “alien hair” sample, but it did not show the kind of anomalies we obtained in Peter’s case.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:28122-28366 administrative first hand

  172. 172

    Mike Wood, a local businessman from the mid-north coast of New South Wales near Foster, initially contacted the Australian UFO Research Network's telephone hotline to report unusual experiences.

    “A local businessman, whom I’ll refer to as “Mike Wood,” from the mid-north coast of New South Wales near Foster, had initially contacted the Australian UFO Research Network’s telephone hotline to report some unusual experiences.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:28373-28589 administrative first hand

  173. 173

    A slowly escalating UFO and alien abduction dynamic seemed to unfold involving Mike Wood and his daughter.

    “What seemed to be unfolding was a slowly escalating UFO and alien abduction dynamic that also seemed to involve the witness’s daughter.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:28604-28730 observation first hand

  174. 174

    UFO Research (NSW) contacted Bill Chalker about the Mike Wood hair sample due to its apparent similarity to Peter Khoury's 1992 experience, and eventually gave him the sample for possible DNA testing.

    “Because of that development, and the incident’s apparent similarity to Peter Khoury’s 1992 experience, the group contacted me and eventually gave me the sample for possible DNA testing.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:29077-29254 administrative first hand

  175. 175

    Mike Wood was not the only person in his area to have seen UFOs; others in the community had also seen them.

    “I discovered that Mike was not the only one in the area to have seen UFOs; so did others in the community.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:29390-29486 observation first hand

  176. 176

    Bill Chalker was naturally suspicious and wondered if the incident was a hoax when he first heard of it from Bryan Dickeson of UFO Research (NSW), but Bryan Dickeson did not think so.

    “When I first heard of this incident from Bryan Dickeson of UFO Research (NSW), I was naturally suspicious. I wondered if this was some sort of crude hoax. He didn’t think so.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:31805-31976 opinion first hand

  177. 177

    Bill Chalker judged that the Mike Wood hair sample story did not have the strengths of Peter Khoury's case, especially because the chain of evidence had been broken.

    “It was clear to me that the story did not have the strengths of Peter Khoury’s case, especially as the chain of evidence—an important factor in forensically establishing context and relationship-had been broken.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:31980-32184 opinion first hand

  178. 178

    Mike Wood said he dropped the hair sample, then went back and found it again on the bathroom floor before placing it in the bag, leaving Bill Chalker uncertain whether it was the same hair sample.

    “Mike said he dropped the hair sample, then went back and found it again on the bathroom floor and placed it in the bag. How certain could we be that it was the same hair sample? Mike seemed fairly confident. I wasn’t.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:32193-32408 testimony first hand

  179. 179

    When Bill Chalker visited the Wood family, he took control hair samples from Mike Wood, his partner, his daughter, her daughter, and his son-in-law, and found Mike Wood's daughter's hair sample visually similar to the alien hair under high-powered microscope inspection, while the rest were obviously different.

    “When I visited the family, I took control samples from Mike, his partner, his daughter, her daughter, and his son-in-law. On visual inspection, which I then verified under a high-powered microscope, his daughter’s hair sample looked similar to the “alien hair.” The rest were obviously different.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:32412-32698 observation first hand

  180. 180

    Despite the difficulty of possible contamination by prior information, Bill Chalker judged Mike Wood to seem credible, struggling to come to grips with what he perceived as a real UFO and alien contact and abduction situation.

    “Despite these obvious difficulties of “contamination” by prior information, Mike Wood seemed to be credible. He gave the impression of someone who was struggling to come to grips with what he perceived was a real UFO and alien contact and abduction situation.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:32916-33165 opinion first hand

  181. 181

    A preliminary mitochondrial DNA PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) profiling comparison against the human consensus was performed on both the alien hair sample and Mike Wood's daughter's hair sample, and both were found to be within the normal human consensus DNA range, though different from each other.

    “Ultimately we did the preliminary step of undertaking a mitochondrial DNA PCR profiling comparison against the “human consensus” on both the “alien hair” and Mike’s daughter’s sample. While different, both were within the normal “human consensus” DNA range.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:33177-33428 measurement first hand

  182. 182

    The Mike Wood alien hair sample did not display the unusual variations from normal human consensus DNA hypervariability seen in the Peter Khoury sample.

    “This “alien hair” sample did not display the unusual variations from normal human consensus in the region of DNA hypervariability seen in the Khoury sample.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:33436-33585 measurement first hand

  183. 183

    Bill Chalker continues to monitor Mike Wood's ongoing experience.

    “We continue to monitor Mike Wood’s ongoing experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:33647-33690 administrative first hand

  184. 184

    The cover painting of the alien visitor on Whitley Strieber's 1987 book Communion helped entrench the gray alien stereotype in public consciousness.

    “The cover painting of the alien "visitor" on Whitley Strieber's 1987 book Communion served to entrench this image widely in the public consciousness.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:350-485 observation first hand

  185. 185

    On 1988-02-20, Whitley Strieber called Bill Chalker to give him details of the 1976 New South Wales case and some other Australian events, and said he had asked the witness to write to Chalker.

    “On February 20, 1988, Whitley Strieber called me to give me some details of this and some other Australian events. He said he had asked the witness to write to me.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:6400-6560 testimony first hand

  186. 186

    Bill Chalker spoke to the 1976 New South Wales woman on the phone after receiving her letter, and later interviewed her extensively in person when she came to Sydney.

    “I spoke to the woman on the phone after receiving her letter and later interviewed her extensively in person when she came to Sydney.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:6564-6690 testimony first hand

  187. 187

    The hypnosis session with the 1976 New South Wales woman was ended when she began to feel uncomfortable describing the experience, and no further sessions were undertaken.

    “When she started to feel uncomfortable describing the experience, the session was ended. She found that focusing on the beings' appearance frightened her and she did not want to continue. The psychologist and I respected her wishes, and no further sessions were undertaken.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:7232-7494 observation first hand

  188. 188

    When asked to describe an alien, most people describe a small, bald gray being with large dark eyes.

    “Ask anyone what an alien looks like, and just about everyone will describe a small, bald gray being with large dark eyes”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:76-192 opinion first hand

  189. 189

    While most descriptions of grays refer to hairless beings, the presence of alien hair is noted in a significant number of abduction cases.

    “While most descriptions of alien beings present in abduction episodes, particularly the so-called "grays," refer to hairless beings, the presence of alien "hair" is noted in a significant number of cases.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:9482-9680 observation first hand

  190. 190

    Bill Chalker visited Oliver Harry Turner, a retired Australian government scientist, at his home in the summer of 2001.

    “In the course of my research into the UFO phenomenon, I visited Oliver Harry Turner, a retired Australian government scientist, at his home in the summer of 2001.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:109-266 observation first hand

  191. 191

    Bill Chalker considers the apocalyptic contact-and-prophecy narrative given by Vicki Klein a familiar mantra in UFO contact experiences, usually rooted in something apocalyptic and generally unrealised.

    “This is a very familiar mantra in UFO contact experiences—contact and prophecy— usually rooted in something apocalyptic and generally always unrealized.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:11905-12046 opinion first hand

  192. 192

    Bill Chalker found what followed in Oliver Harry Turner's notes striking for how closely it resembled the alien abduction accounts that would come to dominate UFO controversy fifteen years later.

    “It’s what follows in Harry Turner’s notes that really struck me—how the story strikingly resembles the alien abduction accounts that would come to dominate the UFO controversy fifteen years later.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:14879-15069 opinion first hand

  193. 193

    During his 2001 visit, Oliver Harry Turner handed Bill Chalker ten pages of his handwritten notes on his 1971-1972 investigation of a Canberra woman named Mrs. Klein.

    “During our discussions he handed me what turned out to be a particularly remarkable document—ten pages of his handwritten notes—devoted to his investigation during 1971 and 1972 of a Canberra woman named Mrs. Klein.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:1511-1720 testimony first hand

  194. 194

    Bill Chalker considers Vicki Klein's account to share several features identical to those heralded as a breakthrough for understanding the alien abduction agenda by Budd Hopkins in 1987, including humanoid beings of the Nordic type involved in a genetic programme using painful ova removal, a room housing bred babies, and weak babies responding to human bonding.

    “In this account we have several features that are identical to the ones heralded as a breakthrough for the understanding of the alien abduction agenda by Budd Hopkins in 1987: the humanoid beings, one of them apparently of the “Nordic type,” involved in a genetic program that utilizes painful ova removal procedures, taking place in a strange room that houses bred babies (an alien incubatorium), and babies that seem weak and respond to bonding with humans.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:19051-19503 opinion first hand

  195. 195

    Bill Chalker considers the resemblances between Vicki Klein's 1971-72 account and later abduction literature astonishing.

    “The resemblances are astonishing.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:19780-19801 opinion first hand

  196. 196

    Bill Chalker had spoken with Vicki Klein once in 1991.

    “I had spoken with her once back in 1991.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:2061-2096 testimony first hand

  197. 197

    The earthquake, fire, and water catastrophe predicted to strike Canberra did not occur in 1972.

    “Needless to say, earthquakes, fire, and water did not decimate Canberra in 1972.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:21249-21324 observation first hand

  198. 198

    Vicki Klein died in 1994.

    “The worst was that Vicki Klein had passed away in 1994.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:21580-21630 administrative first hand

  199. 199

    Vicki Klein's eldest son David died in June 1978 at the age of 13, having fallen out of a tree.

    “her eldest son, David, had died in June 1978 at the age of 13, having fallen out of a tree”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:21680-21766 administrative first hand

  200. 200

    In February 2002 Bill Chalker visited Canberra, its suburb of Downer, and then Dalton, where the Klein family had lived since 1972.

    “In February 2002 I visited Canberra, its suburb of Downer, and then went out to Dalton, where the family had lived since 1972.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:21773-21894 administrative first hand

  201. 201

    Bill Chalker contacted Vicki Klein while examining the possible connection between earthquakes and unusual aerial lights.

    “At the time, I was examining the possible connection between earthquakes and unusual aerial lights, and this is what drew me to contact Vicki Klein.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:2228-2370 testimony first hand

  202. 202

    Ron Summers confirmed to Bill Chalker the basic story that Vicki Klein had revealed to Oliver Harry Turner.

    “Ron graciously agreed to an interview. He confirmed the basic story that Vicki had revealed to Harry Turner.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:22338-22439 testimony second hand

  203. 203

    In April 2002 Bill Chalker located Vicki Klein's sister, Gillian.

    “In April 2002 I located Vicki’s sister, Gillian.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:22724-22764 administrative first hand

  204. 204

    Vicki Klein did not share everything with her husband Gerry Klein because she saw him as a psychic block of wood not open to the wider, stranger aspects of reality.

    “Realizing that these things didn’t interest him, Vicki did not share everything with him. She saw him as a psychic block of wood, not open to the wider, stranger aspects of reality.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:24106-24279 testimony second hand

  205. 205

    Bill Chalker spoke with Adam Klein, Vicki Klein's second son, who was 36 years old at the time of the interview.

    “I finally spoke with Adam Klein, Vicki’s second son, then 36.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:24441-24499 administrative first hand

  206. 206

    In the late 1960s Vicki Klein had been involved with a Canberra UFO group.

    “I also knew that in the late sixties Vicki Klein had been involved with a Canberra UFO group.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:2481-2568 administrative first hand

  207. 207

    Adam Klein volunteered a DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) sample to Bill Chalker.

    “He even volunteered a DNA sample, but probably hopes I’ll never come asking for it.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:25717-25797 administrative first hand

  208. 208

    Vicki Klein took up a serious interest in earthquakes in the Dalton area.

    “It’s worth noting that Vicki took up a serious interest in earthquakes in the Dalton area.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:27194-27279 administrative first hand

  209. 209

    Vicki Klein impressed Bill Chalker as an intelligent and articulate woman willing to help a researcher examining the earthquake light hypothesis for UFOs.

    “She impressed me as an intelligent and articulate woman, willing to help a researcher examining the “earthquake light” hypothesis for UFOs.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:2732-2866 opinion first hand

  210. 210

    Dr. Marion Leiba had a very high opinion of Vicki Klein and the two had become firm friends.

    “I soon found that Marion Leiba had a very high opinion of Vicki, and they had become firm friends.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:27807-27897 opinion first hand

  211. 211

    Vicki Klein's story prefigured the notion of "star children" within the alien abduction phenomenon.

    “Vicki Klein’s story prefigured one other provocative aspect of the UFO abduction phenomenon, and that is the notion of “star children.””

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:28450-28575 opinion first hand

  212. 212

    In their 1991 conversation, Vicki Klein mentioned nothing to Bill Chalker about her own strange experiences.

    “She mentioned nothing to me about her own very strange experiences.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:2872-2927 testimony first hand

  213. 213

    Bill Chalker considers that stories like Vicki Klein's do not provide the kind of proof that the "star children" phenomenon requires.

    “Stories like Vicki Klein’s might suggest such a notion, but they are far from being the kind of proof that the “star children” saga requires.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:28816-28948 opinion first hand

  214. 214

    Oliver Harry Turner's 1971-72 notes on Vicki Klein's experiences prefigured several extraordinary elements of the alien abduction phenomenon that would not become public until researcher Budd Hopkins first described them in his 1987 best-selling book Intruders.

    “Harry Turner's 1971-72 notes revealed that Mrs. Klein's bizarre experiences actually prefigured several extraordinary elements of the UFO abduction phenomenon that would not become public for more than a decade and a half, when researcher Budd Hopkins first described them in his 1987 best-selling book Intruders.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:3092-3395 opinion first hand

  215. 215

    Oliver Harry Turner told Bill Chalker that while Vicki Klein told the Canberra UFO group of her sightings, she was careful not to mention the unfolding alien dynamic happening in her own house.

    “Turner told me that while Vicki told the group of her sightings, she was careful not to mention the unfolding “alien” dynamic happening in her own house.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:8570-8717 testimony second hand

  216. 216

    The contrasting hair colour Credo Mutwa described is strikingly reminiscent of the female being encountered by Antonio Villas-Boas a year or two earlier.

    “The contrasting hair color is strikingly reminiscent of the female being encountered by Antonio Villas-Boas only a year or two earlier.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:14164-14291 opinion first hand

  217. 217

    When Bill Chalker spoke to Credo Mutwa in 2002, he did not get the impression that the tail-like appendage detail was inspired by the 1957 Antonio Villas-Boas story.

    “When I spoke to Credo Mutwa in 2002 I did not get the impression that these elements were inspired by the 1957 Villas-Boas story.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:14485-14608 opinion first hand

  218. 218

    Bill Chalker's discussion with Credo Mutwa left him with the impression that the story was not recent elaboration or fabrication, but a genuine account influenced by the crosscurrents of Credo Mutwa's complex life journey.

    “The often poignant nature of our discussion left me with the impression that this was not about recent elaborations and fabrication, and perhaps was more to do with a real story told forthrightly but influenced by the crosscurrents of his complex life journey.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:14616-14868 opinion first hand

  219. 219

    Abductees in Western abduction accounts also mention the presence of other helpless abductees aboard the alleged alien craft.

    “Abductees in the West also mention the presence of other helpless abductees aboard the “ship.””

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:16853-16941 observation first hand

  220. 220

    Peter Khoury reported the same problem of a painfully swelling penis following his July 1992 alien encounter experience.

    “Peter Khoury reported the same problem following his July 1992 experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:17191-17254 testimony second hand

  221. 221

    Credo Mutwa's teacher, Mrs. Zamoya, told him that he had been missing for three days.

    “Credo Mutwa’s teacher, Mrs. Zamoya, told him that he had been missing for three days.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:18032-18112 testimony third hand

  222. 222

    Arizona abductee Travis Walton went missing for five days after his UFO encounter.

    “Arizona abductee Travis Walton went missing for five days after a UFO encounter.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:18120-18190 administrative first hand

  223. 223

    In Budd Hopkins's view, alien abductors are extraterrestrial and involved in an extraordinary genetic experiment in which human beings are first abducted as children and their cells sampled.

    “The alien abductors, in his view, are extraterrestrial and are involved in some sort of extraordinary genetic experiment. Human beings are first abducted when children. Their cells are sampl”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:19790-19971 opinion second hand

  224. 224

    John Kernott ran a mail route in the Kimberley area of northwestern Australia and heard many strange stories from Aboriginal people.

    “John Kernott, who had a mail run in the Kimber-leys area of northwestern Australia, had heard a lot of strange stories from aboriginals.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:22501-22625 testimony second hand

  225. 225

    John Kernott told Bill Chalker that tales of sexual contact resembling alien abductions were common among Aboriginal women in the Great Sandy and Central Deserts.

    “He told me that tales of sexual contact resembling alien abductions were apparently very common among aboriginal women in the Great Sandy and Central Deserts.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:22638-22788 testimony third hand

  226. 226

    Since about 1986, Central Desert Aboriginal women told John Kernott of 'feather foot' spirits that do not walk on the ground but walk in the air and move through walls to punish people.

    “Since about 1986, Central Desert aboriginal women have told him of “feather foot” spirits that do not walk on the ground but walk in the air and move through walls and things in order to punish people.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:22798-22992 hearsay third hand

  227. 227

    According to accounts relayed to John Kernott, the spirits' sexual assailants are often described as being like 'men in black' and their stomachs would swell and then go down after intercourse without any baby ever appearing.

    “Often their stomachs swell up and then go down. Their sexual assailants are often described as being like “men in black.””

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:23098-23212 hearsay third hand

  228. 228

    John Kernott's father-in-law, an Aboriginal man, told him that as a young man in the 1930s while camping with a group of Aboriginal people, they saw a green light spinning in the sky.

    “John’s father-in-law, an aborigine, told him that as a young man in the 1930s, while camping with a group of aborigines, they saw a green light spinning around in the sky.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:23560-23727 hearsay third hand

  229. 229

    According to the account relayed by John Kernott, the green light landed behind trees and little men shining with green light walked around the Aboriginal group before returning to the UFO, which then took off.

    “It landed behind trees. Lots of little men shining with green light came and walked around the aborigines, looking at them, and then walked back to the UFO, which then took off.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:23733-23906 hearsay third hand

  230. 230

    Bill Chalker considers the symptoms Credo Mutwa describes after ingesting the alleged alien flesh to resemble a form of anaphylactic shock.

    “the symptoms Credo Mutwa describes after ingesting the alleged alien flesh seem rather like a form of anaphylactic shock”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:26906-27021 opinion first hand

  231. 231

    Bill Chalker, as a chemist promoting biochemical DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) verification of claimed abduction evidence, considers it would be interesting to obtain a sample of the alleged alien flesh, but suspects it would be impossible to verify the chain of evidence.

    “As a chemist and one trying to promote biochemical DNA verification of claimed abduction evidence, I think it would be interesting to get some of this “alien flesh,” but I suspect that it would be impossible to verify the chain of evidence, even given the remote likelihood of any of this material surfacing.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:27260-27558 opinion first hand

  232. 232

    Bill Chalker considers Peter Khoury's reactions to ingesting the alleged alien flesh less severe than Credo Mutwa's, noting the African material had a less certain origin and was less fresh than Peter Khoury's sample.

    “His reactions were not nearly as severe as Credo’s, but the African material had a less certain origin and was certainly not as “fresh” as Peter’s either!”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:29301-29448 opinion first hand

  233. 233

    Bill Chalker considers Credo Mutwa's Wazungu account to be describing the Nordic type beings extensively reported in UFO literature.

    “Credo Mutwa appears to be describing the Nordic type beings that have been extensively reported in the UFO literature.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:32950-33057 opinion first hand

  234. 234

    Bill Chalker notes that most people write off Credo Mutwa's alien tales as aberrations or fabrication.

    “Most seem to write Credo Mutwa’s tales off as aberrations or just plain fabrication.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:34785-34857 opinion first hand

  235. 235

    Bill Chalker considers Credo Mutwa's stories to emerge from a culture marked by distrust of whites and authorities, a strong focus on oral history, and awareness of forbidden or taboo knowledge.

    “Credo Mutwa’s stories emerge from a culture marked by a distrust of whites, a distrust of authorities, a strong focus on oral histories rather than written history, and an awareness of taboos and forbidden or hidden knowledge”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:35016-35232 opinion first hand

  236. 236

    Bill Chalker considers Credo Mutwa to have been widely exposed to Western influences and suggests it would be natural for a storyteller to incorporate such material into his repertoire.

    “Clearly with Credo Mutwa we have a person who has been widely exposed to Western influences. It would be natural for a storyteller to incorporate such material into his repertoire”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:35574-35743 opinion first hand

  237. 237

    Bill Chalker, in cases he has investigated, tries to establish who the abductee has talked to and who previously investigated their account, to determine what 'baggage' may have been added to the story.

    “In cases I’ve investigated I always try to establish who such people have talked to, who has previously investigated or researched their account, and for what purpose, in order to determine what sort of “baggage” the abductee may have added to the story.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:37656-37904 testimony first hand

  238. 238

    Bill Chalker learned that Credo Mutwa did not know Cynthia Hind, an African UFO researcher and author of two books on the subject.

    “Credo Mutwa told me he did not know Cynthia Hind, an African UFO researcher and author of two books on the subject.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:43365-43472 administrative second hand

  239. 239

    Bill Chalker suggests that DNA work on Peter Khoury's alleged alien hair sample may hint at a reason for such beings' immunity to terrestrial microbes, namely that aliens may have genetically engineered an immunity to some or all human diseases.

    “Perhaps the startling DNA work done with Peter Khoury’s “alien” hair sample may hint at a reason for this behavior, namely, that “aliens” may have genetically engineered an immunity to some, if not all, human diseases.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:48611-48820 opinion first hand

  240. 240

    The owner of the blond hair sample from Peter Khoury's alien abduction case may have had the CCR5 gene deletion genetic factor, which is linked to resistance to diseases such as AIDS.

    “For example, the owner of the blond hair sample may have had the genetic factor of CCR5 deletion that seems linked to a resistance to things like AIDS.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:48831-48977 opinion first hand

  241. 241

    Credo Mutwa has written eight books, for which he claims he receives no royalties despite continuing sales, has been an artist since 1935 producing paintings and giant concrete statues while remaining unrecognised as an artist in his own country, and works as a healer claiming cures for major diseases.

    “as a writer of eight books, for which he claims he gets no royalties, despite the fact that they continue to sell; as an artist since 1935, with extraordinary paintings, giant concrete statues, and many other works to his credit, though he remains unrecognized as an artist in his own country; as a healer with cures for major diseases.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:52951-53278 administrative first hand

  242. 242

    Bill Chalker considers that Credo Mutwa's stories of personal experience with alien abductions fall short of being entirely credible evidence because they are part of his early origin stories, which only started surfacing in the late 1980s and early 1990s, consistent with the Western dissemination of such stories.

    “Credo Mutwa’s stories of personal experience with alien abductions, while suggestive and perhaps compelling, fall short as entirely credible evidence as they are part of his early origin stories, which started surfacing only in the late 1980s and early 1990s, consistent with the Western dissemination of such stories.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:62349-62659 opinion first hand

  243. 243

    Bill Chalker considers there is more compelling evidence that Credo Mutwa was talking more generally about aliens and UFOs in the 1960s and 1970s.

    “There seems more compelling evidence that Credo Mutwa was talking more generally about aliens and UFOs in the 1960s and 1970s.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:62669-62789 opinion first hand

  244. 244

    Bill Chalker considers that either Western abduction stories inspired Credo Mutwa's stories, or they are authentic but somewhat coloured by the processes from which they emerged.

    “Either Western abduction stories inspired Credo Mutwa’s stories, or they are authentic, but somewhat colored by the processes from which they emerged.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:62796-62938 opinion first hand

  245. 245

    Whitley Strieber felt that an Australian abduction case gave him the best description of the "grays" he had ever received.

    “It also occurs in the Australian case that Strieber felt was the best description of the “grays” he had ever received.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:8659-8768 opinion second hand

  246. 246

    The meteoritic-origin correlations for Roger Leir's implants are tentative and based on technical interpretations from meteorite data, a long way from confirming intelligent extraterrestrial sources.

    “While provocative, these correlations are tentative and were made on the basis of technical interpretations from meteorite data. This is a long way from intelligent extraterrestrial sources.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:10123-10305 opinion first hand

  247. 247

    Establishing pedigree was as critical for Bill Chalker in the case of Peter Khoury's hair sample as it was for Dr. David Pritchard's implant study.

    “This was extremely important for Dr. Pritchard, just as it was critical for me to establish such issues in the case of Peter Khoury’s hair sample and the experience from which it emerged.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:12465-12644 opinion first hand

  248. 248

    Dr. David Pritchard's implant study was hampered by the lack of control comparisons, unlike the control comparisons available for Bill Chalker's hair studies.

    “Dr. Pritchard’s study was hampered by the lack of control comparisons, such as we had for our hair studies.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:13359-13458 opinion first hand

  249. 249

    Bill Chalker is aware of no case to date of a credible video, webcam, or photographic image of an alien abduction that has been thoroughly investigated, well documented, and made widely available for peer review by UFO researchers and interested scientists.

    “I am aware of no case to date of a credible video, webcam, or photographic image of an alien abduction that has been thoroughly investigated, well documented, and made widely available for peer review by UFO researchers and interested scientists.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:15687-15922 opinion first hand

  250. 250

    Bill Chalker considers the 1999-2000 Florida factory abduction security videotape case highly questionable because the basic context of the case, such as who, where, and when, was never established.

    “He cited video and scientific analysis to back up his claim, but since the basic context of the case, such as who, where, and when, were never established, the case remains highly questionable.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:16291-16471 opinion first hand

  251. 251

    In 2003 Tom Deuley gave Bill Chalker a status report on the Ambient Monitoring Project.

    “In 2003 Tom Deuley gave me a status report on the AMP project”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:21450-21504 administrative first hand

  252. 252

    Bill Chalker asked Tom Deuley whether any prosaic actions by the abductees could create a false positive with something recorded in the Ambient Monitoring Project's journals.

    “I asked Deuley whether any prosaic actions by the “abductees” could create a false positive with something recorded in the journals.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:23133-23256 administrative first hand

  253. 253

    In September 2004 Tom Deuley and Mark Rodeghier informed Bill Chalker that progress in the analysis of the Ambient Monitoring Project data had been slow due to limited funding, difficulty finding an independent statistical analyst, and limitations of time, resources, and circumstances of the principal technical party involved.

    “In September 2004 Deuley and Rodeghier informed me that progress in the analysis of the AMP data had been slow due to limited funding, their difficulty finding an independent statistical analyst, and the limitations of time, resources, and circumstances of the principal technical party involved in the study.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:24434-24737 administrative first hand

  254. 254

    The alien claw found by Gary Lowrey was of interest to the biochemists working with Bill Chalker as part of the Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG).

    “This “claw” was of interest to the biochemists working with me as part of APEG.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:25953-26027 administrative first hand

  255. 255

    Bill Chalker tried to encourage independent enquiries to establish the bona fides of the Gary Lowrey alien claw case because it had emerged from the hotbed of Californian ufology and had already been caught up in considerable controversy.

    “because the case had emerged from the hotbed of Californian ufology and had already been caught up in considerable controversy, I tried to encourage some independent enquiries to establish the bona fides of the case.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:26037-26248 administrative first hand

  256. 256

    As far as Bill Chalker is aware, David Huggins never obtained hair samples from his claimed alien encounters for analysis.

    “As far as I know, Huggins has never obtained any such hair samples for analysis, nor am I aware of any significant results by Alexander in carrying out any of her forensic suggestions.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:2688-2860 observation first hand

  257. 257

    Bill Chalker considers the Gary Lowrey claw investigation a good lesson for investigators, showing the need to rigorously establish the strength of the link between reported events and any artefacts found and thought to be related to them.

    “This lengthy and very expensive investigation provides a good lesson for investigators. The incident and the analyses that followed strongly suggest the need for rigorously establishing the strength of the link between reported events and any artifacts found and thought to be related to them.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:28999-29287 opinion first hand

  258. 258

    Bill Chalker considers that a comprehensive and more thorough point-of-discovery analysis at the beginning of any case investigation would assist in determining whether the evidence merits a detailed and costly study.

    “A comprehensive and more thorough point of discovery analysis at the beginning of any case investigation would assist in determining whether the evidence merits a detailed and costly study.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:30010-30193 opinion first hand

  259. 259

    Bill Chalker considers that the phrase "science as a candle in the dark" should have a broader reference, and that science should be used to examine any unknown, specifically that science should light the way in the study of alien abductions.

    “But I feel the phrase should have a broader reference. I think that science should be used to examine any unknown, and specifically that science should indeed light the way in the study of alien abductions.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:30451-30646 opinion first hand

  260. 260

    Derrel Sims tells stories of forensic hypnosis, abductees inserted into abductions as 'Manchurian candidates', mass abductions, and recovered alien implants, but Bill Chalker considers the evidence he offers mixed, ambiguous, and ultimately unconvincing.

    “Sims tells stories of “forensic” hypnosis, abductees inserted into abductions as “Manchurian candidates,” mass abductions, and recovered “alien implants,” but the evidence he offers is mixed, ambiguous, and ultimately unconvincing.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:3116-3334 opinion first hand

  261. 261

    NASA's biochemistry studies of astronauts provide potentially interesting insights into the effects of altitude and weightlessness on a person's blood and other bodily functions.

    “NASA’s biochemistry studies of astronauts provide potentially interesting insights into the effects of altitude and weightlessness on a person’s blood and other bodily functions.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:4153-4321 opinion first hand

  262. 262

    Phyllis Budinger found the presence of amides in the stain on Betty Hill's dress, suggesting the presence of proteins.

    “In her analysis, Budinger found the presence of amides in the stain, which suggests the presence of proteins.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:4845-4945 measurement second hand

  263. 263

    The Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG) team led by Bill Chalker received dress samples and control biological samples pertinent to Betty and Barney Hill.

    “My APEG team received some dress samples and control biological samples pertinent to Betty and Barney Hill.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:5014-5116 administrative first hand

  264. 264

    A specialised ribosomal Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) DNA profiling was undertaken on Betty Hill's dress samples to extract non-human DNA along with standard assessments.

    “A specialized (ribosomal) PCR DNA profiling was undertaken to extract non-human DNA along with standard assessments.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:5123-5227 measurement first hand

  265. 265

    The Anomaly Physical Evidence Group's DNA results on Betty Hill's dress revealed nothing of an explicit alien nature but confirmed the usefulness of the techniques used.

    “While our results revealed nothing of an explicit alien nature, they confirmed the usefulness of the techniques.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:5240-5341 measurement first hand

  266. 266

    DNA found on Betty Hill's dress was connected to Betty and Barney Hill, and at least some of the stained areas were found to be due to spider's blood.

    “Despite the passage of decades, DNA found on the dress was connected to Betty and Barney Hill, and rather surprisingly, at least some of the stained areas were found to be due to spider’s blood.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:5354-5542 measurement first hand

  267. 267

    Treating the scene of an alleged alien abduction as a crime scene is one of the best ways to obtain physical evidence, an approach advocated for about a decade as of 2005.

    “One of the best ways to obtain physical evidence is to treat the scene of an alleged alien abduction as a “crime scene.” This approach has now been advocated for about a decade”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:591-761 opinion first hand

  268. 268

    Bill Chalker suggested control DNA testing be done on possible canine candidates for the mirror paw print case, but the controls do not seem to have been carried out, leaving the results inconclusive.

    “While I encourage the application of DNA testing, I suggested that some effort be made to do control DNA testing on possible canine candidates, but these controls do not seem to have been carried out, and therefore the results remain inconclusive.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:8238-8472 opinion first hand

  269. 269

    Peter Khoury lost the implant he reported recovering following his alien abduction experiences.

    “The problem is that the implants are rarely recovered; Peter Khoury, as we have seen, lost his.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:8750-8841 observation first hand

  270. 270

    The alien abduction phenomenon has not to date provided the kind of physical evidence that would persuade a scientist.

    “The abduction phenomenon is an extraordinarily complex human drama, but to date it has not provided the kind of physical evidence that would persuade a scientist.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:90-242 opinion first hand

  271. 271

    Alien abduction cases can sometimes provide the sort of physical evidence found in more traditional UFO cases, such as ground markings left behind in UFO landings.

    “abduction cases can sometimes provide the sort of physical evidence found in more traditional UFO cases, like the ground markings that may be left behind in UFO landings”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:115-276 opinion first hand

  272. 272

    Diane Harrison called Bill Chalker the day after the Gundiah abduction incident and filled him in on the rapidly unfolding events, having already been talking to the key participants.

    “the next day Diane Harrison ... called and filled me in on the rapidly unfolding events. ... she had been talking to the key participants.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:12939-13085 testimony first hand

  273. 273

    Diane Harrison asked Bill Chalker if he wanted to get involved in investigating the Gundiah case, and he quickly agreed, both determined to try to unravel the events whether fact or fiction, anticipating the "UFO bandwagon" would uncritically embrace the case.

    “Diane asked if I wanted to get involved in the investigation, and I quickly agreed. We knew it wouldn’t take long for the “UFO bandwagon” to uncritically embrace the Gundiah case as a cause célèbre. We were determined to try to unravel the events—whether fact or fiction.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:13185-13448 testimony first hand

  274. 274

    Keith Rylance told Bill Chalker and Diane Harrison that he had gone to sleep in the bedroom of his mobile home at about 9:30 p.m. on 2001-10-04, while Petra Heller had retired to her bedroom in the annex and Amy Rylance stayed on a couch watching television in the annex lounge.

    “Keith Rylance told us that he had gone to sleep in the bedroom of his mobile home at about 9:30 p.m. Petra had retired to her bedroom in the annex of the mobile home. Amy stayed on a couch watching TV in the annex room they used as a lounge.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:14125-14359 testimony second hand

  275. 275

    On the stormy night of 2001-10-04, at around 11:15 p.m., Petra Heller was reportedly woken up and, entering the adjacent lounge, was confronted by an extraordinary sight that allegedly quickly overwhelmed her.

    “On this stormy night, at around 11:15 p.m., Petra was reportedly woken up. When she entered the adjacent lounge, she was confronted by an extraordinary sight, which allegedly quickly overwhelmed her.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:14657-14852 testimony second hand

  276. 276

    Keith Rylance was woken by Petra Heller's screaming after she regained consciousness, and stepped into the lounge to be confronted by a highly agitated Petra Heller.

    “A short while later Petra regained consciousness and began screaming. The commotion woke Keith, who stepped into the lounge and was confronted by a highly agitated Petra.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:15507-15671 testimony second hand

  277. 277

    Keith Rylance told Bill Chalker that the items originally on the coffee table were found on the floor in front of the window, and that the window screen was torn both vertically and along the bottom of the window frame.

    “The items that were originally on the coffee table were now on the floor in front of the window. He told us that he then found that the window screen was torn both vertically and along the bottom of the window frame.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:15679-15889 testimony second hand

  278. 278

    Unable to get sense out of Petra Heller, Keith Rylance rushed outside trying to locate Amy Rylance, who was nowhere to be found; after a second search, he decided to call the police.

    “Unable to get any sense out of Petra, Keith rushed outside, trying to locate Amy. She was nowhere to be found. Keith then managed to get Petra to tell him what had happened. He initially didn’t believe her. After a second search for his wife, Keith decided to call the police.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:15897-16166 testimony second hand

  279. 279

    Keith Rylance called the Tiaro police around 11:40 p.m. on 2001-10-04, reporting that his wife had been abducted and asking for help, and due to short staffing it took about ninety minutes for Senior Constable Robert Maragna from Tiaro and an officer from Maryborough to arrive at the site.

    “Keith called the nearby Tiaro police around 11:40 p.m. reporting that his wife had been abducted and asked for help. Due to the short staff at that time of night, it took about an hour and a half after the initial call for Senior Constable Robert Maragna from Tiaro and an officer from Maryborough to arrive at the site of the incident.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:16175-16502 testimony second hand

  280. 280

    Bill Chalker considers that if biological effects are due to UFO light beams, forensic evaluations of their effects via DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) testing and other biomedical analyses may reveal striking information about the processes and technologies involved.

    “If such effects are due to these light beams, then forensic evaluations of their effects at the biological level, via DNA testing and perhaps other biomedical analyses, may reveal striking information about the processes involved and the apparent technologies deployed.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:1620-1880 opinion first hand

  281. 281

    Keith Rylance and Petra Heller claimed that their companion Amy Rylance had been abducted by a "spaceship," and as officers struggled to keep an open mind, they were joined by Sergeant John Bosnjak, officer in charge of the Tiaro police, who had been asleep when called to assist.

    “The two people, Keith and Petra, claimed that their companion, Amy Rylance, had been abducted by a “spaceship”! As the officers struggled to keep an open mind, they were joined by the officer in charge of the Tiaro police, Sergeant John Bosnjak, who had been asleep when the police called him to assist in the investigation.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:16681-16991 testimony second hand

  282. 282

    The young woman found at the Mackay BP gas station turned out to be Amy Rylance, who was apparently all right and was taken to Mackay Base Hospital where a doctor examined her.

    “The young woman turned out to be Amy Rylance, and the female caller explained that Amy was apparently all right, and was at the Mackay hospital, where a doctor had examined her.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:17776-17949 testimony second hand

  283. 283

    Diane Harrison took Keith Rylance's call and listened to the story that Keith and Amy Rylance told for about an hour, while Petra Heller was apparently sleeping at the time.

    “Diane Harrison took the call and for the next hour or so listened to the story that Keith and Amy told. Petra was apparently sleeping at the time.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:21803-21944 testimony first hand

  284. 284

    Bill Chalker called Keith Rylance at the motel and secured permission to record the conversation, while Petra Heller was again not available to talk about her part in the alleged events.

    “I put a call through to Keith at the motel, securing permission to record the conversation. Once again Petra was not available to talk about her part in the alleged events.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:21951-22116 testimony first hand

  285. 285

    Keith Rylance went into considerable detail about the events, referring to notes he and Petra Heller had apparently compiled during the day, covering the events Petra Heller had witnessed, what Keith Rylance had experienced, and what Amy Rylance told them had happened to her.

    “Keith Rylance went into considerable detail about the events, referring often to the notes they had apparently compiled during the day. The details described covered the events Petra had witnessed, what Keith had experienced, and what Amy told them had happened to her during her experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:22125-22405 testimony first hand

  286. 286

    Bill Chalker spoke with Amy Rylance mainly about events before and after the claimed onboard experiences, since Keith Rylance had already covered the latter in detail.

    “Finally, I spoke with Amy, mainly about the events before and after the claimed onboard experiences, because Keith had already gone into considerable detail about the latter.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:22418-22585 testimony first hand

  287. 287

    Keith Rylance seemed to want to control how both media and investigators would get involved in the Gundiah case, and his desire to contact the media promptly led Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker to suggest he think carefully about the possible ramifications of doing so.

    “Keith Rylance seemed to want to control how both media and investigators would get involved. His desire to contact the media promptly led both Diane and me to suggest that he should think very carefully about the possible ramifications of doing so.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:22594-22839 observation first hand

  288. 288

    Keith Rylance felt it was important to get the story out because it would come out anyway and this way he could control how it did, and he was also trying to restrict how investigators could look into their experience.

    “Keith seemed to feel that it was important to get the story out, as it would come out anyway and this way he could control the way it did. He was also trying to restrict the way the investigators could or should look into their experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:22844-23072 observation first hand

  289. 289

    Bill Chalker explained to Keith Rylance that basic sampling procedures on Amy Rylance's marks would be important in verifying the story.

    “I also explained how certain basic sampling procedures we could do with Amy's marks would be important in verifying their story.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:23304-23426 testimony first hand

  290. 290

    Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker decided to undertake a detailed on-site investigation of the Gundiah alien abduction case, and Keith Rylance told them the three witnesses would wait in Mackay for them and gave them permission to visit the Whispering Winds winery property in Gundiah on the way.

    “Since the story seemed destined to be a big one, Diane and I decided to undertake a detailed on-site investigation. Keith Rylance had told us that the three of them would wait for us to come to Mackay, as they were in no apparent hurry to return to Gundiah. They gave us permission to visit the property in Gundiah on the way.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:23434-23756 testimony first hand

  291. 291

    On 2001-10-09, Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker travelled to Gundiah, arriving at the Whispering Winds winery property just after 22:00, and because of the late hour obtained permission from the witnesses to stay there overnight.

    “Tuesday, October 9, 2001 Diane and I traveled to Gundiah, arriving at the Whispering Winds winery property, just after 10 p.m. Because of the late hour, we obtained permission from the witnesses to stay there overnight.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:23762-23972 testimony first hand

  292. 292

    Keith Rylance arranged for a neighbour to regularly check on the two pets left behind at the Gundiah property, a parrot and a kelpie dog, and indicated it would be okay to let the dog off for a run.

    “Keith had arranged for a neighbor to regularly check on the two pets left behind, namely a parrot and a kelpie dog. He indicated to us that it would be okay to let the dog off for a run.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:24029-24211 testimony first hand

  293. 293

    When Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker let the kelpie dog off at the Gundiah property, they observed it jump up on the window with the damaged screen, giving support to the possibility that at least some of the damage was caused by the dog, which closer inspection confirmed.

    “When we let the dog off, we observed its behavior. At one point it jumped up on the window with the damaged screen. This gave some support to the possibility that at least some, if not all, of the damage, could have been caused by the dog, and closer inspection confirmed this.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:24217-24489 observation first hand

  294. 294

    Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker inspected a damaged plant at the Gundiah property and found a possible prosaic cause in simple heat stress from hot sunlight, noting that a healthy flowering bush of the same species at Mt. Bassett cemetery in Mackay showed similar damage.

    “We also inspected the damaged plant and found a possible prosaic cause for it as well—simple heat stress from hot sunlight. A healthy flowering bush of the same species at Mt. Bassett cemetery in Mackay revealed similar damage.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:24496-24716 observation first hand

  295. 295

    Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker spoke to the police about the Gundiah case.

    “We also spoke to the police about the case.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:24724-24762 administrative first hand

  296. 296

    On 2001-10-10 in Mackay, Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker focused their investigation on the area where Amy Rylance had returned, trying to reconstruct the circumstances of her return, and spoke with staff at the BP gas station in Mackay who turned over surveillance videotape that might contain footage of Amy Rylance's visit.

    “Wednesday, October 10, 2001 In Mackay, we focused our attention on the area where Amy Rylance returned and tried to reconstruct the circumstances of Amy's return. We spoke with the BP gas service station staff that turned over surveillance videotape that might contain Amy's visit.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:24769-25045 testimony first hand

  297. 297

    Keith Rylance indicated to Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker that he would be available for questions in Mackay, but it became clear early in their investigation there that this was probably not going to be the case.

    “Keith Rylance indicated to us he would be available for questions when we got to Mackay, but it became clear to us early on the first day of our investigations there that this was probably not going to be the case.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:25124-25333 observation first hand

  298. 298

    When Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker contacted the Rylances' third motel in Mackay, they learned Keith Rylance, Amy Rylance and Petra Heller had already checked out that morning.

    “When we contacted the motel where they had been the night before, their third motel in Mackay, we learned they had already checked out that morning.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:25340-25480 observation first hand

  299. 299

    On 2001-10-11, Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker left messages on Keith Rylance's mobile phone but did not hear from him until the early afternoon, by which time they were leaving Mackay.

    “Thursday, October 11, 2001 We left messages on Keith's mobile phone but didn't hear from him until early in the afternoon of our second day, as we were leaving Mackay.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:25490-25651 observation first hand

  300. 300

    Keith Rylance apologised for not being available and said he, Amy Rylance and Petra Heller had relocated to an unspecified location after fleeing the area following a kind of "men in black" experience.

    “He apologized for not being available, but indicated they had relocated to an unspecified location after having fled the area following a kind of "men in black" experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:25659-25820 testimony second hand

  301. 301

    Keith Rylance reported being pursued by a high-powered, dark brown four-wheel-drive truck, which he said they managed to evade.

    “Keith reported being pursued by a high-powered, dark brown four-wheel truck, which they managed to evade.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:25833-25932 testimony second hand

  302. 302

    Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker never managed to sample Amy Rylance's marks, as Keith Rylance maintained that this sort of evidence was not necessary to prove their case.

    “We never managed to sample Amy's marks. Keith fell back on his mantra that this sort of evidence was not necessary to prove their case.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:25939-26069 observation first hand

  303. 303

    On 2001-10-15, Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker heard from Keith Rylance again but were largely unsuccessful in getting him to answer some of the questions and issues raised in their investigation.

    “Monday, October 15, 2001 We heard from Keith Rylance again, but we were largely unsuccessful in getting him to answer some of the questions and issues raised in our investigation.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:26076-26242 observation first hand

  304. 304

    Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker made Keith Rylance aware that Tiaro police would like to hear from him.

    “We made him aware that Tiaro police would like to hear from him.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:26258-26318 administrative first hand

  305. 305

    On 2001-10-18, Bill Chalker spoke with Keith Rylance again, who recanted the men-in-black experience he had earlier said had caused them to flee Mackay.

    “Thursday, October 18, 2001 I spoke with Keith Rylance again. He recanted his men-in-black experience, which he had told me had caused them to flee Mackay.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:26476-26624 testimony first hand

  306. 306

    Keith Rylance told Bill Chalker he had spoken with Maryborough police, but Bill Chalker responded that all investigation had been handed back to Tiaro police, the original investigating station, and suggested again that Keith Rylance speak with them.

    “Keith also told me he had spoken with the Maryborough police, but I responded that all investigation had been handed back to Tiaro police, the original investigating station. I suggested again that they would like to speak with him.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:26632-26860 testimony first hand

  307. 307

    On 2001-10-19, Keith Rylance called Bill Chalker and was angry about the preliminary report Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker had written, saying they had got it wrong and citing that they had given his age as 40 when he was 39, and Petra Heller's age as 39 when she was 35.

    “Friday, October 19, 2001 Keith Rylance called. He was clearly angry about the preliminary report Diane and I had written. He said that we had got it wrong and cited errors, namely, we had given his age as 40 (he was 39) and Petra's age as 39 (she was 35).”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:26866-27118 testimony first hand

  308. 308

    Bill Chalker told Keith Rylance that the age information had been gleaned from media reports, but that the actual case data was accurately reported given their limited access.

    “I said we had gleaned that information from media reports, but that the actual case data was accurately reported, given our limited access.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:27152-27284 testimony first hand

  309. 309

    Keith Rylance mellowed and agreed to answer Bill Chalker's questions by email so they could move on and start talking about the events, including the craft and the alien, though Bill Chalker and Diane Harrison had hoped to speak with Amy Rylance and Petra Heller separately and privately in more detail, but Keith Rylance remained omnipresent as the primary source of information.

    “Keith then mellowed a bit and agreed to answer my questions by e-mail so we could move on and start talking about the events, that is, the craft, the alien, and so on. We had hoped to speak with Amy and Petra separately and privately, in much more detail, but Keith was omnipresent as the primary source of information.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:27293-27600 observation first hand

  310. 310

    The New Idea November 2001 article described Bill Chalker as considered one of the best researchers in his field, and said he spoke to Keith Rylance about his desire to take DNA and blood samples from Amy Rylance, arguing that obtaining biological evidence was crucial to support Amy Rylance's claims that the triangular puncture marks on her thigh were evidence of alien experimentation.

    “Bill, considered one of the best researchers in his field, spoke to Keith about his desire to take DNA and blood samples from Amy. He argues that obtaining biological evidence is crucial to support her claims the triangular puncture marks on her thigh are evidence of alien experimentation.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:28080-28354 opinion second hand

  311. 311

    By December 2001, Keith Rylance's mobile phone and email contact details were no longer functional, and Diane Harrison and Bill Chalker were resigned to the fact that they would probably never get responses or answers to their numerous issues and questions, becoming highly dubious of the Gundiah case.

    “December 2001 Keith Rylance's contact details, mobile phone and e-mail, were no longer functional. Diane and I were resigned to the fact that we would probably never get any responses or answers to the numerous issues and questions we had. We were now highly dubious of the case.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:28753-29028 observation first hand

  312. 312

    In March 2003, Bill Chalker and Diane Harrison were contacted by an overseas source who suggested the Gundiah saga had more to do with a misguided secret Scientology "mission" to find a buried spaceship, as described in the Mission Earth science fiction series by Scientology's founder, L. Ron Hubbard.

    “March 2003 We were contacted by an overseas source who suggested the saga had more to do with some misguided secret Scientology "mission" to find a buried spaceship, as described in the Mission Earth science fiction series by Scientology's founder, L. Ron Hubbard.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:30396-30653 hearsay second hand

  313. 313

    The overseas source's Scientology-spaceship scenario seemed unbelievable to Bill Chalker, but the source claimed intimate knowledge of the Gundiah incident.

    “The scenario seemed unbelievable, but the source claimed intimate knowledge of the incident.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:30663-30746 opinion second hand

  314. 314

    At Tiaro police station in October 2001, Bill Chalker and Diane Harrison were shown a notebook apparently owned by Petra Heller, which police had removed from the Gundiah property.

    “However, when we were at the Tiaro police station back in October 2001, we were shown a notebook, apparently owned by Petra, which the police had removed from the Gundiah property.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:30756-30927 observation first hand

  315. 315

    The Tiaro police were suspicious of the notebook's content, as it seemed to have strange content they thought might be connected to the Gundiah case under investigation.

    “The police were suspicious, as it seemed to have some strange content they thought might be connected to the weird story under investigation.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:30938-31065 observation second hand

  316. 316

    Bill Chalker recognised some of the notebook's content as related to Scientology, including the words "Thetan" and "clearing", and at the time thought it probably was not relevant to their inquiries, though he reconsidered this after the 2003 Scientology tip.

    “I recognized some of its content as being related to Scientology, the words "Thetan" and "clearing," for example, and then thought that it probably wasn't relevant to our inquiries. But given this new information, maybe it was.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:31080-31306 observation first hand

  317. 317

    Bill Chalker was told the Kiama solid light story by a man he calls Graham, who was troubled by a bizarre experience on the south coast of New South Wales, Australia, at the beachside town of Kiama, in the early 1970s.

    “I was told this story by a man who was troubled by a bizarre experience he had on the south coast of New South Wales, Australia, at the beachside town of Kiama, in the early 1970s.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:3320-3494 administrative second hand

  318. 318

    Bill Chalker spoke to the witness he calls Graham on a number of occasions and met him in person for an extended interview, finding him a compelling witness grappling with the ontological issues that striking episodes often force people to confront.

    “I have spoken to the witness, who I will call Graham, on a number of occasions and met him in person for an extended interview. I found him to be a compelling witness who is grappling with the ontological issues that striking episodes often force us to confront.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:3502-3755 opinion first hand

  319. 319

    Bill Chalker has undertaken extensive research into UFO "physical trace" cases and argues that the evidence supports a physical dimension to the UFO phenomenon.

    “I have undertaken extensive research into the topic of UFO “physical trace” cases and have argued that the evidence supports a physical dimension to the UFO phenomenon.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:369-526 opinion first hand

  320. 320

    Bill Chalker is particularly interested in "solid light" cases, in which UFOs appear to use light in a coherent and controlled way.

    “I have been particularly interested in what are called “solid light” cases, in which UFOs appear to use light in a coherent and controlled way.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:542-681 opinion first hand

  321. 321

    Bill Chalker believes there may well be scientific value in "solid light" UFO cases, many of which appear to have biological effects on witnesses and abductees, ranging from benign to unpleasant to apparently beneficial healing effects.

    “I feel there very well may be scientific pay dirt in such cases. Many of these “solid light” cases appear to have biological effects on witnesses and abductees. Some are benign, some are not so pleasant, and others are remarkably beneficial, having what appear to be healing effects.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:894-1169 opinion first hand

  322. 322

    Ma Jian escaped from police custody in a small village in the middle of the night, having been held under suspicion of being a dissident or a spy.

    “In the middle of the night he had escaped from police custody in a small village, where he had been held under suspicion of being a dissident or spy.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:10024-10169 testimony second hand

  323. 323

    The DNA profile of the biological sample recovered during the Peter Khoury alien abduction case in 1992 suggests he encountered strange beings with a very rare genetic fingerprint.

    “The striking results that emerged from the DNA profile of the biological sample recovered during Peter Khoury's 1992 experience seem to confirm that he had a bizarre encounter with strange beings with a very rare genetic fingerprint.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:102-323 opinion first hand

  324. 324

    Bill Chalker suspects the 'crash' shown to Meng Zhao Guo was a reference to the collision of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 with Jupiter on July 16, 1994.

    “I suspect that the "crash" being referred to here is the crash of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9 into Jupiter on July 16, 1994.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:15216-15330 opinion first hand

  325. 325

    Bill Chalker considers Meng Zhao Guo's story to be essentially just that - a story, and a bizarre one at that - requiring further research anchored in a forensic/scientific approach to establish the reality behind it.

    “Like so many of the worldwide cases of alien abduction, Meng Zhao Guo's story is essentially just that—a story, and a bizarre one at that. To really establish the nature of the reality behind it, further research is required, and that research, whenever possible, needs to be anchored in the forensic/scientific approach I have advocated throughout this book.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:17027-17382 opinion first hand

  326. 326

    Bill Chalker does not suggest the Xinjiang Taklimakan mummies are related to the Nordic-type beings often reported in alien abduction stories, considering such a possibility only assessable once a complete DNA profile of the mummies and consistent DNA profiles from a significant number of abduction cases are available.

    “I am not about to suggest that the Taklimakan mummies are in some way related to the Nordic-type beings often reported in alien abduction stories. Such a possibility can only be considered once a complete DNA profile of the mummies is available and the biological evidence from a significant number of abduction cases provides a consistent DNA profile.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:2134-2478 opinion first hand

  327. 327

    Bill Chalker has a background in chemistry and always hopes for the chance to closely examine unusual physical residues associated with UFO encounters.

    “Given my background in chemistry, I always hope for the chance of examining such material closely.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:24129-24219 administrative first hand

  328. 328

    Bill Chalker never had the opportunity to analyse the physical residues from the 1971 Gladstone/Rockhampton, 1974 Canberra, and 1976 Nemingha UFO cases.

    “Unfortunately, I never had the opportunity to analyze these residues.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:24725-24785 administrative first hand

  329. 329

    Bill Chalker regards Vicente-Juan Ballester Olmos's investigative rigour and skills as beyond reproach.

    “whose investigative rigor and skills are beyond reproach in my opinion”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:24941-25004 opinion first hand

  330. 330

    No one is known to have analysed the viscous material that allegedly fell on Xavier Clares Jerez's car in 1985, and there has been no independent analysis of his alleged "alien" photographs.

    “as far as we can tell no one analyzed the viscous material that allegedly fell on his car back in 1985, and there has been no independent analysis of his “alien” photos.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:25463-25625 administrative first hand

  331. 331

    Bill Chalker concludes there is no credible evidence for the Xavier Clares Jerez story.

    “So ultimately there is no credible evidence for the story at all.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:25633-25694 opinion first hand

  332. 332

    Bill Chalker shifted his opinion on abduction experiences specifically because of the extraordinary evidence associated with the Peter Khoury and Kelly Cahill cases.

    “It is precisely this feature, “extraordinary evidence” supporting the anomalous events of Peter Khour/s and Kelly Cahill’s experiences, that caused me to shift my opinion on abduction experiences.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:26060-26244 opinion first hand

  333. 333

    Bill Chalker believes abduction stories that yield extraordinary data surviving a forensic and scientific gauntlet deserve serious attention.

    “Now I think that abduction stories that yield extraordinary data that survive a forensic and scientific gauntlet deserve serious attention.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:26258-26387 opinion first hand

  334. 334

    Bill Chalker considers that the Tuatha de Danann seem to have been advanced enough to arrive in western Ireland near modern Connacht by air, comprising two social classes: "gods" who taught medicine, smithing, communication, or druidry, and "non-gods" who were farmers or shepherds.

    “It seems the Tuatha de Danann were advanced enough to arrive in western Ireland (near modern Connacht) by air. They were comprised of two social classes: as “gods” teaching medicine, smithing, communication, or druidry, and as “nongods”—farmers or shepherds.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:27636-27884 opinion first hand

  335. 335

    Bill Chalker notes that descriptions of the Tuatha de Danann's blond hair and blue eyes recall both the blond woman with red body hair described in Antonio Villas-Boas's 1957 abduction and one of Peter Khoury's alleged female visitors.

    “These descriptions recalled not only the blond woman with red body hair in the 1957 abduction of Antonio Villas-Boas, but one of Peter Khoury’s female visitors as well.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:28194-28357 opinion first hand

  336. 336

    Bill Chalker considers that the Tuatha de Danann tradition and fairy folklore both feature tall, often long-haired, blue-eyed attractive beings with striking abilities and resources (the "Tuatha" and the "Nordics"), as well as diminutive beings often intent on entrapment and abduction (the "fairies" and the "grays").

    “Both feature tall, often long-haired and blue eyed attractive peoples with striking abilities and resources (the “Tuatha” and the “Nordics”) as well as diminutive beings often intent on entrapment and abduction (the “fairies” and the “grays”).”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:29109-29344 opinion first hand

  337. 337

    Bill Chalker argues for revisiting the validity of links between Tuatha de Danann legends, fairy folklore, and modern-day alien abduction lore.

    “I think this argues well for revisiting the validity of the links between the Tuatha legends, fairy folklore, and modern-day alien abduction lore.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:29354-29495 opinion first hand

  338. 338

    Bill Chalker considers George Russell's visions of aerial ships to have been of the Tuatha de Danann revealing themselves and their aerial ships to Ireland's greatest mystic of the day, and considers the points Russell makes about them surprisingly relevant to modern accounts of contact and abduction.

    “These “visions” were thought to be of the Tuatha, revealing themselves and their “aerial ships,” to Ireland’s greatest mystic of the day. The points Russell makes about them are surprisingly relevant to modern accounts of “contact” and “abduction.””

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:32295-32532 opinion first hand

  339. 339

    Bill Chalker states that Ireland, England, and Scotland are all rich in the Celtic tradition of the Otherworld, where all manner of things intrude into the ordinary world.

    “Ireland, England, and Scotland are all rich in the Celtic tradition of the “Otherworld,” where all manner of things intrude into our seemingly well-understood world.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:35011-35170 opinion first hand

  340. 340

    Bill Chalker states that many ancient sites and monuments anchored in bizarre light and apparitional phenomena have potent reputations today because they are seemingly haunted by UFO phenomena.

    “The landscape of ancient sites and monuments is often powerfully anchored in bizarre light and apparitional phenomena. Many of these locations have potent reputations today because they are seemingly haunted by UFO phenomena.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:35178-35393 opinion first hand

  341. 341

    Bill Chalker speculated about possible connections between the genetic findings from the Peter Khoury alien abduction case and three ancient cultures: Chinese, Basque, and Gaelic.

    “the nature of these genetic findings led us naturally to speculate about their possible connections with three ancient cultures: Chinese, Basque, and Gaelic.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:414-564 opinion first hand

  342. 342

    During the Sydney Writers' Festival in May 2003, Bill Chalker met Ma Jian, a literary dissident offspring of the Cultural Revolution's 'lost generation'.

    “During the Sydney Writers' Festival of May 2003, I had the opportunity to meet Ma Jian, a literary dissident offspring of the Cultural Revolution's "lost generation."”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:9636-9790 testimony first hand

  343. 343

    Ma Jian told Bill Chalker of his strange encounter with a mysterious light near the Burmese border in China's Yunnan province, in about early May 1986.

    “He told me of his strange encounter with a mysterious light near the Burmese border, again in Yunnan province, in about early May of 1986.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:9884-10017 testimony second hand

  344. 344

    Bill Chalker chooses the forensic and scientific investigation approach to alien abduction research and hopes others will support this direction.

    “I choose the latter, and I hope others will share and support this direction.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:1106-1173 opinion first hand

  345. 345

    Bill Chalker believes every contact leaves traces, some hidden and others more obvious, which can yield evidence to illuminate the alien abduction mystery.

    “I believe every contact leaves traces, some hidden, others more obvious, which can yield evidence to illuminate our way through this extraordinary mystery.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:1184-1331 opinion first hand

  346. 346

    Bill Chalker considers the Peter Khoury alien abduction case confirmation of the utility of the DNA forensic approach to alien abduction research.

    “While the Peter Khoury case confirms the utility of the DNA forensic approach, the real challenge ahead for researchers is to determine if these anomalies are both valid and significant.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:1341-1515 opinion first hand

  347. 347

    Bill Chalker believes the real challenge for alien abduction researchers is to determine whether DNA-related anomalies found in abduction cases are both valid and significant.

    “the real challenge ahead for researchers is to determine if these anomalies are both valid and significant.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:1420-1515 opinion first hand

  348. 348

    Bill Chalker believes abduction researchers should cooperate in a testing programme focused on DNA profiling.

    “To do this, abduction researchers should cooperate in a testing program focused on DNA profiling.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:1529-1616 opinion first hand

  349. 349

    Bill Chalker believes testing a significant number of legitimate samples would provide an opportunity for validation of unusual DNA anomalies found in alien abduction cases to date.

    “Testing a significant number of legitimate samples would provide an opportunity for validation of the unusual anomalies found to date.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:1627-1756 opinion first hand

  350. 350

    Bill Chalker believes additional DNA test results would add to the database of biological evidence of alleged alien specimens.

    “Additional results would add to the database of biological evidence of alleged alien specimens.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:1763-1848 opinion first hand

  351. 351

    Bill Chalker believes a strategy of expanding DNA testing could help determine whether aliens are a biological reality and whether any are visiting Earth and abducting humans.

    “Such a strategy could help us determine whether the aliens are a biological reality and if indeed any of them are visiting our planet and abducting humans.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:1859-2007 opinion first hand

  352. 352

    The DNA profiling methods used in the Peter Khoury alien hair investigation during 1998-2001 have since been overshadowed by more detailed and more complex forensic methods.

    “have been overshadowed by more detailed and more complex methods.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:203-260 opinion first hand

  353. 353

    Bill Chalker believes the alien abduction mystery strikes at the heart of the significant issue of "humans" originating from elsewhere.

    “it seems that the alien abduction mystery strikes at the very heart of a profoundly significant issue—that of “humans” from elsewhere.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:2049-2173 opinion first hand

  354. 354

    Some modern DNA testing methods are sensitive enough that even a single molecule of biological evidence is sufficient to undertake DNA tests.

    “Some are so sensitive that even a molecule of biological evidence is sufficient to undertake DNA tests.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:270-367 observation first hand

  355. 355

    Increased sensitivity in DNA testing raises contamination and error factors as major concerns.

    “However, with that sort of increased sensitivity, contamination and error factors loom as major concerns.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:374-470 opinion first hand

  356. 356

    Bill Chalker and his biochemist associates had already been searching for verifiable factors in "junk" DNA and unusual mutations or polymorphisms in DNA that might provide evidence of "non-Darwinian patterns" possibly reflective of extraterrestrial influence.

    “my biochemist associates and I had already been looking for verifiable factors in “junk DNA,” as well as unusual mutations (or polymorphisms) in our DNA, that might provide evidence of “non-Darwinian patterns” that are perhaps reflective of extraterrestrial influence.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:4442-4700 testimony first hand

  357. 357

    Considerable debate continues about factors that might affect the accuracy of standard Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR)-based DNA profiling.

    “Even with standard PCR-based DNA profiling, considerable debate continues about factors that might affect its accuracy.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:481-591 observation first hand

  358. 358

    Bill Chalker tries to take in the night sky whenever he travels to remote or different places, including the outback of Australia, the Great Wall of China, the Great Lakes of the United States, and the open moors of the Pennines in England.

    “Whenever I have the opportunity to go to remote or different places, be it the outback of Australia, the Great Wall of China, the Great Lakes of the United States, the open moors of the Pennines in England, or other localities on this “pale blue dot” 192 called Earth, I always try to take in the night sky.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:4836-5139 testimony first hand

  359. 359

    Bill Chalker has the sense, when contemplating the night sky in remote places, that our portion of the cosmos is far from unique and that humans are far from unique.

    “On these occasions I have the overwhelming sense that our little portion of the cosmos is,, far from unique, and that we as humans are far from unique as well. Life is out there.194”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:5561-5739 opinion first hand

  360. 360

    Bill Chalker and his associates used DNA profiling procedures in the Peter Khoury alien hair investigation during 1998-2001.

    “The DNA profiling procedures we utilized in the Peter Khoury “alien hair” investigation during 1998-2001, while still having considerable utility, have been overshadowed by more detailed and more complex methods.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:56-260 administrative first hand

  361. 361

    Bill Chalker believes life exists elsewhere in the universe.

    “Life is out there.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:5721-5733 opinion first hand

  362. 362

    Bill Chalker suggests it may not be surprising if some extraterrestrial life is found to be like humans in many ways, even down to DNA itself.

    “It may not be all that surprising that one day we might find that some of it is like us in so many ways, even down to the basics, DNA itself.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:5744-5878 opinion first hand

  363. 363

    Bill Chalker suggests some human-like life may already be on Earth, making very strange intrusions into the world.

    “And indeed, some of that human-like life may already be here, making very strange intrusions into our world.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:5886-5988 opinion first hand

  364. 364

    Bill Chalker believes forensic methodologies are changing rapidly, making it important to keep up to date.

    “Because forensic methodologies are changing rapidly, it is extremely important to keep up to date.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:604-697 opinion first hand

  365. 365

    Bill Chalker believes the UFO research community can either continue in the uncertainty of unverified accounts and unsubstantiated theories, or anchor strange events with forensic and scientific investigation to yield verifiable evidence on the reality of alien abductions.

    “It can continue to languish in the uncertainty of unverified accounts and unsubstantiated theories, or it can attempt to anchor these strange events with the focused attention of forensic and scientific investigations and research, in order to yield verifiable evidence on the reality of alien abductions, whatever that turns out to be.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:768-1101 opinion first hand

  366. 366

    Similar pieces of hair were excised from control hair samples obtained from Peter Khoury and his wife in the presence of Bill Chalker.

    “Similar pieces were excised also from both control hair samples, as obtained from the young man and his wife, in the presence of the investigator B. Chalker.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch22:5439-5588 administrative second hand

  367. 367

    The rest of Kary Mullis's alien encounter story came out in Bill Chalker's interview with him on 1999-04-04.

    “The rest of his story came out in my interview with him on April 4,1999.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:10663-10730 administrative first hand

  368. 368

    Two other members of UFO Research New South Wales, Frank Sinclair and Coralee Vickery, undertook an earlier preliminary interview with Peter Khoury on 1992-03-07.

    “Two other members of UFO Research (NSW)—Frank Sinclair and Coralee Vickery—undertook an earlier preliminary interview with Peter Khoury on March 7 1992.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:10869-11016 administrative first hand

  369. 369

    Frank Sinclair told Bill Chalker that the March 1992 interview with Peter Khoury was Sinclair's first significant interview and that it was very tentative.

    “It was a very tentative interview and Frank Sinclair advised me that it was his first significant interview.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:11022-11120 testimony second hand

  370. 370

    Frank Sinclair provided Bill Chalker with a copy of the tape of the March 1992 interview with Peter Khoury during 2003.

    “Frank Sinclair kindly made a copy of the tape available to me during 2003.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:11246-11315 administrative first hand

  371. 371

    The March 1992 interview tape confirms that the details described by Peter Khoury are consistent with his later recollections about the UFO sighting and the 1988 abduction episode.

    “It confirms that the details described are consistent with Peter Khoury's later recollections about the UFO sighting and the 1988 abduction episode.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:11321-11461 observation first hand

  372. 372

    There was some confusion in the March 1992 interview about whether the date of Peter Khoury's needle-probe abduction episode was 1988 or 1989, but the interview did not examine this aspect.

    “There was some confusion about the date of the abduction episode, whether it was 1988 or 1989, but the interview process did not extend to an examination of this aspect.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:11470-11632 observation first hand

  373. 373

    Bill Chalker concludes from all available information that Peter Khoury's experience with the needle probe occurred in 1988.

    “It is clear from all the information we have from diverse sources that Peter's experience with the needle probe occurred in 1988.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:11640-11764 opinion first hand

  374. 374

    The young Queenslander's 1991 creature encounter and hair sample was reported in a second DNA-analysis phase as a "putative yowie sample," and was used as a secondary control sample.

    “This is the sample reported in the second phase of DNA work re the Khoury hair sample as a "putative yowie sample," which was utilised as a secondary "control" sample.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:11925-12085 administrative first hand

  375. 375

    Kary Mullis did not carry out the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) DNA testing of Peter Khoury's alien hair samples described in Bill Chalker's book.

    “It needs to be made clear that Kary Mullis did not carry out the PCR DNA testing of the Khoury hair samples detailed in this book.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:1302-1427 administrative first hand

  376. 376

    Bill Chalker made Kary Mullis aware of the DNA testing work on Peter Khoury's hair samples during an interview about Mullis's own alien abduction story.

    “I made him aware of this work when I interviewed him about his "alien abduction" story.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:1433-1514 testimony first hand

  377. 377

    Many readers saw the Wandjina rising from the ground in a large display during the opening ceremony of the Sydney Olympic Games in 2000.

    “Many readers would have seen the Wandjina rising from the ground in an enormous and spectacular display in the opening ceremony of the Sydney Olympic Games in 2000.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:15000-15159 observation first hand

  378. 378

    A hair sample is the central focus of the DNA story in Bill Chalker's book Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions.

    “While a hair sample is the focus of this book's DNA story”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:152-204 administrative first hand

  379. 379

    In Whitley Strieber's book Transformation (1988), pages 121-122, Strieber quotes a woman but leaves out any reference to hair she reportedly observed on the beings.

    “See Whitley Strieber's Transformation (1988), pp. 121-122. Strieber in quoting the woman leaves out any reference to the hair she observed.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:15342-15472 observation first hand

  380. 380

    Whitley Strieber does not link the account in Breakthrough to the reference in his previous book Transformation, nor does he highlight that he had kept the presence of hair out of his own original "visitor" descriptions.

    “Strieber doesn't link the account here to the reference in his previous book, nor does he highlight that he had kept the presence of hair out of his own original "visitor" descriptions.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:15844-16016 observation first hand

  381. 381

    Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber's book The Communion Letters (1997), pages 53-55, contains the woman's letter in a chapter entitled "Alien Abduction as It Really Is," described as "the most vivid description of the visitors in all our records," yet Strieber did not reveal in that book that his own original "visitors" featured hair.

    “See The Communion Letters by Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber, (1997), pp. 53-55. Even though Strieber has the woman's letter in the chapter entitled "Alien Abduction as It Really Is" and that it is "the most vivid description of the visitors in all our records" he did not reveal that his own original "visitors" featured hair.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:16035-16360 observation first hand

  382. 382

    Bill Chalker considers that the abductee "Deborah" described in David Jacobs's The Threat (1998), who experiences a strange job interview and lifelong interactions with an alien sadist, may be the same person as "Sally".

    “The abductee “Deborah” in David Jacob’s book The Threat (1998) pp. 186, 198-202, may also be “Sally.” She experiences a strange “job interview” and has lifelong interactions with an “alien sadist.””

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:20659-20848 opinion first hand

  383. 383

    Bill Chalker considers that the picture of Lucy/Sally painted by Jim Schnabel does not match the individual Budd Hopkins described to him.

    “The picture Schnabel paints of “Lucy” (aka “Sally”) does not sit well with the individual Budd Hopkins described to me.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:20857-20973 opinion first hand

  384. 384

    Budd Hopkins told Bill Chalker that he felt the subject (Stewart) frightened Jim Schnabel at times, causing Schnabel to turn on the subject and debunk it.

    “Hopkins told me that he felt the subject frightened Schnabel at times, with the end result being that Schnabel turned on it, debunking the whole subject.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:20977-21122 testimony second hand

  385. 385

    Bill Chalker considers that both the reported communication problems with the Mariner 4 spacecraft flyby of Mars and the July 15, 1965 Canberra airport UFO sighting were probably spurious, with a strong astronomical explanation for the sighting.

    “Both the reported problems with communications with Mariner and the UFO sighting were probably spurious. The evidence for an astronomical explanation was strong.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:22492-22646 opinion first hand

  386. 386

    Vicki Klein had another child, a daughter, in addition to her sons.

    “Vicki had another child, a daughter.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:23705-23732 administrative first hand

  387. 387

    Fires severely damaged Canberra suburbs on January 18, 2003, including severe damage to the historic Mt. Stromlo Observatory.

    “Terrible fires did decimate suburbs of Canberra on January 18, 2003, even severely damaging the historic Mt. Stromlo observatory”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:23747-23864 observation first hand

  388. 388

    The Mt. Stromlo Observatory was the site of a UFO sighting by an astronomer in 1957.

    “even severely damaging the historic Mt. Stromlo observatory, site of a 1957 astronomer UFO sighting.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:23816-23907 observation first hand

  389. 389

    Skip Atwater was the operations officer for the United States Army's Intelligence and Security Command remote viewing project Stargate from 1978 to 1987.

    “Skip Atwater, who was the operations officer for the U.S. Army’s Intelligence and Security Command remote viewing project STARGATE from 1978 to 1987”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:30327-30471 administrative first hand

  390. 390

    In 1973, Pat Price, one of the leading psychics in the Stanford Research Institute's remote viewing programme, gave Hal Puthoff an unsolicited package containing his remote-viewing notes describing four alleged "UFO bases" on Earth.

    “In 1973 Pat Price, one of the “stars” of the Stanford Research Institute’s (SRI) genesis RV program, gave an unsolicited package to Hal Puthoff, one of the key scientists running the SRI project. It contained Price’s remote viewing notes of four “UFO bases” on Earth.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:30560-30821 testimony first hand

  391. 391

    Hal Puthoff was uncertain what to make of Pat Price's remote-viewing notes but was confident of Price's remarkable psychic skills.

    “Puthoff didn’t know what to think, but he was sure of Price’s remarkable psychic skills.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:30828-30909 opinion first hand

  392. 392

    One of the alleged UFO bases identified by Pat Price was located just west of the secret United States spy base at Pine Gap in central Australia.

    “One of the bases was alleged to be located just to the west of the secret U.S. spy base in central Australia—Pine Gap.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:31044-31158 testimony first hand

  393. 393

    Hal Puthoff contacted the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) station chief of Pine Gap, whom he knew, to ask if anything unusual was going on in the area.

    “Because he knew the then CIA station chief of Pine Gap, Puthoff contacted him, asking if anything unusual was going on in the area.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:31163-31289 testimony first hand

  394. 394

    The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) station chief at Pine Gap told Hal Puthoff there wasn't much going on beyond routine intelligence gathering, except for reported UFO activity around Mt. Zeil, about 140 kilometres to the west.

    “His friend said there wasn’t much going on beyond the routine of intelligence gathering, except for maybe the UFO activity that was being reported around Mt. Zeil, which was about 140 kilometres to the west.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:31295-31497 hearsay third hand

  395. 395

    Hal Puthoff was intrigued that Pat Price's remote-viewing location for the alleged Australian alien base was Mt. Zeil.

    “Puthoff was intrigued, as Price’s RV location of the alleged Australian “alien base” was Mt. Zeil!”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:31503-31596 opinion first hand

  396. 396

    By the early 1980s, Pat Price's remote-viewing notes had reached army officer Skip Atwater, who used Price's targets in a blind controlled fashion while training and assessing army remote viewers.

    “By the early 1980s these notes made their way into the hands of army officer Atwater. Charged with the responsibility of training and assessing the army remote viewers he utilized Price’s “targets” in a blind controlled fashion.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:31602-31822 testimony first hand

  397. 397

    Skip Atwater's own army remote viewers, working blind, supplied information suggesting hidden underground facilities with an alien or extraterrestrial connection at the same four localities Pat Price had identified a decade earlier.

    “He was struck when his own army remote viewers supplied him with information that suggested there were hidden underground facilities with some sort of alien or extraterrestrial connection at the four localities Price had viewed a decade earlier.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:31831-32068 testimony first hand

  398. 398

    The four alleged alien bases identified by Pat Price's remote viewing were located at Mt. Zeil in Australia, Mt. Hayes in Alaska, Mt. Perdido in the Spanish Pyrenees, and Mt. Inyangani in Zimbabwe.

    “Apart from Mt. Zeil in Australia, the other three “alien bases” were located at Mt. Hayes in Alaska, Mt. Perdido in the Spanish Pyrenees, and Mt. Inyangani in Zimbabwe!”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:32077-32236 testimony first hand

  399. 399

    Bill Chalker considers the extraterrestrial dimensions of remote viewing to be big on controversial detail and short on credible evidence.

    “The “ET” dimensions of remote viewing are big on controversial detail and short on credible evidence.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:32952-33044 opinion first hand

  400. 400

    Bill Chalker states that eating human brain tissue, as referenced regarding Credo Mutwa's alien flesh ingestion episode, is hardly a practice he would recommend.

    “Hardly a practice I would recommend.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:33059-33085 opinion first hand

  401. 401

    Bill Chalker has personally observed the mechanism of cross-cultural filtering of alien-contact narratives at work in other people, including Australian aboriginal storyteller Lorraine Maffi Williams.

    “I have seen this mechanism at work in other people, such as Australian aboriginal “abductee” Lorraine Maffi Williams.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:33610-33718 observation first hand

  402. 402

    Lorraine Maffi Williams told Bill Chalker that Aboriginal Australians' attitude toward the heavens governs them similarly to how Christians believe in one God with many saints, except the Aboriginal "saints" are planetary beings referred to in Western terms as extraterrestrials or aliens.

    ““Our attitude to what goes on up in the heavens is what rules us Aboriginals. Its similar to religion, whereby Christians believe in a religious world ruled by one God, but many “Saints, ” we believe the same only the many “saints” to us are planetary ones whom you in the the Western world refer to as ET or aliens.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:33974-34282 testimony second hand

  403. 403

    Lorraine Maffi Williams passed away recently, as of Bill Chalker's writing.

    “Lorraine passed away recently.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:36117-36138 administrative first hand

  404. 404

    Bill Chalker had read Christopher Evans's book Cults of Unreason (1973) years before writing about the Gundiah case.

    “Years before I had read Christopher Evans book Cults of Unreason (1973).”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:46214-46280 administrative first hand

  405. 405

    Bill Chalker conducted a personal interview with Ma Jian, via an interpreter, in May 2003.

    “Personal interview with Ma Jian, via an interpreter, May 2003.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:51648-51705 administrative first hand

  406. 406

    Michael Everson's alleged claims about Basque-alien interbreeding, as recounted through C. L. Turnage, resonate with but are unverified relative to Bill Chalker's own comments on "the Basque Legacy".

    “This is a rather resonating but unverified connection to my own comments on “the Basque Legacy.””

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:53711-53799 opinion first hand

  407. 407

    Bill Chalker considers Desmond Leslie's description of the Tuatha de Danaan a bit creative, noting the wider Tuatha literature more broadly embraces hair colour ranging from red to fair to blond, and eye colour from blue to green.

    “Leslie was a bit creative with his Tuatha descriptions but red to fair to blond hair, and from blue to green eyed, has been embraced in the Tuatha literature.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:57649-57796 opinion first hand

  408. 408

    Bill Chalker considers there to be more differences between fairy lore accounts and alien abduction accounts than similarities.

    “It is fair to say that there are more differences between fairy lore accounts and alien abduction accounts than there are similarities.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:57858-57980 opinion first hand

  409. 409

    Bill Chalker considers the detail of two "ships" or aerial craft coming together and blending into one, as seen in Michael Harner's ayahuasca vision, to be bizarrely echoed in Dr. X's 1968 French UFO encounter.

    “This detail of two “ships” or aerial craft coming together and blending into one was bizarrely played out in the extraordinary UFO encounter of Dr. X in France during 1968.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:60578-60745 opinion first hand

  410. 410

    Bill Chalker, as a chemist, reflects on the visionary dreams of chemists Kekule and Mendeleyev that led to the elaboration of the structure of benzene and the periodic table of elements respectively, before dismissing shamanic chemical "knowledge" claims.

    “Before automatically dismissing such things, as a chemist myself, I often reflect on chemists Kekule and Mendeleyev’s visionary dreams that led to the elaboration of the structure of benzene and the periodic table of elements respectively.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:64760-64986 opinion first hand

  411. 411

    As of the writing of Bill Chalker's book, Phenomena Research Australia (PRA) had not yet published its own account of the Kelly Cahill case in the broader public UFO literature, despite a decade having passed.

    “Phenomena Research Australia (PRA) have yet to publish their account in the broader public UFO literature despite the passage of a decade!”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:6550-6681 observation first hand

  412. 412

    Bill Chalker considers it certain that Peter Khoury had no knowledge, back in 1992, of the forensic Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) contamination techniques only now being discussed in the field of forensics.

    “Before someone suggests it, the chances of Peter Khoury having this sort of knowledge, only now being discussed and debated in the field of forensics, were certainly nil back in 1992 and pretty much the same even now.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:68034-68247 opinion first hand

  413. 413

    Bill Chalker considers it very difficult, though not impossible, to fabricate a Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) "brew" that would contain the same rare genetic substitutions found in the Peter Khoury alien hair sample, given the rarity of the DNA profile and its unusual attributes near the root and at the shaft of the hair.

    “The dilemma now would be how anyone could fabricate a PCR “brew” in a similar way that would contain the same rare genetic substitutions. Impossible? No, but very difficult, given the rarity of the DNA profile and its unusual attributes near the root and at the shaft of the hair.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:68252-68527 opinion first hand

  414. 414

    Bill Chalker considers it only a matter of time before someone attempts to hoax alien hair DNA evidence, given the propensity for hoaxing in the field, and believes analysts and researchers need to rigorously verify context and chains of evidence.

    “Sadly, given the propensity for hoaxing in this field it is only a matter of time before someone tries it. Thus analysts and researchers working in this area need to rigorously verify context and chains of evidence in such events.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:68533-68756 opinion first hand

  415. 415

    An anonymous critic whose email name and credentials Bill Chalker's team could not confirm claimed there were many errors in the "Strange Evidence" article but never supplied a full list, and the errors he did elaborate on turned out to be trivial, misguided, or inappropriate.

    “The only really critical response was drawn from someone whose e-mail name and credentials we were not able to confirm. He launched into a long convoluted run of e-mails claiming there were many errors in the article. We asked him to elaborate. Although he never supplied the full list of “errors,” those he did elaborate on turned out to be trivial, misguided, or inappropriate.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:71108-71473 hearsay second hand

  416. 416

    Bill Chalker considers Dwight Connelly's description of Phenomena Research Australia as one of the most respected groups in the world very difficult to fathom, given the lack of detailed PRA disclosure and Connelly's limited experience with the group.

    “Despite the lack of detailed PRA disclosure and his limited experience with them Connelly describes the PRA group as one of the most respected in the world, a claim I and many other researchers find very difficult to fathom.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:7147-7364 opinion first hand

  417. 417

    The critic's "Chinese man of mystery" was a lab worker and postgraduate biochemistry student who was part of Bill Chalker's analytical team, and his DNA was tested and found to be normal Chinese DNA with no rare or unusual aspects.

    “The critic’s “Chinese man of mystery” was no real mystery. He was a lab worker—a postgraduate in biochemistry—who had been part of our analytical team. Even though we believed that he had not come into direct contact with the hair sample, given that he was in the lab where we had stored the sample for a while, we felt we needed to rule his DNA in or out as the possible source of the unusual DNA found. It turned out his DNA was as expected, normal Chinese DNA with no rare or unusual aspects.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:72131-72618 testimony first hand

  418. 418

    The Chinese biochemical analyst blood control sample donor had never met Peter Khoury or Vivian Khoury and had never been to their home.

    “He had never met Peter or Vivian Khoury and had never been to their home.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:72627-72695 testimony first hand

  419. 419

    Bill Chalker states that more rational reviews have confirmed that the research on the Peter Khoury alien hair sample is reasonable and worth serious consideration.

    “More rational reviews have confirmed that the research is reasonable and worth serious consideration.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:72820-72907 opinion first hand

  420. 420

    Bill Chalker considers the "yowie" identification of the hair sample inappropriate, based on a closer examination of the young witness's description.

    “A closer examination of the young witness’ description makes the Yowie identification inappropriate.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:74323-74409 opinion first hand

  421. 421

    Bill Chalker considers it possible that UFOs and alien abductions will one day no longer be regarded as a fringe or "forbidden science."

    “Maybe one day UFOs and alien abductions will no longer be a fringe or "forbidden science."”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:8635-8716 opinion first hand

  422. 422

    The Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG) has a postal address at P.O. Box 42, West Pennant Hills, New South Wales, 2125, Australia.

    “Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG), P.O. Box 42, West Pennant Hills, NSW, 2125, Australia.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:8731-8815 administrative first hand

  423. 423

    Bill Chalker's postal address was P.O. Box 42, West Pennant Hills, New South Wales, 2125, Australia.

    “P.O. Box 42, West Pennant Hills, NSW, 2125, Australia”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:8771-8815 administrative first hand

  424. 424

    Kary Mullis invited Bill Chalker to relax with a beer and watch the boats go by in California.

    “Thanks for the invitation to relax with a beer and “watch the boats go by” some day in California”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch24:1864-1951 testimony first hand

  425. 425

    Bill Chalker expressed a wish to hear from Keith Rylance, Amy Rylance, and Petra Heller to understand what happened during the Gundiah case and the journeys to and from Mackay.

    “By way of estranged thanks, I also would love to hear from Keith, Amy, and Petra to understand what really happened on that dark and stormy night in Gundiah and on the journeys to and from Mackay.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch24:3591-3780 opinion first hand

  426. 426

    Readers who believe they have legitimate biological evidence of a UFO abduction experience are encouraged to contact the Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG) through Bill Chalker.

    “If you believe you have legitimate biological evidence of a UFO abduction experience, you are encouraged to contact the Anomaly Physical Evidence Group through Bill Chalker.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch27:27-192 administrative first hand

  427. 427

    The Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG) was formed to focus attention on biological strategies in alien abduction investigations.

    “The APEG was formed to focus attention on biological strategies in abduction investigations.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch27:351-428 administrative first hand

  428. 428

    Preliminary funding has enabled the Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG) to maintain a small laboratory presence for its research.

    “Preliminary funding has enabled a small laboratory presence addressing this exciting area of research.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch27:444-537 administrative first hand

  429. 429

    The small bald gray alien is a widely recognised icon representing society's image of an alien life-form.

    “There is no doubt that the small bald gray alien is a powerful icon that represents our society's image of an alien life-form.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:1488-1609 opinion first hand

  430. 430

    Bill Chalker considers the dominant bald gray alien image to be largely an artifact of popularisation driven by researchers, the media, and in particular one prominent abductee.

    “the dominant image of the bald gray alien is to a great measure an artifact of the popularization of the "gray" through the efforts of some key researchers, the media, and in particular one prominent abductee”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:1707-1907 opinion first hand

  431. 431

    According to Whitley Strieber, only one case among the many worldwide alien encounter accounts strikingly matched his own experience in sharing the detail of hair, and that case was from Australia.

    “According to Whitley Strieber, only one case emerged in this human tide of encounters with aliens that strikingly matched his own experiences with aliens, sharing the key element of the presence of hair. That case turned out to be from Australia.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:3024-3260 testimony second hand

  432. 432

    Peter Khoury's alien abduction case includes the recovery of found "alien hair" that was subjected to DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) testing.

    “the suppressed aspect emerges as the central piece of evidence from Peter Khoury's encounter, namely the found "alien hair" that was subjected to DNA testing.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:3585-3731 administrative first hand

  433. 433

    Peter Khoury's alien abduction case features a fragment of hair recovered as physical evidence.

    “a fragment of strange hair to be exact, which in a remarkable but paradoxical way confirmed the truly controversial and provocative nature of the episode that led to its recovery”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:413-583 observation first hand

  434. 434

    The hair sample from the Peter Khoury alien abduction case became the focus of the world's first DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) investigation of biological evidence implicated in an alien abduction.

    “This hair sample became the focus of the world's first DNA investigation of biological evidence implicated in an alien abduction.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:594-713 administrative first hand

  435. 435

    Kary Mullis is the only Nobel Prize laureate to admit to a possible alien abduction experience.

    “Mullis has a further unique claim to fame. He is the only Nobel Prize laureate to admit to a possible alien abduction experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:8454-8572 administrative first hand

  436. 436

    Kary Mullis's bizarre alien abduction experience is based on his own descriptions and on his discussion with Bill Chalker.

    “His bizarre experience, described in this book, is based on his descriptions and my discussion with him.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:8584-8684 administrative first hand

  437. 437

    Bill Chalker considers the application of Edmond Locard's "every contact leaves a trace" principle to be of critical significance in the controversial area of alien abductions.

    “While Locard clearly had in mind crime committed by human felons, the application of the principle in the very controversial area of "alien abductions" is of critical significance.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:8902-9069 opinion first hand

  438. 438

    Bill Chalker, with the help of biochemists, carried out a forensic investigation of the Peter Khoury alien abduction case using DNA (deoxyribonucleic acid) profiling combined with an archaeological-style DNA investigation.

    “With the help of biochemists, I have carried out a thorough forensic investigation of this case, utilizing DNA profiling, coupled with an archaeological-style DNA investigation.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:918-1081 testimony first hand

  439. 439

    Bill Chalker considers John O'Neill's vague sleep-paralysis description to fall far short of the detailed and ordered description Peter Khoury gives of his own experience.

    “That vague description falls far short of the detailed and ordered description Peter Khoury offers of his experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch8:17866-17972 opinion first hand

  440. 440

    Bill Chalker considers that Peter Khoury was not asleep nor in the hypnagogic state during his encounter, and that his experience had an ordered, consciously recollected sequence unlike vague sensory fragments of fractured sleep.

    “First of all, he was not asleep, nor had he reached the state that precedes sleep, the hypnagogic state, that often yields fleeting imagery of a hallucinatory nature. Furthermore, his experience has an ordered sequence of events that were recollected consciously.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch8:18068-18319 opinion first hand

  441. 441

    Bill Chalker considers that the physical marks on Peter Khoury, including the head injury from the needle and the biopsy-like mark on his leg, cannot be accounted for as a classic sleep paralysis episode or hypnagogic imagery.

    “Then there are the physical marks, namely the injury to his head... along with the biopsy-like mark on his leg, which certainly can’t be accounted for as a classic sleep paralysis episode or as a product of the sleep/awake interface that spawns hypnagogic imagery.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch8:18394-18697 opinion first hand

  442. 442

    Bill Chalker considers the Harvard research on false memory in alien abduction reports interesting but severely limited.

    “This research is interesting but has some severe limitations.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch8:21228-21277 opinion first hand

  443. 443

    Bill Chalker considers the profile of the "recovered memory" group in Susan Clancy and Richard McNally's study flawed.

    “Even more critically, the profile of the "recovered memory" group is flawed.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch8:21371-21440 opinion first hand

  444. 444

    Bill Chalker states that a significant number of people reporting alien abductions do not rely on hypnosis and other therapeutic techniques, and their memories are based on clearly recollected incidents for which they have no memory loss or delayed recall.

    “In fact, there are a significant number of people reporting abductions who do not rely on hypnosis and other therapeutic techniques. Their memories are based on clearly recollected incidents for which they have no memory loss or delayed recall.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch8:21837-22074 opinion first hand

  445. 445

    Bill Chalker considers it important to concentrate on a broad forensic approach to alien abduction experiences, with physical evidence at the heart of these investigations wherever possible.

    “Such uncertainties make it all the more important to concentrate on a broad forensic approach to abduction experiences, but physical evidence, wherever possible, needs to be at the heart of these investigations.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch8:22697-22893 opinion first hand

  446. 446

    Peter Khoury did not reveal his landmark 1992 experience to Bill Chalker until four years after they first met, with the story emerging on 1996-07-13.

    “In fact, he did not reveal to me his , landmark 1992 experience until four years later. The story slipped out in my presence on July 13,1996”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:1102-1238 administrative first hand

  447. 447

    Peter Khoury's story emerged on 1996-07-13 while Bill Chalker was meeting with independent film producers interested in his UFO research and Peter Khoury's experiences.

    “At the time, we were meeting with some independent film producers who were interested in my UFO research and Peter’s own experiences. Peter was opening up more than usual.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:1320-1485 administrative first hand

  448. 448

    Bill Chalker recorded in his journal that Peter Khoury described a sexual experience at home about two to three years earlier in which he was forced onto a strange female being's breast, resisted, then was pushed against the breast with strong force.

    “Peter described a highly personal experience he had at home about two to three years ago—sexual—being forced onto a strange female being—onto its breast. He resisted; then a very strong force pushed him against the breast”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:1646-1861 testimony second hand

  449. 449

    Peter Khoury bit a nipple during the encounter and felt something like a piece of rubber caught in his throat for days afterward.

    “he bit a nipple—felt something like a piece of rubber caught in his throat for days”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:1868-1947 testimony second hand

  450. 450

    Bill Chalker initially got the impression that Peter Khoury's sense of transparent viewing lasted the whole 23 July 1992 bedroom encounter until he started coughing, but Peter Khoury corrected him, saying the transparency effect was very short-lived, lasting only from when he awoke until he rose from the bed, after which his viewpoint returned to normal while facing the blond woman straddled across his upper legs.

    “I got the impression that this sense of transparent viewing lasted the whole experience until Peter started coughing. But Peter said this was not correct, that the duration of the transparency effect was very short-lived, only lasting from when he awoke until he rose from the bed. When he was upright, facing the blond woman straddled across his upper legs, his viewpoint returned to normal.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:19482-19868 testimony second hand

  451. 451

    Peter Khoury discovered very fine wispy hair under his foreskin after the encounter and kept one small strand in a small plastic bag.

    “he discovered some very fine wispy hair under his foreskin—he still has one small strand, which he keeps in a small plastic bag.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:1952-2076 testimony second hand

  452. 452

    Peter Khoury showed the hair strand he kept in a plastic bag to two media people and Bill Chalker on 1996-07-13.

    “He showed this to the two media people and me.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:2081-2124 observation first hand

  453. 453

    Bill Chalker first heard of Peter Khoury in 1991.

    “I first heard of Peter Khoury in 1991, and in the years that followed, he revealed his story to me, but only gradually, in fragments here and there.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:249-391 administrative first hand

  454. 454

    Bill Chalker observed that the progression of events in the 23 July 1992 bedroom encounter suggests a discontinuity, beginning with the sheets over Peter Khoury's lower body and ending with them underneath him, with no memory of how this occurred.

    “While this might suggest some sort of discontinuity in the progression of events—it began with the sheets over his lower body, and ends with them under him, with no awareness of how this took place—Peter has no memory of anything else happening.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:26631-26866 opinion first hand

  455. 455

    Bill Chalker first interviewed Peter Khoury at length on 1993-11-01.

    “I first interviewed him at length on November 1, 1993.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:398-447 administrative first hand

  456. 456

    Peter Khoury told Bill Chalker about his 1988 abduction experience in Sydney.

    “He told me about his 1988 abduction experience in Sydney, the rooftop experience during his childhood in Lebanon, and a UFO sighting he had witnessed with his fiancee, Vivian, in February of 1988.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:454-645 testimony second hand

  457. 457

    Peter Khoury told Bill Chalker about a rooftop experience during his childhood in Lebanon.

    “He told me about his 1988 abduction experience in Sydney, the rooftop experience during his childhood in Lebanon, and a UFO sighting he had witnessed with his fiancee, Vivian, in February of 1988.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:454-645 testimony second hand

  458. 458

    Peter Khoury witnessed a UFO sighting with his fiancee Vivian Khoury in February 1988 near the Cooks River, in Hurlstone Park, a suburb of Sydney.

    “a UFO sighting he had witnessed with his fiancee, Vivian, in February of 1988. This latter event took place near the Cooks River, in Hurlstone Park, a suburb of Sydney.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:572-733 testimony second hand

  459. 459

    Vivian Khoury and Peter Khoury watched a strange light jump around erratically in the sky for about twenty minutes during the February 1988 Cooks River UFO sighting.

    “For about twenty minutes, Vivian and Peter had watched a strange light jump around erratically in the sky. There would be a flash, or a shot of a light beam, and then the light would suddenly be in a new location.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:742-946 observation second hand

  460. 460

    Bill Chalker has investigated alien abduction claims since the 1970s.

    “I am no stranger to extraordinary claims in the bizarre world of alien abduction stories, having quietly investigated abduction claims since the seventies.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:90-235 administrative first hand

  461. 461

    Vivian Khoury described the February 1988 Cooks River UFO sighting as "a war with stars."

    “Vivian called it “a war with stars.””

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch9:984-1013 testimony second hand

  462. 462

    Researcher Bill Chalker interviewed former student Victor Zakry, who claimed to have seen the Westall object at ground level, close enough to touch it.

    “Researcher Bill Chalker also interviewed former student Victor Zakry, who claimed to have seen the object at ground level, close enough to touch it.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:18264-18409 testimony second hand

  463. 463

    Bill Chalker has speculated that the 1973 North West Cape sighting may be referred to in a heavily redacted US National Security Agency document, released in a 1980 court action taken by Citizens Against UFO Secrecy.

    “but Bill Chalker has speculated it may be a sighting referred to in a heavily redacted US National Security Agency (NSA) document, previously highly protected with one of the highest top-secret-umbra security classifications, which was released in court action taken in 1980 by the US group Citizens Against Unidentified Flying Objects Secrecy.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:12579-12915 opinion second hand

  464. 464

    Harry Turner had the approval of Australia's Chief Defence Scientist for his proposed rapid intervention team to investigate UFO events.

    “says Turner had the approval of Australia's Chief Defence Scientist for this idea, so this was no idle flight of fancy on Turner's part.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:3512-3643 testimony second hand

  465. 465

    Bill Chalker considers that Harry Turner was actually arguing for the air force to be given more resources and help to investigate UFOs so their reports would be more scientific, but that the Directorate of Air Force Intelligence (DAFI) took it as criticism and shut him out out of sheer bloody-mindedness.

    “Bill Chalker told me, 'Harry was actually arguing for the air force to be given more resources and more help to investigate UFOs. That way their reports would be a lot more scientific. They took that as a criticism. It was sheer bloody mindedness by DAFI to shut him out.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:4102-4369 opinion first hand

  466. 466

    Bill Chalker, an Australian scientist and UAP researcher trained in mathematics and chemistry, was the first civilian researcher to gain access to the Royal Australian Air Force's UAP files in the early 1980s.

    “Bill Chalker, an Australian scientist and UAP researcher trained in mathematics and chemistry, was the first civilian researcher to gain access to the Royal Australian Air Force’s UAP files in the early 1980s.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch9:11178-11381 administrative

  467. 467

    Bill Chalker befriended Harry Turner late in Turner's life.

    “He befriended Harry Turner late in his life”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch9:11388-11427 administrative

  468. 468

    Bill Chalker considers that political myopia from both the US and Australian military effectively scuttled Australia's first serious flirtation with scientific investigation of UFOs.

    “says of Turner’s efforts, ‘Political myopia from both the US and Australian military effectively scuttled Australia’s first serious flirtation with scientific investigation of UFOs’.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch9:11436-11612 opinion second hand

  469. 469

    Bill Chalker interviewed Peter Khoury's family, including his brother Sam Khoury and their father, while researching a book about Peter Khoury's experiences.

    “there's something interesting that happened when, when Bill Chalker was researching the book, he went and spoke to my family... he was speaking to my brother, my oldest brother, Sam, and him and my dad were present.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 00:29:48.8-00:30:00.5 administrative first hand

  470. 470

    Peter Khoury said he had not known about his brother Sam Khoury's account of witnessing his 1988 levitation until Sam Khoury told Bill Chalker about it, since Sam Khoury had never told him about it directly.

    “I didn't know about that. He didn't tell me. He's telling Bill this and I'm listening to this”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 00:30:51.5-00:30:55.4 testimony first hand

  471. 471

    Bill Chalker recorded audio and took notes during his interview with Peter Khoury's family, but no video was recorded of the session.

    “we, Bill recorded an audio and took notes, but we didn't get a video of it”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 00:31:41.0-00:31:45.4 administrative first hand

  472. 472

    During his flight, Bill Chalker advised Peter Khoury to get up and walk through the aisle or sit in the fold-down seats near the flight attendants to take a break.

    “Bill Chalker said to me, advised me, mate, just get up. Walked through the aisle, he goes, there's those little seats you can pull down where the air host is and that. He goes, you can sit in that just to have a break.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:25:36.5-01:25:46.6 testimony first hand

  473. 473

    Bill Chalker considered it a bit coincidental that liquid bandage products came onto the market within six months of scientists' comments about Peter Khoury's rapidly-healing wound.

    “Bill thought Bill Chalk at the time thought that was a bit... coincidental?”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:34:44.0-01:34:46.4 opinion second hand

  474. 474

    Bill Chalker works alone on UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) research and works for the Invisible College.

    “That's why Bill Chalker works alone. He works for the Invisible College, but that's why they call it the invisible because...”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:36:26.4-01:36:32.3 administrative

  475. 475

    Bill Chalker was present when Peter Khoury confronted the Skeptics Association (Australia) at the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney, New South Wales, Australia.

    “Look, I took on, Bill was present at the time. Um, it was at the powerhouse museum.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:38:13.8-01:38:18.3 testimony first hand

  476. 476

    Bill Chalker asked Peter Khoury why he had not told him about the 1992 hair and DNA evidence encounter.

    “I remember people, Bill Chalker in particular, saying to me, Why the fuck have you not talked to me about this?”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:59:35.5-01:59:42.6 testimony first hand

  477. 477

    Bill Chalker became very interested when he learned of Peter Khoury's sealed evidence bag and asked why Peter Khoury had not told him about it.

    “Bill, his ears pricked up, and he was like, why haven't you told me about this?”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 02:02:28.2-02:02:32.6 testimony first hand

  478. 478

    When Bill Chalker spoke to Whitley Strieber about Peter Khoury's case, Whitley Strieber said that Peter Khoury and another lady from Australia are the only cases where the alien beings encountered were reported to have hair.

    “when Bill Chalker spoke to him about my case, Whitley actually said to him, he said, Peter and another lady from Australia are the only cases where they've mentioned aliens have hair.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 02:03:20.8-02:03:32.1 hearsay second hand

  479. 479

    Horace Drew has worked with Bill Chalker.

    “He's worked with Bill Chalker, who wrote the book, Hair of the Alien.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:21:59.7-00:22:02.7 administrative first hand

  480. 480

    Bill Chalker is a respected UFO researcher in Australia.

    “Bill Chalker, who's like a respected UFO researcher in Australia.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:22:03.3-00:22:06.6 administrative first hand

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