Brief
Billy Meier
The claims the writer was given for Billy Meier, in the order they were given.
1
Michael Malin had once been part of a project to analyse the purported UFO photographs of contactee Billy Meier.
“Malin, among other interesting affiliations, had once been part of a project to analyze the purported UFO photographs of infamous “contactee” Billy Meier.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:17405-17553 administrative first hand
2
Michael Malin, then an associate professor at Arizona State University, concluded that Billy Meier's controversial photographs were not fakes.
“In that capacity, Malin, then an associate professor at Arizona State University, had concluded that Meier’s controversial photographs were not fakes.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:17560-17704 opinion first hand
3
Michael Malin considers Billy Meier's photographs credible, describing them as good photographs.
““I find the photographs themselves credible, they’re good photographs,” he commented at the time.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:17713-17804 opinion first hand
4
The Billy Meier photo investigation was organised by UFO investigator Wendelle Stevens, a retired Lieutenant Colonel of the United States Air Force.
“The Meier photo investigation had been organized by well-known UFO investigator Wendelle Stevens (Lt. Col., USAF, ret.) and also focused on similar prime cases.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:17813-17967 administrative first hand
5
All scientists selected for the Meier photo testing signed non-disclosure agreements.
“All selected scientists signed non-disclosure agreements (which later came back to haunt Stevens and Dilettoso when cynical “skeptics” contacted some of these people to verify their participation, and the scientists predictably denied they’d taken part).”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:19239-19488 administrative first hand
6
Jim Dilettoso visited Bob Nathan at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) to have him analyse four purportedly legitimate Billy Meier photographs and two control pictures.
“Dilettoso had already visited Bob Nathan ... at JPL a few times to have him analyze four “legitimate” Meier photos and two “control pictures,” and it was Nathan that steered him to Malin.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:20078-20308 observation
7
Around 1980, Wendelle Stevens and Jim Dilettoso went to Michael Malin's laboratory at Arizona State University (ASU) with the same four Billy Meier photographs and two control pictures they had taken to other researchers.
“Stevens and Dilettoso went back to Malin’s lab at ASU around 1980, with the same four Meier photos and two controls that they had taken to everyone else.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:20832-20980 observation
8
Michael Malin digitised the Billy Meier photographs and performed preliminary analysis during the visit, and conducted further study in the following weeks.
“Malin digitized them and did some preliminary analysis while they were there, and did further study in the weeks following.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:20986-21099 observation
9
Michael Malin told Jim Dilettoso in a subsequent visit that he had spent considerable time examining the Billy Meier photographs.
“He told Dilettoso in a subsequent visit that he had spent quite some time with the photographs.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:21110-21193 testimony second hand
10
Michael Malin found no evidence of superimposition, or what he called "dubbing," in the Billy Meier photographs he examined.
“Malin’s findings were that he found no evidence of superimposition, or “dubbing,” as he called it.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:21218-21313 testimony second hand
11
Michael Malin gave Wendelle Stevens and Jim Dilettoso no written report on the Billy Meier photographs, as none had been requested.
“He gave them no written report, as they had not asked for one.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:21317-21375 administrative
12
Wendelle Stevens and Jim Dilettoso never retrieved or erased the digitised Billy Meier photographs from Michael Malin's system, assuming it would be good for him to share them with colleagues.
“They never went back to retrieve or erase the images, which were now digitized and in Malin’s system, since they thought it would be good for him to have them and pass them around to his colleagues, which they assumed that he did.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:21380-21606 observation
13
Michael Malin told Gary Kinder that he had found no evidence of a hoax in the Billy Meier photographs, but was not yet convinced the objects in the images were extraterrestrial spacecraft.
“Malin reiterated that he had found no evidence of a hoax, and he said so to Kinder, but he was not yet convinced that the objects in the images were extraterrestrial spacecraft.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:21887-22054 testimony second hand
14
Richard C. Hoagland considers the Billy Meier case significantly more "far out" than anything he ever proposed regarding Cydonia, and unlike the Cydonia investigation, not inherently falsifiable.
“If anything, the Meier case was significantly more “far out” than anything Hoagland ever proposed, and unlike the Cydonia investigation, was not inherently falsifiable.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:22293-22449 opinion first hand
15
Michael Malin reserved judgement on the more spectacular aspects of Billy Meier's story, showing he was at least willing to consider unusual or bizarre claims.
“Malin chose to reserve judgment on the more spectacular aspects of Meier’s story, but this early foray into such arcane territory showed that he was at least willing to consider unusual or even bizarre claims like Meier’s.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch10:23629-23849 observation
16
Billy Meier had his arm ripped off his body and all of his teeth smashed at the same time, and was delirious for 30 days after the remains of his arm were amputated without anaesthetic.
“You have your arm ripped off your body and all of your teeth smashed at the same time, and you're delirious for 30 days because they amputate what remains of your arm without anesthetic.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:00:06.4-00:00:18.5 testimony
17
Until he was about the age of 16, Billy Meier claims to have been tutored by a man named Sfath, who was at that time supposedly around 900 years of age.
“until he was about the age of 16, he claims to have been tutored by this man named Sfath, S-F-A-T-H, who was at that time supposedly around 900 years of age.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:00:18.5-00:00:34.6 testimony
18
Billy Meier is claimed to have taken approximately 1,200 UFO photographs that have been authenticated.
“if this man has indeed taken 1,200 or so UFO photos... And they've been authenticated.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:00:47.9-00:01:00.7 testimony
19
Billy Meier has said the meaning of life is the evolution of consciousness.
“And Billy has said the meaning of life is the evolution of consciousness.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:01:51.2-00:01:58.9 testimony
20
Two of the most contentious names in the UFO field, which instantly cause people to start feuding, are Bob Lazar and Billy Meier.
“there are a few names that you can drop and instantly, you know, people will start feuding. And two of those names are Bob Lazar and Billy Meier.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:03:15.9-00:03:27.8 opinion
21
The most famous Billy Meier reference is the 'I Want to Believe' poster that appears in nearly every X-Files episode, which is a cropped version of a Billy Meier photo.
“The most famous Billy Meier reference would definitely be that, you know, poster that appears in pretty much every X-Files episode, the I Want to Believe, the cropped version of a Billy Meier photo.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:05:37.4-00:05:52.6 testimony
22
Billy Meier is an 89-year-old man who claims that since the age of five he has been meeting with human beings from another star system who have tutored him from that age.
“Billy Meier is a now 89-year-old man who claims that since the age of five he has been meeting with human beings from another star system, that they have tutored him from that age”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:06:00.4-00:06:29.8 testimony
23
From the age of five, Billy Meier claims to have gone on board craft with his extraterrestrial contacts and on his own to designated places in and around Earth, off Earth within the solar system, and beyond.
“from the age of five he has gone on board with them and on his own to go designated places, especially in and around and on the Earth and off Earth, let's say, within our solar system and beyond.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:06:00.4-00:06:38.7 testimony
24
Michael Horn has made about 22 trips to Switzerland to meet with Billy Meier, with meetings lasting from half an hour to an hour and a half each.
“after about 22 trips that I've gone to Switzerland, taken to Switzerland, and met with him each time, spent some time, sometimes it's a half hour, sometimes it's an hour and a half”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:06:49.2-00:07:20.0 testimony first hand
25
Michael Horn tried to trick Billy Meier into revealing that he was hoaxing on at least four different occasions, and each time came away with a sense that Billy Meier was a genuine human being.
“to try to frankly and quite honestly try to trick him into revealing that he was hoaxing on four different occasions at least. I came away each time with a sense that I had just spent time with a very genuine human being.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:06:49.2-00:07:27.7 testimony first hand
26
Threats and attempts on Billy Meier's life have totalled 28 by now.
“Some of that reason is threats and attempts on his life that have totaled 28 by now.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:07:55.5-00:08:02.6 testimony
27
Billy Meier has published tens of thousands of pages of contact notes and information.
“massive amounts of information, tens of thousands of pages he's published so far.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:08:31.5-00:08:44.6 testimony
28
Billy Meier's published content dates back to 1946, when he was around nine years old and was publishing and disseminating information.
“the content dates back to 1946. when he was something like nine years old and was publishing information, disseminating it.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:09:37.0-00:09:47.7 testimony
29
By the time he was 9 or 10, Billy Meier is said to have had the thinking capacity of a 35-year-old adult.
“by the time he was 9 and 10, as you just alluded to, it is said that he had the thinking capacity of a 35-year-old adult.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:10:52.0-00:11:06.6 testimony
30
Billy Meier claims to have been tutored by Sfath from age 5 to age 16.
“all this time, until he was about the age of 16, from 5 to 16, he claims to have been tutored by this man named Sfath”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:11:06.6-00:11:23.6 testimony
31
Billy Meier has been in contact with some of his extraterrestrial contacts for 50-plus years.
“people that he's been in contact with for 50-plus years”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:11:32.1-00:11:48.8 testimony
32
Eight of Billy Meier's films remain; he had taken more, which disappeared and are understood to have been stolen.
“There's eight films remaining. Billy had taken more. They disappeared. Stolen is what we understand.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:22:49.8-00:22:58.3 testimony
33
Billy Meier never told people to manipulate his photographs to prove they were real; he presented them simply as a record of what happened.
“He didn't say, well, if you'll do this, you'll see it's real. He never does any of that type of thing. He says, this is what happened. Here are the photographs.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:24:52.6-00:25:00.8 testimony
34
Michael Horn noticed a difference in the configuration of the wedding cake object showing a burnished band and a raised cupola section, and when he asked Billy Meier, Meier explained the extraterrestrials raise that section to create more space, like a room with a shower.
“There's a burnished band here, and nobody's talked about this. ... So I asked Billy ... he says, oh, yes, it's like they have a room, you would say, like with the shower. It's more space up there. They raise that up.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:25:12.4-00:26:07.4 testimony first hand
35
In one of the Billy Meier contact reports, Billy Meier discusses the raised extra-space section of the craft with one of the alleged extraterrestrials, who confirms they have extra space created that way.
“So in one of the contact reports, Billy discusses that with one of the alleged extraterrestrials. ... And E.T. says, yes, well, you know, of course, we have an extra space that is created that way.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:26:07.4-00:26:24.7 testimony
36
Michael Horn inspected an open shed on Billy Meier's property expecting fine Swiss watchmaking model-making tools, but found only a tractor, shovels and gardening equipment.
“I walked over to see what kind of nice fine Swiss watchmaking stuff Billy must have socked away to make these great models. Well, there's a tractor, there's a bunch of shovels, there's a bunch of different kinds of gardening stuff.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:26:24.7-00:26:54.4 testimony first hand
37
Billy Meier's centre is a renovated farmhouse that Billy Meier did a great deal of work on himself single-handedly, having only one hand, before people gathered to study the material and help on the property.
“which is a renovated farmhouse that Billy, quite literally single-handed since he has one hand, did a great deal of work on himself before people came to gather around to study this material”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:26:54.4-00:27:14.9 testimony
38
Billy Meier's centre holds an annual meeting in late May for people around the world who want to come and participate, helping clear the land.
“Late May is spring is coming and all you nice folks can meet each other and help us clear the land at the same time and learn about things.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:28:31.9-00:28:39.7 testimony
39
Billy Meier did not make models himself; he once said he had tried to make a model, and some younger people made models for him that he put in his office.
“He's not a model maker. ... he had said that he had tried to make a model. ... And there was some younger people who made some models for him”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:31:55.5-00:32:13.5 testimony
40
Billy Meier is one-armed and has only one hand, but is very capable.
“because he is one-handed he's one arm he has one arm”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:32:14.4-00:32:17.4 testimony
41
Billy Meier turned over his metal samples and sound recordings for analysis, the sound recordings having been made in a large field with 15 to 20 eyewitnesses.
“He turned over the metal samples, the sound recordings he made out in a big field with, you know, 15, 20 eyewitnesses.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:33:27.1-00:33:35.8 testimony
42
Billy Meier knew when and where to go to have the opportunity to shoot a whole roll of 35-millimetre photographs and 8-millimetre films, sometimes shooting both at one location, such as for the Pendulum and wedding cake craft.
“this man, knew, maybe still knows, when and where to go that he will have the opportunity to shoot at least a whole roll of 35mm photographs. He will be able to shoot 8mm films ... such as in the pendulum and the wedding cake”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:39:19.7-00:39:58.8 testimony second hand
43
Billy Meier is claimed to have taken approximately 1,200 UFO photographs, eight surviving films and a video.
“if this man has indeed taken 1,200 or so UFO photos, eight films that remain, a video”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:40:07.9-00:40:20.7 testimony
44
Some of the photographic locations Billy Meier had to travel to were 40 kilometres from his house, often in snow, daytime or nighttime.
“you have to go over here, it's 40 kilometers from your house. Yes, it's snowing, but just show up at this time. It's daytime, it's nighttime”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:40:50.3-00:41:02.3 testimony
45
There have been authentic attempts to kill Billy Meier, including in his home.
“there are people trying to kill you, and we know that is authentic, even trying to kill him in his home.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:41:02.3-00:41:11.2 testimony
46
Billy Meier's extraterrestrial contacts told him in about 1981 or 1982 that there would be no more photo opportunities of their craft, because the computer age was beginning and people would call him a hoaxer.
“they told Billy in about 1981 82 no more photo ops ... you're entering the computer age and as you will soon learn ... People are already going to call you a hoaxer and a liar”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:42:38.3-00:43:11.2 testimony
47
Billy Meier was instructed to turn over the photos, films, video, sound recordings and metal samples to a team who would find experts to analyse them.
“The photos, the films, the video, the sound recordings, the metal samples. Here, you will turn them over to the team who will find experts in these areas”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:43:12.5-00:43:34.6 testimony
48
Billy Meier allegedly received samples of metals at different stages of manufacture.
“Billy uh received allegedly samples of metals at different stages of manufacture”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:44:09.2-00:44:18.7 testimony
49
In 1964 Billy Meier was a vagabond wandering around India with a knapsack.
“how does this vagabond in India in 1964, which Billy was, wandering around with a knapsack”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:50:32.1-00:50:40.6 testimony
50
In 1964 Billy Meier was interviewed in a prominent newspaper in India, and the journalist who interviewed him looked through an album containing 80 UFO photographs.
“Because Billy was interviewed in a prominent newspaper in India, and the journalist who interviewed him is looking through an album with 80 UFO photos in 1964.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:50:40.6-00:50:53.5 testimony
51
At least a dozen of Billy Meier's 1964 India UFO photographs still exist.
“And you still have at least a dozen of those, which we do.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:51:03.8-00:51:07.5 testimony
52
One of Billy Meier's 1964 India UFO photographs appears to contain a hologram.
“And one of them is phenomenally interesting because it appears there's a hologram in the photo and Billy had explained it”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:51:07.5-00:51:18.4 observation
53
Billy Meier took his 1964 photographs with an early version of a Kodak box camera, a relatively primitive 1940s-technology camera.
“these are primitive, taken with an old Kodak... This is 40s technology. And Billy was taking his photographs at that time in 1964 with this early version of a Kodak.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:51:18.4-00:51:54.9 testimony
54
Chris Ramsay considers the evidence around Billy Meier's primitive 1964 Kodak photographs compelling.
“I'll agree. Compelling.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:51:54.9-00:51:55.4 opinion
55
In one of Billy Meier's India photographs a woman is shown with eight light-in-the-sky UFOs, while the rest of the photographs showed clear disks hovering over things.
“one of the photographs, you see a woman in the photograph with eight, the lights in the sky quality UFOs, the rest of the photographs, they were all clear disks hovering over things.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:52:46.7-00:52:57.1 observation
56
Asket was Billy Meier's second alleged contact person.
“I used to see Billy meeting with this woman, Asket. This was his second alleged contact person.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:52:59.9-00:53:08.7 testimony
57
Chris Ramsay's initial analysis leaves him more comfortable with the scenario that Billy Meier hoaxed this part of the story, because he cannot comprehend it being authentic.
“my initial analysis i'm more comfortable living in that scenario okay um just because my brain cannot comprehend that being you know authentic”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:54:08.3-00:54:34.4 opinion
58
The term 'Pleiadian' was invented by Billy Meier and the beings, and there is no such thing as Pleiadians; the usage was given up after they predicted that people would come forward falsely claiming to be contactees, which came true.
“people called this word pleiadian that Billy and they invented there's no such thing as pleiadians you can flush that and they gave that up after a while because they predicted certain things and it came true about all these people that would come forward claiming to be contactees”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:55:33.6-00:55:59.3 testimony
59
Billy Meier and his first wife had an acrimonious relationship and were married for 30 years before divorcing.
“His ex-wife, who they had very acrimonious relationship 30 years of marriage and then they got divorced”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:56:34.6-00:56:44.7 testimony
60
Billy Meier's ex-wife was one of 17 people around him who claimed to be eyewitnesses and who underwent lie-detector (voice-stress) testing, and they all passed as authentic.
“she had uh was one of 17 people that they did at using the technology of the time voice stress or whatever they did lie detector tests with the people who were around him who claimed to be eyewitnesses and they all passed as being authentic”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:56:44.7-00:57:07.8 testimony
61
Billy Meier has three adult children named Atlantis, Atlant, and Gilgamesha.
“He has three adult children, Atlantis, Atlant, and Gilgamesha.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:57:07.8-00:57:15.3 testimony
62
Atlantis is Billy Meier's stepson.
“but Atlantis is his stepson.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:57:15.3-00:57:23.1 testimony
63
Atlantis is featured in the film The Silent Revolution of Truth, and he is one of Billy Meier's two natural sons.
“Atlantis is featured in one of our films... when we did this film, The Silent Revolution of Truth, one of Billy's two natural sons”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:57:23.1-00:57:49.3 testimony
64
Billy Meier's children saw the craft as children and grew up amid ridicule because their father was called a liar and fabricator, with his father disappearing in the middle of the night and returning to write and publish.
“as children, they have seen these craft... his father's disappearing in the middle of the night and coming back and writing voluminous stuff and publishing information... he and his siblings were subjected to a lot of ridicule.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:57:49.3-00:58:36.1 testimony
65
Billy Meier's material began getting out in Europe starting in 1975, before it was translated into English.
“Starting in 1975, it's getting out in Europe before it's translated into English, and people are already interested or attacking him.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:58:17.9-00:58:26.8 testimony
66
To the best of Michael Horn's knowledge Billy Meier does not see the beings, only the ships, and drew them as a child.
“He never sees, to the best of my knowledge, he doesn't see them. He sees the ships. He's painted or drawn them as a child.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:59:19.0-00:59:26.1 testimony
67
Brunhilde Koya, known as Bruni and either Swiss or German, described turning a corner at a wall Billy Meier built and seeing a huge man reclining on the wall.
“her name was Bruni, and she was either a Swiss or a German, maybe Brunhilde Koya... I was walking along and I turned the corner and where the wall is, Billy built this wall, there is this... huge man reclining on the wall.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:59:55.0-01:00:24.8 testimony second hand
68
Billy Meier's wife once walked into a room where Ptaah, the alleged leader of the Pleiaren race, was sitting on the couch, and he was startled and disappeared.
“Meier's wife had walked in while they were still together into the room where the alleged leader of their race ptah pronounced p-t-a-a-h... he's sitting on the couch and unexpectedly she walks in he's startled... She says he disappears.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:00:56.2-01:01:27.9 testimony
69
Billy Meier's wife later changed her story, saying Billy was making models and lying about everything.
“Then later on, she changes her story. Oh, no, Billy's making models. He's lying about everything.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:01:49.2-01:01:54.8 testimony
70
After divorcing Billy Meier, his ex-wife's bank account increased by a five-figure sum in Swiss money, and she became affiliated with known sceptics and defamers of Billy Meier.
“When she was divorced from Billie, and on her own, suddenly her bank account was increased by five figures in Swiss money, and there were some people that now she was affiliated with who were known skeptics and defamers of Billie.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:02:06.9-01:02:24.1 testimony
71
Billy Meier's ex-wife had thrown things at him such as frying pans.
“She had thrown things at him like frying pans”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:02:34.4-01:02:38.3 testimony
72
As a teenage boy Billy Meier ran away from Switzerland because authorities wanted to put him into a juvenile detention centre, after he hit back at a woman who had repeatedly beaten him with a towel since childhood.
“he ran away from switzerland as a teenage boy because they wanted to put him into a juvenile detention center... this woman had grabbed a towel... started to beat him with it and he'd had enough... slapped her around with it”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:02:38.3-01:03:18.4 testimony
73
To avoid legal consequences Billy Meier joined the French Foreign Legion for a while, then chose to return to Switzerland and face the consequences rather than become a trained killer.
“Billy decides that he thinks he'll take a trip to the french foreign legion and avoid some consequences which he did. And he was in the French Foreign Legion for a while... he did not want to become a trained killer, and he would return to Switzerland and face the music”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:03:18.4-01:03:41.4 testimony
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Billy Meier was said to have walked across the desert and survived it, one of the few people to ever walk out from where he was based, possibly Algiers.
“he trudged across the desert, one of the few people to ever walk out from wherever he was centered there, I don't know if it was Algiers or what, to walk across the desert and survive it.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:03:41.4-01:03:54.1 testimony
75
While crossing the desert Billy Meier was followed by two men also trying to escape, and he sipped from his canteen and shook it to pretend it was still full of water so they would push to catch up and survive the crossing.
“There were two men who were trying to also escape. When they saw him, they followed him, and he had a canteen, and he would sip from it and pretend that it was still full of water when it had already been, and shake it in their faces so that they would want to catch up with him.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:03:54.1-01:04:11.7 testimony
76
For one photographic session a man with a name like Liniger insisted on purchasing and loading the film himself and taking it to Bear Photo for development, and Billy Meier agreed; Billy then took 30 or more photographs and had no possession of the film.
“this man said i want to... purchase and load the film into the camera before you take the photos and i want to take that out and be the one who brings it for development at bear photo Billy said that's fine... Billy took whatever, 30 or more photos... Billy stories had no possession of the film”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:05:26.0-01:06:31.0 testimony
77
Investigators including Wendell Stevens had a model of one of the craft made at the MGM studios in Hollywood to test whether Billy Meier was hoaxing his photographs.
“when the investigators wendell stevens and others were trying to also figure out if Billy was hoaxing these photos they wendell had a model made at the mgm studios in hollywood of one of the craft”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:06:31.0-01:06:53.0 testimony
78
Wendell Stevens's team went to the locations Billy Meier specified, had him take photographs with his own camera while they dangled the model and photographed it, to compare results.
“they would go to locations where Billy said, this is where I took this... Billy, you take photos with your camera and we're gonna take photos and we're gonna dangle the model.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:06:59.3-01:07:20.6 testimony
79
A sceptic known as Der Pilger, who had previously sent Billy Meier nasty material, contacted him, apologised, and reported that he had photographed an object in a field with his own camera.
“he was a skeptic who had also sent Billy some very nasty stuff. And he one day contacts Billy and says, listen, may I come and meet with you? I have some photographs here... I had my camera and I took these photographs and I saw this thing.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:10:04.7-01:10:35.0 testimony
80
Among the witnesses were road workers from Turkey, one of whom was skeptical and nasty toward Billy Meier, could not handle what he saw, and apparently committed suicide.
“There were people who were workers from Turkey who were working on the road. One man was quite skeptical and quite nasty towards him, and he couldn't handle what he saw. And he apparently actually committed suicide. This is in the documentation.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:10:36.0-01:10:50.7 testimony
81
The Befath recognised that Billy Meier, who was meeting with the Pleiaren, would be an obstacle to their agenda, and engineered attacks on his life.
“Billy Meier was someone on the planet that uh would be an obstacle to their agenda they knew that he was meeting with let's say the lighter side... and the Pleiarian and uh they engineered some attacks on his life.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:16:05.9-01:16:35.6 testimony
82
Billy Meier published information about the Giza Intelligences and spaces underneath the pyramid in 1953.
“1953... He published that information... Billy Meier wrote about that in 1953.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:17:33.4-01:17:45.8 testimony
83
Billy Meier was tutored by Sfath for 11 years, and Sfath told him before passing out of life that his next teacher would be a woman more advanced in knowledge who would guide him for the next 11 years.
“after 11 years of being tutored by Sfath, Sfath is going to pass out of life, and he says, you will meet your next teacher, she... And she's more advanced in knowledge than I am in certain things... and she will guide you for the next 11 years.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:17:45.8-01:18:11.3 testimony
84
After Sfath passed away, Billy Meier soon heard a woman's voice speaking in his head, beginning his contact with Asket.
“sure enough, he passes away, and shortly thereafter, very quickly, he hears a woman's voice speaking to him in his head”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:18:11.3-01:18:21.7 testimony
85
As early as 1953 Asket gave Billy Meier prophecies, including that two brothers running for president in America would be assassinated, naming that John Fitzgerald Kennedy would be killed in Dallas, Texas on a specified day.
“As early as 1953, She tells him about the assassination in America of two brothers who will be running for president. The date that it will happen, John Fitzgerald Kennedy will be killed in Dallas, Texas on this day.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:18:23.1-01:18:44.3 testimony
86
Asket's 1953 prophecies to Billy Meier also included the assassination of Robert Kennedy and a list of other kings and figures.
“and then the assassination of his brother robert kennedy and then a whole laundry list of kings and people who she unloads a lot of stuff on him and that's published”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:18:48.3-01:18:58.6 testimony
87
In 1987 Billy Meier was given the Henoch Prophecies, containing about 300 specific predictions, many of which have subsequently happened.
“In 1987, Billy is given something called the Henoch prophecies... It's like 300, I think, specific things.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:19:16.5-01:20:05.1 testimony
88
In 1989 Billy Meier was told in a conversation with Quetzal that terrorists would fly airplanes into the World Trade Center buildings and that about 3,000 people would be killed.
“1989, he's also told again, terrorists will fly airplanes into these buildings. There's a conversation with Quetzal, one of the other ETs... yes, there will be 3,000 people or so that will be killed.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:20:46.6-01:20:58.9 testimony
89
In 2011 Michael Horn visited Billy Meier to make a film featuring about 50 of the prophecies.
“2011 was also a year in which I went and visited Billy and we were making a film where we have like 50 of these prophecies in the film.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:22:42.1-01:22:53.3 testimony first hand
90
In 2011 Billy Meier predicted on film that there would be a vying for power and control at the Arctic, and eventually the Antarctic, with Russia, Canada, the United States, China and Great Britain pushing for control of mineral rights.
“he talks about, oh yes, the Arctic... The vying for power and control at the Arctic, and eventually he says at the Antartic... Russia, Canada, the U.S., China, or Great Britain... all these countries are going to be pushing for control of mineral rights.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:22:55.6-01:23:28.7 testimony
91
The retired physicist, after reviewing the information, concluded that Billy Meier is not a schizophrenic or a crazy lunatic, and that Billy's account of the Arctic region described a coherent military strategy.
“Billy Meier is not a schizophrenic. He's not a crazy lunatic. He says, I was in the American military... what Billy is saying here is a strategy.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:24:29.6-01:24:55.6 opinion second hand
92
Asket picked Billy Meier up, they left the ship and went to the pyramids in Egypt, where she knew the location of an entrance leading deep underground.
“she picks him up and uh they go to egypt they leave the ship and They go to the pyramids and somehow she knows where this entrance is that goes, you can walk way deep down.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:27:24.4-01:27:42.0 testimony
93
Asket and Billy Meier used devices that rendered them invisible, out of phase with the human visual spectrum, during the pyramid visit.
“they also had devices that would render them not visible, out of phase with our visual spectrum.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:27:42.0-01:27:52.6 testimony
94
During the pyramid visit Asket and Billy Meier communicated strictly telepathically, an ability Billy was taught by Sfath as a child.
“they were communicating strictly telepathic... this is something that Billy supposedly was capable of doing since he was taught by Sfath as a child.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:27:55.3-01:28:12.6 testimony
95
In the underground chamber Billy Meier saw on a platform what appeared to be the cross of the crucifixion, the spear of destiny, the crown of thorns and bloody nails, but Asket said they were not genuine artifacts; they were made by the Befath and would carbon-date to the crucifixion period if tested.
“oh my gosh, that's the cross of the crucifixion. And there's the spear of destiny, the crown of thorns, the bloody nails... And she says, no, they are not. They were made by these people. But if your scientists on earth would test them, they would carbon date to that period of time.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:29:05.1-01:29:39.9 testimony
96
Billy Meier learned of the Befath in 1953, and around 1975 to 1978 the Befath sent a robotically controlled ship toward the centre, the renovated farmhouse where the group lives and works, during an August holiday event when cannons were being fired.
“Billy's learning all this stuff in 53. Now we're about 78 or 75, whatever it is, when they're having this event in Switzerland, the cannons are going off, and the Befath had put a ship in motion towards the center, the farmhouse at Billy renovated, where everybody lives and works from.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:32:00.1-01:32:29.6 testimony
97
The Befath craft planned to synchronise a sonic attack beam with the firing of a cannon in the valley to detonate something such as a water heater and kill everyone in Billy Meier's centre, especially Billy.
“the Bifoth craft comes over and they're synchronizing to when a cannon goes off in the valley, they're going to send a sonic attack beam down to hopefully detonate, blow up a water heater... everybody in there, including, and especially Billy, would be killed.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:32:41.6-01:33:01.7 testimony
98
In the film The Silent Revolution of Truth, Billy Meier shows a metal plate that he had placed in an agenda book and secured behind his jacket because he had dreamt the night before that he would be shot at a certain point in the road.
“in our first film silent revolution he shows a metal uh plate that he had put in a an agenda book and you know secured inside behind his jacket because he had dreamt the night before he would get shot he would be shot when he goes to hits a certain point in the road and this is where the bullet would hit”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:34:28.9-01:34:58.4 testimony
99
The shooter who fired at Billy Meier appeared, shot, disappeared, and later contacted Billy Meier saying he was the person who did it and wished to apologise.
“and the person did appear and shot and disappeared and later contacted him ... Billy has strange things to say, I am the person that did that. I would like to apologize.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:34:28.9-01:35:10.4 testimony
100
Billy Meier told the shooter who had apologised that he could come over and that they would not call the police.
“And Billy said, well, you can come over and we're not going to call the police or anything in New York.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:35:03.0-01:35:10.4 testimony
101
Someone hiding in the bushes with a long gun shot at Billy Meier and missed.
“there was someone in the bushes with a long gun who shot at him and missed”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:35:19.5-01:35:32.7 testimony
102
Billy Meier owned an impressive weapon cabinet and carried his own weapons for self-defence.
“And Billy was carrying, packing one of his weapons, and we show his weapon cabinet is pretty impressive.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:35:32.7-01:35:40.6 testimony
103
Billy Meier said his weapons included a bulldog revolver and a Kalashnikov.
“And Billy says, no, and this is my bulldog revolver, and this is my Kalashnikov.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:35:43.5-01:35:52.3 testimony
104
In an image of Billy Meier as the phantom in the Middle East, he wears an Arab headdress and a Swiss jacket and carries a .357 Magnum and a knife.
“when you see his image from being the phantom in the Middle East, and he's got the Arab headdress, he's got the Swiss jacket, and he's packing a .357 Magnum and a knife”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:35:52.3-01:36:09.6 testimony
105
Billy Meier brought in serial killers and mass murderers without harming them.
“this is the guy who was bringing in serial killers and mass murderers without harming them”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:35:52.3-01:36:09.6 testimony
106
Billy Meier said he never killed anybody and that when people shot at him he wounded them so the authorities could come and take them.
“it was actually cute, I never killed anybody. If they shot at me, I wound them so the authorities could come and take them.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:36:12.2-01:36:22.7 testimony
107
Someone managed to put a slug through Billy Meier's left arm early on.
“somebody had managed to put a slug through what was his left arm early on”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:36:22.7-01:36:31.0 testimony
108
Witnesses have attested that while moving a delivered cast iron stove, Billy Meier stopped a tractor near it, and the stove rose into the air, came over, and settled by itself.
“Billy was uh bringing the tractor we were going to move the cast iron stove that had been delivered and then Billy stopped the tractor near it or something and he sat in it and then the stove came up in the air and came over and it settled”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:36:33.5-01:37:01.4 testimony second hand
109
Billy Meier had telekinetic ability.
“That he had telekinetic ability? ... yes”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:37:04.5-01:37:09.1 opinion
110
Billy Meier had many abilities and earned his abilities.
“he had a lot of abilities ... he earned his ability”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:37:09.1-01:37:29.7 opinion
111
A woman reported that Billy Meier was sitting in the house, then she walked out the back and found him sitting there although he had not passed her.
“there was a woman who said um something about Billy was over here in the house sitting ... she went out and walked out back and he was sitting there and he had not passed her”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:37:29.7-01:37:57.0 testimony second hand
112
Billy Meier performed small tricks for people occasionally in the early days but had to stop doing that past a certain point.
“he did some of this some little tricks for people occasionally early on because he could but that was he had to not uh do that past a certain point”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:37:33.5-01:37:57.0 testimony
113
In one of the more recent assassination attempts, Billy Meier stepped out, stood with a water bottle in a shirt pocket, and a bullet hit the bottle.
“one of the more recent assassinations he steps out and he sees somebody and he stands there and a bullet comes and he had put a water bottle in a shirt pocket and he stood there apparently and the bullet hits them”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:37:57.0-01:38:24.5 testimony
114
Billy Meier had his arm ripped off his body and all of his teeth smashed at the same time, and was delirious for 30 days because the remainder of his arm was amputated without anaesthetic.
“you have your arm ripped off your body and all of your teeth smashed at the same time, and you're delirious for 30 days because they amputate what remains of your arm without anesthetic”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:38:24.5-01:38:42.8 testimony
115
As a child Billy Meier was taken and shown things and allowed to be in a craft on his own to go places.
“yet you've been able to, as a child, be taken and shown things and allowed to be in a craft on your own to go places”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:38:42.8-01:38:59.0 testimony
116
At the current count there are 928 public Billy Meier contact reports, with many others being private information between Billy Meier and the extraterrestrials.
“With, at the current counting, 928 public. Contact reports. ... Many others, it's just private information between him and them.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:39:21.1-01:39:34.3 testimony
117
In 1982 Billy Meier gave a radio interview with an English-speaking man on a Swiss radio station network, before he had an accident that caused a brain injury.
“in 1982, Billy gives a radio interview with an English-speaking man on a Swiss radio station network or something. ... This is before he had also an accident where he had a brain injury.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:45:05.3-01:45:51.8 testimony
118
In the 1982 Swiss radio interview Billy Meier said a third world war was going to happen, that it could not be avoided, and was a certainty.
“he is asked, well, about a third word rolling bill, he says, yes, that is going to happen. It cannot be avoided. It's certainty. It's a prediction.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:45:55.4-01:46:12.4 testimony
119
In the 1982 Swiss radio interview Billy Meier said a third world war would involve the big attacks and conflict between the United Kingdom and Russia, with other countries including Iran, Israel, Iraq and the Falklands.
“it's going to be the big attacks, the conflict between the UK and Russia. And other countries involved will be. Iran, Israel, Iraq, and the Falklands, the Falklands, 1982.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:46:26.6-01:46:52.5 testimony
120
In 2006 in Switzerland Billy Meier told Michael Horn that the Iraq war was fundamentally not about oil but about the dollar, and that if things went a certain way one may as well roll cigarettes with paper money.
“In 2006, I'm in Switzerland, standing and talking with Billy ... Billy, fundamentally, was the Iraq war about oil? ... Fundamentally, no. It's about your dollar. And if things go a certain way, you may as well roll cigarettes with your paper money.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:48:25.7-01:48:59.9 testimony first hand
121
As early as 1946 and 1948, Billy Meier's teacher said that a megalomaniacal Hitler-like dictator would arise in the United States who would be incompetent, full of himself, and cause great trouble in the world.
“as early as 46, 48. His teacher, and he's written this all down and there's numbers, is talking about how a megalomaniacal Hitler-like dictator will arise in the U.S. who will be just full of himself, an incompetent leader who will cause great trouble in the world.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:49:25.1-01:49:48.3 testimony
122
Billy Meier's teacher said in 1946 and 1948 that the future United States dictator would threaten Persia, China, Russia and other countries, create problems in the seas with barricades and illogical tariffs to punish people.
“And he mentions Persia, China, Russia, and other countries. He will threaten them. He will create problems in the seas and barricades and tariffs, foolish illogical tariffs to punish people.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:49:55.4-01:50:15.3 testimony
123
The Pleiaren gave Billy Meier the names of kings who would be assassinated, telling him that people would think the assassinations came from one source but they would actually be carried out by the Israeli secret service (Mossad).
“In the 70s, for instance, they would tell him— the names uh they they gave him the names of kings uh this king uh is going to be assassinated ... but it will be the israeli mossad they said it they said their secret service”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:51:29.8-01:51:59.3 testimony
124
The Pleiaren told Billy Meier that in retaliation for the terrorism of the Israelis there would be terrorism from Hamas and Hezbollah.
“in retaliation for the terrorism of the Israelis, there will be terrorism from the Hamas and Hezbollah”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:52:01.3-01:52:14.5 testimony
125
In 1958 Billy Meier spoke about first America and then the European Union, which did not exist yet in 1958, biochipping every man, woman and child on the planet to control them so that their every movement to the metre could be determined and controlled.
“when Billy in 1958 speaks about first America and then the EU, which didn't exist yet in 58, will biochip every man, woman, and child on the face of the planet to control them so well that their every movement to the meter, to the inch, can be determined and controlled.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:55:40.0-01:56:07.1 testimony
126
In 1958 Billy Meier said that things would develop so that people would lose their ability to determine the truth and their eyes would no longer be able to know if what they are looking at is real because the deceptions would be so effective.
“when he in 1958 also says that the people, that things will develop so that the people will lose their ability to determine the truth. Their eyes will no longer be able to know if what they're looking at is real. It will be so effective, the deceptions.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:56:09.3-01:56:24.5 testimony
127
Billy Meier said that Edgar Cayce was a genuine seer who had a form of schizophrenia whereby he could see only in a sleep-like state, with a specialty mainly in medical matters.
“And Billy had said Edgar Cayce was a genuine seer. It was an interesting form of a kind of a schizophrenia whereby only in this state, when he'd go to sleep or whatever, he could see. And his specialty, I think was mainly medical things”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:57:04.3-01:57:25.2 testimony
128
Billy Meier said that with Nostradamus people do not interpret correctly, and that some things thought to have happened or be happening are still in the future in Nostradamus' prophecies.
“He even said that with Nostradamus, he says, people don't interpret correctly. Some of the things that they think either have happened or are happening are still futural with Nostradamus' prophecies.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:57:34.2-01:57:48.3 testimony
129
Billy Meier follows a lineage of prophets and is the seventh and final person to deliver these messages.
“he follows like this sort of long lineage of prophets ... he's like the seventh one. ... Seventh and final person.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:00:44.3-02:00:57.7 testimony
130
In the Billy Meier material there were a few other people who could potentially have taken the role of prophet, one or two of whom were made aware of it and declined, and some who may have died.
“there was a few other people potentially who could have done this gig possibly ... I think there was one or two who were made aware of it somehow, who declined it. Some who may have died, whatever.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:01:08.8-02:01:32.1 testimony
131
Michael Horn suggested that an unnamed woman who could have taken the prophet role might have been Helena Blavatsky.
“because they didn't name who the woman was, but I think it could have been Madame Blavatsky. Possibly.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:01:37.5-02:01:46.1 opinion
132
The prophets prior to Billy Meier in the lineage are Enoch, Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jmmanuel, and Muhammad.
“Well, you've got Enoch or Henoch, Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Emmanuel. We'll get back there. Muhammad and Billy.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:01:48.8-02:02:01.3 testimony
133
According to the Billy Meier material, the real man who was crucified and falsely named Jesus Christ was named Jmmanuel.
“Emmanuel, was crucified, that's the name of the man according to the Meier material, the real man who was falsely named Jesus Christ.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:02:37.6-02:02:47.8 testimony
134
Around 1963 or 1964 Billy Meier, together with a Greek Orthodox priest named Isa Rashid, dug into a hole at the base of a hillside on the outskirts of Jerusalem which turned out to be an ancient tomb.
“Well, Billy Meier, along with a Greek Orthodox priest, I think it's about 63, 64, right in there, telepathically, our lid story goes, the outskirts of Jerusalem, there's a hillside ... at the base of it, there's a hole in there. ... The man that he is with is named or called Isa Rashid.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:03:07.4-02:03:55.5 testimony
135
In the tomb outside Jerusalem, Billy Meier and Isa Rashid found resin-encrusted, animal-skin-wrapped scrolls written in Aramaic.
“They find resin-encrusted, animal-wrapped, animal skin wrapped scrolls. written in Aramaic.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:04:13.5-02:04:30.2 testimony
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Billy Meier did not read or write Aramaic, so he asked Isa Rashid to translate the scrolls and send him the translation.
“Billy does not read and write Aramaic. He knows what Isa is here for, and he says, okay, you will take this and translate, please, and send me the translation.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:04:30.2-02:04:43.0 testimony
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Within about five or six years Billy Meier received from Isa Rashid the first third or so of the translated document.
“And within about five or six years, something like that, he gets the first third or so of this overall document.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:04:50.3-02:05:00.4 testimony
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Around 1974 Billy Meier learned that Isa Rashid and his family had been machine gunned to death in Baghdad, ostensibly by the Mossad.
“a few years later, I think it's around 1974, he learns that Issa Rashid and his family have been machine gunned to death in Baghdad, ostensibly by the Mossad.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:05:56.0-02:06:13.1 testimony
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Billy Meier received the Talmud of Jmmanuel text in German and later discovered that Isa Rashid had changed certain things based on his own religiosity because they did not fit with his beliefs.
“Billy has received all of this stuff in German. ... he discovers later more that Isa Rashid had changed certain things based on his own religiosity. There were certain things in here that didn't fit with his beliefs.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:06:13.1-02:06:38.2 testimony
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According to the Billy Meier material, Muhammad did not marry nine-year-old girls, was a champion for the rights of women, and did not believe in a jihad of slaughtering enemies.
“And Muhammad didn't marry nine-year-old girls. He was a champion for the rights of women and a protector of women. He did not believe in a jihad where you go and start slaughtering your enemies, according to this information in the Meier case.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:10:26.9-02:10:43.1 testimony
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Billy Meier, after decades, said that the term spiritual teaching was an incorrect word, and that what is meant is the creation energy teaching.
“It is what was formerly called the spiritual teaching. And then Billy finally, after decades says, this is an incorrect word. ... This is the creation energy.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:11:20.5-02:11:42.5 testimony
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The creation energy teaching is a teaching the Pleiaren have access to at levels that humans do not, and which Billy Meier did not create.
“the teaching, which he didn't create, and which is a teaching the Pleiaren have access to and levels of it that we don't”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:14:24.8-02:14:52.2 testimony
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Billy Meier said that the meaning of life is the evolution of consciousness.
“Billy has said, the meaning of life is the evolution of consciousness”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:14:24.8-02:14:55.6 testimony
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Billy Meier wrote a book called The Might of the Thoughts about how the mind works and how thinking works.
“Billy has written a phenomenal book called the might of the thoughts and how the mind works how thinking works”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:16:42.5-02:17:01.0 testimony
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Billy Meier has written over 60 books, of which only about a dozen are translated into English.
“he's written over 60 books, and only maybe a dozen are translated into English.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:18:33.3-02:18:39.2 testimony
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Billy Meier has written about reincarnation, rebirth, death and dying, fluidal forces and swinging waves.
“He's written about reincarnation, rebirth, death, and dying. fluidal forces, swinging waves.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:18:39.2-02:18:47.6 testimony
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Neither Billy Meier nor the Pleiaren know the answer to what came before the beginning, as the human brain can only go so far.
“even the Pleiaron, I asked him, said, do the Pleiaron know the answer to it? No, the human brain can only go so far.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:35:08.2-02:35:26.0 testimony
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Billy Meier has written an entire book, Arahat Athersata, dealing with how anything came into being.
“There's the Arahat Atharzata. Billy's got a whole book on there.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:36:08.2-02:36:13.0 testimony
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Billy Meier declined an offer from the Pleiaren to give him a replacement arm, saying he is an earth person and that a regrown left arm would risk a military kidnapping and dissection.
“they offered to give him a fake arm. No, thank you. I'm an earth person. ... if suddenly I appear with a left arm, how long is it going to take for some military to kidnap my butt and start taking me apart?”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:36:41.9-02:37:02.1 testimony
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A 1976 Billy Meier prophecy, sourced from a higher creation-energy level called the Petale, foretold a time when seven-foot-tall giants would emerge from centuries-long underground hiding places in Peru to molest the people there.
“1976 it's in books and everything else ... this is the petali level ... they spoke about the time that will come in Peru when the seven-foot-tall giants will emerge from their centuries-long hiding places underground to molest the people there.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:38:01.5-02:38:54.0 testimony
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The reported Peru giants event occurred approximately 47 years after the Billy Meier prophecy was published, matching its details of location and the size of the people.
“that verifiably 47 years or whatever it is after that was published, that event occurred right down to where and the size of the people.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:39:01.9-02:39:21.6 testimony
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Michael Horn does not believe in Billy Meier or UFOs but instead has evidence from his own experience, holding that when you know something you do not have to believe in it.
“i've been asked if i believe in Billy Meier believe in ufos and i've said no When you know something, you don't have to believe in it. ... rather than belief, I have the evidence in my experience”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:42:05.3-02:42:29.2 opinion first hand