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    Budd Hopkins's public lecture in Sydney in October 1992 helped legitimise and popularise the reality of abductions and shifted UFO Research New South Wales's previously negative attitude toward the subject.

    “It took the visit of American alien abduction researcher Budd Hopkins in October 1992 to shake the conservatism of the UFO group. Hopkins's public lecture and its impact helped legitimize or popularize the reality of abductions and the UFO group's negative attitude toward the subject began to change.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch10:4927-5221 observation first hand

  2. 2

    Moira McGhee and Bryan Dickeson speculated that Peter Khoury might have acquired the alien hair sample from another abductee, possibly from one of those who came forward during the October 1992 visit of Budd Hopkins.

    “For Moira and Bryan the absence of a reference to the hair might have implied it had possibly come from somewhere else. They speculated that perhaps Peter had acquired the hair sample from another abductee, maybe from one of those who came forward during the October 1992 visit of American abduction researcher Budd Hopkins.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:2257-2573 opinion second hand

  3. 3

    Budd Hopkins is an American abduction researcher.

    “maybe from one of those who came forward during the October 1992 visit of American abduction researcher Budd Hopkins”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:2464-2573 administrative

  4. 4

    Budd Hopkins passed on some Australian abductee contact details to Peter Khoury's new support group, but none of those witnesses had experiences featuring physical evidence such as hair samples.

    “Hopkins did pass on some Australian abductee contact details to Peter's new support group, but none of these witnesses had experiences that featured physical evidence such as hair samples.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch14:2583-2763 testimony first hand

  5. 5

    Budd Hopkins and Carol Rainey highlight transgenics, or an alien variation of it, as the breakdown of the barrier between species that possibly legitimises the idea that alien abduction is about genetic experimentation by alien beings.

    “Leading abduction researcher Budd Hopkins and his co-author Carol Rainey highlight transgenics, or rather an alien variation on it, as the breakthrough—“the breakdown of the barrier between species”— that possibly legitimizes the idea that alien abduction may really be about genetic experimentation by alien beings.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:23283-23592 opinion second hand

  6. 6

    Sally (Budd Hopkins abductee) had been in contact with Budd Hopkins since 1987, when she was trying to understand a peculiar "missing time" experience.

    “Sally had been in contact with Budd Hopkins since 1987, when she was trying to understand a peculiar “missing time” experience.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:24009-24125 testimony second hand

  7. 7

    Sally phoned Budd Hopkins within a week of the Stewart bedroom incident about her recollections of the encounter.

    “Budd Hopkins points out that Sally phoned him within a week about her recollections of that strange nocturnal interlude.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:26420-26530 testimony second hand

  8. 8

    Budd Hopkins interviewed Hannah by phone, confirming the details of her account of the night of the Stewart bedroom encounter.

    “Hopkins interviewed Hannah by phone, confirming these details.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:26994-27048 testimony second hand

  9. 9

    A few years after the Stewart bedroom incident, Molly, an abductee from Budd Hopkins's New York support group, stayed with Sally in another Washington-area apartment.

    “A few years later, “Molly,” an abductee from Budd Hopkins’s New York support group, stayed with Sally in another apartment she had taken in the Washington area.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:27058-27213 testimony second hand

  10. 10

    Bill Chalker considers Vicki Klein's account to share several features identical to those heralded as a breakthrough for understanding the alien abduction agenda by Budd Hopkins in 1987, including humanoid beings of the Nordic type involved in a genetic programme using painful ova removal, a room housing bred babies, and weak babies responding to human bonding.

    “In this account we have several features that are identical to the ones heralded as a breakthrough for the understanding of the alien abduction agenda by Budd Hopkins in 1987: the humanoid beings, one of them apparently of the “Nordic type,” involved in a genetic program that utilizes painful ova removal procedures, taking place in a strange room that houses bred babies (an alien incubatorium), and babies that seem weak and respond to bonding with humans.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:19051-19503 opinion first hand

  11. 11

    Oliver Harry Turner's 1971-72 notes on Vicki Klein's experiences prefigured several extraordinary elements of the alien abduction phenomenon that would not become public until researcher Budd Hopkins first described them in his 1987 best-selling book Intruders.

    “Harry Turner's 1971-72 notes revealed that Mrs. Klein's bizarre experiences actually prefigured several extraordinary elements of the UFO abduction phenomenon that would not become public for more than a decade and a half, when researcher Budd Hopkins first described them in his 1987 best-selling book Intruders.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:3092-3395 opinion first hand

  12. 12

    In Budd Hopkins's view, alien abductors are extraterrestrial and involved in an extraordinary genetic experiment in which human beings are first abducted as children and their cells sampled.

    “The alien abductors, in his view, are extraterrestrial and are involved in some sort of extraordinary genetic experiment. Human beings are first abducted when children. Their cells are sampl”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:19790-19971 opinion second hand

  13. 13

    Budd Hopkins presented red-tinted photos of a playground area in suburban Brisbane, Australia, taken during 1992, that may have some significance in a family's alien abduction account.

    “Budd Hopkins has presented some curious, red-tinted photos of a playground area in suburban Brisbane in Australia during 1992 that may have some significance in a family’s abduction account.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:17016-17198 administrative

  14. 14

    Budd Hopkins cites the 1992 suburban Brisbane playground photos as displaying possible evidence of the invisibility techniques employed by alien abductors.

    “Hopkins cites the photos as displaying possible evidence of the invisibility techniques employed by alien abductors.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:17207-17313 opinion second hand

  15. 15

    Budd Hopkins and John Mack provided circumstantial evidence for alien abduction of humans in the form of landing-site traces, biopsy scars, alleged implants, and testimonies from abducted individuals.

    “those people who believe in the UFO scenario tend to accept the investigations of authors such as B. Hopkins195 or J. Mack196, who have provided circumstantial evidence for the abduction of humans in terms of: (a) landing-site traces, (b) prominent “biopsy” scars, (c) alleged “implants” ... and (d) testimonies”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch22:579-935 administrative

  16. 16

    Bill Chalker considers that the picture of Lucy/Sally painted by Jim Schnabel does not match the individual Budd Hopkins described to him.

    “The picture Schnabel paints of “Lucy” (aka “Sally”) does not sit well with the individual Budd Hopkins described to me.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:20857-20973 opinion first hand

  17. 17

    Budd Hopkins told Bill Chalker that he felt the subject (Stewart) frightened Jim Schnabel at times, causing Schnabel to turn on the subject and debunk it.

    “Hopkins told me that he felt the subject frightened Schnabel at times, with the end result being that Schnabel turned on it, debunking the whole subject.”

    Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:20977-21122 testimony second hand

  18. 18

    Budd Hopkins was present at both the October 4 and December 26 hypnosis sessions, recording them and permitted to ask questions only at the end of each session.

    “I wish to add that Budd Hopkins was present at both of these sessions, recording them. He was allowed to ask questions, but only at the end of each session, and it was understood that his questions would be few.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:10156-10363 observation first hand

  19. 19

    Whitley Strieber chose not to approach any hypnotist to whom Budd Hopkins had made previous referrals.

    “I chose not to approach any hypnotist to whom Hopkins had made previous referrals, despite the excellence of their credentials.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:1210-1325 observation first hand

  20. 20

    Dr. Aphrodite Clamar had worked extensively with Budd Hopkins and was a highly professional psychologist.

    “One of these, Dr. Aphrodite Clamar, had worked extensively with Hopkins and was a very fine and highly professional psychologist”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:1338-1454 observation first hand

  21. 21

    Budd Hopkins recalled that Dr. Donald Klein of the New York State Psychiatric Institute had expressed interest in and appeared open-minded about the visitor phenomenon.

    “Hopkins remembered that Dr. Donald Klein of the New York State Psychiatric Institute had expressed interest in the phenomenon and appeared to be open-minded about it.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:1559-1722 testimony second hand

  22. 22

    Budd Hopkins remarked during the March 1, 1986 hypnosis session that beginning moments of such experiences are often the worst and it gets easier afterward.

    “Budd Hopkins responded. "It's often like this. Beginning moments are the worst. And after that, it gets easier."”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:17679-17783 opinion first hand

  23. 23

    Budd Hopkins asked Annie Gottlieb what she would have to do to make the sound Whitley Strieber described, and she said pushing a big, heavy door back against a wall would make a similar bang.

    “When I asked Annie Gottlieb what she would have to do to make the sound — I said, 'Suppose you were given resources to make the sound. She said, 'If you had a big, heavy door and you pushed it back against the wall, *bang*, like that —'”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:33225-33454 testimony second hand

  24. 24

    Anne Strieber described the explosion sound as like something hitting something, almost like an explosion.

    “And your Anne said it was like something hitting something. Almost like an explosion.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:33502-33577 testimony second hand

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    Annie Gottlieb described the sound of the explosion as having a slapping quality.

    “Annie Gottlieb said it had a slapping sound —”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:33810-33848 testimony second hand

  26. 26

    Budd Hopkins noted that four different people independently came up with descriptions of the same explosion sound.

    “We've got four different people to come up with a description of the sound.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:34010-34079 observation first hand

  27. 27

    Whitley Strieber avoided reading about close encounters or psychosocial explanations for such experiences during the four days between hypnosis sessions, on the advice of Dr. Donald Klein and Budd Hopkins.

    “It was a great effort not to go to the library and get half a dozen books about close encounters, and another half dozen about possible psychosocial causes for such experiences. But I agreed with Dr. Klein and Budd Hopkins that I must remain as ignorant of this material as possible until after my hypnosis.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:41438-41736 testimony first hand

  28. 28

    Budd Hopkins told Whitley Strieber that first hypnosis sessions were often traumatic because the recovered memories are buried due to being frightful.

    “Budd Hopkins told me that first hypnosis sessions were often traumatic. These memories are buried for a reason: They are frightful in the extreme.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:42838-42976 testimony second hand

  29. 29

    Budd Hopkins was present during the March 5, 1986 hypnosis session covering December 26 and was permitted to question Whitley Strieber under rules agreed to in the previous session.

    “Again, Budd Hopkins was present and allowed to question me under the same rules agreed to in the previous session.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:44102-44208 administrative first hand

  30. 30

    Budd Hopkins told Whitley Strieber during hypnosis that spontaneous age shifts are a common phenomenon in hypnosis, in which a subject sees something previously seen, or something similar, prompting recall of an earlier age.

    “"That occurs in hypnosis. We have these spontaneous age shifts. Frequently what will happen is that somebody will under hypnosis see something they've seen before, or something like it, and age shift will occur."”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:67217-67421 opinion first hand

  31. 31

    The day before Whitley Strieber met Budd Hopkins, he almost jumped out a window.

    “The day before I met Budd Hopkins I almost jumped out a window.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:13213-13269 testimony first hand

  32. 32

    Whitley Strieber found he could not adequately communicate to Budd Hopkins and Dr. Donald Klein how special the mental image seemed to him.

    “Despite my attempts to explain it to Budd Hopkins and Don Klein, I could not succeed in communicating to others just how special it seemed to me to be.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:104369-104517 testimony first hand

  33. 33

    Budd Hopkins suggested that Whitley Strieber get an artist to render the mental image of the visitor.

    “Budd Hopkins suggested that I get an artist to render the image.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:107134-107192 testimony first hand

  34. 34

    Of the roughly one hundred cases Budd Hopkins provided to Whitley Strieber, four (including Strieber) reported intrusions in or behind the ear.

    “Of his hundred cases, four including me reported intrusions in or behind the ear”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:33478-33555 measurement second hand

  35. 35

    Of the roughly one hundred cases Budd Hopkins provided to Whitley Strieber, three reported intrusions under the eye.

    “three under the eve”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:33560-33576 measurement second hand

  36. 36

    Of the roughly one hundred cases Budd Hopkins provided to Whitley Strieber, eleven (including Strieber) reported intrusions up the nose.

    “eleven, again including me, up the nose”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:33585-33620 measurement second hand

  37. 37

    Whitley Strieber did not remember the memory of being taken from the train when Budd Hopkins asked him if he remembered anything in the past.

    “When Budd Hopkins asked me if I remembered anything in the past, I did mention a few odd incidents. The memory of being taken from the train was not among them.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:456-611 testimony first hand

  38. 38

    Budd Hopkins wanted Whitley Strieber to cover the October or November 1984 fogbank incident first in hypnosis, because of its similarity to a common abduction scenario involving removal of the subject from a moving car.

    “Budd Hopkins had wanted me to cover this incident first, before any further hypnosis, because of its similarity to one of the most common abduction scenarios. the removal of' the subject from a moving car.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:70955-71156 testimony second hand

  39. 39

    Under hypnosis conducted by Budd Hopkins, Anne Strieber recalled that Whitley Strieber left their bed and went downstairs during the night of the October 4, 1985 abduction experience.

    “"Whitley kept going. Kept leaving."”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:21326-21351 testimony first hand

  40. 40

    Under hypnosis conducted by Budd Hopkins, Anne Strieber recalled an incident on LaGuardia Place in which she was thumped or poked in the stomach with a sensation like four fingers, which woke her up.

    “"Like a sharp jab in the stomach, right here. ... And it was like four fingers, not just one finger. It was — *oof!* ... Woke me right up."”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:33146-33309 testimony first hand

  41. 41

    Robert Naiman, when he conducted Anne Strieber's second hypnosis session, had not been informed of the results of Anne Strieber's first hypnosis session conducted by Budd Hopkins.

    “was hypnotized by Dr. Naiman, who still had not been informed of the results of my sessions.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:37534-37617 administrative first hand

  42. 42

    Budd Hopkins was present at Anne Strieber's hypnosis session, and questions he asked during the session are identified with his name while all other questions were asked by Dr. Robert Naiman.

    “Budd Hopkins was present at Anne's session. Questions asked by him are identified with his name. All other questions were asked by Dr. Naiman.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:4102-4237 administrative first hand

  43. 43

    During the March 17, 1986 hypnosis session, Budd Hopkins set a ground rule that Anne Strieber should not worry about saying anything she thought Whitley Strieber or Budd Hopkins wanted her to say.

    “Budd Hopkins: "A basic ground rule today: Don't worry about saying anything you think Whitley or I may want you to say."”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:41327-41427 administrative first hand

  44. 44

    During the March 17, 1986 hypnosis session, Budd Hopkins took over the questioning from Robert Naiman after Anne Strieber entered a trance.

    “I'm going to change places with Budd and he'll take over questioning.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:42648-42705 administrative

  45. 45

    During a hypnosis session conducted by Robert Naiman and Budd Hopkins about the events of December 26, 1985, Anne Strieber referred to Whitley Strieber talking about a crystal in the sky.

    “When Dr. Naiman and Budd Hopkins moved to the events of December 26, there was a flavor of what it must be like living with all these strange secrets when she made reference to my talking about the crystal in the sky.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:60945-61158 testimony second hand

  46. 46

    Whitley Strieber initially hid his abduction-related memories from Anne Strieber and their son and instead sought professional help from Budd Hopkins.

    “my initial impulse was to hide everything, and when I could not do that I sought professional help through Budd Hopkins. I told Anne nothing and our son less than nothing.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:939-1102 testimony first hand

  47. 47

    Budd Hopkins said it is very common for abductees to report that the visitors (nonhuman beings) seem afraid of humans.

    “Budd: "It's very common that people say that they've felt they're afraid of us."”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:101006-101075 opinion first hand

  48. 48

    An abductee gave calcinated earth from her backyard to Budd Hopkins, who has no access to classification procedures.

    “one "abductee" gave the calcinated earth from her backyard to Budd Hopkins, who has no access to classification procedures.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:38412-38524 testimony

  49. 49

    Laboratory analysis of the calcinated dirt given to Budd Hopkins indicated it had been subjected to intense heat, and comparable dirt from the same garden had to be burned for eight hours at 800 degrees Fahrenheit (approximately 427 degrees Celsius) to achieve a similar effect, with no evidence of a lightning strike or storm activity on the night the calcination occurred.

    “Laboratory analysis of the dirt indicated that it had been subjected to intense heat. Dirt from the same garden had to be burned for eight hours at 800 degrees to achieve a similar effect, and there was no site evidence at all of a lightning strike or even of storm activity on the night the calcination occurred.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:38536-38840 measurement

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    Budd Hopkins has dealt with more than a hundred cases of people who encountered the visitors and understands the pattern of their response.

    “Budd Hopkins has developed great sensitivity to the problems people face after they encounter the visitors. He has dealt with more than a hundred cases, and knows the pattern of response.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:53524-53702 administrative first hand

  51. 51

    Budd Hopkins told Whitley Strieber that everybody in the support group half believes they are dreaming up the experiences, and that this is the healthiest way, and that nobody is going to show him an extraterrestrial belt buckle.

    “"Don't worry," he said, "everybody half believes that they're dreaming all of this up. And that's the healthiest way. Nobody is going to show you an extraterrestrial belt buckle and blow your mind."”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:53845-54036 testimony second hand

  52. 52

    On the night of April 13, 1986, eleven people met at the home of Budd Hopkins, selected on the basis that they lived in the New York area and could attend.

    “On the night of April 13, 1986, eleven of us met at the home of Budd Hopkins. We were selected simply on the basis of the fact that we live in the New York area and could come.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:59262-59433 administrative first hand

  53. 53

    The April 13, 1986 colloquy at Budd Hopkins' home included only two participants using their real names: Whitley Strieber and Budd Hopkins; all other participants used pseudonyms.

    “Needless to say, none of these people would allow his or her name to be used. The only real names in the colloquy are thus my own and that of Budd Hopkins.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:60163-60310 administrative first hand

  54. 54

    Budd Hopkins obtained a sample of calcinated earth from Mary's backyard.

    “(It was from her yard that Budd Hopkins obtained the sample of calcinated earth.)”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:75859-75932 administrative

  55. 55

    Budd Hopkins recounted that when Mark's partner heard him describe the place from his age-ten experience, which under hypnosis turned out to be a thing rather than a place, she expressed relief because she had spent seven years searching for what she believed was a real tunnel.

    “When Mark's lady was present when he described this place he was when he was ten, which turned out under hypnosis not to be a place but a thing, more or less, she said with great relief, 'I've spent seven years with him looking for that place... Than God I don't have to look for it anymore. The mystery's solved.'”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:93600-93956 testimony second hand

  56. 56

    Budd Hopkins recounted that Pat, under hypnosis, remembered a needle going in under her eye, and that a neurosurgeon noted this pointed toward the region of the optic nerve, commenting that it would be remarkable if one could see through people's eyes.

    “One very strange thing that Pat remembered — the thing of the needle going in under the eye... The neurosurgeon said that is going into the region of the optic nerve, and he said, 'Wouldn't it be wild if you could see through people's eyes?'”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:97111-97391 testimony second hand

  57. 57

    Budd Hopkins is a well-known abstract artist whose work is collected by the Guggenheim and the Whitney.

    “Anne and I are interested in art and Hopkins is a well-known abstract artist, collected by the Guggenheim and the Whitney.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:44619-44733 administrative first hand

  58. 58

    Whitley Strieber called Budd Hopkins by phone, who listened to his story and then invited him to come over immediately.

    “I called Budd Hopkins. He answered the phone and listened to my story for a few minutes... Could I come over — like right now?”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:45093-45182 testimony first hand

  59. 59

    Budd Hopkins's apartment in New York City was a ten minute walk from Whitley Strieber's home.

    “It turned out that his place in the city was a ten minute walk from mine.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:45308-45376 observation first hand

  60. 60

    Budd Hopkins told Whitley Strieber during their first meeting that he was not a therapist but could refer him to one.

    “The moment our interview began, Hopkins explained that he was not a therapist but he could put me in touch with one if I wanted that.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:45565-45693 testimony first hand

  61. 61

    During his first meeting with Budd Hopkins, Whitley Strieber recalled a memory of the night the house burned down, though it did not actually burn down.

    “After a moment's reflection, I blurted out, "I seem to remember a night the house burned down. But it didn't burn down."”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:46267-46382 testimony first hand

  62. 62

    Budd Hopkins told Whitley Strieber that, based on his experience, the October events may have been caused by the same agency responsible for the December 26 disturbance.

    “He'd said that judging from his experience, the October events may have been caused by the same agency that was responsible for the disturbance of December 26.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:46945-47101 opinion second hand

  63. 63

    Budd Hopkins suggested to Whitley Strieber that he ask his son about dreams rather than memories.

    “This answer, I must admit, shocked me badly. I left off questioning him and called Budd Hopkins, who suggested that I ask my son not about memories but about dreams.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:55938-56096 testimony second hand

  64. 64

    Whitley Strieber had promised Budd Hopkins that he would not read anything about unidentified flying objects (UFOs).

    “I had promised Hopkins that I wouldn't read anything about unidentified flying objects.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:64731-64810 testimony first hand

  65. 65

    Even after talking to Budd Hopkins, Whitley Strieber was not willing to ascribe his experiences to the unidentified flying object (UFO) phenomenon and had no idea what had happened that night.

    “Even after talking to Hopkins, I was by no means willing to ascribe my experiences to the UFO phenomenon. I wanted to be quite clear: I had no idea what had gone on that night.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:65425-65595 opinion first hand

  66. 66

    In preparing for the reading with Laura Lynne Jackson, Leslie Kean focused on two people close to her who had recently died: her friend Budd Hopkins and her brother, Lloyd Garrison Kean.

    “In preparing for the reading with Laura, I focused on two people close to me who had recently died—my dear friend Budd Hopkins, an accomplished abstract expressionist painter and UFO researcher, and my brother, Lloyd Garrison Kean.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:10173-10399 testimony first hand

  67. 67

    Budd Hopkins was an accomplished abstract expressionist painter and UFO researcher.

    “my dear friend Budd Hopkins, an accomplished abstract expressionist painter and UFO researcher”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:10272-10356 administrative

  68. 68

    Laura Lynne Jackson told Leslie Kean the male spirit present was older, perhaps by twelve to fifteen years, that he had died two to three years earlier, and that he and Kean were not married, all of which were accurate to Budd Hopkins.

    “She told me that he was older, maybe by twelve to fifteen years; that he “crossed” two to three years ago, and that we were not married. These all were accurate to Budd Hopkins.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:12278-12447 testimony second hand

  69. 69

    During the reading, Laura Lynne Jackson said she saw a big "B" name that was short, like Bub or Bubba, a nickname with another name too; Budd Hopkins's middle name Budd was used as his nickname, though Jackson perceived the sound "b" rather than "d".

    “She said, “I see a big ‘B’—a ‘B’ name. It’s short, like Bub or Bubba. It’s like a nickname; there’s another name too.” (“Budd” was his middle name, used as a nickname. She had the sound “b” rather than “d.”)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:12586-12789 testimony second hand

  70. 70

    Toward the end of his life, before entering hospice with two types of cancer, Budd Hopkins was given books by Leslie Kean about evidence suggesting death may not be the end, including Old Souls by Washington Post journalist Tom Shroder, who travelled with Ian Stevenson and watched him work.

    “I carefully selected a few books that I thought might appeal to him, one of them being *Old Souls* by *Washington Post* journalist Tom Shroder, who traveled with Ian Stevenson and watched him work.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:13438-13630 testimony first hand

  71. 71

    Budd Hopkins told Leslie Kean he did not want to read the books she gave him about survival of death because he did not believe in any sort of afterlife and considered this one life to be it.

    “when I next saw him, he told me that he didn’t want to read them because he didn’t believe in any sort of afterlife. This one life was it.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:13887-14022 testimony second hand

  72. 72

    During the reading, when Laura Lynne Jackson said the male spirit's first message was "You were right," Leslie Kean immediately understood this to refer to Budd Hopkins's earlier disbelief in an afterlife, and Jackson confirmed it.

    “When Laura said he burst in and the first thing he said was “You were right,” I immediately knew this was what he meant. And then Laura confirmed it.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:14280-14426 testimony second hand

  73. 73

    During the reading, Laura Lynne Jackson conveyed that the male spirit died from cancer and that Leslie Kean was with him when he died.

    “that he died from cancer and that I was with him when he died”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:14605-14662 testimony second hand

  74. 74

    During the reading, Laura Lynne Jackson conveyed that the male spirit had one child, a daughter, and that his third marriage was one of his biggest regrets.

    “that he had one child, a daughter; that his third marriage was one of his biggest regrets”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:14668-14750 testimony second hand

  75. 75

    During the reading, Laura Lynne Jackson conveyed that the male spirit died toward the end of August, on the twenty-fourth, and that his lungs were filled with fluid due to severe pneumonia.

    “that he died toward the end of August (the twenty-fourth, to be exact); that his lungs were filled with fluid (he had severe pneumonia), and much more.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:14759-14905 testimony second hand

  76. 76

    Later in the reading, Laura Lynne Jackson corrected her first impression of the name to "Buddy" and said she was also getting an "E" for his name; Budd Hopkins's full name was Elliott Budd Hopkins.

    “Later in the reading, she corrected her first impression of his name and said it was “Buddy” and that she was also getting an “E” for his name. I found this extraordinary—his full name was Elliott Budd Hopkins.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:15015-15217 testimony second hand

  77. 77

    During the reading, Laura Lynne Jackson said Budd Hopkins mentioned Leslie Kean's sister, saying she lived in New York and had an "L" name, which was correct and Budd knew her.

    “She said that Budd mentioned my sister, saying that she lived in New York and had an “L” name. (This was also correct; Budd knew her.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:15226-15355 testimony second hand

  78. 78

    During the reading, Laura Lynne Jackson perceived a big ego in the male spirit, to the extent that he did not respect her wishes to step back and "was not behaving," consistent with Budd Hopkins's personality of loving to talk about himself and dominate any gathering.

    “Laura said she could perceive a big ego there, to the extent that he did not respect her wishes to step back a bit, and “was not behaving.”... As I knew Budd, he loved to talk about himself and be the center of attention. He would usually dominate any gathering he attended, often not really listening or responding to what anyone else said, but preferring to be the talker.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:15628-16039 testimony second hand

  79. 79

    During Leslie Kean's reading with Laura Lynne Jackson, Laura Lynne Jackson experienced a big difference between the personalities of Budd Hopkins and Leslie Kean's brother Garry as they communicated.

    “Confirming my own perceptions, Laura told me without my prompting that she experienced a big difference between Budd’s and my brother’s personalities.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:20029-20165 opinion first hand

  80. 80

    Laura Lynne Jackson compared the communication style of Budd Hopkins to someone shouting clearly, describing it as direct thought statements.

    “Budd shouted. ... He also communicated to me more in feeling impressions than the way Budd chose to communicate—which was more direct thought ‘statements.’”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:20322-20551 opinion first hand

  81. 81

    During Leslie Kean's reading with Laura Lynne Jackson, both Budd Hopkins and Leslie Kean's brother Garry provided at least one very personal detail, among many factual details, that Laura Lynne Jackson could not have known.

    “What was most important was that both had provided at least one very personal detail, among many, many factual details, that Laura couldn’t possibly have known.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:20712-20866 observation first hand

  82. 82

    In both the reading with Laura Lynne Jackson and with Sandra O'Hara, Budd Hopkins appeared first and dominated the session, described as assertive and clear, while Leslie Kean's brother was withdrawn, quieter, and harder to read, appearing only at the end of each reading.

    “In both cases, the mediums said Budd was assertive and clear, but my brother was withdrawn and harder to read, as if the same two distinct personalities were present in each reading. Both times, Budd appeared first, and did all he could to hog the stage.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:10042-10290 observation first hand

  83. 83

    Sandra O'Hara laughed at Budd Hopkins's dominating behaviour during the reading and said it was quite unusual, saying "Today was his show...He was saying, 'I'm here! I have the floor! I'm talking!'"

    “Echoing Laura, Sandra laughed at his dominating behavior, and said it was quite unusual. “Today was his show,” she said. “He was saying, ‘I’m here! I have the floor! I’m talking!’ ””

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:10297-10467 testimony second hand

  84. 84

    Laura Lynne Jackson described Budd Hopkins's dominating behaviour in almost exactly the same words as Sandra O'Hara did.

    “Laura described his behavior in almost exactly the same words.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:10479-10535 observation first hand

  85. 85

    For about a week prior to her second reading (with Sandra O'Hara), Leslie Kean mentally directed thoughts to Budd Hopkins and her brother asking them to come through again and repeat something they had said in the reading with Laura Lynne Jackson.

    “So, for about a week prior to my second reading, I earnestly sent the following thoughts to both Budd and my brother: Will you each please come through again with Sandra? And will you each say something to Sandra that is exactly the same as what you said to Laura?”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:1960-2225 testimony first hand

  86. 86

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara stated that a male spirit died of cancer, corresponding to Budd Hopkins who died of complications from two types of cancer.

    “He died of cancer. (Budd died of complications due to two types of cancer.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:4235-4303 testimony second hand

  87. 87

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said the male spirit had one other important female in his life, corresponding to Budd Hopkins's daughter to whom he was close.

    “He had one other important female in his life. (He had one daughter he was close to.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:4316-4398 testimony second hand

  88. 88

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said Leslie Kean and another woman important to Budd Hopkins were with him when he died, corresponding to Leslie Kean and his daughter being present at his death.

    “I and another woman important to him were with him when he died. (His daughter and I were there at the moment he died.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:4407-4521 testimony second hand

  89. 89

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said the word "April" was a reference to something significant, corresponding to Budd Hopkins's second wife April.

    “The word “April” is a reference to something significant. (Budd’s second wife, his daughter’s mother, was named April.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:4532-4645 testimony second hand

  90. 90

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said the male spirit was an artist, seeing paintings and a paintbrush in his hand, corresponding to Budd Hopkins being an established painter whose work was in major museum collections.

    “He was an artist—“I see paintings and paintbrush in his hand.” (Budd was an established painter whose work was in the collections of major museums. This was his main career—the UFO work came later.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:4657-4849 testimony second hand

  91. 91

    Budd Hopkins was an established painter whose work was held in the collections of major museums, and painting was his main career, with his UFO investigation work coming later.

    “(Budd was an established painter whose work was in the collections of major museums. This was his main career—the UFO work came later.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:4722-4849 administrative first hand

  92. 92

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said that work brought Leslie Kean and the male spirit together through a similar passion, corresponding to Leslie Kean and Budd Hopkins meeting at a UFO conference.

    “Work brought us together—we had a similar passion. (I first met Budd at a UFO conference and then in New York to discuss a case of his that interested me.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:4861-5013 testimony second hand

  93. 93

    Leslie Kean first met Budd Hopkins at a UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) conference and then met him again in New York to discuss one of his cases that interested her.

    “I first met Budd at a UFO conference and then in New York to discuss a case of his that interested me.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:4914-5013 administrative first hand

  94. 94

    Budd Hopkins had been a UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) investigator for two decades by the time he met Leslie Kean.

    “He had been a UFO investigator for two decades, and I had been reporting on UFOs for about four years.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:5017-5113 administrative first hand

  95. 95

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara referenced the "star people" as a connection, corresponding to Budd Hopkins's focus on people who claimed encounters with extraterrestrial beings.

    “The “star people”—this connects you. (Budd’s focus was on people who claimed to have had encounters with extraterrestrial beings—“star people”—and the work connected us.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:5125-5292 testimony second hand

  96. 96

    Budd Hopkins's investigative focus was on people who claimed to have had encounters with extraterrestrial beings, referred to as "star people."

    “(Budd’s focus was on people who claimed to have had encounters with extraterrestrial beings—“star people”—and the work connected us.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:5164-5292 administrative first hand

  97. 97

    Budd Hopkins's actual first name was Elliott, also spelled with two t's, matching the name spoken in the E.T. movie reference during Sandra O'Hara's reading.

    “This was Budd’s actual first name, also spelled with two t’s.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:5563-5622 administrative first hand

  98. 98

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said the male spirit died shortly after a milestone birthday ending with a zero, corresponding to Budd Hopkins dying two months after his eightieth birthday.

    “He died shortly after a milestone birthday—one ending with a zero. (Budd died two months after his eightieth birthday.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:5705-5815 testimony second hand

  99. 99

    Budd Hopkins died two months after his eightieth birthday.

    “(Budd died two months after his eightieth birthday.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:5774-5815 administrative first hand

  100. 100

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said the male spirit was a New Yorker, corresponding to Budd Hopkins having lived in New York since the 1950s.

    “He was a New Yorker. (He had lived in New York since the 1950s.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:5831-5889 testimony second hand

  101. 101

    Budd Hopkins had lived in New York since the 1950s.

    “(He had lived in New York since the 1950s.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:5854-5889 administrative first hand

  102. 102

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said there was a property problem after the male spirit's death that he was unhappy about, corresponding to a dispute over selling the town house Budd Hopkins had lived in for fifty years.

    “There was a problem with property after he died and he’s unhappy with that. (His daughter was trying to sell the town house he had lived in for fifty years and was having serious problems with the co-owner who didn’t want to sell.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:5902-6128 testimony second hand

  103. 103

    Budd Hopkins's daughter tried to sell the town house he had lived in for fifty years and had serious problems with the co-owner, who did not want to sell.

    “(His daughter was trying to sell the town house he had lived in for fifty years and was having serious problems with the co-owner who didn’t want to sell.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:5980-6128 administrative first hand

  104. 104

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara described a hammer and chisel image, saying the male spirit was making something, corresponding to Budd Hopkins also being a sculptor.

    “A hammer and chisel—he’s making something. (Budd was also a sculptor.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:6418-6479 testimony second hand

  105. 105

    Budd Hopkins was also a sculptor.

    “(Budd was also a sculptor.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:6463-6479 administrative first hand

  106. 106

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said the male spirit had more than one lady and was popular, more than flirtatious, corresponding to Budd Hopkins having been married three times and having had many affairs.

    “He had more than one lady and was popular—it was more than flirtatious. (He was married three times and had many affairs.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:6495-6609 testimony second hand

  107. 107

    Budd Hopkins was married three times and had many affairs.

    “(He was married three times and had many affairs.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:6569-6609 administrative first hand

  108. 108

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said the male spirit's biggest connection of all was to Leslie Kean, corresponding to Budd Hopkins having told Leslie Kean this many times while alive.

    “His biggest connection of all was to me. (He told me this many times.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:6624-6688 testimony second hand

  109. 109

    Budd Hopkins told Leslie Kean many times while he was alive that his biggest connection was to her.

    “(He told me this many times.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:6667-6688 testimony first hand

  110. 110

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said the male spirit had one child, corresponding to Budd Hopkins having one daughter and no stepchildren.

    “He had one child. (He had a daughter; no stepchildren.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:6701-6743 testimony second hand

  111. 111

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara referenced the song "Amazing Grace" as significant, corresponding to Budd Hopkins's daughter being named Grace.

    “Referring to a name, the song “Amazing Grace” is significant. (His daughter’s name is Grace.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:6878-6965 testimony second hand

  112. 112

    Budd Hopkins's daughter was named Grace.

    “(His daughter’s name is Grace.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:6942-6965 administrative first hand

  113. 113

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said she heard "Bubby," corresponding to the name "Budd."

    “I hear “Bubby.” (The name “Budd.”)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:6978-7006 testimony second hand

  114. 114

    Vincent van Gogh was Leslie Kean's favourite artist, and she and Budd Hopkins used to visit two museums in New York to see van Gogh's paintings including Starry Night.

    “(Van Gogh was my favorite artist. We used to go to two museums in New York to see this painting and others.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:7062-7161 testimony first hand

  115. 115

    During the reading, Sandra O'Hara said Budd Hopkins told Leslie Kean "You are right. You are right!" and "Proof...something tangible is coming."

    “Sandra told me that Budd said, “You are right. You are right!” He then said, “Proof…something tangible is coming.””

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:7341-7447 testimony second hand

  116. 116

    Late in the reading, when Leslie Kean asked for the other male spirit present at the beginning to come through, Sandra O'Hara said "Elliott likes to be center stage and take up all the time!" with a laugh, similar to a remark Laura Lynne Jackson had made.

    “(“Elliott likes to be center stage and take up all the time!” Sandra explained with a laugh, just like Laura had said.)”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:7735-7846 testimony second hand

  117. 117

    Budd Hopkins had said "You were right" twice with strength and emphasis during Leslie Kean's earlier reading with Laura Lynne Jackson.

    “With Laura, Budd said “You were right” twice, with strength and emphasis.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:9447-9511 testimony first hand

  118. 118

    With Sandra O'Hara, Budd Hopkins again said "You are right" twice, emphatically and in a similar tone to his statement in the earlier reading with Laura Lynne Jackson.

    “Remarkably, with Sandra he also said “You are right” twice, again emphatically, in a similar tone.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch24:9521-9616 observation first hand

  119. 119

    Laura Lynne Jackson and Sandra O'Hara provided mediumship readings for Leslie Kean that included recognisable personality traits and numerous accurate facts about her brother Garry Kean and her close friend Budd Hopkins.

    “Mediums Laura Lynne Jackson (TOP LEFT) and Sandra O'Hara (BOTTOM RIGHT) provided readings for me, which included recognizable personality traits and numerous accurate facts about my brother Garry Kean (ABOVE at age 12) and close friend Budd Hopkins (below), who both died within recent years.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch32:11-299 observation first hand

  120. 120

    Garry Kean and Budd Hopkins both died within recent years of the reading.

    “who both died within recent years”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch32:271-299 observation first hand

  121. 121

    In 1991, after a flurry of works about alien abductions had been published by John Mack, Budd Hopkins, and others, the practice of hypnotic regression came under scrutiny.

    “In 1991, not long after a flurry of works about alien abductions had been published by Mack, New York City artist Budd Hopkins, and others, the practice of hypnotic regression came under scrutiny.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch4:45229-45416 observation

  122. 122

    Budd Hopkins was a New York City artist.

    “New York City artist Budd Hopkins”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch4:45322-45348 administrative

  123. 123

    The producers of Alien Encounters from Tomorrowland used experts like artist Budd Hopkins, who used hypnotic regression to access memories of abductions.

    “The producers used “experts” like artist Budd Hopkins, who used hypnotic regression to access memories of abductions, and included footage of military bases, thus lending the project an air of credibility.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch4:49677-49870 administrative

  124. 124

    As part of the ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter ride, Budd Hopkins showed children cards featuring aliens, causing some to scream and hug their parents in terror.

    “as Budd Hopkins shows children cards featuring aliens, they scream and hug their parents in terror.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch4:52210-52302 observation

  125. 125

    David Halperin noted that Budd Hopkins calls the terrified reactions of children to the ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter ride 'moving.'

    “Halperin notes that Hopkins calls this “moving.””

    American Cosmic 2019 ch4:52310-52350 opinion second hand

  126. 126

    An anonymous US Air Force sergeant, relaying an account to Budd Hopkins, claimed the CIA's film showed a 'huge, hovering, windowed craft' filling the entire movie screen, with three smaller UAP attached to it as a 'kind of tail'.

    “He claimed that the CIA's film showed a 'huge, hovering, windowed craft' filling the entire movie screen, with three smaller UAPs attached to it as a 'kind of tail'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:10079-10238 hearsay second hand

  127. 127

    According to the account relayed by an anonymous US Air Force sergeant to Budd Hopkins, when a door on the largest object in the 1967 Central Intelligence Agency film opened, the three smaller craft flew inside, and the large object then 'canted at an angle, then disappeared in seconds'.

    “When a door on the largest object opened, the three smaller craft flew inside. Then the large object 'canted at an angle, then disappeared in seconds'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:10245-10387 hearsay second hand

  128. 128

    Budd Hopkins introduced Ted Jacobs to Whitley Strieber.

    “this is a drawing made by Ted Jacobs who I also introduced to Whitley Strieber”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:00:27.6-00:00:33.1 administrative first hand

  129. 129

    Ted Jacobs made a pastel drawing for the cover of one of Whitley Strieber's books.

    “he had Ted do the drawing for his cover of his books a pastel”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:00:33.8-00:00:37.6 administrative first hand

  130. 130

    Ted Jacobs made drawings of the alien figures described to Budd Hopkins by an abductee.

    “the man that I had been describing had Ted make the drawings of these figures”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:00:39.5-00:00:43.9 administrative first hand

  131. 131

    Kathy Davis made a drawing of an alien figure that was compared alongside a similar drawing by an independent witness.

    “the drawing on the right was done by Kathy Davis the one on the left was drawn by a woman from North Carolina who had a UFO experience”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:01:02.4-00:01:08.5 administrative first hand

  132. 132

    A woman from North Carolina who had a UFO experience made a drawing of an alien figure without ever having seen Kathy Davis's drawing of a similar figure, and the two drawings closely resembled each other.

    “the woman who had made the drawing on the left had never seen the one on the right...she took one look at the two together and came up to me after the lecture and tears were running down her face”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:01:15.3-00:01:26.5 testimony first hand

  133. 133

    Abductees typically describe the humanoid figures they encountered as ranging in height from approximately 0.9 metres to nearly 1.5 metres.

    “these people were describing figures again who roughly the descriptions run from very small three feet or so to maybe up to almost five feet”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:01:43.6-00:01:52.7 observation first hand

  134. 134

    A drawing associated with an abduction case in Canada depicted a figure with eyes that wrapped around the side of its head.

    “this is a drawing involving a case in in Canada and the woman gave us a nice side view to show that the eyes wrapped around the side”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:01:55.5-00:02:04.6 observation first hand

  135. 135

    In alien abduction cases, the process by which memory of the experience is suppressed appears to be imperfect, sometimes leaving partial conscious recollection rather than complete memory loss.

    “this is part of the vagaries of recollection of these cases it's as if the wiping out of the memory is an imperfect science as far as they're concerned they seem to be able to block the memory but not always exactly”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:02:10.5-00:02:22.5 opinion first hand

  136. 136

    One abductee experienced a missing-time period of approximately two hours during an abduction, but afterward forgot all events of the entire following week while continuing to go about his normal daily activities.

    “one man had an abduction experience which involved a missing time period of about two hours but subsequently he forgot all the events of the whole week...he went to work he came home his family were in touch with him”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:02:30.2-00:02:46.1 testimony first hand

  137. 137

    A woman who was abducted as a child, around eight or nine years old, near the outskirts of Toronto, consciously recalled walking outside at night and seeing an illuminated square doorway against a black mass, with two small beings standing at it.

    “she woke up in the middle night in the farm in near Toronto outskirts found herself actually compelled to get that go downstairs and go outside...she saw this illuminated square form against a black mass and it turned out to be a doorway and an object and there were these two little people standing there”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:03:01.0-00:03:23.3 testimony first hand

  138. 138

    The Toronto-area abductee consciously recalled refusing to get onto an examination table and then finding herself walking back to her house, but hypnosis later revealed that she had in fact been placed on the table many times.

    “she took one look at the table and this implication of helplessness and so forth and said no way am I getting on that table and the next thing she knew she was walking back up the road to the house...the part she didn't remember is that she ended up on the table many times”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:03:37.8-00:03:55.0 testimony first hand

  139. 139

    The woman in the Erie, Pennsylvania case awoke to find tree branches outside her window broken, with no conscious recollection of what had happened.

    “the next thing she knew, she was back in bed and had no recollection of what happened except that the branches were broken.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:04:29.8-00:04:37.6 testimony first hand

  140. 140

    The woman in the Erie, Pennsylvania case recalled being returned to the windowsill of her second-story bedroom window and watching the craft move away.

    “They put her back on the windowsill, the second story window, and she remembered sitting on the windowsill and watching this thing moving away.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:04:51.5-00:04:57.4 testimony first hand

  141. 141

    Kathy Davis made a small ceramic sculpture of the being who is the central figure described in Intruders.

    “this is a little sculpture by Kathy Davis, the central figure in Intruders. She made it of ceramic afterwards”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:05:09.4-00:05:18.9 administrative first hand

  142. 142

    When abductees in Budd Hopkins's support group first saw Kathy Davis's ceramic sculpture of the being, they reacted with visible discomfort and reluctance to look at it.

    “when the first couple of abductees walked in, everybody sort of jumped looking at it, didn't like looking at it.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:05:27.6-00:05:33.3 observation first hand

  143. 143

    An abductee told Budd Hopkins that if he saw the beings enter his bedroom while a gun lay on his bedside table, he would use the gun to kill himself rather than to shoot them, because of the terror the experience caused, an event that had actually happened to him without the gun present.

    “if I were in my bed and I have a gun on my bed table and I saw them come in the door, which had happened to him in his bedroom...He said I'd pick up the gun and kill myself...Not them. Himself. Because the terror was that great.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:06:05.5-00:06:23.2 testimony first hand

  144. 144

    Budd Hopkins is convinced that in at least three cases, a person was driven to suicide as a result of their UFO abduction experiences.

    “I have at least three cases where I'm absolutely convinced that a person was tipped over the edge into suicide because of their UFO experiences.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:06:33.9-00:06:41.4 opinion first hand

  145. 145

    Kathy Davis said the ceramic figure's head was tilted back because in her recollections the being was small and was always looking up at her.

    “I said Cathy why do you have the head inclined back looking like that she said well that's why I always see him he's only this big and he's always looking up at me it's realism”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:06:50.3-00:07:00.6 testimony second hand

  146. 146

    Budd Hopkins has documented alien abduction cases occurring within Manhattan, New York City.

    “I have within Manhattan itself some abductions.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:07:09.0-00:07:11.9 administrative first hand

  147. 147

    In one case, a craft described as perfectly black descended at night above a building, and an abductee was taken up by a beam of light through their apartment building's window.

    “A craft has come down perfectly black, dark at night, right above a building and a person has taken up a beam right out through their apartment building or whatever.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:07:13.4-00:07:23.1 testimony first hand

  148. 148

    A man and his sister, whose father was well known in theatrical circles, were abducted together as young children (about three and five years old) on Christmas Eve in a case documented by Budd Hopkins, after being floated by a beam of light out of their beds while their parents were frozen and unable to move.

    “The father and mother were putting Christmas presents under the tree...suddenly this man...with his sister, they were little tiny, perhaps three and five years old, were just somehow floated out of their beds into the room where the parents were and the parents were frozen. unable to move...taken up a beam of light into the craft”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:07:37.2-00:08:02.6 testimony first hand

  149. 149

    Under hypnosis, the man from the Christmas Eve abduction case recalled comforting his crying sister who was being examined on another table during the abduction.

    “his sister was on another table and she was being examined and was crying and he was trying to comfort her even though he was only say five years old or six years old”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:08:18.6-00:08:28.2 testimony first hand

  150. 150

    Reliving the Christmas Eve abduction under hypnosis as an adult, the man asked "where's Santa Claus?" and burst into tears.

    “he suddenly says where's Santa Claus and burst into tears sobbing and sobbing”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:08:41.4-00:08:46.2 testimony first hand

  151. 151

    A drawing depicts a different abductee's case that occurred in the Bronx, New York.

    “This drawing is made by a man who's experienced a different person occurred in the Bronx, New York.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:08:55.4-00:08:59.7 administrative first hand

  152. 152

    Budd Hopkins has worked with abductees from all boroughs of New York City.

    “I have people from all the boroughs of New York City.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:09:00.0-00:09:03.0 administrative first hand

  153. 153

    Psychological testing of abductees found patterns of deficits similar to those found in tests conducted with rape victims.

    “the patterns that we've gotten psychologically are very similar according to psychologists of the sorts of deficits that turn up in tests done with rape victims”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:09:30.3-00:09:38.2 observation first hand

  154. 154

    Psychologically tested abductees showed a pattern of lowered self-esteem, a great fear about the outer world, and a lack of trust in their own bodies.

    “a sense of lowered self-esteem, a sense of great fear about the outer world, and a sense of not trusting their own bodies, their own physicality.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:09:40.0-00:09:47.0 observation first hand

  155. 155

    Budd Hopkins has never conducted past-life hypnosis regression with abductees.

    “I've never gotten involved in doing past life hypnosis. I take my mysteries one at a time.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:10:01.3-00:10:10.6 administrative first hand

  156. 156

    Budd Hopkins compared his level of trust in anything told to him by an alien to his level of trust in anything told to him by Ed Meese.

    “I would not believe anything I hear from an alien any more than I would believe anything I hear from Ed Meese.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:10:48.1-00:10:52.9 opinion first hand

  157. 157

    Budd Hopkins believes abductees are tracked because of their genetic lineage, being descendants of people who had already been abducted, so that abductions run across generations within a bloodline rather than occurring randomly.

    “the big thing is that we're dealing with people who are being tracked because of their genetic position...they are the daughter or son of somebody who has already been abducted so we're going across generations it doesn't seem to be random that way...they definitely seem to lock on to people who are in a certain bloodline”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:11:12.4-00:11:30.7 opinion first hand

  158. 158

    Budd Hopkins worked with a woman who was first abducted as a child in Ohio, and was later abducted again in Spain and also in Argentina, indicating she continued to be tracked regardless of where she travelled.

    “I have one abductee who I've been working with a young woman who was abducted in Ohio where she was born as a little child several times she went to Spain and was abducted in Spain and she also was in South America in Argentina was abducted there so it didn't make a difference where she went she was being tracked”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:11:53.2-00:12:13.6 testimony first hand

  159. 159

    A woman abductee made a drawing depicting what she was shown at a facility she described as a nursery where fetuses are developed, including an adult-like figure and a small fetus-like being inside a tank-like container.

    “This slide we have here is from a drawing made by a woman who was shown evidently at the nursery where these little fetuses are developed. The figure at the left was her idea of the more adult figure and the little fetus in the foreground fetus-like thing...the little tank is the object in which the thing was floated”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:12:14.6-00:12:36.4 testimony first hand

  160. 160

    Budd Hopkins deliberately left out of his book descriptions of the nursery where abductees say fetuses are developed, despite having collected a number of similar cases.

    “one of the details I kept out of my book are descriptions of the nursery where these little babies are developed which are very similar and I have a number of cases”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:12:43.6-00:12:51.1 administrative first hand

  161. 161

    A man who contacted Budd Hopkins remembered his abduction experiences consciously, without the use of hypnosis, and this is true of many of the cases Hopkins has documented.

    “A man who contacted me a while ago, he did not know I had written a book or anything about this, remembered everything consciously without hypnosis. And this is many, many of these cases.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:12:56.8-00:13:07.6 testimony first hand

  162. 162

    A man told Budd Hopkins that something had been inserted up his nose during an abduction at age five, causing his nose to bleed.

    “He said, Bud, they put something up my nose. made my nosebleed. And he said, I was only five years old.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:13:18.0-00:13:24.5 testimony first hand

  163. 163

    The man's drawing of the figure he recalled having encountered closely resembled drawings made by other abductees collected by Budd Hopkins.

    “I had him make a drawing of the figure that he recalled having been in the craft...when he finished it, it was so much like the others.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:13:34.4-00:13:44.0 observation first hand

  164. 164

    The man recounted details of his abduction that matched material in Budd Hopkins's book Intruders that had not been printed in that book.

    “I opened my book, Intruders, which she did not know about. And he came up with many details in this account that had not been printed in intruders.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:13:47.5-00:13:55.3 testimony first hand

  165. 165

    The man had a scar on his leg that he said resulted from the beings cutting him as a boy, matching a scoop-mark scar Budd Hopkins had previously seen on Kathy Davis.

    “he showed me a scar on his leg he remembered them cutting his leg when he was a little boy and he said you ever heard of anything like that and I said yes I have this these are two scars on the calf the front of the calf of Kathy Davis.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:14:30.4-00:14:46.8 testimony first hand

  166. 166

    Kathy Davis has two scars, called "scoop marks," on the front of her calf, small round depressions smaller than a fingernail resembling marks left by a tool used to remove layers of cells, created at two different times.

    “these are two scars on the calf the front of the calf of Kathy Davis. These are what we call the scoop marks. They're a little round. They're smaller than your little fingernail and they're distinct depressions as if a little almost like ice cream scoop tool was used to remove layers of cells. They were done at two different times.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:14:41.3-00:15:00.4 observation first hand

  167. 167

    A doctor examining Kathy Davis's scoop-mark scar asked whether she had ever had a bone marrow sample taken, being unable otherwise to explain the depression.

    “doctors have been extremely interested in these because one doctor asked her if she'd ever had a bone marrow sample taken or couldn't figure out what would cause this little depression”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:15:04.8-00:15:16.1 testimony first hand

  168. 168

    A scoop mark matching Kathy Davis's scars was also found on the leg of Kathy Davis's mother, appearing across two generations of the same family.

    “this is the leg of her mother talk about the generations this is a close-up in another light of the mark on her mother's leg the scoop mark here two generations of the same family”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:15:18.2-00:15:31.6 observation first hand

  169. 169

    A scoop mark with an adjoining straight-line cut was found on the leg of a woman about 32 years old, resulting from an event when she was about four years old living in France.

    “there's a straight line cut to one side and the scoop mark down at the end of it. This occurred...on the leg of a woman who is now about 32 years old. And this occurred when she was about four living in France.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:15:38.9-00:15:55.2 observation first hand

  170. 170

    A scoop mark was found on the back of a man who was abducted from Brooklyn, New York.

    “This is a close-up of a scoop mark on the back of a man who was abducted from Brooklyn.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:16:02.0-00:16:07.4 observation first hand

  171. 171

    The Brooklyn abductee's mother is American and Black, and his father is from Pakistan.

    “This man's mother is an American and black and his father is from Pakistan.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:16:09.4-00:16:14.1 administrative first hand

  172. 172

    There appear to have been other abductions within the Brooklyn abductee's family, though this has not been thoroughly explored.

    “And there seem to have been other experiences, abductions in that family. It's not yet been thoroughly explored.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:16:15.4-00:16:21.0 observation first hand

  173. 173

    A chemist abductee told Budd Hopkins that he was brought into the abduction location via a beam entering from the top of the room, which was unusual compared to most cases where abductees are typically brought in through the floor.

    “This is a chemist who's abducted...He went up some kind of a beam right out of his car and was brought down into this room from the top of the room. This is very unusual, usually. It's through the floor.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:17:15.9-00:17:28.3 testimony first hand

  174. 174

    The chemist abductee described seeing several nearly identical small gray figures staring up at him dispassionately, showing no emotion, as he was lowered toward a table.

    “standing on this floor, looking up, all these little gray figures, more or less identical, just looking up at him, dispassionately...There was no emotion, no way to read it. They're just dispassionate, just staring.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:17:31.4-00:17:41.0 testimony first hand

  175. 175

    The chemist abductee recalled that his body would not respond to his will during the abduction, being unable even to raise his arm to his face.

    “my body didn't work. I couldn't even get an arm up to my face.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:18:11.9-00:18:15.6 testimony first hand

  176. 176

    The chemist abductee described feeling an absolute, bottomless terror because every familiar thing - his surroundings, his fellow man, and his ability to move his arm - had been taken from him with nothing to relate the experience to.

    “every single familiar thing had been taken away from me. My surroundings, my fellow man, my ability to move my arm...when every familiar thing is gone, you know an absolutely bottomless terror. Because there's nothing to relate it to.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:18:17.5-00:18:35.9 testimony first hand

  177. 177

    An abductee told Budd Hopkins that, unlike previous serious hardships such as his father's death and a career setback which he had been able to prepare for, he had nothing to prepare him for his abduction experience and no way to know what would happen from moment to moment.

    “my father died after a long illness and...I had a major setback in my career...I was kind of prepared for them...but this experience an abduction...there was nothing in the world to prepare me for I had no idea from moment to moment what was going to happen next”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:18:44.9-00:19:06.6 testimony first hand

  178. 178

    The same abductee compared his abduction terror to being held up by an armed mugger, saying that with a mugger one has cues suggesting the encounter will end safely, whereas during the abduction he had nothing to go on.

    “with a mugger if a guy has a gun on you...you hope somebody might show up and you know that if the mugger runs away in two minutes without having shot you, you're probably alright...I had nothing to go on, not a single solitary thing.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:19:13.0-00:19:26.4 testimony first hand

  179. 179

    Budd Hopkins uses the term "skeleton key effect" to describe how a person's realisation that they have had abduction experiences can unlock previously unexplained strange behaviours, fears, or phobias in that person's life.

    “There's something I call the skeleton key effect. And that is that when a person realizes that he or she has had these experiences that knowledge unlocks a lot of strange behavior in that person's life”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:19:46.4-00:20:00.2 opinion first hand

  180. 180

    An abductee told Budd Hopkins he could not tolerate being touched lightly in a certain way, which Hopkins connected to the man's memory of needles having been inserted near his navel during an abduction.

    “somebody said they didn't like to be touched in a certain place actually the region of the navel because there had been these needles inserted in the abdomen...the one thing I can't ever stand is somebody to touch me lightly like this he said that I just totally fall apart”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:20:17.6-00:20:36.4 testimony first hand

  181. 181

    A police officer told Budd Hopkins that he had a lifelong phobia of black widow spiders, which Hopkins connected to the man's abduction memories.

    “There's a man who is a police officer and he told me that he had had this phobia about being terrified of spiders. He said, black widow spiders...that's my only phobia.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:20:48.0-00:20:58.0 testimony first hand

  182. 182

    An abductee who worked with Budd Hopkins developed a lifelong fear of black widow spiders after, as a five-year-old, waking in the night to see a spider's nest with two black widow spiders in the corner of his bedroom window.

    “mine started when I was five years old. I was sleeping in my little bed right next to the window. I remember I woke up in the middle of the night. And right in the corner of the window was a spider's nest with a couple of black widow spiders in it.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:21:17.2-00:21:30.0 hearsay second hand

  183. 183

    The morning after seeing the black widow spider's nest, the abductee's mother told him there was nothing in the window and no nest was found there.

    “In the morning, I just screamed from my mother. And I asked her to take away the spider's nest. And she said, there's nothing there in the window. And he said, you know, there wasn't. There was nothing there.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:21:36.2-00:21:46.4 hearsay second hand

  184. 184

    The abductee's mother explained to him that black widow spiders do not build nests in sunlit areas like a window, but go under porches and similar sheltered places.

    “my mother explained that black widow spiders don't build nests in a sunlit area like a window. They go under porches and back under things.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:21:48.2-00:21:54.2 hearsay second hand

  185. 185

    From the night he saw the black widow spider's nest, the abductee developed a lasting fear of black widow spiders and would go out for years searching for them, killing them with stones when he found them.

    “from that moment on, I developed this terrible fear of black widow spiders. And I would go out looking for them to kill them he said I was scared of them but I wanted to kill them and I would get stones and I would go back under decks and places and I would see find them and I would smash them and I said this went on for years”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:21:57.4-00:22:15.2 hearsay second hand

  186. 186

    The abductee who feared black widow spiders had, as an adult, been involved in gun battles, yet still said the thought of black widow spiders scared him and that he hated them.

    “this is a guy who's had been involved in gun battles he said still to think of them scares me and I hate them”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:22:16.4-00:22:22.2 hearsay second hand

  187. 187

    A man who worked with Budd Hopkins described being lifted up in a light beam as a little boy into a UFO, an experience he identified as a typical alien abduction.

    “There's a man who was lifted up in a light beam as a little boy into a UFO, an abduction experience, a typical story.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:23:01.9-00:23:09.9 hearsay second hand

  188. 188

    The same abductee recalled that, as a small boy shortly after the light-beam experience, he held a toy soldier in a sunbeam coming through Venetian blinds, let go, and was upset that the toy soldier fell to the floor instead of remaining suspended, repeating the attempt two or three times with the same result.

    “he said the Venetian blinds were at a slant and this beautiful light beam, sunbeam was coming through the Venetian blinds and he had a little toy soldier and he was quite small this is right after this experience he picked up the little toy soldier held it in the light beam and let go and the thing fell to the floor he couldn't figure it out he was very upset he picked it up and held it in the sunbeam two or three times let go and each time of course it fell to the floor and he went in crying to his mother that the beam wasn't holding the soldier”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:23:22.3-00:23:50.3 hearsay second hand

  189. 189

    The abductee's mother had no explanation for why the light beam should have held up the toy soldier.

    “She had no idea why it should hold a soldier.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:23:53.8-00:23:55.4 hearsay second hand

  190. 190

    The same abductee recalled that the first time he rode in an elevator in a large office building, as a small boy, he told his mother the elevator was not going fast enough, saying he knew it should go faster than that even though his mother pointed out he had never been on an elevator before.

    “This boy said that the first time he was taken around that time to a large office building where there was an elevator. He got in the elevator with his mother and he said, it's not going fast enough. It's too slow. It's not going fast enough. And she said, but you've never been on an elevator before. He said, I know, but they go faster than this.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:23:59.0-00:24:16.5 hearsay second hand

  191. 191

    The same abductee, when the elevator doors opened on the 12th floor of the office building, said 'we're still in the building', which his mother could not explain.

    “And then when the doors opened on the 12th floor, and he stepped out, he said, we're still in the building. And she couldn't understand where all this was coming from.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:24:17.7-00:24:26.7 hearsay second hand

  192. 192

    Budd Hopkins considers such incongruous childhood remarks and behaviours, which he calls a 'skeleton key effect', to be usually much more profound in other cases than the light examples he described.

    “this skeleton key effect, and this is just a touching on the situation. It's usually much more profound than what I'm, these are little light examples.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:24:28.6-00:24:36.9 opinion first hand

  193. 193

    Budd Hopkins considers that people who have had alien abduction experiences behave as if they had been leading secret lives they knew nothing about.

    “it's as if people who had these experiences had been leading secret lives that they knew nothing about.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:24:38.5-00:24:43.3 opinion first hand

  194. 194

    Budd Hopkins considers that people abducted 10, 20, or 30 times become conditioned by these experiences.

    “if they had been abducted 10 or 20 or 30 times, they're conditioned by these experiences”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:24:43.9-00:24:50.4 opinion first hand

  195. 195

    Budd Hopkins was working on ways to help abductees regain a sense of their own power or the illusion of control, describing this as very difficult but a problem that must be addressed.

    “we're working on ways in which they can begin to regain a sense of their own power to regain the illusion of control or something is very very difficult but the problem must be addressed”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:24:51.6-00:25:04.1 testimony first hand

  196. 196

    Budd Hopkins described himself as being in the position of working with abduction experiencers to get them through their trauma and explore what had happened to them.

    “I'm in the position of working with people just to get them through the trauma and try to explore what's happened.”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:25:07.0-00:25:16.7 testimony first hand

  197. 197

    Budd Hopkins described himself as having been so occupied with immediate emergency work with abduction experiencers that he had not had a chance to address the broader public health issues raised by the phenomenon.

    “my sense of myself is that I've been so busy in the emergency room running around with the band-aids and the tourniquets that I haven't had a chance to approach the public health issues that we really have to have to address”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:25:20.4-00:25:31.6 opinion first hand

  198. 198

    Budd Hopkins considers that the alien abduction phenomenon may involve hundreds of thousands of people, and possibly larger numbers than that.

    “the abduction situation may involve hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people maybe larger numbers than that”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:25:36.8-00:25:44.7 opinion first hand

  199. 199

    A woman in a case in Erie, Pennsylvania recalled under hypnosis that a craft descended directly next to her second-story bedroom window and that she was taken out through the window into the craft.

    “this is a case in Erie, Pennsylvania...Under hypnosis, the craft had come directly down next to the window, her bedroom window, second-story window. She was taken out the window into the craft”

    What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 21-28 testimony first hand

  200. 200

    Whitley Strieber told only Budd Hopkins about the function he observed in the beings in 1986, and Hopkins was disgusted and thought Strieber must have been dreaming.

    “The only person I told about it was Budd Hopkins. He was disgusted and thought I must have been dreaming, so I put it aside.”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:6975-7093 testimony first hand

  201. 201

    Neither Whitley Strieber nor Budd Hopkins ever wrote publicly about the excretory function Strieber observed in 1986.

    “To my knowledge, neither of us ever wrote about it.”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:7100-7148 administrative first hand

  202. 202

    Whitley Strieber told Budd Hopkins that the ammonia-like process he observed was how the gray beings relieved themselves.

    “I recall telling Budd that this was how they relieved themselves.”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:9524-9578 testimony first hand

  203. 203

    Budd Hopkins first proposed to hypnotise Whitley Strieber.

    “When Budd Hopkins first proposed to hypnotize me”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21391-21437 observation first hand

  204. 204

    Budd Hopkins brought Donald Klein into the process of hypnotising Whitley Strieber.

    “he drew Dr. Donald Klein into the picture”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21544-21578 observation first hand

  205. 205

    Whitley Strieber's alien abduction memories became more detailed under hypnosis by Donald Klein, which surprised both Strieber and Budd Hopkins.

    “When the alien abduction memories I had presented with only became more detailed under hypnosis, we were both quite surprised”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21980-22096 observation first hand

  206. 206

    Bud Hopkins referred to marks like the one found on Peter Khoury's shin as scoop marks, believed to be caused by alien beings taking samples of hair, skin, blood, and bone.

    “What I got to learn later on, it's a scoop mark. It's what they, Bud Hopkins refers to them as scoop marks. A sample... they reckon the reason they do it there because they can get hair, skin, blood, bone.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:29:05.1-01:29:17.3 hearsay second hand

  207. 207

    At a UFO conference, Bud Hopkins chose to sit at Peter Khoury's table rather than the seat arranged by the conference organisers, saying he was comfortable with Peter Khoury.

    “Bud actually during the, the, to sign his autograph for his books and so on, he came and sat at my table and the people who held the conference came and said, no, no, no, no, you've got to sit over there. And he's like, no, no, I'm comfortable with Peter.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:49:11.6-01:49:24.8 testimony first hand

  208. 208

    Bud Hopkins told Peter Khoury, while driving home from the conference, that what drew him to Peter Khoury was that Peter Khoury had not tried to push his story on him.

    “Then on the way home, we're driving home, and he said to me, you know what drew me to you, Peter?... the fact that you didn't try and push your story on me.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:49:27.6-01:49:38.9 testimony second hand

  209. 209

    Bud Hopkins told Peter Khoury that another man had spent thousands of dollars renovating his home hoping Bud Hopkins would stay there, and that this was the last thing Bud Hopkins wanted.

    “He said there was one guy who, he spent thousands of dollars renovating his home, hoping that Bud would stay at his house. And that was the last thing Bud wanted.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:49:39.7-01:49:49.8 hearsay second hand

  210. 210

    Bud Hopkins told Peter Khoury that the same man had opened a folder of his story materials in front of Bud Hopkins's face while Bud Hopkins was using a urinal, which made Bud Hopkins uncomfortable and turned him off the man and his story.

    “I was at the urinal, I was peeing. This guy bought out a folder and opened it. He goes, he opened it in front of my face. He goes, I couldn't see where I was peeing. I felt so awkward... it just turned me off him and his story.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:50:07.1-01:50:25.1 hearsay second hand

  211. 211

    Budd Hopkins was present at the Washington DC meeting described by Shirley MacLaine in Going Within.

    “Senator Pell and the Budd Hopkins is there as well.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:01:26.6-02:01:31.0 hearsay second hand

  212. 212

    Budd Hopkins was an American artist, author and ufologist.

    “[note: Budd Hopkins - American artist, author, and ufologist]”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 line 308 administrative

  213. 213

    Chris Ramsay considers Debbie Jordan, covered by Budd Hopkins in the book Intruders, one of the first cases in which human-alien hybrid children were talked about.

    “ever since, I think Debbie Jordan, Deborah Jordan was like one of the first ones that, you know, The Encounters book that Bud Hopkins covered. Bud Hopkins covered. was one of the first times I think it was talked abo”

    Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 02:05:57.1-02:06:09.6 opinion first hand

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    Whitley Strieber telephoned Budd Hopkins after reading Science and the UFOs.

    “I'm going to call this guy and find out what he knows”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:04:41.8-00:04:43.5 testimony first hand

  215. 215

    Budd Hopkins wanted to hypnotise Whitley Strieber, and Strieber refused because Hopkins was an artist with no professional degrees displayed.

    “He wanted to hypnotize me. And I thought, I see art on the walls. He's an artist. I do not see any professional degrees. So I said no to that.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:04:44.7-00:04:53.2 testimony first hand

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    Budd Hopkins put Whitley Strieber in touch with Donald Klein, who then hypnotised Strieber.

    “he proceeds to get me in touch with probably one of the world's leading forensic hypnotists at that time, Dr. Donald Klein, who proceeds to hypnotize me”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:04:53.8-00:05:04.1 testimony first hand

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    Under hypnosis by Donald Klein, Whitley Strieber recalled appearing to have been abducted by aliens rather than assaulted by people in masks.

    “Instead of seeing people in masks and being able to identify things I could take to the police, I appeared to have been abducted by aliens, just like Budd thought.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:05:37.3-00:05:46.6 testimony first hand

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