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Luis Elizondo

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Lue Elizondo kept the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program investigation going for a few years until his frustration with a lack of interest from Department of Defense higher-ups became too much to bear.
“Lue Elizondo was able to keep the investigation going for a few years until his frustration with a lack of interest on the part of DOD higher ups became too much to bear.”
Statement to Congress char:13144-13309 testimony first hand
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Lue Elizondo's public exposure of the existence of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was a major factor in the eventual creation of the Unidentified Aerospace Phenomena Task Force and later the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office.
“His exposure of the existence of AATIP was a major factor in the eventual creation of the UAP Task Force and later, of AARO.”
Statement to Congress char:13315-13434 administrative first hand
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The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was launched from the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence and was managed by a career counterintelligence officer named Lue Elizondo.
“AATIP was launched from OUSDI, the office of the undersecretary for defense intelligence and was managed by a career counterintelligence officer named Lue Elizondo.”
Statement to Congress char:8712-8867 administrative first hand
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George Knapp considers the New York Times AATIP report accurate on many levels: that AATIP was real, that Lue Elizondo was the man in charge of it, and that it was an investigation of UFO encounters involving US military personnel.
“The NY Times report was accurate on many levels. AATIP as real. Lue Elizondo was the man in charge of it. And it was an investigation of UFO encounters involving US military personnel.”
Statement to Congress char:9372-9546 opinion first hand
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In his resignation letter of October 4, 2017, Luis Elizondo said there was a need for more serious attention to the many accounts from the Navy and other services of unusual aerial systems interfering with military weapon platforms and displaying beyond-next-generation capabilities.
“Mr. Elizondo, in his resignation letter of Oct. 4, said there was a need for more serious attention to “the many accounts from the Navy and other services of unusual aerial systems interfering with military weapon platforms and displaying beyond-next-generation capabilities.””
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:12007-12269 opinion second hand
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Luis Elizondo told Jim Mattis in his resignation letter that there remains a vital need to ascertain capability and intent of unusual aerial phenomena for the benefit of the armed forces and the nation.
“He expressed his frustration with the limitations placed on the program, telling Mr. Mattis that “there remains a vital need to ascertain capability and intent of these phenomena for the benefit of the armed forces and the nation.””
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:12284-12507 opinion second hand
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Luis Elizondo has joined Harold E. Puthoff and Christopher K. Mellon, another former Department of Defense official who was a deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence, in a new commercial venture called To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science.
“Mr. Elizondo has now joined Mr. Puthoff and another former Defense Department official, Christopher K. Mellon, who was a deputy assistant secretary of defense for intelligence, in a new commercial venture called To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science.”
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:12517-12762 administrative
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Luis Elizondo, Harold E. Puthoff and Christopher K. Mellon are speaking publicly about their efforts as To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science aims to raise money for research into UFOs.
“They are speaking publicly about their efforts as their venture aims to raise money for research into U.F.O.s.”
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:12771-12879 administrative
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Luis Elizondo said he and his government colleagues had determined that the phenomena they had studied in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) did not seem to originate from any country.
“In the interview, Mr. Elizondo said he and his government colleagues had determined that the phenomena they had studied did not seem to originate from any country.”
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:12883-13038 opinion first hand
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Luis Elizondo said that fact is not something any government or institution should classify in order to keep secret from the people.
““That fact is not something any government or institution should classify in order to keep secret from the people,” he said.”
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:13048-13166 opinion first hand
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Luis Elizondo said the only thing that had ended regarding the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was the effort's government funding, which dried up in 2012.
“But Mr. Elizondo said the only thing that had ended was the effort’s government funding, which dried up in 2012.”
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:5515-5622 testimony first hand
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After 2012, Luis Elizondo worked with officials from the United States Navy and the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“From then on, Mr. Elizondo said in an interview, he worked with officials from the Navy and the C.I.A.”
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:5628-5728 testimony first hand
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Luis Elizondo continued to work out of his Pentagon office until October 2017, when he resigned to protest what he characterised as excessive secrecy and internal opposition.
“He continued to work out of his Pentagon office until this past October, when he resigned to protest what he characterized as excessive secrecy and internal opposition.”
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:5731-5888 administrative
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In his resignation letter to Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, Luis Elizondo wrote 'Why aren't we spending more time and effort on this issue?'
““Why aren’t we spending more time and effort on this issue?” Mr. Elizondo wrote in a resignation letter to Defense Secretary Jim Mattis.”
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:5902-6030 opinion second hand
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Luis Elizondo said that the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) effort continued and that he had a successor, whom he declined to name.
“Mr. Elizondo said that the effort continued and that he had a successor, whom he declined to name.”
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:6039-6132 testimony first hand
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The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was run by military intelligence official Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagon's C Ring.
“It was run by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, on the fifth floor of the Pentagon’s C Ring, deep within the building’s maze.”
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:865-1000 administrative
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Under Robert Bigelow's direction, Bigelow Aerospace modified buildings in Las Vegas for the storage of metal alloys and other materials that Luis Elizondo and Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) contractors said had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena.
“Under Mr. Bigelow’s direction, the company modified buildings in Las Vegas for the storage of metal alloys and other materials that Mr. Elizondo and program contractors said had been recovered from unidentified aerial phenomena.”
Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:9363-9581 hearsay second hand
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Three reporters shared bylines on the 2017 New York Times story about Luis Elizondo, including freelancer Leslie Kean, who met Elizondo in a nondescript Washington, D.C. hotel where he sat with his back to the wall, keeping an eye on the door.
“The three reporters who shared bylines on the story, including freelancer Leslie Kean...met Elizondo in a “nondescript Washington hotel where he sat with his back to the wall, keeping an eye on the door.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 113 observation
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Luis Elizondo describes himself as a "career spy."
“the self-described “career spy” is having another big moment in the media spotlight.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 27 administrative first hand
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Luis Elizondo described himself before December 2017 as living "in the shadows."
“Virtually overnight, Elizondo went from living “in the shadows,” in his words,”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:12099-12196 administrative first hand
21
Luis Elizondo talked in cable news appearances about hypersonic, gravity-defying "unidentified aerial vehicles" that had encroached in recent years on military training areas in restricted airspace.
“hopscotching between cable news studios, where he talked gravely about hypersonic, gravity-defying “unidentified aerial vehicles” that, in recent years, had encroached on military training areas in restricted airspace.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:12213-12422 opinion first hand
22
Luis Elizondo arranged for the Pentagon to release videos taken from cockpit cameras of F/A-18 fighter jets, just before he quit the Department of Defense.
“videos taken from cockpit cameras of F-18 fighter jets that Elizondo had arranged for the Pentagon to release just before he quit.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:12489-12592 administrative
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"Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation" follows Luis Elizondo as he re-investigates strange UFO incidents he says he learned of while running the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) at the Pentagon.
“goes on to follow Elizondo as he re-investigates strange UFO incidents he says he learned of when he was at the Pentagon running the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, known as AATIP.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:1265-1457 administrative
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Luis Elizondo told a UFO conference audience of hundreds in July 2018 that people who had associated him with being fringe were wrong, and that "all along, you were right."
““People may have associated you with being fringe or out there,” he told one rapt audience of hundreds at a UFO conference last July. “All along, you were right.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:13419-13620 opinion first hand
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The July 2018 UFO conference was the first public forum in which Luis Elizondo laid out the history and objectives of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“It was the first public forum in which Elizondo laid out the history and objectives of the AATIP;”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:13628-13719 administrative
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By mid-2019, longtime UFO researchers were having trouble finding out what the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) actually did and the scope of Luis Elizondo's role, and Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests were turning up dry.
“longtime UFO researchers were having trouble finding out what the program exactly did, as well as the scope of Elizondo’s role. FOIA requests were turning up dry.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:13832-13990 observation
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Luis Elizondo claimed the cockpit video footage constituted "compelling evidence" for "phenomena" he couldn't identify.
“Elizondo’s earnest claims of “compelling evidence” for “phenomena” he couldn’t identify,”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:14055-14134 opinion first hand
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Luis Elizondo told a UFO conference audience that in the Department of Defense there is always a paper trail, whether establishing or disestablishing an organisation, but that no such paper trail exists for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
““In the Department of Defense, there’s always a paper trail,” he told the audience at the UFO conference. “When you establish an organization, there’s a paper trail. When you dis-establish an organization, there’s a paper trail. You won’t find one for this program.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:14202-14458 opinion first hand
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George Knapp has been a vocal defender of Luis Elizondo and Tom DeLonge for the two years before mid-2019, pushing back on critics who have raised questions about To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science.
“Knapp has been a vocal defender of Elizondo and DeLonge for the past two years, pushing back on critics who have raised thorny questions about To the Stars.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:14740-14890 observation
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John Greenewald was initially enthusiastic about To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science but became increasingly sceptical when he was unable to verify many of Luis Elizondo's claims about the government's UFO programme through Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests and conversations with Pentagon representatives.
“Initially enthusiastic about To the Stars, Greenewald became increasingly skeptical when he was unable to verify many of Elizondo’s claims about the government’s UFO program through FOIA requests and conversations with Pentagon representatives.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:15769-15997 observation
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John Greenewald reached out to To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science spokesperson Kari DeLonge, Tom DeLonge's sister, for more information about Luis Elizondo's involvement in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Greenewald reached out to To the Stars spokesperson Kari DeLonge (Tom’s sister) for more information about Elizondo’s involvement in AATIP.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:16028-16161 administrative
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Christopher Sherwood told Keith Kloor unequivocally that Luis Elizondo had no responsibilities regarding the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) while he worked in the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI).
“Sherwood, the Pentagon spokesperson who had told me unequivocally that Elizondo “had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:16378-16535 testimony first hand
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In the screener of "Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation," the narrator says Luis Elizondo quit the Pentagon because he was frustrated by what he says was a cover-up.
“the narrator says that Elizondo quit the Pentagon because he was “frustrated by what he says was a cover-up.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:1642-1747 hearsay second hand
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Luis Elizondo was based in the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI) from 2008 until his retirement in 2017.
“Sherwood how he knew that Elizondo hadn’t worked for AATIP during his time with the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, where he was based from 2008 until his retirement in 2017.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:16557-16753 administrative
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Christopher Sherwood said he had spoken with Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI) leadership, including individuals still there from when Luis Elizondo started working in the office, in concluding Elizondo had not worked for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Sherwood said he’d spoken with OUSDI leadership, including individuals who are “still there” from the time when Elizondo started working in the office.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:16759-16903 testimony first hand
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Christopher Sherwood acknowledged that Luis Elizondo worked for other organisations within the United States Department of Defense (DoD).
“Sherwood acknowledged that Elizondo “worked for other organizations in DoD.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:17025-17096 testimony first hand
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Luis Elizondo has not supplied any documents, such as memorandums, emails, or paperwork, that connect him to the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), despite providing other documents to reporters to establish his bona fides.
“he does not appear to have supplied any materials that validate his connection to the government UFO program he insists he led. No memorandums, no emails discussing deliverables or findings, and no paperwork addressed to or from him that connects him to AATIP.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:17391-17645 observation first hand
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Luis Elizondo provided reporters, including Keith Kloor, with recent annual Defense Department performance evaluations and his 2017-10-04 resignation letter to then-Defense Secretary James Mattis, which bears the apparent seal of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense.
“The documents he has provided include recent annual Defense Department performance evaluations and his October 4, 2017 resignation letter to then-Defense Secretary James Mattis, which bears the apparent seal of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:17653-17901 administrative
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In his resignation letter to James Mattis, Luis Elizondo alludes to internal opposition at the Pentagon to investigating UFOs that he wrote had menaced Navy pilots and posed an "existential threat to our national security."
“In the letter, Elizondo alludes to internal opposition at the Pentagon to investigate UFOs that he wrote had menaced Navy Pilots and posed an “existential threat to our national security.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:17910-18088 opinion second hand
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Luis Elizondo strongly implied in his resignation letter that he was leaving because the Pentagon wasn't taking the UFO threat seriously.
“He was leaving, he strongly implied in his letter, because the Pentagon wasn’t taking that threat seriously.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:18099-18197 opinion second hand
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Luis Elizondo's resignation letter to James Mattis does not mention the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) or Elizondo's role as its director.
“The letter does not mention AATIP or Elizondo’s role as its director.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:18209-18269 observation first hand
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Bryan Bender describes Luis Elizondo in "Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation" as an enigma, a guy who spent decades in the intelligence community.
“Bender describes Elizondo as “in many ways, an enigma. Here is a guy who spent decades in the intelligence community.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:18314-18421 opinion first hand
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Luis Elizondo retired as an official at the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI).
“Elizondo retired as an official at the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:18464-18548 administrative
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A public records search reveals a series of home addresses for Luis Elizondo over the last two decades close to intelligence facilities in Toa Baja, Puerto Rico, the site of the unacknowledged government surveillance program called Echelon, and in Grovetown, Georgia.
“A public records search also reveals a series of home addresses for Elizondo over the last two decades that are close to intelligence facilities in Toa Baja, Puerto Rico (the site of an unacknowledged government surveillance program called “Echelon”) and in Grovetown, Georgia.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:18562-18831 observation second hand
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Tim McMillan has a longtime interest in UFOs, like John Greenewald, but has come to doubt Luis Elizondo's involvement with any government UFO program.
“who, like Greenewald, has a longtime interest in UFOs but has come to doubt Elizondo’s involvement with any government UFO program.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:19108-19231 opinion
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Helene Cooper described Luis Elizondo as a "spooky, secretive guy" but considered him "completely credible."
“described Elizondo as a “spooky, secretive guy” but added that he was “completely credible.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:20006-20088 opinion first hand
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Luis Elizondo showed Helene Cooper documents, pictures, and military videos of potential UFOs.
“He showed her documents, pictures, and military videos of potential UFOs, which appeared fantastic to her, but also persuasive.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:20099-20215 observation first hand
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Helene Cooper found the documents, pictures, and military videos Luis Elizondo showed her fantastic in appearance but persuasive.
“which appeared fantastic to her, but also persuasive”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:20173-20215 opinion first hand
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Helene Cooper believed Luis Elizondo in the moment he showed her the material, saying it seemed completely credible to her at the time.
““I did believe him,” Cooper said on the podcast. “It seemed completely credible to me in the moment.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:20228-20320 opinion first hand
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There is no discernible evidence that Luis Elizondo ever worked for a government UFO program, much less led one.
“There is no discernible evidence that he ever worked for a government UFO program, much less led one.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:2032-2129 opinion first hand
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After leaving the hotel room where Luis Elizondo showed her the material, Helene Cooper found that doubts crept in.
“Later on, after she left the hotel room, Cooper acknowledged that doubts crept in.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:20330-20409 opinion first hand
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Luis Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) while he worked in the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI), up until he resigned effective 2017-10-04.
““Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI [the Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence], up until the time he resigned effective 10/4/2017.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:2310-2512 testimony first hand
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Christopher Sherwood's statement that Luis Elizondo had no responsibilities regarding the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) directly contradicts an email sent by a spokesperson for To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science.
“That directly contradicts an email sent by a spokesperson for To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science, a UFO research and entertainment company that Elizondo joined after he left the Defense Department.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:2520-2710 opinion first hand
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Luis Elizondo joined To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science after he left the United States Department of Defense (DoD).
“a UFO research and entertainment company that Elizondo joined after he left the Defense Department.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:2622-2710 administrative
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By the time of Kari DeLonge's email, John Greenewald had become frustrated at the lack of tangible information about the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) and Luis Elizondo's role in it.
“At the time, Greenewald had become frustrated at the lack of tangible information about AATIP and Elizondo’s role”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:3202-3311 observation
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Luis Elizondo spurned John Greenewald's interview requests.
“Elizondo had spurned Greenewald’s interview requests.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:3331-3375 observation
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John Greenewald asked Kari DeLonge specifically where Luis Elizondo worked within the United States Department of Defense (DoD) when he ran the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Greenewald told me that he had asked DeLonge specifically where Elizondo worked within the Department of Defense when he ran AATIP.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:3386-3511 testimony first hand
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The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was initially run out of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), but when Luis Elizondo took it over in 2010 as Director, he ran it out of the Office of the Secretary of Defense under the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (USDI).
““The program was initially run out of [the Defense Intelligence Agency] but when Lue took it over in 2010 as Director, he ran it out of the Office for the Secretary of Defense (OSD) under the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (USDI). Hope that clarifies.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:3572-3826 testimony first hand
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Keith Kloor tried contacting Luis Elizondo multiple times via email and cellphone, and Elizondo did not respond.
“I tried contacting Elizondo multiple times via email and his cellphone. He has not responded.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:3839-3922 observation first hand
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Luis Elizondo joined To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science in October 2017, several days after he resigned from the United States Department of Defense (DoD).
“the company Elizondo joined in October 2017, several days after he resigned from the Department of Defense.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:5340-5439 administrative
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"Fox & Friends" did not mention that Chris Mellon works for To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science, nor that "Unidentified: Inside America's UFO Investigation" was made by the company that employs Luis Elizondo and Chris Mellon.
““Fox & Friends” neglected to mention this connection, along with the fact that the History Channel show was made by the company Elizondo and Mellon work for.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:6282-6434 observation first hand
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Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White confirmed to Politico that the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) existed and was run by Luis Elizondo.
““Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White confirmed to Politico that the program existed and was run by Elizondo,” Bryan Bender wrote in December 2017.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:6931-7097 testimony second hand
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Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood said he cannot confirm Dana White's statement that the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) existed and was run by Luis Elizondo.
“But Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood told me that he “cannot confirm” White’s statement.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:7475-7563 testimony first hand
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Bryan Bender considers Luis Elizondo and Chris Mellon part of an unmatched team of former high-level government officials to come forward on the UFO issue, noting they still have security clearances and networks in Washington, D.C.
““If you were trying to come up with the A-team of former, high-level government officials who would come forward on this issue, you can’t really think of a better team,” Bender says in the screener. “Lue Elizondo, Chris Mellon — these guys still have security clearances, still have networks in Washington, still are in the business, if you will.””
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:7829-8169 opinion first hand
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Luis Elizondo confirmed to Keith Kloor in 2019 that he is working as a government contractor, but said "it's not what you think it is."
“Elizondo confirmed to me earlier this year that he is, in fact, working as a government contractor, “but it’s not what you think it is,” he said.”
The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:8512-8652 testimony first hand
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Luis Elizondo had no assigned responsibilities for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) while he was in the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)).
“Mr. Elizondo had no assigned responsibilities for AATIP while he was in OUSD(I) [the Office of Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence].”
Pentagon Reinforces Mr. Luis Elizondo Had “No Responsibilities” on AATIP; Senator Harry Reid’s 2009 Memo Changes Nothing 2019-06-14 char:1261-1388 administrative second hand
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On June 1, 2019, as reported by Keith Kloor, the Pentagon said Luis Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) while he worked in the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI), up until the time he resigned effective 2017-10-04.
“as reported by Mr. Keith Kloor, the Pentagon had also said, in part, “Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program while he worked in OUSDI, up until the time he resigned effective 10/4/2017.””
Pentagon Reinforces Mr. Luis Elizondo Had “No Responsibilities” on AATIP; Senator Harry Reid’s 2009 Memo Changes Nothing 2019-06-14 char:1480-1691 administrative second hand
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Luis Elizondo resigned from his position effective 2017-10-04.
“up until the time he resigned effective 10/4/2017”
Pentagon Reinforces Mr. Luis Elizondo Had “No Responsibilities” on AATIP; Senator Harry Reid’s 2009 Memo Changes Nothing 2019-06-14 char:1646-1691 administrative second hand
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One page of the 2009 Harry Reid memo shows that the names of Luis Elizondo and Hal Puthoff were redacted by KLAS-TV on its initial release, for unknown reasons.
“[caption: One page from the 2009 Harry Reid memo, showing Mr. Luis Elizondo and Dr. Hal Puthoff were redacted by KLAS-TV on the initial release, for unknown reasons.]”
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The 2009 Harry Reid memo previously had the names of Luis Elizondo and Hal Puthoff redacted.
“previously had the names of Mr. Elizondo, along with another name well-established to have worked within the program, Dr. Hal Puthoff, redacted.”
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It remains unclear why George Knapp and Matt Adams, or their source, asked to redact the names of Luis Elizondo and Hal Puthoff in the July 25, 2018 KLAS-TV story on Pentagon UFO study documents.
“but It remains unclear why both journalists, or their source, asked them to redact those two names in the first place.”
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The date of the 2009 Harry Reid memo, 2009-07-24, precedes Luis Elizondo's claimed start of heading the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) by at least five months, so the memo does not disprove the Pentagon's original statement.
“Not only does the date precede Mr. Elizondo’s claim by at least five months of heading the AATIP (thus not disproving the Pentagon’s original statement)”
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The Pentagon's previous statement on Luis Elizondo's AATIP role, that the 2009 Harry Reid memo makes no change to, had been issued to The Intercept by Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood.
“the content therein “makes no change” to their previous statement issued by Pentagon spokesperson Mr. Christopher Sherwood to The Intercept.”
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The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) administered the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), and Luis Elizondo was never assigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency.
“DIA [Defense Intelligence Agency] administered AATIP, and Elizondo was never assigned to DIA.”
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Luis Elizondo did interact with the Defense Intelligence Agency office managing the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) while the program was still ongoing, but he did not lead it.
“Elizondo did interact with the DIA office managing the program while the program was still ongoing, but he did not lead it.”
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Luis Elizondo did not respond to a request for comment from The Black Vault.
“Mr. Elizondo did not respond to a request for comment.”
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The Pentagon statement received on 2019-06-13 goes against claims written online that a new Pentagon statement would be forthcoming to clarify the Pentagon's stance and confirm Luis Elizondo's directorship of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“This statement, received on June 13, 2019, goes against many claims written online that a “new Pentagon statement” would be forthcoming that would further clarify the Pentagon’s stance, and confirm Mr. Elizondo’s directorship of the program.”
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Hal Puthoff is co-founder of To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science, where Luis Elizondo is employed.
“Dr. Puthoff, co-founder of To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science where Mr. Elizondo is now employed”
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Hal Puthoff offered his support to counter the Pentagon's assertions about Luis Elizondo's role in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Dr. Puthoff, co-founder of To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science where Mr. Elizondo is now employed, offered his support to counter the Pentagon’s assertions.”
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Hal Puthoff considers that the public does not have detailed access to daily activities in Pentagon projects and offices, and that those not directly connected, such as staff in the Public Affairs Office, are often themselves unclear about details concerning highly classified sensitive programs for which they have little to no access.
“I have been following all the buzz back ‘n forth concerning Elizondo’s role in AATIP, and recognize that there are a number of misunderstandings – for reasonable reasons – given that the public doesn’t have detailed access to daily activities in Pentagon projects/offices. Unfortunately for the public, those not directly connected, e.g., in the Public Affairs Office, are often themselves sketchy about details concerning highly-classified sensitive programs for which they have little-to-no access for security reasons.”
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As an Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) Contractor and Senior Advisor, Hal Puthoff continued to attend meetings, provide briefings, gain access to videos, provide Proposed Program Plans, and meet with staff, all under the aegis of Luis Elizondo's leadership and responsibility for maintaining continuity of the program effort and goals until Elizondo resigned.
“I have no problem asserting that as an AAWSAP [Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program]/AATIP Contractor & Senior Advisor I continued to attend meetings, provide briefings, gain access to videos, provide Proposed Program Plans, meet with staff, etc., all under the aegis of Elizondo’s leadership and responsibility for maintaining continuity of the Program effort and goals until he resigned.”
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It is unclear how Hal Puthoff could have worked under Luis Elizondo's leadership given that AAWSAP/AATIP contracted work began in 2008 at the Defense Intelligence Agency while Elizondo's alleged leadership began in 2010 at OUSDI.
“It is unclear how Dr. Puthoff could have worked under Mr. Elizondo’s leadership, since AAWSAP/AATIP contracted work began in 2008 at DIA and Mr. Elizondo’s alleged leadership began in 2010 at OUSDI when the program was transferred.”
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Luis Elizondo's alleged leadership of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) began in 2010 at the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI), when the program was transferred there.
“Mr. Elizondo’s alleged leadership began in 2010 at OUSDI when the program was transferred.”
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When asked about the discrepancy regarding when he worked under Luis Elizondo's leadership, Hal Puthoff did not return the message.
“When asked about the discrepancy, or to clarify that the contracted work by Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies, LLC. who initially won the contract, continued after two years (or after the 2012 date when funding was cut entirely); Dr. Puthoff did not return the message.”
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The Pentagon issued statements to The Black Vault specifically addressing the 2009 Harry Reid memo, which some supporters offered as proof of Luis Elizondo's alleged leadership of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“newly received statements from the Pentagon issued to The Black Vault specifically address a 2009 Harry Reid memo that is being offered by some supporters as proof of Mr. Elizondo’s alleged leadership of the program.”
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The existence of the 2009 Harry Reid memo does not alter the Pentagon's original position on Luis Elizondo's claims about AATIP leadership.
“it is now revealed that the existence of this document does not alter the Pentagon’s original position about his claims.”
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Steve Justice is part of the group working with Luis Elizondo on UAP disclosure efforts.
“And I've talked to Lou Elizondo about this and the group that they're working with, which is incredible. I mean, they've got Steve Justice who used to run Skunk Works”
David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 2020-09-08 01:54:22.7-01:54:30.8 administrative first hand
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Luis Elizondo was a program director.
“Now, Lou Elizondo, as you mentioned, was a program director.”
David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 2020-09-08 01:54:33.9-01:54:35.7 administrative first hand
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Luis Elizondo ran the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) at the Pentagon.
“He ran the AATIP program at the Pentagon.”
David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 2020-09-08 01:54:36.5-01:54:38.1 administrative first hand
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Luis Elizondo was a programme director at the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“reading Lou Elizondo's resignation note from his, he was a program director at the ATIC program”
David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 2020-09-08 02:55:46.2-02:55:56.0 administrative
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Luis Elizondo asked David Fravor what he thought the unidentified craft encountered during the 2004 USS Nimitz UFO incident were doing there.
“Lou asked me this when we were talking to Lou Elizondo, and he said, what do you think they were here for?”
David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 2020-09-08 02:58:58.5-02:59:01.6 testimony first hand
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Luis Elizondo suggested to David Fravor that the objects observed during the 2004 USS Nimitz UFO incident could have been prepping the battlefield by observing to figure out what the US military does.
“he goes what if they were prepping the battlefield what if they were observing to figure out what we do”
David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 2020-09-08 02:59:06.5-02:59:10.4 opinion second hand
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The United States government has stated for the record that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are real.
“The government has already stated for the record that they're real.”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:00:56.3-00:00:58.4 administrative second hand
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Luis Elizondo spent 20 years running military intelligence operations in Afghanistan, the Middle East, and Guantanamo.
“Luis Elizondo spent 20 years running military intelligence operations worldwide in Afghanistan, the Middle East, and Guantanamo.”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:01:02.4-00:01:10.0 administrative
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In 2008, Luis Elizondo was asked to join the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) at the Pentagon.
“That's when he was asked to join something at the Pentagon called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, or AATIP.”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:01:15.6-00:01:22.8 administrative
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The mission of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was to collect and analyse information involving anomalous aerial vehicles (AAV).
“The mission of AATIP was quite simple. It was to collect and analyze information involving anomalous aerial vehicles, what I guess in the vernacular you call them UFOs.”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:01:24.1-00:01:33.3 administrative first hand
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In 2010, Luis Elizondo took over the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) and focused on the national security implications of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) documented by U.S. service members.
“When Elizondo took over in 2010, he focused on the national security implications of unidentified aerial phenomena documented by U.S. service members.”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:02:01.6-00:02:11.4 administrative
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Anomalous aerial vehicles (AAV) studied by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) have been observed reaching 600 to 700 G-forces.
“Imagine a technology that can do 600 to 700 G-forces...”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:02:12.6-00:02:16.1 measurement first hand
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Anomalous aerial vehicles (AAV) studied by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) have been observed flying at approximately 21,000 kilometres per hour.
“that can fly at 13,000 miles an hour”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:02:17.0-00:02:18.8 measurement first hand
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Anomalous aerial vehicles (AAV) studied by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) can evade radar.
“that can evade radar”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:02:19.6-00:02:20.9 observation first hand
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Anomalous aerial vehicles (AAV) studied by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) can fly through air and water, and possibly space.
“that can fly through air and water and possibly space”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:02:22.3-00:02:26.0 observation first hand
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Anomalous aerial vehicles (AAV) studied by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) show no obvious signs of propulsion, wings, or control surfaces.
“has no obvious signs of propulsion, no wings, no control surfaces”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:02:27.8-00:02:31.4 observation first hand
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Anomalous aerial vehicles (AAV) studied by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) appear to defy the natural effects of Earth's gravity.
“still can defy the natural effects of Earth's gravity. That's precisely what we're seeing.”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:02:32.4-00:02:36.2 observation first hand
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The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was a loose-knit mix of scientists, electro-optical engineers, avionics specialists, and intelligence experts, often working part-time.
“Elizondo tells us AATIP was a loose-knit mix of scientists, electro-optical engineers, avionics, and intelligence experts, often working part-time.”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:02:37.0-00:02:46.7 administrative first hand
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In some cases there are simple explanations for what people are witnessing as Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), but in other cases there are not.
“In some cases, there are simple explanations for what people are witnessing, but there are some that that are not.”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:03:30.4-00:03:37.8 opinion first hand
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Investigators at the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) consider whether a sighting could be explained by new cruise missile technology developed by China before concluding it is a UAP.
“Is it some sort of new type of cruise missile technology that China has developed?”
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Investigators at the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) consider whether a sighting could be explained by a high-altitude balloon conducting reconnaissance.
“Is it some sort of high-altitude balloon that's conducting reconnaissance?”
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Luis Elizondo considers a case compelling and problematic once all alternative explanations have been exhausted and an unidentified object remains present in restricted airspace.
“Ultimately, when you have exhausted all those what-ifs and you're still left with the fact that this is in our airspace and it's real, that's when it becomes compelling and that's when it becomes problematic.”
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The 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter was not officially addressed for five years until Luis Elizondo investigated it.
“Nothing was said or done officially for five years until Lou Elizondo came across the story and investigated.”
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Luis Elizondo said significant sums are spent training Navy pilots, and they are reporting seeing things they cannot explain.
“We spend millions of dollars in training these pilots, and they are seeing something that they can't explain.”
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Luis Elizondo said pilot reports of unexplained aerial objects are backed up by electro-optical data such as gun-camera footage and by radar data.
“that information's being backed up on electro-optical data, like gun camera footage, and by radar data”
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Luis Elizondo said he and a handful of others kept the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP)'s mission alive after its funding was eliminated in 2012.
“Elizondo says he and a handful of others kept the mission alive”
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Luis Elizondo quit the Pentagon in 2017 after getting three Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) videos declassified.
“until finally, frustrated, he quit the Pentagon in 2017, but not before getting these three videos declassified.”
Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:10:39.5-00:10:47.3 administrative
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Christopher Mellon tried to help Luis Elizondo elevate the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue within the Department of Defense to the Secretary of Defense.
“I tried to help my colleague, Lou Elizondo, elevate the issue in the department and actually get it to the Secretary of Defense.”
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Luis Elizondo is a former intelligence officer with the United States government.
“My name is Luis Elizondo. I'm a former intelligence officer with the United States government.”
The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:10:09.2-00:10:13.1 administrative first hand
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Luis Elizondo was put in charge of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, a secretive Pentagon unit.
“The person the United States government put in charge of a secretive Pentagon unit called AATIP. The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.”
The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:10:19.3-00:10:31.1 administrative
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The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program determined that a real phenomenon is present in the sky, though its nature, method of operation, intent, and full capabilities remain unknown.
“Well, I think it is very clear that our organization determined the reality of something is in our sky. We don't know what it is. We don't know how it works. We have no idea its intent. and only seen some of its capabilities.”
The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:10:36.7-00:10:49.8 testimony first hand
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Luis Elizondo considers any technology superior to that of the American military inherently a threat.
“But by definition, anything, any technology that is superior to yours in the American military is a threat, isn't it? It is a potential threat.”
The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:11:02.1-00:11:12.0 opinion first hand
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Luis Elizondo considers any technology superior to that of the American military to be a potential national security threat.
“It is a potential threat. And for that reason, this is why it is a national security issue.”
The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:11:10.9-00:11:16.2 opinion first hand
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Luis Elizondo described the observed UAP technology as capable of instantaneous acceleration, hypersonic velocities, low observability, trans-medium travel, and anti-gravity, and able to fly unimpeded over controlled US airspace at will.
“If there is a technology that has somehow leapfrogged ahead of us, that has the capabilities that we're seeing, instantaneous acceleration, hypersonic velocities, low observability, trans-medium travel, and anti-gravity, and it has the ability to fly unimpeded over our controlled US airspace at will, and there's nothing we can do about it, yes, that's the national security imperative.”
The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:11:17.6-00:11:40.2 testimony first hand
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Leslie Kean was summoned to a meeting in a hotel lobby in Washington, D.C., where Christopher Mellon was present, for the purpose of introducing her to Luis Elizondo.
“Chris Mellon was there, and of course the purpose of it was for me to meet Lou Elizondo, so he was there. I was shown these documents that blew my mind.”
The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:13:06.6-00:13:15.2 testimony first hand
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Luis Elizondo considers the object encountered during the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter to have responded intelligently to David Fravor's actions.
“It is absolutely intelligent responding to his actions.”
The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:15:53.9-00:15:56.1 opinion first hand
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Luis Elizondo said the object involved in the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter disappeared instantaneously, and five seconds later a radar operator reported it was waiting at the aircraft's cap point.
“and then all of a sudden, bam, it's gone. Bing, disappears instantaneously. Five seconds later, you can do the math, one of the radar operators radios into the F-18 and says, sir, you're not gonna believe this, but the object is now waiting for you at your cap point.”
The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:16:34.0-00:16:52.4 testimony first hand
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Luis Elizondo observed that the object in the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter had no visible propulsion, no obvious signs of lift, no wings, no rudders, no control surfaces, no ailerons, no elevators, no cockpit, and no rivets.
“No visible propulsion. No obvious signs of lift. No wings. No rudders. No control surfaces. No ailerons. No elevators. No cockpit. No rivets.”
The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:18:24.8-00:18:32.2 observation first hand
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In his second resignation letter, Luis Elizondo stated that despite overwhelming evidence at both the unclassified and classified levels, certain individuals in the Department of Defense remained staunchly opposed to further research on anomalous aerospace threats.
“Despite overwhelming evidence at both the unclassified and classified levels, certain individuals in the Department remain staunchly opposed to further research on what could be a tactical threat to our pilots, sailors, and soldiers, and perhaps even an existential threat to our national security.”
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In his second resignation letter, Luis Elizondo considered the anomalous aerospace phenomena a potential tactical threat to pilots, sailors, and soldiers, and possibly an existential threat to national security.
“what could be a tactical threat to our pilots, sailors, and soldiers, and perhaps even an existential threat to our national security”
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In his second resignation letter, Luis Elizondo stated there seemed to be a direct correlation between the observed phenomena and US nuclear and military capabilities.
“In many instances, there seems to be a direct correlation the phenomena exhibits with respect to our nuclear and military capabilities.”
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In his second resignation letter, Luis Elizondo stated that the Department of Defense must take seriously the many accounts by the Navy and other services of unusual aerial systems interfering with military weapon platforms and displaying beyond next-generation capabilities.
“The Department must take serious the many accounts by the Navy and other Services of unusual aerial systems interfering with military weapon platforms and displaying beyond next generation capabilities.”
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In his second resignation letter, Luis Elizondo stated his resignation was intended to encourage the Secretary of Defense to ask who else knows about the anomalous aerospace threats, what their capabilities are, and why more time and effort was not being spent on the issue.
“For this reason, effective 4 October 2017, I humbly submit my resignation in hopes it will encourage you to ask the hard questions: "who else knows?", what are their capabilities?", and "why aren't we spending more time and effort on the issue?".”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:11242-11480 testimony first hand
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According to Garry Reid's second memorandum, Luis Elizondo provided three different explanations for his sudden resignation.
“Mr. Elizondo has provided three different explanations for his sudden resignation.”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:18851-18921 opinion first hand
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On 2017-10-03, Luis Elizondo told his direct supervisor he was resigning because he had a fleeting job opportunity that required his immediate availability.
“On October 3rd he told his direct supervisor he was resigning because he had a fleeting job opportunity that required his immediate availability.”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:18934-19066 testimony second hand
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In a memorandum dated 2017-10-04, Luis Elizondo cited his concerns over inaction within the Department of Defense on anomalous aerospace threats as the reason for his resignation.
“In a memorandum dated October 4th he cited his concerns over inaction within the Department over "anomalous aerospace threats" as the reason for his resignation.”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:19080-19229 testimony first hand
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On 2017-10-06, via a phone call, Luis Elizondo told Garry Reid he resigned because his job was too stressful on his family.
“On October 6th, via a phone call, he told me he resigned because his job was too stressful on his family.”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:19242-19340 testimony second hand
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The Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence referred the timing and circumstances of Luis Elizondo's resignation to the Air Force Office of Special Investigations for immediate counterintelligence review.
“Yes. We referred the timing and circumstances of Mr. Elizondo's resignation to the AFOSI.”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:19427-19510 administrative first hand
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The Air Force Office of Special Investigations' informal assessment did not find any wrongdoing by Luis Elizondo, and absent any indicators of misconduct they were unable to open a formal investigation.
“Their informal assessment did not find any wrongdoing by Mr. Elizondo, and absent any indicators of misconduct, they were unable to open a formal investigation.”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:19517-19663 administrative second hand
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Luis Elizondo completed all administrative and security related out-processing, including formal debriefs for all Special Access Programs and Sensitive Compartmented Information, between his October 3 resignation notification and his departure 24 hours later.
“Mr. Elizondo completed all administrative and security related out-processing, including formal debriefs for all SAPs, SCI,”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:19877-19996 administrative first hand
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Luis Elizondo's second resignation letter was hand delivered to the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI) Chief of Staff office by someone other than Luis Elizondo.
“The letter was hand delivered to the USDI Chief of Staff office by someone other than Mr. Elizondo.”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:20167-20257 testimony first hand
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Luis Elizondo's second resignation letter was not consistent with Luis Elizondo's first resignation letter, which Luis Elizondo personally handed to his supervisor.
“The letter is not consistent with the first resignation letter Mr. Elizondo personally handed his supervisor.”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:20267-20365 testimony first hand
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In a phone call with Garry Reid, Luis Elizondo said he had been secretly working for the Secretary of Defense.
“After my phone call with Mr. Elizondo, in which he said he had been secretly working for the Secretary”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:20377-20470 testimony second hand
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After his phone call with Luis Elizondo, Garry Reid checked with two senior officials who had knowledge of special access programmes regarding Luis Elizondo's claims.
“I checked with two senior officials that have knowledge of special programs; our collective assessment”
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Garry Reid and two senior officials with knowledge of special access programmes collectively assessed that Luis Elizondo's claims were not credible.
“was that Mr. Elizondo's claims were not credible, and the letter was not worthy of the Secretary's personal attention.”
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Garry Reid and two senior officials with knowledge of special access programmes assessed that Luis Elizondo's second resignation letter was not worthy of the Secretary of Defense's personal attention.
“was that Mr. Elizondo's claims were not credible, and the letter was not worthy of the Secretary's personal attention.”
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Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI) staff contacted the Navy civilian upon discovering the SIPRnet email sent to him by Luis Elizondo regarding declassification.
“USDI staff contacted him upon discovery of the SIPRnet email sent to him by Mr. Elizondo.”
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The Navy civilian contacted by Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI) staff told them that he had informed Luis Elizondo that he was not the declassification release authority.
“He informed us that he told Mr. Elizondo that he was not the declassification release authority, and took no further action.”
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The Navy civilian contacted by Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSDI) staff took no further action after telling Luis Elizondo he was not the declassification release authority.
“and took no further action.”
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Luis Elizondo, a former Department of Defense employee, aggrandized his role in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program in public statements.
“This memorandum summarizes recent media interest in the AATIP, which has been accentuated by the public statements of former DoD employee Luis Elizondo, who has aggrandized his role in the program.”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:4347-4536 opinion first hand
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Garry Reid was pursuing options to investigate Luis Elizondo's possible mishandling of sensitive information.
“We are collecting facts regarding Mr. Elizondo's actual role in the AATIP, reviewing the program's history with DIA, Navy, and Air Force, and pursuing options to investigate Mr. Elizondo's possible mishandling of sensitive information.”
FOIA Response 18-F-0324: AATIP and Luis Elizondo Documents 2022-08-17 char:4545-4768 administrative first hand
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Luis Elizondo was assigned to the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence from 2008-09-28 to 2017-10-04.
“Mr. Elizondo was assigned to OUSDI from September 28, 2008 to October 4, 2017.”
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Luis Elizondo subsequently served as a branch chief managing classified information to support the Office of Military Commissions.
“He served as an action officer in Partner Engagement, and subsequently as a branch chief managing classified information to support the Office of Military Commissions.”
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Luis Elizondo served as an action officer in Partner Engagement at the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence.
“He served as an action officer in Partner Engagement, and subsequently as a branch chief managing classified information to support the Office of Military Commissions.”
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Garry Reid states that, to the best of his knowledge, Luis Elizondo had no job responsibilities related to the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.
“To the best of my knowledge, he had no job responsibilities related to the AATIP.”
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On 2017-10-03, Luis Elizondo submitted a resignation letter requesting immediate termination of his employment.
“On October 3, 2017, Mr. Elizondo submitted a resignation letter (Tab B) requesting immediate termination of his employment.”
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Luis Elizondo was cleared out of the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence the day after submitting his first resignation letter.
“He was cleared out of USDI the next day.”
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Garry Reid states Luis Elizondo provided no reason for the sudden departure from the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence.
“He provided no reason for the sudden departure.”
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On or about 2017-10-04, after Luis Elizondo had departed, a second resignation letter was delivered to the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Chief of Staff office.
“On or about October 4, after Mr. Elizondo had departed the organization, a second resignation letter (Tab C) was delivered to the USDI Chief of Staff office.”
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Luis Elizondo's second resignation letter is formatted as a Memorandum for Record but uses the salutation Mr. Secretary.
“In this letter, which is formatted as a "Memorandum for Record" but uses the salutation "Mr. Secretary," Mr. Elizondo cites concerns over anomalous aerospace threats as the basis for his resignation.”
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In his second resignation letter, Luis Elizondo cites concerns over anomalous aerospace threats as the basis for his resignation.
“Mr. Elizondo cites concerns over anomalous aerospace threats as the basis for his resignation.”
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In a phone call on 2017-10-05, Luis Elizondo told Garry Reid that for many years he had been secretly tasked by the Secretary of Defense as the program manager for investigating UFOs and other aerial threats.
“In a phone call on October 5, when asked about the second letter, Mr. {{redacted: ~2 words}} told me that for many years he had been secretly tasked by the Secretary of Defense as the program manager for investigating UFOs and other aerial threats.”
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Luis Elizondo told Garry Reid that nobody in the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence was cleared for the secret program he described, and would not discuss it further.
“He said nobody in USDI was cleared for this program and would not discuss it further.”
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Garry Reid discussed Luis Elizondo's claims of a secret program with senior officials who would likely have known of such an arrangement but was unable to substantiate them.
“I discussed his claims with senior officials who would likely have known of such an arrangement, but was unable to substantiate them.”
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In his To the Stars Academy YouTube video, Luis Elizondo asserted that for nearly the last decade he ran a sensitive Aerospace Threat Identification Program focusing on unidentified aerial technologies.
“He asserts "for nearly the last decade I ran a sensitive Aerospace Threat Identification Program focusing on unidentified aerial technologies,"”
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In his To the Stars Academy YouTube video, Luis Elizondo said they were planning to provide never-before-released footage from real US government systems.
“and later says "we are (also) planning to provide never before released footage from real US government systems."”
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Following discovery of the YouTube video, Garry Reid requested an informal review of Luis Elizondo's conduct by the Air Force Office of Special Investigations.
“Following discovery of the YouTube video, I requested an informal review of Mr. Elizondo's conduct by the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI), which is responsible for providing investigative support to the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD), including investigation of assigned personnel.”
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In late November 2017, the Air Force Office of Special Investigations advised that, absent more tangible indicators of possible misconduct, they did not have enough information to open a case on Luis Elizondo.
“In late November AFOSI advised that absent more tangible indicators of possible misconduct they did not have enough information to open a case on Mr. Elizondo.”
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On 2017-12-15, based on information contained in The New York Times inquiry, Garry Reid notified the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence Security Officer that Luis Elizondo may have misused government systems and may intend to release US government footage or information he obtained during his employment with the office.
“On December 15, based on information contained in the NYT inquiry, I notified the OUSDI Security Officer that Mr. Elizondo may have misused government systems and may intend to release USG footage or information that he obtained during his employment with OUSD (I).”
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In the December 17, 2017 television interview, Luis Elizondo affirmed his alleged role in leading the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program and said 'we are not alone'.
“In the TV interview, Mr. Elizondo affirms his alleged role in leading the AATIP program and says "we are not alone..."”
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On 2017-12-18, the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence located a classified email generated by Luis Elizondo in August 2017 in which he requested assistance from a Navy civilian employee to declassify one or more videos.
“On December 18, OUSDI located a classified email generated by Mr. Elizondo in August 2017, in which he requested assistance from a Navy civilian employee to declassify one or more videos.”
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On 2017-12-21, Garry Reid met with Air Force Office of Special Investigations agents to initiate a formal inquiry into Luis Elizondo's possible mishandling of classified materials.
“On December 21, I met with AFOSI agents to initiate a formal inquiry into Mr. Elizondo's possible mishandling of classified materials.”
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In his first resignation letter dated 2017-10-03, Luis Elizondo submitted his resignation effective 2017-10-04 as Director, National Programs Special Management Staff, Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, and requested a deferred retirement.
“Effective 4 October 2017, I humbly submit my resignation as Director, National Programs Special Management Staff, Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence. In this regard, I understand I will no longer be an employee of the U.S. Government. I respectfully request I receive a "deferred retirement".”
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In his second resignation letter, Luis Elizondo stated he had served with America's finest men and women for over 22 years.
“It has been my sincere honor and pleasure to have served with some of America's finest men and women in both peace time and in war. For over 22 years, I have been blessed to learn from, and work with world-class leadership, you certainly being among the very best.”
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Jay Stratton was part of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) in the Pentagon, led by Luis Elizondo.
“Unbeknownst to all, he was part of the ATIP program in the Pentagon led by Lue Elizondo.”
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David Fravor was contacted by Luis Elizondo and spoke with him briefly.
“I was contacted by Mr. Elizondo, and we talked for a short period of time.”
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Luis Elizondo left the Pentagon in protest and joined with Tom DeLonge, Chris Mellon, and Steve Justice to form To the Stars Academy.
“Lue had left the Pentagon in protest and joined forces with Tom DeLonge, Chris Mellon, Steve Justice and others to form To the Stars Academy”
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Jay Stratton was part of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), led by Luis Elizondo out of the Department of Defense (DoD).
“Unbeknownst to all of us, Jay was part of the ATIP (Anomalous Threat Identification Program) program led by Lue Elizondo out of the DOD.”
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David Fravor was contacted by Luis Elizondo in 2016 shortly after speaking with Alex Dietrich, and they briefly chatted with Elizondo saying he would be in contact.
“I was contacted by Mr Elizondo shortly after talking with Alex in 2016. We briefly chatted and I was told that he would be in contact.”
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Luis Elizondo left the Pentagon in protest and joined Tom DeLonge, Chris Mellon, Steve Justice and others to form To The Stars Academy.
“In the weeks that passed I was made aware that Lue had left the pentagon in protest and joined forces with Tom Delonge, Chris Mellon, Steve Justice and others to form To The Stars Academy.”
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Luis Elizondo revealed he had resigned from the Department of Defence weeks before joining To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences, in protest at excessive secrecy and internal opposition about the UAP issue inside the government.
“Luis Elizondo who was to join TTSA, revealed he had resigned from the Department of Defence just weeks before in protest at the excessive secrecy and internal opposition about the UAP issue inside the government.”
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Luis Elizondo had been working for the Office of the Under-Secretary of Defence for Intelligence and Security (OUSDI).
“Elizondo had been working for the OUSDI, the Office of the Under-Secretary of Defence for Intelligence and Security.”
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Luis Elizondo served in Afghanistan, the Middle East and Latin America.
“He had served in Afghanistan, the Middle East and Latin America”
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Luis Elizondo was a trained senior Special Agent with top-secret compartmentalised clearances who had led operations against some of America's toughest adversaries.
“and was a trained senior Special Agent with top-secret compartmentalised clearances, who had led operations against some of America's toughest adversaries”
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In 2008, James Clapper personally hired Luis Elizondo into the Office of the Under-Secretary of Defence for Intelligence and Security, the office that acts as principal staff for the Department of Defense on sensitive intelligence-related matters, overseeing a cluster of three-letter DoD agencies including the Defense Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency.
“recognised Elizondo's skills and, in 2008, had personally hired him into the office that acts as the principal staff for the Department of Defence on sensitive intelligence-related matters, overseeing a cluster of three-letter DoD agencies, including the Defence Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency”
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After joining the Office of the Under-Secretary of Defence for Intelligence and Security, Luis Elizondo was tasked to join the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“Soon after joining OUSDI, Elizondo was tasked to join a special program described by a deliberately dull-sounding military acronym, AAWSAP, the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program.”
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Inside the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program, Luis Elizondo led the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the secretive Pentagon unit set up at Senator Harry Reid's urging to study Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“Inside that program, he led the Advance Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the secretive Pentagon unit set up at Senator Harry Reid's urging to study UAPs.”
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Luis Elizondo's mission in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was to conduct scientific-based intelligence investigations of incursions by Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) into controlled US airspace.
“As Elizondo's website acknowledges, his mission was 'to conduct scientific-based intelligence investigations of incursions by Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs) into controlled US airspace'.”
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Luis Elizondo maintains that the Pentagon secretly continued its investigations into Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) after 2012.
“Elizondo maintains that the Pentagon secretly continued its investigations into UAPs.”
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In 2017, after nine years in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program and its Department of Defence replacement, Luis Elizondo left the Pentagon because his efforts to investigate Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) were being obstructed from within.
“In 2017, after nine years in AATIP and its Department of Defence replacement, Luis Elizondo left the Pentagon because his efforts to investigate UAPs were being obstructed from within.”
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In a letter to Jim Mattis, his former boss in Afghanistan and then Defence Secretary, Luis Elizondo asked why more time and effort was not being spent on the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue.
“'Why aren't we spending more time and effort on this issue?' Elizondo complained in a letter to his former boss in Afghanistan, Jim Mattis, now Defence Secretary.”
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In his letter to Jim Mattis, Luis Elizondo said that despite overwhelming evidence at both classified and unclassified levels, certain individuals in the Defence Department remained staunchly opposed to further research on what could be a tactical threat to US pilots, sailors and soldiers, and perhaps even an existential threat to national security.
“'Despite overwhelming evidence at both the classified and unclassified levels, certain individuals in the [Defence] Department remain staunchly opposed to further research on what could be a tactical threat to our pilots, sailors and soldiers, and perhaps even an existential threat to our national security.'”
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After the New York Times story on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program broke, Luis Elizondo became the public face of To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences.
“In the days after the *Times* story on the AATIP program broke, Luis Elizondo became the public face of TTSA”
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Luis Elizondo told CNN that he and his team had identified some interesting anomalous aircraft that have no obvious flight surfaces or propulsion, manoeuvre with extreme manoeuvrability beyond healthy G-forces for a human or biological pilot, achieve hypersonic velocities, exhibit low observability and positive lift, and seemingly defy the laws of aerodynamics.
“'We found a lot,' Elizondo told CNN. 'I think that what's important is that we have identified some very interesting anomalous type of aircraft, let's call them aircraft. Things that don't have any obvious flight surfaces, any obvious forms of propulsion, and manoeuvring in ways that include extreme manoeuvrability beyond, I would submit, the healthy G-forces of a human or anything biological, hypersonic velocities, low observability, positive lift. Again, seemingly defying the laws of aerodynamics.'”
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When pressed by CNN's Erin Burnett on whether he thought the Tic Tac objects were aliens, Luis Elizondo initially said he wanted to allow the data to speak for itself and use it to inform senior Department of Defense leadership about the potential threat these technologies pose to national security, especially over controlled airspace, and said there were a lot of possibilities.
“'What I wanted to do was to allow the data to speak for itself and then use that data to inform leadership, senior DoD leadership about the potential threat that these type of technologies pose to national security, especially over any types of controlled airspace that we might have. So, I'm not trying to be evasive in any way or vague with your answer, but I think there's a lot of possibilities,' he said, evasively.”
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When Erin Burnett asked Luis Elizondo point-blank whether he believed life from somewhere else came here, visited and observed while he ran the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, Elizondo said that through the observations and scientific methodologies applied to the phenomena, the aircraft display characteristics not currently within the US inventory nor any foreign inventory he is aware of.
“Burnett pressed the question, asking, 'Let me just ask you point-blank the question, do you believe that life from somewhere else while you ran this program, came here, visited, observed?' Luis Elizondo answered, 'I will tell you unequivocally that through the observations, scientific methodologies that were applied to look at this phenomena, that these aircraft, we'll call them aircraft, are displaying characteristics that are not currently within the US inventory, nor in any foreign inventory that we are aware of.'”
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After Erin Burnett pressed him further on whether the answer to whether aliens have visited was yes, Luis Elizondo said his personal belief is that there is very compelling evidence that we may not be alone, though he could not speak on behalf of the government since he was no longer in it.
“She pushed, 'So I know you're using – you're being clear but, I mean, the answer's yes?' ... 'Aaah, my personal – I can't speak on behalf of the government obviously, I'm not in the US government anymore,' Elizondo responded. 'My personal belief is that ah, there is very compelling evidence that we ah, *we may not be alone,* whatever that means.'”
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Speculation mounted for months that Christopher Mellon, Luis Elizondo, and Steve Justice were leaving To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences.
“Speculation had mounted for months that former Defence Department mandarin Christopher Mellon and key figures Luis Elizondo and Steve Justice were leaving TTSA.”
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It took Tom DeLonge several months to formally admit to the Securities and Exchange Commission that Christopher Mellon, Luis Elizondo, and Steve Justice had departed To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences.
“it took Tom DeLonge several more months to formally admit to the Securities Exchange Commission not only their departure”
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To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences' Luis Elizondo coined the phrase 'The Five Observables' to describe characteristics most commonly seen in UAP.
“To emphasise just how anomalous these unknown aerospace vehicles are, TTSA’s Luis Elizondo coined a phrase, ‘The Five Observables’, the characteristics most commonly seen in UAPs.”
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The first of Luis Elizondo's Five Observables is that UAP display an apparent ability to fly with positive lift or anti-gravity, without any apparent means of propulsion or lift.
“The first is that these UAVs are capable of ‘positive lift or anti-gravity’. They display an apparent ability to fly without any apparent means of propulsion or lift.”
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The second of Luis Elizondo's Five Observables is 'instantaneous acceleration', reaching a high rate of speed in a short amount of time.
“Secondly, they have ‘instantaneous acceleration’. They reach a high rate of speed in a short amount of time.”
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Luis Elizondo said UAP have been observed performing 50 to over 200 G-forces, and that materials are not designed to withstand those forces.
“‘We are seeing objects that are doing 50, 100, 200 plus G-forces,’ said Elizondo. ‘Materials just aren’t designed to withstand those forces.’”
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The third of Luis Elizondo's Five Observables is 'hypersonic velocity', with craft travelling at speeds far beyond the performance limits of any known aircraft.
“The third observable is ‘hypersonic velocity’. These craft are travelling at speeds far beyond the speed performance limits of any known aircraft.”
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Luis Elizondo said observed UAP travel at speeds potentially of approximately 13,000 to 16,000 kilometres per hour, well beyond expected performance limits for an object accelerating in three-dimensional space.
“‘As an object is travelling in three-dimensional space, the faster it goes, the more forces are placed upon it. And yet, here is an object that is doing well in advance of those speeds and I don’t mean just three or four thousand miles an hour, potentially 8, 9, 10,000 miles per hour.’”
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The fourth of Luis Elizondo's Five Observables is 'low observability', where craft conceal themselves from radar or tracking.
“The fourth observable, ironically, is ‘low observability’. All of these craft can conceal themselves from any kind of radar or tracking.”
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Luis Elizondo said an observed UAP that should be clearly detectable appears opaque, blurry and not well defined to the naked eye, and sometimes appears to jam some of the best radar systems in the US inventory.
“‘You’re looking at an object that you should be able to detect very clearly and yet when you look at it with the naked eye it’s opaque, kind of blurry, not well defined, I’m not really sure what I’m looking at. Other times it looks like it’s jamming some of the best radar systems that we have in our inventory,’ Elizondo explained.”
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The fifth of Luis Elizondo's Five Observables is 'trans-medium travel', where UAP appear able to move seamlessly through space, air and water with little apparent disruption to their motion.
“Fifth and finally, the UAPs display ‘trans-medium travel’. One of the most baffling attributes of these craft is that they seem to have the ability to seamlessly move through space, air and water with little if any apparent disruption to their motion.”
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Luis Elizondo said that unlike purpose-built vehicles designed for a specific environment, an observed object can operate in atmosphere, space and potentially underwater without changing its design characteristics, which he considers would be a game-changer if any single one of the five observable characteristics were possessed by a foreign adversary.
“‘Everything we build is purpose specific for its environment. A plane looks like a plane, has wings, has engines, has a rudder, has a nose because it has to be aerodynamic. Yet here’s an object that can operate just as easily in atmosphere, in space and potentially even underwater and yet it doesn’t change its design characteristics. What type of technology could allow that? Any one of these, mind, would be an absolute game-changer for any foreign adversary to have. Just one of them. It would be a game changer and yet here we have things doing all five,’ Elizondo emphasised.”
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Luis Elizondo said that some of the material obtained by To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences has provenance that is frankly hearsay, while the provenance of some other material has been substantiated.
“'Our company over the last year and a half has actually obtained quite a bit of material. And let me first preface, some of that material, its provenance is frankly hearsay,' Elizondo admitted. 'While other – the provenance of some of this material – is, has been substantiated.'”
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In a 2019 lecture to the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies, Luis Elizondo showed a composite picture of retrieved metamaterials held by To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences, saying some samples are absolutely special, have been briefed to very senior levels of the government, do remarkable and extraordinary things, and to that day could not be replicated.
“He showed his audience a composite picture of some of the retrieved metamaterials held by TTSA, telling them, 'I won't point out which one's on that slide but there are some that are absolutely special and have been briefed to some very, very senior levels of this government. And they do remarkable and extraordinary things. And they're built in such a way that to this day, we still can't replicate them. To this day. So that should be very telling.'”
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In May 2019, in an interview with Fox News' Tucker Carlson, Luis Elizondo dismissed claims that unidentified aerial phenomena objects do not exist, saying it is an absolute fact that they are there, but what they are, where they are from, and who is behind the wheel is not known.
“In an interview with Fox News' Tucker Carlson in May 2019, Elizondo dismissed claims that the unidentified aerial phenomena objects do not exist, saying, 'It is an absolute fact that they are there. Now, what they are, where they are from, who is behind the wheel, we simply don't know.'”
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Luis Elizondo told Tucker Carlson it was unlikely that the unidentified aerial phenomena observed were foreign country adversaries flying craft in US airspace.
“He told Carlson it was unlikely they were foreign country adversaries flying craft in US airspace.”
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Tucker Carlson asked Luis Elizondo, based on his decade serving in the US government on this question, whether the US government has in its possession any material from one of these aircraft, and Elizondo responded that he does.
“'Let me ask you one last question,' Carlson asked. 'Do you believe, based on your decade of serving in the US government on this question, that the US government has in its possession any material from one of these aircrafts?' 'Oh . . . I do. Yes,' Elizondo responded.”
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Tucker Carlson asked Luis Elizondo whether the US government has debris from a UFO in its possession right now, and Elizondo answered that he had to be careful of his non-disclosure agreement (NDA) and could not go into more detail.
“'Do you think the US government has debris from a UFO in its possession right now?' asked Carlson, clearly surprised at Elizondo's candour. 'Unfortunately, Tucker, I really have to be careful of my NDA [non-disclosure agreement],' Elizondo answered, looking uncomfortable. 'I really can't go into a lot more detail than that—.'”
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Tucker Carlson asked Luis Elizondo whether the US government has debris from a UFO in its possession, and Elizondo answered simply put, yes.
“does he think the US government has debris from a UFO in its possession? 'Aaah, simply put, yes.'”
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No one in the US government has sought to rebut Luis Elizondo's claims about recovered UFO debris or called him a liar.
“Significantly, no one in the US government has since sought to rebut his claims or called him a liar.”
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The Pentagon attempted to suggest that Luis Elizondo never ran the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) UFO research investigation, but the claim was refuted.
“The Pentagon did make a feeble attempt to suggest that Elizondo never ran the Pentagon's AATIP UFO research investigation, but the claim blew up in its face.”
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Luis Elizondo admitted to colleagues that he received a heavy reprimand from his former Department of Defence colleagues for his candour in the Tucker Carlson interview.
“I also hear that Elizondo admitted to colleagues he copped a heavy reprimand from his former Department of Defence colleagues for his candour in that Tucker Carlson interview.”
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Luis Elizondo had recently worked out of the office of the Under Secretary for the US Defence Department with an extremely high security clearance.
“this was one hell of an admission from a former senior military intelligence official who had only recently worked out of the office of the Under Secretary for the US Defence Department with an extremely high security clearance”
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Eric Davis said Luis Elizondo's answer to Tucker Carlson's question about whether the US government is in possession of recovered, crashed and landed UFO technology hardware is 1,000% accurate, and that his national security non-disclosure agreements prevented him from adding further comment.
“'Luis Elizondo's very brief answer to Tucker Carlson's question about whether the US government is in possession of recovered, crashed and landed [my emphasis] UFO technology hardware is 1,000% accurate. My national security NDAs prevent me from adding any further comment on this.'”
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Both Luis Elizondo and Eric Davis have asserted that the United States is in possession of technology from non-human craft, claiming their national security oath blocks them from saying anything more.
“Both Elizondo and Davis have asserted that the United States is in possession of technology from non-human craft, claiming their national security oath blocks them from saying anything more.”
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In the Unidentified documentary series on the History Channel, Luis Elizondo tells Steve Justice, then Director of To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences' aerospace division, that the company has multiple metamaterials samples from numerous sources, including government sources.
“Season one of TTSA's Unidentified documentary series on the History Channel has a sequence where Luis Elizondo tells the then Director of the company's aerospace division, Steve Justice, that they now have multiple metamaterials samples from numerous sources, including government sources.”
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Luis Elizondo was a former career counter-intelligence officer with the Defence Department, who most recently worked out of the office of the Director of National Intelligence.
“Luis Elizondo was a former career counter-intelligence officer with the Defence Department, who worked most recently out of the office of the Director of National Intelligence.”
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The 'AATIP Preliminary Assessments' slide stated that preliminary evidence indicated the United States was incapable of defending itself against some of the technologies observed, and that the nature of these technologies and the lack of US countermeasures was considered Highly Sensitive.
“One of the slides, headed 'AATIP Preliminary Assessments', shows that Elizondo's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program privately advised the Defence Department that 'Preliminary evidence indicates that the United States is incapable of defending itself towards some of those technologies . . . The nature of these technologies and the fact that the United States has no countermeasures is considered Highly Sensitive'.”
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Categorical statements made by Eric Davis and Luis Elizondo, together with more qualified assertions by Christopher Mellon and Harry Reid, suggest the United States has recovered non-human intelligently manufactured technology.
“The categorical statements made by defence and intelligence insiders Dr Eric Davis and Luis Elizondo (and the more qualified assertions by Christopher Mellon and former Senator Harry Reid) suggest that the United States has indeed recovered non-human intelligently manufactured technology”
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Christopher Mellon, in facilitating meetings between US Navy pilots and congressional oversight committees along with Luis Elizondo, found the United States Air Force notably unhelpful, if not hostile, to inquiries on the subject of UAP.
“Pointedly, Mellon went on to savage the US Air Force for being, 'notably *unhelpful* [his emphasis], if not hostile to inquiries on the subject,' when he and Luis Elizondo facilitated meetings between US Navy pilots and the congressional oversight committees.”
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Luis Elizondo was formerly the head of the Pentagon's UAP investigations team.
“Contrast that DOD response with what Luis Elizondo, a former head of the Pentagon’s UAP investigations team, told the UK’s *GQ* magazine in late 2021:”
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Luis Elizondo believes it is his strong opinion that the US government is in possession of exotic material associated with UAP.
“that it’s my opinion, my belief – a strong belief, hint, hint – that the US government is in possession of exotic material associated with UAPs. That is all I am allowed to say.”
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Luis Elizondo declined to say whether organic matter or beings had been recovered in connection with UAP.
“Q: Do you believe organic matter or beings have been recovered? A: I am respectfully going to pass on that question. There’s a couple questions that I’m really not at liberty to discuss. That’s one of them.”
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Luis Elizondo believes UAP are intelligently controlled because they respond and react to human actions.
“They’re intelligently controlled, for sure, because they’re responding and reacting to our actions. That is for certain. They are absolutely intelligently controlled by something.’”
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Luis Elizondo considers that humanity may not be alone in the universe.
“Erin Burnett, interview with Luis Elizondo, 'Ex-UFO Program Chief: We May Not Be Alone', CNN Outfront, 19 December 2017.”
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Joe Murgia transcribed a Glenn Beck interview with Christopher Mellon and Luis Elizondo, published 2020-05-09, in which they stated F/A-18 pilots had testified about the Tic Tac UFO before "very senior DoD staff" in Secretary Jim Mattis's suite.
“Joe Murgia transcript of Glenn Beck interview 8 May 2020 with Christopher Mellon and Lue Elizondo, 'Transcript: Mellon & Elizondo on Beck: F-18 Pilots Testified About Tic Tac UFO Before "Very Senior DoD Staff" In Secretary Mattis' Suite', 9 May 2020.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch34:52608-52853 testimony third hand
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Luis Elizondo was a former senior US Defense Department intelligence officer who led the Pentagon's secret UFO investigation team, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.
“Former senior US Defense Department intelligence officer Luis Elizondo, who led the Pentagon's secret UFO investigation team, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.”
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Luis Elizondo lives near the Devil's Tower Monument in Wyoming, featured in the film Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
“Aptly, Elizondo lives near the Wyoming Devil's Tower Monument featured in the extra-terrestrial movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind.”
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Luis Elizondo drew a comparison between the manoeuvring of the object in the GIMBAL video and the docking manoeuvres of the Apollo Lunar Module approaching the lunar orbiter.
“The GIMBAL maneuvered in a way that reminded me of the old Apollo 11 lunar module... If you compare that maneuver to the way in which the object in the GIMBAL video rotates, you will see an uncanny resemblance.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 00:00:13.0-00:00:15.0 opinion first hand
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Tom DeLonge offered Luis Elizondo the role of chief of security and special programs at To The Stars Academy, at a salary lower than Elizondo had earned at the Pentagon, and required him to relocate to California.
“he made me an offer to join TTSA as chief of security and special programs...The salary offered was much less than I was earning at the Pentagon...To do this, Tom insisted that I relocate to California.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 111-111 testimony first hand
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The pilot who witnessed the 1999 Puerto Rico Navy cruise missile recovery UAP encounter described the object as black as the devil, with the water beginning to churn and roll like a witch's brew.
“The pilot told me that it was black as the devil and the water began to churn and roll like a witch's brew.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 15-17 testimony second hand
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Harold Puthoff told Luis Elizondo that a UAP crash occurred at Roswell, New Mexico in 1947 and that the crash was covered up by the government.
““Well… it all goes back to Roswell in 1947.” ... “You mean to tell me that a UAP actually crashed and we covered it up?” “That’s exactly what happened,” he replied.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 78-94 testimony first hand
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Paulo Roberto Yog de Miranda Uchôa distributed vintage photographs of evidence compiled by Uyrange Hollanda's team documenting Colares Incidents victims.
“Uchôa distributed a few vintage photographs of the evidence compiled by Hollanda’s team.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:13378-13461 testimony first hand
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In 2003, while serving as special agent in charge in Kuwait, Lue Elizondo was called out at night by one of his agents to Arifjan, Kuwait, to investigate an unusual finding.
“Back in Kuwait in 2003, I was assigned as the special agent in charge (SAC). One of my agents rang me in the middle of the night from one of our satellite offices in the middle of the desert, Arifjan.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:13627-13819 testimony first hand
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The National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), Robert Bigelow's research organisation, studied Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and the paranormal during the 1990s.
“The National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), his research organization, had studied UAP and the paranormal back in the 1990s.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:1387-1514 administrative first hand
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At Camp New York in Kuwait during the ramp-up to the US-led invasion of Iraq, the United States military pre-positioned M1 Abrams tanks arranged in a platoon-like formation of approximately ten tanks deep by ten tanks wide.
“During the ramp-up to the US-led invasion of Iraq, the US employed staging areas to pre-position military equipment and vehicles with names such as “Camp New York.” At this camp, the US military would pre-position the tanks for their inevitable invasion into Iraq. The tanks were arranged in a platoonlike formation of approximately ten tanks deep by ten tanks wide.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:14311-14672 observation first hand
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Lue Elizondo found a small, perfectly round hole punched straight through the armoured side of an M1 Abrams tank at Camp New York, Kuwait, with no rough edges and no visible signs of heat ablation or metal vitrification.
“The beam revealed a small hole punched through the armored side of the tank. Perfectly round, no rough edges. Superficially, I saw no signs of heat ablation or metal vitrification. He angled the flashlight. The hole went straight through the body of the tank and out the other side.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:15169-15446 observation first hand
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Harry Reid counted Robert Bigelow among his friends.
“Senator Harry Reid counted Bob among his friends”
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The M1 Abrams tank is designed to take a direct hit from a missile and survive, with the sides and front being its most heavily armoured sections.
“The M1 tank is the crown jewel of the American field arsenal because it’s designed to take a direct hit from a missile and survive. The sides and front are the most heavily armored sections of the tank.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:15631-15854 administrative first hand
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Robert Bigelow's firm Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) was the prime contractor for the programme Lue Elizondo joined.
“Bob’s firm, Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS), was the program’s prime contractor.”
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A sabot round, a tungsten projectile moving at hypersonic speeds, is the only munition Lue Elizondo knew of that could puncture the side of an M1 Abrams tank, but a sabot hit would have caused complete destruction of the tank's interior, unlike the clean hole he observed.
“I knew of only one thing that could puncture the side of a tank—a sabot round, which is a little like a spear made of solid tungsten moving at hypersonic speeds. But a sabot hitting its mark would have caused the complete and utter destruction of the tank and destroyed its interior. This incident was of an eerily different order.”
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A second M1 Abrams tank next to the first at Camp New York, Kuwait showed precisely the same puncture damage, penetrated by a single clean hole through both tanks.
“In his excitement to show me the hole, the NCO failed to mention that the tank next to it showed precisely the same sabotage. Whatever caused this seemed to penetrate the sides of two of our best tanks with one clean hole through both.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:16324-16554 observation second hand
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A Bedouin goat herder told the Military Police that he had seen a brilliant green flash in the night sky directly over the tanks at Camp New York, Kuwait.
“The only clue we had came from a goat herder, a Bedouin who had tended to his flock in the night. He told the Military Police he’d seen a brilliant green flash in the night sky, directly over the tanks.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:16601-16797 hearsay second hand
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The two damaged M1 Abrams tanks from Camp New York, Kuwait were shipped to the Yuma Proving Ground in Arizona for analysis, and Lue Elizondo never learned the findings, as the analysis was classified as a Top Secret Special Access Program (SAP).
“the two tanks were immediately taken to the port, loaded aboard a transport ship, and shipped to the Yuma Proving Ground in Arizona for analysis. I never did learn the findings. The powers that be classified the analysis a “Top Secret SAP.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:16960-17195 testimony first hand
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Harold Puthoff was also in attendance at the programme dinner in Roslyn, Virginia.
“Also in attendance was Harold “Hal” Puthoff, a legendary figure in government and intel community research circles.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:1700-1807 observation first hand
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Paulo Roberto Yog de Miranda Uchôa admitted that the Brazilian government had covered up what happened during the Colares Incidents.
“Uchôa casually admitted that the Brazilian government had covered up what happened in Colares.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:17731-17817 testimony second hand
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Harold Puthoff is a physicist and engineer.
“He is a physicist, an engineer, and a man of deep mystery when it comes to some of America’s most sensitive and controversial projects.”
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Harold Puthoff worked for over fifty years as chief scientist on highly classified projects for the United States government.
“For over fifty years, he worked as the chief scientist on highly classified projects for the government.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:1952-2045 administrative first hand
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Harold Puthoff had, in various past capacities, regularly reported directly to the White House and the director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
“In various past capacities, he had regularly reported directly to the White House and the director of the CIA.”
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Harold Puthoff was the programme's chief scientist.
“He was the program’s chief scientist.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:2329-2356 administrative first hand
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Harold Puthoff earned his PhD from Stanford University in 1967.
“Hal earned his PhD from Stanford University in 1967.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:2368-2415 administrative first hand
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Harold Puthoff's professional background spans decades of research at General Electric, Sperry Corporation, the National Security Agency (NSA), Stanford University, and SRI International.
“His professional background spans decades of research at General Electric, Sperry, the NSA, Stanford University, and SRI International”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:2421-2542 administrative first hand
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Harold Puthoff served almost every United States government entity, including the Department of Defense (DoD) and agencies within the intelligence community such as the National Security Agency (NSA), as a senior scientific advisor.
“he has served almost every government entity (for example, the Department of Defense and agencies within the intelligence community, such as the NSA) as a senior scientific advisor.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:2561-2734 administrative first hand
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Harold Puthoff published numerous papers on quantum physics, lasers, and space propulsion.
“He published numerous papers on quantum physics, lasers, and space propulsion”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:2743-2810 administrative first hand
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Harold Puthoff had patents issued in the laser, energy, and communications fields.
“had patents issued in the laser, energy, and communications fields, which I suggest reading.”
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Lue Elizondo's career path had briefly crossed with Harold Puthoff's when Elizondo was a young soldier in the United States Army, though Elizondo first met Puthoff in person at the programme dinner in Roslyn, Virginia.
“When I was still a young soldier in the Army, my career path had crossed briefly with Hal’s. But I met him for the first time in person that evening.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:2920-3061 testimony first hand
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Jim Semivan introduced Lue Elizondo and others to Paulo Roberto Yog de Miranda Uchôa, a Brazilian general, along with his daughter and personal translator.
“Jim introduced us all to a Brazilian general by the name of Paulo Roberto Yog de Miranda Uchôa, and his daughter and personal translator.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:3300-3426 testimony first hand
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Paulo Roberto Yog de Miranda Uchôa was Brazil's top drug czar and a four-star general.
“Highly placed in their government, and well regarded, General Uchôa was Brazil’s top drug czar and a four-star general.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:3438-3549 administrative first hand
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In the 1970s Alfredo Moacyr de Mendonça Uchôa launched the Brazilian Center for UAP Studies.
“In the 1970s, his late father, General Alfredo Moacyr de Mendonça Uchôa, launched the Brazilian Center for UAP Studies”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:3558-3669 administrative first hand
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Alfredo Moacyr de Mendonça Uchôa devoted more than thirty years of his life to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and other paranormal and mystical studies.
“and devoted more than thirty years of his life to that subject and other paranormal and mystical studies.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:3678-3775 administrative first hand
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Alfredo Moacyr de Mendonça Uchôa was known as "the Star General."
“The elder Uchôa had been known as “the Star General.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:3784-3828 administrative first hand
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Paulo Roberto Yog de Miranda Uchôa became the point man for a massive archive associated with Brazil's most disturbing Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encounters.
“He had become the point man for a massive archive associated with Brazil’s most disturbing UAP encounters.”
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The lead contractor flew in on his private Gulfstream V jet to attend the programme dinner in Roslyn, Virginia.
“The lead contractor was flying in on his private Gulfstream V jet to attend.”
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At the time of the dinner, the programme run by Jim Semivan was not sharing Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) data with other nations, out of concern for national security.
“At this point in time, Jim’s program wasn’t sharing UAP data with other nations, out of a concern for national security.”
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Paulo Roberto Yog de Miranda Uchôa had befriended a still-living Brazilian colonel who had originally investigated Brazil's most fascinating cases, spanning thirty years.
“General Uchôa had befriended a Brazilian colonel, still living, who had originally investigated Brazil’s most fascinating cases, spanning thirty years.”
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Robert Bigelow's team planned to compile a database listing every factoid of the Brazil Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) events so it could be searched instantly and scanned for commonalities.
“Bob Bigelow’s team planned to compile a database listing every single factoid of the Brazil events, so it could be searched instantly and scanned for commonalities.”
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In the mid-1970s, for several years running, people living along the coast of northeastern Brazil noticed strange lights and aircraft that buzzed their small towns and villages at night.
“I learned that in the mid-1970s, for several years running, people living along the coast of northeastern Brazil noticed strange lights and aircraft that buzzed their small towns and villages at night.”
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Robert Bigelow is a billionaire hotelier, developer, and aerospace magnate.
“The billionaire hotelier, developer, and aerospace magnate Robert Bigelow joined us.”
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Robert Bigelow was the lead contractor on the programme that Lue Elizondo joined.
“He was the contractor I had been told about.”
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Lue Elizondo had never heard of the Colares Incidents before the dinner in Roslyn, Virginia.
“Before that evening, I’d never heard of these occurrences.”
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Lue Elizondo was invited by Jim Semivan and Jay Stratton to a large group dinner for the programme team held in the private meeting room of a hotel in Roslyn, Virginia.
“Shortly after I accepted the role, Jim and Jay invited me to a large group dinner for the team that was held in the private meeting room of a hotel in Roslyn, Virginia.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:90-249 testimony first hand
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In the 1960s both the United States and the Soviet Union explored the development of psychotronic weapons intended to aim a beam at a distant enemy and influence their behaviour and perception.
“In the 1960s, both the US and the Soviet Union flirted with the development of psychotronic weapons. They wanted to see if it was possible to stand far away from your enemy, aim some kind of beam at them, and influence their behavior and perception.”
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Paulo Roberto Yog de Miranda Uchôa's description of the Colares Incidents was not consistent with any known Soviet strategy or capability, and was closer to H. G. Wells's War of the Worlds, an airborne alien invasion.
“But what Uchôa described was not consistent with any known Soviet strategy or capability. His scenario was closer to H. G. Wells’s *War of the Worlds*. An airborne alien invasion.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:9777-9947 opinion first hand
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At age nine, Luis Elizondo took his first flying lesson aboard a rented Cessna.
“At age nine I climbed aboard a rented Cessna for my first flying lesson.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch11:10314-10379 administrative first hand
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Luis Elizondo flew a Cessna approximately 1,200 metres over the beaches of Sarasota, Florida on his first flying lesson.
“In a matter of minutes I flew 4,000 feet over the beaches of Sarasota, scattering seagulls in my wake and feeling my heart pound in my chest.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch11:10490-10625 measurement first hand
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Luis Elizondo's father was preparing him for participation in Alpha 66, a rebranded successor to Brigade 2506 intended to train new generations of Cubans for a reinvasion of Cuba.
“Later I learned that my father was preparing me for something called "Alpha 66," a slightly rebranded Brigade 2506 in which the new generations of Cubans were to be trained for the reinvasion of their country.”
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Luis Elizondo's wrestling coach, Coach Jones, urged him to consider his high school's Junior ROTC programme after seeing him headed down a troubled and self-destructive path.
“My wrestling coach, Coach Jones, saw I was headed down a troubled and self-destructive path and urged me to consider my high school's Junior ROTC program.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch11:1115-1261 administrative first hand
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Janise Elizondo grew up in Kentucky and had a mixed heritage described as part Lebanese, part Ashkenazi Jew, part Cherokee, and part French.
“Part Lebanese, part Ashkenazi Jew, part Cherokee, part French, part everything else, Janise (pronounced Jan-NEECE) had grown up in Kentucky.”
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Janise Elizondo was a professional model and a onetime Playboy bunny in Chicago.
“She was beautiful, a professional model and a onetime Playboy bunny in Chicago.”
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Luis D. Elizondo III opened a successful Italian restaurant called Michelangelo's, located in St. Armands Circle in Sarasota, Florida.
“He saved every dime he earned and opened what became a successful Italian restaurant called Michelangelo's, located in the exclusive St. Armands Circle in Sarasota.”
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Luis Elizondo's parents split when he was ten years old.
“Mom and Dad split when I was ten years old.”
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Luis Elizondo entered the premedical program at the University of Miami and double-majored in microbiology and immunology.
“So I entered into the premedical program at the University of Miami, and double majored in microbiology and immunology.”
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Luis Elizondo joined the United States Army after college.
“So when most of my friends were finding their careers, I saw no choice but to join the US Army.”
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Luis Elizondo enlisted as an Army grunt rather than accepting an officer commission, to avoid being assigned to the medical corps against his preference.
“I was initially offered an officer commission, given that I already had a college degree. But if I went that route, I would have no choice in my Military Occupational Specialty... So, instead I enlisted as an Army grunt.”
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Luis Elizondo trained as an Army counterintelligence special agent, an occupational specialty called a 97-Bravo.
“Once qualified as a soldier, I was trained as a counterintelligence special agent, what everyone in the Army called a 97-Bravo.”
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Luis Elizondo's first Army assignment was to South Korea, shortly after he and Jennifer, now married, had conceived their first child.
“My first assignment was to South Korea, just after Jennifer and I, now married, had conceived our first child.”
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While in South Korea, Luis Elizondo worked with the Korean Central Intelligence Agency, the Korean National Police, and on a Special Projects surveillance team.
“I spent much of my time in Korea working with the Korean CIA (KCIA), with the Korean National Police (KNP), or on a Special Projects surveillance team.”
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Luis Elizondo received special permission from his commander to moonlight as a security officer and bouncer to help make ends meet on a salary of $17,000 a year.
“a salary of $17,000 a year. I received special permission from my commander to moonlight as a security officer and, once again, a bouncer in order to help make ends meet.”
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The 902nd Military Intelligence Group, headquartered at Fort Meade, Maryland, was Luis Elizondo's second assignment.
“The 902nd MI Group out of Fort Meade, Maryland, was my second assignment”
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Luis Elizondo's duty station during his assignment to the 902nd Military Intelligence Group was Fort Huachuca, Arizona.
“my duty station was Fort Huachuca, Arizona”
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Luis Elizondo conducted counterintelligence investigations in Nevada, California, and Arizona to protect new technologies developed by the United States government, including laser weapons, unmanned aerial vehicles, and rocket engines.
“I conducted counterintelligence investigations in three states—Nevada, California, and Arizona—to protect the new technologies developed by our government. Laser weapons, unmanned aerial vehicles, rocket engines, and tons of aerospace.”
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Luis Elizondo's primary job in counterintelligence was to lock down sensitive, top secret technology from foreign spies targeting major defence contractors including TRW, Raytheon, Boeing, and Lockheed.
“My primary job was to lock down sensitive, top secret technology from foreign spies who were targeting major defense contractors like TRW, Raytheon, Boeing, and Lockheed.”
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Two Air Force Office of Special Investigations agents told Luis Elizondo that a walk-in contractor claiming he could make planes invisible actually worked for the Air Force on one of its most sensitive technologies, and requested Elizondo's file on the man.
“"That guy actually works for us, and we need whatever file you have on him." ... "He is a contractor for one of our most sensitive technologies."”
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Luis Elizondo was recommended by Lieutenant Colonel Michael Seage for a position in the Army's "Great Skills" programme.
“I was recommended by Lieutenant Colonel Michael Seage, a mentor of mine, for a new position in a specialized cadre I had never heard of, the Army's "Great Skills" program.”
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Eugene Lessman flew from Hanover, Virginia, to meet Luis Elizondo about the Great Skills programme.
“Gene had flown from Hanover, Virginia, to see me.”
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Eugene Lessman told Luis Elizondo that the Great Skills programme was also called Grey Fox.
“I was later told by Gene that the Great Skills program was also called Grey Fox.”
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Eugene Lessman also recruited soldiers into Project Stargate.
“I later found out that Gene also spotted and recruited soldiers into another highly secret operation called Stargate, or at least what was left of it.”
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A Project Stargate remote viewer located a crashed Russian supersonic jet in the Democratic Republic of the Congo that US and Russian satellites had been unable to locate.
“its psychics once located a Russian supersonic jet that crashed somewhere over Africa. Our best satellites couldn't locate it, and neither could the Russians. One of our remote viewers "saw" and pinpointed the exact location of the downed aircraft in the Congo.”
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The United States Congress pulled funding for Project Stargate prior to Luis Elizondo's recruitment into remote viewing work.
“Congress had pulled the funding for the psychic spy program sometime prior to my recruitment”
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Eugene Lessman gave Luis Elizondo an old remote viewing training manual as part of his training.
“Gene shared an old remote-viewing manual with me”
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Eugene Lessman trained Luis Elizondo in remote viewing at an old motel in Sierra Vista, Arizona.
“I remember meeting Gene at one of the old motels in Sierra Vista. He had me sit in a chair, my head bowed slightly, my eyes focused to an imaginary horizon.”
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During remote viewing sessions, practitioners were taught to report what came to them without judgement, a discipline called avoiding analytical overlay.
“The trick to remote viewing was not to judge. You reported what came to you, free of judgment. No AO. No analytical overlay.”
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Luis Elizondo's career journey began in a United States Army recruiter's office in Miami, Florida in 1995.
“My career journey began in an Army recruiter's office in Miami in 1995.”
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Once, while running counterintelligence operations in the Middle East, Luis Elizondo used remote viewing to develop a bad feeling about a specific location that five of his subordinates were scheduled to investigate the next day, and an allied team that went in his place encountered an improvised explosive device.
“Once, in the Middle East, I had a bad feeling about a specific location that five of my men were scheduled to investigate the very next day. ... An allied team went in instead and encountered an IED.”
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Luis Elizondo and four other trained remote viewers conducted a group remote viewing session in a secure facility at the Pentagon, directing their attention toward a captured suspected terrorist held in a cell thousands of miles away.
“we all gathered together in a secure facility at the Pentagon with our brown-bag lunches and attempted an act of group remote viewing. We directed our conjoined thoughts toward a specific terrorist in his cell.”
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Months after a group remote viewing session targeting a captured terrorist, the terrorist told his lawyers that the Central Intelligence Agency had sent five angels to disrupt his sleep, and the story appeared in a mainstream newspaper article about a secret CIA harassment programme.
“we learned that the terrorist had told his lawyers that the CIA had sent five angels to disrupt his sleep. ... He shared the story with his attorney, and the tale later ended up in a mainstream newspaper article about a secret CIA program being used to harass his client.”
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Luis Elizondo told Harold Puthoff about the group remote viewing session targeting the captured terrorist, and Puthoff was not surprised.
“I told Hal Puthoff what we had done. He was not surprised.”
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Pat Price, working from a couch on the west coast of the United States, remote viewed a secret National Security Agency location in West Virginia and correctly described identifying labels on file folders locked in a subterranean cabinet there.
“From a couch on the west coast, Price penetrated a secret NSA location in West Virginia and correctly described identifying labels on manila file folders locked in a subterranean cabinet.”
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Ingo Swann claimed to have remote viewed Jupiter and described its thin rings before they were confirmed by unmanned space probes years later.
“In one session, Swann claimed to have remote viewed Jupiter and described its very thin rings, which would only be spotted and confirmed by unmanned probes years later.”
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Former government psychic Joe McMoneagle was told by a senator that he was doing the work of the devil and would burn in the fires of hell, and separately was told by another lawmaker that he was doing God's work.
“A senator snarled at him, "You, sir, are doing the work of the devil and you will burn in the fires of hell!" As McMoneagle stepped into the hall, he was approached by another lawmaker who embraced him warmly and whispered in his ear: "You are doing God's work, son!"”
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Luis Elizondo taught John Robert how to remote view.
“I taught John how to remote view and he's extremely good at it.”
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Luis Elizondo was twenty-three years old when he began his career journey in 1995.
“I was twenty-three years old.”
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Luis Elizondo had a girlfriend, Jennifer, who worked as a cocktail waitress at the same sports bar as him.
“At that time, I also had a steady and wonderfully smart girlfriend, Jennifer, for the first time in my life. By night, Jennifer worked as a cocktail waitress at the same sports bar as me.”
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Jennifer taught and interpreted for hearing-impaired children in the Miami-Dade public school system, being an expert in American Sign Language.
“An expert in American Sign Language, by day she taught and interpreted for hearing-impaired kids in the Miami-Dade public school system.”
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Luis D. Elizondo III fought with Fidel Castro against the Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista in his youth.
“In his youth, my father, Luis D. Elizondo III, had fought with Fidel Castro against the Cuban dictator Fulgencio Batista.”
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Luis Elizondo worked as a bouncer at sports bars and nightclubs while paying for a college degree at the University of Miami.
“I worked as a bouncer at sports bars and nightclubs as I paid for a college degree from the University of Miami.”
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Luis D. Elizondo III attended the Havana Military Academy, which Fidel Castro's son Fidelito had also attended.
“He attended the Havana Military Academy, which Castro's son, Fidelito, had also attended.”
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After Fidel Castro aligned with the Russians and declared himself president for life, Luis D. Elizondo III joined the resistance and ultimately Brigade 2506, and participated in the US-led Bay of Pigs Invasion.
“Once Castro aligned with the Russians and declared himself president for life, my father joined the resistance and ultimately Brigade 2506 and participated in the US-led invasion of the Bay of Pigs.”
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Luis D. Elizondo III spent two years in Fidel Castro's prisons as a consequence of his role in the Bay of Pigs Invasion.
“The price for his decision was two years in Castro's prisons, where he underwent oral surgery without anesthesia and ate the occasional boiled horse hoof to survive.”
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Luis Elizondo attended Hebrew school when he was young, growing up in South Florida.
“Growing up in South Florida, I was an average kid. When I was young, I attended Hebrew school.”
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Luis Elizondo's father taught him Morse code and how to use shortwave and CB radios as a child.
“Dad taught me Morse code and how to use shortwave and CB radios.”
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Luis Elizondo's father gave him The Anarchist's Cookbook and How to Survive in Vietnam to read as a child.
“While other kids my age read the Boy Scout Handbook, I paged through books Dad had pressed into my hands: The Anarchist's Cookbook and How to Survive in Vietnam.”
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At age seven, Luis Elizondo assembled a fully assembled AR-15 assault rifle by himself under his father's guidance.
“At long last the receiver cover fit in, and I beheld a fully assembled AR-15 assault rifle.”
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Luis Elizondo trained as a child to assemble weapons including his father's .32-caliber Beretta pistol, an AK-47, and an Ingram MAC-11 submachine gun.
“At that table, on many days of my childhood, I trained to assemble his other weapons. His .32-caliber Beretta pistol, a beautiful Italian-made handgun. Then his AK-47. Followed by his Ingram MAC-11 submachine gun Uzi and KG-99.”
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Luis Elizondo's father taught him to drive a stick shift in a 1972 Toyota FJ40 jeep.
“One day, he tucked me behind the wheel of a motor vehicle for the first time, a 1972 Toyota FJ40 jeep, and taught me to drive a stick shift.”
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Luis Elizondo began working at the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“The new job at AAWSAP/AATIP was like one of those Russian dolls”
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Robert Bigelow was the contractor running the investigation at Skinwalker Ranch, Utah.
“Bob Bigelow was the contractor running point on the investigation”
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Robert Bigelow bought the Skinwalker Ranch land in the mid-1990s so his scientists could study unusual occurrences long associated with the property.
“had bought the land in the mid-1990s so that his scientists could study some of the unusual occurrences long associated with the property”
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Eric Davis briefed Department of Defense (DoD) agencies and staff members from both the Senate Armed Services Committee and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on the government's possession of off-world vehicles.
“he went on to brief DoD agencies and staff members from both the Senate Armed Services Committee and the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence on this very topic as well”
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Eric Davis attended several senior-level meetings with various branches of the US military at which he detailed the Legacy Program's long-running efforts involving UAP.
“Eric attended several senior-level meetings, to which I was invited, with various branches of the US military. During these meetings, Eric detailed the Legacy Program’s long-running efforts involving UAP.”
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The Skinwalker Ranch research contract started in 2008, after which teams of researchers went to the ranch to investigate and collect data on anomalous activity, including UAP sightings.
“since the contract started in 2008, teams of researchers had been going out to the ranch to investigate and collect data on anomalous activity, including UAP sightings”
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The 1947 Roswell UAP crash occurred in the vicinity of a government test facility in New Mexico and broke into two crash sites.
“A UAP fell that day in the vicinity of a government test facility in New Mexico and broke into two crash sites.”
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Government investigators initially assumed that the craft that crashed at Roswell in 1947 was from another nation, possibly on a reconnaissance mission, but within hours the United States Army determined the craft was not made by humans.
“At first, government investigators assumed that the Roswell craft were from another nation, possibly some sort of reconnaissance mission gone awry. But within hours, the US Army realized the truth, that these craft were not made by humans.”
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It was hypothesised that the UAP that crashed at Roswell in 1947 had been conducting reconnaissance on the US atomic program when an electromagnetic pulse from a nearby test range interfered with the craft's technology and caused it to crash.
“It was hypothesized that the UAP that crashed at Roswell had been conducting some sort of reconnaissance on our budding atomic program when the unexpected happened. An electromagnetic pulse generated from one of the nearby test ranges had inadvertently intervened with the craft’s technology and caused it to crash.”
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Following the 1947 Roswell UAP crash, the government disseminated a cover story that what was recovered was a weather balloon and displayed pieces of Mylar for journalists to photograph as evidence.
“some days later the government disseminated a cover story about recovering nothing more harmless than a weather balloon. To convince the public, they trotted out pieces of Mylar for journalists to photograph.”
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The government later claimed the craft recovered at Roswell in 1947 was part of "Project Mogul", an early US Army Air Corps attempt to detect Soviet atomic testing using microphones affixed to high-altitude balloons.
“the government claimed that the downed craft was part of “Project Mogul,” an early attempt by the US Army Air Corps to detect Soviet atomic testing by affixing microphones to high-altitude balloons”
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The government has revised the Roswell cover story at least twice more in the seventy years since 1947.
“The government has revised the Roswell cover story at least twice more in the ensuing seventy-odd years, replacing the first lie with more clever lies.”
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Luis Elizondo considers the 1947 Roswell UAP crash to have set the universal UAP playbook the US government has followed for reacting to UAP incidents ever since, consisting of steps including admitting nothing and denying everything, making counteraccusations, retrieving crashed craft pieces, moving retrieved materials to undisclosed locations, reverse-engineering the technology in secret, locking down scientists and engineers near the wreckage, intimidating and discrediting witnesses, and stigmatising the topic.
“Roswell codified how this nation and all others would react to future UAP incidents going forward. The US government scripted the universal UAP playbook in the hours and days following that mysterious incident in New Mexico: 1. Admit nothing and deny everything. 2. Make counteraccusations. 3. Retrieve the pieces of the crashed craft. 4. Whisk the retrieved materials away to undisclosed locations. 5. Work in secret to reverse-engineer this vastly superior technology. Lock down all scientists and engineers who come near the recovered wreckage. 6. Intimidate witnesses into saying nothing. Discredit those who don’t play along. Make them look crazy. Paint abductees as country bumpkins or glory-seeking frauds. Stigmatize outside researchers who attempt to intelligently glean truth. Stigmatize the topic.”
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The US government's UAP playbook includes threatening anyone who speaks about UAP with the US Espionage Act and the promise to execute anyone who defies their secrecy oath, invoking what happened to Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for selling atomic secrets to the Soviet Union.
“Threaten anyone who utters a single word about this topic with the US Espionage Act and the promise to execute anyone who defies their secrecy oath, by reminding them of what happened to Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for selling atomic secrets to the Soviet Union.”
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Julius Rosenberg and Ethel Rosenberg were executed for selling atomic secrets to the Soviet Union.
“what happened to Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for selling atomic secrets to the Soviet Union”
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Five years before the 1947 Roswell UAP crash, the United States Department of War hid the Manhattan Project, the successful US mission to build the world's first atomic bomb, using multiple secret facilities in multiple US locations staffed by thousands of American workers.
“Five years before Roswell, the US Department of War hid the Manhattan Project—the successful US mission to build the world’s first atomic bomb—utilizing multiple secret facilities in multiple US locations staffed by thousands of patriotic American men and women”
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There were enemy spies inside the Manhattan Project.
“we did learn that there were enemy spies in the Manhattan Project”
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Luis Elizondo considers most scientists to not even know that UAP are real, and attributes this to a successful cover-up and disinformation campaign.
“The cover-up and disinformation campaign has been so successful that most scientists do not even know UAP are real.”
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Jay Stratton coined the term "the hitchhiker effect" to describe anomalous activity at Skinwalker Ranch that followed people home and harassed their loved ones after they left the property.
“I later learned that Jay had coined the term that now describes this—“the hitchhiker effect.””
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Luis Elizondo believes China and Russia do not have the same stigma around UAP as the United States and can employ their scientists to work on the topic.
“China and Russia do not have the same stigma and can employ their scientists to work on this topic for them.”
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Under the US Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), anyone can request documents from the federal government, a process that can take months to years to yield results.
“Under the US Freedom of Information Act, anyone can request documents from the federal government, which might take months to years to generate them.”
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The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) allows anyone, regardless of whether they are a US citizen, to submit a request seeking insight into US government activities.
“FOIA allows anyone, regardless of whether or not they are a US citizen, to put in a request and ostensibly gain insight into our government's efforts.”
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The Central Intelligence Agency and the Federal Bureau of Investigation have sometimes posted unclassified Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) documents on their websites for the public to search for and download.
“The CIA and FBI sometimes slapped them up on their websites, for the whole world to search for and download.”
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Jim Lacatski and his team pursued the investigation of anomalous phenomena at Skinwalker Ranch because the science warranted further investigation and they could not rule out a link between the anomalous events and UAP.
“Jim and his team had gone down this path for the simplest reason imaginable: the science warranted further investigation of these strange phenomena, and they could not yet rule out the possibility that these anomalous events and UAP were inextricably linked”
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Luis Elizondo spent time reading historical government records on UAP that he had access to through his security credentials.
“I spent my time reading historical government records on UAP, which I had access to thanks to my credentials”
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Jay Stratton and Jim Lacatski briefed Luis Elizondo on the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF).
“Jay and Jim began briefing me on the program in a SCIF”
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Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) activity around uranium mines and large bodies of water continues to the present day.
“UAP activity around uranium mines and large bodies of water continues to this day.”
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At Jim Lacatski's suggestion, Luis Elizondo used his government computer to search terms including "unknown technology", "unusual performance", "anomaly", "unidentified", "UFO", and "UAP".
“At Jim’s suggestion, I used my government computer to search terms including *unknown technology*, *unusual performance*, *anomaly*, *unidentified*, *UFO*, *UAP*.”
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Luis Elizondo found that the search terms "lights" plus "sky" yielded good results when searching government records for UAP incidents.
“The words *lights* plus *sky* yielded good results.”
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Luis Elizondo found that the search terms "unidentified" plus "radar" were good for finding incidents not originally flagged as UAP incidents by their writers.
“The terms *unidentified* plus *radar* were also good for digging up incidents that were not flagged by their original writers as UAP incidents.”
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Pentagon staff referred to senior or emeritus scientific consultants as "graybeards".
“In the Pentagon, we referred to senior or emeritus staffers as “graybeards.””
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As of the most recent nuclear tests, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) have not interfered with North Korean, Indian, or Pakistani nuclear weapons testing.
“Most recently, UAP have not interfered with North Korean, Indian, or Pakistani nuclear testing.”
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Around 2009, colleagues of Lue Elizondo told him they had no explanation for the connection between Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and nuclear technology.
“"What's the connection between UAP and nuclear technology?" I asked my other colleagues. They shrugged. It was one of the eternal UAP mysteries... We have no clue, I was told back in 2009.”
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Lue Elizondo considers Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and water to be closely associated, and notes that in some cases, such as the 1952 Belgian Congo uranium mine sighting, a UAP encounter is associated with both nuclear material and water.
“one of the early observations in our group was that UAP and water go together like waffles and syrup. Sometimes, as in the case of the Congo mine or, as we'll discuss later, nuclear vessels at sea, the UAP sighting is associated with both nukes and water.”
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Modern military witnesses to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are equipped with sophisticated imaging tools, including radar, infrared imaging, and high-resolution gun cameras, unlike witnesses in the 1950s and 1960s.
“modern military witnesses to UAP are equipped with some of the most sophisticated imaging tools known to humans. They can capture evidence of these UAP with radar, infrared imaging, and high-resolution gun cameras.”
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The United States now has hyperspectral imaging capabilities on the ground, at sea, in the air, and in space that can be used to observe Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“unlike the 1950s, we now have hyperspectral imaging capabilities on the ground, at sea, in the air, and even in space.”
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William "Will" Livingston presided over a little-known "weird desk" at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in charge of investigating unusual medical issues, implants, and abductions related to UAP encounters.
“For years he presided over the little-known “weird desk” at the CIA, in charge of investigating unusual medical issues, implants, and abductions, all related to UAP encounters and anything strange.”
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A contact showed Lue Elizondo a small Russian booklet of maps pinpointing the location of two UAP crashes along the Ural Mountains in Russia.
“A contact showed me a small Russian booklet of maps that pinpointed the location of two crashes along the Ural Mountains.”
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367
Occasional Intelligence Information Reports (IIRs) detailed what the former Soviet Union was doing to pursue the topic of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), often mentioning incidents across Europe, Turkey, Ukraine, and China.
“There was also the occasional Intelligence Information Report (IIR) that would detail what the former Soviet Union was doing to pursue the topic of UAP. Such reports often mentioned incidents all over Europe, Turkey, Ukraine, and China.”
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Old reports existed from United States Marine Corps personnel stationed at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, describing strange lights descending along the no-man's-land between the US and Cuban military zones.
“We even had old reports from Marines stationed at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, who described strange lights descending along the “no man’s land” between the US and Cuban military zones.”
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369
Italy has logged 15,000 UAP events since 1901.
“One of our allies, Italy, has logged 15,000 UAP events since 1901.”
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370
The Vatican has formed alliances with UAP transparency advocates in Italy and the United States and confidentially shares centuries-old historic accounts that may be UAP-related.
“Institutions like the Vatican have formed alliances with UAP transparency advocates in Italy and the US and confidentially share historic accounts that are centuries old that may be UAP-related.”
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371
The Vatican has collected intelligence over the millennia culled from eyewitness reports and anecdotes shared in the confessional.
“Most people would be shocked by the amount of intelligence the Vatican has collected over the millennia, culled from eyewitness reports and perhaps even anecdotes shared in the confessional.”
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372
Lue Elizondo was told that the Catholic Church routinely polled priests to speak in a general way about what troubled their parishioners.
“I’ve been told that the church routinely polled priests to speak in a general way about what troubled their parishioners.”
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373
William "Will" Livingston is a medical doctor and surgeon based in Detroit, Michigan.
“A medical doctor and surgeon based out of Detroit, Will was part of every program that was too sensitive to be publicly acknowledged”
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Catholicism and Islam are beginning to prepare the public for the idea that humankind is not alone.
“But as I would find out later, Catholicism and now even Islam are beginning to prepare the public for the long-understood idea that humankind is not alone.”
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375
Before Lue Elizondo joined the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), Harold Puthoff conceived and commissioned studies including invisibility cloaking, traversable wormholes and stargates, antigravity, brain/machine interfaces, and warp drives.
“Even before I’d come aboard, Hal conceived and commissioned fascinating studies for AAWSAP/AATIP, including invisibility cloaking, traversable wormholes and stargates, antigravity, brain/machine interfaces, and warp drives.”
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William "Will" Livingston was part of every UAP program too sensitive to be publicly acknowledged.
“Will was part of every program that was too sensitive to be publicly acknowledged—hence his involvement”
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377
The studies commissioned by Harold Puthoff for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) became known as the thirty-eight Defense Intelligence Research Documents (DIRDs).
“These studies would later be known as the thirty-eight Defense Intelligence Research Documents (DIRDs).”
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378
Each Defense Intelligence Research Document (DIRD) was commissioned from a top scientist expert on technology concepts that might apply to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) problem.
“Each commissioned study was from a top scientist who was an expert on technology concepts that might apply to the UAP problem.”
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379
Harold Puthoff ensured the Defense Intelligence Research Documents (DIRDs) could be applied to any conceivable weapon system, not just Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), as a layer of protection to hide the true mission of the effort.
“Hal cleverly made sure these studies could be applied to any conceivable weapon system, not just UAP. This was another layer of protection, to hide the true mission of the overall effort.”
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Lue Elizondo later used the same tactic of disguising research applicability in order to keep the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) viable.
“Later, I would do the same thing in order to keep AATIP viable.”
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381
Before joining the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) effort, Harold Puthoff previously managed the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)'s Stargate program.
“The last time Hal had made this much progress on a program was during his time managing the CIA’s Stargate program.”
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The Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)'s Stargate psychic program was eventually defunded and shut down despite being valuable and accurate.
“And yet, as valuable and accurate as its efforts were, the psychic program was eventually defunded and shut down.”
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Lue Elizondo believes the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)'s Stargate program was killed because it was too effective, rather than for budget reasons as some claimed.
“Some say the budget was the issue, but most knew the truth. They killed the program because it was too effective.”
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Lue Elizondo would not assume that elements of the government have stopped using remote viewing as a tool.
“That said, I wouldn’t assume that means elements of the government have not continued using remote viewing as a tool.”
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385
Religious fundamentalists within the chain of command and Capitol Hill began asking pointed questions about the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)'s Stargate program and its efficacy, including whether its methods were paranormal or demonic.
“Religious fundamentalists within the chain of command and Capitol Hill began asking pointed questions about the program and its efficacy: more specifically, are these unusual methods paranormal or even demonic?”
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386
A Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) blocks sound, radio, and electromagnetic waves.
“They block sound and radio and electromagnetic waves.”
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Albert Stubblebine headed the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)'s Stargate psychic program.
“General Albert Stubblebine, who headed up the psychic program—and was nicknamed “General Spoon Bender”—once tangled with a lawmaker”
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Albert Stubblebine was nicknamed "General Spoon Bender".
“was nicknamed “General Spoon Bender””
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389
James Lacatski and his team ran the United States' official program on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), while the Legacy Program was working at cross-purposes to that effort.
“Theoretically, Jim Lacatski and his team ran the US’s official program on UAP, but at the same time the Legacy Program was working at cross-purposes to ours.”
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390
Within the Pentagon, some deeply hidden black programs were referred to as "ultrablack", or "purple novas", meaning projects so secret that not even the secretary of defense or the president would know of them unless they stumbled across them by accident.
“In the parlance of the Pentagon, some deeply hidden black programs were so black that… well, they weren’t even black, they were ultrablack. We spoke of “purple novas”—projects and programs so secret that not even the secretary of defense or the president would ever know of them, unless they stumbled across them by accident.”
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Lue Elizondo considers the Legacy Program to be nothing more black than that programme, describing it as the most black.
“Nothing is more black than the Legacy Program.”
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392
Discoveries from ultrablack programmes were never shared with other agencies, field activities, and branches, with information kept siloed under separate control by different individuals with their own areas of authority.
“Whatever the color of these programs, their discoveries would never be shared with other agencies, field activities, and branches. The information, we liked to say, was stuffed up different stovepipes, controlled by unseen barons, each with their own fiefdoms.”
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Initially the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) crew enjoyed a good degree of support from Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) leadership.
“Initially, the AAWSAP/AATIP crew enjoyed a good degree of support from DIA leadership.”
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Memorandums between Lieutenant General Michael D. Maples and Deputy Director Robert Cardillo initially referred to the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) effort in positive terms.
“Memorandums to and from Lieutenant General Michael Maples and Deputy Director Robert Cardillo initially referred to the effort in positive terms.”
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Lue Elizondo had the privilege of personally reading some of the feedback on Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) executive summary reports.
“I had the privilege to read some of the feedback from these reports myself.”
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As James Lacatski and his contractors circulated Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) executive summaries, the email responses received via secure internal servers were unfailingly positive.
“As Jim Lacatski and his contractors circulated executive summaries, the email responses they received via secure internal servers were unfailingly positive.”
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397
It was not unusual to find a hand-scribbled note at the top of a classified Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) memo reading "Excited to see the results."
“It was not unusual to find a hand-scribbled note, at the top of a classified memo, that read, “Excited to see the results.””
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398
An increasing number of Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) detractors came to work at the senior level within the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), and new executive leadership at DIA became settled into their roles, increasing scrutiny of AAWSAP.
“An increasing number of AAWSAP detractors now worked at the senior level within DIA. More and more scrutiny was being placed on AAWSAP every day and new executive leadership at DIA was getting settled into their roles.”
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399
Within weeks of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) leadership transition, James Lacatski began spending most of his time defending his efforts instead of conducting research, as senior DIA leadership actively tried to kill the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP).
“Within a matter of weeks of the transition, Lacatski began spending most of his time defending his efforts instead of conducting research. The powers that be in the ivory tower now actively tried to kill the program.”
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If any glimmer of the truth about James Lacatski's work reached a broader report destined for other powerful readers, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) bureaucrats killed it, filed it away, or ignored it.
“If the slightest glimmer of the truth of Jim’s work got released in a broader report destined for the eyes of others in power, it got kicked upstairs, where DIA’s bureaucrats killed it, filed it away, or ignored it.”
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401
The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)'s investigation at Skinwalker Ranch in Utah aroused curiosity and uncomfortable questions.
“AAWSAP’s investigation at the Utah ranch alone aroused curiosity and uncomfortable questions.”
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Lue Elizondo believed the philosophical and theological challenges posed by the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) were more of a roadblock than the pragmatic or bureaucratic ones, especially as religiously inclined leaders had taken a keen interest in AAWSAP.
“My impression was that the philosophical and theological challenges were more of a roadblock than the pragmatic or bureaucratic ones, especially now that leaders of a religious bent had taken a keen interest in AAWSAP.”
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In 2010, Devon Woods, who previously served as a senior leader at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), became a senior director at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).
“In 2010, a man I’ll call Devon Woods, who previously served as a senior leader at ODNI, became a senior director at DIA.”
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Lue Elizondo knew Devon Woods from his days at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and looked up to him, perceiving him as noble and honest, albeit extremely religious.
“I knew him from my days at ODNI, and I looked up to him. I perceived him as noble and honest, albeit extremely religious.”
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405
James Clapper served as Lue Elizondo's boss at the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)).
“This all began when General James Clapper, my old boss at the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I))”
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406
President Barack Obama asked James Clapper to become the new Director of National Intelligence (DNI).
“was asked by President Barack Obama to become the new DNI.”
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407
James Clapper and Devon Woods did not always see eye to eye, but when Clapper became the Director of National Intelligence (DNI), he offered Woods the job at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) regardless.
“Clapper and Woods didn’t always see eye to eye, but when Clapper made the move to become the DNI, he offered Woods the job at DIA regardless.”
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408
Political science scholars have observed that world governments are ill-equipped to manage knowledge that threatens the notion of human supremacy, divine authority, and dominion over the planet.
“As some very bright political science scholars have recently observed, world governments are spectacularly ill-equipped to manage knowledge that threatens the notion of human supremacy, divine authority, and dominion over this planet.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:49434-49687 opinion second hand
409
The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) went from being favoured to being treated with hostility almost overnight.
“AAWSAP/AATIP went from being the ballroom darling to the Wicked Witch of the West, almost overnight.”
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410
Lue Elizondo believed that, as the new member of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) team, the powers that be had targeted James Lacatski and AAWSAP/AATIP for elimination.
“As the new kid, I was certainly not going to tell Jim how to do his job, but I worried the powers that be had bull’s-eyes fixed on Jim and AAWSAP/AATIP.”
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411
Eric Davis is an astrophysicist with high-level national security clearances who worked with Harold Puthoff as a contractor for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“It wasn’t until much later that I met Eric Davis, an astrophysicist with high-level national security clearances who also worked with Hal as a contractor for the program.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:6336-6498 administrative first hand
412
An anonymous source told Luis Elizondo that Eric Davis provided the Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB).
“I was told that he even provided the Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB)”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:6555-6621 hearsay second hand
413
Eric Davis has long consulted with a number of aerospace and defense contractors, including EarthTech, the company founded by Harold Puthoff.
“Eric has long consulted with a number of aerospace and defense contractors, including the one founded by Hal, EarthTech.”
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414
Eric Davis was known to wear Hawaiian shirts in settings where others sported dress suits.
“the mustached, spectacled Davis was known to wear Hawaiian shirts in settings where others sported dress suits”
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415
Luis Elizondo considers Eric Davis to have an eidetic memory and to remember details beyond normal human capabilities.
“He has an eidetic—that is, “photographic”—memory, and remembers details beyond normal human capabilities.”
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416
In the late 1990s, Eric Davis met and talked with Vice Admiral Thomas R. Wilson, who was Director of Intelligence (J2) for the Joint Staff.
“in the late 1990s, Eric met and chatted up Vice Admiral Thomas R. Wilson, who was Director of Intelligence (J2) for the Joint Staff”
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417
Edgar Mitchell was part of the Apollo 14 mission.
“the famous American astronaut who was part of the Apollo 14 mission”
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418
Edgar Mitchell was the sixth person to walk on the moon.
“The sixth person to walk on the moon, Mitchell was a naval aviator”
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419
Edgar Mitchell was a naval aviator.
“Mitchell was a naval aviator”
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Edgar Mitchell was an engineer trained at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).
“an engineer trained at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)”
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421
Edgar Mitchell was a Presidential Medal of Freedom honoree.
“a Presidential Medal of Freedom honoree”
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Edgar Mitchell grew up on a ranch in the Roswell, New Mexico area, which contributed to his lifelong championing of the UAP topic.
“He was also a longtime champion of the UAP topic, due to his childhood growing up on a ranch in the Roswell, New Mexico, area and what he had since learned as an astronaut.”
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423
Edgar Mitchell's family was among the Roswell families threatened by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) after the 1947 Roswell UAP crash.
“He once confided to Hal and Eric that his family was among the Roswell families who were threatened by the FBI after the famous Roswell crashes.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:8451-8587 testimony third hand
424
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agents visited ranchers in the Roswell, New Mexico region door-to-door to deliver the message that anyone who spoke about the 1947 Roswell UAP crash would be killed.
“FBI agents visited ranchers in the region, going door-to-door to deliver the threatening message: if you speak about the crashes, you will be killed.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:8596-8738 testimony third hand
425
Thomas R. Wilson began asking questions after noticing certain black program line items in budgets that crossed his desk.
“Vice Admiral Wilson, curious about certain black program line items in the budgets that crossed his desk, began asking questions.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:8956-9075 testimony second hand
426
A small part of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) effort investigated unexplainable phenomena at a 194-hectare property in Utah called Skinwalker Ranch.
“a small part of the effort also investigated unexplainable phenomena at a 480-acre property in Utah called Skinwalker Ranch”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:904-1022 administrative first hand
427
Thomas R. Wilson met with representatives of an aerospace corporation and their attorney to ask what they were doing with a specific classified budget line item.
“He got a meeting with representatives of a certain aerospace corporation—and their attorney. Wilson put his cards on the table: Just what were they doing with this specific line item?”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:9086-9264 testimony second hand
428
Thomas R. Wilson discovered that a contractor was part of an extremely secret program focused on retrieving and reverse-engineering crashed advanced vehicles of unknown origin not made by humans.
“He discovered that the contractor was part of an extremely secret program focused on retrieving and reverse-engineering crashed advanced vehicles of unknown origin and not made by humans.”
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429
The larger program involving retrieval and reverse-engineering of crashed nonhuman craft is referred to as the Legacy Program, and involves various elements of the US government and US defense contractors.
“I learned the larger program is referred to as the Legacy Program and involves various elements of the US government and US defense contractors.”
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430
An aerospace contractor's attorney told Thomas R. Wilson that if he continued to ask questions about the classified retrieval program, it could get him fired and cause him to lose his pension.
“the contractor’s attorney brashly informed the admiral that if he continued to ask questions, it could get him fired and cause him to lose his pension”
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431
Thomas R. Wilson confided the details of his encounter with the aerospace contractor to Eric Davis and never spoke of it again, even after the Wilson/Davis memo leaked.
“He confided the details of this encounter to Davis and never spoke of it again, even after the memo leaked.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:9913-10013 testimony second hand
432
Luis Elizondo attended both a Jewish temple and school as well as a Catholic church while growing up.
“By attending both a Jewish temple and school and, at the same time, a Catholic church, I grew up immersed in both faiths, celebrating both Hanukkah and Christmas, until I grew older.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch13:5853-6029 testimony first hand
433
James Lacatski conceived a chart placing the word God at the top, Angels in the middle, and Humans at the bottom.
“One day I arrived at our group office to find Jim and a couple of the others kicking around ideas for a chart Jim had conceived. At the top he'd typed the word God. At the bottom was Humans. In the middle was Angels.”
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434
James Lacatski theorised that if the distance between humans and angels is large, an entire ecosystem of divine and semidivine life forms could exist between purely spiritual angels and flesh-and-soul humans.
“Jim theorized that if the distance between humans and angels is large, was it not probable that other beings existed between the purely spiritual angels and the flesh-and-soul creatures known as humans? Was it possible an entire ecosystem of divine and semidivine life forms existed in an invisible ecosystem?”
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435
Luis Elizondo learned firsthand about disturbing and surprising matters related to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), including implants and biological effects.
“especially since I had been learning firsthand about disturbing and surprising matters related to UAP, from implants to biological effects, and Jay's other work that I would soon learn about”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch13:8770-8955 testimony first hand
436
Reported orbs vary in colour, including white, yellow, blue, red, and green.
“There are different colors and sizes; some of the colors reported were white, yellow, blue, red, and green.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:1231-1332 observation
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Reports reviewed by Lue Elizondo suggested blue orbs in particular had a negative biological consequence, such that proximity to one could cause injury.
“Reports I have seen suggested the blue orbs in particular had a very negative biological consequence, meaning if you got close to one of these, you could expect to be injured.”
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438
Lue Elizondo experienced firsthand orbs appearing at his home after he began working with the AAWSAP/AATIP UAP programme.
“I was shocked to find that a lot of my colleagues and I began experiencing firsthand some of these orbs at our homes.”
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Jennifer, Lue Elizondo's wife, was initially a complete sceptic about the orb phenomenon until she personally saw an orb in their house.
“In fact, my wife was a complete skeptic on all this—that is, until she saw an orb in our house for herself.”
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Lue Elizondo and Jennifer observed a green, glowing ball of light about the size of a basketball float slowly through their house from the kitchen to their bedroom door, just below ceiling height, before disappearing into a wall.
“We had a long main hallway in the house, and one evening a green, glowing ball, probably about the size of a basketball, with soft edges that weren’t defined, floated down slowly from the kitchen to our bedroom door just below ceiling height, then disappeared into a wall.”
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The green glowing orb Lue Elizondo and Jennifer observed in their home was visible for approximately ten seconds.
“She indeed saw it the entire ten seconds it was in our house.”
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442
Lue Elizondo's children reported seeing an orb appear in the air, hover near them for a few seconds, and then float away.
“Another time, the kids reported seeing an orb appear in the air, hover near them for a few seconds, and then float away.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:2558-2673 testimony second hand
443
During World War II, orbs known as "foo fighters" were regularly reported in and around Allied and Axis aircraft.
“In World War II, orbs were reported regularly in and around Allied and Axis aircraft, so much so that they were nicknamed “foo fighters.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:279-406 observation
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Lue Elizondo's children described the orb they saw as three-dimensional but translucent, suffused with an eerie green light, and behaving as if guided by some intelligence, parking itself in the air before drifting off and disappearing.
“The object had been three-dimensional but still translucent and suffused with an eerie green light. The object behaved as if guided by some intelligence. It parked itself in the air, then drifted off down the hall before disappearing entirely.”
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445
After Kenneth Arnold's 1947 UAP sighting, which occurred a couple of weeks before the Roswell crashes, he and his family allegedly had balls of light appear in their home.
“After the pilot Kenneth Arnold’s famous 1947 UAP sighting, which was a couple of weeks before the Roswell crashes, he and his family allegedly had balls of light in their home.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:3473-3644 hearsay
446
Citizens terrorised during the 1977-1978 Colares Incidents in Colares, Brazil, often claimed to have been pursued and attacked by lights or orbs.
“You’ll recall that the citizens terrorized in Colares, Brazil, in the 1970s often claimed to have been pursued and attacked by lights or orbs.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:3651-3814 hearsay
447
Will Livingston, the team's medical consultant, studied a case of a blue orb that passed through a woman's body and caused her to become ill.
“Will Livingston, the team’s medical consultant, had also studied a case of blue orbs that passed through a woman’s body, causing her to become ill.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:3820-3963 hearsay second hand
448
At Skinwalker Ranch, two dogs owned by a rancher chased a blue orb into a field and vanished, leaving behind two grease spots on the sagebrush containing remnants of the dogs' body fluid, blood, and tissue.
“At Skinwalker Ranch, two dogs owned by a rancher chased a blue orb into the field, only to vanish in a *yipe*, leaving behind nothing but two grease spots on the sagebrush that contained remnants of the two dogs’ biology—body fluid, blood, and small amounts of tissue—literally all that was left of the poor creatures.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:3968-4276 hearsay
449
Researchers at Skinwalker Ranch believed the orbs had somehow vaporised the two dogs and scorched nearby vegetation, with a beam of directed energy from a powerful laser or radioactive weapon presumed to be the cause.
“To researchers it looked as if the orbs had somehow vaporized the dogs, scorching nearby vegetation. A beam of directed energy, from a powerful laser or radioactive weapon, was the presumed cause.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:4287-4477 opinion
450
Two colleagues working with the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program were under medical care for cutaneous and visceral injuries sustained from interactions with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.
“Two colleagues in particular were under medical care for both cutaneous and visceral injuries that were sustained from interactions with UAP while working with AAWSAP/AATIP”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:4485-4652 testimony first hand
451
Numerous reports associated negative biological effects, especially from orbs, with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena encounters, with the injuries appearing to stem from directed-energy exposure similar to radiation.
“we had numerous reports of negative biological effects associated with UAP encounters, especially orbs. The injuries sustained seemed to stem from some sort of directed-energy exposure, almost like radiation.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:4663-4861 testimony first hand
452
Multiple members of Lue Elizondo's team, excluding himself, experienced severe biological effects from Unidentified Aerial Phenomena encounters resulting in life-threatening medical issues.
“Unfortunately, multiple members of our team (excluding myself) experienced severe biological effects resulting in life-threatening medical issues.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:4873-5012 testimony first hand
453
The biological effects experienced by Lue Elizondo's team members from Unidentified Aerial Phenomena encounters extended to their family members, including their children.
“These biological effects also extended to their family members, including their children.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:5020-5100 testimony first hand
454
Lue Elizondo learned of military servicemen and intelligence officers who died from biological effects of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena encounters.
“I learned of military servicemen and intelligence officers who succumbed to their injuries and lost their lives due to the biological effects of UAP encounters.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:5155-5304 testimony first hand
455
Lue Elizondo learned of military and intelligence officials struggling to survive as a result of biological effects traced to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena encounters.
“And I learned of military and intelligence officials who were struggling to survive as a result of biological effects traced to their UAP encounters.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:5316-5454 testimony first hand
456
John Robert, Lue Elizondo's longtime friend, worked around the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program team without being part of it, and experienced similar biological effects symptoms.
“Another colleague and good friend, who wasn’t part of AAWSAP/AATIP but worked around us often, experienced these symptoms.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:5467-5580 testimony first hand
457
John Robert had his own Unidentified Aerial Phenomena encounter as a boy that Lue Elizondo did not learn about until much later.
“I did not know until much later that he had his own UAP encounter as a boy.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:5694-5765 testimony second hand
458
Orbs continued to appear at the Elizondo home over time, roughly once a month.
“Over time, more orbs appeared in our home. Not too frequently: a whole month might go by, and then one would arrive.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:5905-6014 testimony first hand
459
Orbs at the Elizondo home that manifested as clear or green did not lead Lue Elizondo to warn his family to avoid them, as he understood only blue orbs to be problematic.
“Since “our” orbs manifested as clear or green, I did not feel compelled to warn my family to avoid them. I didn’t want to frighten them further. As far as I knew, only blue was problematic.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:6022-6225 testimony first hand
460
Indigenous people in the United States have reported orbs for centuries, including luminous balls coming out of the river in the Ohio River Valley.
“in the Ohio River Valley, they reported orbs, luminous balls, coming out of the river”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:641-721 hearsay
461
Lue Elizondo's neighbours witnessed orbs appearing near his home, lingering briefly, and then moving toward the trees at the edges of the property.
“Other times, we’d be outside, grilling or hanging out near our koi pond with neighbors, when an orb would appear randomly, linger for a few moments, then mosey over toward the trees on the edges of our property. Our neighbors witnessed this too.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:6444-6685 observation first hand
462
During storms and other times of high atmospheric energy, orb occurrences at the Elizondo home became more pronounced.
“During times of high atmospheric energy, such as storms, the occurrences became more pronounced.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:7032-7117 observation first hand
463
Lue Elizondo considers the increased orb occurrences during storms not to be connected to lightning or nearby high-voltage power lines, as none were present in the vicinity of his home.
“There are people who would conclude this was somehow connected to lightning, but it wasn’t. Nor were there any high-voltage power lines anywhere in the vicinity.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:7129-7281 opinion first hand
464
Lue Elizondo observed that orbs are frequently reported by commercial pilots, military pilots, and eyewitnesses on the ground, particularly around military test ranges and sensitive US military facilities.
“I was shocked by the frequency of how often these orbs have been reported, whether by commercial pilots or military pilots or by eyewitnesses on the ground, particularly around military test ranges and sensitive US military facilities.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:729-953 observation first hand
465
Intelligence officers are strictly prohibited from sharing classified work details with spouses, friends, and family members, and sign a pledge to keep classified information secret until released from that pledge.
“Most people know, as does my wife, that intelligence officers are strictly prohibited from sharing the details of their work with spouses, friends, and family members. We sign a pledge that we will keep classified information secret until we are released from that pledge.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:7799-8064 administrative
466
Intelligence officers are subject to routine polygraph examinations, drug tests, and psychological evaluations.
“We are also subject to routine polygraph examinations, drug tests, and psychological evaluations.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:8072-8157 administrative
467
Lue Elizondo's colleagues were investigating strange UAP-related phenomena at work.
“I told her yes, my colleagues *were* investigating some strange things at work.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:8426-8500 testimony first hand
468
John Robert, Lue Elizondo's longtime friend, was having weird encounters at his own house.
“I told her that even John Robert, my longtime friend, was having weird encounters at his house.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch14:9104-9193 testimony second hand
469
The US Air Force-commissioned teleportation study Lue Elizondo read comprised about eighty pages of dense mathematics and argued that teleporting an object from one place in the universe to another was theoretically possible due to quantum entanglement.
“In this study, there were about eighty pages of dense mathematics, and it argued that teleporting one object from one place in the universe to another was possible in theory, due to a mind-blowing quirk in physics known as quantum entanglement, which Einstein knew about and called “spooky.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:10267-10550 administrative second hand
470
The US Air Force-commissioned teleportation study Lue Elizondo read stated that photons and electrons had been successfully teleported a short distance, with some observations concluding that the photon arrived at its destination even before departing its original position.
“The study suggested that photons and electrons had been successfully teleported a short distance. Some observations concluded that the photon arrived at its destination even before departing its original position.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:10559-10789 hearsay second hand
471
According to the US Air Force-commissioned teleportation study Lue Elizondo read, China was investing heavily in quantum entanglement research.
“Apparently the Chinese were investing heavily in quantum entanglement.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:10799-10856 hearsay second hand
472
As of the time Lue Elizondo read the teleportation study, only very small subatomic particles had been successfully teleported.
“Is teleportation possible? Turns out it is; though, up until now it’s only been very small subatomic particles.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:10870-10971 opinion first hand
473
Travelling to Earth from another planet at the speed of light would require hundreds, thousands, or millions of years, unless a loophole in the laws of physics is being exploited to travel between worlds.
“We had long assumed that traveling to earth from another planet at the speed of light would require hundreds, thousands, or even millions of years—unless, that is, these beings are exploiting a loophole in the laws of physics in order to travel between worlds.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:11575-11828 opinion first hand
474
In August 1947, a civilian pilot on the US East Coast reported an encounter to US Air Force Air Command with a cylinder-shaped object described as "blunt at both ends".
“**August 1947:** A civilian pilot on the East Coast reported an encounter to USAF Air Command with a cylinder-shaped object, “blunt at both ends.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:12376-12514 hearsay second hand
475
In December 1953, Swedish airplane pilots observed a silver or white "flying lozenge" object that "seemed more to be a robot" according to the report.
“**December 1953:** Swedish airplane pilots observed a silver or white “flying lozenge” that left them flabbergasted. It “seemed more to be a robot,” the report read.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:12524-12682 hearsay second hand
476
In April 1964, the FBI reported finding a downed craft near Socorro, New Mexico, described as "shaped like a butane tank" and about as long as a telephone pole, that had narrowly missed a witness's father's farmhouse; the witness was deemed "sober and frightened".
“**April 1964:** The FBI reported finding a downed craft that was “shaped like a butane tank” and about as long as a telephone pole. The witness—who claimed the object narrowly missed his father’s farmhouse in Socorro, New Mexico—was “deemed sober and frightened.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:12691-12940 hearsay second hand
477
The April 1964 "butane tank" report near Socorro, New Mexico is from the same week as Lonnie Zamora's sighting of a white, egg-shaped object that blasted off from the desert floor.
“The so-called butane tank report is from the same week as Lonnie Zamora’s sighting of a white, egg-shaped object that blasted off from the desert floor.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:12979-13125 hearsay second hand
478
Several pilots involved in the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter later told Jay Stratton that they had been debriefed by intelligence officers but saw no evidence of a subsequent investigation, and their story died after being kicked up the chain of command.
“Several of the pilots later told Jay that they had been debriefed by intelligence officers. They saw no evidence of a subsequent investigation. Kicked up the chain of command, their story died.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:13603-13791 hearsay third hand
479
The senior master of arms aboard the USS Princeton told Lue Elizondo that during a routine situation report (SITREP) with senior brass, the ship's captain dismissed the Tic Tac incident, saying "Well, you had your fun with this. Let's get back to work now."
“The senior master of arms on board the USS *Princeton* later told me that during a routine SITREP (“situation report”) with senior brass aboard the ship, the captain dismissed the entire incident, saying, “Well, you had your fun with this. Let’s get back to work now.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:13798-14061 hearsay second hand
480
Chad Underwood was an otherwise serious and focused pilot who never indulged in flights of fancy.
“Underwood, an otherwise serious and focused pilot, never indulged in flights of fancy.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:14197-14277 opinion first hand
481
Neither Dave Fravor nor Alex Dietrich displayed any propensity to exaggerate, and their crews perceived them as the best of the best.
“Neither Fravor nor Dietrich had displayed any propensity to exaggerate. Their crews perceived them as the best of the best.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:14284-14402 opinion first hand
482
Fighter pilots are trained to spot and distinguish an Su-22, a MiG-25, and other similar-looking fighter jets from twenty kilometres away.
“Fighter pilots are trained to spot, and know the differences between, an Su-22, a MiG-25, and other similar-looking fighter jets from twenty miles away.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:14408-14555 opinion first hand
483
A North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) investigator put a few questions to Chad Underwood following the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter, and no other internal agency investigated the encounter.
“Beyond a few questions a NORAD investigator put to Underwood, I was told no other internal agency investigated the encounter.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:14675-14790 hearsay second hand
484
Over decades, military people learned that UAP are to be explained away or ignored, and talking about the subject is considered a definitive career killer.
“Over decades, military people had learned that UAP are to be explained away or, better yet, ignored. Talking about the subject is a definitive career killer.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:15522-15672 opinion first hand
485
Historically, the moment a pilot's integrity or judgement is questioned regarding a UAP report, they are usually grounded and relegated to a desk job for the remainder of their career.
“Historically, the moment a pilot’s integrity or judgment is questioned, they are usually grounded and relegated to “flying a desk” the remainder of their career.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:15680-15834 opinion first hand
486
Those who saw or learned too much about UAP were silenced with non-disclosure agreements and threats, creating a culture of silence.
“This stigma created a culture of silence. And those who saw or learned too much were silenced further with nondisclosure agreements and threats.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:16063-16199 opinion first hand
487
There is no aircraft made by humans that can drop from approximately 24,000 metres to approximately 15 metres altitude in a fraction of a second and return to altitude, as UAP tracked before the 2004 USS Nimitz encounter were observed to do.
“There is no aircraft made by humans that can do that.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:2563-2611 opinion first hand
488
Jay Stratton investigated the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter before Lue Elizondo joined the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AAWSAP/AATIP) team.
“Jay Stratton investigated the incident before I joined the team.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:301-360 administrative first hand
489
Jay Stratton wrote a detailed Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AAWSAP/AATIP) report on the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter.
“He had written a detailed AAWSAP/AATIP report on the event, which is how I first learned about it.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:366-461 administrative first hand
490
Dave Fravor was often one of the few individuals known to run toward danger rather than away from it.
“One of a rare breed, Fravor was often one of the few individuals who were known to run toward danger, not away from it.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:4042-4158 opinion first hand
491
Alex Dietrich, call sign "New Girl", was more skilled and deadly as a pilot than her call sign suggested.
“Making up the other half of the team was another US Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet piloted by Lieutenant Junior Grade Alex Dietrich, who was more skilled and deadly than her call sign—“New Girl”—suggested.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:4687-4876 opinion first hand
492
Alex Dietrich, fresh out of training, flew circles around her peers, which was probably the reason she was handpicked for her assignment with the Black Aces squadron.
“Fresh out of training, Dietrich flew circles around her peers, probably the reason she was handpicked for her assignment with the Black Aces.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:4887-5023 opinion first hand
493
A few years after the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter, Lue Elizondo heard a story that Alex Dietrich had more confirmed kills in a period of time than the entire United States Marine Corps.
“A few years later, I heard a story that Alex had more confirmed kills in a period of time than the entire US Marine Corps. I never knew if the story was true, but I would not doubt it.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:5029-5210 hearsay second hand
494
During the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter, three separate sensor types were trained on the target: multiple radar systems (airborne and shipborne), forward-looking infrared (FLIR) images from externally mounted targeting pods, and eyewitness testimony from fighter pilots.
“We had multiple radar systems, both airborne and aboard a ship. We had FLIR (forward-looking infrared) images from the targeting pod externally mounted to our fighter jets, and we had eyewitness testimony from trained fighter pilots, who all reported the same thing, at the same time, at the same place.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:649-946 observation first hand
495
Whatever technology the Tic Tac used during the 2004 USS Nimitz encounter was faster and more capable than anything in the US inventory by several orders of magnitude.
“Whatever this technology was, it was faster and more capable than anything we had in our inventory by an order of several magnitudes.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:6970-7092 opinion first hand
496
UAP have been known to jam radar.
“UAP have been known to jam radar.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:8290-8317 opinion first hand
497
No known aircraft could go as fast as the Tic Tac performed during the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter.
“We simply don’t know of any aircraft that can go that fast. Nowhere near it.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:9105-9178 opinion first hand
498
The 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter, nicknamed the "Tic Tac" incident, became one of the most important UAP encounters in recent history and is considered a "gold standard" due to how the investigation was handled and the fidelity of information collected.
“The “Tic Tac” UAP encounter would become one of the most important in recent history and considered a “gold standard,” due to the way the investigation was handled and the fidelity of information collected.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:94-290 opinion first hand
499
During his early days at the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AAWSAP/AATIP), Lue Elizondo brought an unclassified US Air Force-commissioned document on teleportation to read while at his daughter's lacrosse practice on Maryland's Eastern Shore.
“One afternoon during my early days at AAWSAP/AATIP I took my oldest daughter to lacrosse practice somewhere on Maryland’s Eastern Shore, and sat on the bleachers with some of the other parents. To pass the time, I had brought along an unclassified document on the topic of teleportation, commissioned by the US Air Force.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:9659-9974 administrative first hand
500
The Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) had some of the best scientists working on secret technologies that would not be seen publicly for another fifty years, including experiments in quantum teleportation, light-bending technology, and novel forms of propulsion.
“The Air Force Research Laboratory (AFRL) had some of the best scientists working on secret technologies that we wouldn’t see for another fifty years. And I was okay with that. This included experiments in quantum teleportation, light-bending technology, and novel forms of propulsion.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:9981-10254 opinion first hand
501
In a hallway conversation at the Pentagon, Devon Woods told Luis Elizondo that he believed the US government already knew what UAP are.
“"Lue, you know we already know what these things are, right?"”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:10383-10436 opinion first hand
502
Devon Woods warned Luis Elizondo that he was "opening a can of worms" by continuing to investigate Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“"Lue, you're opening a can of worms playing with this stuff," Woods said. It was clear to me he was talking about UAP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:11130-11243 testimony first hand
503
Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) was the primary contractor firm for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP).
“The program had taken on a slew of subcontractors to help with the research, but the primary firm was Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS), owned by former hotel magnate Robert Bigelow, who, as I mentioned, at the time owned Skinwalker Ranch.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:12266-12514 administrative first hand
504
Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) was owned by Robert Bigelow.
“...the primary firm was Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS), owned by former hotel magnate Robert Bigelow...”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:12347-12455 administrative first hand
505
Robert Bigelow owned Skinwalker Ranch at the time of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP).
“...who, as I mentioned, at the time owned Skinwalker Ranch.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:12464-12514 administrative first hand
506
Robert Bigelow spent much of his own money funding some of the costs of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP).
“He spent much of his own money fronting some of the costs for AAWSAP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:12600-12662 observation first hand
507
To accelerate its work, the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) gained access to a database of civilian eyewitness accounts, intending to track down eyewitnesses and debrief them about UAP sightings and aircraft encounters.
“In addition, to accelerate its UAP work, AAWSAP gained access to a database of civilian eyewitness accounts, intending to track down the eyewitnesses and debrief them about sightings and aircraft encounters.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:12823-13019 administrative first hand
508
It was allegedly claimed that the names and contact information of civilian eyewitnesses had been stripped from records before submission to the government, but that the redacted reports had allegedly been uploaded to Department of Defense (DoD) databases by someone in the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) government chain of command rather than by Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS).
“The names and contact information of those US citizens had allegedly been stripped out before anything went to the government, but the redacted reports had allegedly been uploaded to DoD databases, not by BAASS but by someone in AAWSAP's government chain of command.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:13031-13289 hearsay
509
If the alleged uploading of unredacted civilian eyewitness data to Department of Defense (DoD) databases were true, it would constitute a serious violation of multiple DoD regulations and possibly Executive Order 12333.
“If true, this act alone is a serious violation of multiple DoD regulations and possibly Executive Order 12333.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:13298-13402 opinion first hand
510
Several members of the Collins Elite were former colleagues and a former supervisor of Luis Elizondo.
“Later I learned that several of the group's members were former colleagues and even a former supervisor of mine.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:1553-1686 testimony first hand
511
Luis Elizondo accepted a new position as Director of National Programs, Special Management Staff, within the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD).
“I had recently accepted a new position as Director of National Programs, Special Management Staff, nestled within the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD).”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:15874-16028 administrative first hand
512
Luis Elizondo's new programme managed national-level special-access programs directly for the National Security Council (NSC) and the White House.
“The program managed national-level special-access programs directly for the National Security Council and the White House.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:16034-16150 administrative first hand
513
Luis Elizondo worked largely on US government efforts at the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba as part of his role in the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD).
“Specifically, I worked largely on the US government's efforts at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:16157-16251 administrative first hand
514
Luis Elizondo, Jim Semivan, and John Robert decided to move the remnants of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) away from the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and house it within Elizondo's portfolio of national programs.
“Jay, John Robert, and I decided to move the remnants of the effort away from DIA and house it within my portfolio of national programs, ensuring the prying eyes of our detractors would no longer have any visibility.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:16305-16509 administrative first hand
515
The only contractors who remained involved with the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) under Luis Elizondo and Jim Semivan were Harold Puthoff, William "Will" Livingston, and Eric Davis.
“The only contractors who would remain involved with Jay and me were Hal, Will Livingston, and Eric Davis.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:17028-17127 administrative first hand
516
The Collins Elite operated in complete anonymity within the Pentagon and intelligence community.
“Their ability to operate in complete anonymity was their strength. They were single-minded Pentagon and intelligence community lifers with the power to shape policy and kill programs simply with a whisper or a nod.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:1723-1933 testimony first hand
517
Michael Higgins served in the United States Marine Corps before becoming an operator for a US intelligence agency.
“After leaving the US Marine Corps, he became an elite trigger puller for one of the three-letter intelligence agencies.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:18130-18240 administrative first hand
518
Michael Higgins had recently taken over as the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA)'s new Director of Operations.
“As it so happened, he had recently taken over as the DIA's new Director of Operations.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:18431-18506 administrative first hand
519
Luis Elizondo called Michael Higgins and asked him to protect James Lacatski from internal persecution within the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).
“"Michael, I need you to protect one of our scientists. He is a good man who has done great things for our country, and your agency is trying to persecute him. I need to call in a favor and make sure he is protected from internal DIA forces."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:18562-18794 testimony first hand
520
Michael Higgins agreed to Luis Elizondo's request and said he would look into protecting James Lacatski.
“Michael simply replied, "You got it, Lue. I will look into it."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:18804-18863 testimony first hand
521
The original funding for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) was programmed for the years 2008 to 2012.
“The original funding was programmed for the years 2008–12.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:19346-19401 administrative first hand
522
Harry Reid thought he could secure a fresh infusion of funding to sustain the UAP investigations from 2013 to 2014.
“Reid thought he could come up with another fresh infusion of funding to tide our investigations over until 2013–14.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:19405-19517 testimony second hand
523
Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) was a hot buzzword in Congress, the Pentagon, and the intelligence community at the time.
“At the time, the hot buzzword in Congress, the Pentagon, and the IC was ISR, which stood for intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:19548-19673 observation first hand
524
Neill Tipton helped build the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“"I helped build the program. Why wouldn't I be?"”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:21899-21942 testimony first hand
525
Jay Stratton secured $10 million in new funding for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) from Harry Reid.
“Jay ran point on pulling off miracle after miracle and succeeded in getting Senator Reid to give us new funding—$10 million!”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:23014-23130 testimony first hand
526
After the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) secured $10 million in new funding, another Department of Defense (DoD) program took the funds because the language on the funding bill was ambiguous enough to allow someone in a powerful position to redirect the money to another line item.
“we learned that another DoD program had absconded the funds... This happened because the language on the funding bill was ambiguous enough for someone in a powerful position to justify kicking the money to another line item.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:23181-23434 testimony first hand
527
Lue Elizondo had prior training in microbiology.
“My former training in microbiology likely made me a bit of a nuisance to Will”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:25348-25421 administrative first hand
528
Luis Elizondo had heard stories of a powerful circle of religious fundamentalists, referred to as the Collins Elite, who shaped policy within the United States Department of Defense (DoD).
“As long as I'd worked the UAP issue, I'd heard stories of a powerful circle of religious fundamentalists who shaped policy within the Department of Defense. They were referred to as the Collins Elite.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:255-449 hearsay
529
In alleged alien implants found in humans, living human tissue grew around the implants but such growths never contained anything but the patient's own DNA.
“often living tissue grew around implants, but such growths never contained anything but the patient's DNA in them”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:25658-25767 observation second hand
530
Growths around alleged alien implants sometimes sprouted multiple brightly coloured hairs or filaments, similar to Morgellons fibers.
“The growths sometimes sprouted multiple brightly colored hairs or filaments, similar to Morgellons fibers.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:25773-25872 observation second hand
531
When researchers scrape away the human tissue surrounding an alleged alien implant, they find objects resembling a technical device in size and shape but without any circuitry.
“When researchers scrape away the human tissue, they find objects that resemble a technical device in size and shape but without any circuitry whatsoever.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:25880-26022 observation second hand
532
Lue Elizondo personally handled an alleged alien implant provided to him by a Department of Veterans Affairs hospital, which had been removed from a US military servicemember who had encountered an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP).
“I once handled one of these implants myself, provided to me by a hospital in the Department of Veterans Affairs, where it had been removed from a US military servicemember who had encountered a UAP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:26034-26254 observation first hand
533
Harry Reid and fellow senators who supported funding the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) and Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) favoured applying science and intellect to the UAP problem.
“Harry Reid and his cohort of fellow senators who had supported funding AAWSAP/AATIP appreciated the concept of applying science and intellect to the UAP problem—a completely secular view that I heartily embraced.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:2619-2822 opinion first hand
534
The alleged alien implant Lue Elizondo handled was no longer or wider than a finger joint and looked like a microchip encapsulated by a slimy, semi-translucent casing of tissue resembling mother-of-pearl.
“The material, no longer or wider than a joint of one of your fingers, looked more like a microchip encapsulated by a slimy semitranslucent casing of tissue. It looked very similar to mother-of-pearl.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:26259-26452 observation first hand
535
Under a microscope, the alleged alien implant handled by Lue Elizondo was still moving.
“Under a microscope, it was still moving somehow.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:26459-26499 observation first hand
536
A doctor hypothesised that the alleged alien implant Lue Elizondo handled had its own metabolism.
“The doctor hypothesized that it had its own metabolism.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:26508-26552 opinion second hand
537
The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) obtained photographs of alleged alien implant-like objects from living foreign military pilots.
“AAWSAP/AATIP had also obtained photographs of these sorts of tiny objects from living foreign military pilots.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:26564-26667 administrative first hand
538
Alleged alien implants removed from individuals were reportedly sent to medical institutions including the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), the National Institutes of Health (NIH), and a US Army research facility at Fort Detrick, Maryland.
“Some of the specimens that have been removed from individuals were allegedly sent to various medical institutions, such as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the Food and Drug Administration, the National Institutes of Health, and a US Army research facility at Fort Detrick in Maryland”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:26675-26966 hearsay second hand
539
Doctors have reported cases where alleged alien implants evaded extraction by moving subcutaneously when doctors tried to excise them.
“doctors had seen cases where the alleged alien implant evaded extraction by moving subcutaneously when doctors tried to excise it”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:27300-27427 hearsay second hand
540
Alleged alien implants moved without leaving an obvious pathway of tissue destruction and without an obvious immune response, unlike the enormous immune response Lue Elizondo observed when studying trypanosomes moving under the skin at the University of Miami.
“With my background in microbiology, I was perplexed how highly motile objects such as these could move without creating a devastating path of tissue destruction inside the human body... I knew from my time studying trypanosomes at the University of Miami that anytime these spirochetes moved about under the skin, they would elicit an enormous immune response.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:27591-28017 observation first hand
541
Lue Elizondo studied trypanosomes at the University of Miami.
“I knew from my time studying trypanosomes at the University of Miami”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:27852-27915 administrative first hand
542
Doctors reported detecting alleged alien implants moving under the skin without obvious signs of pathway destruction, as if evading the natural human immune response.
“Doctors reported detecting the implant moving, but there weren't any obvious signs of pathway destruction... almost as if evading the natural human immune response.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:28081-28271 hearsay second hand
543
After extraction, some alleged alien implants moved around the petri dish in which they were confined until they ran out of energy.
“Post-extraction, some implants moved around the petri dish in which they were confined until they ran out of energy.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:28524-28633 hearsay second hand
544
A doctor told Lue Elizondo that alleged alien implants might have drawn energy from their host's body.
“One theory a doctor told me was that they drew their energy from their host's body.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:28641-28719 hearsay second hand
545
A senior Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) official and his wife reported a terrifying Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) experience in the backyard of their own home, after which they awoke lying on the ground.
“a senior CIA official and his wife had a terrifying UAP experience in the backyard of their own home. When they awoke lying on the ground in the yard”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:28754-28899 hearsay second hand
546
After the reported backyard Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) encounter, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer had a small hole punched in the back of his neck.
“the CIA officer had a small hole punched in the back of his neck”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:28905-28965 hearsay second hand
547
The wife of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer in the reported backyard Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) encounter had a small metallic object come out of her nose when she sneezed.
“his wife had a small metallic object recovered from her nose when she sneezed”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:28975-29045 hearsay second hand
548
Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) doctors were notified of and examined the CIA officer and his wife after their reported backyard Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) encounter.
“CIA doctors were notified of the circumstances and examined the patients”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:29091-29155 hearsay second hand
549
A researcher reported finding long filaments, again similar to Morgellons fibers, moving under their own power while under a microscope.
“Another researcher reported finding long filaments, again akin to Morgellons fibers, moving under their own power while under the microscope, scaring the researcher to the point that she didn't want to study the samples anymore.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:29309-29529 hearsay second hand
550
Devon Woods assumed a senior role at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).
“Earlier I mentioned a distinguished leader I'm referring to as Devon Woods, who had assumed a senior role at DIA.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:3662-3771 administrative first hand
551
Devon Woods was Luis Elizondo's unofficial mentor when Elizondo first came to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI).
“Woods had been my unofficial mentor when I first came to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI).”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:3873-3983 administrative first hand
552
Devon Woods had a career with the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) before joining the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI).
“He had an illustrious career with the CIA before coming on board ODNI.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:3990-4055 administrative first hand
553
Devon Woods did not get along with James Clapper, who was Luis Elizondo's boss at the United States Department of Defense (DoD) and served as undersecretary of defense for intelligence.
“Unfortunately, Woods did not get along with my current boss over at DoD, Lieutenant General James Clapper, who at the time was the undersecretary of defense for intelligence.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:5031-5192 administrative first hand
554
James Clapper received a phone call from Barack Obama during a meeting with Luis Elizondo, and shortly afterward became the next Director of National Intelligence.
“"Sir, it's Obama," she said. Clapper stepped out to take the president's call. When he reentered the room, he said to us, "How do you all feel about me being the next director of national intelligence?" And just like that, he was.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:5551-5778 observation first hand
555
Devon Woods accepted the position of deputy director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) after James Clapper became Director of National Intelligence.
“When I next heard that Woods had accepted the position of the deputy director of DIA, I took this to be a consolation prize of sorts.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:6181-6308 administrative first hand
556
Within thirty to forty-five days of Devon Woods's reassignment to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the agency's attitude toward the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) work shifted, with higher-ups who had previously welcomed the reports beginning to question why the work was being done.
“Within thirty to forty-five days of my mentor's reassignment to DIA, the atmosphere at the agency changed with respect to our work. Woods brought in colleagues from the CIA. Suddenly the response to Lacatski's well-crafted reports to higher-ups elicited a shift in tone.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:6497-6762 observation first hand
557
Devon Woods brought in colleagues from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) after moving to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).
“Woods brought in colleagues from the CIA.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:6629-6666 observation first hand
558
In the fall of 2009, Luis Elizondo and Jim Semivan attended a meeting with James Lacatski in which they discussed whether the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) should drop investigations widely considered paranormal and instead focus solely on UAP threats.
“I remember a meeting in the fall of 2009 that Jay and I attended with Jim, in which we openly talked about the wisdom of Jim dropping the investigations AAWSAP had gotten involved with that many considered to be dealing with the paranormal and instead focusing solely on UAP threats.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:7085-7360 observation first hand
559
James Lacatski's briefing intended for Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and Department of Defense (DoD) leadership included the terms archangels, angels, demons, and spiritual realm.
“The only problem: the briefing Jim wanted to share with leadership included words like *archangels*, *angels*, *demons*, and *spiritual realm*.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:8057-8193 observation first hand
560
James Lacatski believed that research on Skinwalker Ranch was worth pursuing.
“Jim believed with all his core that research on Skinwalker Ranch was worth pursuing.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:8947-9022 opinion second hand
561
In the spring of 2010, James Lacatski confided to Luis Elizondo that he was being pressured to stop all Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) efforts.
“Sometime after that, in the spring of 2010, Jim confided in me that he was being pressured to stop all efforts.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:9218-9321 testimony second hand
562
James Lacatski planned to meet with Deputy Secretary of Defense William J. Lynn in 2010 in an effort to allay concerns about the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP).
“He was about to take a meeting with Deputy Secretary of Defense William J. Lynn, hoping he could talk some sense into the deputy secretary and allay any of DoD's fears or concerns.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:9330-9501 observation first hand
563
Jay Stratton shared a video with Luis Elizondo showing a wedge-shaped craft flying within approximately fifteen metres of a naval aviator's cockpit during a routine mission, filmed on the cockpit camera.
“Just then, a wedge-shaped craft zooms by the cockpit as close as fifty feet.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:10083-10154 observation third hand
564
When Luis Elizondo and colleagues slowed down the naval aviator cockpit video frame by frame, the object was not any type of aircraft used by the United States or its adversaries.
“It was not any type of aircraft that we or our enemies have. It was completely alien.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:10444-10523 observation first hand
565
A Predator unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) conducting surveillance of a nuclear facility in a hostile country had its camera pick up three luminous objects that flew in a regimented triangular formation.
“Just three dots. Unexplainably, the dots began to fly in a regimented formation. *A perfect triangle*.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:10751-10843 observation
566
For twenty-three minutes, three luminous craft manoeuvred around a Predator unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) that was surveilling a nuclear facility in a hostile country.
“For twenty-three minutes, these craft tormented the Predator.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:10980-11032 measurement
567
The three luminous craft observed near the Predator unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) traversed approximately ninety-seven kilometres almost instantaneously, travelling to the horizon before darting back to shadow the Predator within a few hundred metres.
“They traversed sixty miles in the blink of an eye, traveling to the horizon, only to dart back and shadow the Predator within a few hundred feet.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:11042-11182 measurement
568
The three luminous craft observed near the Predator unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) switched from a wedge formation to a linear formation.
“the three craft would routinely reorient themselves, switching from a wedge formation to a linear formation”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:11221-11319 observation
569
Luis Elizondo felt the three luminous craft observed near the Predator unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) were toying with the drone and appeared curious about it, often approaching for closer inspection.
“As they danced across the sky, they appeared to be toying with our Predator. "See what we can do and you can't?" was the message I felt in my gut. The craft seemed curious about the Predator, often coming in for closer inspection.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:11330-11549 opinion first hand
570
Luis Elizondo shared the naval aviator cockpit UAP video with industry aviation experts, who assessed that the object was not a conventional aircraft.
“Lue: "Are these conventional aircraft?" Expert: "No. Not a chance."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:12093-12151 opinion second hand
571
An aviation expert consulted by Luis Elizondo assessed that even if the observed object were a semi-inflatable balloon with a shrouded, cooled, two-way inducted fan using superconducting avionics and stealth skin, it would still face a power supply problem because no battery could last that long.
“Well, I suppose if someone had the ability to create a semi-inflatable balloon with a two-way inducted fan in the middle that was shrouded and cooled using superconducting avionics, stealth skin, and paint, I suppose it's possible. But then you have a power supply issue. No battery can last that long.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:12355-12679 opinion second hand
572
The same aviation expert concluded that the balloon-with-fan hypothesis did not explain the naval aviator cockpit UAP video.
“Lue: "Is that what we are seeing here?" Expert: "No, not a chance."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:12697-12755 opinion second hand
573
Luis Elizondo's new base of operations for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was office 3C503A, third floor, C-ring, fifth corridor, alpha suite, in the Pentagon.
“My new base of operations was office 3C503A—third floor, C-ring, fifth corridor, alpha suite—in the Pentagon.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:128-228 administrative first hand
574
Harold Puthoff theorised that the 1947 Roswell UAP crash was caused by Department of Defense (DoD) experiments with electromagnetic pulse (EMP) energy, a by-product of the atomic bomb, at a nearby test range.
“He had been thinking a lot about how the Roswell crash was believed to have been caused by DoD experiments with electromagnetic pulse (EMP) energy, a by-product of the atomic bomb, at one of the nearby test ranges.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:12848-13055 opinion second hand
575
Harold Puthoff theorised that if the aircraft involved in the 1947 Roswell UAP crash was downed by an electromagnetic pulse (EMP) by accident, this would mean the craft's technology had a vulnerability similar to modern aircraft and motor vehicles to circuitry disruption or directed-energy sources.
“Hal's theory: If the Roswell aircraft were downed with an EMP by accident, this could mean the aircraft had an Achilles' heel. It might mean that their tech then functioned in many ways similar to modern aircraft and motor vehicles in that they may have some sort of circuitry or vulnerability to directed energy sources.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:14056-14369 opinion second hand
576
Luis Elizondo considered that if Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) remain vulnerable to disruption by an electromagnetic pulse (EMP), it could in theory be used to intentionally cause a crash to retrieve a craft, but such use might be seen as an act of war or provocation.
“if UAP are still vulnerable to disruption by an EMP, we could, in theory, cause another crash intentionally, to retrieve the craft... If we were ever to employ such a weapon against these craft, we worry that it would be seen as an act of war, or provocation.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:14596-14885 opinion first hand
577
Luis Elizondo's mother lived in St. Michaels, Maryland, and was diagnosed with stage 4 stomach cancer, specifically non-Hodgkin's B-cell lymphoma.
“Mom, who had moved to the neighboring town of St. Michaels, Maryland, to be closer to us, was diagnosed with stage 4 stomach cancer, non-Hodgkin's B-cell lymphoma to be precise.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:15721-15890 administrative first hand
578
Luis Elizondo's mother had been married before she met his father, and Luis was her third and youngest son.
“She'd been married before she met my father, and I was her third and youngest son.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:16623-16701 administrative first hand
579
Janise Elizondo enjoyed the music of the French singer Edith Piaf.
“Janise loved the music of the French chanteuse Edith Piaf”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:17675-17728 administrative first hand
580
As Janise Elizondo was dying, Luis Elizondo had Ron play Edith Piaf's "La Vie en Rose" on a CD player by her hospital bed.
“Jolted out of the silence, I shouted to her boyfriend Ron, "Hit the play button." Warm and clear, Piaf's "La Vie en Rose" filled the room.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:18912-19046 observation first hand
581
Ron was Janise Elizondo's boyfriend at the time of her death.
“I shouted to her boyfriend Ron”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:18939-18966 administrative first hand
582
Janise Elizondo died while Edith Piaf's "La Vie en Rose" was playing, with her eyes opening after remaining closed for weeks before she passed.
“Her eyes, which had remained closed for weeks, fluttered open. Her bright blue eyes opened wide as if perceiving something the rest of us in the room could not. With a soft, awkward smile, she passed from this life.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:19273-19483 observation first hand
583
Luis Elizondo was assigned a parking spot along the Pentagon's River Entrance, alongside senior military staff including the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the secretaries of each service, the undersecretaries, and the Secretary of Defense.
“I was assigned a parking spot along the coveted River Entrance, alongside all the senior military staff, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the secretaries of each service, all of the undersecretaries, and the secretary of defense.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:1936-2167 administrative first hand
584
In February 2012, another tragedy befell the Elizondo family while Luis Elizondo was giving a tour of the Pentagon to a Japanese delegation of VIPs.
“Another tragedy befell our family months later, in February 2012. I was giving a tour of the Pentagon to a Japanese delegation of VIPs.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:19782-19912 administrative first hand
585
Luis D. Elizondo III was often asked to give personal tours of the Pentagon since he took visitors to areas that are not part of the normal Pentagon tour.
“as often asked to give personal tours since I took visitors to areas that are not part of the normal Pentagon tour.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:19983-20090 testimony first hand
586
During the February 2012 Jennifer Elizondo crosswalk accident, Luis D. Elizondo III had just taken a delegation through the E-ring, through the hallway of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, when he received a call from an Annapolis, Maryland telephone number he did not recognise.
“I had just taken the delegation through the E-ring, through the hallway of the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, when I received a call from an Annapolis, Maryland, telephone number that I did not recognize.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:20096-20298 testimony first hand
587
During the February 2012 Jennifer Elizondo crosswalk accident, a paramedic called Luis D. Elizondo III to inform him that his wife Jennifer Elizondo was being taken to the emergency room after being hit by a vehicle while crossing a crosswalk.
““We are taking your wife to the emergency room. She was hit by a vehicle while crossing a crosswalk.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:20552-20641 testimony second hand
588
During the February 2012 Jennifer Elizondo crosswalk accident, the paramedic told Luis D. Elizondo III that Jennifer Elizondo sustained a traumatic brain injury, was knocked unconscious, and was thrown several yards down the road.
““No, sir, she sustained a traumatic brain injury. She was knocked unconscious and thrown several yards down the road. We found her on the street.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:20798-20935 testimony second hand
589
During the February 2012 Jennifer Elizondo crosswalk accident, a driver ran through a crosswalk and struck Jennifer Elizondo along Spa Creek Bridge in Annapolis, Maryland.
“A driver had run through a crosswalk and plowed into her along Spa Creek Bridge in Annapolis.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:20945-21028 testimony first hand
590
On the morning of the February 2012 Jennifer Elizondo crosswalk accident, Luis D. Elizondo III had dropped Jennifer Elizondo off at work because they sometimes commuted together.
“Just that morning, I had dropped her off at work because we sometimes commuted together.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:21039-21118 testimony first hand
591
Luis D. Elizondo III and Jennifer Elizondo had a date night planned for the evening of the February 2012 crosswalk accident, and Jennifer Elizondo had left work early to walk to the restaurant to wait for him.
“We had a date night planned that evening. She’d gotten off early and decided to stroll to the restaurant and wait for me.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:21128-21273 testimony first hand
592
When Jennifer Elizondo was hit by a vehicle, Luis D. Elizondo III was an hour and a half away at the Pentagon.
“Now she lay in the back of an ambulance and I was an hour and a half away, at the Pentagon.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:21277-21359 testimony first hand
593
When Luis D. Elizondo III arrived at the hospital following the February 2012 Jennifer Elizondo crosswalk accident, he found Jennifer Elizondo with her doctors, along with his friend John Robert and a couple of other friends.
“When I arrived at the hospital, I found Jenn with her doctors. My buddy John Robert and a couple of other friends had come too.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:21370-21493 testimony first hand
594
Jennifer Elizondo was released from the hospital later the same night under the condition of strict supervision, and Luis D. Elizondo III drove her home to find their daughters waiting.
“When Jenn was released later that night under the condition of strict supervision, I drove her home to find our daughters waiting.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:21498-21620 testimony first hand
595
Luis D. Elizondo III and Jennifer Elizondo nearly lost Jennifer Elizondo and their daughter Alex Elizondo during Alex Elizondo's complicated, premature birth in 2001.
“I couldn’t help but think of the time I had nearly lost her and Alex during our daughter’s complicated, premature birth in 2001.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:21749-21872 testimony first hand
596
Three months after Jennifer Elizondo and Alex Elizondo were released from the hospital following Alex Elizondo's premature birth, the September 11 attacks occurred.
“Three months after mother and daughter were released from the hospital, the twin towers fell on 9/11”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:21970-22068 testimony first hand
597
Two months after the September 11 attacks, Luis D. Elizondo III received orders to deploy to a secret location in Uzbekistan called Karshi-Khanabad (K-2).
“two months later, I got the orders to saddle up for a mission to a secret location in Uzbekistan called Kashi Kannibad, otherwise known as “K-2.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:22072-22214 testimony first hand
598
Luis D. Elizondo III understood at the time of receiving his deployment orders to Karshi-Khanabad (K-2) that he was on his way to Afghanistan.
“I knew then I was on my way to Afghanistan.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:22218-22249 testimony first hand
599
When Luis D. Elizondo III deployed following the September 11 attacks, Jennifer Elizondo was still recovering, Alex Elizondo weighed only approximately 2.3 kilograms, and Taylor Elizondo had turned four years old.
“Jennifer was still recovering; Alex weighed only five pounds; Taylor had turned four.”
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600
The hospital treated Jennifer Elizondo's obvious injuries following the February 2012 crosswalk accident and ran some tests, with severe concussion as the initial diagnosis.
“The hospital had treated her obvious injuries and run some tests. Severe concussion was the initial diagnosis.”
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601
Jennifer Elizondo's far-ranging medical issues following the February 2012 crosswalk accident lay under the surface and would impact the Elizondo family's lives for years after.
“But her far-ranging medical issues lay under the surface, just waiting to make themselves known. What happened that day would impact our lives for years after.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:22994-23147 testimony first hand
602
Jay Stratton and Luis Elizondo personally handpicked everyone involved in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Jay and I handpicked everyone involved.”
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603
When Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) analysts were given sensor data without being told the target, some independently ruled out a plane, missile, drone, helicopter, kite, and balloon before concluding the object was an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP).
“After ruling out a plane, a missile, a drone, a helicopter, a balloon, a kite, it became obvious we were looking at a UAP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:3720-3838 observation first hand
604
Luis Elizondo would monitor a promising Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) recruit's work for about six months before inviting them to learn about the programme.
“If a recruit seemed promising, I'd monitor their work for about six months before inviting them out.”
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605
Luis Elizondo avoided recruiting anyone who was a science fiction fan or obsessed with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), preferring people of stable home life and sound mind.
“I did not want anyone who was a science fiction buff, or anyone who was obsessed with UAP. I wanted the normal Joe or Jane, of sound mind, and with no baggage at home.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:4572-4734 administrative first hand
606
Luis Elizondo would tell prospective Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) recruits that if they ever discussed the programme with anyone, he would fire them immediately and publicly deny the conversation had occurred.
“But if you ever mention this to anyone, I will fire you immediately and publicly deny we ever had this conversation.”
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607
Jay Stratton was skilled at getting fellow United States Navy members to talk about their Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encounters.
“Jay excelled at getting his fellow Navy members to talk.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:8162-8213 observation first hand
608
Jay Stratton and Luis Elizondo would tell military witnesses that they worked for a Special Access Program and it was likely the witness had encountered one of their technologies, encouraging witnesses to describe what they saw so it could be better concealed in future.
“we work for a Special Access Program, and it's very likely you came across one of our technologies. We do our best to hide these things, but sometimes people who are observant, such as yourself, see one. We would really appreciate it if you could tell us exactly what you saw, so if it *is* one of ours, we can hide it better in the future.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:8352-8685 testimony first hand
609
Lue Elizondo had a tattoo made at Black Anchor Tattoo depicting a hooded death's-head impaled on a dagger with the slogan "Shadow Hunters", honouring the AATIP (Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program) team.
“Needles danced along my skin, bringing to life the image of a hooded death's-head impaled on a dagger. The slogan: Shadow Hunters.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch18:1139-1261 observation first hand
610
Colleagues have nominated Garry P. Nolan for the Nobel Prize.
“Colleagues have nominated Garry for the Nobel Prize.”
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611
Lue Elizondo, through Garry P. Nolan, met billionaire entrepreneur Sean Parker and entertainer Lady Gaga, who fund cancer research.
“I had the privilege of meeting the billionaire entrepreneur Sean Parker and the entertainer Lady Gaga, to name two people who are doing more for humanity than they will ever take credit for.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch18:13678-13864 testimony first hand
612
Garry P. Nolan concurred with William "Will" Livingston that the UAP experiencers whose MRI images were examined had suffered brain scarring, known as white-matter disease.
“At first glance, Garry concurred with Will that all these people had suffered brain scarring. I was told that this is what doctors call white-matter disease because the scars appear as white in medical images.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch18:15558-15760 observation second hand
613
Lue Elizondo is deaf in one ear as a result of years of warfare, guns and exploding ordnance.
“I was deaf in one ear, scars lined my upper body from the various surgeries I had undergone”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch18:1767-1849 testimony first hand
614
Lue Elizondo has scars from various surgeries and joint damage from years of warfare.
“scars lined my upper body from the various surgeries I had undergone, my joints were shot”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch18:1790-1875 testimony first hand
615
Lue Elizondo was considered early in his career for the remote-viewing programme with Eugene Lessman.
“The program I was being considered for early in my career with Gene Lessman.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch18:18235-18303 testimony first hand
616
Lue Elizondo was exposed to chemicals and compounds that took a toll on his health, likely the result of military burn pits.
“I had been exposed to a number of chemicals and compounds that now took their toll on me, likely the result of military burn pits.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch18:1885-2010 testimony first hand
617
Mike, a tattoo artist at Black Anchor Tattoo in Denton, Maryland, was a traditionalist specialising in old-school Americana style tattoos.
“Mike at Black Anchor Tattoo had always done my work. He was a traditionalist whose specialty was old-school Americana.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch18:195-303 administrative first hand
618
The US government classified Lue Elizondo's injuries as "Service Related" and considered him disabled.
“At least all my injuries were documented and, according to the US government, “Service Related.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch18:2484-2571 administrative first hand
619
William "Will" Livingston conscientiously protected the names and identities of his patients due to patient confidentiality obligations under the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA).
“Will conscientiously protected the names and identities of his patients.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch18:3577-3640 observation first hand
620
Harold Puthoff calls the phenomenon of missing or lost time associated with UAP encounters, such as at the 1980 Rendlesham Forest incident, the Rip Van Winkle Effect.
“(Hal Puthoff calls this the Rip Van Winkle Effect.)”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch18:5102-5144 opinion second hand
621
Several members of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) had tattoos connected in some way to AATIP.
“Several members of AATIP had emblazoned meaningful images on their bodies that connected in some way to AATIP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch18:776-880 observation first hand
622
In that era at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), brain and neuroanatomical science considered smooth exterior brain surfaces to be indicative of extremely low animal intelligence incapable of tool making, sophisticated communication beyond sight, smell, or primitive vocal noises, and high-level cognition.
“In that era at the CIA, brain/neuroanatomical science considered smooth exterior brain surfaces to be indicative of extremely low animal intelligence incapable of tool making; no sophisticated communication capability beyond sight/smell (pheromones)/primitive vocal noises; and no high-level cognition.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:1010-1302 testimony second hand
623
Eric Davis and other colleagues were familiar with a rumoured crash-retrieval programme run by TRW out of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio.
“Eric and some of our other colleagues were familiar with TRW's rumored crash-retrieval program run out of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, and they shared this view, based on their recoveries.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:1427-1616 hearsay second hand
624
TRW has long been a major United States defence contractor.
“TRW has long been a major US defense contractor”
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625
TRW was eventually purchased by Northrop Grumman.
“and was eventually purchased by Northrop Grumman, another major defense contractor.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:1719-1791 administrative
626
An anonymous colleague who worked at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) decades earlier was given an official report and autopsy of the dissection of a nonhuman body recovered from an unspecified crashed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“when one of my colleagues worked at the CIA some decades earlier, he was given an official report/autopsy of the dissection of a nonhuman body that was recovered from an unspecified crashed UAP. This colleague asked me not to use his name.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:174-408 hearsay second hand
627
Northrop Grumman is a major United States defence contractor.
“another major defense contractor.”
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628
Credible sources, including those involved at the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), relayed facts about several historic Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) crashes from which nonhuman bodies were recovered by the United States, in addition to the 1947 Roswell UAP crash.
“Credible sources, including those involved at AATIP, told me the facts from several historic UAP crashes from which nonhuman bodies were recovered by the US, in addition to the Roswell crash.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:1804-1989 hearsay second hand
629
One deceased nonhuman body was allegedly recovered in December 1950 in Ciudad Acuña, Mexico, across the Rio Grande from Del Rio, Texas.
“Among the significant early crash retrievals was one deceased nonhuman body recovered in December 1950 in Ciudad Acuña, Mexico, across the Rio Grande from Del Rio, Texas.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:1997-2161 hearsay second hand
630
Four deceased nonhumans were allegedly recovered in 1989 from the crash of a large Tic Tac-shaped craft in Kazakhstan, Soviet Union.
“Again, in 1989, four deceased nonhumans were also allegedly recovered from a crash of a large Tic Tac in Kazakhstan, Soviet Union.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:2168-2292 hearsay second hand
631
The historic opinion that smooth exterior brain surfaces indicate low intelligence was recently proven wrong when studies of various animal species demonstrated that animal species having smooth exterior brain surfaces have complex communication techniques.
“the opinion from decades ago about brains was recently proven wrong when numerous studies of all kinds of animals demonstrated that animal species having smooth exterior brain surfaces do have complex communication techniques”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:2311-2526 testimony first hand
632
Studies have shown that some animal species with smooth exterior brain surfaces make tools and teach their young how to use them.
“do make tools and teach their young how to use them”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:2538-2585 testimony first hand
633
Certain fish use mathematics and geometry to communicate with mates.
“do use math and geometry to communicate with mates (certain fish do this)”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:2595-2663 testimony first hand
634
Bees have sophisticated social hierarchical societies with high-level communication and aviation navigation methods and mental mapping.
“Even bees have sophisticated social hierarchical societies with high-level communication and aviation navigation methods and mental mapping, etc.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:2733-2874 testimony first hand
635
Colleagues with knowledge of official reports on nonhuman biological remains posited that nonhumans piloting Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are either naturally evolved beings or engineered biological automatons.
“My colleagues who had knowledge of official reports on biological remains posited that the nonhumans piloting UAP are either naturally evolved beings or engineered biological automatons.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:3260-3435 hearsay second hand
636
Some researchers and experiencers have speculated that the Nordic aliens species created the Grays as minions to perform tasks for them.
“Some researchers and “experiencers” have speculated that one species, the so-called Nordic aliens, has created the lesser species, called the Grays, as their minions to do their dirty work.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:3448-3632 hearsay second hand
637
Ant colonies farm aphids similarly to how humans raise livestock, because well-fed aphids secrete a sticky, sweet substance called honeydew that ants seek.
“Ants farm another species, aphids, the way humans raise livestock, because well-fed aphids secrete a sticky, sweet substance called “honeydew” that the ants themselves crave.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:4042-4210 testimony first hand
638
The autopsy report on a nonhuman body recovered from an unspecified crashed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) described the brain as having no convolutions, with a smooth surface similar to lower-functioning animals on Earth, according to an anonymous person claiming to have worked at the Central Intelligence Agency decades earlier who reviewed the report.
“The report stated that the brain had no convolutions (the wrinkled exterior portion of the brain). Rather, what was described was a smooth surface, similar to lower-functioning animals here on earth.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:414-607 hearsay second hand
639
According to some press reports, current efforts in China are working to biologically engineer a superhuman.
“And according to some press reports, current efforts in China are working to biologically engineer a superhuman.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:4663-4764 hearsay second hand
640
Steve Justice is a former director of Advanced Systems Development at Lockheed Martin's Skunk Works division.
“my friend Steve Justice, former director of Advanced Systems Development at Lockheed Martin’s mysterious Skunk Works division”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:5009-5126 administrative first hand
641
The autopsy report described the nonhuman body recovered from a crashed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) as having a conjoined gut and liver, according to an anonymous person claiming to have worked at the Central Intelligence Agency decades earlier who reviewed the report.
“It also described a conjoined gut and liver, and a three-chambered heart, like reptiles.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:614-693 hearsay second hand
642
The autopsy report described the nonhuman body recovered from a crashed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) as having a three-chambered heart, similar to reptiles, according to an anonymous person claiming to have worked at the Central Intelligence Agency decades earlier who reviewed the report.
“and a three-chambered heart, like reptiles.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:659-693 hearsay second hand
643
The author of the autopsy on the recovered nonhuman body concluded the cadaver did not appear to have the requisite brain capacity to design and create aircraft capable of the observed manoeuvrability of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) it was recovered from, according to an anonymous person claiming to have worked at the Central Intelligence Agency decades earlier who reviewed the report.
“The author of the autopsy came to the conclusion the cadaver did not appear to have the requisite brain capacity to design and create aircraft capable of such stunning maneuverability.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:703-871 hearsay second hand
644
It was postulated in the autopsy report that the recovered nonhuman body might be a biological automaton created by something else with a greater intellect, according to an anonymous person claiming to have worked at the Central Intelligence Agency decades earlier who reviewed the report.
“It was postulated that it might be some sort of biological automaton, created by something else with a greater intellect.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:888-999 hearsay second hand
645
Someone had learned to penetrate United States airspace completely undetected, fly unchallenged over one of the nation's most sensitive military research areas, collect information on sensitive technology being tested, and then disappear.
“Somehow, someone had learned to penetrate US airspace completely undetected, fly unchallenged over one of the nation's most sensitive military research areas, collect information on one of our most sensitive technologies, then—poof—disappear.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:1003-1237 opinion first hand
646
In 2013, at the White Sands missile test range in New Mexico, scientists and researchers testing a classified device saw several mysterious and luminous orbs moving over a nearby ridge.
“Los Alamos, New Mexico, 2013: Scientists and researchers at the legendary White Sands missile test range, the same location where the Manhattan Project constructed the components for the atomic bomb during World War II, were testing yet another device (whose nature I cannot divulge) when witnesses spotted several mysterious and luminous orbs moving over a nearby ridge.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:101-466 observation first hand
647
The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) focused its work on simple questions about what could be known about unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).
“Back at AATIP, we focused our work on simple questions. What do we know about UAP? What can we boil all our knowledge down to?”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:10386-10513 testimony first hand
648
The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) identified five distinct performance characteristics, called "the observables", that categorised the advanced capabilities observed in unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).
“We realized all the advanced capabilities observed can be categorized according to five distinct performance characteristics. We called these the observables.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:11335-11481 testimony first hand
649
The first observable identified by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) for unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) is hypersonic velocity.
“The first observable is hypersonic velocity.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:11522-11557 testimony first hand
650
Sound travels at a speed of approximately 1,226 kilometres per hour.
“Sound travels at a speed of 762 miles per hour.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:11568-11610 measurement first hand
651
Hypersonic speed is defined as Mach 5, or five times the speed of sound, approximately 6,100 to 6,400 kilometres per hour.
“Hypersonic means Mach 5, five times the speed of sound—about 3,800 to 4,000 miles per hour.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:11617-11704 measurement first hand
652
Humans have vehicles that can travel over Mach 5, including the North American X-15, the NASA Space Shuttle, and certain missiles, but only in the upper atmosphere or space where the atmosphere is less dense.
“Do humans today have vehicles that can do over Mach 5? Yes, we do. For example, the X-15, the NASA Space Shuttle, and certain missiles can operate at speeds above Mach 5, but only in the upper atmosphere or in space, where the atmosphere is less dense.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:11711-11957 testimony first hand
653
The SR-71 Blackbird can just about reach Mach 5 at high altitudes, and any faster the aircraft would be incinerated by the heat generated.
“The SR-71 Blackbird can just about hit Mach 5 at high altitudes. Made up almost entirely of titanium, any faster, the aircraft would be incinerated by the heat generated.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:12066-12226 testimony first hand
654
The SR-71 Blackbird is made up almost entirely of titanium.
“Made up almost entirely of titanium, any faster, the aircraft would be incinerated by the heat generated.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:12131-12226 administrative first hand
655
When conventional aircraft go hypersonic, a sonic boom is usually heard as the sound barrier is broken, along with other detectable signatures such as heat ablation and atmospheric ionisation.
“Additionally, when our aircraft go hypersonic, we usually hear a sonic boom as the sound barrier is broken. There are other associated signatures as well, such as heat ablation and atmospheric ionization, which can likewise be detected by our sensors.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:12238-12481 testimony first hand
656
Initial Department of Defense (DoD) reports reviewed by Lue Elizondo described government witnesses standing around watching an out-of-this-world display of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) performance characteristics.
“The initial DoD reports I saw painted a picture of government witnesses standing around watching an almost obvious display of out-of-this-world performance characteristics.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:1249-1405 testimony second hand
657
Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) are routinely clocked travelling at Mach 17, more than approximately 21,000 kilometres per hour, and faster, at low altitudes, even at sea level.
“UAP are routinely clocked traveling at Mach 17 and faster at low altitudes, even at sea level. That's more than 13,000 miles per hour at low altitudes.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:12491-12634 measurement first hand
658
The second observable identified by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) for unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) is instantaneous acceleration, a sudden increase in velocity, including high-speed turns that would normally require a conventional aircraft many kilometres to complete.
“The next observable is instantaneous acceleration, which is defined as a sudden increase in velocity. The UAP we are observing are traveling at 13,000 miles per hour, sometimes faster, and instantaneously accelerating and stopping on a dime. This includes high-speed turns that would normally require a conventional aircraft many miles to complete.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:12646-12985 testimony first hand
659
Humans do not have aircraft capable of instantaneous acceleration like that observed in unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).
“Do humans have aircraft that can perform instant acceleration? No—not like this.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:12996-13071 opinion first hand
660
At full speed, the SR-71 Blackbird requires airspace roughly half the size of the state of Ohio to complete a right- or left-hand turn.
“As an example, at full speed, the SR-71, known as the Blackbird, requires airspace roughly half the size of the state of Ohio to complete a right- or left-hand turn.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:13078-13238 measurement first hand
661
Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) make immediate right-angle turns at speeds up to ten times faster than the SR-71 Blackbird.
“By contrast, UAP make immediate right-angle turns at speeds up to ten times faster than the SR-71.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:13244-13339 measurement first hand
662
Fighter pilots can experience up to 9 g-forces for a short duration, and high-g manoeuvres run the risk of blackout, injury, or death.
“Fighter pilots can experience up to 9 g-forces for a short duration of time. High-g maneuvers run the risk of blackout, injury, or death.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:13771-13902 measurement first hand
663
Pilots wear special g-suits to avoid being rendered unconscious as blood fights to reach or floods their brains during high-g manoeuvres.
“For this reason, pilots wear special g-suits. Without them they'd be rendered unconscious as blood fights to reach their brains or, worse, floods their brains.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:13909-14061 testimony first hand
664
The General Dynamics F-16 is one of the most highly manoeuvrable manned aircraft and can handle approximately 17 g-forces before experiencing structural failure.
“One of the most highly maneuverable manned aircraft is the General Dynamics F-16. This older yet very capable aircraft can handle approximately 17 g's before the craft experiences structural failure.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:14070-14261 measurement first hand
665
At structural failure, the General Dynamics F-16's wings begin to snap off and the plane starts to disintegrate.
“Wings begin to snap off, and the plane literally starts to disintegrate.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:14270-14329 testimony first hand
666
Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) display the ability to handle forces as high as several thousand g's, well beyond the limits the human body can withstand, which would shred conventional aircraft into confetti-sized pieces.
“In contrast, UAP display the ability to handle forces as high as several thousand g's, well beyond the limits that the human body can withstand. Conventional aircraft would be shredded into confetti-sized pieces.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:14344-14549 measurement first hand
667
The third observable identified by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) for unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) is low observability.
“The next observable is a bit of an oxymoron, but it's low observability.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:14558-14616 testimony first hand
668
Most modern aircraft leave visible contrails in the sky as the heat from their exhaust turns water vapour into a thin stream of cloud.
“For example, most aircraft leave visible contrails in the sky as they fly and the heat from their exhaust turns water vapor into a thin stream of cloud.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:14745-14891 testimony first hand
669
Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) leave almost no observable signature: no sonic booms, no obvious sound, no atmospheric ionisation, no heat ablation, and no contrails.
“UAP, however, leave almost no observable signature, no sonic booms or obvious sound at all, no atmospheric ionization, no heat ablation, no contrails.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:14936-15076 observation first hand
670
Some limited data on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) has been collected using visual collection systems, electromagnetic systems such as radar, and acoustic collection systems such as sonar, though capturing clear data has been very challenging.
“Luckily, there are some instances where we have collected limited data on UAP, using visual collection systems, electromagnetic systems such as radar, and acoustic collection systems such as sonar. However, capturing clear data has been very challenging.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:15088-15330 testimony first hand
671
Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) are diabolically hard to spot and identify with cameras, radar, or the naked eye.
“UAP are diabolically hard to spot and identify with cameras, radar, or the naked eye.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:15397-15478 opinion first hand
672
The fourth observable identified by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) for unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) is transmedium travel, the ability to operate in multiple domains such as space, the atmosphere, and underwater.
“The next observable is transmedium travel, the ability to operate in multiple environments, or domains, such as space, our atmosphere, and underwater.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:15484-15623 testimony first hand
673
Existing human seaplanes can fly and float but must make performance compromises to operate in both air and water.
“seaplanes can fly and float, but let's face it: a seaplane is neither a very good aircraft nor a very good boat. Why? Because to build the craft that can operate in both environments, air and water, its designers were forced to make compromises in performance in order to make the vehicle do what it needs to do.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:15736-16072 opinion first hand
674
White Sands Missile Range works with multiple agencies as masters and service providers, so jurisdiction over investigating unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) incidents there is unclear.
“White Sands works with many masters and service providers.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:1590-1638 opinion first hand
675
Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) have been observed operating superbly and equally well in space, in the air, and underwater without compromising their performance.
“UAP, on the other hand, have been observed operating superbly in space, in the air, and underwater. The same vehicle, in other words, can do all equally well. Moreover, they do this without compromising their performance.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:16077-16286 observation first hand
676
Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) have been seen going from space into the atmosphere and diving into the ocean without slowing down, splashing, or having any obvious effect on the surrounding environment.
“These objects have been seen going from space into our atmosphere and then diving into the ocean without slowing down, without splashing, and with no obvious effect on the surrounding environment.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:16424-16608 observation first hand
677
The United States Department of Defense (DoD) has jurisdiction over incidents at White Sands Missile Range because it is a DoD facility.
“DoD has some jurisdiction because it's their facility.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:1649-1694 administrative first hand
678
The fifth observable identified by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) for unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) is best described as antigravity, the ability to defy earth's gravitational pull.
“The next observable is best described in the vernacular as antigravity. Antigravity is a bad word in most scientific circles, but in essence, it means the ability to defy the natural effects of earth's gravitational pull on objects in the environment.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:16622-16863 testimony first hand
679
All objects on earth experience gravity equally, pulled toward the centre of the earth at 9.8 metres per second squared, because the earth's mass is consistent.
“All of us experience gravity on earth equally because the mass of the earth is consistent. It pulls us all toward the center of the earth equally at 9.8 meters per second.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:16876-17040 measurement first hand
680
The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) is responsible for handling federal crimes within the continental United States.
“The FBI is responsible for handling federal crimes within the continental US.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:1704-1778 administrative first hand
681
According to Einstein's physics, gravity is the warping of space-time itself, not simply a pulling force as described by Newtonian physics.
“It wasn't until Einstein that we learned that gravity is much more than simply a pulling force. Gravity is in fact the warping of space-time itself.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:17422-17563 testimony first hand
682
Standing on the moon, a person would experience time slightly faster than on earth or Jupiter because the moon's smaller mass warps space-time less.
“If I were standing on the moon and wearing a wristwatch, I would experience time slightly faster than I would on earth or Jupiter because the mass of the moon is much less and therefore warps space-time a little less.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:17664-17876 opinion first hand
683
The United States Department of Energy has its own jurisdiction over matters involving nuclear secrets and technology.
“The Department of Energy—a massive entity in its own right—has its own jurisdiction when it comes to nuclear secrets and technology.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:1782-1903 administrative first hand
684
Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) seem to defy the natural effect of earth's gravity without any obvious means of propulsion or lift, including no wings, no rotors, no propellers, and no control surfaces.
“UAP, however, seem to defy the natural effect of earth's gravity without any obvious means of doing so—that is, no signs of propulsion or lift. No wings, no rotors, no propellers. No control surfaces or means to maneuver.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:17883-18123 observation first hand
685
Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) are capable of achieving all five of the identified observables, though they may not display all of them in each individual encounter.
“UAP stand out because they can achieve all five of these observables. They may not display all of them in each individual encounter, but it looked to us as if they were capable of achieving them when pressed to do so.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:18134-18350 opinion first hand
686
A sixth observable, not a flight characteristic and not yet publicly discussed by the US government, is biological effects experienced during unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) encounters.
“The sixth observable is not a flight characteristic and has not yet been discussed publicly by our government, but I have mentioned it earlier: biological effects.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:18355-18510 testimony first hand
687
Many service personnel and intelligence officials who had unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) encounters have suffered biological effects including radiation burns and internal organ damage.
“Again, many service personnel and intelligence officials who had UAP encounters have suffered biological effects as a result of their experiences. These include radiation burns, internal organ damage, and other very real and documented medical issues.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:18520-18764 testimony first hand
688
Biological effects associated with unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) encounters include paradoxical time and perception distortions reported by witnesses.
“Biological effects also include paradoxical time and perception distortions revealed when witnesses talk about their encounters.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:18773-18890 testimony first hand
689
Some debriefed pilots insisted that a particular unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) encounter lasted only five minutes according to their perception, but the clock showed thirty minutes had elapsed, while their aircraft had consumed only five minutes' worth of fuel.
“Some pilots who were debriefed insisted that a particular encounter lasted only five minutes but the clock indicated that thirty minutes had in fact elapsed. Meanwhile, their aircraft showed that they'd consumed only five minutes' worth of fuel.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:18903-19143 testimony second hand
690
The physicist Max Planck developed a scale called Planck Time to describe what happened in the universe during its initial phase of existence and expansion.
“The physicist Max Planck developed a scale called Planck Time to describe what happened in the universe during its initial phase of existence and expansion.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:19545-19691 testimony first hand
691
There are more Planck seconds in one human second than there have been seconds since the dawn of the universe, which is approximately fourteen and a half billion years old.
“There are more Planck seconds in one human second then there are seconds since the dawn of the universe to now. Fourteen and a half billion years is a lot of human seconds.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:19749-19913 opinion first hand
692
Lue Elizondo was granted the highest level of clearance a General Schedule (GS) employee could obtain, permitting access to Confidential, Secret, Alternative Compensatory Control Measure (ACCM), Top Secret, Special Access Program (SAP), Controlled Access Program (CAP), and Covert Action intelligence.
“I had been granted the highest level of clearance a GS employee could expect to obtain. I was now permitted to access the full spectrum of intelligence and information—Confidential, Secret, Alternative Compensatory Control Measures (ACCM) Top Secret, Special Access Programs (SAPs), Controlled Access Programs (CAPs), and Covert Action.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:2121-2477 testimony first hand
693
Harold Puthoff was granted permission to publish all but one of the papers he had written for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Hal asked for and was granted permission to publish all but one of the papers he had written for us.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:23554-23651 administrative first hand
694
No one in government or in the physics community had, until Harold Puthoff received it, been given a list of verified UAP attributes culled from the most reliable detection platforms in existence.
“Until then, no one in government or in the physics community had ever given Hal what we had: a list of verified attributes culled from the most reliable detection platforms in existence.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:24003-24179 administrative first hand
695
In the parlance of the Department of Defense (DoD), a person with access to the full spectrum of intelligence classifications is called a "superuser".
“In the parlance of the DoD, I was called a “superuser.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:2485-2529 administrative first hand
696
Lue Elizondo was certified as a Special Technical Operations (STO) officer, holding the same sort of clearance as White House employees who carry the nuclear codes for the president.
“Certified as a Special Technical Operations (STO) officer, I had the same sort of clearance as the White House employees who carry the red phone or the nuclear codes for the president.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:2541-2715 testimony first hand
697
In the last years of the Obama administration, Lue Elizondo's primary work focus shifted heavily to counterterrorism efforts.
“In the last years of the Obama administration, my primary work focus had shifted heavily to counterterrorism efforts.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:2727-2836 testimony first hand
698
Lue Elizondo was tasked with running certain elements of Guantanamo Bay and the secret prison there known as Camp 7, which held suspected terrorists.
“I was tasked with running certain elements of Guantanamo Bay and the secret prison there known as Camp 7. It was a purgatory of sorts, where the US had placed the worst of the worst suspected terrorists.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:2845-3037 testimony first hand
699
Lue Elizondo had the clearances needed to work for the White House and the National Security Council (NSC).
“I had all the necessary clearances needed to work for the White House and the National Security Council.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:3050-3146 testimony first hand
700
When entering the Secretary of Defense's office to brief him or the Joint Staff, Lue Elizondo's badges and orange bag allowed him unquestioned access to virtually anywhere he needed to go.
“when I entered the secretary of defense's office to brief him and/or the Joint Staff, as long as I had my badges and my orange bag, I was good to go. This specific orange bag broadcasted to anyone in range that I was allowed access to virtually anywhere I needed to go without question.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:3235-3512 testimony first hand
701
Lue Elizondo was told when he first took his job that it is a federal crime to stop and detain a person carrying the orange bag from performing their duties, though he notes this could just be a legend.
“I was told when I first took the job, it is a federal crime to stop and detain such a person from his or her duties, but this could just be a legend.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:3522-3664 hearsay
702
From the moment Lue Elizondo reached the General Schedule pay grade 15 (GS-15), he was eligible for a chauffeur and vehicle from the motor pool while at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI).
“From the moment I'd hit the GS-15 pay level years ago, I was eligible for a chauffeur and vehicle from the motor pool while at the ODNI.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:3673-3804 testimony first hand
703
While at the Pentagon, Lue Elizondo was sometimes offered use of a federal Gulfstream V (G-V) from the "Starlifters" VIP fleet at Andrews Air Force Base in Maryland.
“Later, while at the Pentagon, I had perks like good parking and was sometimes offered use of a federal Gulfstream V (G-V) from the “Starlifters” VIP fleet at Andrews Air Force Base.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:3810-3986 testimony first hand
704
The nickname "Starlifters" for the VIP Gulfstream V fleet at Andrews Air Force Base referred to the stars on the epaulets of the generals who flew on these aircraft to destinations around the world.
““Starlifters” referred to the stars on the epaulets of the generals who flew these craft to destinations all over the world.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:3993-4110 administrative first hand
705
Lue Elizondo once flew on a government Gulfstream V accompanying a colleague, during which onboard staff served sandwiches, omelettes, and wine.
“Once, ages ago, I'd flown on a government G-V when asked to accompany a colleague. He enjoyed showing me how the other half lived, asking the onboard chef to whip us up sandwiches and omelets and summoning the waitstaff to pour us glasses of wine.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:4118-4360 testimony first hand
706
Lue Elizondo considers a Gulfstream V costing approximately 45 million US dollars an inappropriate government vehicle for lavish onboard hospitality.
“Wine and steak sandwiches on a $45 million plane? How was that a government vehicle?”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:4512-4590 opinion first hand
707
The witnesses to the orb sighting at White Sands Missile Range in 2013 included scientists, security personnel, and a Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) special agent assigned to the Albuquerque Field Office.
“These witnesses included scientists, security personnel, and an FBI special agent assigned to the Albuquerque Field Office.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:474-590 observation first hand
708
Lue Elizondo preferred flying on a "gray tail" Air Force cargo transport over a Gulfstream V, and preferred a Humvee over a limousine when landing.
“If given a choice when flying, I would much prefer taking a “gray tail,” an Air Force cargo transport, over a flashy G-V. I felt more at home riding in a cargo net than in a gilded leather seat. If given the choice upon landing, I'd take a Humvee over a limousine any day.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:4969-5237 opinion first hand
709
During the 2013 White Sands Missile Range orb sighting, the orbs moved toward the test site, hovered over the device being tested as if scanning it, then flew away over the heads of the scientists present.
“The orbs moved toward the test site, hovered over the device as if scanning it for intel, then zipped away, brashly flying over the heads of bewildered scientists.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:598-750 observation first hand
710
There was a weekly flight to Guantanamo Bay, using a 737 aircraft capable of carrying hundreds of people, that had been used for the September 11 attacks Military Commissions trial.
“there was a weekly flight to Guantanamo Bay that had been used for the 9/11 Military Commissions trial. It was a 737 and could haul hundreds of people at a time.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:5997-6153 testimony first hand
711
An attorney for one of the September 11 attacks suspects labelled Lue Elizondo in open court as the "US Czar of Torture".
“An attorney for one of the 9/11 suspects labeled me in open court as the “US Czar of Torture.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:6281-6366 testimony first hand
712
Europe issued an open arrest warrant for Lue Elizondo and anyone involved in the Rendition, Detention, and Interrogation (RDI) program of high-value detainees.
“At one point I was informed that Europe had issued an open arrest warrant for me and anyone involved in the notorious Rendition, Detention, and Interrogation (RDI) program of high-value detainees (HVDs).”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:6458-6655 testimony
713
The International Court of Human Rights decreed that any United States intelligence officer involved in the Rendition, Detention, and Interrogation (RDI) program would face trial if arrested.
“The International Court of Human Rights had decreed that any US intelligence officer involved in that effort would face trial if arrested.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:6662-6791 administrative second hand
714
Lue Elizondo was repeatedly haunted by images of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) flying in formation in the Predator drone video, and by nightmares of terrorists hunting his family.
“My brain played for me the images of those UAP flying in formation in the Predator video. In my nightmares, terrorists hunted down my family.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:6983-7117 testimony first hand
715
Lue Elizondo gained approximately eighteen kilograms during the period he was simultaneously dealing with high-value detainee and unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) work.
“I gained forty pounds in the process.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:7433-7462 testimony first hand
716
Following the initial orb sighting, eyewitnesses at White Sands Missile Range in 2013 later saw a formation of disc-shaped objects that seemed to know precisely where the tested device was located, and this occurred several times over a few days.
“Later, several eyewitnesses saw a formation of disc-shaped objects that seemed to know precisely where the device being tested was located. This occurred several times over a few days.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:762-941 observation first hand
717
The Obama administration had sworn to shut down Guantanamo Bay (GTMO) even though Lue Elizondo was running its most sensitive program.
“The Obama administration had sworn to shut down GTMO, or Gitmo, as Guantanamo is often called, even though they had me running their most sensitive program.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:7639-7787 testimony first hand
718
Colleagues told Lue Elizondo that senior leadership at briefings blamed him personally to absolve themselves of responsibility for Guantanamo Bay not closing.
“Colleagues told me that they had attended briefings in which senior leadership tossed around my name to absolve themselves of any responsibility for GTMO not closing, choosing instead to feed me to the sharks as chum.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:7796-8008 hearsay second hand
719
An unnamed senior official said that Guantanamo Bay remained open because of one person and one person only: Lue Elizondo.
““Don't blame me,” one senior said. “GTMO is still open because of one person and one person only: Lue Elizondo.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:8016-8117 hearsay second hand
720
The recidivism rate of terrorists returning to the battlefield after release from Guantanamo Bay was more than 40 percent, higher than publicly stated.
“The recidivism rate of terrorists returning to the battlefield was much higher than publicly stated—more than 40 percent.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:8330-8443 testimony first hand
721
Lue Elizondo lost several friends who were killed by former Guantanamo Bay detainees who had been released and later used suicide bombs.
“I had lost several friends to Pentagon whitewashing. They had been killed by individuals who were released and later chose to exit this life with bombs strapped to their chests.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:8452-8622 testimony first hand
722
Detainees at Camp 7 in Guantanamo Bay used interpreters on their defence teams to ferry messages back and forth to other terrorists.
“There was also the issue of detainees using the interpreters on their defense team to ferry messages back and forth to other terrorists.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:8675-8800 testimony first hand
723
Camp 7 in Guantanamo Bay held some of the worst terrorists, including those who admitted involvement in the September 11 attacks.
“This was the most notoriously secure prison, Camp 7, which held some of the worst terrorists, those who admitted to involvement in 9/11.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:8812-8945 testimony first hand
724
Lue Elizondo and his colleague John Robert believed that Camp 7 detainees should not be released under any circumstances.
“My colleagues, like John Robert, and I believed that these people should not be released under any circumstances, but the powers that be did not all agree.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:8949-9098 opinion first hand
725
Jennifer's outlook on life changed following the crosswalk accident she suffered in Annapolis, Maryland.
“The accident in the crosswalk in Annapolis had changed her outlook on so many things.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:9470-9548 testimony first hand
726
After her crosswalk accident, Jennifer no longer cared for the trappings of the upper-middle-class life she and Lue Elizondo were pursuing.
“She no longer cared for the trappings of the upper-middle-class life we were supposedly pursuing.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:9556-9644 testimony first hand
727
Jennifer asked Lue Elizondo what he would wish he had devoted his life to if he died tomorrow.
“She asked me, if you died tomorrow, what would you wish you had devoted your life to?”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:9718-9800 testimony first hand
728
While on their way to divorce court more than once, Jennifer told Lue Elizondo she cared for three things only: their two daughters and him.
“On our way to divorce court more than once, Jenn now cared for three things and three things only: our two girls and me.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:9805-9922 testimony first hand
729
A defense contractor associated with the Legacy Program was reported to be in possession of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) materials of nonhuman origin, made by a civilisation from a distant planet.
“We were told specifically that a defense contractor, associated with the Legacy Program, was in possession of UAP materials of nonhuman origin, made by some civilization from some distant planet.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:109-297 hearsay second hand
730
Lue Elizondo believed a handful of aerospace firms had been cleared to accept and keep forever any off-world technology that came into the hands of the US government.
“We already knew or suspected that a handful of aerospace firms had been cleared to accept and keep forever any off-world tech that came into the hands of the US government.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:1109-1270 opinion first hand
731
Aerospace firms cleared to keep off-world technology would actively work to get an inquirer fired or their security clearance canceled if the inquirer started asking questions.
“But they weren't talking—and would actively work to get you fired or your clearance canceled if you start asking questions.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:1282-1395 opinion first hand
732
Lue Elizondo concluded the United States Air Force had long been a key player in efforts related to the Legacy Program.
“We now knew the Air Force had long been a key player in the Legacy efforts”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:1489-1556 opinion first hand
733
Lue Elizondo believed the defense contractor had no genuine intention of giving the team access to the nonhuman UAP material and had sent them on a fool's errand.
“In reality, they had no intention of giving this to us.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:1644-1696 opinion first hand
734
From the moment Lue Elizondo joined the team, the United States Air Force was stubbornly and mysteriously uncooperative on the topic of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“From the moment I came on board the team, I learned that the Air Force was stubbornly and mysteriously uncooperative on the topic of UAP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:1851-1984 observation first hand
735
Lue Elizondo's team sent carefully crafted emails to United States Air Force liaisons requesting information or follow-up details on UAP incidents, and the requests were repeatedly denied or ignored entirely.
“I cannot enumerate the times we sent carefully crafted emails to Air Force liaisons requesting information or follow-up details on UAP incidents, only to have the requests denied or ignored entirely.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:2029-2219 observation first hand
736
Project Blue Book was terminated by the United States Air Force in 1969.
“Perhaps they had buried the past when they euthanized Project Blue Book in 1969.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:2741-2816 administrative first hand
737
Lue Elizondo became convinced that the United States Air Force was part of the cover-up regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“It had become extremely clear to me that the Air Force was part of the cover-up.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:2874-2951 opinion first hand
738
Jay Stratton contacted the defense contractor associated with the Legacy Program to inquire about the nonhuman UAP materials on behalf of Lue Elizondo's team, and the contractor acknowledged possessing the material.
“When Jay went to inquire for us, the contractor acknowledged that, yes, they were in possession of this material.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:305-409 testimony second hand
739
Lue Elizondo's team knew that adversary nations had their own Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) research programmes.
“We knew that our adversaries had their own UAP research programs.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:3115-3171 observation first hand
740
Lue Elizondo's team investigated regular incursions of the most sensitive restricted United States airspace as an urgent national security concern.
“We also had incursions of our most sensitive restricted airspace happening regularly, and urgent national security concerns we were investigating.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:3181-3313 observation first hand
741
Lue Elizondo considered that the September 11 attacks could have been prevented had agencies including the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) shared their information about Al Qaeda together.
“I thought about 9/11 and how it could have been prevented if agencies had shared information. In that case, you had CIA with information, FBI with information, other organizations with information, and frankly, if they shared it all together, they may have prevented the Al Qaeda attack.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:3588-3895 opinion first hand
742
Lue Elizondo's team pressed the question of where the biological remains were, despite knowing the US government had recovered both intact and partial nonhuman craft.
“Knowing the US government had recovered both intact and partial craft, where were the biological remains? "Where the hell are the biosamples?"”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:3931-4061 opinion first hand
743
After years of work on the topic of biological remains, Lue Elizondo's team had not received an answer to the question of where the biosamples were, receiving only excuses instead.
“After years of work on the topic, we still had not received an answer to this key question. What reached my ears instead were excuse after excuse.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:4075-4214 observation first hand
744
The defense contractor said it would give Lue Elizondo's team access to the nonhuman UAP material but that they first needed permission from the Secretary of the United States Air Force.
“They said they would give us access to it but first we needed to get permission from the secretary of the US Air Force.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:419-532 testimony second hand
745
Lue Elizondo's team had data, reports, photos, video, and numerous eyewitnesses regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“We had data, reports, photos, video, and countless eyewitnesses.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:4222-4273 observation first hand
746
The modern era of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings is dated to 1947, meaning those who came before had almost eighty years to obfuscate and bury the truth.
“If you accept that the "modern" era of UAP sightings dates to 1947, that means those who came before us had almost eighty years to obfuscate and literally bury the truth.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:4288-4452 opinion first hand
747
Senior officials told Lue Elizondo continuously and confidentially that big aerospace companies have been part of the Legacy Program to retrieve and reverse-engineer crash materials.
“Senior officials told me continuously and confidentially that big aerospace companies have been part of the Legacy Program to retrieve and reverse-engineer crash materials.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:4460-4622 hearsay second hand
748
Lockheed Martin, TRW, McDonnell Douglas, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, Raytheon, BAE Systems, and the Aerospace Corporation were named by senior officials as aerospace and defence companies involved in the Legacy Program to retrieve and reverse-engineer crash materials.
“The big names included Lockheed Martin, TRW, McDonnell Douglas, Northrop Grumman, Boeing, Raytheon, BAE Systems, and the Aerospace Corporation, all of which have long been principal members of the US military-industrial complex.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:4633-4853 hearsay second hand
749
Monsanto, a biotechnology corporation absorbed by Bayer in 2018, may have historically been involved in the Legacy Program, most likely dealing with biological specimens.
“I was also told that Monsanto, a biotechnology corporation absorbed by Bayer in 2018, may have historically been involved, most likely dealing with biological specimens.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:4862-5021 hearsay second hand
750
Lue Elizondo believed that if another organisation had eighty years of information on the topics his team was investigating, they should have been working together rather than in competition to address national security concerns.
“If another organization had eighty years of information on what we were investigating, then we should have been working with them rather than in competition. We should have been working together to address the national security concerns.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:5200-5428 opinion first hand
751
Lue Elizondo believed the existence of the Legacy Program would mean there was a deep conspiracy within the US government to keep the truth from US citizens.
“The existence of the Legacy Program would mean there was a deep conspiracy within the US government to keep the truth from US citizens.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:5438-5564 opinion first hand
752
Lue Elizondo believed a programme like the Legacy Program would require huge resources, with program security costs alone being obscene.
“Such a program would require huge resources, not only to conduct daily operations. The costs of program security alone would be obscene.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:5574-5702 opinion first hand
753
The defense contractor's acknowledgement confirmed a long-standing memorandum generated by the United States Air Force that made the contractor beholden to the Air Force's strict handling requirements for the recovered material.
“The contractor was acknowledging a long-standing memorandum generated by the Air Force which made the contractor beholden to the USAF's strict handling requirements.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:575-727 opinion first hand
754
The powers that be exploited the archaic US Espionage Act, dating back to the early twentieth century, to keep people quiet about UAP crash retrieval and reverse-engineering programmes.
“Only later did we learn that the powers that be exploited an archaic law, the US Espionage Act, dating back to the early twentieth century, to keep people quiet.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:6134-6289 opinion first hand
755
The Espionage Act was used to threaten military personnel and contractors with execution without trial if they spoke about UAP crash retrieval programmes.
“They waved this act around to threaten military personnel and contractors that they would be executed without trial if they spoke.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:6296-6420 opinion first hand
756
Lue Elizondo learned that nonhuman biological samples had moved many times and some were now located either at Fort Detrick, Maryland, or with the US Food and Drug Administration.
“Eventually, after relentlessly pushing, I learned that nonhuman biological samples had moved many times and *some* were now either at Fort Detrick, Maryland, or with the US Food and Drug Administration.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:6428-6615 hearsay second hand
757
The nonhuman biological samples had been moved around so much that their original chain of custody might have been lost, with samples sitting in refrigerators with no one knowing what they were or where they came from.
“Ironically, the samples had been moved around so much that their original chain of custody might have been lost, with samples sitting in a refrigerator somewhere and no one having a clue what they were or where they came from.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:6631-6852 opinion first hand
758
Bovine samples related to alleged cattle mutilations could be found with the United States Department of Agriculture.
“As for bovine samples related to alleged cattle mutilations, those could be found with the US Department of Agriculture.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:6858-6966 hearsay
759
A veterinarian from Montana who worked with the United States Department of Agriculture and conducted autopsies on some of the mutilated cattle told Lue Elizondo he believed these animals had been killed by a technology not yet seen, and that no one was taking it seriously other than the ranchers.
“A veterinarian from Montana who happened to work with the USDA and conducted autopsies on some of the cattle expressed his concern to me that these poor creatures had been killed by a technology we have yet to see and that no one was taking it seriously, other than the ranchers.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:6979-7249 testimony second hand
760
Lue Elizondo had no way of gaining access to the nonhuman biological samples or other materials, which increased the team's frustration.
“I had no way of getting to these or other samples, which only increased the frustration we all felt.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:7259-7354 observation first hand
761
Lue Elizondo considers this development evidence that the United States Air Force had not only known about crash retrievals but had historic control over them and leverage with defense contractors including this one.
“This proved that the Air Force had indeed not only known about crash retrievals but had a historic control over them and leverage with this defense contractor and probably others.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:741-913 opinion first hand
762
The defense contractor said that after decades they were no longer able to glean any meaningful understanding of the recovered nonhuman material and considered it an expensive liability.
“In the words of the contractor, after decades, they were no longer able to glean any meaningful understanding of the recovered material and they considered it now an expensive liability.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:921-1097 hearsay second hand
763
Harold Puthoff is an expert on the theory of zero-point energy, which posits free energy exists in the vacuum of space that could be harnessed.
“Hal was an expert on the theory of zero-point energy, a holy grail of science that stipulates there is free energy even in the vacuum of space that we can harness.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:1018-1173 observation first hand
764
Almost all people in William "Will" Livingston's studies with remote-viewing abilities and/or UAP encounters and biological effects, who were military and intelligence officials, had Native American DNA, specifically Cherokee blood.
“It turned out that almost all the people in Will’s studies—military and intelligence officials with remote-viewing abilities and/or UAP encounters and biological effects—had Native American DNA. Specifically, Cherokee blood.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:10732-10977 observation first hand
765
Luis Elizondo, Jay Stratton, Harold Puthoff, and John Robert all had Cherokee blood, and were all involved with the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Even more surprising, socializing this revelation led to also discovering that almost everyone who was involved with AATIP had this background as well. I did. Jay did. Hal did. John Robert did. And others as well.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:10985-11193 observation first hand
766
Key players on Senate committees who were very active in the UAP topic turned out to have Cherokee blood.
“Even stranger, key players on Senate committees, people who were very active in this topic, turned out to have Cherokee blood.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:11200-11320 observation first hand
767
Harold Puthoff focused on explaining the six observables using physics as currently understood, specifically Einstein's theory of relativity.
“Hal was very focused on figuring out how to explain the observables using physics as we know it, specifically Einstein’s theory of relativity.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:113-244 observation first hand
768
Luis Elizondo's mother inherited Cherokee blood from her family in Kentucky.
“My mom inherited Cherokee blood from her family in Kentucky.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:11365-11416 testimony first hand
769
Papers Harold Puthoff co-wrote proposed a new paradigm for interstellar travel.
“The papers Hal cowrote in the past for us had proposed a new paradigm for interstellar travel.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:2398-2485 observation first hand
770
Harold Puthoff's papers touched on warp drives, traversable wormholes, and time machines.
“His paper touched on such things as warp drives, traversable wormholes, time machines…”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:2637-2714 observation first hand
771
Harold Puthoff and his colleagues had a laboratory of approximately 560 square metres at his office in Austin, Texas.
“Back at Hal’s Austin office, Hal and his colleagues had 6,000 square feet of lab space.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:536-617 observation first hand
772
Luis Elizondo has personally handled angel hair material and describes it as similar to steel wool.
“I have handled some of this material. It’s a little like steel wool.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:6043-6133 observation first hand
773
The 1977 Council Bluffs Iowa UAP incident is considered a blue-chip legacy case, fitting the profile of the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter as a model for deeper study.
“It was a blue-chip legacy case. Like our *Nimitz* encounter, this civilian event fit the profile of a case that could serve as a model for deeper study.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:6559-6705 opinion first hand
774
Harold Puthoff and Eric Davis built a gravity device sensitive enough to detect the gravity field of an automobile sitting in an adjacent parking lot.
“he showed me a gravity device he and Eric Davis had built that was so sensitive it would detect the gravity field of an automobile sitting in an adjacent parking lot”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:681-843 observation first hand
775
Garry P. Nolan never briefed the Pentagon-based Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) team, because he worked directly for William "Will" Livingston.
“Though I knew of him and his work with us, he never briefed us at the Pentagon because he was working directly for Will.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:7129-7244 observation first hand
776
Harold Puthoff wrote an academic paper showing how humans could exploit the vacuum of space to provide power and thrust for aircraft.
“Hal skimmed through his academic paper in which he showed how humans could exploit the empty vacuum of space to provide power and thrust for aircraft”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:867-1008 observation first hand
777
Operation Plan Interloper was designed as a classic honey-pot operation, orchestrating a situation intended to be irresistible for the entity operating the UAP to investigate.
“It was a classic "honey pot." We would orchestrate a situation that was so irresistible and almost impossible for the enemy to ignore.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:10051-10178 administrative first hand
778
In 2015, Jay Stratton received a series of emails from senior leaders at Fleet Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia detailing UAP incursions involving the aircraft carrier USS Roosevelt.
“In 2015, Jay received a string of emails from senior leaders with the Navy’s Fleet Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia. The emails provided details of UAP incursions involving the aircraft carrier USS Roosevelt.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:101-303 administrative third hand
779
The Operation Plan Interloper document included dates, times, locations, call signs, ship names of vessels that had UAP encounters, and radar data substantiating pilot and aircrew eyewitness testimony.
“Jay inserted more data in the proposal to bolster our argument. Dates, times, locations, call signs, and the ship names of all vessels that had UAP encounters. Jay also included radar data that substantiated the eyewitness testimonies of flustered pilots and aircrew.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:10224-10483 administrative first hand
780
Michael Higgins was the Defense Intelligence Agency's director of operations before moving to a new assignment.
“Unfortunately, by this time my friend Michael Higgins was no longer DIA’s director of operations and was on to his new assignment.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:10571-10690 administrative first hand
781
Garry Reid replaced Michael Higgins and was brought to the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)) from the special operations community; he is not related to Senator Harry Reid.
“His replacement was a man whom I did not trust named Garry Reid (no relation to our congressional benefactor, Senator Harry Reid). He had been brought to the OUSD(I) from the special operations community.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:10702-10923 administrative first hand
782
Most of the UAP observed near the USS Roosevelt during the 2014-2015 incursions were small.
“Most of these UAP were small.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:1072-1095 observation first hand
783
Personnel initially assumed the UAP near the USS Roosevelt could be drones or probes operated by a classified US military programme, but this possibility was investigated and ruled out.
“Because of their location and their boldness, our personnel assumed at first that they were drones or probes operated by some classified US military program... We had processes to rule out that option, and it was ruled out quickly.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:1102-1390 observation first hand
784
Employees filed charges with the DoD Inspector General about Garry Reid's conduct at the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence.
“Employees would soon file charges with the DoD inspector general about some of his behavior.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:11288-11371 administrative first hand
785
The DoD Office of Inspector General investigated Garry Reid on allegations including maintaining a sexual relationship with a subordinate employee, sexual harassment, and fostering a hostile work environment.
“The DoD’s Inspector General’s Office went on to investigate Reid on numerous allegations, including maintaining a sexual relationship with a subordinate employee, sexual harassment, and fostering a hostile work environment.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:11381-11592 administrative second hand
786
The DoD Office of Inspector General concluded that Garry Reid violated Joint Ethics Regulations by creating the appearance of an inappropriate relationship or preferential treatment with a female subordinate, and by mishandling Controlled Unclassified Information.
“The IG’s Office would eventually conclude that Reid had violated Joint Ethics Regulations by creating an appearance of an inappropriate relationship or preferential treatment with a female subordinate and mishandling of Controlled Unclassified Information.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:11606-11850 administrative second hand
787
Jay Stratton and Lue Elizondo submitted Operation Plan Interloper through an Alternative Compensatory Control Measure (ACCM) process directly to the Joint Chiefs of Staff, bypassing the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)).
“To move Interloper along, Jay and I circumvented the usual channels in favor of an ACCM process. That means the operation plan would be submitted to the Joint Chiefs of Staff. We were hoping to get around the OUSD(I) because the entire organization had become infested with compromised individuals.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:12039-12325 administrative first hand
788
The National Security Agency and Central Intelligence Agency offered to provide assets to support Operation Plan Interloper, and weekly meetings were held in Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) spaces, some at the Pentagon and others at other agencies.
“The NSA and CIA offered to provide assets as well, and we launched weekly meetings in the SCIF spaces we had available. Some of these meetings occurred at the Pentagon, while others were held at other agencies.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:13729-13930 administrative first hand
789
Operation Plan Interloper's plan was to position a nuclear-powered carrier strike group in the Atlantic as bait, with partner intelligence agencies allocating hidden collection assets to gather data if UAP appeared to investigate.
“The plan for Interloper was to use one of our nuclear-powered carrier strike groups as bait. We would pick a designated spot in the Atlantic and drop in a huge nuclear footprint... Our partner agencies would allocate hidden collection assets in the vicinity. When the UAP showed up to investigate our maneuvers, the trap would spring shut.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:14037-14457 administrative first hand
790
The US military and its aerospace industry partners avoid testing new equipment near pilots who have not been briefed on the new technology, and such testing is never conducted unannounced.
“The military and its aerospace partners tend to avoid testing new equipment near pilots who haven’t been briefed on new technology... it is never done unannounced.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:1446-1622 opinion first hand
791
Two videos of UAP were received from Fleet Forces Command, both filmed by pilots in the USS Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group using the same type of Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infrared Radar (ATFLIR) pod that Dave Fravor's squadron had used to capture the 2004 Tic Tac video.
“One morning during this whole process, our email inbox rewarded us with two videos we received in a bath of data from Fleet Forces Command. Both videos had been taken from the air by pilots in the Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group, using the same sort of ATFLIR pod that Commander Fravor’s squadron had used to capture the 2004 Tic Tac video.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:14973-15308 administrative first hand
792
The object filmed in the video that would later become known as the GoFast video resembled a Tic Tac shape, being rounded, smooth, and egg-shaped, but was no more than about 5.5 metres long, compared to the more than 12-metre length of the object in the 2004 Tic Tac video.
“The object in one of the videos also resembled a Tic Tac, at least in the sense that it was rounded, smooth, and egg-shaped. But where the 2004 Tic Tac was more than 40 feet long, this object—in the video that would later become famously known as GoFast—was no more than about 18 feet long, tops.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:15316-15634 measurement first hand
793
The object in the GoFast video was smaller than a Piper Cub aircraft.
“That’s smaller than a Piper Cub, an aircraft built for bush pilots and recreational fliers.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:15640-15724 measurement first hand
794
A Piper Cub weighs about 347 kilograms and flies no faster than approximately 145 kilometres per hour.
“A Cub is lightweight, about 765 pounds, and flies no faster than 90 miles per hour.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:15732-15810 measurement first hand
795
In the GoFast video, the object showed no plume of exhaust, no wings, and no propellers.
“The object moves from the top right to the lower left of the screen. There’s no plume of exhaust, no wings, no propellers.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:16209-16320 observation first hand
796
At the time the GoFast video was recorded, no one in the Department of Defense or the intelligence community could explain the object.
“At the time, no one in DoD or the IC could explain it.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:16390-16441 administrative first hand
797
After several years of analysis, some later researchers claimed that the object in the GoFast video was travelling much slower than previously thought, attributing the apparent speed to a parallax effect, though Lue Elizondo disagrees with this assessment because the pilots who witnessed the object marvelled at its speed.
“After several years of analysis, however, later researchers would claim that the object was going much slower than previously thought. This effect is called a parallax. I still don’t agree with this assessment, since the pilots who witnessed the object flying marveled at its speed.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:16445-16721 opinion first hand
798
The GIMBAL video became world-famous years after being filmed, and is noted for the filmed object's unusual flight behaviour.
“The second film would become world-famous years later by the name GIMBAL. It was slightly more intriguing because of the object’s unusual flight behavior.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:16729-16874 administrative first hand
799
When the GIMBAL video was shot, the pilots had just encountered a fleet of five UAP in their airspace and locked their camera onto one of the objects, which flew from right to left of the screen.
“When the film was shot, the pilots had just encountered a fleet of five UAP in their airspace. They managed to lock the camera on just one of these objects and watched as it flew from right to left of the screen.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:16884-17089 observation second hand
800
In the GIMBAL video, the object appears elongated and white, which in the infrared camera mode indicates the object was cold, with no heat emanating from it.
“In the video, the object looks elongated and white. But that color is somewhat misleading. Since the camera is in infrared mode, white merely indicates that the object is 'cold'—no heat emanating from the aircraft at all.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:17098-17315 observation first hand
801
When the pilots recording the GIMBAL video switched camera modes, the object appeared with a lenticular shape with a bulge on its top and bottom, and was rendered black, indicating it was cold with no heat signature.
“Staring them in the face is what looks like a stereotypical flying saucer out of some 1950s-era movie. The object is lenticular, with a bulge on its top and bottom. The object is now black, which in this camera mode also indicates that the object is 'cold'—no heat signature.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:17933-18198 observation first hand
802
In the GIMBAL video, the object slowed, parked itself in the air, and shifted so that the bulge on top swung from left to right and the bulge on the bottom faced into the wind, at one point flying perpendicular to the wind without bending or tilting.
“Then the UAP slows, parks itself in the air, and begins to shift. The bulge on top swings from left to right, and now the bulge on its bottom faces the wind. At one point the object flies perpendicular to the oncoming wind, yet it doesn’t bend or tilt from the resistance.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:18326-18587 observation first hand
803
At 120 knots, the wind speed clocked by the pilots recording the GIMBAL video is equivalent to approximately 220 kilometres per hour.
“At 120 knots, the wind speed the pilots clocked is equivalent to 138-mile-per-hour winds.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:18866-18949 measurement first hand
804
Weather forecasters recommend securing loose patio furniture when local wind gusts reach approximately 80 to 97 kilometres per hour.
“Weather forecasters warn you to tie up loose furniture on your patio when local wind gusts approach 50–60 miles per hour.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:18957-19073 observation
805
The object in the GIMBAL video was heatless, wingless, propeller-less, produced no exhaust, parked itself at approximately 6,100 metres in altitude, and calmly flipped over in winds equivalent to a Category 4 hurricane without fluttering or rattling.
“Yet this object—which is heatless, wingless, and propeller-less, and spews no exhaust—parks itself at 20,000 feet in the sky and calmly flips itself over in winds that would be classified as a Category 4 hurricane on earth. It doesn’t even flutter or rattle like a kite.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:19150-19415 observation first hand
806
Lue Elizondo considers the flight behaviour observed in the GIMBAL video comparable to the earlier UAP incident in which an object split the formation of fighter aircraft off the coast of Virginia, and states that balloons are incapable of such manoeuvres.
“This again reminded me of the previous investigation of "balloons" splitting the formation of fighter aircraft off the coast of Virginia. Balloons can’t do that.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:19421-19577 opinion first hand
807
Luis Elizondo and his colleagues planned to use both the GoFast video and the GIMBAL video to reinforce Operation Plan Interloper.
“hesitation we knew we would use both videos to reinforce OPLAN Interloper.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:19980-20043 observation first hand
808
An unnamed aerospace firm denied Luis Elizondo and his team access to materials of nonhuman origin that the firm possessed.
“we were still thinking about that aerospace firm that denied us access to the materials of nonhuman origin that they had”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:20137-20254 testimony first hand
809
Luis Elizondo considered seeking a letter from the Secretary of Defense to compel the aerospace firm to grant access to the nonhuman-origin materials.
“I was beginning to wonder if we could go directly to the secretary of defense... If we could get a letter from the SECDEF, that should trump anyone in the Air Force from trying to stymie our efforts.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:20259-20514 opinion first hand
810
Luis Elizondo directed the Guantanamo Bay portfolio and, through that role, had routine access to the Secretary of Defense's senior staff but not to the secretary himself or his direct minders.
“Given my work directing the Guantanamo Bay portfolio, I had routine access to the secretary's senior staff but not the secretary himself or his direct minders.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:20566-20717 administrative first hand
811
Luis Elizondo shared the Predator unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) video with Neill Tipton, who served as a liaison for the United States Army Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) Task Force.
“A while back I had shared the Predator video with Neill Tipton, who was also a liaison for the folks that worked the Army Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) Task Force.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:20930-21110 testimony first hand
812
Neill Tipton was known as a knowledgeable technical expert on Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) systems.
“Neill was a "techie" and knew the world of ISR probably better than anyone.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:21117-21185 opinion first hand
813
The 2015 USS Roosevelt UAP incursions shared characteristics with the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter, as both the USS Nimitz and the USS Roosevelt were nuclear-powered vessels involved in incidents near water.
“The situation had all the hallmarks of the Nimitz/Princeton case back in 2004. Like the Nimitz, the Roosevelt was a nuclear-powered vessel. Two of the boxes were ticked: water and nukes.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:2114-2300 opinion first hand
814
Neill Tipton, despite reviewing the video evidence, said he had no idea what the object in the Predator video could be.
“Though fascinated by the evidence before him, Neill had no clue what it could be.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:21278-21356 testimony second hand
815
Luis Elizondo trusted Neill Tipton's assessment because it matched what aviation experts working with Elizondo's team had told him.
“I believed him because he was echoing what our aviation experts had told us. I trusted Neill and he'd shown himself to be a good leader and a sharp thinker.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:21361-21509 opinion first hand
816
A few months after sharing the Predator video with Neill Tipton, Luis Elizondo attended a meeting with high-level United States Navy officials, Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) representatives, and a National Security Agency (NSA) representative where the GoFast and GIMBAL videos were shown.
“A few months later I was sitting in a room with high-level Navy officials, CIA reps, and someone from the NSA... we rolled the tapes.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:21631-21748 testimony first hand
817
The object in the GIMBAL video never lost altitude as it turned 90 degrees.
“What made GIMBAL so perplexing was the fact the object never lost altitude as it turned 90 degrees.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:21909-22000 observation first hand
818
The object in the GIMBAL video appeared to hover at an altitude of approximately 6,100 metres.
“the object seemed to hover at an altitude of 20,000 feet and linger there, eerily.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:22222-22297 measurement first hand
819
Sceptics later suggested the object in the GIMBAL video was a balloon, but Luis Elizondo considers this explanation incorrect.
“Skeptics would later suggest that the object was a balloon, but this was certainly not the case.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:22305-22396 opinion first hand
820
One meeting attendee joked that the object in the GIMBAL video seemed to be mocking the observers, as if saying 'Hey guys, watch this!'
“One of our meeting attendees made an uncomfortable joke that this thing seemed to be showing us what it could do, mocking us, as if to say, "Hey guys, watch this!"”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:22403-22560 observation first hand
821
No one in the meeting where the GIMBAL video was shown believed the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) depicted was made by humans.
“To be clear, no one in that room thought this UAP was made by humans.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:22788-22850 opinion first hand
822
The behaviour of the object in the GIMBAL video unnerved and mystified the team of aviation and optical experts present at the meeting.
“This unnerved, mystified, and concerned our team of aviation and optical experts.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:22859-22932 observation first hand
823
The Apollo Lunar Module did not need wings because it operated in the near-vacuum of space with zero wind resistance.
“It didn't have to be because it operated in the near-vacuum of space, where it encountered zero wind resistance. As a result, it didn't need wings.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:23460-23601 observation first hand
824
According to witnesses, the UAP activity near the USS Roosevelt was a protracted event lasting months rather than days.
“According to witnesses, this was a protracted event, lasting not days, but months.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:2384-2460 testimony second hand
825
Luis Elizondo speculated that a slight aura visible around the object in the GIMBAL video might indicate a protective bubble created by the object's propulsion system operating in a vacuum-like environment.
“Was that the reason a slight aura can be seen around the GIMBAL object? Was this a protective bubble? Was this an artifact of the propulsion unit?”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:24215-24356 opinion first hand
826
A representative from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) at the meeting proposed that the object in the GIMBAL video could be a hybrid balloon with an inducted fan at its centre.
“"The only way I see this being even remotely possible is if you had a... hybrid balloon with some sort of inducted fan at its center," he said, not quite believing his own words.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:24494-24663 opinion second hand
827
A Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) representative at the meeting suggested the object in the GIMBAL video might be a Mylar football with its own navigation and propulsion.
“"Perhaps it is some sort of Mylar football that has its own navigation and propulsion."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:24671-24745 opinion second hand
828
Luis Elizondo asked the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) representative about fuel and loiter capability for the object in the GIMBAL video, noting it was located far out in the middle of the ocean.
“"What about fuel and loiter capability? This thing is way out in the middle of nowhere," I said.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:24974-25064 testimony first hand
829
A Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) representative suggested the object in the GIMBAL video might be powered by a tether or beamed energy from a nearby floating platform.
“"Um... perhaps they are using some sort of tether or beamed energy to give it power, you know? Like a floating platform nearby."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:25108-25225 opinion second hand
830
The object depicted in the GIMBAL video was recorded as very hot while the surrounding air was very cold.
“The object itself was indicated as being very hot; however, the air surrounding it was very cold.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:25284-25376 measurement first hand
831
Pilots and radar operators aboard the USS Roosevelt reported that the observed UAP displayed the same abilities that had astonished the USS Nimitz and USS Princeton crews a decade earlier in 2004.
“The crew reported the UAP displayed the same abilities that dazzled the Nimitz and Princeton crews a decade earlier.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:2553-2665 testimony second hand
832
Luis Elizondo considers the object in the GIMBAL video to have exhibited behaviour consistent with an antigravity device based on the observables shown.
“On the observables scale, it was clearly an antigravity device.”
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833
The pilots who observed the object shown in the GIMBAL video corroborated everything the video showed with their own eyewitness testimony.
“Everything the video showed, the pilots backed up with eyewitness testimony.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:25618-25684 testimony second hand
834
According to the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the aura visible around the object in the GIMBAL video was not an artefact of the camera or a lens flare.
“According to the CIA, it was not. It was not an artifact of the camera nor a lens flare.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:25939-26021 observation second hand
835
Some UAP near the USS Roosevelt flew alone, while others flew in synchronised formation.
“Some flew alone, while others flew in a synchronized formation.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:2674-2727 observation second hand
836
The UAP observed near the USS Roosevelt would change elevation from approximately 9,100 metres down to sea level in an instant.
“The objects would change elevation from 30,000 feet down to sea level in the blink of an eye.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:2886-2975 observation second hand
837
The UAP observed near the USS Roosevelt would stop in midair and then shoot away in a different direction.
“They would stop in midair, then shoot away in a different direction.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:2980-3038 observation second hand
838
Some of the UAP observed near the USS Roosevelt were the size of a beach ball, while others were much larger.
“Some were small, the size of a beach ball, while others were much larger.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:3049-3115 observation second hand
839
Reports described luminous underwater craft that glowed green while following the USS Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group's ships.
“We also received reports of luminous underwater craft that illuminated in an eerie green glow while following our ships.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:3123-3237 testimony second hand
840
During an exercise requiring two F/A-18 Hornets to fly within approximately 30 metres of each other, a UAP flew between the aircraft's wings and disappeared, splitting their formation.
“In one instance two Hornets embarked on an exercise that required them to fly within one hundred feet of each other... Without warning, an object flew right toward the Hornets, zipped right between their wings, and disappeared. As the pilot told me, the UAP "split their formation."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:3335-3670 testimony second hand
841
The UAP that flew between the two F/A-18 Hornets came close enough that both pilots clearly saw it was a transparent orb or sphere containing a cube, with the cube's four points touching the inner circumference of the sphere.
“The object drew close enough to the cockpits that both pilots saw it clearly. It was a transparent orb or sphere; inside it was a cube. The four points of the cube touched the inner circumference of the sphere.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:3773-3976 observation second hand
842
The aircraft carrier USS Roosevelt embarked on a ten-month deployment to the Persian Gulf.
“The carrier had already embarked on a ten-month deployment to the Persian Gulf.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:381-455 administrative first hand
843
After the near-collision with the UAP, some USS Roosevelt pilots were shaken and a few were terrified, and other pilots became increasingly angry as news of the encounter spread.
“When the pilots returned to the Roosevelt, some were shaken and concerned, and a few were terrified. As news of the encounter spread, the other pilots became increasingly angry.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:4027-4200 observation second hand
844
The UAP encountered by USS Roosevelt aircrew had the ability to fly for more than twelve hours at a time without refuelling, recharging, or being recalled, and no obvious staging area for launching or recovering drones was found.
“The UAP they’d been seeing recently had the ability to fly for more than twelve hours at a time without needing to refuel, recharge, or be recalled. Furthermore, there wasn’t any obvious staging area to launch or recover drones.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:4462-4683 observation first hand
845
During pre-deployment workups in late 2014, in waters off Virginia and down to Florida, USS Roosevelt aircrew had twenty-two separate encounters with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“It turns out that during pre-deployment workups in late 2014, in the waters off Virginia and all the way down to Florida, the aircrew had twenty-two separate encounters with UAP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:461-635 observation second hand
846
Investigators ruled out that the UAP near the USS Roosevelt were inflatable radar reflectors, since balloons do not travel against a head wind or fly in coordinated formation.
“Someone speculated that it could have been an inflatable radar reflector... but balloons don’t travel against a head wind and normally don’t fly in a coordinated formation. This was not an inflatable radar reflector.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:4692-4930 opinion first hand
847
Numerous similar UAP near-collision safety reports were filed by the US Navy across various operating areas worldwide during this period, using strikingly similar language.
“The squadron filed safety reports, hoping to spark an investigation. During this period, numerous similar reports were filed through the Navy, in various operating areas worldwide, complaining of similar near disasters with UAP. The language in those reports is strikingly similar.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:4941-5214 administrative first hand
848
An anonymous high-ranking official, in a Navy safety report concerning a UAP near-collision, wrote that the incident was very dangerous and could have caused a midair collision and threatened the lives of aviators.
“At some point in the document, you would find a high-ranking official assert, "This is very dangerous. This could have caused a midair collision and threatened the lives of our aviators."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:5223-5400 hearsay second hand
849
The senior intelligence officer at Fleet Forces Command reached out to Jay Stratton, who worked in naval intelligence on the Navy staff in the Pentagon, to initiate a larger investigation into the USS Roosevelt UAP incidents.
“This ultimately led the senior intelligence officer at Fleet Forces Command to reach out to Jay, who, in his role with naval intelligence on the Navy staff in the Pentagon, would be the appropriate front door for initiating a larger investigation, which Jay did with the full support of his leadership.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:5893-6184 administrative first hand
850
The F/A-18 Hornets aboard the USS Roosevelt had recently undergone radar system upgrades, with some of the previous systems dating to the 1980s.
“The Hornets aboard the carrier had recently undergone upgrades to improve radar systems that dated, in some cases, to the 1980s.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:640-762 observation second hand
851
The UAP encountered near the USS Roosevelt did not bear any national markings such as a Russian star or a North Korean tail number, unlike aircraft of known foreign powers.
“If these UAP had, say, a Russian star on the wing, or a North Korean tail number, then at least we would know who we are dealing with. But these UAP didn’t have wings or a tail at all”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:7596-7776 observation first hand
852
Pilots investigated and validated the radar contacts near the USS Roosevelt using their eyes and other sensors, ruling out the possibility that the contacts were merely radar artefacts.
“Thinking these may only be artifacts or some other issue with the new highly sensitive radars, the pilots investigated and validated with their eyes and other sensors.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:769-928 observation second hand
853
The year before the USS Roosevelt UAP incursions, in 2014, an Army Patriot missile battery on the Atlantic coast tracked multiple unidentified objects on radar reaching speeds of approximately 9,700 kilometres per hour.
“The Army had their incidents too. The year before, an Army Patriot missile battery tracked multiple bogies on their radar that seemed to achieve speeds of 6,000 miles per hour.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:8943-9114 measurement second hand
854
During his time working Army investigations, Lue Elizondo was aware of one report of the 2014 Patriot missile battery incident that was later opened by the Army under the oversight of the then-director of counterintelligence.
“During my time working Army investigations, I was aware of one such report that was later opened by the Army under the watchful eye of the then director of counterintelligence.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:9120-9276 administrative first hand
855
According to Lue Elizondo, the United States Air Force did not investigate UAP reports because official Air Force policy held that UAP do not exist.
“As for the Air Force, they were missing in action as usual. According to the Air Force, UAP don’t exist, so why investigate them?”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:9335-9459 opinion first hand
856
Numerous UAP were observed operating in exclusive-use airspace off Virginia and Florida where no aircraft besides US military aircraft are authorised to fly.
“There were scores of UAP operating in exclusive-use airspace, where no aircraft are authorized to fly besides US military aircraft.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:937-1061 observation second hand
857
Based on the twenty-two UAP incidents involving the USS Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group, with eyewitness and video evidence, Jay Stratton created an operation plan (OPLAN) codenamed Operation Plan Interloper.
“Based on these twenty-two UAP incidents involving the Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group, with eyewitnesses and video evidence, we knew we needed a robust plan of action. Jay spent weeks creating an operation plan (OPLAN), code-named "Interloper."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:9805-10038 administrative first hand
858
Harold Puthoff visited the Pentagon and met Lue Elizondo's team in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF).
“I’d just returned from an international work trip when I learned that our friend Hal was in town and visiting the Pentagon. He had news to share and was waiting for us in a SCIF.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:102-275 observation first hand
859
Harold Puthoff possessed a piece of material allegedly recovered from the 1947 Roswell Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) crash.
“Hal had in his possession material allegedly recovered from the Roswell crash.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:18638-18710 observation first hand
860
The material allegedly recovered from the 1947 Roswell Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) crash had multiple microscopic layers of interlacing bismuth and magnesium and a beveled edge.
“It was an intricate and fragile piece revealing multiple microscopic layers of interlacing bismuth and magnesium. It also seemed to have a beveled edge.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:18717-18864 observation first hand
861
Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) have often been encountered near bodies of water and, in some cases, appeared to be interacting with it.
“we already had sufficient data to imply that UAP were often encountered near bodies of water and, in some cases, appeared to be interacting with it”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:20636-20781 observation first hand
862
Some data suggested that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) were taking water on board.
“some data even suggested that UAP were taking water on board”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:20830-20885 observation first hand
863
Lue Elizondo recalled the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter as involving a Tic Tac-shaped object darting around a roiling, bubbling circle of water in the Pacific Ocean.
“I thought of that Tic Tac darting around a roiling, bubbling circle of the Pacific Ocean in 2004”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:22008-22100 observation first hand
864
Lue Elizondo and Harold Puthoff discussed propulsion theories for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) for several hours.
“We had been in the SCIF now for several hours. Hal had explained how the primary observables were possible, even the sizes and shapes of the various craft seen over the years, based upon propulsion theories.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:24299-24497 observation first hand
865
During the SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) discussion, the group identified a possible explanation for elevated Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) activity around nuclear sites and technologies.
“a list of commonalities of UAP encounters was discussed... we realized what this also suggested: the explanation for why there has been so much UAP activity around our nuclear sites and technologies”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:24535-24757 opinion first hand
866
Lue Elizondo believes that increased Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) activity has correlated with humanity's advancement in harnessing energy.
“And the uptick in UAP activity has increased in line with our advancement of harnessing energy”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:24905-24993 opinion first hand
867
Lue Elizondo and the group in the SCIF hypothesised that humanity is on a path toward exploiting energy levels that could enable warping space-time, and that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) have been observing and conducting Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) on human progress out of concern.
“We realized we are on the path to exploiting the energy levels needed to possibly warp space-time ourselves, and UAP have been observing (essentially conducting ISR) and been concerned with our progress”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:25002-25196 opinion first hand
868
Lue Elizondo believes that if the technology behind Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) propulsion is developed by a nation-state with bad intentions, it would pose an existential threat to the United States and the planet.
“Regardless of their motivation, if this tech is cracked by another nation-state with bad intentions it will be an existential threat to our nation and the planet as a whole”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:29712-29879 opinion first hand
869
Harold Puthoff wrote a lengthy mathematical equation spanning two whiteboards during a meeting with Lue Elizondo's team.
“I found other team members with eyes on Hal, who stood at a whiteboard, writing one of the longest mathematical equations I had ever seen. The equation already took up two full whiteboards and he wasn’t done.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:298-501 observation first hand
870
Some of the United States' past national leaders were briefed on the hypothesis that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) activity is linked to human energy advancement and nuclear sites, which is why the matter is being taken more seriously.
“Some of our nation’s past leaders were briefed on all this, and that is why this matter is now being taken more seriously than ever before”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:29979-30111 administrative first hand
871
Lue Elizondo believes the public has a right to know about this UAP-related national security matter regardless of whether the United States government discloses it.
“Whether or not our government discloses this, I believe the public has a right to know”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:30120-30202 opinion first hand
872
Lue Elizondo recalled that a bubble surrounding an aircraft, as described by Harold Puthoff's warp theory, was consistent with what was seen in the GIMBAL video.
“I remembered that a bubble around an aircraft was exactly what we’d seen in the GIMBAL video… and others.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:6282-6382 observation first hand
873
Luis Elizondo's wife is named Jenn.
“Not to disturb Jenn’s rest, I crept silently out of the bedroom.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:10337-10393 administrative first hand
874
Luis Elizondo and his wife Jennifer owned a German shepherd named Paris.
“Our new German shepherd, Paris, yawned, eyed me once, then nestled herself back on the covers at the foot of the bed.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:10402-10515 administrative first hand
875
Luis Elizondo's first daughter is named Taylor and was preparing to leave for college.
“Our first daughter, Taylor, would leave for college soon.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:11131-11183 administrative first hand
876
Luis Elizondo and his family owned a black cat named Boo.
“Our black cat, Boo, slinked through the living room, pausing once to study me.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:11551-11626 administrative first hand
877
Luis Elizondo conducted a deep dive into government historical records including Project Blue Book and its predecessors, Project Sign and Project Grudge.
“I had done a deep dive into Project Blue Book and its predecessors, Projects Sign and Grudge.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:13747-13833 administrative first hand
878
Luis Elizondo read testimony of airmen who witnessed unknown entities tampering with United States intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs).
“I read the testimony of airmen who witnessed the tampering of our ICBMs by unknown entities.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:13841-13924 administrative first hand
879
A modern aerospace firm indicated a desire to share previously withheld material about UAP technology after decades of keeping it hidden.
“A modern aerospace firm indicated their desire... These companies have spent decades keeping this material hidden and now for some reason, one of them wanted to share it with us.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:13934-14150 testimony first hand
880
Garry P. Nolan and Jacques Vallée analysed the elemental and isotopic composition of the molten metal aggregate recovered from the 1977 Council Bluffs Iowa UAP incident.
“Nolan and Vallée had explored the composition of the 1977 Iowa molten metal aggregate and had uncovered another mystery for us to solve.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:14224-14354 testimony second hand
881
Harold Puthoff explained to Luis Elizondo that antennae must normally be at least half the size of the wave form to work, but the 1977 Council Bluffs Iowa UAP incident material transmitted frequencies at a larger amplitude than it should have been able to given its size.
“As Hal explained it to me, normally antennae must be at least half the size of the wave form to work. This material, however, seemed to be able to transmit frequencies at a much larger amplitude than it should have been able to.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:15169-15394 testimony second hand
882
Harold Puthoff considered that the 1977 Council Bluffs Iowa UAP incident material could transmit a vast amount of data.
“Hal speculated that you could transmit a vast amount of data across such material.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:15398-15471 opinion second hand
883
Luis Elizondo's Operation Plan Interloper document was pending review by the Joint Staff for several months without response.
“Our OPLAN Interloper was pending review by the Joint Staff. We hadn’t heard back about it in months and needed to start nudging the right people.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:18283-18421 administrative first hand
884
Operation Plan Interloper included an appendix containing the last three months of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) reporting.
“an appendix that included the last three months’ worth of UAP reporting”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:18544-18606 administrative first hand
885
James Mattis was referred to within the Pentagon as SECDEF, the Secretary of Defense.
“We needed to get to the Secretary of Defense. The man everyone in the Pentagon referred to as SECDEF.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:18676-18770 administrative first hand
886
Luis Elizondo considers James Mattis one of only five people on the planet he would follow into war.
“There are only five people on the planet who I’d suit up for and follow into war today.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:18884-18965 opinion first hand
887
James Mattis was nicknamed "Mad Dog" and, by his friends, "Chaos".
“One of those individuals is the new secretary of defense, James "Mad Dog" Mattis, or, as his friends called him, "Chaos."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:18972-19086 administrative first hand
888
Luis Elizondo first met James Mattis in 2001 in Kandahar, Afghanistan.
“I’d first met him in 2001 in Kandahar, Afghanistan.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:19219-19258 administrative first hand
889
Luis Elizondo introduced James Mattis to John Robert, who became one of Mattis's key aides on the ground.
“Shortly after, I would introduce Mattis to my friend John Robert, who would become one of Mattis’s go-to guys on the ground.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:19271-19388 administrative first hand
890
Luis Elizondo served as the first-ever counterintelligence coordinating authority in Afghanistan.
“Even before the position had been created, I served as the first-ever counterintelligence coordinating authority in Afghanistan.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:19397-19513 administrative first hand
891
Luis Elizondo became one of James Mattis's off-the-books intelligence advisors.
“I became one of Mattis’s off-the-books intelligence advisors.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:19526-19578 administrative first hand
892
Luis Elizondo, alongside John Robert, worked to ensure James Mattis had the right information to make decisions during his role in Afghanistan.
“My job, with the help of John, was to make sure he had the right information to make the right decision.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:19643-19738 administrative first hand
893
James Mattis commanded troops during a firefight in which his convoy of amphibious Light Armored Vehicles (LAV) responded to rescue pinned-down soldiers.
“Another time, some of his men were pinned down hard in a firefight outside the perimeter of the airfield. With ammunition low, they radioed for support, but no one nearby could assist. By chance, a small convoy of amphibious Light Armored Vehicles (LAV) happened to be nearby. Mattis led the convoy.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:20467-20759 testimony first hand
894
The Light Armored Vehicle (LAV) convoy led by James Mattis was equipped with a 25 mm Bushmaster gun.
“Equipped with the 25 mm Bushmaster gun, that *thump-thump-thump* meant the enemy was having a very bad day.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:20961-21064 testimony first hand
895
Lue Elizondo credits James Mattis with saving many lives, including his own.
“I give him credit for saving many lives, including mine.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:21486-21537 opinion first hand
896
James Mattis accepted the position of Secretary of Defense in the incoming Trump administration.
“I was working in the Pentagon building with Mad Dog himself, who had accepted the position of secretary of defense in the incoming Trump administration.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:21603-21740 administrative first hand
897
Lue Elizondo sought James Mattis's clarity, as Secretary of Defense, on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) incursions and range safety issues.
“I wanted SECDEF’s clarity going forward on incursions and range safety issues.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:21957-22028 testimony first hand
898
Lue Elizondo wanted a letter from James Mattis to secure access to the Legacy Program's UAP materials.
“I wanted a letter to secure access to the Legacy Program’s UAP materials.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:22036-22099 testimony first hand
899
Luis Elizondo drove home on Highway 50 toward Kent Island, Maryland after a stressful day working in Washington DC.
“The traffic eased a bit once on Highway 50 heading toward Kent Island, Maryland.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:2244-2315 observation first hand
900
Lue Elizondo believed that going around the chain of command by personally calling James Mattis for a meeting would have been insubordinate given James Mattis's focus on strengthening chain-of-command authority during the Trump administration.
“Under no circumstances could I buck the chain of command and use my past relationship with the general to personally schedule a briefing with him. To do so would be an insubordinate act, an indictment of his chain of command, and an insult to the institution and the general himself. It’s important to understand that Mattis was very focused on strengthening the authority and recognition of the chain of command during the Trump administration”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:22515-22945 opinion first hand
901
Lue Elizondo was concerned about a recent increase of UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) activity beginning with incursions involving USS Roosevelt and expanding to other sensitive military locations.
“I was specifically concerned about the recent increase of UAP activity, beginning with the *Roosevelt* incidents and now expanding to other very sensitive military locations.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:23373-23537 testimony first hand
902
Harold Puthoff made connections that included introducing Jim Semivan, a senior CIA member, to Lue Elizondo's effort.
“During this time, Hal had made a few connections of his own. One contact was a highly intelligent man named Jim Semivan, a senior member of the CIA who had enjoyed a long, successful career.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:24247-24430 administrative first hand
903
Jim Semivan was born and raised in Ohio.
“Born and raised in Ohio and having attended Ohio State University, Jim joined the CIA in 1982”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:24471-24560 administrative first hand
904
Jim Semivan attended Ohio State University.
“Born and raised in Ohio and having attended Ohio State University, Jim joined the CIA in 1982”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:24471-24560 administrative first hand
905
Jim Semivan joined the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in 1982.
“Jim joined the CIA in 1982 and retired in 2007 after a twenty-five-year career.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:24538-24610 administrative first hand
906
Jim Semivan retired from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in 2007 after a twenty-five-year career.
“Jim joined the CIA in 1982 and retired in 2007 after a twenty-five-year career.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:24538-24610 administrative first hand
907
At the time of his retirement, Jim Semivan was a member of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)'s Senior Intelligence Service.
“At the time of his retirement, he was a member of the CIA’s Senior Intelligence Service.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:24618-24698 administrative first hand
908
Jim Semivan served multiple overseas and domestic tours and held senior management positions at Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) headquarters.
“He served multiple overseas and domestic tours along with having senior management positions in CIA headquarters.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:24707-24807 administrative first hand
909
Jim Semivan received the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)'s Career Intelligence Medal.
“He’s also the recipient of the Agency’s Career Intelligence Medal, along with numerous Exceptional Performance Awards and Meritorious Unit Citations.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:24821-24960 administrative first hand
910
Jim Semivan received numerous Exceptional Performance Awards and Meritorious Unit Citations from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
“He’s also the recipient of the Agency’s Career Intelligence Medal, along with numerous Exceptional Performance Awards and Meritorious Unit Citations.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:24821-24960 administrative first hand
911
Jim Semivan operated around the world and recruited high-level operatives, including foreign ambassadors and attaches, during his Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) career.
“He operated around the world and recruited high-level operatives. His background was the complete opposite of mine. I recruited scrappy street fighters, insurgents, bomb makers. Jim recruited foreign ambassadors and attachés.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:24971-25194 administrative first hand
912
Lue Elizondo recruited scrappy street fighters, insurgents, and bomb makers during his career.
“I recruited scrappy street fighters, insurgents, bomb makers.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:25087-25141 testimony first hand
913
After recently leaving the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Jim Semivan remained a CIA contractor and stayed connected to agency activities.
“Having recently left the agency, Jim remained a CIA contractor but was still “plugged in.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:25197-25283 administrative first hand
914
Harold Puthoff suggested to Jay Stratton that they meet with Jim Semivan at the Pentagon.
“Hal suggested to Jay that we meet with Jim at the Pentagon.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:25289-25339 administrative first hand
915
The meeting with Jim Semivan at the Pentagon was the first time Lue Elizondo's group brought in an outsider.
“This was the first time we brought someone into the fold from the outside. We were taking a big chance trusting Jim.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:25349-25461 testimony first hand
916
Jim Semivan later revealed to Lue Elizondo that he was working with a group consisting of former senior military and intelligence officials and a rock star.
“This time Jim mentioned that he was working with some colleagues who consisted of a hodgepodge of former senior military and intelligence officials and a rock star.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:26584-26770 testimony second hand
917
The 'rock star' Jim Semivan referred to in his group of collaborators was Tom DeLonge.
“Then he said the rock star was Tom DeLonge.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:26976-27011 testimony second hand
918
Jim Semivan and his team were working to move the UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) conversation out of government silos and into the hands of the American people.
“He and his team were working to wrestle the UAP conversation out of the silos of government and place it into the hands of the American people.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:27252-27388 testimony second hand
919
Jim Semivan had heard rumblings of a real UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) programme being run out of the Pentagon.
“He had heard rumblings of a real UAP program being run out of the Pentagon, so he was excited to have finally found us.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:27396-27512 hearsay second hand
920
Jim Semivan held a top secret security clearance.
“The only reason we are having this meeting is because Hal vouched for you and you have a top secret security clearance.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:27598-27707 administrative first hand
921
The meeting in which Lue Elizondo cautioned Jim Semivan about confidentiality was the first time the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was referenced to someone not on the team.
“This was the first time we ever referenced AATIP to someone not on the team.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:27964-28035 administrative first hand
922
Jim Semivan revealed to Lue Elizondo a personal UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) experience he had while he was still a senior CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) official.
“To alleviate my fears, Jim courageously revealed a very personal UAP experience he had had while he was still a senior CIA official.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:28099-28222 testimony second hand
923
Lue Elizondo considered the details of Jim Semivan's personal UAP experience very similar to other incidents he was aware of.
“the details of his incident were very similar to other incidents I was aware of.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:28468-28545 opinion first hand
924
Luis Elizondo speculates that a primitive electromagnetic pulse (EMP) device disrupted the propulsion of the two saucers that crashed at Roswell, New Mexico in 1947.
“Our primitive EMP device must have somehow disrupted their propulsion bubble, rendering them vulnerable.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:3289-3382 opinion first hand
925
During the 1964 Socorro, New Mexico UAP encounter, policeman Lonnie Zamora witnessed an egg-shaped craft take off from the desert floor with a loud roar and a blast of blue flame.
“When the egg-shaped craft took off from the desert floor, it had done so with a huge roar and a blast of blue flame.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:3694-3804 testimony second hand
926
Lonnie Zamora ran up a ravine to escape during the 1964 Socorro UAP encounter, fearing the craft might explode.
“It was so loud Zamora ran furiously up the ravine to escape, fearful that the aircraft might explode.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:3811-3904 testimony second hand
927
After reaching a certain height above the ground, the craft in the 1964 Socorro UAP encounter flew away silently.
“Then, as soon as the craft reached a certain height above the ground, it flew away *silently*.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:3913-4024 testimony second hand
928
Luis Elizondo considers that everything observed of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) behaviour resembles what the military terms initial preparation of the battlefield (IPB), an operation to assess an enemy's military capabilities before a potential invasion.
“To a guy grounded in the reality of war, everything we have seen thus far looks *a lot* like IPB.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:5976-6069 opinion first hand
929
During the Colares Incidents, the visiting entities intentionally enacted a hostile programme against humans.
“At Colares, they intentionally enacted a hostile program against humans.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:6356-6421 opinion first hand
930
Luis Elizondo drove an old Cadillac.
“That’s the way I felt that afternoon behind the wheel of my old Cadillac.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:653-717 administrative first hand
931
Luis Elizondo could see the Chesapeake Bay Bridge and channel markers in the bay from his commute home.
“The lights on the opposite shore of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge twinkled... I could see the channel markers in the bay.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:9225-9361 observation first hand
932
While William Cohen was a US Senator, Christopher Mellon was his closest advisor on Capitol Hill.
“While a senator, William Cohen’s closest advisor on Capitol Hill was Chris Mellon.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:1012-1087 administrative first hand
933
When William Cohen became Secretary of Defense, he brought Christopher Mellon with him to serve as one of his trusted principals on his new staff.
“Later, when Cohen became Secretary of Defense, he brought Chris with him to be one of his trusted principals on his new staff.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:1095-1215 administrative first hand
934
Christopher Mellon knew that the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was called AATIP, despite the programme operating in secrecy.
“He was pleased to have learned our program existed and even knew we were called AATIP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:1649-1729 observation first hand
935
Christopher Mellon asked Luis Elizondo how he could get read onto the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Then Chris asked, "How do I get read onto your program?"”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:1821-1868 observation first hand
936
Luis Elizondo told Christopher Mellon he would need to obtain a specified list of security clearances before he could be briefed on the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“"Okay, well, if you want a briefing, I’ll brief you, but you’re gonna need these specific tickets before we can brief you on anything. Those are the rules."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:2314-2462 observation first hand
937
Luis Elizondo believed it typically takes over a year to be nominated for some of the security clearances he required of Christopher Mellon.
“I knew that it takes over a year, sometimes, to even get *nominated* for some of these tickets.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:2909-2996 opinion first hand
938
Jim Semivan told Lue Elizondo that he was the one who had informed Christopher Mellon about the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) and where to find it.
“After Chris left, I heard from Jim Semivan, who revealed that he was the one who told Chris about AATIP and where to find us.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:3309-3431 testimony second hand
939
Jim Semivan vouched for Christopher Mellon to Lue Elizondo.
“He vouched for Chris”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:3435-3450 observation first hand
940
Christopher Mellon was a prominent member of the Mellon family, connected to Carnegie Mellon, Gulf Oil, and Mellon Bank.
“aside from Chris’s extremely high-level government resume, Chris also happened to be a prominent member of the powerful Mellon family. As in Carnegie Mellon, Gulf Oil, and Mellon Bank, to name a few.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:3489-3711 testimony second hand
941
Christopher Mellon was an independently wealthy heir to one of America's oldest financial and industrial dynasties.
“Chris was an independently wealthy heir to one of America’s oldest financial and industrial dynasties.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:3716-3808 opinion first hand
942
A week after their first meeting, lawyers for a 9/11 terrorist defense team filed a legal petition claiming Luis Elizondo was preventing their detainee clients from having a fair trial.
“A week later, lawyers from the 9/11 terrorist defense team had cooked up a legal petition painting me as the devil incarnate and claiming I was preventing their detainee clients from having a fair trial.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:4010-4207 observation first hand
943
Christopher Mellon obtained all the required security clearances within one week of being told what he needed.
“He got all the correct tickets in just one week? ... he sure as hell had them. Every single one of them.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:4526-4657 observation first hand
944
Lue Elizondo shared reports, photographs, data, and intelligence on legacy UAP efforts with Christopher Mellon for three hours in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF).
“For the next three hours, I proceeded to share with Chris our reports, photographs, pictures, and data, and intel we had gathered on legacy efforts.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:4997-5137 observation first hand
945
After being briefed, Christopher Mellon pledged his loyalty to the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) effort and became a trusted member of the team.
“he pledged his loyalty to our efforts, and he became a trusted member of the team.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:5626-5703 observation first hand
946
Lue Elizondo considers bringing Christopher Mellon into the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) team one of the best and most important decisions he ever made.
“Looking back, it’s one of the best and most important decisions I ever made.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:5709-5780 opinion first hand
947
Christopher Mellon visited Luis Elizondo's Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) unannounced and identified himself, expressing interest in helping the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“"Hi! I’m Chris Mellon," he said. ... Chris expressed interest in helping us.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:613-675 observation first hand
948
Chris Mellon (Christopher Mellon) previously served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence.
“CHRIS SERVED AS DEPUTY ASSISTANT SECRETARY OF DEFENSE FOR INTELLIGENCE.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:765-823 administrative first hand
949
As Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, Christopher Mellon was one step removed from the Secretary of Defense.
“In that position he was only one step removed from the secretary of defense.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:838-906 administrative first hand
950
Christopher Mellon oversaw all Department of Defense intelligence activities and Special Access Programs (SAPs).
“He oversaw all Department of Defense intelligence activities and Special Access Programs (SAPs).”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:915-1005 administrative first hand
951
Lue Elizondo considered the stigma associated with the term UFO an egregious lapse in national security.
“Bottom line, I considered this an egregious lapse in our national security.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:1094-1160 opinion first hand
952
Analysts were more willing to analyse video when told the origins of the aircraft were known, but would refuse or be dismissive if simply told it was a UFO.
“If we told people who were analyzing video that we knew the origins of the “aircraft,” they were happy to analyze it. But if we simply said a UFO, we would be laughed out of the building.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:1170-1348 observation first hand
953
Before the end of 2016, the Joint Staff rejected assigning Operation Plan Interloper an Alternative Compensatory Control Measure (ACCM) designation.
“Before 2016 ended, I received the news from Jay that the Joint Staff had rejected assigning OPLAN Interloper an ACCM designation, our plan to lure UAP out of hiding on the open seas.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:120-297 administrative first hand
954
Lue Elizondo and Jay Stratton spent considerable time coordinating Operation Plan Interloper.
“Jay and I had spent considerable time coordinating that effort.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:2077-2133 administrative first hand
955
Operation Plan Interloper was a plan to lure Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) out of hiding on the open seas.
“our plan to lure UAP out of hiding on the open seas”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:250-297 administrative first hand
956
Lue Elizondo envisioned declassifying some UAP videos and making them available to handpicked colleagues in the defence industry via a secure government server, rather than requiring them to obtain clearance and view the footage in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF).
“Instead of having experts get clearance and be forced to view the footage in a SCIF with us, I envisioned declassifying some videos and making them available on a secure government server. We would share the appropriate password with handpicked colleagues and instruct them to watch the videos at their leisure.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:2575-2878 administrative first hand
957
The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) had used a secure-server approach to share all but one of thirty-eight academic theoretical research papers that Harold Puthoff had commissioned from various scientists.
“With great success, AAWSAP had used the same approach to share all but one of the thirty-eight academic theoretical research papers Hal had commissioned from various scientists.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:2887-3053 administrative first hand
958
Lue Elizondo needed to select three unclassified UAP videos to share, knowing they would be the least useful examples.
“I knew I needed to select three unclassified videos to share. Knowing full well that these would be the least useful, I didn’t have a choice.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:3294-3428 administrative first hand
959
Lue Elizondo deemed the United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) video from Aguadilla, Puerto Rico too sensitive to select for release because of its origin with a sister agency.
“I deemed the DHS video from Aguadilla, Puerto Rico, as too sensitive because of its origin, a sister agency.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:3644-3745 administrative first hand
960
Even though the United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS) video from Aguadilla, Puerto Rico had already leaked online, Lue Elizondo was not willing to confirm it was a US government video without the DHS agreeing to that decision.
“Even if it was already leaked online, I wasn’t about to confirm it was indeed a US government video without DHS agreeing to that decision.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:3753-3882 administrative first hand
961
Lue Elizondo selected the GoFast video, the GIMBAL video, and the FLIR1 video (also known as the 2004 Tic Tac video) as the three UAP videos he chose to submit for declassification, because their low resolution would hasten the approval process.
“I anticipated that their low resolution would be an asset and hasten the approval process. I chose the FLIR video (aka Tic Tac from 2004), and the GoFast and GIMBAL videos from 2015.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:3984-4161 administrative first hand
962
Lue Elizondo described the GoFast video, the GIMBAL video, and the FLIR1 (Tic Tac) video on a single DoD Form 1910, the form the United States Department of Defense (DoD) uses to request declassification of documents and multimedia content.
“I described all three videos on a single Form 1910, which the DoD uses to request declassification of everything from documents to multimedia content.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:4167-4309 administrative first hand
963
On the DoD Form 1910, Lue Elizondo wrote the reason for publication as "Not Applicable. Not for publication. Research and analysis ONLY and info sharing with other US government and industry partners for the purposes of developing a database to help identify, analyze, and ultimately defeat [unusual aerial systems] threats."
“In the space on the form where I was to list the reason for publication, I simply typed, "Not Applicable. Not for publication. Research and analysis ONLY and info sharing with other US government and industry partners for the purposes of developing a database to help identify, analyze, and ultimately defeat [unusual aerial systems] threats."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:4319-4653 administrative first hand
964
Lue Elizondo wrote "Not Applicable" on the DoD Form 1910 because a book is published but a video is released, and he prided himself on communicating as precisely as possible.
“The reason I chose to say “Not Applicable” was simply that you publish a book; you don’t publish a video, you release it. I always prided myself on communicating as precisely as possible.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:4663-4847 administrative first hand
965
A few days after submitting DoD Form 1910, Lue Elizondo received an email from the Department of Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review (DoDOPSR), the government body that handles declassification requests.
“A few days later, I received an email from the Department of Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review (DoDOPSR), the government body that handles these requests.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:4858-5022 administrative first hand
966
Pentagon leadership did not want to be associated with the historical stigma around Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).
“They did not want to be associated with the historical stigma around UFOs.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:502-571 opinion first hand
967
The Department of Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review (DoDOPSR) said it could not declassify the requested UAP videos for release to a restricted audience, and instead urged Lue Elizondo to change the request to unrestricted public release.
“DoDOPSR said they could not declassify this kind of media for release to a restricted audience. They urged us to change our request and instead request unrestricted release to make the videos public.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:5185-5377 administrative second hand
968
The Department of Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review (DoDOPSR) officially stamped Lue Elizondo's DoD Form 1910 with the words "UNLIMITED DISTRIBUTION", approving unrestricted public release of the GoFast, GIMBAL, and FLIR1 (Tic Tac) videos.
“Shortly after, the approval showed up in my inbox. DoDOPSR had officially stamped my Form 1910 with the following words: UNLIMITED DISTRIBUTION.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:5617-5748 administrative first hand
969
Jay Stratton came up with the idea of calling unidentified objects Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) instead of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), to make the conversation with leadership easier.
“Early on, to make it easier to have the conversation, Jay came up with the idea of calling these objects unidentified aerial phenomena, UAP, instead of UFOs.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:935-1087 administrative second hand
970
A senior White House advisor named Brad Byers and a CIA liaison officer referred to as Shari Smith were deferred to by a Secretary of Defense (SECDEF) liaison handling Luis Elizondo's efforts to brief James Mattis.
“The liaison had a hard time grasping the enormity of the issue and quickly deferred to two colleagues of his, a senior White House advisor named Brad Byers, and a CIA liaison officer I will call Shari Smith.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:1260-1461 testimony first hand
971
Jennifer Elizondo worked in a senior management job with the Comptroller of Maryland's Information Technology (IT) Division.
“She had a senior management job that she loved with the comptroller of Maryland's IT Division, which she had worked for years to achieve”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:12848-12977 testimony first hand
972
If Luis Elizondo waited to resign from the Pentagon until age fifty-seven, he could begin withdrawing his pension then, but resigning before that meant waiting until age sixty-two to access his pension.
“if you *quit* the Pentagon," she reminded me, "you can't touch your pension until you're sixty-two. If you wait, tough it out, you can start withdrawing at fifty-seven."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:13593-13755 testimony first hand
973
Luis Elizondo was in his forties at the time he decided to resign from the Pentagon.
“I was only in my forties.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:13763-13780 testimony first hand
974
Brad Byers and Shari Smith requested extensive data, and asked to speak with the pilot witnesses David Fravor and Alex Dietrich along with a radar operator, in connection with briefing James Mattis on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“They asked for reams of data. They asked to speak to our pilot witnesses. We brought in Fravor, Dietrich, and a radar operator.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:1468-1613 testimony first hand
975
Luis Elizondo's father drove fruit trucks to markets in Miami, Florida, and lived in a single-room trailer in Immokalee, Florida, after Luis Elizondo's parents' divorce.
“After my parents' divorce, I visited my father for a long weekend in Immokalee, Florida, where he drove fruit trucks to the markets in Miami.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:15454-15589 testimony first hand
976
Luis Elizondo's father and mother previously ran a restaurant serving five-star meals in Sarasota, Florida.
“A far cry from the five-star meals he served to Sarasota's finest back when he and Mom ran their restaurant.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:15596-15693 testimony first hand
977
Luis Elizondo's father told him that he had once lived in Fidel Castro's prisons in Cuba.
“"Son, I used to live in Castro's prisons," he said.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:16194-16239 testimony second hand
978
Luis Elizondo's father later saved money, invested in real estate, and rebuilt his fortune to the point of being able to live on a yacht.
“My father saved his money, invested in real estate, and would one day rebuild his fortune to the point where he could live on a yacht.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:16544-16672 testimony first hand
979
Nothing about the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) briefing effort reached James Mattis despite the extensive information gathering.
“Yet, after all that, nothing got to Mattis.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:1686-1722 testimony first hand
980
Luis Elizondo carpooled to work with his friend John Robert on the morning he told him he was resigning from the Pentagon.
“That morning, I carpooled with my old friend John Robert.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:17859-17909 testimony first hand
981
Brad Byers was hesitant to brief James Mattis until the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)) had a permanent, Senate-confirmed appointee, since the position had been filled only by acting or temporary personnel after Michael Vickers departed.
“Brad was hesitant to brief Mattis until my office, OUSD(I), had a permanent appointment. Since Michael Vickers had left his position, the USD(I) was filled with either "acting" or temporary people. The position required a Senate-confirmed person and so the Pentagon was still searching for the right individual.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:1836-2136 testimony first hand
982
John Robert had been privy to details of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), allowing Luis Elizondo to speak more freely to him than to his own wife about his resignation.
“Since he'd been privy to the details of AATIP, I could speak more freely to him than to my own wife.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:18504-18599 testimony first hand
983
John Robert told Luis Elizondo that if he ever talked about the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), it would end his career.
“"Especially if you ever talk about AATIP. You're toast."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:18810-18858 opinion first hand
984
Luis Elizondo wanted to save the Department of Defense (DoD) from making a massive mistake.
“I wanted to save DoD from making a massive mistake.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:20201-20244 testimony first hand
985
Luis Elizondo wanted to save James Mattis.
“I wanted to save Mattis.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:20253-20270 testimony first hand
986
Luis Elizondo wanted to save the Department of Defense's reputation.
“I wanted to save DoD’s reputation.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:20278-20301 testimony first hand
987
Luis Elizondo resolved that if pushed, he would push back hard against the Department of Defense (DoD).
“But if I am pushed, I will push back—hard.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:20347-20384 testimony first hand
988
Luis Elizondo and Jay Stratton made a plan at work to bring about disclosure of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“At work, Jay Stratton and I made a plan that would go against all odds. A plan to bring about disclosure.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:20766-20860 testimony first hand
989
Luis Elizondo planned to resign and go public with the mission of bringing attention and credibility to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue.
“I would resign and go public with the mission of bringing as much attention and credibility to the issue as possible.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:20872-20980 testimony first hand
990
Jay Stratton planned to stay with the government and use the momentum gained by Luis Elizondo's public attention to move disclosure forward within the government.
“Jay would stay with the government and use the momentum gained by the public attention to move the ball forward within the government and brief any and all officials who would no doubt suddenly be interested.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:20990-21214 testimony first hand
991
Jay Stratton was positioned to run whatever version of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) came next.
“And he’d be positioned to run whatever version of AATIP came next.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:21321-21382 testimony first hand
992
Luis Elizondo planned to help educate the United States Congress and facilitate introducing them to credible military and intelligence community members who had had Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encounters.
“I’d also help educate Congress and facilitate introducing them to credible military and IC members who’d had UAP encounters.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:21388-21501 testimony first hand
993
Christopher Mellon met with a journalist he knew in a parking lot inside the Beltway.
“A few days later, Chris Mellon took to a parking lot somewhere inside the Beltway, where he met with a journalist he knew.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:21764-21881 testimony second hand
994
Christopher Mellon handed a journalist a padded envelope filled with CDs encoded with data.
“Mellon handed over a padded envelope filled with CDs encoded with data.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:22007-22073 testimony second hand
995
Christopher Mellon used his contacts at the Pentagon to obtain copies of three unclassified Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) videos.
“He had used his contacts at the Pentagon to get copies of the three unclassified UAP videos.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:22079-22164 testimony second hand
996
The three unclassified Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) videos had been legally released to the American people the moment the Pentagon approved Luis Elizondo's DoD Form 1910.
“By the letter of the law, the videos had been released to the American people the moment the Pentagon approved my Form 1910.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:22296-22415 testimony first hand
997
Christopher Mellon's long service in the intelligence community meant he knew where the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) videos had been kept and how to extract them.
“Mellon’s long service in the intelligence community meant he knew exactly where the videos had been tucked away and how to extract them.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:22421-22552 testimony first hand
998
Luis Elizondo previously served in Kandahar, Afghanistan, with James Mattis during Operation Enduring Freedom, when Mattis was Marine Expeditionary Unit Commander.
“I then referenced my work in Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan... "I was in Kandahar with the secretary when he was Marine Expeditionary Unit Commander."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:2548-2714 testimony first hand
999
Luis Elizondo considers James Mattis to be a man who wants more information rather than less.
“my experience with him has taught me that he is a man who wants more information, not less.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:2834-2920 opinion first hand
1000
Brad Byers and Shari Smith did not want to put James Mattis in a position where the press could ask him directly whether he had been briefed on the reality of UAP.
“My chief contacts, Shari and Brad, did not want to put Mattis in an impossible position. If the press got wind of these meetings, they could ask Mattis directly in an open press briefing: "Mr. Secretary, is it true you were recently briefed to the reality of UAP and the dangers they may pose to our pilots?"”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:3011-3311 testimony first hand
1001
Luis Elizondo and an unnamed colleague proposed that Neill Tipton join the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) to support the effort, with the Secretary of Defense's front office providing him cover and protection, and Brad Byers and Shari Smith agreed to this arrangement.
“Neill would join AATIP and help support the effort. We would feed him the data, and the secretary's front office would give him the necessary cover and protection. (Brad and Shari agreed to this.)”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:4680-4870 testimony first hand
1002
Neill Tipton had previously assisted Luis Elizondo's investigation of the Predator unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) video and had followed up on the case with an email.
“He'd given us the benefit of his expertise in the past when we had investigated the Predator video, and he took the initiative to follow up on the case with an email.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:4929-5089 testimony first hand
1003
Neill Tipton was, at the time, among the top three senior officials in the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)), a rank equivalent to a three-star general.
“He was now among the top three senior officials in the OUSD(I), the equivalent of a three-star general.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:5096-5191 testimony first hand
1004
Luis Elizondo gave Neill Tipton a full briefing and a large folder several inches thick containing hard copies of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) reports, along with access to the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)) classified share drive.
“I returned to Neill's office, gave him the briefing, and handed over a large folder with hard copies of UAP reports. It was several inches thick. I also gave him access to our share folder on the OUSD(I) classified share drive.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:5474-5695 testimony first hand
1005
Everyone involved agreed that Neill Tipton would become the new UAP czar for the United States Department of Defense (DoD).
“Everyone agreed that Neill would be the new UAP czar for DoD.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:5958-6015 testimony first hand
1006
Neill Tipton read and accepted the contents of Luis Elizondo's memo transferring AATIP (Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program) responsibilities to him, but delayed signing it until his return from a temporary duty (TDY) trip.
“Neill read and accepted the contents of my memo, but he delayed signing it and said he would upon his return from a TDY—an official trip.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:6212-6344 testimony first hand
1007
Luis Elizondo gave permission to Christopher Mellon to share his name with senior-level officials who could help Jay Stratton and Luis Elizondo reach James Mattis.
“A week prior, I had given permission to Chris Mellon to share my name with some senior-level officials he knew who would be in a position to help Jay and me get to Mattis appropriately.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:654-825 testimony first hand
1008
The Legacy Program was, at the time, in possession of advanced technology made off-world by nonhuman intelligence (NHI), existing in the shadows unknown to elected officials or the Pentagon.
“All the while, the Legacy Program existed in the shadows, in possession of advanced technology made off-world by nonhuman intelligence, but seemingly no elected officials and no one at the Pentagon knew about it.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:7364-7573 testimony first hand
1009
Luis Elizondo, Jay Stratton, and Christopher Mellon concluded that the only way to change how the Pentagon handled Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) was to get the United States Congress to force change.
“Wargaming it with Jay and Chris Mellon, we realized that the only way to change the way the Pentagon was handling this was to get Congress to make them change.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:7879-8058 testimony first hand
1010
Christopher Mellon told Luis Elizondo that the way to get the United States Congress to pay attention was to take the issue to the press.
“as Mellon reminded us, the way to get Congress to pay attention was to take it to the streets and get the press involved.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:8070-8182 testimony second hand
1011
Luis Elizondo faced a choice between remaining silent about the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue or resigning from his Pentagon career to go public and reveal the truth about UAP to the American people.
“The way I saw it, I really only had two choices: (1) make peace with silence and sitting on humanity's biggest secret... or (2) resign from a career I love in order to fulfill my duty to serve the interest of the people of the United States, and to do the right thing, by going public and revealing the truth about UAP to the American people.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:8255-8688 testimony first hand
1012
Luis Elizondo considers the actions of Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden in disclosing classified information to have arguably done more harm than good, since intelligence was compromised and people lost their lives.
“The damage inflicted by people such as Bradley (now Chelsea) Manning and, later, Edward Snowden arguably did more harm than good. Yes, the truth got out, but people lost their lives, and intelligence was compromised in the process.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:9469-9692 opinion first hand
1013
Jim Semivan told Luis Elizondo that To The Stars Academy could use his knowledge of the UAP topic and his help setting up security, and encouraged him to meet Tom DeLonge.
“Jim said TTSA could use my knowledge of the UAP topic and my help setting up security, and encouraged me to meet Tom.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:10660-10773 testimony second hand
1014
Luis Elizondo was never part of the board of directors of To The Stars Academy and was simply an employee of the company.
“For the record, I was never part of the board of directors, so I had no visibility into the nuances of the corporate structure plan. I was simply an employee of the company.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:12760-12925 testimony first hand
1015
On 2017-10-04, Luis Elizondo submitted his formal resignation letter, addressed to James Mattis, by handing a paper copy to a colleague to deliver to the secretary's office.
“That afternoon, I submitted my formal resignation letter—handing a paper copy inside an envelope to a colleague to deliver to the secretary’s office.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:1277-1419 testimony first hand
1016
Garry P. Nolan of Stanford University was a friend and colleague of Luis Elizondo and was included on Tom DeLonge's advisory board.
“my friend and colleague from Stanford University, Dr. Garry Nolan”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:13554-13614 administrative first hand
1017
Luis Elizondo accepted the job offer from To The Stars Academy, and shortly afterward TTSA was officially announced with him on board.
“With her usual loving support, I accepted the job, and a short time later, TTSA was officially announced with me on board.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:15790-15906 testimony first hand
1018
After leaving To The Stars Academy's announcement period, Luis Elizondo travelled to Philadelphia to meet again with Leslie Kean, this time also with her colleague Ralph Blumenthal.
“Later that month, I left our house for a short trip to Philadelphia to meet again with Leslie Kean, this time with her longtime colleague and friend Ralph Blumenthal.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:15914-16069 testimony first hand
1019
In Philadelphia, Luis Elizondo, Leslie Kean, and Ralph Blumenthal noticed two individuals with tight military-style haircuts observing them on the street, whom Elizondo believed were most likely an Air Force Office of Special Investigations surveillance team.
“I noticed two individuals with tight military-style haircuts in different parts of the street as we strolled. I was certain we were being observed. They displayed the classic signs. They were most likely an AFOSI surveillance team, just not their A-Team.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:17467-17716 testimony first hand
1020
Leslie Kean photographed one of the surveillance men after he walked into a hotel lobby and discovered Elizondo, Kean, and Blumenthal watching him.
“One of the surveillance guys walked into the lobby, only to discover that we were staring right at him and Leslie had just snapped his picture. He scurried away.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:17927-18083 testimony first hand
1021
A colleague of Luis Elizondo told him that someone was telling people at the Pentagon that Elizondo had lied about his assignments to particular units.
““Lue, they’re saying you lied about your assignments to *this* unit or *that* unit. I had to remind them that I was there and served with you!””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:18340-18477 hearsay second hand
1022
During the family's move to California, Luis Elizondo's daughter Taylor Elizondo stayed behind for college while his daughter Alex Elizondo was uprooted to finish her senior year of high school in California.
“Taylor was staying behind for college. Alex would be uprooted and finish her senior year at a high school in California.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:18610-18719 testimony first hand
1023
At the Pentagon's Christmas party, aides told Secretary of Defense James Mattis that the New York Times was running a front-page Sunday story reporting a secret Department of Defense program investigating UAP and asking why Luis Elizondo had resigned.
““Sir, the *New York Times* is running a front-page story in the Sunday paper saying that we have a secret program investigating UAP. They are asking why Lue resigned.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:19049-19205 hearsay second hand
1024
When told that Luis Elizondo had resigned two months earlier, James Mattis was surprised, not having previously known of the resignation.
“Mattis was taken aback. “When did Lue resign?” ... “Uh, two months ago, sir.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:19303-19372 hearsay second hand
1025
Garry Reid had withheld Luis Elizondo's resignation from James Mattis, hoping he would never need to reveal Elizondo's departure to him.
“Apparently, Garry Reid had swept my resignation under the rug, hoping he would never need to reveal my departure to Mattis.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:19379-19495 opinion first hand
1026
Reporter Helene Cooper phoned Luis Elizondo and confided that she had met with a since-departed Pentagon official regarding the New York Times UAP story.
“Then one of her colleagues, the reporter Helene Cooper, phoned and confided that she had met with the now-r”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:19873-19975 testimony first hand
1027
Harry Reid publicly corroborated his and his colleagues' involvement in funding the original programme that led to the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) and Luis Elizondo's leadership role.
“retired senator Harry Reid, who had unabashedly corroborated his and his colleagues' involvement in funding the original program that led to AATIP and my leadership role.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:19979-20144 testimony first hand
1028
Luis Elizondo met Bryan Bender once or twice over coffee in Annapolis, Maryland.
“I met Bryan once or twice over coffee in Annapolis.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:20365-20406 observation first hand
1029
Luis Elizondo considers Bryan Bender a shrewd reporter who knew the workings of the Pentagon better than most people who worked there.
“He was a very shrewd reporter who knew the ins and outs of the Pentagon better than most people who worked there.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:20417-20524 opinion first hand
1030
Luis Elizondo observed that Bryan Bender had a large pool of sources that Bender never revealed to Elizondo.
“He had a huge pool of sources to tap into, although he never revealed any of them to me.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:20531-20616 observation first hand
1031
Bryan Bender was more interested in the national security aspect and potential threat posed by Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) than in the phenomenon itself.
“Bryan seemed more interested in the national security aspect and potential threat.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:20687-20762 opinion first hand
1032
In his resignation letter, Luis Elizondo wrote that certain individuals in the Department of Defense remained opposed to further research on anomalous aerospace threats despite overwhelming evidence at both unclassified and classified levels.
“Despite overwhelming evidence at both the unclassified and classified levels, certain individuals in the Department remain staunchly opposed to further research on what could be a tactical threat to our pilots, sailors, and soldiers, and perhaps even an existential threat to our national security.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:2108-2397 opinion first hand
1033
Bryan Bender did not come across as a believer in Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), but rather seemed interested in whether the Pentagon had a programme that was never disclosed to the public or Congress.
“Bryan didn't come across as a "UAP believer." Rather, he seemed interested in the Pentagon having a program that wasn't ever disclosed to the public or Congress, but I could be wrong.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:21100-21304 opinion first hand
1034
On 2017-12-16, Luis Elizondo took Jennifer for breakfast at the Double T Diner in Annapolis, Maryland.
“Early Saturday morning, December 16, 2017, I took Jenn for breakfast at the popular Double T Diner in Annapolis.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:21312-21414 observation first hand
1035
On 2017-12-16, an unnamed source told Luis Elizondo that two news stories about the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) would be published the next day.
“Early that morning, a little birdie had told me that by tomorrow, both stories would be out.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:21596-21684 hearsay second hand
1036
On the afternoon of 2017-12-16, the New York Times broke online news of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), followed seconds later by Politico and then the Washington Post.
“The news exploded that afternoon. The New York Times broke the news online and was followed seconds later by Politico, then the Washington Post.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:21978-22122 observation first hand
1037
The front-page New York Times story revealed the existence of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), a secret programme investigating Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), and Luis Elizondo's role in it.
“Their front-page story revealed the existence of AATIP—that is, a secret program investigating UAP—and my role.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:22376-22482 administrative
1038
The Politico article about the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) stated that Pentagon spokesperson Dana White confirmed Luis Elizondo's role in the programme.
“The Politico piece in particular spelled out that the Pentagon's spokesperson, Dana White, had confirmed my role in the program.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:23060-23182 administrative second hand
1039
Following the December 2017 news coverage, calls flooded Luis Elizondo's home from CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, PBS, Fox, and MSNBC.
“Calls flooded our home from CBS, ABC, NBC, CNN, PBS, Fox, MSNBC, etc.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:23393-23458 observation first hand
1040
Jennifer was shocked that reporters had found her mobile phone number, which had always been private.
“Jennifer was shocked that reporters found her mobile number, which had always been private.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:23463-23546 observation first hand
1041
Luis Elizondo's daughter Alex Elizondo started receiving calls from reporters wanting to talk to Luis Elizondo after the December 2017 news coverage.
“Even our daughter Alex started getting calls from reporters wanting to talk to me.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:23555-23634 observation first hand
1042
Millions of people around the world watched the UAP videos released alongside the December 2017 New York Times AATIP disclosure.
“It was a truly unprecedented amount of UAP information to drop into the world's lap in a single morning. Millions of people all over the world watched the videos.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:23718-23873 observation first hand
1043
Luis Elizondo considers that the 2017 New York Times and Politico articles did not adequately explain the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) or the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), which caused confusion for years afterward.
“The articles did not explain AAWSAP/AATIP, which would go on to cause confusion for years.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:23943-24027 opinion first hand
1044
In his resignation letter, Luis Elizondo wrote that there seemed to be a direct correlation between the observed phenomena and US nuclear and military capabilities.
“In many instances, there seems to be a direct correlation the phenomena exhibits with respect to our nuclear and military capabilities.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:2407-2529 opinion first hand
1045
Luis Elizondo and his colleagues considered the New York Times' cautious disclaimer on the Tic Tac article absurd and believed the headline should have been "We are not alone!"
“My colleagues and I thought that was absurd. The headline should have been "We are not alone!"”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:24363-24450 opinion first hand
1046
Luis Elizondo had anticipated headlines focused on the national security threat posed by Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), such as "UAP Are Real and Present a National Security Threat," but news editors instead emphasised that the US government had secretly studied UAP via the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“I had anticipated headlines that focused on the threat: "UAP Are Real and Present a National Security Threat." Instead the editors at the news outlets emphasized the stodgy fact that the US government had secretly studied UAP via AATIP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:24459-24689 opinion first hand
1047
In the week following the December 2017 New York Times AATIP disclosure, news platforms all over the world picked up the story.
“But in the coming week, momentum built and news platforms all over the world picked up the story.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:24916-25007 observation first hand
1048
While waiting in the greenroom at CNN before an on-camera interview, Luis Elizondo and Jennifer were approached by James Clapper.
“While waiting in the greenroom at CNN prior to an on-camera interview, Jenn and I were approached by my old boss, the legendary general James Clapper.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:25015-25157 observation first hand
1049
James Clapper had been one of Luis Elizondo's upper-level supervisors during what Elizondo considered the golden era of the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)).
“Clapper had been one of my upper-level supervisors, in what I considered the golden era of OUSD(I), when people were happy and the mission was their focus.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:25357-25533 opinion first hand
1050
In his resignation letter, Luis Elizondo wrote that the Navy and other US military services had reported unusual aerial systems interfering with military weapon platforms and displaying beyond-next-generation capabilities.
“The Department must take serious the many accounts by the Navy and other Services of unusual aerial systems interfering with military weapon platforms and displaying beyond-next-generation capabilities.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:2543-2732 opinion first hand
1051
James Clapper told Luis Elizondo he was surprised the Pentagon admitted it had a UAP programme and that he was proud of Elizondo.
“He greeted us warmly, saying how surprised he was that the Pentagon admitted it had a UAP program, and that he was proud of me.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:25579-25703 testimony first hand
1052
The Air Force Office of Special Investigations (OSI) inquiry into the release of the UAP videos drew on into the following spring and found no impropriety in Luis Elizondo's actions.
“That investigation would drag on well into spring. Eventually, they found no impropriety in my actions.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:26130-26225 administrative
1053
Luis Elizondo's public disclosure caused Congress to pay attention, and Jay Stratton began receiving requests for briefings from members of Congress who previously had not been aware of the facts about UAP due to stigma and bureaucracy.
“Our plan was working. My going public caused Congress to pay attention and Jay started getting requests for briefings from members of Congress who previously would have never been aware of the facts, due to the stigma and layers of bureaucracy.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:26235-26467 observation first hand
1054
Jay Stratton, Christopher Mellon, and Luis Elizondo funnelled credible members of the military and intelligence community with knowledge of UAP to Congress.
“Jay, Chris, and I all funneled credible members of the military and intelligence community who had knowledge of UAP to Congress.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:26528-26647 observation first hand
1055
Luis Elizondo considers that testimony from military pilots who had encountered Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), and the data supporting their accounts, made the greatest early impact on Congress.
“Military pilots who had encountered UAP, and the data supporting what they saw, made the most impact on Congress at first.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:26657-26773 opinion first hand
1056
Neill Tipton got cold feet about taking Luis Elizondo's place at the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) and began telling people he knew nothing about AATIP, its focus, or Elizondo's involvement.
“Meanwhile, Neill got cold feet about taking my place at AATIP—something I wouldn't have expected from him—and began to backpedal, telling people that he knew nothing about AATIP, its focus, or my involvement.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:27067-27263 hearsay second hand
1057
Someone in the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)) allegedly authorised the complete deletion of all Luis Elizondo's electronic files, folders, and emails, under the justification that they had no historic value, according to a Freedom of Information Act response from the Pentagon.
“Sometime shortly thereafter, someone in OUSD(I) allegedly authorized the complete deletion of all my electronic files, folders, and emails, under the justification that they had "no historic value." Or so claimed a Freedom of Information Act response from the Pentagon itself.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:27894-28163 hearsay second hand
1058
Luis Elizondo's files had long been singled out for preservation under a court protective order signed by a judge, not related to UAP but because of Elizondo's work on Guantanamo Bay.
“If true, this was troubling, because my files had long been singled out for careful preservation by a court order, not due to UAP, but because of the work I'd done on Guantanamo Bay. This protective order had been in place for some time, signed by a judge.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:28171-28421 administrative first hand
1059
Luis Elizondo's emails and files had been flagged as evidence in the criminal prosecution of those charged in connection with the September 11 attacks.
“My emails and files had been flagged as evidence in a criminal prosecution of those criminally charged for being responsible for 9/11.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:28428-28559 administrative first hand
1060
In January 2018, Jennifer and Luis Elizondo took their daughters to California to search for a temporary place to live.
“In January 2018, Jenn and I took our daughters out to California to search for a temporary place to live.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:28859-28959 observation first hand
1061
Luis Elizondo's Pentagon job had marked the beginning of an unusual period of stability for him and Jennifer, who had previously been military nomads travelling wherever he was stationed.
“In our youth, Jenn and I had been military nomads, traveling wherever in the world I was stationed. My Pentagon job had marked the beginning of an unusual period of stability for us.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:29157-29336 observation first hand
1062
Luis Elizondo held a long breakfast with staffers, colleagues, and contractors in the Pentagon cafeteria on the morning of his resignation.
“Many of them joined me that morning in the Pentagon cafeteria. We enjoyed a long breakfast—my treat as a token of my appreciation—and said our farewells.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:292-435 testimony first hand
1063
Luis Elizondo and Jennifer, as parents of two daughters, considered Kent Island, Maryland, the best place they could have lived.
“As parents of two daughters, we could not have found a better place to live than magical Kent Island.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:29340-29434 opinion first hand
1064
Luis Elizondo served in the Department of Defense for more than twenty-two years before his 2017 resignation.
“I turned in my credentials and departed forever the monolithic building that had shaped my career for more than twenty-two years.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:3592-3715 administrative first hand
1065
After resigning, Luis Elizondo received a call from John Garrity, his immediate supervisor on the Guantanamo Bay portfolio, saying that Garry Reid wanted to see him immediately.
“About an hour later, I got the call. On the other end I heard the somber voice of John Garrity, my immediate supervisor on the Guantanamo portfolio. “Hey, Lue,” he said, “Garry Reid wants to see you immediately.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:3988-4188 testimony first hand
1066
Luis Elizondo had kept his superior Garry Reid out of the loop on anything pertaining to the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“I had kept our top boss Garry Reid out of the loop on anything pertaining to AATIP, for reasons mentioned earlier.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:4203-4309 testimony first hand
1067
Garry Reid asked Luis Elizondo what he was supposed to do with his resignation letter.
“When his assistant patched him through, Reid flippantly asked, “What am I supposed to do with this letter, Lue?””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:4334-4441 testimony first hand
1068
Luis Elizondo deliberately addressed his resignation letter to Secretary of Defense James Mattis so that no one in the Pentagon would be able to keep it from him.
“I had deliberately addressed my resignation letter to Secretary of Defense Mattis so no one in the Pentagon would be able to keep it from him.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:4448-4586 testimony first hand
1069
Garry Reid ran security and law enforcement for the Department of Defense.
“He ran security and law enforcement for the DoD.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:5335-5379 testimony first hand
1070
Garry Reid told Luis Elizondo that if he did not come in to see him, Reid would have no option but to tell people Elizondo was acting crazy, and warned it could affect his security clearance.
““Lue, you realize that if you do this, I will have no option but to tell people that you’re acting crazy. You don’t want this affecting your security clearance, do you? You still want a job somewhere, don’t you?””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:5479-5685 testimony first hand
1071
Garry Reid controlled security clearances for all of the Department of Defense, including Luis Elizondo's.
“Reid also controlled security clearances for all of DoD, including mine.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:5691-5785 testimony first hand
1072
Colleagues loyal to Luis Elizondo who remained at the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence told him that Garry Reid planned to launch a criminal inquiry with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations.
“Several people loyal to me who were still at OUSD(I) told me that Reid planned to launch a criminal inquiry with the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI).”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:6566-6727 hearsay second hand
1073
Garry Reid seized Luis Elizondo's computers and files from his office and questioned every one of his employees after Elizondo's resignation.
“Reid had already seized my computers and files from my office and questioned every one of my employees.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:6828-6921 testimony first hand
1074
A friend of Luis Elizondo told him she had been cornered by a Garry Reid subordinate who said, "We are going to nail Lue to the floor."
“One friend phoned to tell me she’d been cornered by a Reid underling who confided, “We are going to nail Lue to the floor.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:7023-7139 hearsay second hand
1075
Christopher Mellon, Jim Semivan, and Harold Puthoff met with Luis Elizondo and journalist Leslie Kean in the lobby of a hotel near the Pentagon.
“Chris Mellon and Jim Semivan awaited me in the lobby of a hotel not far from the Pentagon. Hal Puthoff arrived shortly after, as did the individual we had all gathered to meet: an independent investigative journalist by the name of Leslie Kean, whom Chris had arranged for us to meet.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:7273-7552 testimony first hand
1076
Luis Elizondo wrote two resignation letters: one for his chain of command and one addressed directly to Secretary of Defense James Mattis.
“I crafted two resignation letters, one for my chain of command and one to the secretary himself.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:778-866 testimony first hand
1077
Luis Elizondo's meeting with Leslie Kean, alongside Christopher Mellon, Harold Puthoff, and Jim Semivan, lasted four hours.
“Meeting with Kean lasted an exhausting four hours.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:8535-8579 testimony first hand
1078
During his 2017 meeting with Leslie Kean, this was the first time Kean learned of the existence of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“I am certain this was the first time Kean learned of AATIP’s existence.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:8794-8855 testimony first hand
1079
Luis Elizondo's direct chain of command was not read into the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), so he wrote them only a bare-minimum letter to avoid an unauthorised disclosure.
“My direct chain of command was not read-in to our program, so I only wrote the very bare minimum informing them of my intent to leave. I did not want to be responsible for an unauthorized disclosure.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:919-1107 testimony first hand
1080
Christopher Mellon, Harold Puthoff, and Jim Semivan urged Luis Elizondo to connect with the media in order to reach the American public on the UAP issue.
“Chris Mellon, Hal, and Semivan urged me to consider a different path. If you want to reach the American people on this issue, they said, you need to connect with the media.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:9769-9935 testimony first hand
1081
When the COVID-19 pandemic hit, the To The Stars Academy (TTSA) office was shut down and Lue Elizondo worked from his recreational vehicle (RV).
“When Covid hit, the office at TTSA was shut down and I worked from the comforts of our RV home.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:10133-10223 administrative first hand
1082
In December 2020, Tom DeLonge called Lue Elizondo shortly before Christmas and ended their business relationship, stating that the business had not brought in the money he expected or needed.
“Shortly after, I received an unpleasant Christmas present. Just a few days before Christmas, I got a call from Tom, who was friendly but blunt. Our business relationship was over. Despite all our successes, the business had not brought in the money he expected or needed.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:11721-11985 testimony first hand
1083
When Lue Elizondo resigned from the Pentagon in 2017, he joined To The Stars Academy (TTSA) because he thought he needed a platform to spread his message and rejoin Harold Puthoff, Jim Semivan, and Chris Mellon.
“When I resigned from the Pentagon in 2017, I had jumped at the opportunity to join TTSA because I thought I needed the platform to spread my message and rejoin Hal, Jim, and Chris.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:12361-12535 testimony first hand
1084
Lue Elizondo took a consultancy with a small aerospace firm to bring in income after leaving To The Stars Academy (TTSA) work behind.
“I still had value inside government, and I took a consultancy with a small aerospace firm to bring in income.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:12645-12747 testimony first hand
1085
Christopher Mellon, Harold Puthoff, and Steve Justice moved on from To The Stars Academy (TTSA) after Lue Elizondo did.
“Chris, Hal, and Steve Justice also soon moved on from TTSA.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:12930-12984 administrative first hand
1086
Lue Elizondo received a call from an agent of the Defense Counterintelligence Security Agency (DCSA), an organisation overseen by Garry Reid, regarding allegations that he had improperly declassified the UAP videos.
“I received a call one day from an agent with the Defense Counterintelligence Security Agency (DCSA), which Garry Reid oversaw. The agent referenced allegations that I had improperly declassified the UAP videos.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:1747-1950 testimony first hand
1087
The Air Force Office of Special Investigations (OSI) had investigated and adjudicated favourably the allegation that Lue Elizondo had improperly declassified the UAP videos.
“I had to remind the young agent that double jeopardy is a no-no, and that AFOSI had investigated and adjudicated the matter favorably.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:1958-2082 testimony first hand
1088
Lue Elizondo filed an official complaint with the Department of Defense (DoD) Office of Inspector General.
“Shortly after, I filed an official complaint with the DoD's office of the Inspector General (IG).”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:3104-3197 administrative first hand
1089
Representatives of the Department of Defense (DoD) Office of Inspector General told Lue Elizondo that he might be called as a witness in the future on an entirely different matter.
“I was stunned when representatives of the IG's office contacted me shortly after to let me know that I might be called as a witness in the future on an entirely different matter.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:3202-3373 testimony first hand
1090
Lue Elizondo observed a small grey drone flying over his house, despite living in a remote area.
“Later that month I noticed a small gray drone flying over my house. I lived in the middle of nowhere and yet someone was clearly interested in knowing more about me.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:3381-3543 observation first hand
1091
Other people who worked with Lue Elizondo were also harassed by the same type of drone used to surveil him.
“As time progressed, others I worked with were also harassed, and the same type of drone was used to spy on them.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:3547-3654 testimony first hand
1092
The History Channel wanted to produce a television show with the To The Stars Academy (TTSA) team featuring investigators interviewing former military personnel about their Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encounters.
“The History Channel wanted to do a show with the TTSA team that would put seasoned investigators in the field, interviewing ex-military personnel about their UAP encounters.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:357-519 administrative first hand
1093
The Department of Defense (DoD) Office of Inspector General investigated Garry Reid over a litany of issues after a complaint from a female DoD employee worked its way through official channels.
“It had taken time for a female DoD employee's complaint to work its way through the proper channels, but the IG was now investigating Garry Reid for a litany of issues that would later be made public.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:3661-3881 testimony first hand
1094
A fake news story appeared online claiming there was no discernible evidence that Lue Elizondo ever worked for a government UAP programme.
“a targeted fake news story popped up online. It claimed, There is no discernible evidence that Luis Elizondo ever worked for a government UAP program.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:3970-4113 hearsay
1095
Pentagon spokesperson Dana White had confirmed Lue Elizondo's leader role in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) for a Politico article, before leaving the Pentagon.
“Pentagon spokesperson Dana White, who had confirmed my leader role in AATIP for the Politico article, had left the Pentagon.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:4398-4515 administrative first hand
1096
Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood denied that Lue Elizondo had any involvement in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), stating on behalf of the Pentagon that "Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program."
“The Pentagon's spokesperson at the time, Christopher Sherwood, suddenly denied I had any involvement in AATIP. ... On behalf of the Pentagon, Sherwood told the reporters, "Mr. Elizondo had no responsibilities with regard to the AATIP program."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:4525-4788 testimony second hand
1097
Jay Stratton received an email from the Pentagon's public affairs office stating that they planned to tell the press that Lue Elizondo was never involved with the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Jay got an email from the Pentagon's public affairs office saying that they planned to tell press that I was never involved with AATIP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:4891-5020 testimony second hand
1098
Jay Stratton told the Pentagon's public affairs office it would be wrong to tell the press that Lue Elizondo was never involved with the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), and that it was not true.
“He replied that it would be wrong of them to do that and said it wasn't true, but they ran with the fake and damaging narrative anyway.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:5027-5155 testimony second hand
1099
Christopher Sherwood admitted to Lue Elizondo that he knew about Elizondo's role in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), but that forces within the Pentagon had instructed him not to admit it.
“He admitted he knew very well about my role at AATIP, but forces within the building instructed him not to admit it.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:5705-5818 testimony first hand
1100
Brad Byers, working in the Secretary of Defense's office, called Christopher Sherwood to express concern over the Pentagon's story about Lue Elizondo, warning that too many senior people knew of Elizondo's role in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Later I learned that even Brad Byers in the SECDEF's office had called Sherwood expressing his concern over the story told by the Pentagon. Byers warned Sherwood that way too many people in senior positions knew of my role in AATIP, that the Pentagon was backing itself into a corner.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:5936-6240 testimony second hand
1101
Lue Elizondo and Christopher Mellon agreed to participate in the History Channel show on the condition that it be authentic, with no artificial drama or conspiracy theories, no scripts, and only current or former government witnesses.
“Chris and I had only one condition for agreeing to be a part of the show: it had to be authentic. No artificial drama or conspiracy theories, no scripts, and only current or former government witnesses.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:609-801 administrative first hand
1102
James Mattis resigned as Secretary of Defense in January 2019 due to differences with the Trump administration.
“Mattis resigned his post in January 2019 due to differences with the Trump administration and went on to suffer the ignominy of being mocked on social media.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:6249-6400 administrative first hand
1103
After James Mattis left the Pentagon, the narrative around the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was reframed to portray Lue Elizondo as a fabricator, and the Pentagon kept giving false information about his employment record.
“With Mattis gone, the AATIP narrative was reframed to portray me as a fabricator. As a result, the Pentagon kept lying when asked about my employment record.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:6407-6557 testimony first hand
1104
Lue Elizondo's Wikipedia page had been updated with omissions and inaccurate statements, and the page was locked so that no one could correct it.
“I was told to look at my Wikipedia page, which had been updated erroneously. The profile had omissions and many inaccurate points stated as facts... someone had somehow locked down the page and no one was able to correct it.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:6980-7256 testimony first hand
1105
Chris Mellon and Lue Elizondo began engaging with people on Capitol Hill in an effort to make change in the United States Congress.
“Chris Mellon and I had begun to engage people on Capitol Hill in an effort to make change in Congress.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:7791-7884 administrative first hand
1106
Tom DeLonge cut Lue Elizondo's salary at To The Stars Academy (TTSA) in half without warning, citing temporary corporate restructuring.
“a few months later, without warning, TTSA cut my salary in half. They said it was temporary, due to "corporate restructuring,"”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:8524-8635 testimony first hand
1107
Jennifer (Jenn), Lue Elizondo's wife, took a job at Target stocking shelves to bring in extra income.
“Jenn got a job at Target stocking shelves to bring in extra income.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:9725-9785 testimony first hand
1108
Jennifer's neurological issues and thoracic outlet syndrome, stemming from being run over by a car nearly a decade earlier, were exacerbated by stress and physical activity.
“Stress and physical activity exacerbated the neurological issues and thoracic outlet syndrome stemming from her being run over by a car nearly a decade earlier.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:9793-9945 testimony first hand
1109
Christopher Mellon and Luis Elizondo drafted the UAP report legislative language during the COVID-19 pandemic.
“By now, the Covid pandemic was in full swing. Chris and I did our homework while the rest of the nation was hunkering down.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:10064-10182 administrative first hand
1110
Senator Marco Rubio, as acting chairman of the US Senate Intelligence Committee, supported the proposal for a UAP transparency report despite criticism from those hostile to transparency.
“Thankfully, Senator Marco Rubio, the acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, was courageous enough to support this important proposal, notwithstanding the inevitable mindless criticism his support would generate from those hostile to the idea of transparency.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:11810-12070 administrative first hand
1111
Tim Burchett's congressional district in Tennessee was near Oak Ridge, home to the nation's uranium stockpile, a former World War II Manhattan Project 'Secret City,' and the site of numerous UAP sightings.
“Coincidentally, his district was near Oak Ridge, home to the nation’s uranium stockpile and a former World War II “Secret City” of the Manhattan Project and the site of countless UAP sightings.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:12918-13101 administrative first hand
1112
Tim Burchett was particularly alarmed by the connection between UAP and US nuclear capabilities.
“He was particularly alarmed by the connection to US nuclear capabilities.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:13112-13172 opinion second hand
1113
Tim Burchett is a born-again Christian and used to own a trailer repair shop before becoming a US representative.
“A born-again Christian, Burchett could not help but be intrigued by the possible connection of UAP to the otherworldly visions of Ezekiel and Elijah in the Bible... not a DC politician, but a blue-collar guy who used to own a trailer repair shop.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:13186-13491 administrative first hand
1114
Luis Elizondo believes that long-running government secrets end up disastrous to all nations and that secrets kept too long impede scientific progress.
“In general, I have come to believe that long-running secrets end up disastrous to all nations... Secrets kept too long impede scientific progress.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:14018-14169 opinion first hand
1115
Christopher Mellon and Jay Stratton developed a multiyear strategy to educate the United States Congress on UAP and legally address disclosure hurdles.
“Chris recognized the vital role that Congress could play in advancing the UAP issue, so we and Jay had made a multiyear strategy, a war plan of sorts, to educate Congress and eventually legally address the hurdles that faced disclosure.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:1435-1687 administrative first hand
1116
An anonymous person highly placed in the US government who Luis Elizondo says knew the truth the government had hidden about UAP told Elizondo that talking openly about the issue was accelerating the chances of an invasion.
“On one occasion, a person highly placed in the US government—a person who knew the truth the government had hidden all these years—told me I had embarked on an unwise mission. “Do you realize,” they said, “that by talking about this issue so openly, you are accelerating the chances that we will be invaded?””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:14614-14914 hearsay second hand
1117
Luis Elizondo believes it is better for all humans to know the truth of reality than to permit governments to keep lying to them.
“I stood firm in my position: it is better for all humans to know the truth of our reality than to permit our governments to keep lying to us.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:15067-15205 opinion first hand
1118
Jay Stratton received requests for briefings from members of the White House National Security Council (NSC), who then briefed Donald Trump on some level regarding UAP.
“We were making enough noise in the press that Jay was getting requests for briefings from members of the White House National Security Council, who then briefed Trump on some level, but I am not sure how much information they actually shared.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:15556-15791 administrative first hand
1119
The Legacy Program and the UAP issue began in 1947.
“Since the Legacy Program and the UAP issue really began in 1947”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:15800-15859 administrative first hand
1120
According to Harold Puthoff and some involved in the Legacy Program, US presidents briefed on UAP are not provided with all the details because presidents do not have a need to know everything and will only temporarily be in their position.
“As Hal mentioned once, and according to some involved in Legacy UAP, presidents simply don’t have a need to know everything, and they will only temporarily be in their position.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:16010-16178 hearsay second hand
1121
Luis Elizondo believes the following US presidents were briefed in some way on UAP: Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Donald Trump.
“As far as I know, the following US presidents were briefed in some way: Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Carter, Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Trump.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:16189-16330 opinion first hand
1122
Jimmy Carter matter-of-factly revealed the existence of the psychic Stargate programme to the media.
“Carter came across as an open-minded, intellectually curious leader, one who matter-of-factly revealed the existence of the psychic Stargate program to the media.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:16338-16494 administrative first hand
1123
Luis Elizondo has reason to believe Richard Nixon was shown images of nonhuman bodies, though Nixon was not taken completely into confidence because he was considered a loose cannon.
“Nixon was considered a loose cannon, so he was not taken completely into confidence, but I have reason to believe he was shown images of nonhuman bodies.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:16501-16647 opinion first hand
1124
Luis Elizondo was told that Gerald Ford was not briefed on UAP, probably because he had too much on his plate dealing with the aftermath of Watergate.
“I was told Gerald Ford was not briefed, probably because he had too much on his plate picking up the pieces of the Watergate debacle.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:16656-16781 hearsay second hand
1125
Gerald Ford had grappled with the UAP subject early in his congressional career, during the 1966 Michigan swamp gas UAP sightings.
“Ford had grappled with the subject early in his congressional career, during the famous 1966 sightings in Michigan.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:16880-16986 administrative first hand
1126
The Ford Presidential Library has released at least fifteen documents related to the Project Blue Book 'swamp gas' finding.
“The Ford Presidential Library has since released at least fifteen documents related to the notorious Blue Book “swamp gas” finding, of which Ford remained forever skeptical.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:16996-17186 administrative first hand
1127
The first step of Luis Elizondo, Christopher Mellon, and Jay Stratton's congressional strategy was to engage key professional staff on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) and the US Senate Armed Services Committee (SASC), as well as members of Congress.
“The first step of the strategy would be to engage key professional staff on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) and the Senate Armed Services Committee (SASC) as well as members of Congress.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:1700-1896 administrative first hand
1128
Gerald Ford remained forever sceptical of the Project Blue Book 'swamp gas' finding.
“of which Ford remained forever skeptical.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:17155-17186 opinion first hand
1129
Luis Elizondo has reason to believe the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), nicknamed the Star Wars programme, which Ronald Reagan championed, was concerned with UAP and not just nuclear weapons.
“As for Reagan, I have reason to believe that the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), nicknamed the Star Wars program, which Reagan championed, was concerned with UAP, not just nukes.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:17198-17374 opinion first hand
1130
Ronald Reagan once suggested to his Soviet counterpart Mikhail Gorbachev that the United States and the Soviet Union should work together in the event of an alien invasion.
“we know that he once suggested to his USSR counterpart, Mikhail Gorbachev, that the US and the USSR should work together in the event of an alien invasion.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:17452-17598 administrative first hand
1131
Language was inserted into the second COVID-19 relief bill stipulating that the Department of Defense (DoD) had to release a UAP report by the following summer, without requiring new spending since the DoD already had the data.
“We did in fact manage to insert language in the second Covid bill stipulating that the DoD had to release a UAP report by the following summer. Such a report would not require spending new dollars; DoD already had the data.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:18076-18294 administrative first hand
1132
Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, then chair of the US Senate Intelligence Committee, was the chief sponsor of the bill requiring a Department of Defense UAP report.
“Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, then chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, was the chief sponsor of the bill.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:18300-18410 administrative first hand
1133
Luis Elizondo, Christopher Mellon, and Jay Stratton decided to focus their congressional UAP messaging on growing risks to flight safety and the historic lack of transparency from the executive branch dating back to the 1940s, due to stigma and political risk.
“Due to the stigma and political risk politicians were concerned with, we decided to focus on the growing UAP risks to flight safety, as well as the historic lack of transparency from the executive branch, going back to the 1940s.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:1906-2129 administrative first hand
1134
The full UAP-reporting language inserted into the COVID-19 relief bill amounted to 422 words.
“The full language in the bill amounted to 422 words and was unprecedented.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:19560-19620 measurement first hand
1135
Not since the 1960s had the United States Congress instructed the Department of Defense to take action regarding UAP, let alone issue an unclassified report shareable with the American people and the world.
“Not since the 1960s had Congress instructed the DoD to take any action regarding UAP, let alone issue an *unclassified* report that could be shared with the American people and the world.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:19635-19816 administrative first hand
1136
Donald Trump signed the COVID-19 relief bill into law in late December 2020.
“President Trump signed the Covid bill into law in late December 2020.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:19824-19888 administrative first hand
1137
From the moment the UAP legislation became law, the Department of Defense (DoD) had six months to produce a report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), a subject it had largely ignored for seventy-five years.
“From the moment the bill became law, the DoD would have six months to crank out a report on a subject it had largely ignored for seventy-five years.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:20093-20235 administrative first hand
1138
Lue Elizondo was told that well over 20 million people watched the 60 Minutes UAP segment and that the number kept increasing.
“I was told well over 20 million people watched it and that the number keeps going up.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:21068-21150 hearsay second hand
1139
Lue Elizondo considers getting the Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena report published one of Christopher Mellon's greatest contributions to their overall Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) disclosure efforts.
“I regard this as one of Chris’s greatest contributions to our overall efforts and to history in general. It was his idea, he made it happen”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:22117-22250 opinion first hand
1140
Christopher Mellon was formerly deputy staff director of the US Senate Intelligence Committee.
“Being a former deputy staff director of the Senate Intelligence Committee himself”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:2289-2363 administrative first hand
1141
Lue Elizondo considers Frank Kendall III's demand for evidence of threat before addressing Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) a logical fallacy, reasoning that if you don't know what something is, you cannot dismiss it as not a threat.
“that struck me as a logical fallacy. If you don’t know what something is, how can you dismiss it as a threat?”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:23769-23871 opinion first hand
1142
When asked about Frank Kendall III's response to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) report, Lue Elizondo responded by reminding Kendall who he worked for and stating that the American people, not Kendall, decide what is a priority.
“Mr. Secretary, may I remind you who you work for? You don’t get to decide what is or is not a priority. The American people do.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:24075-24199 opinion first hand
1143
Lue Elizondo put out a public statement that the American people now knew that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are not secret US technology, do not seem to belong to any known allies or adversaries, and that intelligence services had yet to identify a terrestrial explanation for them.
“that these UAP are not secret US technology, that they do not seem to belong to any known allies or adversaries, and that our intelligence services have yet to identify a terrestrial explanation for these extraordinary vehicles.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:24553-24772 opinion first hand
1144
Few members of the United States Congress had any real previous understanding of the UAP issue and generally saw it as an odd nonissue for kooks and as politically risky.
“Unfortunately, few in Congress had any real previous understanding of the UAP issue and generally saw it as an odd “nonissue” for kooks and as politically risky.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:2463-2618 observation first hand
1145
Of the 144 Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) incidents in the Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena report, the UAP Task Force was only able to identify one.
“Out of 144 incidents, the UAP Task Force was only able to identify 1.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:24782-24849 measurement second hand
1146
In 2021-07, People (magazine) named Lue Elizondo one of the "100 Reasons to Love America," ranking him No. 62.
“In July 2021, I got a call from a friend telling me that People magazine named me one of the “100 Reasons to Love America.” They ranked me No. 62.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:24895-25040 hearsay third hand
1147
Republican senators Roy Blunt, Lindsey Graham, and Marco Rubio, and Democratic senators Kirsten Gillibrand and Martin Heinrich, and Democratic representative Ruben Gallego worked together, with assistance from Christopher Mellon and Lue Elizondo, to craft aggressive Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) language for the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).
“Republican senators Roy Blunt of Missouri, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, and Marco Rubio of Florida; Democratic senators Kirsten Gillibrand of New York and Martin Heinrich of Arizona; and Democratic representative Ruben Gallego of Arizona all worked together to craft aggressive language, with some help from Chris and me.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:25733-26056 administrative first hand
1148
The Legacy Program and its associates managed to block funding that the United States Congress had appropriated to the Pentagon's UAP Task Force.
“the powers that be, took their pushback to the next level and somehow managed to block the funding that had been appropriated to the UAP Task Force by Congress”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:26232-26383 testimony first hand
1149
Jay Stratton retired from government service after sixteen years investigating Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) for the US government, longer than anyone Lue Elizondo was aware of.
“after sixteen years of investigating UAP for the US government, longer than anyone I’m aware of, Jay decided it was time to retire and head to the private sector”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:26408-26563 testimony first hand
1150
Before Jay Stratton retired, he and Lue Elizondo worked with the United States Congress to propose new legislation creating a permanent Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) programme directly funded by Congress so its funding could not be blocked or misused.
“Before Jay retired, we worked with Congress to get new legislation proposed that would create a permanent UAP program directly funded by Congress, so no one could block or misuse the funding.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:26703-26886 administrative first hand
1151
Christopher Mellon and Lue Elizondo publicly stated that the Department of Defense (DoD)'s creation of the Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group (AOIMSG) was a con.
“I suspect a lot of people would have bought DoD’s gesture hook, line, and sinker if Chris Mellon and I did not spread the word that it was a con.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:27459-27627 opinion first hand
1152
The Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)) is the same organisation that had previously underplayed and tried to kill the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) and then the Pentagon's UAP Task Force.
“My old office, the OUSD(I), was precisely the same organization that had underplayed and tried to kill AATIP and then the UAP Task Force.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:27632-27763 opinion first hand
1153
Luis Elizondo and colleagues worked to bring forward credible eyewitnesses of UAP, specifically intelligence and military officers, to testify to the United States Congress.
“We relentlessly worked to uncover credible eyewitnesses of UAP, specifically intelligence and military officers, whom we could invite to share their testimony with senators, representatives, and various congressional committees.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:2888-3105 administrative first hand
1154
Many potential UAP witnesses would not speak to the United States Congress because of nondisclosure agreements they had signed with various intelligence agencies and branches of the military.
“For every witness we brought forward, there were several who wouldn’t speak to Congress due to the nondisclosure agreements they had signed with various intelligence agencies and branches of the military.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:3117-3312 observation first hand
1155
In 2021-11, GQ (magazine) in the United Kingdom named Lue Elizondo one of the heroes of 2021 for his impact on culture as a voice of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) disclosure effort.
“In November 2021 I was honored to find out that GQ magazine in the UK named me one of the heroes of 2021 for my impact on culture by being a voice of the disclosure effort.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:31370-31537 administrative second hand
1156
Harry Reid was an ally and champion of Lue Elizondo at the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), and stood up for Elizondo in the painful months after his resignation when the Department of Defense (DoD) was trying to erase and smear him.
“Former senator Harry Reid—who was our ally and champion at AATIP, who stood up for me in the painful months after my resignation when DoD was trying to erase and smear me”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:31976-32171 opinion first hand
1157
Harry Reid said he would keep fighting his cancer until President Joe Biden signed the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) legislation into law.
“Senator Reid said he would keep fighting his cancer until Biden signed the act.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:32656-32731 testimony second hand
1158
Harry Reid's wife Landra Reid and his assistant Katie provided support to Reid during his final illness.
“His wife, Landra, and loyal assistant, Katie, were angels of mercy during this time.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:32833-32912 opinion first hand
1159
Ronald Moultrie's acknowledgement under oath of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) at the May 2022 Congressional UAP hearing was regarded by Lue Elizondo as a silent victory, confirming the Pentagon acknowledged the existence of his old programme.
“This was a silent victory for me. At least now the Pentagon acknowledged the existence of my old program, AATIP, and its efforts focusing on UAP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:34047-34188 opinion first hand
1160
Lue Elizondo believes that had the Pentagon done even a cursory review of its own records, it would have realised that it had already written reports on the nuclear-facility Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) incursions.
“Had the Pentagon done even a cursory review of its own records, it would have realized that the Pentagon itself had written reports on these incursions.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:34656-34797 opinion first hand
1161
Witnesses who feared speaking to the United States Congress about UAP genuinely feared being sent to jail or killed.
“The witnesses we met with who were afraid to speak to Congress genuinely feared being sent to jail or killed.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:3555-3657 observation first hand
1162
Lue Elizondo considers the 2023 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) language to be Christopher Mellon's magnum opus.
“I contributed to the creation of the language and worked hard to get Congress members to help support it, but I must say this one was truly Chris’s magnum opus.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:35744-35899 opinion first hand
1163
Luis Elizondo went to meet with staffers who worked for a congressional representative at their invitation, to discuss Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“I was about to meet with staffers who worked for a congressional representative... I was here to talk about UAP at *their* invitation.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:361-474 observation first hand
1164
Lue Elizondo met with Harvard University students participating in seminars at the Galileo Project, a project charged with mapping ways to investigate life in the universe.
“I met with Harvard University students participating in seminars at the Galileo Project, which is charged with mapping ways to investigate life in the universe.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:37840-37991 testimony first hand
1165
Lue Elizondo spoke to an audience of young analysts and two-star generals representing the future of the American intelligence community at the National Intelligence University in Washington, DC.
“At the National Intelligence University in Washington, DC, I spoke to an elite audience of young analysts and two-star generals who represent the future of the American intelligence community.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:38047-38229 testimony first hand
1166
Various elements in government throughout 2022 sought face-to-face meetings with lawmakers to protest the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) whistleblower-reprisal legislation, arguing they must be able to prosecute whistleblowers and to have the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) pursue former employees who spoke out of line.
“various elements in government clamored for face-to-face meetings with lawmakers so they could vigorously protest the UAP whistleblower reprisal language. “We must be able to prosecute whistleblowers!” they argued. “We must be able to sic the FBI on former employees who talk out of line.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:39590-39875 hearsay second hand
1167
Garry Reid was reassigned to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) as a "special advisor".
“He was reassigned to DIA as a “special advisor.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:40073-40112 administrative first hand
1168
An inspector general investigation into alleged sexual harassment and other claims against Garry Reid had concluded.
“The long-running inspector general investigation into alleged sexual harassment and other claims against him had concluded.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:40122-40235 administrative first hand
1169
The DoD Office of Inspector General dismissed Luis Elizondo's whistleblower reprisal complaint against the United States Department of Defense (DoD).
“Shortly after Garry’s reassignment, the IG informed me that they had also dismissed my whistleblower reprisal complaint against the Defense Department.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:40590-40730 administrative first hand
1170
The DoD Office of Inspector General argued that Luis Elizondo retaining his security clearances was proof that no negative consequences had occurred to him.
“The fact that I’d been able to keep my security clearances, they argued, was proof that no negative consequences had occurred.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:40742-40859 administrative first hand
1171
Garry Reid was reassigned from the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)).
“they had reassigned Garry Reid from the OUSD(I)”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:40978-41023 administrative first hand
1172
During an in-person conversation, the DoD Office of Inspector General acknowledged to Luis Elizondo that what was done to him was incredibly wrong.
“Later, during an in-person conversation with the IG, they acknowledged that what was done to me was incredibly wrong.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:41081-41192 testimony first hand
1173
A Pentagon spokesperson confirmed to the media that Luis D. Elizondo provides technical advice on a variety of classified topics for the United States Space Force (USSF).
“A spokesperson confirmed to the media: “Mr. Elizondo provides technical advice on a variety of classified topics for the US Space Force.””
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:41447-41577 administrative second hand
1174
In July 2022, the United States Congress unanimously voted for inclusion of UAP legislation in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for fiscal year 2023.
“In July 2022, Congress unanimously voted for inclusion of the most historic UAP legislation written at that point in the National Defense Authorization Act for the fiscal year 2023.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:41961-42137 administrative first hand
1175
Luis Elizondo, Christopher Mellon, and Jay Stratton called their UAP advocacy plan the Five Pillars of Engagement.
“We called our plan the Five Pillars of Engagement.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:4202-4241 administrative first hand
1176
On 2022-12-15, the US Senate approved the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) with the UAP language and sent it to Joe Biden to sign.
“On December 15, 2022, the Senate approved the NDAA with the UAP language and sent it to Biden to sign.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:42359-42456 administrative first hand
1177
On 2022-12-23, President Joe Biden signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) containing UAP legislation into law.
“On December 23, 2022, President Biden signed the historic UAP legislation into law when he signed the NDAA.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:42634-42736 administrative first hand
1178
The UAP legislation language within the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is fifteen pages long.
“The UAP legislation language is fifteen pages and available online.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:42743-42803 administrative first hand
1179
The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation included protection for whistleblowers allowing them to legally break their non-disclosure agreements to speak confidentially with select members of the United States Congress in a classified setting without consequences.
“it included protection for whistleblowers so they can legally break their NDAs to speak confidentially with select members of Congress in a classified setting without consequences”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:43077-43244 administrative first hand
1180
The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation included acknowledgment of the capture, recovery, and reverse-engineering of UAP and required reporting on these matters to the United States Congress.
“acknowledgment of the capture, recovery, and reverse-engineering of UAP and action to cause reporting on these matters to Congress”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:43258-43407 administrative first hand
1181
The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation included acknowledgment of health issues caused by UAP and required reporting on these matters to the United States Congress.
“acknowledgment of health issues caused by UAP and action to cause reporting on these matters to Congress”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:43417-43513 administrative first hand
1182
The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation included acknowledgment of a Cold War-style race with other nations relating to UAP and required reporting on this to the United States Congress.
“acknowledgment of the Cold War race playing out with other nations and action to cause reporting on this to Congress”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:43523-43631 administrative first hand
1183
The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation established the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO).
“the establishment of the AARO”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:43641-43666 administrative first hand
1184
The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation required reporting to the United States Congress on all UAP activity since 1945-01-01, including a compilation and itemisation of key historical records of intelligence community involvement with unidentified anomalous phenomena.
“reporting to Congress on all UAP activity since January 1, 1945, including a compilation and itemization of the key historical records of the involvement of the intelligence community with unidentified anomalous phenomena”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:43676-43888 administrative first hand
1185
The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation required reporting to the United States Congress of any UAP-related program or activity protected by restricted access that had not been explicitly and clearly reported to Congress.
“any program or activity that was protected by restricted access that has not been explicitly and clearly reported to Congress”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:43899-44016 administrative first hand
1186
The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation covered successful or unsuccessful efforts to identify and track unidentified anomalous phenomena.
“successful or unsuccessful efforts to identify and track unidentified anomalous phenomena”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:44026-44106 administrative first hand
1187
The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation covered any efforts to obfuscate, manipulate public opinion, hide, or otherwise provide incorrect unclassified or classified information about unidentified anomalous phenomena or related activities.
“any efforts to obfuscate, manipulate public opinion, hide, or otherwise provide incorrect unclassified or classified information about unidentified anomalous phenomena or related activities”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:44121-44300 administrative first hand
1188
Jay Stratton and Luis Elizondo worked their network of friends in the US military branches, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and the United States Department of Energy.
“Meanwhile, Jay and I worked our network of friends in the military branches, FBI, CIA, and even the Department of Energy.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:4434-4548 administrative first hand
1189
Leadership in United States Navy intelligence tasked Jay Stratton with quietly building a whole-of-government interagency UAP task force with more authorities than the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) ever had.
“leadership in Navy intelligence, who understood the national security threats related to UAP and now felt public and congressional pressure to do something about it, tasked Jay with quietly building out a whole-of-government interagency task force, a program with more authorities than AATIP ever had.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:4612-4909 administrative first hand
1190
Jay Stratton handpicked members and representatives for the new UAP task force from all the intelligence agencies and civilian-led agencies, including the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), and the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).
“So Jay started putting that together, handpicking his members/reps from all the intelligence agencies and civilian-led agencies, from the FBI to the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) to NASA to the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:4914-5148 administrative first hand
1191
Harry Reid was a longtime benefactor of Luis Elizondo and Christopher Mellon's UAP advocacy efforts.
“such as our longtime benefactor, Senator Harry Reid”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:508-555 administrative first hand
1192
The interagency task force that Jay Stratton built went on to become the Pentagon's UAP Task Force.
“Once it was put together, this would go on to became the Pentagon’s UAP Task Force.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:5154-5231 administrative first hand
1193
The United States Space Force (USSF) did not yet have a UAP programme when Jay Stratton needed a representative from that organisation for the task force he was building.
“Jay needed a rep from Space Force (USSF), but that agency was still getting set up at the time and didn’t have a UAP program”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:5357-5474 administrative first hand
1194
Luis Elizondo started working as a contractor for the United States Space Force (USSF) to help build their UAP effort and support Jay Stratton's UAP Task Force.
“Soon after that, I started working as a contractor for USSF on the UAP front and getting their unofficial help behind the scenes on my public efforts while also contributing to Jay’s UAP Task Force.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:5830-6022 administrative first hand
1195
After a couple of years of Jay Stratton quietly building the task force, the United States Secretary of Defense announced the Pentagon's UAP Task Force and named Jay Stratton as its first director.
“After a couple of years of Jay quietly building the UAP Task Force behind the scenes, the secretary of defense announced the UAP Task Force and named Jay as its first director.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:6057-6224 administrative first hand
1196
From the moment the Pentagon's UAP Task Force became official, the Legacy Program started quietly pushing back on Jay Stratton and the task force, creating bureaucratic hurdles.
“From the moment the UAP Task Force became official, the Legacy Program started quietly pushing back on Jay, behind the scenes, creating one bureaucratic hurdle after another for him, the task force, and everyone involved.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:6381-6592 administrative first hand
1197
Christopher Mellon previously served as a senior staffer for Senator William Cohen.
“Chris leveraged the long list of friends he used to work with when he was a senior staffer for Senator Bill Cohen.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:6603-6711 administrative first hand
1198
Christopher Mellon was one of the founding authors and a champion of the bill that established the United States Special Operations Command (SOCOM).
“Back then, Chris was one of the founding authors and champion of the SOCOM bill, which established the United States Special Operations Command, charged with implementing key aspects of the missions of the various branches of the US military.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:6837-7070 administrative first hand
1199
Christopher Mellon knew the stretch of buildings on Capitol Hill where lawmakers kept their offices very well.
“He knew like the back of his hand this stretch of buildings where our lawmakers kept their offices.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:694-785 observation first hand
1200
Christopher Mellon had to fight long and hard against opponents of the SOCOM bill proposal, including certain commanders who thought a new Combatant Command was unnecessary.
“but back in the day Chris had to fight long and hard against the proposal’s opponents. Certain commanders thought they had everything already covered and didn’t take kindly to him fiddling with the status quo.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:7144-7349 administrative first hand
1201
Someone called Christopher Mellon a traitor for proposing the SOCOM bill and tried to weaponise the media against him.
“At its worst, someone called Chris a traitor for making such a proposal and tried to weaponize the media against him.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:7535-7648 administrative first hand
1202
Before their first trip to Washington DC, Christopher Mellon coached Luis Elizondo on ground rules, stating that they were not lobbyists because they would not ask Congress for anything.
“Before we headed to DC on this first trip, he coached me on the ground rules. We were not *lobbyists*. That word meant one who cultivated political relationships with the expectation of results favorable to one’s industry. In contrast, we would not ask for anything.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:7841-8099 testimony first hand
1203
Christopher Mellon and Luis Elizondo remained close after Elizondo briefed Mellon.
“Mellon and I remained close from the day I briefed him.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:795-846 administrative first hand
1204
Christopher Mellon proposed having one of the congressional oversight committees request an unclassified public report on UAP from the Director of National Intelligence, as a way to advance UAP transparency without requiring public funds or Appropriations Committee support.
“Chris, who had served for over a decade on Capitol Hill, proposed a simple but brilliant solution: have one of the oversight committees request an unclassified public report on UAP from the Director of National Intelligence.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:9204-9415 administrative first hand
1205
Christopher Mellon drafted a version of the UAP report requirement and posted it online.
“and even drafted a version of the report requirement, which he posted online for all of us to see.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:9717-9811 administrative first hand
1206
Christopher Mellon grew up fascinated by the possibility of extraterrestrial life, based on a personal experience which he rarely shared.
“Chris had grown up fascinated by the possibility of extraterrestrial life, based upon a personal experience which he rarely shared”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:973-1097 administrative first hand
1207
Luis Elizondo stood at the entrance of the Longworth House Office Building in Washington DC, described as a gleaming structure of marble and limestone rising just south of the US Capitol.
“I stood at the entrance of the Longworth House Office Building in Washington, DC, a gleaming structure of marble and limestone rising just south of the Capitol.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:98-250 observation first hand
1208
David Grusch helped contribute to the Pentagon's UAP Task Force.
“helped contribute to the UAP Task Force as well”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:1025-1068 administrative first hand
1209
David Grusch told the United States Congress and an inspector general what he knew about the Legacy Program.
“Not only did Dave tell Congress and the inspector general what he knew about the Legacy Program”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:1074-1162 administrative first hand
1210
David Grusch gave a series of public interviews about what he knew about the Legacy Program.
“he also went public and did a series of interviews telling the world what he knew”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:1175-1252 administrative first hand
1211
Luis Elizondo's father passed away in his sleep on Father's Day 2023, the day before Luis Elizondo's birthday, shortly after Elizondo learned David Grusch was going public.
“Shortly after learning David was going public, I received the heartbreaking news that my father had passed away in his sleep. It was Father's Day, the day before my birthday.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:1742-1907 testimony first hand
1212
In July 2023, members of the United States Congress held a bipartisan hearing on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) at which Commander Dave Fravor, Lieutenant Ryan Graves, and David Grusch testified under oath.
“members of Congress held another historic bipartisan UAP hearing. This time the hearing had highly credible military witnesses, Commander Fravor, Lieutenant Graves, and Dave Grusch, who were now testifying to the American people in Congress *under oath*”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:2345-2593 administrative first hand
1213
In early 2023, the Pentagon released a new public report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) activity.
“The year started with a new public report on UAP activity released by the Pentagon”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:243-317 administrative second hand
1214
Information was provided to a journalist that tried to portray David Grusch as unreliable in a story using anonymous sources.
“Information was provided to a journalist that tried to paint David as unreliable in a story that used anonymous sources to smear a decorated combat veteran”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:3476-3624 testimony first hand
1215
David Grusch is a decorated combat veteran.
“to smear a decorated combat veteran”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:3596-3624 administrative first hand
1216
Following the July 2023 Congressional UAP hearing, the United States Congress became more determined to investigate the UAP issue and uncover the truth about the hidden programme.
“following that hearing, Congress was more determined than ever to get to the bottom of the UAP issue and uncover the truth about the hidden program”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:3839-3979 observation first hand
1217
In the summer of 2023, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, Senator Mike Rounds, Senator Marco Rubio, and Senator Kirsten Gillibrand sponsored the UAP Disclosure Act.
“In the summer of 2023, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York, Senator Mike Rounds of South Dakota, Senator Rubio, and Senator Gillibrand sponsored the most historic UAP legislation yet, the UAP Disclosure Act”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:3989-4205 administrative first hand
1218
The UAP Disclosure Act shows the United States Congress is aware of the Legacy Program's possession of nonhuman bodies and advanced technology not made on Earth or by human beings.
“This historic legislation proves that Congress is aware of the Legacy Program's possession of nonhuman bodies and advanced technology not made here on earth and not made by human beings”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:4211-4390 opinion first hand
1219
The UAP Disclosure Act proposed that the US government be able to exercise eminent domain over biological evidence of nonhuman intelligence (NHI) and any recovered technology of nonhuman origin held by any element of the government or defence contractors.
“It proposed that the US government be able to exercise eminent domain over biological evidence of nonhuman intelligence and any type of recovered technology of nonhuman origin that is in the possession of any element of the government or defense contractors”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:4529-4775 administrative first hand
1220
The UAP Disclosure Act creates a review board that answers directly to the president to create a roadmap for controlled disclosure to the American people.
“Another aspect of this legislation creates a review board that answers directly to the president in order to create a road map for controlled disclosure to the American people”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:4789-4958 administrative first hand
1221
The language of the UAP Disclosure Act is a direct result of whistleblowers briefing members of the United States Congress and their staff at the classified level, and under oath, about nonhuman intelligence (NHI) and the Legacy Program's efforts to capture, collect, and reverse-engineer nonhuman-origin vehicles and, in some cases, nonhuman specimens.
“The language in this historic piece of legislation is a direct result of whistleblowers briefing members of Congress and their staff at the classified level and even under oath about the reality of nonhuman intelligence and the Legacy Program's efforts to capture, collect, and reverse-engineer these vehicles of nonhuman origin and, in some cases, collect nonhuman specimens”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:4967-5333 opinion first hand
1222
New UAP whistleblower legislation led to more military and intelligence witnesses coming forward about a hidden programme to capture, reverse-engineer, and exploit Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“the new UAP whistleblower legislation led to even more credible military and intelligence witnesses coming forward and telling the world what they knew about the deeply hidden program to capture, reverse-engineer, and exploit UAP”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:511-737 observation first hand
1223
Throughout the fall of 2023, Senate leadership requested Luis Elizondo's help in clarifying facts as they sharpened the language of the UAP Disclosure Act.
“Throughout the fall of 2023, Senate leadership requested my help giving them clarity on the facts as they fought for and sharpened the language in the UAP Disclosure Act”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:6163-6329 testimony first hand
1224
Luis Elizondo made multiple trips from his home to Washington DC and spent many hours in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) with US Senate leaders regarding the UAP Disclosure Act.
“I quietly made multiple trips from my home to DC, where I logged many hours alone in a SCIF with our nation's leaders”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:6334-6444 testimony first hand
1225
Congressman Mike Turner is supported by defence contractors involved in the Legacy Program.
“Congressman Mike Turner, who is very much supported by the defense contractors involved in the Legacy Program”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:6791-6893 opinion first hand
1226
Congressman Mike Turner fought against the UAP Disclosure Act and stopped much of what the act tried to make law.
“fought against the UAP Disclosure Act and killed much of what the act tried to make law”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:6902-6986 administrative first hand
1227
Senators Chuck Schumer and Mike Rounds fought for the UAP Disclosure Act to be passed with some historic wins.
“Senators Schumer and Rounds fought for the act to get passed with some historic wins”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:6999-7079 administrative first hand
1228
In late December 2023, President Joe Biden signed the UAP Disclosure Act into law.
“in late December 2023 Biden signed it into law”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:7089-7132 administrative first hand
1229
The UAP Disclosure Act pulls the funding of any activity involving UAP that has not been approved by the appropriate congressional committees.
“the new law pulls the funding of any activity involving UAP that has not been approved by the appropriate committees”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:7152-7258 administrative first hand
1230
The UAP Disclosure Act makes it illegal for the Legacy Program or anyone to use taxpayer money for UAP-related matters unless approved by the United States Congress.
“it makes it very illegal for the Legacy Program or anyone to use taxpayers' money for UAP-related matters unless it's been approved by Congress”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:7282-7417 opinion first hand
1231
The UAP Disclosure Act directs the National Archives to collect government documents about unidentified anomalous phenomena, technologies of unknown origin, and nonhuman intelligence (NHI).
“The new law also directs the National Archives to collect government documents about "unidentified anomalous phenomena, technologies of unknown origin, and nonhuman intelligence."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:7492-7657 administrative first hand
1232
The UAP Disclosure Act requires any UAP-related records not already disclosed to be made public within twenty-five years of their creation, unless the president determines they must remain classified for national security reasons.
“Any UAP-related records not already disclosed must be made public within twenty-five years of their creation, unless the president determines that they must remain classified for national security reasons”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:7672-7896 administrative first hand
1233
The proposal for a presidential review board in the UAP Disclosure Act was removed before the act was passed.
“But the proposal for a presidential review board was killed”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:7905-7958 administrative first hand
1234
David Grusch was a National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) employee.
“David was a National Reconnaissance Office employee”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:813-856 administrative first hand
1235
David Grusch worked for the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA).
“worked for the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA)”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:869-925 administrative first hand
1236
David Grusch was the representative of the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) and National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) on the Pentagon's UAP Task Force.
“He was those agencies' rep on the UAP Task Force”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:931-974 administrative first hand
1237
David Grusch worked with Luis Elizondo at United States Space Force (USSF).
“Dave also worked with me at Space Force”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:981-1015 administrative first hand
1238
Lue Elizondo lives near Devils Tower, Wyoming, and takes visitors on hikes around it.
“When visitors make their way out to my remote part of the world, I enjoy taking them on a hike around Devils Tower”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch33:98-207 observation first hand
1239
In 2017, Luis Elizondo transferred his Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) responsibilities to Neill Tipton by email.
“Email between Neill Tipton and me, transferring my AATIP responsibilities to Neill in 2017, several years after the Pentagon claimed that AATIP had ended and that I had no involvement in AATIP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:1760-1947 administrative first hand
1240
The Department of Defense (DoD) claimed several years after 2017 that the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) had ended and that Luis Elizondo had no involvement in it.
“several years after the Pentagon claimed that AATIP had ended and that I had no involvement in AATIP”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:1852-1947 hearsay second hand
1241
Until May 2024, the Department of Defense (DoD) had asserted that all of Luis Elizondo's emails had been deleted.
“Until May 2024, the Pentagon had asserted all of my emails had been deleted, but this email was finally released after a FOIA appeal was won.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:1954-2091 hearsay second hand
1242
An email between Neill Tipton and Luis Elizondo, released after a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) appeal, was finally released after Luis Elizondo won a FOIA appeal.
“this email was finally released after a FOIA appeal was won”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:2035-2091 administrative first hand
1243
An email between Neill Tipton and Luis Elizondo indicated Secretary of Defense Front Office knowledge and approval for the transfer of Luis Elizondo's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) authorities to Neill Tipton.
“Email between Neill and me, indicating Secretary of Defense Front Office knowledge and approval for the transfer of my AATIP authorities over to Neill.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:2146-2291 administrative first hand
1244
Luis Elizondo exchanged an email with another individual in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), coordinating a meeting with Neill Tipton to discuss the transfer of AATIP responsibilities.
“Email between me and another individual in AATIP, coordinating a meeting with Neill to discuss the transfer of AATIP responsibilities.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:2339-2456 administrative first hand
1245
Luis Elizondo wrote an official resignation memo to the Secretary of Defense, James Mattis, highlighting the urgent need to address the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue as it relates to US national security and nuclear weapons and technology.
“My official resignation memo to the Secretary of Defense, highlighting the urgent need to address the UAP issue as it relates to US national security and our nuclear weapons and technology.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:2515-2693 administrative first hand
1246
Former Senate Majority Leader and Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) sponsor Harry Reid wrote an official letter that countered later claims made by the Department of Defense (DoD) that Luis Elizondo had no part in AATIP.
“Official letter from former Senate Majority Leader and AATIP sponsor Harry Reid. This letter counters the later claims made by the Pentagon that I had no part in AATIP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:2746-2908 administrative first hand
1247
In late 2001, Lue Elizondo deployed to Afghanistan, leaving behind his wife and two small children.
“Day of deployment to Afghanistan in late 2001. Family members joined to say goodbye to their loved ones. The smiles hide the real pain of leaving my wife and two small children behind.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:1011-1188 administrative first hand
1248
As part of Task Force Dagger, Lue Elizondo met Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Director Robert Mueller in Kandahar, Afghanistan.
“With FBI Director Robert Mueller in Kandahar. As part of Task Force Dagger, the FBI was one of many US organizations we worked with to locate terrorist cells operating in the area.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:1206-1381 administrative first hand
1249
Task Force Dagger worked with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and other United States organisations to locate terrorist cells operating in Afghanistan.
“As part of Task Force Dagger, the FBI was one of many US organizations we worked with to locate terrorist cells operating in the area.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:1252-1381 administrative first hand
1250
James Clapper was Lue Elizondo's boss at the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)).
“With my old boss at the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)), Gen. James Clapper, at the CNN Newsroom in 2017”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:1397-1532 administrative first hand
1251
James Clapper told Lue Elizondo he was surprised to learn the Pentagon had admitted it had a UAP programme.
“He told me he was surprised to learn the Pentagon had admitted it had a UAP program.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:1586-1662 testimony second hand
1252
Around 2014, Lue Elizondo worked on a programme at Guantanamo Bay for the White House and National Security Council.
“At Guantanamo Bay circa 2014, working another program for the White House and National Security Council.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:1681-1777 administrative first hand
1253
John Robert and James Farabee are Lue Elizondo's two best friends.
“My two best friends in the world, John Robert (left) and James Farabee (middle), in 2022. My foxhole buddies.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:1796-1897 administrative first hand
1254
Luis D. Elizondo III is Lue Elizondo's father.
“My father, Luis Elizondo, Sr., with me circa 1976.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:183-228 administrative first hand
1255
Harold Puthoff and Eric Davis are among the world's premier scientists.
“With two of the world's premier scientists, Hal Puthoff (left) and Eric Davis (right), at EarthTech Headquarters.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:1916-2016 opinion first hand
1256
Harold Puthoff and Eric Davis were essential to Lue Elizondo's understanding of how Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operate.
“They were essential to our understanding of how UAPs operate.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:2030-2083 opinion first hand
1257
During the 2018 Italy filming trip, Lue Elizondo met individuals in the Italian military and special operations community who had witnessed and investigated many Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) incidents.
“We met individuals in the Italian military and special operations community who had witnessed and investigated many UAP incidents for themselves.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:3039-3173 testimony first hand
1258
During his Argentina visit, Lue Elizondo met fighter pilots who had encountered Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and had tried to shoot one down.
“I also met fighter pilots who encountered UAP and even tried to shoot one down.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:3394-3468 testimony first hand
1259
In 2023, Lue Elizondo made one of many trips to Capitol Hill with Christopher Mellon.
“With Chris Mellon, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, in 2023 during one of our many trips to Capitol Hill.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:3484-3614 administrative first hand
1260
In 2024, Lue Elizondo visited Congress at the Capitol.
“At the Capitol visiting members of Congress in 2024.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:3857-3904 administrative first hand
1261
Around 1978, Lue Elizondo's father taught him to fly a Cessna.
“My father would take me flying when I was quite young. Here I'm learning to fly a Cessna around 1978.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:547-643 administrative first hand
1262
At about age eight, Lue Elizondo fired an Israeli Galil assault rifle in the Florida Everglades.
“In the Florida Everglades shooting on an Israeli Galil automatic assault rifle, about age eight.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:659-749 administrative first hand
1263
Janise Elizondo is Luis Elizondo's mother.
“My mother, Janise Elizondo, in the early 1970s, sitting in the restaurant of a hotel my father managed.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:69-164 administrative first hand
1264
Lue Elizondo participated in JROTC in ninth grade in Sarasota, Florida.
“JROTC in ninth grade, Sarasota, Florida. The blue beret signified a member of the "Cannoneers."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:766-849 administrative first hand
1265
Lue Elizondo underwent United States Army basic training in 1995.
“US Army basic training, 1995.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:872-896 administrative first hand
1266
Lue Elizondo took part in a training exercise in South Korea during a period of heightened tensions with North Korea.
“Training exercise in South Korea, during an era of heightened tensions with North Korea.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:912-994 administrative first hand
1267
In the early 1970s, Luis D. Elizondo III managed a hotel with a restaurant.
“in the early 1970s, sitting in the restaurant of a hotel my father managed.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:97-164 administrative first hand
1268
Prior to leading the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), Luis Elizondo oversaw counterespionage and counterterrorism investigations worldwide for the United States Department of Defense (DoD).
“Prior to AATIP, Elizondo oversaw counterespionage and counterterrorism investigations worldwide for the Department of Defense”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch38:267-385 administrative
1269
Luis Elizondo worked for the Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive (ONCIX).
“also worked for the Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch38:398-514 administrative
1270
Luis Elizondo worked for the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI).
“also worked for the Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch38:398-514 administrative
1271
Luis Elizondo is a United States Army veteran.
“Elizondo is a proud Army veteran”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch38:528-553 administrative
1272
Luis Elizondo served in South Korea during his military and government career.
“later served his country throughout the world, including South Korea, Latin America, the Caribbean, Afghanistan, and other countries in the Middle East”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch38:565-712 administrative
1273
Luis Elizondo served in Afghanistan during his military and government career.
“later served his country throughout the world, including South Korea, Latin America, the Caribbean, Afghanistan, and other countries in the Middle East”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch38:565-712 administrative
1274
Luis Elizondo is the former head of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the Pentagon unit that researched Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), now known as Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“LUIS “LUE” ELIZONDO is the former head of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the Pentagon unit that researched UFOs, now known as unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP).”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch38:68-261 administrative
1275
Luis Elizondo is a graduate of the University of Miami, where he studied microbiology and immunology.
“Elizondo is a graduate of the University of Miami, where he studied microbiology and immunology.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch38:718-803 administrative
1276
Christopher Mellon first met Lue Elizondo at a closed-door Pentagon meeting in early 2017.
“When I first met Lue at a closed-door Pentagon meeting early in 2017...”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:1234-1298 administrative first hand
1277
Lue Elizondo resigned his position on the staff of the Secretary of Defense in late 2017.
“until late in 2017, when Lue resigned his position on the staff of the secretary of defense...”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:1888-1972 administrative
1278
Lue Elizondo called the successor initiative to the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“what remained of Senator Reid’s inspired effort was a successor initiative Lue called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:19074-19214 administrative second hand
1279
Christopher Mellon worked directly with the plan to help Luis Elizondo get an audience with the Secretary of Defense.
“my first instinct was to work through the chain of command...getting him an audience with the secretary of defense”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:20147-20198 testimony first hand
1280
Luis Elizondo resigned in protest from the Department of Defense (DoD) to draw attention to intrusions of unmarked aircraft into US airspace.
“the extreme step of resigning in protest to draw attention to these alarming intrusions”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:20815-20888 testimony first hand
1281
Christopher Mellon and Luis Elizondo discussed a plan to bring the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue before the United States Congress and the American people in the event Luis Elizondo resigned.
“We also discussed a plan I developed to get the issue before Congress and the American people in the event Lue resigned”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:21052-21163 testimony first hand
1282
After Luis Elizondo resigned in protest, Christopher Mellon and Luis Elizondo launched an effort to bring information about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) to the United States Congress, the press, and the American people.
“we immediately launched a concerted effort to get him and this critical information about UAP to Congress, the press, and the American people”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:21358-21493 testimony first hand
1283
Christopher Mellon considers Luis Elizondo's persistence and courage responsible for the US government no longer denying the existence of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“absent Lue's persistence and courage, the US government would still be denying the existence of UAP and failing to investigate a phenomenon that may well prove to be the greatest discovery in history”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:24027-24219 opinion first hand
1284
Lue Elizondo played a central and indispensable role in changing the way humanity views the issue of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).
“I can say without fear of contradiction that Lue has played a central and indispensable role in forever changing the way humanity views the issue of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP).”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:530-713 opinion first hand
1285
Jim Semivan, a mutual friend of Christopher Mellon from the CIA, brought Lue Elizondo to Christopher Mellon's attention.
“A mutual friend from the CIA, Jim Semivan, brought Lue to my attention.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:5503-5564 administrative first hand
1286
Christopher Mellon and Lue Elizondo met in Lue Elizondo's Pentagon office.
“we were finally able to meet in Lue’s Pentagon office.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:5712-5759 administrative first hand
1287
Lue Elizondo arranged for Christopher Mellon to participate in official debriefings with Dave Fravor, Alex Dietrich, and other US Navy personnel who had seen UAP up close or on military sensor systems.
“he later arranged for me to participate in official debriefings with Commander Fravor, Lieutenant Alex Dietrich, and other Navy personnel who had seen UAP up close or on military sensor systems.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:9189-9375 administrative first hand
1288
Luis Elizondo believes humanity is not the only intelligent life in the universe and not the alpha species.
“Humanity is in fact *not* the only intelligent life in the universe, and *not* the alpha species.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:1031-1120 opinion first hand
1289
Luis Elizondo considers the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and the nonhuman intelligence (NHI) controlling them a very serious national security issue and possibly an existential threat to humanity.
“UAP, and the nonhuman intelligence controlling them, present at best a very serious national security issue, and at worst the possibility of an existential threat to humanity.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:1225-1391 opinion first hand
1290
Luis Elizondo began a new job at the Pentagon in late 2008 after several tours with other US intelligence agencies.
“In late 2008, I began a new job over at the Pentagon after several tours with other US intelligence agencies.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:166-266 testimony first hand
1291
Luis Elizondo and his colleagues gained insight over time into how Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operate and into the intentions of the nonhuman intelligence (NHI) behind them.
“Over time, my colleagues and I gained insight into *how* these mysterious UAP operate, and into the intentions of the nonhuman intelligence behind them.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:1901-2048 testimony first hand
1292
Luis Elizondo believes the United States government and other major governments have decided their citizens do not have a right to know that humanity is not the only intelligent life in the universe.
“The United States government and other major governments have decided its citizens do not have a right to know, but I could not disagree more.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:2262-2399 opinion first hand
1293
Luis Elizondo was recruited into a highly sensitive US intelligence programme investigating Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), also known as UFOs.
“my life changed forever when I was recruited into a strange and highly sensitive US intelligence program... The program investigated the global mystery that is "unidentified anomalous phenomena," or UAP for short, also known to many as UFOs.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:296-567 testimony first hand
1294
Luis Elizondo spent nearly a decade working on the US intelligence programme investigating Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).
“For nearly a decade, I found myself on the front lines of the biggest paradigm shift in human history”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:573-667 testimony first hand
1295
Luis Elizondo considers unidentified craft to have beyond-next-generation technology.
“Unidentified craft with beyond-next-generation technology”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:730-777 opinion first hand
1296
Luis Elizondo considers unidentified craft able to move in ways that defy known physics.
“including the ability to move in ways that defy our knowledge of physics”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:788-853 opinion first hand
1297
Luis Elizondo considers unidentified craft capable of operating within air, water, and space.
“to do so within air, water, and space”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:865-897 opinion first hand
1298
Luis Elizondo considers unidentified craft to have been operating with complete impunity all over the world since at least World War II.
“have been operating with complete impunity all over the world since at least World War II”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:903-990 opinion first hand
1299
Luis Elizondo believes the unidentified craft investigated by the programme are not made by humans.
“These craft are not made by humans.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:995-1023 opinion first hand
1300
Luis Elizondo managed Special Access Programs (SAPs) for the National Security Council (NSC) and the White House.
“Eventually, I managed Special Access Programs (SAPs) for the National Security Council (NSC) and the White House.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:1143-1250 administrative first hand
1301
Luis Elizondo joined the United States Army in his twenties and was recruited into various sensitive programs in military intelligence.
“In my twenties, I joined the US Army and was recruited into various sensitive programs in military intelligence.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:115-214 administrative first hand
1302
In 2008, Luis Elizondo returned to a job at the United States Department of Defense.
“Finally, in 2008, I returned to a job at the Department of Defense.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:1258-1317 administrative first hand
1303
Luis Elizondo's friend John Robert served with him in South Korea in the 1990s.
“We have been friends since serving together in Korea in the 1990s.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:12986-13046 administrative first hand
1304
John Robert lived on Kent Island, Maryland, and carpooled with Luis Elizondo.
“He and his family also lived on Kent Island, and so we carpooled every day.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:13112-13183 administrative first hand
1305
Luis Elizondo worked for the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)), focused on an information-sharing operation between the Department of Defense, the Department of Homeland Security, and state, local, and tribal law enforcement authorities.
“While in that assignment, I worked for the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)), focused on an information-sharing operation between the DoD, DHS, and state, local, and tribal law enforcement authorities.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:1326-1548 administrative first hand
1306
John Robert worked in intelligence for a US government agency after leaving the Army, and acted as a liaison between that agency and the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program.
“John revealed to me that he was a liaison between the three-letter agency he worked for and AAWSAP.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:14419-14511 testimony second hand
1307
Luis Elizondo had previously deployed to Afghanistan, Iraq, Kuwait, and South Korea in his career.
“In my previous jobs, I had been everywhere on the planet where the US engaged its enemies. Afghanistan. Iraq. Kuwait. South Korea.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:15185-15309 administrative first hand
1308
Luis Elizondo attained the GS-15 pay grade, the most senior civilian rank at the Pentagon before reaching the Senior Executive Service (SES) or a political appointment.
“By now, I had finally attained the coveted GS-15 pay level—the most senior rank a civilian could attain working for the Pentagon before reaching the Senior Executive Service (SES) or a political appointment.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:15854-16049 administrative first hand
1309
Luis Elizondo had an office in a building in Arlington, Virginia that the Pentagon rented, which also housed departments of Boeing Aerospace, including Boeing Phantom Works.
“At the time, I had a large corner office in a building the Pentagon rented in {{redacted: ~3 words}} {{redacted: ~2 words}} Arlington, Virginia. Among other things, the building housed various departments of Boeing Aerospace, including Phantom Works, the division that is charged with dreaming up Boeing's future tech.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:1871-2184 administrative first hand
1310
James Lacatski formally asked Luis Elizondo to handle counterintelligence and security for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program.
“In this second meeting, Jim Lacatski formally asked me to handle counterintelligence and security for the program.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:19326-19432 administrative first hand
1311
Luis Elizondo worked in an office in Crystal City, Virginia, when he accepted the role handling counterintelligence and security for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program.
“When I got back to my office in Crystal City, I phoned Jim over our secure line and accepted the role: "Count me in."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:19736-19849 administrative first hand
1312
Luis Elizondo's eleventh-floor corner office looked out at the Pentagon, with the Capitol, the Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Monument, and the White House visible in the distance.
“My eleventh-floor corner office looked out at the Pentagon. In the distance I saw the Capitol, the Lincoln Memorial, the Washington Monument, and the White House.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:2191-2347 observation first hand
1313
Luis Elizondo completed three combat tours in Afghanistan and the Middle East.
“Later in my career, I did three combat tours in Afghanistan and the Middle East and went on to work all over the world with America's most elite special operations and intelligence units.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:228-409 administrative first hand
1314
Luis Elizondo and his family lived on Kent Island, Maryland, a small fishing community in the middle of Chesapeake Bay.
“My family and I lived on Kent Island, Maryland, a small fishing community in the middle of Chesapeake Bay.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:2418-2520 administrative first hand
1315
Luis Elizondo was born in Texas.
“I entered the world in Texas, but I'm a Florida boy at heart, long drawn to the mysteries and beauty of the sea.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:2526-2634 administrative first hand
1316
Luis Elizondo's wife is Jennifer.
“My wife, Jennifer, and I tried to be on the water every weekend, if we could swing it.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:2732-2815 administrative first hand
1317
Early in 2009, Jay Stratton and a colleague referred to as Rosemary Caine visited Luis Elizondo at his office to recruit him.
“had two guests waiting for me in our reception area. It was early 2009.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:3705-3771 administrative first hand
1318
Rosemary Caine spoke fluent Russian and was a former intelligence case officer.
“Only later would I learn that she also spoke fluent Russian and was a former intelligence case officer.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:4876-4971 administrative first hand
1319
Jay Stratton and Rosemary Caine wore blue government intelligence credentials around their necks.
“The blue credentials around their necks were the giveaway that they were both government intelligence officials.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:5911-6013 observation first hand
1320
As an operations officer and senior intelligence officer, Luis Elizondo ran intelligence efforts against ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, the Taliban, and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC).
“I ran intelligence efforts against enemies including ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, the Taliban, and the FARC.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:612-713 administrative first hand
1321
Jay Stratton and Rosemary Caine recruited Luis Elizondo for his counterintelligence and security experience, for a highly classified program led out of their office at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).
“"We are interested in your counterintelligence and security experience for a highly classified program led out of our office at DIA."”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:6367-6494 testimony first hand
1322
Luis Elizondo led classified investigations worldwide with partners including the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and the United States Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
“I led classified investigations worldwide with partners that included the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:719-912 administrative first hand
1323
Luis Elizondo met James Lacatski at a government office building on the tenth floor in Virginia.
“Finally, in a glass office space along the far wall, I met Dr. James Lacatski.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:9093-9162 observation first hand
1324
James Lacatski holds a doctorate in engineering and was one of the government's top rocket scientists.
“He was a bona fide rocket scientist, with a doctorate in engineering, and looked every bit the part... I later learned that he was one of our government's top rocket scientists.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:9173-9366 administrative first hand
1325
Luis Elizondo worked within the United States Department of Defense (DoD), the Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive (ONCIX), the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), and the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD).
“I worked within the Department of Defense (DoD), the Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive (ONCIX), the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI), and the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD).”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:918-1137 administrative first hand
1326
James Lacatski told Luis Elizondo that the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program worked on sensitive aviation technology and needed a senior counterintelligence agent to protect intel about the program from foreign adversaries.
“In a calm voice, he told me AAWSAP worked on sensitive aviation technology and needed a senior counterintelligence agent to lock down all intel about the program from the usual antagonists, foreign adversaries.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:9565-9763 testimony first hand
1327
As Jay Stratton interviewed witnesses to the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter, some people did not want to talk, including some who had retired and entered civilian life, and even those who spoke asked Jay Stratton not to reveal their identities.
“As Jay interviewed these witnesses, he encountered instances where people just didn’t want to talk. ... Even those who had retired and entered civilian life still chose not to go on the record. If they did, they asked Jay not to reveal their identities.”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 p78-79 observation second hand
1328
Luis Elizondo is the former head of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) at the Pentagon.
“the former head of the pentagon's advanced aerospace threat identification program or a tip”
The Clearest Video of a Tic Tac UAP! - DEBRIEFED ep. 6 2024-09-13 00:02:16.7-00:02:21.2 administrative
1329
Luis Elizondo alluded to something called angel hair, in which metallic spherical orbs shed their outer layer.
“Lou had sort of alluded to something called angel hair. He said that these orbs, these metallic spheres, would shed their outer layer.”
Journalist Leaked UAP Program "Immaculate Constellation" - DEBRIEFED ep. 10 2024-10-18 00:17:59.9-00:18:09.3 testimony second hand
1330
Luis Elizondo worked at the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) at the United States Department of Defense (Pentagon).
“he did work at ATIP, All Domain Anomaly Threat Identification Program at the Pentagon.”
Journalist Leaked UAP Program "Immaculate Constellation" - DEBRIEFED ep. 10 2024-10-18 00:18:11.9-00:18:18.8 administrative first hand
1331
UAP that shed angel hair leave behind a type of metamaterial.
“He also mentioned that by doing this, they leave behind some type of meta material.”
Journalist Leaked UAP Program "Immaculate Constellation" - DEBRIEFED ep. 10 2024-10-18 00:19:07.4-00:19:11.1 hearsay second hand
1332
Luis Elizondo considers that some adversaries of the United States are in possession of UAP technologies.
“as are some of our adversaries”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:1036-1055 opinion first hand
1333
Luis Elizondo believes a multi-decade, secretive arms race is underway, funded by misallocated taxpayer dollars and hidden from elected representatives and oversight bodies.
“I believe we are in the midst of a multi-decade, secretive arms race - one funded by misallocated taxpayer dollars and hidden from our elected representatives and oversight bodies.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:1068-1241 opinion first hand
1334
For many years, Luis Elizondo was entrusted with protecting some of the United States' most sensitive government programmes.
“For many years, I was entrusted with protecting some of our nation's most sensitive programs.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:1250-1334 administrative first hand
1335
In his last government position, Luis Elizondo managed a Special Access Program on behalf of the White House and the National Security Council.
“In my last position, I managed a Special Access Program on behalf of the White House and the National Security Council.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:1344-1455 administrative first hand
1336
Over the last decade and a half, Luis Elizondo learned that certain UAP programmes were operating without a watchful Congress, a responsive Executive Branch, or an informed public.
“Over the last decade and a half, I learned that certain UAP programs were, and are, operating without any of these elements.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2036-2151 testimony first hand
1337
Much of Luis Elizondo's government work on the subject of UAP remains classified.
“Although much of my Government work on the UAP subject still remains classified”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2162-2231 administrative first hand
1338
Luis Elizondo considers that excessive secrecy around UAP has led to grave misdeeds against loyal civil servants, military personnel, and the public in order to hide the fact that humanity is not alone in the cosmos.
“excessive secrecy has led to grave misdeeds against loyal civil servants, military personnel, and the public - all to hide the fact that we are not alone in the cosmos”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2243-2404 opinion first hand
1339
Luis Elizondo states that a small cadre within the United States Government involved in the UAP topic has created a culture of suppression and intimidation, of which he has personally been a victim.
“A small cadre within our own Government involved in the UAP topic has created a culture of suppression and intimidation that I have personally been victim to, along with many of my former colleagues.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2413-2601 testimony first hand
1340
Luis Elizondo states that many of his former colleagues have also been victims of the culture of suppression and intimidation he describes within the United States Government's handling of the UAP topic.
“along with many of my former colleagues”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2572-2601 testimony first hand
1341
Luis Elizondo states that this culture of suppression around UAP includes unwarranted criminal investigations, harassment, and efforts to destroy the credibility of those affected.
“This includes unwarranted criminal investigations, harassment, and efforts to destroy one's credibility.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2613-2705 testimony first hand
1342
The Pentagon Public Affairs Office employs a professional psychological operations officer as the sole point of contact for any UAP-related inquiries from citizens and the media.
“the Pentagon's very own Public Affairs Office openly employs a professional psychological operations officer as the singular point of contact for any UAP-related inquiries from citizens and the media”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2765-2959 testimony first hand
1343
Luis Elizondo and many of his former colleagues have provided classified testimony to both the United States Department of Defense (DoD) and the Intelligence Community Inspector General.
“Many of my former colleagues and I have provided classified testimony to both the Department of Defense and the Intelligence Community Inspector General.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2989-3134 administrative first hand
1344
Luis Elizondo states that many of the colleagues who provided classified testimony on UAP to the United States Department of Defense (DoD) and the Intelligence Community Inspector General have subsequently been targeted with threats to their careers, security clearances, and lives.
“Many of us have subsequently been targeted by this cabal with threats to our careers, our security clearances, and even our lives.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:3143-3267 testimony first hand
1345
Luis Elizondo proposes that the United States Congress and the President create a single point-of-contact responsible for a whole-of-government approach to the UAP issue.
“First, Congress and the President should create a single point-of-contact responsible for a whole-of-government approach to the UAP issue.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:3398-3530 opinion first hand
1346
Luis Elizondo states that the White House, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), the Pentagon, and the United States Department of Energy currently play a role in the UAP issue but that no single entity is in charge.
“Currently, the White House, CIA, NASA, the Pentagon, Department of Energy, and others play a role, but no one seems to be in charge, leading to unchecked power and corruption.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:3537-3725 testimony first hand
1347
Luis Elizondo considers that the lack of a single entity in charge of the UAP issue leads to unchecked power and corruption.
“leading to unchecked power and corruption”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:3694-3725 opinion first hand
1348
Luis Elizondo proposes a national UAP strategy to promote transparency and restore public trust, including a whole-of-government approach involving the academic and scientific communities, the private sector, and international partners and allies.
“Second, we need a national UAP strategy that will promote transparency and help restore the American public's trust at a time when the public's trust is at an all-time low. This strategy should include a whole-of-government approach, including the academic and scientific communities, the private sector, and our international partners and allies.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:3740-4080 opinion first hand
1349
Luis Elizondo considers that public trust in relation to the UAP topic is at an all-time low.
“at a time when the public's trust is at an all-time low”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:3856-3908 opinion first hand
1350
Luis Elizondo proposes that the United States Congress create a protected environment so that whistleblowers can come forward without fear of retaliation.
“Third, Congress should create a protected environment so whistleblowers, desperate to do the right thing, can come forward without fear.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:4091-4222 opinion first hand
1351
Luis Elizondo states that UAP whistleblowers currently suffer because of stigma, a code of silence, and concerns about retaliation.
“As it currently stands, these whistleblowers suffer because of stigma, a code of silence, and concerns about retaliation.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:4228-4337 testimony first hand
1352
Luis Elizondo proposes that Members of the United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability and other lawmakers wield subpoena power against hostile witnesses and prevent additional government funding to UAP efforts that remain hidden from Congressional oversight.
“it is up to the Members of this Committee and other lawmakers to wield their subpoena power against hostile witnesses and prevent additional Government funding to those UAP efforts that remain hidden from Congressional oversight”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:4562-4781 opinion first hand
1353
Luis Elizondo believes that Americans can handle the truth about UAP.
“I believe that we as Americans can handle the truth.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:5379-5425 opinion first hand
1354
Luis Elizondo believes the world deserves the truth about UAP.
“And I also believe the world deserves the truth.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:5432-5474 opinion first hand
1355
Luis Elizondo considers UAP to be real.
“Let me be clear: UAP are real.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:802-827 opinion first hand
1356
Luis Elizondo considers that advanced technologies not made by the United States Government or any other government are monitoring sensitive military installations around the globe.
“Advanced technologies not made by our Government - or any other government - are monitoring sensitive military installations around the globe.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:833-969 opinion first hand
1357
Luis Elizondo considers that the United States is in possession of UAP technologies.
“Furthermore, the U.S. is in possession of UAP technologies, as are some of our adversaries.”
Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:976-1055 opinion first hand
1358
Lou Elizondo declined to discuss what he termed "Blue Force technologies" at the 2024 United States congressional hearing on UAPs (13 November).
“When it comes to Blue Force technologies, I would not be able to discuss.”
UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:10:27.8-00:10:30.1 testimony first hand
1359
Lou Elizondo signed documentation approximately three years before the 2024 United States congressional hearing on UAPs (13 November) that restricts his ability to discuss UAP crash retrievals specifically.
“I signed documentation three years ago that restricts my ability to discuss specifically crash retrievals.”
UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:10:37.4-00:10:42.9 testimony first hand
1360
Lou Elizondo submitted his book for review through what he called the "Dobson process", which took a year to complete.
“I submitted for my book through the Dobson process, which took a year for it to be reviewed.”
UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:10:44.4-00:10:48.1 testimony first hand
1361
The United States government has conducted secret Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) crash retrieval programs.
“Has the government conducted secret UAP crash retrieval programs, yes or no? ... Yes.”
UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:10:52.5-00:10:56.2 testimony first hand
1362
Secret UAP crash retrieval programs were designed to identify and reverse engineer alien craft.
“Were they designed to identify and reverse engineer alien craft, yes or no? Yes.”
UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:10:57.4-00:11:01.0 testimony first hand
1363
Anna Paulina Luna asked Lou Elizondo at the 2024 United States congressional hearing on UAPs (13 November) whether it is likely that non-human biologics piloting aircraft are connected via a mind-body connection.
“Mr. Elizondo, in regards to these aircraft being piloted by whatever they might be non-human biologics, are you, would you agree that it's likely that they are being piloted by some mind-body connection?”
UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:12:16.0-00:12:30.0 testimony first hand
1364
Lou Elizondo considers it safe to presume that unidentified aircraft observed by the United States are being intelligently controlled, because in some cases they appear to anticipate military manoeuvres.
“Ma'am, I think it is safe to presume here that they are being intelligently controlled because some cases seem to anticipate our maneuvers”
UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:12:39.0-00:12:47.2 opinion first hand
1365
Lou Elizondo came across an email in which the word "stalked" was used in relation to unidentified aircraft anticipating manoeuvres.
“And I came across an email where the word stalked was used.”
UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:12:51.9-00:12:55.3 testimony second hand
1366
Lou Elizondo was asked at the 2024 United States congressional hearing on UAPs (13 November) about Lockheed Martin's involvement with underwater projects.
“Lou was also asked about Lockheed Martin's involvement with underwater projects and it got very dicey, very cagey, very quickly.”
UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:14:51.6-00:15:05.0 administrative
1367
Lou Elizondo denied stating that Lockheed Martin would not conduct submerged operations, when asked about the company's expertise at the 2024 United States congressional hearing on UAPs (13 November).
“They wouldn't do submerged. ... No, I didn't say that, ma'am.”
UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:15:10.7-00:15:15.0 testimony first hand
1368
During the 2024 United States congressional hearing on UAPs (13 November), the narrator gained backstage access alongside Ryan Graves, Lou Elizondo, and members of Congress, while the public entered through the front doors.
“I was backstage with people like Ryan Graves and Lou Elizondo and the people in Congress in a small room.”
UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:16:38.7-00:16:45.4 testimony
1369
Lue Elizondo has described his feeling about the secret that officials are compelled to keep regarding nonhuman visitors as "somber".
“Lue Elizondo has described his feeling about it as "somber."”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:11815-11867 opinion second hand
1370
Whitley Strieber agrees with Lue Elizondo's description of the secrecy as somber, with the amendment that acceptance is possible.
“If I am even close to being correct about it, I would agree, but with a slight amendment: "Somber indeed, but acceptance is possible and as the old saying goes, 'The truth will make us free.'"”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:11876-12061 opinion first hand
1371
Lue Elizondo went public under the Whistleblower Protection Act, referencing the existence of nonhuman bodies.
“As both David Grusch and Lue Elizondo, going public under the Whistleblower Protection Act, have also referenced the existence of these bodies”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9693-9829 testimony second hand
1372
Whitley Strieber feels free to discuss the nonhuman bodies because David Grusch and Lue Elizondo have publicly referenced their existence.
“I feel free to discuss them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9837-9860 administrative first hand
1373
Luis Elizondo finished his career at the Department of Defense as Senior Intelligence Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense days before joining To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science.
“Lou Elizondo literally finished his career at the Department of Defense as Senior Intelligent Officer in the Office of the Secretary of Defense days ago, and now he is on the stage with us.”
Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:09:15.9-00:09:30.5 administrative first hand
1374
Luis Elizondo served as Director for the National Program Special Management Staff at the Department of Defense.
“He served as Director for the National Program Special Management Staff”
Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:09:31.2-00:09:35.6 administrative first hand
1375
Luis Elizondo is a career intelligence officer accustomed to being involved in close-hold, nuanced national security programmes.
“as a career intelligence officer, I am accustomed to being involved in close hold, nuanced programs involving national security.”
Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:20:16.7-00:20:22.4 administrative first hand
1376
Luis Elizondo's career included work as a counterintelligence special agent, a case officer, and an intelligence practitioner.
“This includes being a counterintelligence special agent, a case officer, and an intelligence practitioner.”
Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:20:23.8-00:20:28.4 administrative first hand
1377
Luis Elizondo ran the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program for nearly the last decade, focusing on unidentified aerial technologies.
“For nearly the last decade, I ran a sensitive aerospace threat identification program, focusing on unidentified aerial technologies.”
Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:20:38.4-00:20:45.2 administrative first hand
1378
Through his work running the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, Luis Elizondo concluded that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are real.
“It was in this position I learned that the phenomenon is indeed real.”
Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:20:46.9-00:20:53.0 opinion first hand
1379
To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science plans to develop tools and capabilities that allow the public to detect, analyse, categorise and engineer previously elusive technologies.
“We will allow you to detect, analyze, categorize, and yes, even engineer technologies that have remained elusive until now.”
Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:21:11.8-00:21:20.3 administrative first hand
1380
To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science plans to build a community of interest, a virtual environment for detection and triangulation of phenomena events in real time.
“This virtual environment provides a platform for the detection and triangulation of phenomena events in real time and allows two-way communication between the public and our team regarding this information.”
Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:21:29.5-00:21:41.4 administrative first hand
1381
To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science plans to release previously unreleased footage from real US government systems.
“We are also planning to provide never-before-release footage from real U.S. government systems, not blurry amateur photos, but real data and real videos.”
Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:21:53.3-00:22:02.3 administrative first hand
1382
To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science plans to develop an app that lets the public help crowd-source aerial phenomena data.
“Another to the STARS Academy objective is the development of an app that allows you to help us quote unquote, crowd crunch the data.”
Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:22:12.3-00:22:20.3 administrative first hand
1383
Luis Elizondo was in charge of a programme dealing with highly sophisticated, unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), referring to the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“I was in charge of the advanced aerospace threat that deals with highly sophisticated, unidentified phenomena.”
Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:33:26.3-00:33:32.6 testimony first hand
1384
The team behind To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science includes a prominent aerospace engineer, a senior intelligence officer from the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), two former senior Pentagon officials, and an experimental physicist from the United States Department of Defense (DoD).
“one of the biggest aerospace engineers in the world, a senior intelligence officer from the CIA, two former senior Pentagon officials, and an experimental physicist from the DOD”
Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:37:25.5-00:37:35.8 administrative first hand
1385
Luis Elizondo was in an advisory-type role associated with the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) but was not officially part of it.
“Well, he was kind of an advisory kind of role, but he wasn't officially part of ASAP”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:44:28.6-00:44:33.4 testimony first hand
1386
When Harry Reid tried to get a Special Access Program (SAP) set up, he named the people he wanted included in the SAP, and that list included Luis Elizondo.
“when Harry Reid went forward to try to get an SAP set up, he said, well, the people I want in the SAP are these people, and he included Lou's name”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:44:35.1-00:44:45.3 testimony first hand
1387
Luis Elizondo was not directly funded by the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“So he was kind of on the edge associated, but not directly funded by AAWSAP.”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:44:45.7-00:44:51.8 testimony first hand
1388
Luis Elizondo looked into the legacy program's retrieval systems but did not get very far.
“Well, I think he dug around like we all did, but didn't get very far.”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:45:00.3-00:45:03.8 testimony first hand
1389
Luis Elizondo was basically the leader of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Lou Elizondo was, you know, basically was, you might say, the kind of leader of AATIP.”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:46:18.5-00:46:25.4 testimony first hand
1390
Under the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) label, Luis Elizondo gathered videotapes, some of which have since been released publicly.
“was to, for example, gather up the videotapes, some of which have come out and so on, and gather data from what had been successfully carried through under the AAWSAP program”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:46:58.5-00:47:12.1 testimony first hand
1391
Under the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) label, Luis Elizondo gathered data from work successfully carried out under the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“gather data from what had been successfully carried through under the AAWSAP program”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:47:05.9-00:47:12.1 testimony first hand
1392
Luis Elizondo and Christopher Mellon tried to get information about the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) further up the chain of command to Defense Secretary James Mattis, but could not get through his gatekeepers.
“Chris Mellon took on the task of trying to get this further up the chain of command to General Mattis, who's defense secretary, and they couldn't get through his gatekeepers.”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:47:19.9-00:47:31.6 testimony first hand
1393
To the Stars Academy (TTSA) involved Christopher Mellon, Luis Elizondo, Jim Semivan, Steve Justice, and Hal Puthoff.
“the people who went ahead and setting up to the STARS Academy, I mean, did involve Chris Mellon, involved Lou Elizondo, Jim Simivan, Steve Justice from, you know, So anyway, and me.”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:48:19.7-00:48:35.4 testimony first hand
1394
Luis Elizondo said many years ago that UFO disclosure cannot be delivered as a ten-course menu all at once and must be done piece by piece.
“Lou Elizondo, many years ago, he said, you can't do a 10 course menu all at once. You have to do it piece by piece.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:07:52.1-02:07:57.3 hearsay second hand
1395
John Ramirez commented in 2022 that everyone is waiting for Luis Elizondo to talk about human-alien hybridisation and that it is coming.
“And then you've got John Ramirez, who in 2022 made comments to the effect that everyone is waiting for Lou Elizondo to talk about hybrids, like it's coming.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:09:12.7-02:09:21.2 hearsay second hand
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In his book Imminent, Luis Elizondo wrote that people with Cherokee blood and DNA appear to have more experiences and to be more inclined towards a certain type of work, ending up in government UFO investigation because of their genetic lineage.
“You read Lou Elizondo's book, Imminent, it's in there. He says, it seems to be that people with Cherokee blood and DNA have more experiences and also are more inclined to go towards a certain type of work”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:11:40.3-02:11:51.7 hearsay second hand
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UAP Gerb considers Luis Elizondo to have a playbook of prepared responses for interviews.
“And he has a playbook of responses.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:03:19.3-01:03:20.3 opinion first hand
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Maaneli "Max" Derakhshani wonders whether Luis Elizondo's comment about the space shuttle videos referred to STS-48 and STS-80, and whether Elizondo knows what the United States Department of War will release next.
“I wonder if he was referring to STS-48 and STS-80, and if he knows something about what the Department of War is going to release next in connection with this.”
What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 01:00:02.2-01:00:11.1 opinion first hand
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About a week before 2026-08-11, Luis Elizondo told Reality Check with Ross Coulthart that people in the intelligence community had told him about human-alien hybridisation.
“a still quite extraordinary comment by Lou Elizondo, the former Pentagon UAP program investigator who told us about a week ago now that were people in the intelligence community who told him about hybridization, human alien hybridization.”
Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:03:29.3-00:03:48.1 hearsay third hand
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Luis Elizondo is a former Pentagon UAP programme investigator.
“Lou Elizondo, the former Pentagon UAP program investigator”
Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:03:31.6-00:03:35.3 administrative
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An undeclassified 4K video known to Luis Elizondo puts the issue of anomalous phenomena and the five observables well beyond doubt.
“He talked about a 4K video that he's aware of that still hasn't been declassified that puts the issue of anomalous phenomena, the five observables, well beyond doubt.”
Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:25:07.2-00:25:20.0 testimony second hand
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Lue Elizondo is the former head of the Pentagon's UAP programme, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Lue Elizondo, the former head of the Pentagon’s UAP program AATIP”
Pressure Mounts on President Trump as UAP Disclosure Advocates Intensify Their Push 2026-08-19 char:5696-5756 administrative
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Lue Elizondo is widely believed to be in a position to work with the Trump administration and help guide a potential UAP disclosure effort.
“is also widely believed to be in a position to work with the Trump administration and help guide a potential disclosure effort”
Pressure Mounts on President Trump as UAP Disclosure Advocates Intensify Their Push 2026-08-19 char:5763-5883 opinion

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