Brief
Mary Rodwell
The claims the writer was given for Mary Rodwell, in the order they were given.
1
Mary Rodwell believes human contact with extraterrestrials is real, affecting not just abductees but all of humanity.
“I believe human contact with extraterrestrials is real, not just for the abductee, but for us all.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:01:43.1-00:01:50.9 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell believes extraterrestrial contact has been occurring throughout human history and will continue into the future.
“It's not only happening now, but I believe it's been happening all through human history and will most certainly continue on through to our future.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:01:52.2-00:02:00.9 opinion first hand
3
Mary Rodwell has provided emotional support to over 100 people experiencing abductee encounters and their families.
“I have provided emotional support for over 100 experiencers, their families all having the abductee encounter experience.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:02:03.3-00:02:11.3 testimony first hand
4
Mary Rodwell has never observed an unidentified flying object nor experienced abduction.
“I've never seen a UFO, and I have never had an abductee experience.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:03:12.5-00:03:16.3 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell believes many millions of people have experienced unidentified flying objects and abductions.
“but I do believe many millions have”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:03:18.5-00:03:20.9 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell is a registered nurse and practising midwife.
“I'm a registered nurse and a midwife.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:06:08.6-00:06:09.9 administrative first hand
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Mary Rodwell has 11 years of professional experience as a counsellor with broad clinical knowledge.
“I have 11 years of experience as a professional counsellor with a broad range of clinical knowledge.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:06:20.2-00:06:25.0 administrative first hand
8
Mary Rodwell was introduced to a person claiming to have contact experiences with non-human beings during professional training.
“I was doing extra professional training when a friend introduced me to someone who said they were having contact experiences with non-human beings.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:06:34.5-00:06:41.9 testimony first hand
9
A contactee claiming extraterrestrial contact presented as a young-looking 40-year-old who spoke calmly and normally.
“He presented as a very young-looking 40-year-old. He spoke calmly and normally.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:07:12.7-00:07:16.8 observation first hand
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The contactee had physical evidence of his experiences, including marks on his body photographed by his partner and a shaved area on his leg observed whilst showering.
“He had physical evidence, marks on his body, photographs his partner had taken off them, including a shaved area on his leg that he'd observed while having a shower.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:07:37.4-00:07:46.4 testimony second hand
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The contactee's partner and five-year-old daughter were also experiencing extraterrestrial contact.
“He was particularly concerned for his partner because she was having experiences, as was his five-year-old daughter.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:07:48.4-00:07:54.0 testimony second hand
12
The contactee experienced marks on his earlobe during meditation that appeared red, swollen, and resembled a small scar in early healing stages consistent with microsurgery.
“he came to me the next day and showed me marks on his earlobe, which was still red and swollen, and looked to me like a small, regular scar, newly healing, resembling microsurgery.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:08:00.8-00:08:10.9 observation first hand
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The contactee requested emotional support from Mary Rodwell, stating he needed someone to listen who would not dismiss him as mentally unwell.
“I asked him what he needed from me, and he said, all I need is someone to listen. Someone who won't think I'm loony”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:08:13.5-00:08:21.7 testimony second hand
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Program for Extraordinary Experience Research (PEER) is an organisation in America run by psychiatrist John Mack.
“I had learned of organizations in America, such as PEER, the Program for Extraordinary Experience Research, run by John Mack”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:11:03.9-00:11:10.1 administrative second hand
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Academy of Clinical Close Encounter Therapists (ACCT) is an organisation in America.
“the ACCT, the Academy of Clinical Close Encounter Therapists in America”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:11:11.2-00:11:15.4 administrative second hand
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Mary Rodwell registered as a clinician member of Academy of Clinical Close Encounter Therapists (ACCT).
“And I was delighted to get information from them, and finally registered as a clinician member of the ACCT.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:11:16.6-00:11:21.2 administrative first hand
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Academy of Clinical Close Encounter Therapists (ACCT) has 105 registered professionals including psychiatrists, psychologists and doctors dealing with extraterrestrial contact experiences.
“This organization has 105 professionals, psychiatrists, psychologists and doctors, all registered and dealing with this experience.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:11:23.5-00:11:31.4 administrative second hand
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Academy of Clinical Close Encounter Therapists (ACCT) conducts workshops internationally.
“And they have workshops all over the world.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:11:32.5-00:11:34.3 administrative second hand
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Mary Rodwell was a member of Australasian Society of Psychical Research (ASPR) in Western Australia.
“I was a member of the ASPR, which is the Australasian Society of Psychical Research in Western Australia”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:11:44.5-00:11:49.2 administrative first hand
20
Elizabeth Robinson is a professional counsellor and therapist who was identified to facilitate an abductee support group by ufology researchers in Western Australia.
“a professional counselor therapist called Elizabeth Robinson”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:11:57.8-00:12:00.5 administrative second hand
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Elizabeth Robinson has experienced extraterrestrial contact.
“I wasn't aware till later that she was also an experiencer.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:12:04.8-00:12:07.2 testimony second hand
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Australian Close Encounter Resource Network (CERN) was established following the evolution of an abductee support group in Western Australia.
“This led to the abductee support group that you've heard about and its evolution to a CERN, the Australian Close Encounter Resource Network.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:12:09.3-00:12:16.9 administrative first hand
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Australian Close Encounter Resource Network (CERN) focuses on five areas: abductee support through groups and individual counselling, collating information and research on abductee phenomena, encouraging media attention to raise public awareness, establishing a register of qualified professional counsellor therapists, and networking with ufology organisations nationally and internationally.
“And we've got fine main areas that we focus on. We offer abductee support from a support group to one-to-one counselling. We collate information and research for the abductee phenomena. We encourage media attention to raise public awareness. We want a register of qualified professional counselor therapists and a network with ufology organizations nationally and internationally.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:12:18.9-00:12:42.5 administrative first hand
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Mary Rodwell was introduced to Elizabeth Robinson approximately two years before this lecture (approximately 1996).
“After being introduced to Elizabeth two years ago, from this auspicious meeting, my world changed for good.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:12:44.6-00:12:50.2 testimony first hand
25
The initial abductee support group meeting was attended by 12 individuals experiencing extraterrestrial contact plus one professional psychologist providing feedback.
“We had 12 courageous individuals finally attend, plus another professional psychologist for feedback.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:13:26.6-00:13:32.0 testimony first hand
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Participants in Australian Close Encounter Resource Network (CERN) support group have shown extraordinary growth and confidence.
“We have seen enormous changes in those attending. And the growth and confidence of those that have attended has been absolutely extraordinary.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:13:45.6-00:13:53.2 observation first hand
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Many people experiencing extraterrestrial abduction have been traumatised by mainstream mental health professionals.
“I had heard many stories from abductees traumatized by going through mainstream therapists and mental health professionals.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:16:24.7-00:16:29.6 observation second hand
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Many abductees who sought help from mainstream mental health professionals were diagnosed as psychotic, medicated, and institutionalised.
“Many had resourced them to their cost and were diagnosed as psychotic, then medicated and institutionalized.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:16:31.2-00:16:36.2 observation second hand
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For many abductees, psychiatric treatment by mainstream mental health professionals was more damaging to their psychological wellbeing than the extraterrestrial contact experiences themselves.
“This was more damaging to their psyche than the ET contact.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:16:38.2-00:16:41.1 opinion second hand
30
A young man trusting his brother with disclosure of extraterrestrial contact was subsequently collected by a psychiatric emergency team and hospitalised.
“also mentions a young man who naively trusted his brother sharing his ET contact. Shortly after this, he was collected by a psychiatric emergency team, hospitalised.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:16:50.5-00:17:00.3 hearsay third hand
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Mary Rodwell's female client experienced extraterrestrial contact starting at age four.
“she'd been experiencing ET contact since four years old”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:17:19.7-00:17:22.3 testimony second hand
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The female client was unable to explain her extraterrestrial contact experiences to her parents, who could not understand her extreme nighttime fear.
“she had no way to explain her experiences to her parents and they couldn't understand her extreme fear particularly at night”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:17:26.6-00:17:33.6 testimony second hand
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The female client became increasingly antisocial, very insecure, lonely and trapped in fear due to ongoing extraterrestrial contact experiences.
“she became increasingly antisocial very insecure, lonely and trapped in her world of fear”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:17:43.4-00:17:49.7 testimony second hand
34
The mother took the female client to a psychologist at age eight.
“Her mother took her to see a psychologist at eight years old.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:17:51.1-00:17:53.7 testimony second hand
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Psychological assistance did not help the female client who was unable to discuss why she was frightened and lacked the words to explain.
“This didn't help. She was unable to discuss why she was so frightened at that young age and she said, I just didn't have the words.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:17:54.5-00:18:00.8 testimony second hand
36
By age fourteen, the female client's continuous extraterrestrial contact experiences caused severe sleep deprivation, affecting her schoolwork and ability to cope.
“By 14, she was sleeping so badly due to her continuous ET contact that her schoolwork suffered and she was so tired she felt unable to cope.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:18:02.4-00:18:10.4 testimony second hand
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The female client, severely depressed from ongoing extraterrestrial contact, attempted suicide by cutting her wrists and was hospitalised.
“Severely depressed, she attempted suicide by slitting her wrists and was hospitalized.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:18:11.8-00:18:17.0 testimony second hand
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The female client disclosed her extraterrestrial abduction experiences to a psychiatrist, who responded that aliens do not exist.
“She finally gained the courage to tell the psychiatrist what was really troubling her and that she was being abducted by aliens. The psychiatrist responded by saying there was no such thing as aliens.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:18:19.2-00:18:30.0 testimony third hand
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Unable to diagnose the female client, the psychiatrist presented her case to a panel of doctors who concluded she was schizophrenic.
“Unable to diagnose her or label her condition, he took her case to a panel of doctors. The final consensus was that she must be schizophrenic.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:18:31.8-00:18:40.1 testimony third hand
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Jason Andrews experienced extraterrestrial abduction from small childhood.
“a 15-year-old son, who had abducting experiences from a small child”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:18:56.1-00:18:59.8 testimony third hand
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Jason Andrews became increasingly disruptive at school when his extraterrestrial contact experiences were not validated.
“Jason Andrews reacted badly to his not having his experiences validated and became increasingly disruptive at school.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:19:01.4-00:19:07.6 testimony third hand
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Jason Andrews referred to his psychiatrist as 'the finger lady' because she would raise and bow her fingers when discussing aliens, which Jason perceived as a condescending indication that aliens should not be taken seriously.
“He called her the finger lady because every time she spoke of the aliens, she would hold up the fingers of each hand, bowing them in what Jason thought was a condescending manner to indicate the word aliens should be in quotation marks and thereby not necessarily taken as correct.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:19:10.6-00:19:25.3 testimony third hand
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Jason Andrews became angry with the psychiatrist when he realised he was not receiving health support for his experiences.
“Jason became very angry with the psychiatrist when he realized he was not getting the health he hoped for.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:19:27.0-00:19:31.0 testimony third hand
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Jason Andrews' psychiatrist stated to his general practitioner that Jason was not mentally ill, not psychotic, and not hallucinating.
“The psychiatrist was clear he was not mentally ill, stating to his GP that he was not psychotic and was told he was not hallucinating.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:19:31.8-00:19:40.0 testimony third hand
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Jason Andrews was prescribed antidepressants to help him sleep despite the psychiatrist's assessment that he was not mentally ill.
“But Jason was prescribed antidepressants to help him sleep.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:19:41.6-00:19:44.2 testimony third hand
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Mary Rodwell's female client has been medicated for six years, attributing her depression and lack of self-confidence to the medication.
“my client is still being medicated six years later, which she says is the reason for her depression and lack of self-confidence”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:19:52.1-00:19:58.4 testimony second hand
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Mary Rodwell's female client was permitted to remain at home whilst medicated and tranquilised due to difficulty attending school.
“she was allowed to remain at home medicated and tranquilized”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:20:02.6-00:20:04.9 testimony second hand
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Despite psychiatric medication, extraterrestrial contact experiences did not cease for Mary Rodwell's female client.
“But of course, the ET contact did not stop, despite the medication.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:20:06.4-00:20:09.7 testimony second hand
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Mary Rodwell's female client researched and understood that her experiences aligned with documented extraterrestrial contact phenomena, but was not believed by others.
“she gradually looked for her own answers, researched the abductee enigma herself, realized it explained her own experiences, but still no one would believe her”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:20:12.6-00:20:21.6 testimony second hand
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Mary Rodwell's female client wanted to relocate to America where she believed people would listen and support her experiences, but lacked financial resources.
“She wanted to go to America where she knew there were people there who would listen and support her, but hadn't the financial resources.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:20:22.6-00:20:27.5 testimony second hand
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Mary Rodwell's female client attempted suicide multiple times and eventually sought help after watching a television programme on extraterrestrial contact.
“she attempted suicide several more times, and finally it was a TV program on ET contact that convinced her to seek help”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:20:30.0-00:20:37.6 testimony second hand
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Mary Rodwell's female client sought help through a ufology organisation in Western Australia.
“finally she contacted me through a ufology organization in Western Australia”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:20:38.1-00:20:42.0 testimony first hand
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After counselling from Mary Rodwell, the female client expressed with emotion that she finally believed she was mentally well.
“After counseling, she was able to attend the support group and with deep emotion she said, At last, now I know I'm sane. I always believed I was, but now I know.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:21:02.3-00:21:13.7 testimony second hand
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Millions of people from all cultures and belief systems throughout the world have had extraterrestrial contact or alien abduction experiences.
“Millions of people from all cultures, belief systems throughout the world are having this experience.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:22:43.8-00:22:47.5 observation first hand
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Alien abduction experiences affect all age groups, including children as young as 2 and 3 years old.
“It affects all age groups, some as two and three years old.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:22:50.2-00:22:54.2 observation first hand
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Alien abduction experiences have real physical aspects manifesting as scars, marks, bruises, and skin rashes.
“It has very real physical aspects to it in the form of scars, marks, bruises and skin rashes.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:22:56.3-00:23:00.3 observation first hand
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Alien abduction experiences are often accompanied by emotional trauma, sometimes severe, manifesting as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
“It has often emotional trauma associated with it, sometimes severe, called post-traumatic stress disorder.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:02.6-00:23:07.9 observation first hand
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Alien abduction experiences affect animals and plants, causing changes in soil and material objects.
“It affects animals and plants, will affect changes in soil and material objects.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:13.1-00:23:16.4 observation first hand
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Alien abduction experiences produce anomalies in the human body, including implanted objects that are often visible on X-ray and some of which have been removed by surgery.
“It produces anomalies in the body, such as implanted objects, often visible on X-ray, and some of which have been removed by surgery.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:17.6-00:23:23.5 observation first hand
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Many individuals who experience alien abduction are found to be physically missing from their beds during contact events.
“Many individuals having the experience are found to be physically missing from their beds.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:25.9-00:23:29.2 observation first hand
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Many individuals who experience alien abduction report missing time episodes, either when travelling or at home.
“Many individuals have missing time episodes, either when travelling or at home.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:30.6-00:23:34.0 observation first hand
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Individuals have experienced physical healing as a result of extraterrestrial contact.
“Individuals have been known to be healed by ET contact.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:35.6-00:23:38.7 observation first hand
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Many individuals who report alien abduction experiences have been psychologically tested and found to have no psychopathology.
“Many have been psychologically tested and found to have no psychopathology.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:45.4-00:23:48.2 observation first hand
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Alien abduction experiences result in transformation of individuals physically, emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually.
“There is transformation of the individual physically, emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:51.0-00:23:55.0 observation first hand
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Individuals who experience alien abduction frequently develop high sense perception, clairvoyance, and telepathic abilities.
“High sense perception, clairvoyance, telepathy, remote viewing abilities.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:56.7-00:24:00.0 observation first hand
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Individuals who experience alien abduction develop healing abilities through psychic surgery and energy work.
“Healing abilities from psychic surgery, energy work, hands-on healing.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:24:01.2-00:24:04.1 observation first hand
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Individuals who experience alien abduction undergo transformation resulting in greater ecological sensitivity, non-materialistic values, and spiritual orientation with awareness of multidimensional reality.
“Transformation that changes the individual on all levels, ecologically sensitive, non-materialistic and spiritually orientated individuals who become aware of a greater multidimensional reality.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:24:05.3-00:24:16.6 observation first hand
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Of more than 100 people Mary Rodwell met who reported contact experience, approximately 23 per cent reported real trauma.
“Out of the 100 plus people I've met with contact experience, perhaps only 23% have real trauma.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:24:45.9-00:24:50.5 observation first hand
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Many abductees report being well-integrated, happy, and healthy individuals leading normal, fulfilling lives.
“Many abductees are amazingly integrated and happy, healthy human beings leading normal, fulfilling lives.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:24:54.5-00:25:00.4 observation first hand
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Some individuals who experience alien abduction do not experience the more difficult traumatic memory recall that affects other abductees.
“For some, it may be that they have not the more difficult traumatic memory recall that other individuals have.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:25:04.5-00:25:10.5 observation first hand
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Some individuals who experience alien abduction do not report experiencing traumatic contact events, such as medical procedures.
“Some do not seem to have the same type of experiences that are traumatic, such as the medical procedures, for example.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:25:11.9-00:25:16.5 observation first hand
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Some individuals who experience alien abduction, despite having traumatic memories, develop the ability to integrate those experiences through their own resources and become well-adjusted individuals who value the specialness of the experience and the awareness of greater reality it provides.
“Some do have all of this, but have the ability to make sense of it through their own resources and become very integrated and accepted individuals that even enjoys the specialness of this experience and the gift of being aware of a greater reality.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:25:18.3-00:25:32.3 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell has worked with terminally ill people in hospice settings, including those with cancer.
“In terminal illness, I worked with a lot of people in hospice dying with such things as cancer.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:25:36.4-00:25:43.4 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell calls the process of moving from fear and confusion to understanding one's alien contact experience 'contact the chrysalis for change'.
“This process, from fear to understanding, I call contact the chrysalis for change.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:26:30.4-00:26:34.6 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell has developed a 10-stage process model describing the progression from fear and confusion to transformation and integration of alien contact experience.
“Through my research with experiences, I've come through a process. I've come to realize there is a process that you go to from the confusion right through to living and growing with this experience. And these are the 10 stages.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:26:39.5-00:26:53.2 observation first hand
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In Mary Rodwell's stage model, individuals begin the process of integrating alien contact experience with confusion and fear.
“I call it from fear to transformation, where you start off with all the confusion and really in the fear place.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:26:53.9-00:27:00.1 observation first hand
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In Mary Rodwell's stage model, the second stage transitions from fear to curiosity and questioning about the nature of contact experiences.
“And you go from the fear place to the curiosity, the questioning. What are these experiences?”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:27:02.1-00:27:07.0 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell identifies a stage in the contact integration process where individuals experience internal conflict and debate about whether their experiences are real or evidence of mental illness.
“What is real? What is there about this that makes this real? What is the information out there? Am I really crazy? Or is this actually a bizarre experience?”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:27:19.3-00:27:28.7 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell identifies a 'realization event' stage where individuals accumulate enough information to recognise that their contact experiences may be real, sometimes triggered by attending a support group or encountering a book that resonates powerfully with them.
“And there comes a point where you get enough information where you realize that in fact, perhaps, perhaps this is real. It may be when you first attend a support group, it may be that you pick up one particular book that echoes and resonates so powerfully that you have got no more choice but to recognize that this is real. And it's known as the realization event.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:27:30.4-00:27:50.8 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell identifies a stage of intense internal conflict where abductees struggle between denial of their experiences and acceptance of their reality.
“Now this is really, really scary then because you've got the conflict. Part of you wants to deny it all and say, I'd rather believe I was crazy and if I take medication, it's all going to go away. But there's another part that says, have I got to accept this because it's there, it's in front of me.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:27:52.2-00:28:05.5 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell identifies a stage where individuals begin to accept and integrate multidimensional reality and a new worldview in relation to their contact experiences.
“And then comes a point at number seven where you start to change. You start to say, well, maybe I can take this on board. So you start to take on the multi-dimensional reality, the new paradigm, the change in worldview.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:28:08.0-00:28:20.6 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell calls the stage of accepting the simultaneous reality of both conventional and multidimensional reality 'the conversion', or 'the acceptance of the dual reality'.
“And this I call the conversion, the acceptance of the dual reality.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:28:22.3-00:28:26.4 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell identifies the final stage of the contact integration process as reaching calmness and integration, characterised by the recognition 'contact is real' and the ability to integrate and live with the contact experience.
“You're going to the transformative effect of this experience to finally, yes, contact's real, and integrate and live and grow with this experience.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:28:39.0-00:28:48.2 observation first hand
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The journey from fear and confusion to integration in the context of alien abduction experiences can be fairly rapid for some abductees or take years, depending on the support and validation they receive.
“the journey from the fear place to integration can be fairly rapid for some it can take years depending on the support and validation they get”
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Mary Rodwell believes that when provided with an honouring and supportive environment, the journey from fear and confusion to integration of alien contact experience can be very swift.
“given the right support, by this I mean an honoring supportive environment, then I believe it can be very swift.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:29:16.9-00:29:22.8 opinion first hand
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Individuals who experience alien abduction can develop healing abilities.
“We have got amazing healing abilities.”
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The number of people who have experienced alien abduction could potentially be astronomically large.
“The numbers could be absolutely astronomical.”
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Extraterrestrial contact is revealing to humanity how to achieve full consciousness of abilities and potential that have previously remained unconscious.
“Perhaps up to now we've just been unconscious of our potential and it's time for us to be shown through this ET contact how to be fully conscious.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:34:00.3-00:34:08.3 opinion first hand
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Anomalies in the human body demonstrate that humans only use approximately one-tenth of their brain capacity.
“Anomalies in our physical body show we only use a tenth of our brain capacity. What is the rest for?”
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Mary Rodwell believes the transformation of the human condition is being assisted by contact with extraterrestrials.
“I certainly believe we're seeing a transformation of the human's condition and it certainly seems to be assisted by the contact with ETs.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:34:19.2-00:34:27.0 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell considers individuals who experience alien abduction to be pioneers of human evolution.
“I believe they are pioneers of our evolution”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:35:46.1-00:35:48.3 opinion first hand
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Ufology organisations documented attempts to monitor extraterrestrial contact, but extraterrestrials appear aware of monitoring efforts and create electrical disturbances and anomalous psychic phenomena to interfere with validation.
“it seems that the ET's themselves are very aware of this and they do seem to create a great deal of disturbance and with a lot of the anomalous psychic phenomena around that you get electrical disturbances”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:38:36.8-00:38:48.4 observation second hand
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During regression sessions, Mary Rodwell's tape recorders frequently malfunction, which she interprets as possible extraterrestrial interference to prevent validation of contact experiences.
“even when I have done a regression sometimes the tape recorder will play up so it's like almost as though they could create an interference to stop that from being validated on one level”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:38:49.6-00:38:59.3 observation first hand
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Daryl Sims has attempted to programme individuals who experience alien abduction to consciously remember their experiences whilst aboard extraterrestrial spacecraft.
“Daryl Sims has tried to do this, and he's tried to program people to remember their experiences consciously when they've gone aboard the ship”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:39:05.7-00:39:12.6 administrative second hand
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Mary Rodwell considers that the alien abduction phenomenon relates to a multidimensional reality involving parallel universes discussed by those with direct contact experiences.
“It seems to be that we're looking with a multidimensional reality. We are looking at perhaps some parallel universes they're talking about.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:47:22.8-00:47:30.2 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell notes that ancient folklore has recognised and documented beings such as elementals and creatures like Bigfoot, which have been observed but remain poorly understood.
“we have acknowledged from ancient folklore as well, such as elementals, some of the ancient beings like Bigfoot, and these types of beings that have been seen and never quite understood.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:47:34.2-00:47:47.8 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell believes there is considerably more life on Earth than humans are currently aware of, life that humans are not always sensing or perceiving.
“I think there is probably a lot more life on our Earth than we are aware of, but we are not always sensing it or being aware of it.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:47:48.6-00:47:56.8 opinion first hand
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According to experiencers and contactees in Mary Rodwell's support groups, there may be life existing within the planet itself.
“And there may even be, they say, life within the planet itself.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:47:57.5-00:48:01.0 hearsay second hand
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Mary Rodwell observes that sufficient scientific tools to test the origins and nature of the phenomenon and associated beings are not yet available.
“certainly not the scientific tools yet to test where they're all coming from.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:48:10.4-00:48:14.0 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell considers it threatening and inappropriate for researchers to observe therapeutic support groups of traumatised people experiencing alien abduction, as observation itself compounds the threat for already vulnerable individuals.
“if you've actually got a therapeutic group with people that are traumatized, the last thing they want to be is being observed under some sort of microscope. It's threatening enough to even meet another experiencer to start with, and it isn't appropriate for a therapeutic group.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:49:14.5-00:49:30.2 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell advocates for therapeutic support groups for alien abduction experiencers to remain separate and distinct from groups focused on sharing and discussing understanding of the phenomenon.
“I really see them as two distinct sorts of groups, though, one that is for therapy, another one for sharing, your understanding of this.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:49:40.6-00:49:47.2 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell identifies obtaining support and being able to talk about one's experiences as one of the primary ways to help people overcome fear related to alien abduction.
“One of the main ways of helping is through getting support and being able to talk about it.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:50:19.8-00:50:25.0 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell considers becoming informed about alien abduction experiences to be essential for reducing fear, as greater awareness reveals positive dimensions and changes beyond fear itself.
“Two is getting informed. The more you're informed, the more you're aware there's more to this than just the fear, that there are positive changes.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:50:27.3-00:50:35.5 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell emphasises the importance of focusing on hope and the possibility of moving beyond fear related to alien abduction experiences.
“I think it's really important to look at the hope and the fact that you can get past that.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:50:35.9-00:50:38.9 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell advocates that family members and close friends should be informed about and provide ongoing support to people experiencing fear from alien abduction encounters.
“it's really important to inform, if you can, family or friends, someone who can be there during that time. Because it's ongoing support then.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:51:09.7-00:51:16.6 opinion first hand
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Rey Hernandez cofounded the Dr. Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Research into Extraterrestrial Encounters (FREE) together with Apollo astronaut Edgar Mitchell, Harvard astrophysicist Rudy Schild, and Australian researcher Mary Rodwell.
“Rey, together with Apollo astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, Harvard astrophysicist Dr. Rudy Schild, and Australian researcher Mary Rodwell, cofounded the Dr. Edgar Mitchell Foundation for Research into Extraterrestrial Encounters or FREE.”
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After his first anomalous experience, Rey Hernandez sent emails to ten well-known researchers in the field, one of whom was Mary Rodwell.
“He relates that after his first experience he had sent emails to ten well-known researchers in the field, one of whom was Mary Rodwell.”
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Mary Rodwell claims to have supported over three hundred thousand experiencers.
“Mary is a researcher who claims to have supported over three hundred thousand experiencers, and she has written a number of books about her work.”
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Mary Rodwell did not respond to Rey Hernandez's email until after his rush-hour download experience.
“Mary didn’t respond to Rey’s email until after his rush-hour experience.”
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Mary Rodwell introduced Rey Hernandez to Dr. Rudy Schild.
“Mary introduced Rey to Dr. Rudy Schild, who was interested in UFO contactees, consciousness studies, and quantum physics.”
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After his meeting with Edgar Mitchell, Rey Hernandez asked Mary Rodwell if she would help him found the organisation with the help of Rudy Schild and Edgar Mitchell.
“After his meeting with Edgar, he spoke to Mary. He asked her if she would help him found the organization with the help of Rudy and Edgar.”
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Mary Rodwell agreed to help Rey Hernandez and came up with the acronym FREE, for the Foundation for Research into Extraterrestrial Encounters.
“After a few days of considering the idea, she agreed to help Rey and she came up with the acronym FREE, for the Foundation for Research into Extraterrestrial Encounters.”
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