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Michael Horn

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Michael Horn created the video "Death Star over San Francisco," which shows objects from the Star Wars franchise, such as the Death Star and TIE fighters, appearing in ordinary scenes around San Francisco, and has over three and a half million views.
“One of the best examples is “Death Star over San Francisco,” created by Michael Horn. The video, which has over three and a half million views, shows various objects from the Star Wars franchise in ordinary scenes in San Francisco.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:25029-25254 administrative first hand
2
Michael Horn said that George Lucas had not called him, but that if he did, Horn would express gratitude for making his childhood magical, and that his favourite Star Wars films were the original trilogy, with Phantom Menace his favourite of the newer trilogy.
““Lucas has not called me yet,” Horn says, “but if he did, I’d certainly express my gratitude toward him for making my childhood so magical. His cultural and technological legacy is enormous. My favorite Star Wars films are the original trilogy, and of the newer trilogy, I’d oddly have to say Phantom Menace was my favorite.””
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:25591-25905 opinion first hand
3
Billy Meier had his arm ripped off his body and all of his teeth smashed at the same time, and was delirious for 30 days after the remains of his arm were amputated without anaesthetic.
“You have your arm ripped off your body and all of your teeth smashed at the same time, and you're delirious for 30 days because they amputate what remains of your arm without anesthetic.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:00:06.4-00:00:18.5 testimony
4
Until he was about the age of 16, Billy Meier claims to have been tutored by a man named Sfath, who was at that time supposedly around 900 years of age.
“until he was about the age of 16, he claims to have been tutored by this man named Sfath, S-F-A-T-H, who was at that time supposedly around 900 years of age.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:00:18.5-00:00:34.6 testimony
5
Billy Meier is claimed to have taken approximately 1,200 UFO photographs that have been authenticated.
“if this man has indeed taken 1,200 or so UFO photos... And they've been authenticated.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:00:47.9-00:01:00.7 testimony
6
The UFOs being seen around the world are not human-made craft, because the craft Billy Meier's extraterrestrial contacts fly are not UFOs and the contacts know what the craft are and who flies them.
“The UFOs that are being seen around the world, this is not ours because ours are not UFOs. We know what the craft are and we know who's flying them.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:01:19.8-00:01:30.3 testimony
7
Billy Meier has said the meaning of life is the evolution of consciousness.
“And Billy has said the meaning of life is the evolution of consciousness.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:01:51.2-00:01:58.9 testimony
8
Billy Meier is an 89-year-old man who claims that since the age of five he has been meeting with human beings from another star system who have tutored him from that age.
“Billy Meier is a now 89-year-old man who claims that since the age of five he has been meeting with human beings from another star system, that they have tutored him from that age”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:06:00.4-00:06:29.8 testimony
9
From the age of five, Billy Meier claims to have gone on board craft with his extraterrestrial contacts and on his own to designated places in and around Earth, off Earth within the solar system, and beyond.
“from the age of five he has gone on board with them and on his own to go designated places, especially in and around and on the Earth and off Earth, let's say, within our solar system and beyond.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:06:00.4-00:06:38.7 testimony
10
Michael Horn has made about 22 trips to Switzerland to meet with Billy Meier, with meetings lasting from half an hour to an hour and a half each.
“after about 22 trips that I've gone to Switzerland, taken to Switzerland, and met with him each time, spent some time, sometimes it's a half hour, sometimes it's an hour and a half”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:06:49.2-00:07:20.0 testimony first hand
11
Michael Horn tried to trick Billy Meier into revealing that he was hoaxing on at least four different occasions, and each time came away with a sense that Billy Meier was a genuine human being.
“to try to frankly and quite honestly try to trick him into revealing that he was hoaxing on four different occasions at least. I came away each time with a sense that I had just spent time with a very genuine human being.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:06:49.2-00:07:27.7 testimony first hand
12
Threats and attempts on Billy Meier's life have totalled 28 by now.
“Some of that reason is threats and attempts on his life that have totaled 28 by now.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:07:55.5-00:08:02.6 testimony
13
Billy Meier has published tens of thousands of pages of contact notes and information.
“massive amounts of information, tens of thousands of pages he's published so far.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:08:31.5-00:08:44.6 testimony
14
Billy Meier's published content dates back to 1946, when he was around nine years old and was publishing and disseminating information.
“the content dates back to 1946. when he was something like nine years old and was publishing information, disseminating it.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:09:37.0-00:09:47.7 testimony
15
By the time he was 9 or 10, Billy Meier is said to have had the thinking capacity of a 35-year-old adult.
“by the time he was 9 and 10, as you just alluded to, it is said that he had the thinking capacity of a 35-year-old adult.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:10:52.0-00:11:06.6 testimony
16
Billy Meier claims to have been tutored by Sfath from age 5 to age 16.
“all this time, until he was about the age of 16, from 5 to 16, he claims to have been tutored by this man named Sfath”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:11:06.6-00:11:23.6 testimony
17
Drawing illustrations exist of some of Billy Meier's extraterrestrial contacts, and they look pretty much like humans.
“We have drawing illustrations of some of the people. You can see the representation. They look pretty much like we do in this.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:11:23.6-00:11:32.1 testimony
18
Billy Meier has been in contact with some of his extraterrestrial contacts for 50-plus years.
“people that he's been in contact with for 50-plus years”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:11:32.1-00:11:48.8 testimony
19
Douglas Vakoch has said that when contact with extraterrestrials takes place, it will be in the language of mathematics.
“I think his name is Douglas Vakoch, and he was talking about when contact takes place, it will be in the language of mathematics.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:12:59.9-00:13:19.1 opinion second hand
20
The Billy Meier material has been published and discussed going back to 1975, and earlier material back to 1946.
“discussed published going back to 1975 46 whatever”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:13:37.5-00:14:04.9 testimony
21
Michael Horn began researching online whether Billy Meier had published scientific information before scientists discovered it, starting in the 1980s.
“starting to do this back in the 80s, in the relatively early days, you'd say, of, you know, online searching”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:14:25.2-00:14:42.3 testimony first hand
22
The Billy Meier material contains a compendium with an unlikely number of confirmed and corroborated items that would exceed chance, probability and hoaxing.
“a compendium with an unlikely number of confirmed and corroborated items that would exceed chance, probability, hoaxing, et cetera.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:15:03.6-00:15:16.3 opinion
23
Eight of Billy Meier's films remain; he had taken more, which disappeared and are understood to have been stolen.
“There's eight films remaining. Billy had taken more. They disappeared. Stolen is what we understand.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:22:49.8-00:22:58.3 testimony
24
Skeptics have said the nighttime wedding cake craft photographs were made using a model painted gold and photographed against a black curtain.
“Skeptics have said, now they've used a model and painted it gold, and they photographed it against the black curtain.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:23:09.2-00:23:17.5 testimony
25
When Chris Locke and Francisco Velate adjusted the contrast and brightness of a black-background gold wedding cake craft photograph in Photoshop, the object appeared to be a large object hovering over a gravelled road with a roughly one-metre-high white road post and a grassy hillside curving up behind it.
“they took one of those photographs where it's pitch black behind the craft ... they adjusted they played with contrast and brightness lo and behold This object ... now appears to be a large object hovering over a graveled road. And on that road there is one of those, I think they're meter high white posts.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:23:17.5-00:24:23.7 testimony second hand
26
Two separate enlargements of the wedding cake craft photograph both produced the same kind of background and an apparent energetic field present around the object.
“two photographs, one that they did, and somebody else did a similar enlargement. ... And both of them got the same kind of background. And both of them also got kind of an energetic field that seemed to be present.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:24:23.7-00:24:43.0 testimony
27
Billy Meier never told people to manipulate his photographs to prove they were real; he presented them simply as a record of what happened.
“He didn't say, well, if you'll do this, you'll see it's real. He never does any of that type of thing. He says, this is what happened. Here are the photographs.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:24:52.6-00:25:00.8 testimony
28
Michael Horn noticed a difference in the configuration of the wedding cake object showing a burnished band and a raised cupola section, and when he asked Billy Meier, Meier explained the extraterrestrials raise that section to create more space, like a room with a shower.
“There's a burnished band here, and nobody's talked about this. ... So I asked Billy ... he says, oh, yes, it's like they have a room, you would say, like with the shower. It's more space up there. They raise that up.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:25:12.4-00:26:07.4 testimony first hand
29
In one of the Billy Meier contact reports, Billy Meier discusses the raised extra-space section of the craft with one of the alleged extraterrestrials, who confirms they have extra space created that way.
“So in one of the contact reports, Billy discusses that with one of the alleged extraterrestrials. ... And E.T. says, yes, well, you know, of course, we have an extra space that is created that way.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:26:07.4-00:26:24.7 testimony
30
Michael Horn inspected an open shed on Billy Meier's property expecting fine Swiss watchmaking model-making tools, but found only a tractor, shovels and gardening equipment.
“I walked over to see what kind of nice fine Swiss watchmaking stuff Billy must have socked away to make these great models. Well, there's a tractor, there's a bunch of shovels, there's a bunch of different kinds of gardening stuff.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:26:24.7-00:26:54.4 testimony first hand
31
Billy Meier's centre is a renovated farmhouse that Billy Meier did a great deal of work on himself single-handedly, having only one hand, before people gathered to study the material and help on the property.
“which is a renovated farmhouse that Billy, quite literally single-handed since he has one hand, did a great deal of work on himself before people came to gather around to study this material”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:26:54.4-00:27:14.9 testimony
32
The Billy Meier contact reports describe one of the extraterrestrials using a device to take readings advising where particular species of tree would grow better.
“there are things describing one of the extraterrestrials using a device saying for this species of tree it will do better over here where these readings are”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:27:28.9-00:28:02.1 testimony
33
A man named Jacobus worked with Billy Meier doing the tractor work at the centre, and Michael Horn nicknamed him Diesel when making their first film.
“There's a very kind of curmudgeony guy there named Jacobus. When we made our first film over there, I started to refer to him as Diesel because this is a guy, all the tractor work”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:28:09.4-00:28:26.5 testimony first hand
34
Billy Meier's centre holds an annual meeting in late May for people around the world who want to come and participate, helping clear the land.
“Late May is spring is coming and all you nice folks can meet each other and help us clear the land at the same time and learn about things.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:28:31.9-00:28:39.7 testimony
35
Billy Meier did not make models himself; he once said he had tried to make a model, and some younger people made models for him that he put in his office.
“He's not a model maker. ... he had said that he had tried to make a model. ... And there was some younger people who made some models for him”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:31:55.5-00:32:13.5 testimony
36
Early analyses of the original wedding cake craft photographs used thermography and detected different heat signatures represented by different colours, done in the 1970s with early computers.
“there are photographs they use some kind of thermography and detected uh different heat signatures represented by different colors ... that that stuff was done in the 70s with earlier computers”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:32:57.0-00:33:19.0 testimony
37
Billy Meier turned over his metal samples and sound recordings for analysis, the sound recordings having been made in a large field with 15 to 20 eyewitnesses.
“He turned over the metal samples, the sound recordings he made out in a big field with, you know, 15, 20 eyewitnesses.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:33:27.1-00:33:35.8 testimony
38
On at least one occasion people came from four kilometres away because of the sounds emanating from above where Billy Meier made his sound recordings.
“people came from four kilometers away because of the sounds that were emanating from above.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:33:35.8-00:33:46.6 testimony
39
Michael Horn was interrogated about the Billy Meier case over roughly five to six months by an investigator, who first approached in January and returned in August, three to five months later.
“i was interrogated if you will uh for over a period of about i guess five six months ... from january oh yes three months and then he the fellow returned in august five months later”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:36:52.3-00:37:23.4 testimony first hand
40
The investigator who examined Michael Horn's Billy Meier case was a retired United States Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) and Department of Defense case supervisor and investigator who initially identified himself only as Joe.
“this was a retired United States Air Force Office of Special Investigation, Department of Defense case supervisor and investigator ... I only knew his name was Joe at this point”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:37:35.8-00:38:25.9 testimony first hand
41
The retired investigator concluded that the Billy Meier case is 100% ironclad authentic and offered to take on any skeptics on Michael Horn's behalf.
“He said, your Billy Meier case is 100% ironclad authentic, and I will take on any skeptics in your behalf.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:38:41.0-00:38:54.9 opinion second hand
42
The retired investigator retracted his offer to take on skeptics after concluding that skeptics in ufology do not understand investigation and have things backwards, and instead offered to write an article on the means, motive and opportunity analysis.
“after he'd taken on a couple skeptics in ufology and he said, sorry, retracting the offer, these people don't understand investigation. They literally have things backwards. So I'm going to write you an article ... means, motive and opportunity”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:38:54.9-00:39:17.9 testimony second hand
43
Billy Meier knew when and where to go to have the opportunity to shoot a whole roll of 35-millimetre photographs and 8-millimetre films, sometimes shooting both at one location, such as for the Pendulum and wedding cake craft.
“this man, knew, maybe still knows, when and where to go that he will have the opportunity to shoot at least a whole roll of 35mm photographs. He will be able to shoot 8mm films ... such as in the pendulum and the wedding cake”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:39:19.7-00:39:58.8 testimony second hand
44
Billy Meier is claimed to have taken approximately 1,200 UFO photographs, eight surviving films and a video.
“if this man has indeed taken 1,200 or so UFO photos, eight films that remain, a video”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:40:07.9-00:40:20.7 testimony
45
The late astronaut Gordon Cooper visually examined Billy Meier's photographs when investigators brought them to his home, and judged them to be real and that Billy Meier is meeting with extraterrestrials.
“visually by, you know, former, the late astronaut Gordon Cooper. The investigators came to my home with these. I know them. We looked at, it's real. This man is meeting with extra.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:40:20.7-00:40:38.6 opinion second hand
46
Some of the photographic locations Billy Meier had to travel to were 40 kilometres from his house, often in snow, daytime or nighttime.
“you have to go over here, it's 40 kilometers from your house. Yes, it's snowing, but just show up at this time. It's daytime, it's nighttime”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:40:50.3-00:41:02.3 testimony
47
There have been authentic attempts to kill Billy Meier, including in his home.
“there are people trying to kill you, and we know that is authentic, even trying to kill him in his home.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:41:02.3-00:41:11.2 testimony
48
Michael Horn started leaving the UFO out of his presentation of the Billy Meier case starting in 2004, having seen information indicating the contact material is more important than the UFOs.
“I started leaving the UFO out of it in a lot of things starting in 2004 because I had already seen certain information that told me, wait a minute, This is more important than UFOs.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:41:50.0-00:42:02.2 testimony first hand
49
Billy Meier's extraterrestrial contacts told him in about 1981 or 1982 that there would be no more photo opportunities of their craft, because the computer age was beginning and people would call him a hoaxer.
“they told Billy in about 1981 82 no more photo ops ... you're entering the computer age and as you will soon learn ... People are already going to call you a hoaxer and a liar”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:42:38.3-00:43:11.2 testimony
50
Billy Meier was instructed to turn over the photos, films, video, sound recordings and metal samples to a team who would find experts to analyse them.
“The photos, the films, the video, the sound recordings, the metal samples. Here, you will turn them over to the team who will find experts in these areas”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:43:12.5-00:43:34.6 testimony
51
Marcel Vogel was a scientist with IBM who, despite reportedly never obtaining formal degrees, was recognised by IBM and is believed to have created the coding on floppy disks.
“Marcel Vogel, a scientist with IBM, was one of those genius types who... never to the best of my knowledge got some kind of degrees ... he's the guy that i believe was creating the coding on floppy disks”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:43:34.6-00:43:53.4 testimony
52
Marcel Vogel concluded on video that with any technology available to him he could not make the Billy Meier metal samples, describing them as made in a cold fusion process.
“he does a video and he says basically with any technology available to me i cannot make this this is made in a cold cold fusion outer space something”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:43:53.4-00:44:06.0 opinion second hand
53
Billy Meier allegedly received samples of metals at different stages of manufacture.
“Billy uh received allegedly samples of metals at different stages of manufacture”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:44:09.2-00:44:18.7 testimony
54
At hundreds of magnifications Marcel Vogel could detect extremely fine laser cuttings in the Billy Meier metal samples, with discrete relationships of elements and characteristics indicating a different composition not produced by heating in an oven.
“when marcel vogel was blowing these things up hundreds of you know magnifications he could detect laser cuttings ... These are discrete relationships of these elements. They're not just blended in as if they were heated in an oven.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:44:19.7-00:44:47.0 observation second hand
55
Analysts of the Billy Meier sound recordings could not duplicate them at the time, saying they might be able to if they had a bank of synthesizers.
“sound recordings at the time they couldn't duplicate them they said well maybe we could if we ran if we had a bank of synthesizers”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:44:49.4-00:45:05.7 testimony
56
The Billy Meier sound recording is a weaving sound that travels through many different frequencies and is available as a downloadable file.
“It's downloadable. ... Because it's this weaving sound that travels through lots of different frequencies.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:45:05.7-00:45:26.8 testimony
57
Joe Tisk worked for the United States Army Air Forces (USAAF).
“comes close to what Joe Tisk, the USAAF guy said.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:47:52.7-00:48:04.1 administrative
58
In investigations, one piece of verifiable evidence that proves a man was elsewhere supersedes otherwise conclusive physical evidence such as fingerprints and identification at a crime scene.
“that supersedes this nice evidence here, which otherwise is a slam dunk from my perspective... one piece of verifiable evidence, you throw out those inconsistencies”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:48:07.0-00:49:23.2 opinion second hand
59
Bob Lazar examined material from the Billy Meier UFO contact case.
“this other material that Bob Lazar has looked at and all”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:49:25.9-00:49:34.1 administrative
60
In the Billy Meier UFO contact case there are about 580 remaining photographs.
“there are basically about 580 remaining photographs.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:49:34.1-00:49:40.2 measurement
61
The Wedding cake UFO has 63 photographs and a video associated with it.
“let's say the WC UFO, there's 63 photos and a video.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:49:40.2-00:49:45.0 measurement
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Joe Tisk assessed the Billy Meier UFO contact case as 100% authentic and said it included not just one authentic photo but rolls of them.
“we have not only one authentic photo, we have roles of them. And as he said to me, your case is 100% authentic.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:50:09.5-00:50:23.5 opinion second hand
63
In 1964 Billy Meier was a vagabond wandering around India with a knapsack.
“how does this vagabond in India in 1964, which Billy was, wandering around with a knapsack”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:50:32.1-00:50:40.6 testimony
64
In 1964 Billy Meier was interviewed in a prominent newspaper in India, and the journalist who interviewed him looked through an album containing 80 UFO photographs.
“Because Billy was interviewed in a prominent newspaper in India, and the journalist who interviewed him is looking through an album with 80 UFO photos in 1964.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:50:40.6-00:50:53.5 testimony
65
At least a dozen of Billy Meier's 1964 India UFO photographs still exist.
“And you still have at least a dozen of those, which we do.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:51:03.8-00:51:07.5 testimony
66
One of Billy Meier's 1964 India UFO photographs appears to contain a hologram.
“And one of them is phenomenally interesting because it appears there's a hologram in the photo and Billy had explained it”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:51:07.5-00:51:18.4 observation
67
Billy Meier took his 1964 photographs with an early version of a Kodak box camera, a relatively primitive 1940s-technology camera.
“these are primitive, taken with an old Kodak... This is 40s technology. And Billy was taking his photographs at that time in 1964 with this early version of a Kodak.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:51:18.4-00:51:54.9 testimony
68
A woman who as a young girl was at an ashram in India in 1964, whose uncle was the head monk there, later became Cambodia's ambassador or representative to the United Nations (UN) for a dozen years before retiring.
“the woman who was a young girl at the ashram in India in 1964 whose uncle was the head monk, she became the UN... the ambassador to the UN or the representative... from Cambodia for a dozen years at the UN. Then she retired.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:51:59.2-00:52:20.2 testimony
69
In the 1990s Ms Chang came forward as an eyewitness to the Billy Meier UFO case, gave a press conference with a former tutor of hers, and explained where the photographs were taken and that there were a hundred eyewitnesses.
“Then she comes forward at a certain point in the 90s... Ms. Chang, you were... You were there... They came forward, they gave a press conference, and she explained where these photographs were taken, that there were a hundred eyewitnesses to them.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:52:21.7-00:52:46.7 testimony
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In one of Billy Meier's India photographs a woman is shown with eight light-in-the-sky UFOs, while the rest of the photographs showed clear disks hovering over things.
“one of the photographs, you see a woman in the photograph with eight, the lights in the sky quality UFOs, the rest of the photographs, they were all clear disks hovering over things.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:52:46.7-00:52:57.1 observation
71
Asket was Billy Meier's second alleged contact person.
“I used to see Billy meeting with this woman, Asket. This was his second alleged contact person.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:52:59.9-00:53:08.7 testimony
72
Ms Chang recalled that as a young girl Asket would sometimes come into her room at night before she fell asleep, hum or sing to her and stroke or brush her hair, and that she would wake feeling she knew more than when she went to sleep.
“Asket would sometimes come into my room at night before I'm falling asleep, and she would hum or sing to me, stroke my hair, brush my hair... I always felt like I knew more when I woke up than when I went to sleep.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:53:08.7-00:53:23.9 testimony first hand
73
Michael Horn talked to 14 eyewitnesses in the Billy Meier case, and saw bullet holes and investigative reports.
“all of that has been documented, and I've talked to 14 eyewitnesses and seen bullet holes and lead investigative reports.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:53:54.1-00:54:01.0 testimony first hand
74
Sightings of the alleged Pleiaren beings by people other than Billy Meier are generally accidental and unintended.
“from what I know, the sightings of the people are generally accidental. They're not intended.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:55:24.8-00:55:33.6 testimony
75
The term 'Pleiadian' was invented by Billy Meier and the beings, and there is no such thing as Pleiadians; the usage was given up after they predicted that people would come forward falsely claiming to be contactees, which came true.
“people called this word pleiadian that Billy and they invented there's no such thing as pleiadians you can flush that and they gave that up after a while because they predicted certain things and it came true about all these people that would come forward claiming to be contactees”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:55:33.6-00:55:59.3 testimony
76
Billy Meier and his first wife had an acrimonious relationship and were married for 30 years before divorcing.
“His ex-wife, who they had very acrimonious relationship 30 years of marriage and then they got divorced”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:56:34.6-00:56:44.7 testimony
77
Billy Meier's ex-wife was one of 17 people around him who claimed to be eyewitnesses and who underwent lie-detector (voice-stress) testing, and they all passed as authentic.
“she had uh was one of 17 people that they did at using the technology of the time voice stress or whatever they did lie detector tests with the people who were around him who claimed to be eyewitnesses and they all passed as being authentic”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:56:44.7-00:57:07.8 testimony
78
Billy Meier has three adult children named Atlantis, Atlant, and Gilgamesha.
“He has three adult children, Atlantis, Atlant, and Gilgamesha.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:57:07.8-00:57:15.3 testimony
79
Atlantis is Billy Meier's stepson.
“but Atlantis is his stepson.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:57:15.3-00:57:23.1 testimony
80
Atlantis is featured in the film The Silent Revolution of Truth, and he is one of Billy Meier's two natural sons.
“Atlantis is featured in one of our films... when we did this film, The Silent Revolution of Truth, one of Billy's two natural sons”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:57:23.1-00:57:49.3 testimony
81
Billy Meier's children saw the craft as children and grew up amid ridicule because their father was called a liar and fabricator, with his father disappearing in the middle of the night and returning to write and publish.
“as children, they have seen these craft... his father's disappearing in the middle of the night and coming back and writing voluminous stuff and publishing information... he and his siblings were subjected to a lot of ridicule.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:57:49.3-00:58:36.1 testimony
82
Billy Meier's material began getting out in Europe starting in 1975, before it was translated into English.
“Starting in 1975, it's getting out in Europe before it's translated into English, and people are already interested or attacking him.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:58:17.9-00:58:26.8 testimony
83
To the best of Michael Horn's knowledge Billy Meier does not see the beings, only the ships, and drew them as a child.
“He never sees, to the best of my knowledge, he doesn't see them. He sees the ships. He's painted or drawn them as a child.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:59:19.0-00:59:26.1 testimony
84
There are over a hundred eyewitnesses to the craft in the Billy Meier case, some of them multiple-time eyewitnesses.
“there's over a hundred eyewitnesses. Some of them are also multiple eyewitnesses.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:59:38.6-00:59:44.8 testimony
85
There were about three or four eyewitnesses to the beings in the Billy Meier case.
“There's eyewitnesses to the beings as well? There were, I think, three or four.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:59:44.8-00:59:50.7 testimony
86
Brunhilde Koya, known as Bruni and either Swiss or German, described turning a corner at a wall Billy Meier built and seeing a huge man reclining on the wall.
“her name was Bruni, and she was either a Swiss or a German, maybe Brunhilde Koya... I was walking along and I turned the corner and where the wall is, Billy built this wall, there is this... huge man reclining on the wall.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:59:55.0-01:00:24.8 testimony second hand
87
The huge reclining man Brunhilde Koya saw was Danil, who was about 4.6 metres tall and who then disappeared.
“it was this guy Danil, and she talks about learning ultimately, I think that he was like 15 feet tall... he was there and then he disappeared.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:00:24.8-01:00:47.2 testimony second hand
88
Danil was not a member of the Pleiaren group.
“He wasn't one of the people in this Pleiaren group.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:00:32.4-01:00:35.8 testimony
89
Billy Meier's wife once walked into a room where Ptaah, the alleged leader of the Pleiaren race, was sitting on the couch, and he was startled and disappeared.
“Meier's wife had walked in while they were still together into the room where the alleged leader of their race ptah pronounced p-t-a-a-h... he's sitting on the couch and unexpectedly she walks in he's startled... She says he disappears.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:00:56.2-01:01:27.9 testimony
90
Billy Meier's wife later changed her story, saying Billy was making models and lying about everything.
“Then later on, she changes her story. Oh, no, Billy's making models. He's lying about everything.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:01:49.2-01:01:54.8 testimony
91
After divorcing Billy Meier, his ex-wife's bank account increased by a five-figure sum in Swiss money, and she became affiliated with known sceptics and defamers of Billy Meier.
“When she was divorced from Billie, and on her own, suddenly her bank account was increased by five figures in Swiss money, and there were some people that now she was affiliated with who were known skeptics and defamers of Billie.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:02:06.9-01:02:24.1 testimony
92
Billy Meier's ex-wife had thrown things at him such as frying pans.
“She had thrown things at him like frying pans”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:02:34.4-01:02:38.3 testimony
93
As a teenage boy Billy Meier ran away from Switzerland because authorities wanted to put him into a juvenile detention centre, after he hit back at a woman who had repeatedly beaten him with a towel since childhood.
“he ran away from switzerland as a teenage boy because they wanted to put him into a juvenile detention center... this woman had grabbed a towel... started to beat him with it and he'd had enough... slapped her around with it”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:02:38.3-01:03:18.4 testimony
94
To avoid legal consequences Billy Meier joined the French Foreign Legion for a while, then chose to return to Switzerland and face the consequences rather than become a trained killer.
“Billy decides that he thinks he'll take a trip to the french foreign legion and avoid some consequences which he did. And he was in the French Foreign Legion for a while... he did not want to become a trained killer, and he would return to Switzerland and face the music”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:03:18.4-01:03:41.4 testimony
95
Billy Meier was said to have walked across the desert and survived it, one of the few people to ever walk out from where he was based, possibly Algiers.
“he trudged across the desert, one of the few people to ever walk out from wherever he was centered there, I don't know if it was Algiers or what, to walk across the desert and survive it.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:03:41.4-01:03:54.1 testimony
96
While crossing the desert Billy Meier was followed by two men also trying to escape, and he sipped from his canteen and shook it to pretend it was still full of water so they would push to catch up and survive the crossing.
“There were two men who were trying to also escape. When they saw him, they followed him, and he had a canteen, and he would sip from it and pretend that it was still full of water when it had already been, and shake it in their faces so that they would want to catch up with him.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:03:54.1-01:04:11.7 testimony
97
Michael Horn has had three sightings of craft in connection with the Billy Meier case.
“And as I've told you, I've had three sightings of craft”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:04:27.8-01:04:34.1 testimony first hand
98
To the best of Michael Horn's knowledge the people photographed on the hill did not see the UFOs in the sky at the time the photographs were taken.
“did the people in the photo see those UFOs as they were there in the sky... To the best of my knowledge, they didn't.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:05:00.1-01:05:10.6 testimony
99
The Billy Meier photo book is in German, but the photographs themselves are captioned in English.
“the photo books in German, but fortunately, as I tell people, the photographs are in English.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:05:14.5-01:05:24.6 observation
100
For one photographic session a man with a name like Liniger insisted on purchasing and loading the film himself and taking it to Bear Photo for development, and Billy Meier agreed; Billy then took 30 or more photographs and had no possession of the film.
“this man said i want to... purchase and load the film into the camera before you take the photos and i want to take that out and be the one who brings it for development at bear photo Billy said that's fine... Billy took whatever, 30 or more photos... Billy stories had no possession of the film”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:05:26.0-01:06:31.0 testimony
101
Investigators including Wendell Stevens had a model of one of the craft made at the MGM studios in Hollywood to test whether Billy Meier was hoaxing his photographs.
“when the investigators wendell stevens and others were trying to also figure out if Billy was hoaxing these photos they wendell had a model made at the mgm studios in hollywood of one of the craft”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:06:31.0-01:06:53.0 testimony
102
Wendell Stevens's team went to the locations Billy Meier specified, had him take photographs with his own camera while they dangled the model and photographed it, to compare results.
“they would go to locations where Billy said, this is where I took this... Billy, you take photos with your camera and we're gonna take photos and we're gonna dangle the model.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:06:59.3-01:07:20.6 testimony
103
Computer photographic analysis of the dangled model photographs showed clearly that it was a model, with no energy fields around it.
“every photograph the computer would look at and... this is a model. There's no question. There's no energy fields around it”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:07:20.6-01:07:41.6 testimony
104
The analysis report on the Billy Meier photographs describes haze effects at distance and thermographic effects around the ship, with a hotter energy at the base of the craft.
“I remember something about haze effects at things at a distance... the thermographic effects around the ship or the ship itself having at the base of it, it was a hotter kind of an energy”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:07:52.0-01:08:27.9 observation
105
Five other photographers besides Billy Meier produced photographs in the case, including one who went by the name Pilger or Der Pilger.
“Five other photographers... they posted photographs taken by somebody that went by the name... Pilger or something. Der Pilger?”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:09:45.9-01:10:01.2 testimony
106
A sceptic known as Der Pilger, who had previously sent Billy Meier nasty material, contacted him, apologised, and reported that he had photographed an object in a field with his own camera.
“he was a skeptic who had also sent Billy some very nasty stuff. And he one day contacts Billy and says, listen, may I come and meet with you? I have some photographs here... I had my camera and I took these photographs and I saw this thing.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:10:04.7-01:10:35.0 testimony
107
Among the witnesses were road workers from Turkey, one of whom was skeptical and nasty toward Billy Meier, could not handle what he saw, and apparently committed suicide.
“There were people who were workers from Turkey who were working on the road. One man was quite skeptical and quite nasty towards him, and he couldn't handle what he saw. And he apparently actually committed suicide. This is in the documentation.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:10:36.0-01:10:50.7 testimony
108
There is no life in the Pleiades and no conditions for habitation there.
“Because there's no life in the Pleiades. There's no conditions for habitation.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:11:33.0-01:11:35.7 testimony
109
The beings Billy Meier speaks of are from a place called the Pleiars, about 500 light years beyond the Pleiades, in an altered time-space configuration.
“it is about 500 light years beyond in what would they call the Pleiars. And it's an altered time-space configuration.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:11:40.7-01:11:49.9 testimony
110
At that time a race of human beings was based underneath the Great Pyramid at Giza.
“there are, at that time, there was a race, there were beings, humans, based underneath the great pyramid at Giza.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:13:31.5-01:13:55.3 testimony
111
The Giza Intelligences are a splinter group that diverged from the same source group the Pleiaren came from, which originated in the constellation of Lyra.
“This is a splinter group that actually diverged from the source group that the Pleiaran people came from, which was originally in the constellation of Lyra”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:13:59.2-01:14:14.4 testimony
112
The original Lyrians were very large people, highly technologically developed, and warrior types who enslaved others.
“these original Lyrians were very large people, highly technologically developed... star wars on steroids warrior types... doing enslaving”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:14:14.4-01:14:32.5 testimony
113
The Giza Intelligences, also called the Befath, had very high technology and wanted to participate in enslaving everybody on the planet but were not large enough in numbers to overwhelm humanity.
“these people, referred to as the Giza intelligences or the Befath... had an agenda. They had very high technology, and they would like to participate in enslaving everybody on the planet. They weren't large enough in numbers... but nothing that could overwhelm us.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:14:43.3-01:15:17.8 testimony
114
The Befath planned to create a false second coming using a telepathic technology called tele-nautic that could beam frequencies through existing radio, television, wire, telegraph and telephone and direct them toward specific persons.
“what they were going to do is create a false second coming. They had a technology whereby in a form of telepathy, it's called tele-nautic, they could beam through existing radio, TV, wire, telegraphs, telephones, they could beam frequencies and direct them towards certain persons.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:15:17.8-01:15:43.9 testimony
115
The Befath had around 745 important political and religious leaders under their influence.
“they had 745 or so important political and religious leaders under various influence”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:15:43.9-01:15:57.2 measurement
116
The Befath also influenced a group called the Thule Society.
“they were also people who could influence and did influence a group called the Thule Society”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:15:57.2-01:16:05.9 testimony
117
The Befath recognised that Billy Meier, who was meeting with the Pleiaren, would be an obstacle to their agenda, and engineered attacks on his life.
“Billy Meier was someone on the planet that uh would be an obstacle to their agenda they knew that he was meeting with let's say the lighter side... and the Pleiarian and uh they engineered some attacks on his life.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:16:05.9-01:16:35.6 testimony
118
During an August holiday season in the Zurich Highlands of Switzerland, ceremonial cannons are fired in the valley.
“during a holiday season, I think it's in August in Switzerland, where there are cannons that are shot off... Billy's living up in the, I guess it's called the Zurich Highlands”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:16:40.4-01:16:59.4 testimony
119
Billy Meier published information about the Giza Intelligences and spaces underneath the pyramid in 1953.
“1953... He published that information... Billy Meier wrote about that in 1953.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:17:33.4-01:17:45.8 testimony
120
Billy Meier was tutored by Sfath for 11 years, and Sfath told him before passing out of life that his next teacher would be a woman more advanced in knowledge who would guide him for the next 11 years.
“after 11 years of being tutored by Sfath, Sfath is going to pass out of life, and he says, you will meet your next teacher, she... And she's more advanced in knowledge than I am in certain things... and she will guide you for the next 11 years.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:17:45.8-01:18:11.3 testimony
121
After Sfath passed away, Billy Meier soon heard a woman's voice speaking in his head, beginning his contact with Asket.
“sure enough, he passes away, and shortly thereafter, very quickly, he hears a woman's voice speaking to him in his head”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:18:11.3-01:18:21.7 testimony
122
As early as 1953 Asket gave Billy Meier prophecies, including that two brothers running for president in America would be assassinated, naming that John Fitzgerald Kennedy would be killed in Dallas, Texas on a specified day.
“As early as 1953, She tells him about the assassination in America of two brothers who will be running for president. The date that it will happen, John Fitzgerald Kennedy will be killed in Dallas, Texas on this day.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:18:23.1-01:18:44.3 testimony
123
Asket's 1953 prophecies to Billy Meier also included the assassination of Robert Kennedy and a list of other kings and figures.
“and then the assassination of his brother robert kennedy and then a whole laundry list of kings and people who she unloads a lot of stuff on him and that's published”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:18:48.3-01:18:58.6 testimony
124
In 1987 Billy Meier was given the Henoch Prophecies, containing about 300 specific predictions, many of which have subsequently happened.
“In 1987, Billy is given something called the Henoch prophecies... It's like 300, I think, specific things.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:19:16.5-01:20:05.1 testimony
125
Henoch is the German version of the name Enoch.
“Henoch being, I guess, the German version of Enoch”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:19:25.3-01:19:30.8 administrative
126
The Henoch Prophecies were written in German in 1987 with the first English version appearing around 2002, and they describe the destruction of the World Trade Center, which occurred in 2001.
“it's in German, supposedly in 87, but the first English is in 2002, I think. And it talks about the destruction of the World Trade Center, but that happened in 2001.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:19:39.9-01:19:53.0 testimony
127
The Henoch Prophecies state the destruction of the World Trade Center by terrorists in 2001.
“The destruction of the WTC by terrorists in 2001 is in there.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:20:33.1-01:20:41.3 testimony
128
In 1989 Billy Meier was told in a conversation with Quetzal that terrorists would fly airplanes into the World Trade Center buildings and that about 3,000 people would be killed.
“1989, he's also told again, terrorists will fly airplanes into these buildings. There's a conversation with Quetzal, one of the other ETs... yes, there will be 3,000 people or so that will be killed.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:20:46.6-01:20:58.9 testimony
129
The 1987 Henoch document mentions the Russians moving their troops to Arkhangelsk in northern Russia in preparation for attacks against Scandinavia.
“the Russians moving their troops to Arkhangelsk in northern Russia-Siberia in preparation for their attacks against Scandinavia.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:20:59.5-01:21:18.6 testimony
130
The Henoch document is said to have been created thousands of years ago by the prophet Enoch.
“we're told that this document actually was created Thousands of years ago by the prophet Enoch.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:21:18.6-01:21:38.6 testimony
131
Quetzal told Billy Meier he was giving present-day names for things in the Henoch document because there was no Russia by name when the document was originally created.
“Quetzal says, I'm giving you the names of things that are, what is referred to in this document, because there was no Russia by name.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:21:38.6-01:21:52.9 testimony
132
Norway, Sweden and Finland all joined NATO, bringing the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO) to Russia's borders, which clarified the prophecy's reasoning about Russian attacks on Scandinavia.
“Norway, Sweden, Finland, all joined NATO, inviting NATO to these borders and coming in.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:22:04.8-01:22:16.0 testimony
133
In 2011 Russia moved and created military bases in Arkhangelsk.
“in 2011, Russia moved and created bases in Arkhangelsk, military bases in Arkhangelsk.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:22:27.9-01:22:42.1 testimony
134
In 2011 Michael Horn visited Billy Meier to make a film featuring about 50 of the prophecies.
“2011 was also a year in which I went and visited Billy and we were making a film where we have like 50 of these prophecies in the film.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:22:42.1-01:22:53.3 testimony first hand
135
In 2011 Billy Meier predicted on film that there would be a vying for power and control at the Arctic, and eventually the Antarctic, with Russia, Canada, the United States, China and Great Britain pushing for control of mineral rights.
“he talks about, oh yes, the Arctic... The vying for power and control at the Arctic, and eventually he says at the Antartic... Russia, Canada, the U.S., China, or Great Britain... all these countries are going to be pushing for control of mineral rights.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:22:55.6-01:23:28.7 testimony
136
Michael Horn sent the Billy Meier information to a man he had known for 50 years, a retired physicist and physician who initially did not believe the case was real.
“I had sent the information to a man I had known for 50 years, physicist, physician, retired, who did not believe this case that I was involved in was even remotely real.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:23:41.4-01:23:56.9 testimony first hand
137
The retired physicist, after reviewing the information, concluded that Billy Meier is not a schizophrenic or a crazy lunatic, and that Billy's account of the Arctic region described a coherent military strategy.
“Billy Meier is not a schizophrenic. He's not a crazy lunatic. He says, I was in the American military... what Billy is saying here is a strategy.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:24:29.6-01:24:55.6 opinion second hand
138
The retired physicist had served in the American military stationed overseas and flown reconnaissance flights over the Arctic area, which is under cloud cover for much of the year.
“I was in the American military, and I was stationed overseas, and we flew flights over this area, reconnaissance. It's under cloud cover for a great part of the year.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:24:40.2-01:24:53.1 testimony second hand
139
Asket picked Billy Meier up, they left the ship and went to the pyramids in Egypt, where she knew the location of an entrance leading deep underground.
“she picks him up and uh they go to egypt they leave the ship and They go to the pyramids and somehow she knows where this entrance is that goes, you can walk way deep down.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:27:24.4-01:27:42.0 testimony
140
Asket and Billy Meier used devices that rendered them invisible, out of phase with the human visual spectrum, during the pyramid visit.
“they also had devices that would render them not visible, out of phase with our visual spectrum.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:27:42.0-01:27:52.6 testimony
141
During the pyramid visit Asket and Billy Meier communicated strictly telepathically, an ability Billy was taught by Sfath as a child.
“they were communicating strictly telepathic... this is something that Billy supposedly was capable of doing since he was taught by Sfath as a child.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:27:55.3-01:28:12.6 testimony
142
Asket explained that armed beings standing in the pyramid corridors were not people but robotic guards programmed to kill anything that came down there.
“we had to silently pass by these... beings that were standing there armed kinds of things and ask us explaining that they're not people these are robotic uh guards and they would kill anything that could come down there”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:28:12.6-01:28:46.1 testimony
143
The chamber Asket and Billy Meier reached was about one to two kilometres below the pyramid, a huge high room containing a large craft and smaller craft.
“it it was one to two kilometers below the pyramid... we enter this huge room of space... there is a large craft... huge and smaller craft.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:28:43.0-01:29:05.1 testimony
144
In the underground chamber Billy Meier saw on a platform what appeared to be the cross of the crucifixion, the spear of destiny, the crown of thorns and bloody nails, but Asket said they were not genuine artifacts; they were made by the Befath and would carbon-date to the crucifixion period if tested.
“oh my gosh, that's the cross of the crucifixion. And there's the spear of destiny, the crown of thorns, the bloody nails... And she says, no, they are not. They were made by these people. But if your scientists on earth would test them, they would carbon date to that period of time.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:29:05.1-01:29:39.9 testimony
145
According to the Billy Meier material the actual crucifixion used a Y-shaped cross, and the real cross would by now have turned to dust given the passage of time.
“It's a Y-shaped cross. This is explained in the material, how that crucifixion actually worked at the time. But that would be already turned to dust”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:29:47.8-01:29:59.5 testimony
146
Reinhold Schmidt, described as a corn merchant from California, had been under the tele-nautic control of the Befath and believed he had been aboard their craft though he never was, because they create what are called real visions.
“a man named Reinhold Schmidt... a corn merchant from California, who has been under the telenoidic control of this Befath. He believes he's been on the board of craft, which he has never been, because they create what are called real visions.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:30:12.0-01:30:42.4 testimony
147
Real visions are a technology in which a person, under tele-nautic hypnotic control, perceives an entirely real-seeming environment and can be given implanted information until brought out of it.
“This is a real vision. And to all appearance, through the perceptions and senses of the human being, they would be in a given room or out somewhere in a space, and everything would be very real to them... until they're brought out of it they could be given informational”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:30:50.2-01:31:19.0 testimony
148
The Befath's agenda was to have an implanted person come forward and produce the artifacts of the second coming, bringing the human beings of Earth together under one controlled world religion.
“the intention was that this man would come forward. He would have been implanted with information... produce the artifacts from the second coming, because the agenda here was to bring people, human beings of earth, together under one religion, world religion, control. So these people, the Befath, had that agenda.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:31:24.4-01:31:59.4 testimony
149
Billy Meier learned of the Befath in 1953, and around 1975 to 1978 the Befath sent a robotically controlled ship toward the centre, the renovated farmhouse where the group lives and works, during an August holiday event when cannons were being fired.
“Billy's learning all this stuff in 53. Now we're about 78 or 75, whatever it is, when they're having this event in Switzerland, the cannons are going off, and the Befath had put a ship in motion towards the center, the farmhouse at Billy renovated, where everybody lives and works from.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:32:00.1-01:32:29.6 testimony
150
The Pleiaren, who knew the attack was coming, had screened one of their craft from any detection directly above Billy Meier's centre.
“because the Pleiaren knew this was coming, they have screened from visible or any form of detection one of their craft right above the center.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:32:29.6-01:32:41.6 testimony
151
The Befath craft planned to synchronise a sonic attack beam with the firing of a cannon in the valley to detonate something such as a water heater and kill everyone in Billy Meier's centre, especially Billy.
“the Bifoth craft comes over and they're synchronizing to when a cannon goes off in the valley, they're going to send a sonic attack beam down to hopefully detonate, blow up a water heater... everybody in there, including, and especially Billy, would be killed.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:32:41.6-01:33:01.7 testimony
152
The Befath's sonic blast hit the ground, after which the Pleiaren, having been attacked, took hold of the robotically controlled Befath ship and eliminated it, removed the Befath people from underneath the pyramid and left no trace of their headquarters.
“the blast from that goes down... hits the ground now technically at this point the play aren have been attacked... they get a hold of that ship, they eliminate it, it was robotically controlled... they remove this whole host of people from underneath, and they close in and basically leave no trace of their... headquarters.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:33:01.7-01:33:51.2 testimony
153
The Pleiaren are non-aggressive but defend themselves appropriately depending on the nature of an attack.
“the play aren have been attacked and they are non-aggressive but they defend themselves appropriately depending on the nature of any kind of an attack”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:33:07.4-01:33:30.3 testimony
154
The Pleiaren and another group carried out a similar elimination action on Mars.
“The Pleiarian and, uh, another group did this on Mars when they, ah, it's another story for another time.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:33:51.2-01:34:00.2 testimony
155
In the film The Silent Revolution of Truth, Billy Meier shows a metal plate that he had placed in an agenda book and secured behind his jacket because he had dreamt the night before that he would be shot at a certain point in the road.
“in our first film silent revolution he shows a metal uh plate that he had put in a an agenda book and you know secured inside behind his jacket because he had dreamt the night before he would get shot he would be shot when he goes to hits a certain point in the road and this is where the bullet would hit”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:34:28.9-01:34:58.4 testimony
156
The shooter who fired at Billy Meier appeared, shot, disappeared, and later contacted Billy Meier saying he was the person who did it and wished to apologise.
“and the person did appear and shot and disappeared and later contacted him ... Billy has strange things to say, I am the person that did that. I would like to apologize.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:34:28.9-01:35:10.4 testimony
157
Billy Meier told the shooter who had apologised that he could come over and that they would not call the police.
“And Billy said, well, you can come over and we're not going to call the police or anything in New York.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:35:03.0-01:35:10.4 testimony
158
Someone hiding in the bushes with a long gun shot at Billy Meier and missed.
“there was someone in the bushes with a long gun who shot at him and missed”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:35:19.5-01:35:32.7 testimony
159
Billy Meier owned an impressive weapon cabinet and carried his own weapons for self-defence.
“And Billy was carrying, packing one of his weapons, and we show his weapon cabinet is pretty impressive.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:35:32.7-01:35:40.6 testimony
160
Billy Meier said his weapons included a bulldog revolver and a Kalashnikov.
“And Billy says, no, and this is my bulldog revolver, and this is my Kalashnikov.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:35:43.5-01:35:52.3 testimony
161
In an image of Billy Meier as the phantom in the Middle East, he wears an Arab headdress and a Swiss jacket and carries a .357 Magnum and a knife.
“when you see his image from being the phantom in the Middle East, and he's got the Arab headdress, he's got the Swiss jacket, and he's packing a .357 Magnum and a knife”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:35:52.3-01:36:09.6 testimony
162
Billy Meier brought in serial killers and mass murderers without harming them.
“this is the guy who was bringing in serial killers and mass murderers without harming them”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:35:52.3-01:36:09.6 testimony
163
Billy Meier said he never killed anybody and that when people shot at him he wounded them so the authorities could come and take them.
“it was actually cute, I never killed anybody. If they shot at me, I wound them so the authorities could come and take them.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:36:12.2-01:36:22.7 testimony
164
Someone managed to put a slug through Billy Meier's left arm early on.
“somebody had managed to put a slug through what was his left arm early on”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:36:22.7-01:36:31.0 testimony
165
Witnesses have attested that while moving a delivered cast iron stove, Billy Meier stopped a tractor near it, and the stove rose into the air, came over, and settled by itself.
“Billy was uh bringing the tractor we were going to move the cast iron stove that had been delivered and then Billy stopped the tractor near it or something and he sat in it and then the stove came up in the air and came over and it settled”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:36:33.5-01:37:01.4 testimony second hand
166
Billy Meier had telekinetic ability.
“That he had telekinetic ability? ... yes”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:37:04.5-01:37:09.1 opinion
167
Billy Meier had many abilities and earned his abilities.
“he had a lot of abilities ... he earned his ability”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:37:09.1-01:37:29.7 opinion
168
A woman reported that Billy Meier was sitting in the house, then she walked out the back and found him sitting there although he had not passed her.
“there was a woman who said um something about Billy was over here in the house sitting ... she went out and walked out back and he was sitting there and he had not passed her”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:37:29.7-01:37:57.0 testimony second hand
169
Billy Meier performed small tricks for people occasionally in the early days but had to stop doing that past a certain point.
“he did some of this some little tricks for people occasionally early on because he could but that was he had to not uh do that past a certain point”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:37:33.5-01:37:57.0 testimony
170
In one of the more recent assassination attempts, Billy Meier stepped out, stood with a water bottle in a shirt pocket, and a bullet hit the bottle.
“one of the more recent assassinations he steps out and he sees somebody and he stands there and a bullet comes and he had put a water bottle in a shirt pocket and he stood there apparently and the bullet hits them”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:37:57.0-01:38:24.5 testimony
171
Billy Meier had his arm ripped off his body and all of his teeth smashed at the same time, and was delirious for 30 days because the remainder of his arm was amputated without anaesthetic.
“you have your arm ripped off your body and all of your teeth smashed at the same time, and you're delirious for 30 days because they amputate what remains of your arm without anesthetic”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:38:24.5-01:38:42.8 testimony
172
As a child Billy Meier was taken and shown things and allowed to be in a craft on his own to go places.
“yet you've been able to, as a child, be taken and shown things and allowed to be in a craft on your own to go places”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:38:42.8-01:38:59.0 testimony
173
At the current count there are 928 public Billy Meier contact reports, with many others being private information between Billy Meier and the extraterrestrials.
“With, at the current counting, 928 public. Contact reports. ... Many others, it's just private information between him and them.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:39:21.1-01:39:34.3 testimony
174
The Billy Meier contact reports number each official meeting and also number every sentence that the extraterrestrials speak.
“they not only number each of these contact reports, meaning this is our official meeting, 928 contact report, they number every sentence that the extraterrestrials speak”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:39:34.3-01:39:52.8 testimony
175
The Billy Meier contact reports were published starting in German, then translated into English, Italian and other languages.
“they published starting in german then it gets to english and italian and other languages every contact 215 sentence one”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:39:52.8-01:40:11.0 testimony
176
The Henoch Prophecies foretold Russia moving its troops to Arkhangelsk.
“what about the information about Russia moving its troops to Arkhangelsk.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:40:20.1-01:40:41.1 testimony
177
The Henoch Prophecies foretold that Switzerland would abandon its true neutrality and align itself with the United Nations and/or the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, opening it to being ultimately attacked and invaded by powers from the East, meaning China and Russia.
“Switzerland, the land of peace and neutrality, is going to make a big mistake. They will abandon their true neutrality and align themselves and work with the UN and or NATO, which will open them to being ultimately attacked and invaded by the powers from the East, meaning ... China ... and Russia”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:40:41.1-01:41:15.3 testimony
178
The Henoch Prophecies foretold that Switzerland would be safe for a long period of time.
“While Switzerland will be very safe for a long period of time, but no.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:41:15.3-01:41:23.4 testimony
179
The book containing the Henoch Prophecies was published in approximately 2004.
“And they published that book, I think, in 2004.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:41:23.4-01:41:27.5 testimony
180
The 1,800-page UFO book given to Michael Horn came from a man who created a false career pretending he was an Andromedan contactee, identified as Alex Collier.
“the 1,800 pages that had been given to me by a guy actually... who created a false career pretending he was an Andromedan contactee. ... I'm now Alex Collier.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:43:10.3-01:43:48.8 testimony
181
In 1982 Billy Meier gave a radio interview with an English-speaking man on a Swiss radio station network, before he had an accident that caused a brain injury.
“in 1982, Billy gives a radio interview with an English-speaking man on a Swiss radio station network or something. ... This is before he had also an accident where he had a brain injury.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:45:05.3-01:45:51.8 testimony
182
In the 1982 Swiss radio interview Billy Meier said a third world war was going to happen, that it could not be avoided, and was a certainty.
“he is asked, well, about a third word rolling bill, he says, yes, that is going to happen. It cannot be avoided. It's certainty. It's a prediction.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:45:55.4-01:46:12.4 testimony
183
In the 1982 Swiss radio interview Billy Meier said a third world war would involve the big attacks and conflict between the United Kingdom and Russia, with other countries including Iran, Israel, Iraq and the Falklands.
“it's going to be the big attacks, the conflict between the UK and Russia. And other countries involved will be. Iran, Israel, Iraq, and the Falklands, the Falklands, 1982.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:46:26.6-01:46:52.5 testimony
184
Within the week to ten days before the interview, an article in the American news reported that Donald Trump had an issue with the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation and that the Falklands had come up again.
“There was an article that passed something in the American news about Trump. ... He's got an issue with NATO, and there's something about the Falklands has come up again.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:46:52.5-01:47:08.8 testimony
185
Researchers of the Billy Meier material have gathered over 250 to 300 specific error-free examples of accurate predictions.
“I think we're over 250 to 300 specific error-free examples”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:47:47.2-01:47:56.5 opinion
186
In 2006 in Switzerland Billy Meier told Michael Horn that the Iraq war was fundamentally not about oil but about the dollar, and that if things went a certain way one may as well roll cigarettes with paper money.
“In 2006, I'm in Switzerland, standing and talking with Billy ... Billy, fundamentally, was the Iraq war about oil? ... Fundamentally, no. It's about your dollar. And if things go a certain way, you may as well roll cigarettes with your paper money.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:48:25.7-01:48:59.9 testimony first hand
187
As early as 1946 and 1948, Billy Meier's teacher said that a megalomaniacal Hitler-like dictator would arise in the United States who would be incompetent, full of himself, and cause great trouble in the world.
“as early as 46, 48. His teacher, and he's written this all down and there's numbers, is talking about how a megalomaniacal Hitler-like dictator will arise in the U.S. who will be just full of himself, an incompetent leader who will cause great trouble in the world.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:49:25.1-01:49:48.3 testimony
188
Billy Meier's teacher said in 1946 and 1948 that the future United States dictator would threaten Persia, China, Russia and other countries, create problems in the seas with barricades and illogical tariffs to punish people.
“And he mentions Persia, China, Russia, and other countries. He will threaten them. He will create problems in the seas and barricades and tariffs, foolish illogical tariffs to punish people.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:49:55.4-01:50:15.3 testimony
189
The Pleiaren gave Billy Meier the names of kings who would be assassinated, telling him that people would think the assassinations came from one source but they would actually be carried out by the Israeli secret service (Mossad).
“In the 70s, for instance, they would tell him— the names uh they they gave him the names of kings uh this king uh is going to be assassinated ... but it will be the israeli mossad they said it they said their secret service”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:51:29.8-01:51:59.3 testimony
190
The Pleiaren told Billy Meier that in retaliation for the terrorism of the Israelis there would be terrorism from Hamas and Hezbollah.
“in retaliation for the terrorism of the Israelis, there will be terrorism from the Hamas and Hezbollah”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:52:01.3-01:52:14.5 testimony
191
The Pleiaren material states that America is behind most of the problems of the world and the terrorism emanating from its seeking of worldwide hegemony since the inception of the country.
“when they start talking about things like America is behind most of the problems of the world and the terrorism that has emanated from their seeking— Hegemony, worldwide control as it's been since the inception of that country”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:54:12.5-01:54:28.7 testimony
192
The Pleiaren material describes the origin of the Israelis as peoples who were never a single people but came together under the influence of an extraterrestrial whose name was known then as Jehovah.
“they've also described the origin of the Israelis, and they've gone to Israelites to say they never were a people. They were peoples who came together under the influence of an extraterrestrial whose name was known then as Jehovah.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:54:31.6-01:54:48.0 testimony
193
The Pleiaren material describes a lineage of extraterrestrials including Aros, Aris II, Jehovah and other names, many of whom were connected.
“they had information on a lineage of extraterrestrials, Aros. one in Aris II and Jehovah and other names, and many of these were connected. these intelligences.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:54:48.0-01:55:03.1 testimony
194
In 1958 Billy Meier spoke about first America and then the European Union, which did not exist yet in 1958, biochipping every man, woman and child on the planet to control them so that their every movement to the metre could be determined and controlled.
“when Billy in 1958 speaks about first America and then the EU, which didn't exist yet in 58, will biochip every man, woman, and child on the face of the planet to control them so well that their every movement to the meter, to the inch, can be determined and controlled.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:55:40.0-01:56:07.1 testimony
195
In 1958 Billy Meier said that things would develop so that people would lose their ability to determine the truth and their eyes would no longer be able to know if what they are looking at is real because the deceptions would be so effective.
“when he in 1958 also says that the people, that things will develop so that the people will lose their ability to determine the truth. Their eyes will no longer be able to know if what they're looking at is real. It will be so effective, the deceptions.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:56:09.3-01:56:24.5 testimony
196
Billy Meier said that Edgar Cayce was a genuine seer who had a form of schizophrenia whereby he could see only in a sleep-like state, with a specialty mainly in medical matters.
“And Billy had said Edgar Cayce was a genuine seer. It was an interesting form of a kind of a schizophrenia whereby only in this state, when he'd go to sleep or whatever, he could see. And his specialty, I think was mainly medical things”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:57:04.3-01:57:25.2 testimony
197
Billy Meier said that with Nostradamus people do not interpret correctly, and that some things thought to have happened or be happening are still in the future in Nostradamus' prophecies.
“He even said that with Nostradamus, he says, people don't interpret correctly. Some of the things that they think either have happened or are happening are still futural with Nostradamus' prophecies.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 01:57:34.2-01:57:48.3 testimony
198
Billy Meier follows a lineage of prophets and is the seventh and final person to deliver these messages.
“he follows like this sort of long lineage of prophets ... he's like the seventh one. ... Seventh and final person.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:00:44.3-02:00:57.7 testimony
199
In the Billy Meier material there were a few other people who could potentially have taken the role of prophet, one or two of whom were made aware of it and declined, and some who may have died.
“there was a few other people potentially who could have done this gig possibly ... I think there was one or two who were made aware of it somehow, who declined it. Some who may have died, whatever.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:01:08.8-02:01:32.1 testimony
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Michael Horn suggested that an unnamed woman who could have taken the prophet role might have been Helena Blavatsky.
“because they didn't name who the woman was, but I think it could have been Madame Blavatsky. Possibly.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:01:37.5-02:01:46.1 opinion
201
The prophets prior to Billy Meier in the lineage are Enoch, Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jmmanuel, and Muhammad.
“Well, you've got Enoch or Henoch, Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Emmanuel. We'll get back there. Muhammad and Billy.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:01:48.8-02:02:01.3 testimony
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According to the Billy Meier material, the real man who was crucified and falsely named Jesus Christ was named Jmmanuel.
“Emmanuel, was crucified, that's the name of the man according to the Meier material, the real man who was falsely named Jesus Christ.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:02:37.6-02:02:47.8 testimony
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Isaiah 7:14 says the man's name shall be called Jmmanuel, not Jesus, and Matthew 1:23 in the New Testament also says his name shall be called Jmmanuel.
“So we go, 714 Isaiah, and his name shall be called Emmanuel, not Jesus. Well, what about the New Testament? Matthew 1.23, and his name shall be called Emmanuel.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:02:50.5-02:03:06.7 testimony
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Around 1963 or 1964 Billy Meier, together with a Greek Orthodox priest named Isa Rashid, dug into a hole at the base of a hillside on the outskirts of Jerusalem which turned out to be an ancient tomb.
“Well, Billy Meier, along with a Greek Orthodox priest, I think it's about 63, 64, right in there, telepathically, our lid story goes, the outskirts of Jerusalem, there's a hillside ... at the base of it, there's a hole in there. ... The man that he is with is named or called Isa Rashid.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:03:07.4-02:03:55.5 testimony
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Isa Rashid spoke some Middle Eastern languages and could read and write Aramaic and German.
“He speaks some Middle Eastern languages. He also can read and write Aramaic and German.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:03:40.2-02:03:45.9 testimony
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In the tomb outside Jerusalem, Billy Meier and Isa Rashid found resin-encrusted, animal-skin-wrapped scrolls written in Aramaic.
“They find resin-encrusted, animal-wrapped, animal skin wrapped scrolls. written in Aramaic.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:04:13.5-02:04:30.2 testimony
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Billy Meier did not read or write Aramaic, so he asked Isa Rashid to translate the scrolls and send him the translation.
“Billy does not read and write Aramaic. He knows what Isa is here for, and he says, okay, you will take this and translate, please, and send me the translation.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:04:30.2-02:04:43.0 testimony
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Within about five or six years Billy Meier received from Isa Rashid the first third or so of the translated document.
“And within about five or six years, something like that, he gets the first third or so of this overall document.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:04:50.3-02:05:00.4 testimony
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Isa Rashid told Billy Meier that powerful people in Jerusalem knew he had something of interest, so he was taking his family and the scrolls and leaving.
“there are some powerful people in Jerusalem who know that I've got something of interest. I'm taking my family. We'll take the scrolls. We've got to get out of here.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:05:00.4-02:05:20.4 testimony
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Isa Rashid and his family travelled to a refugee village in Lebanon and sequestered the scrolls in a wall there for safety.
“They travel, they get into Lebanon, into a village in Lebanon, and there is a kind of, it's a refugee village or something. ... They sequester the scrolls in a wall there for safety.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:05:20.4-02:05:34.5 testimony
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Within one week the Israelis razed the refugee village in Lebanon to the ground, and the scrolls were lost while Isa Rashid and his family escaped with their lives.
“Within one week, The Israelis pick of all the refugee villages, that one to breeze to the ground, burn, destroy, everywhere. Rashid and his family get out with their lives ... The scrolls are gone.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:05:34.5-02:05:50.8 testimony
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Around 1974 Billy Meier learned that Isa Rashid and his family had been machine gunned to death in Baghdad, ostensibly by the Mossad.
“a few years later, I think it's around 1974, he learns that Issa Rashid and his family have been machine gunned to death in Baghdad, ostensibly by the Mossad.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:05:56.0-02:06:13.1 testimony
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Billy Meier received the Talmud of Jmmanuel text in German and later discovered that Isa Rashid had changed certain things based on his own religiosity because they did not fit with his beliefs.
“Billy has received all of this stuff in German. ... he discovers later more that Isa Rashid had changed certain things based on his own religiosity. There were certain things in here that didn't fit with his beliefs.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:06:13.1-02:06:38.2 testimony
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According to Celestial Teachings, the Talmud of Jmmanuel resolves over 350 inconsistencies in the book of Matthew, 150 of which were not even under discussion at the time of publication.
“this Talmud manual is what it gets called. resolves over 350 inconsistencies in the book of Matthew, 150 of which were not even under discussion at the time this was published.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:07:34.0-02:07:54.0 testimony
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In the Talmud of Jmmanuel, Jmmanuel does not float up to the sky, unlike the biblical account.
“Well, this guy isn't floating up to the sky.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:08:18.7-02:08:25.8 testimony
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In the prophecy section, chapter 25 of the Talmud of Jmmanuel, Jmmanuel excoriates the scribes and Pharisees, including calling them a generation of vipers.
“this is where in the prophecy section, chapter 25, as I recall ... He is excoriating the scribes and Pharisees. This stuff made it into the I think, into the New Testament ... generation of vipers and all this.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:08:36.9-02:08:56.9 testimony
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In the Talmud of Jmmanuel, Jmmanuel accused the scribes and Pharisees of having deceived and murdered their friends in order to acquire their belongings.
“you have deceived and murdered your friends so that you could acquire their belongings he's laying it out for them”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:09:08.2-02:09:18.2 testimony
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In the Talmud of Jmmanuel, Jmmanuel said that in 500 years another true prophet named Muhammad would come carrying the same teaching, and that unless their distant descendants came to a just and conciliatory peace it would be a bloody time and few would survive.
“he says in 500 years comes another true prophet who like me will carry the same teaching ... Unless your distant descendants and the distant descendants of this prophet, whose name will be Muhammad, can come to a just and conciliatory peace with each other, it will be a bloody time and few will survive.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:09:19.1-02:09:53.5 testimony
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In the Talmud of Jmmanuel, Jmmanuel foretold that a false and evil cult would gather around the prophet Muhammad and falsify his true teaching.
“And there will be also a false and evil cult who will gather around this prophet and falsify his true teaching.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:09:53.5-02:10:03.8 testimony
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The Goblet of the Truth contains the true teaching of Muhammad along with the true teaching of the previous prophets, showing the teaching is the same.
“It's also contained in a book called The Goblet of the Truth, along with the true teaching of the previous prophets. And essentially, it shows you how the teaching is the same.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:10:15.9-02:10:26.9 testimony
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According to the Billy Meier material, Muhammad did not marry nine-year-old girls, was a champion for the rights of women, and did not believe in a jihad of slaughtering enemies.
“And Muhammad didn't marry nine-year-old girls. He was a champion for the rights of women and a protector of women. He did not believe in a jihad where you go and start slaughtering your enemies, according to this information in the Meier case.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:10:26.9-02:10:43.1 testimony
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According to the Billy Meier material, Muhammad's mission was to stem the rise and power of the Catholic Church, which otherwise would have fully enslaved the world.
“his mission actually was to stem the rise and power of the Catholic Church, which otherwise would have fully enslaved the world.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:10:43.1-02:10:52.4 testimony
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Billy Meier, after decades, said that the term spiritual teaching was an incorrect word, and that what is meant is the creation energy teaching.
“It is what was formerly called the spiritual teaching. And then Billy finally, after decades says, this is an incorrect word. ... This is the creation energy.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:11:20.5-02:11:42.5 testimony
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According to the creation energy teaching, there are no deities and none of the religions are founded on a true deity that created everything.
“There's no deities, none of the religions are founded on a true deity that created everything.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:11:44.7-02:11:52.6 testimony
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The creation energy teaching is a teaching the Pleiaren have access to at levels that humans do not, and which Billy Meier did not create.
“the teaching, which he didn't create, and which is a teaching the Pleiaren have access to and levels of it that we don't”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:14:24.8-02:14:52.2 testimony
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Billy Meier said that the meaning of life is the evolution of consciousness.
“Billy has said, the meaning of life is the evolution of consciousness”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:14:24.8-02:14:55.6 testimony
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According to the creation energy teaching, the people connected to the Giza Intelligences and other gods lorded it over others and played with primitive humans because they could.
“instead of us lording it over others, as the people connected to the Giza intelligences and the other gods did oftentimes because they could and they played with the primitive humans”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:14:55.6-02:15:13.9 testimony
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Billy Meier wrote a book called The Might of the Thoughts about how the mind works and how thinking works.
“Billy has written a phenomenal book called the might of the thoughts and how the mind works how thinking works”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:16:42.5-02:17:01.0 testimony
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According to The Might of the Thoughts, thoughts precede feelings, and most thinking is done below the conscious level.
“Thoughts precede feelings. Most thinking is done below the conscious level”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:17:22.1-02:17:36.0 testimony
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Billy Meier has written over 60 books, of which only about a dozen are translated into English.
“he's written over 60 books, and only maybe a dozen are translated into English.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:18:33.3-02:18:39.2 testimony
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Billy Meier has written about reincarnation, rebirth, death and dying, fluidal forces and swinging waves.
“He's written about reincarnation, rebirth, death, and dying. fluidal forces, swinging waves.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:18:39.2-02:18:47.6 testimony
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Ed Dames taught Michael Horn that even in the world of disinformation you get 20 per cent of the truth wrapped in a lie.
“even in the world of disinformation, you get 20% of the truth and you wrap it in a lie. That was taught to me by a guy who passed away recently, a guy named Ed Dames”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:19:06.6-02:19:20.7 testimony first hand
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Ed Dames died recently.
“a guy who passed away recently, a guy named Ed Dames”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:19:15.5-02:19:20.7 testimony
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Michael Horn helped create Ed Dames' first technical remote viewing home study course, working with him over a period of more than a year.
“I helped create his first technical remote viewing home study course. ... I worked with him over a period of a bit more than a year.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:19:23.0-02:19:31.7 testimony first hand
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Ed Dames taught Michael Horn and two other people on the production team how to do remote viewing, and they were able to do it.
“he taught me and two other people involved in the production team how to do it. And we could do it.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:19:38.7-02:19:44.2 testimony first hand
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Before meeting the Hawaii production company owner, Michael Horn used remote viewing to draw an oblong face with curly hair down the sides and square glasses, and the man who appeared matched the drawing.
“i drew this oblong face and curly hair down the sides and square glasses and stuff these features i swear if you will we get there the door opens up and this guy comes out”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:20:31.4-02:20:58.7 testimony first hand
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Michael Horn was an expert witness in a remote viewing lawsuit due to having studied all of Ed Dames' material.
“it was a lawsuit then. People sued each other, and I was an expert witness for having studied all of his...”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:21:14.6-02:21:42.6 testimony first hand
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Michael Horn was called as an expert witness in a lawsuit involving Ed Dames and reviewed every transcript of every prediction Ed Dames made.
“I was called by the producer as the expert witness because I then, while this was in process, I went through every transcript of every prediction that Ed made.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:22:41.3-02:23:03.4 testimony first hand
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Michael Horn spent about a year with Ed Dames and saw nothing accurate from his remote viewing.
“I was hanging out with him for about a year. ... And it was like I didn't see anything accurate from him.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:23:26.2-02:23:53.0 testimony first hand
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In an incident where one or two United States Air Force jets were lost, Ed Dames was certain where the crash had occurred, but the wreckage was found in a different state.
“There had been an incident where one or two U.S. Air Force jets had been lost. ... He was absolutely positive where it crashed and all this stuff. They found it in a different state.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:23:28.9-02:23:46.7 testimony first hand
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The Billy Meier contact reports name Ed Dames's company SciTech as being more about making a lot of money than authentic remote viewing.
“They said that this company, SciTech, they named it, was basically more about making a lot of money there was a there was authentic remote viewing”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:24:14.9-02:24:33.3 testimony
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The modern Billy Meier contacts intended for public consumption began in the 1970s, around 1975.
“the contacts began in terms of the modern day, the stuff for public consumption and all in the 70s, 75.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:26:52.6-02:27:01.6 testimony
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People in other countries also took photographs of the craft as part of the agenda to spread the Billy Meier case worldwide.
“people in other countries who had taken photographs of these craft so okay you're going to have the photos out there”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:27:32.4-02:27:54.5 opinion
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In the Billy Meier teaching, a person's creation energy form may already have had as many as two million incarnations as different people.
“their creation energy form, their essence, may have already had two million incarnations as different people.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:30:01.8-02:30:27.5 testimony
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In the Billy Meier teaching, reincarnation is real but a person is never the same person again and does not remember past lives.
“there's such a thing as reincarnation, but it's not what we think. We're never the same person. We don't remember past lives.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:30:31.7-02:30:40.2 testimony
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One of the laws of creation is that a spirit form that dies on a given planet reincarnates a new personality on the planet on which it dies.
“One of the laws is that a spirit form that dies on a given planet reincarnates, reanimates a new personality on the planet on which they die.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:31:10.2-02:31:22.8 testimony
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If a spirit form dies in space or on a lifeless planet, creation law attracts it to the next inhabited planet with evolving human life at a commensurate level, none of which are in our solar system.
“The spirit forms will be attracted through creation law to an inhabited planet, none of which are in our solar system, where there is evolving human life at a level that is commensurate”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:31:22.8-02:32:04.6 testimony
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The reincarnation of a spirit form to its next planet is governed by the evolutionary level of the human life forms there, not by the planet's electromagnetic field.
“Not as such as I understand it, because it's more the evolutionary level of the human life forms on that planet.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:32:54.3-02:33:08.8 opinion
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In the Billy Meier teaching there is nothing paranormal; phenomena either happen according to known laws, according to laws not yet known, or are hoaxes.
“There's nothing paranormal. There are things that happen according to known laws, or we don't yet know the law, or it's a hoax.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:33:36.5-02:33:43.5 opinion
250
Neither Billy Meier nor the Pleiaren know the answer to what came before the beginning, as the human brain can only go so far.
“even the Pleiaron, I asked him, said, do the Pleiaron know the answer to it? No, the human brain can only go so far.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:35:08.2-02:35:26.0 testimony
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In the Billy Meier teaching, the evolution of a human being proceeds through countless millions of lifetimes towards a more refined, etheric, semi-physical creation-energy form, until eventual incarnation is no longer into a physical form but into the lower levels of creational energy.
“We will go through countless millions of lifetimes and years, and move towards a more refined more etheric ... until we are at a level of development where the next if you will incarnation or the reincarnation spirit isn't into a physical form. It's into the lower levels of the creational energy.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:35:31.6-02:36:08.2 testimony
252
Billy Meier has written an entire book, Arahat Athersata, dealing with how anything came into being.
“There's the Arahat Atharzata. Billy's got a whole book on there.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:36:08.2-02:36:13.0 testimony
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Billy Meier declined an offer from the Pleiaren to give him a replacement arm, saying he is an earth person and that a regrown left arm would risk a military kidnapping and dissection.
“they offered to give him a fake arm. No, thank you. I'm an earth person. ... if suddenly I appear with a left arm, how long is it going to take for some military to kidnap my butt and start taking me apart?”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:36:41.9-02:37:02.1 testimony
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In approximately August 2023 it was reported in Peru that seven-foot-tall giants were abducting and harming people, including women from villages.
“I think it was in August perhaps of 2023, where it was reported in Peru that seven-foot-tall giants were abducting and maybe even harming people, women from the village or whatever.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:37:25.6-02:37:55.4 hearsay
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A 1976 Billy Meier prophecy, sourced from a higher creation-energy level called the Petale, foretold a time when seven-foot-tall giants would emerge from centuries-long underground hiding places in Peru to molest the people there.
“1976 it's in books and everything else ... this is the petali level ... they spoke about the time that will come in Peru when the seven-foot-tall giants will emerge from their centuries-long hiding places underground to molest the people there.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:38:01.5-02:38:54.0 testimony
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The 1976 Billy Meier prophecy about the Peru giants also tied in an earthquake in Udine, Italy.
“And there's something tied into a quake in Udine, which I think is, or Udine, in Italy.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:38:54.0-02:39:00.6 testimony
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The reported Peru giants event occurred approximately 47 years after the Billy Meier prophecy was published, matching its details of location and the size of the people.
“that verifiably 47 years or whatever it is after that was published, that event occurred right down to where and the size of the people.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:39:01.9-02:39:21.6 testimony
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The reported Peru giants were described as redheaded or red-tinged.
“I think they also said they were redheaded or red tinged or something.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:39:21.6-02:39:25.3 hearsay
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Michael Horn does not believe in Billy Meier or UFOs but instead has evidence from his own experience, holding that when you know something you do not have to believe in it.
“i've been asked if i believe in Billy Meier believe in ufos and i've said no When you know something, you don't have to believe in it. ... rather than belief, I have the evidence in my experience”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:42:05.3-02:42:29.2 opinion first hand

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