Brief
Plato
The claims the writer was given for Plato, in the order they were given.
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The Greek mathematician Plato was one of the first to popularise the five Platonic solids, having borrowed them from the earlier insights of Pythagoras.
“a tetrahedron is one of the so-called "Platonic solids," so named because the Greek mathematician Plato was one of the first to popularize them (although he actually "borrowed" them from the earlier insights of Pythagoras).”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch12:126586-126797 opinion first hand
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The pre-Egyptian, potentially high-tech global civilisation described in the Pyramid Texts became known in later Greek tradition, transmitted through Plato's Egyptian sources, as "Atlantis."
“This pre-Egyptian and potentially high-tech global terrestrial civilization (with mysterious extraterrestrial connections, also identified within the texts) was what was known later in the descendant Greek tradition—through Plato’s own Egyptian sources—as “Atlantis.””
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch12:16338-16595 observation second hand
3
Plato was believed to be the issue of a peculiar coupling.
“Plato was also believed to be the issue of some sort of peculiar coupling”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:45422-45487 hearsay
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Aimé Michel considers that the counterculture expressed through the Apocalypse (Book of Revelation) eventually triumphed and Plato was forgotten for a thousand years.
“A short time—a very short time—elapsed, the counterculture triumphed, and Plato was forgotten for a thousand years. Is this what is happening again?”
THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch14:4226-4368 opinion second hand
5
Whitley Strieber considers it beyond dispute that a crisis occurred whose memory still lingered in the fifth century BCE when Plato was writing.
“That there was a crisis, and that its memory still lingered in the fifth century BCE when Plato was writing, seems to me now to be beyond dispute.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:33301-33439 opinion first hand
6
Whitley Strieber believes that, given what is now known about the dating of the Younger Dryas and how it unfolded, Plato was reporting something handed down in memory rather than confabulated.
“now that we know more about the dating of the Younger Dryas and how it unfolded, it is clear that Plato was reporting something that had been handed down in memory and not confabulated”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:33621-33793 opinion first hand
7
Whitley Strieber proposes that a more developed civilisation existing near the oceans at the time would have experienced sudden inundations from the sea rising and submerging it, rather than the land sinking into the sea as Plato assumed.
“If a more developed civilization existed near the oceans then, it would have experienced some very sudden inundations as a result of this event. It wasn't, as Plato assumed, that it sank into the sea, but rather that the sea rose and submerged it.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:34540-34784 opinion first hand
8
Jesse Michels considers the works of Plato and the Bible probably more valuable than recent contemporary works, by the Lindy effect measure of how long an idea has survived.
“And so Plato and the Bible are probably more valuable than like, I don't know the pet shop boys or something, you know, some like random contemporary thing.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:21:48.9-00:21:58.4 opinion first hand
9
Jason Samosa places the works of Plato, the Gospels and Confucius at the top of human literature, noting they all emerged at roughly the same period in human history.
“at the very top of that stack, you've got the Plato's and the Gospels and these books... You can see some of it in Confucius, you can see it in the Gospels. It's all kind of popping up at the same time in human history, and it's all beautiful and impactful.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:29:26.5-00:29:48.0 opinion first hand
10
Plato wrote two works containing the Atlantis story and was supposed to write three; the Timaeus is complete and the Critias is only halfway complete.
“Plato wrote two works. He was supposed to write three. Uh, one is called the Timaeus. One is called Critias and Critias is halfway complete.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:38:13.4-01:38:22.0 testimony first hand
11
The Atlantis story is introduced in Plato's Timaeus and detailed in the half-complete Critias.
“you get the Atlantis story from the Timaeus, which is like introduced in the Timaeus... And then you have, let's say, like a half a book of the Critias, which details Atlantis.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:38:26.1-01:38:37.9 testimony first hand
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Jason Quitt considers Plato's telling of the Atlantis story, via Critias and Solon, to be a reflection of the universe and of creation.
“the way that Plato writes the story from Critias or Solon is in a way, a reflection of the universe. It's a reflection of the creation.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:38:58.8-01:39:09.2 opinion first hand
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In Plato's Atlantis story, Poseidon, the god of the sea, is gifted an allotment of land.
“it starts with Poseidon. He's gifted an allotment of land, of earth. He's the God of the sea.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:39:18.5-01:39:26.9 testimony second hand
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In Plato's Atlantis story, Poseidon falls in love with the daughter of an earth family living on a central hill and encircles her with alternating rings of land and water, turned as on a lathe, to protect her.
“On a central hill, there's an earth family, has a daughter. He falls in love with her. He comes down, he puts um, land and water, like a lathe, like circles of land and water rendered to protect her.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:39:28.3-01:39:46.2 testimony second hand
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In Plato's Atlantis story, Poseidon's mortal partner bears five sets of twins, and the first born is named Atlas.
“So then she has five twins, sets of twins and the first born they named Atlas.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:40:04.3-01:40:11.3 testimony second hand
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In Plato's Timaeus the Atlantis story appears just before the character Timaeus speaks about the creation of the world by the benevolent demiurge.
“you have the Atlantis story that pops in just before Timaeus speaks... And he talks about the creation of the world by the bevalent demiurge.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:43:48.0-01:44:00.2 testimony second hand
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In the Timaeus the character Timaeus describes the creation of the universe in terms of the circles of the same and the circles of the different, being the fixed stars and the wandering stars, six circles divided into seven, and then an eighth circle.
“he's talking about the circles of the same and the circles of the different, which is the fixed stars and the wandering stars, and the six circles that are divided into seven, and then the eighth circle.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:44:07.9-01:44:25.6 testimony second hand
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Jason Quitt considers that Plato took ancient creation myths, wrapped them and gave them the new name of Atlantis, so the whole Atlantis story can be found in other myths.
“it's almost like Plato took ancient creation myths and then he wrapped it and gave it a new name, you know?”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:45:06.9-01:45:13.4 opinion first hand
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Understanding Plato's Atlantis account requires knowledge of Egypt, the Egyptian creation myths, The Odyssey and the 12 labours of Hercules.
“you have to know about Egypt. You have to know about the Egyptian creation myths. You have to know about, um, the Odyssey... 12 labors of Hercules.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:45:20.2-01:45:32.5 opinion first hand
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Socrates was Plato's teacher.
“you have to look at Socrates, which was Plato's teacher”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:46:07.6-01:46:10.1 testimony first hand
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Jason Quitt considers that because such ideas could not be discussed openly in Plato's time, Plato opened a school as an initiatory teacher and encoded his teaching in what are called likely stories.
“So you couldn't really discuss these things openly ... he's going to open the school. He's going to be an initiatory teacher. He's going to create these stories, which are called likely stories.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:46:21.6-01:46:37.2 opinion first hand
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Plato witnessed his own teacher Socrates being killed by hemlock.
“Plato observed his own teacher being murdered by Hemlock.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:46:26.8-01:46:30.2 testimony first hand
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Jason Quitt considers that in telling the Atlantis myth Plato followed a long line of earlier authors who created myths of the gods that actually tell another story to those initiated into it.
“by giving this kind of fable, this myth, he's actually following a very long line of other authors in the past that create myths of the gods. But it's actually telling another story when initiated into this.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:46:43.3-01:46:56.1 opinion first hand
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Chris Ramsay considers that the Greek philosophers were far more intelligent than the flippant modern use of the term philosopher conveys.
“we use the term philosophers the greek philosophers we we say it so flippantly i don't think we can comprehend how smart these people really were”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:47:40.2-01:47:48.9 opinion first hand
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In Plato's account Atlantis is located just outside the Pillars of Hercules, identified as the Strait of Gibraltar between Spain and Morocco.
“he says it's right outside the pillars of Hercules, which we know exactly that location on earth”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:49:50.3-01:49:56.0 testimony second hand
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In Plato's account Atlantis is larger than Libya and Asia combined.
“He says it's larger than Libya and Asia combined.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:50:02.4-01:50:05.8 testimony second hand
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Chris Ramsay considers that leading readers on a treasure hunt towards a lost civilisation does not fit what Plato and the Greek philosophers did, as they were imparting knowledge such as mathematics, science and astronomy.
“they wouldn't send you on a treasure hunt you know it seems like something hollywood would do ... but in terms of philosophers those guys were imparting knowledge like math and science and astronomy”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:51:08.7-01:51:21.4 opinion first hand
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Jason Quitt draws a parallel between the Atlantis story and Plato's The Republic, in which the search for the ideal society ends with the society falling apart whatever is chosen.
“it's the same thing with the Republic where they're trying to find the ideal society. And it's, it's almost like it doesn't matter what they choose. It falls apart.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:51:30.0-01:51:39.4 opinion first hand
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Jason Quitt holds the personal opinion that the hubris and arrogance theme in Plato's Atlantis story concerns the ideal state of consciousness rather than the ideal state of society.
“in my personal opinion this hubris and arrogance is not about the ideal state it's the ideal state of consciousness”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:52:16.8-01:52:23.8 opinion first hand
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Jason Quitt considers that understanding the hidden meaning of Plato's Atlantis story requires initiation into orders such as the initiations in Egypt, which hold the keys to unlocking it.
“This is where we get into the initiations in Egypt ... you'd have to be initiated into these other orders in order to have the keys to unlock them and understand it.”
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