Brief
Roger Leir
The claims the writer was given for Roger Leir, in the order they were given.
1
The meteoritic-origin correlations for Roger Leir's implants are tentative and based on technical interpretations from meteorite data, a long way from confirming intelligent extraterrestrial sources.
“While provocative, these correlations are tentative and were made on the basis of technical interpretations from meteorite data. This is a long way from intelligent extraterrestrial sources.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:10123-10305 opinion first hand
2
The New Mexico Tech analysis offered a more prosaic origin for Roger Leir's implants, such as a stone subjected to calcification due to embedding inside a person's body.
“The New Mexico Tech analysis also offered a more prosaic origin for the implants: a stone, for example, subjected to calcification because of its apparent embedding inside the body of a person.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:10315-10501 opinion
3
Colm Kelleher, after consultation with Roger Leir, who had already made extensive enquiries into the Gary Lowrey case, felt the claw sample could be a good candidate for DNA study.
“Kelleher, after consultation with Dr. Roger Leir, who had already made extensive enquiries into the case, felt the “claw” sample could be a good candidate for DNA study.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:26436-26599 opinion second hand
4
Since the mid-1990s, California podiatric physician and surgeon Dr. Roger Leir has facilitated the surgical removal of a number of alleged alien implants and has had them analysed.
“since the mid-1990s a concerted effort has been made to recover these artifacts, largely through the efforts of California podiatric physician and surgeon Dr. Roger Leir, who has facilitated the surgical removal of a number of these strange items and has had them analyzed.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:8850-9114 administrative
5
Roger Leir's first implant removal occurred on August 19, 1995, when medically supervised surgical procedures isolated three objects from two abductees known as Patricia and Paul.
“The first of his “implant” removals occurred on August 19, 1995, when medically supervised surgical procedures isolated three objects from two abductees known as “Patricia” and “Paul.””
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:9125-9303 administrative
6
Roger Leir has described about a dozen surgical implant removals since his first in 1995.
“Since then Roger Leir has described about a dozen such surgical “implant” removals.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:9483-9557 administrative
7
The National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), which supported Roger Leir's work, was able to conduct physical analyses of the implants through a laboratory at New Mexico Tech, an engineering university in Socorro, New Mexico, including X-ray energy-dispersive spectroscopy and X-ray diffraction work.
“The National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), which supported Leir’s work, was able to conduct physical analyses of the implants through a laboratory at New Mexico Tech, an engineering university located in Socorro, New Mexico, including X-ray energy-dispersive spectroscopy and X-ray diffraction work.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:9568-9872 administrative
8
Roger Leir's first three implant removals showed compositional results and isotopic ratios that lend support to the idea that the implant materials may be of meteoritic origin.
“A few, namely Leir’s first three implant removals, suggest compositional results and isotopic ratios that lend support to the idea that they may be of extraterrestrial origin. In short, the implant materials seemed to be of meteoritic origin.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:9879-10114 measurement
9
Gary Lowrey's alleged experiences were investigated by a number of parties, including Roger Leir.
“Gary Lowrey’s experiences have been investigated by a number of parties, including Dr. Roger Leir.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:43073-43166 administrative second hand
10
Roger Leir interviewed Valquira Silva, who described seeing a short, crouching, motionless creature that was horrible looking, brown in colour, with oily skin and a large head.
“Dr. Leir conducted an interview with Valquira, who described seeing a short creature, crouching and motionless. She described it as “horrible looking, brown in color with an oily skin and a large head.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:11396-11592 testimony third hand
11
When Roger Leir was in Brazil in 2002, he attempted to interview Officer Cherese's wife, but she would only confirm that her husband had died in the hospital and would not give further details.
“When Dr. Leir was in Brazil in 2002, he attempted to interview the officer’s wife, but she would not give any details beyond the fact that her husband had indeed died in the hospital.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:13637-13811 testimony second hand
12
Roger Leir noticed a change in attitude of the medical personnel he interviewed: they first claimed to be thirdhand witnesses, but as they talked it became clear they were actually firsthand witnesses and participants.
“Roger does remark that he noticed a change in the attitude of the individuals involved as he talked with them. They first claimed to be thirdhand witnesses, but when they talked, it became clear that they were actually firsthand witnesses and participants.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:15829-16072 testimony second hand
13
One of the medical personnel interviewed by Roger Leir about the 1996 Varginha UFO incident said that none of the medical staff wanted to look into the creature's eyes and refrained from doing so.
“One of the medical personnel interviewed by Dr. Leir specifically comments, “For some reason, all of us did not want to look into this creature’s eyes and refrained from doing so.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:21647-21823 testimony second hand
14
The doctor was reticent to tell Roger Leir everything that was in the thought grams he received during the 1996 Varginha UFO incident, but was willing to describe what the creature told him about human beings.
“The doctor was reticent to tell Dr. Leir everything that was in the “thought grams,” but he was willing to say what the creature told him about human beings.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:23347-23497 testimony second hand
15
Like John Mack, Roger Leir's license to practise medicine was challenged, and he had to deal with a nuisance lawsuit that caused his practice to decline.
“Like John Mack, his license to practice was challenged. He had to deal with a nuisance suit. His practice declined.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:8022-8128 observation first hand
16
Whitley Strieber knew Roger Leir well, and when Leir first heard of the Varginha case in 2002 he called Strieber and asked him to travel to Brazil with him, but Strieber's schedule did not permit it.
“I knew Dr. Leir well, and when he first heard of the case in 2002, he called me and asked me to go to Brazil with him. My schedule, unfortunately, did not permit it.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:8191-8353 testimony first hand
17
While in Varginha, Roger Leir called Whitley Strieber to tell him he had just conducted what he thought was one of the most amazing interviews ever done in the history of UFO research.
“When he was in Varginha, he called me again to tell me that he had just conducted what he thought was one of most amazing interviews ever done in the history of UFO research.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:8406-8571 testimony second hand
18
Whitley Strieber considers Roger Leir's Varginha interview to stand as one of the most amazing interviews ever done anywhere, on any subject.
“Actually, it was more than that. It stands as one of the most amazing interviews ever done anywhere, on any subject.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:8581-8689 opinion first hand
19
Whitley Strieber never doubted Roger Leir's truthfulness when Leir told him the Varginha story.
“I was, too, when he told me. There was never the slightest doubt in my mind about his truthfulness.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:9259-9345 opinion first hand
20
Whitley Strieber arranged for Roger Leir to use the facilities of Southwest Research Institute in Texas in a limited way for his implant studies.
“I know I loved Roger and worked with him. I arranged for him to use the facilities of Southwest Research in Texas in a limited way on his implant studies.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:01:20.4-01:01:29.7 testimony first hand
21
Bill Mallow was head of material science at Southwest Research Institute and one of its founders, and he carried out the implant research that Roger Leir did there.
“there was a wonderful guy at Southwest Research called Bill Mallow he was the head of material science and he was the one who did the implant research that Roger Lear did there. ... He was, he was one of the founders of it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:15:49.3-02:16:07.2 administrative first hand