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Whitley Strieber

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Because the sign of Guadalupe had been given to an Indian, the forces that wanted to enslave the Indians lost their political strength, and the Spaniards were compelled by the Church to recognise the Indians as human beings.
“Because the sign had been given to an Indian, the forces that wanted to enslave them lost their political strength, and the Spaniards were compelled by the Church to recognize them as human beings.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch4:10210-10400 opinion first hand
2
Whitley Strieber's interest in Marian apparitions was kindled by a meeting with Father Peter Rinaldi, an expert on the Shroud of Turin.
“My own interest in Marian apparitions was kindled indirectly, by a meeting with a remarkable man who was an expert on the Shroud of Turin.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch4:2427-2559 testimony first hand
3
Whitley Strieber met Father Peter Rinaldi in the early 1970s, when Rinaldi was in New York seeking contributions to help air force scientists Eric Jumper and John Jackson expose the Shroud of Turin to scientific study.
“It was during the early seventies that I met Father Peter Rinaldi, who was in New York trying to get contributions for what then seemed like a truly quixotic quest: he wanted to help two air force scientists, Drs. Eric Jumper and John Jackson, to expose the Shroud of Turin to scientific study.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch4:2566-2854 testimony first hand
4
Father Peter Rinaldi told Whitley Strieber a story about Fatima, having known a priest who had personally witnessed the miracle of Fatima.
“In the course of our brief relationship Father Rinaldi told me a story about Fatima. He knew a priest who had actually been there, and this priest had personally witnessed the miracle of Fatima.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch4:3178-3365 testimony second hand
5
Unidentified Flying Object occupants, like the fairy folk before them, have at best a localised and tangential effect on the social order, unlike Marian apparitions.
“UFO occupants, like the fairy folk before them, have, at best, a localized and tangential effect on the social order.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch4:5638-5749 opinion first hand
6
Marian apparitions are unique in that they have received such a powerful response that they have often led to identifiable historical change.
“Marian apparitions are unique in that they have received such a powerful response that they have often led to identifiable historical change.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch4:5955-6089 opinion first hand
7
The apparition of Our Lady of Guadalupe in Mexico in 1531 reduced conflict between Spanish Catholicism and native Mexican religions.
“This was a powerful event that unfolded at an extremely high level of strangeness. What made it so strange was the way in which it reduced conflict between Spanish Catholicism and native Mexican religions.”
The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch4:6208-6403 opinion first hand
8
Kary Mullis had told no one of his own 1985 encounter until his daughter Louise Mullis called to tell him of her own strange experience, after which she advised him to buy Whitley Strieber's book Communion.
“Mullis had told no one of his own experience until his daughter called to tell her father about her strange experience and advised him to buy a book, Whitley Strieber's Communion.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch13:3580-3749 testimony first hand
9
Whitley Strieber asked Bill Chalker to investigate the 1976 New South Wales encounter described in the letter, since it had come from Australia.
“He asked me to investigate the experience detailed in the letter, since it had come from Australia.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:1236-1325 testimony first hand
10
Whitley Strieber told Bill Chalker that he had deliberately omitted the detail of hair on the visitors from his descriptions in Communion, as a way of later evaluating the authenticity of reports he expected to receive.
“The key element that Whitley Strieber told me he had left out in his descriptions of his "visitors" was the presence of hair. He had omitted this element from his book in order to have a way of later identifying possibly authentic descriptions of the "visitors."”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:1337-1589 testimony second hand
11
Peter Khoury's 1988 experience featured beings very similar to Whitley Strieber's literary rendering of the visitors in Communion.
“Peter Khoury's 1988 experience featured beings that were very similar to Strieber's literary rendering in Communion”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:2087-2193 observation
12
Peter Khoury became aware of Whitley Strieber's encounters only after his own 1988 experience.
“but Peter became aware of Strieber's encounters only after his own experience”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:2204-2271 observation
13
The cover painting of the alien visitor on Whitley Strieber's 1987 book Communion helped entrench the gray alien stereotype in public consciousness.
“The cover painting of the alien "visitor" on Whitley Strieber's 1987 book Communion served to entrench this image widely in the public consciousness.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:350-485 observation first hand
14
Years after her 1976 encounter, the woman's sister advised her to read Whitley Strieber's Communion because of similarities to her own experience, and she wrote to Strieber about it.
“Years later, the woman was advised by her sister to read Whitley Strieber's book Communion because of the similarity of the events described in it to her own experiences years earlier. The woman never completely read the book, but wrote to Strieber about her experience.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:6128-6387 testimony second hand
15
Whitley Strieber described one letter he received as the best description of the gray beings among the thousands of letters sent to him after Communion.
“One of these reports Whitley Strieber described as "the best description of the gray beings" among the thousands of letters that were sent to him in the wake of the success of Communion.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:623-799 opinion second hand
16
On 1988-02-20, Whitley Strieber called Bill Chalker to give him details of the 1976 New South Wales case and some other Australian events, and said he had asked the witness to write to Chalker.
“On February 20, 1988, Whitley Strieber called me to give me some details of this and some other Australian events. He said he had asked the witness to write to me.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:6400-6560 testimony first hand
17
After the publication of Communion, Whitley Strieber received thousands of letters from readers reporting similar alien encounters.
“the thousands of letters that were sent to him in the wake of the success of Communion”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:722-799 observation
18
Whitley Strieber described the 1976 New South Wales case in Transformation, the sequel to Communion, as the best description of the gray beings he had received.
“After mentioning the case in Transformation, the sequel to Communion, as "the best description of the gray beings" he had received”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:7841-7963 opinion second hand
19
Whitley Strieber again referred to the 1976 New South Wales woman's experience in his third book about the visitors, Breakthrough, while he was struggling with the possible negative nature of the visitor experience.
“he again referred to her experience in his third book about the visitors, Breakthrough, at a time when he was struggling with the possible "negative" nature of the "visitor experience."”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:7975-8148 observation second hand
20
Whitley Strieber described the 1976 New South Wales case as one of the most compelling negative letters he had received.
“He described this case as one of the most compelling "negative" letters he had received”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:8162-8241 opinion second hand
21
Whitley Strieber suggests that the noise of the 1976 New South Wales woman's vacuum cleaner may have prevented a disabling sonic attack often used to render people unconscious, allowing her a clear and conscious awareness of the beings' presence.
“he suggests that the noise of the woman's vacuum cleaner may have somehow prevented the disabling "sonic attack" often used to render people unconscious, thereby allowing her a clear and conscious awareness of the beings' presence.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:8255-8477 opinion second hand
22
Whitley Strieber was deeply disturbed by the bullying, compulsion, and cruel and extremely clever deceits of the visitors in the 1976 New South Wales case.
“Strieber was deeply disturbed by "the bullying, the compulsion, the cruel and extremely clever deceits" of the "visitors" in this case.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:8488-8618 opinion second hand
23
Whitley Strieber believes the 1976 New South Wales woman's resistance led to the negative aspects of her experience.
“Strieber believes her resistance led to the negative aspects of the experience.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:8624-8692 opinion second hand
24
In The Communion Letters, Whitley Strieber wrote that the fact the 1976 New South Wales incident unfolded in the middle of the day suggests the visitors are much freer to operate in our world than realised, and that their imperious conduct might indicate they place themselves as a higher authority with rights over humans similar to those humans claim over lower orders of earthly creation.
“"The fact that the incident unfolded in the middle of the day suggests that the visitors are much freer to operate in our world than we have realized. Indeed, their imperious conduct in this case might indicate that they place themselves as a higher authority, with rights over us similar to those we claim over the lower orders of earthly creation."”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch15:9128-9467 opinion second hand
25
Whitley Strieber, trying to come to terms with his own abduction experiences, wondered whether the shamanic language of symbol and myth would offer better insight into the visitors' motives.
“Whitley Strieber, in trying to come to terms with his own abduction experiences, wondered “if the shamanic language of symbol and myth would offer a better insight into the visitors’ motives.””
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:55558-55741 opinion first hand
26
In an interview for Terror Australis magazine, Whitley Strieber said that shamanism is the shattered remnants of mankind's early attempts to control the visitor phenomenon.
“In an interview for Terror Australis magazine, Strieber stated that “shamanism is the shattered remnants of mankind’s early attempts to control this [visitor] phenomenon.””
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:55752-55911 opinion first hand
27
Whitley Strieber felt that an Australian abduction case gave him the best description of the "grays" he had ever received.
“It also occurs in the Australian case that Strieber felt was the best description of the “grays” he had ever received.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:8659-8768 opinion second hand
28
In Whitley Strieber's book Transformation (1988), pages 121-122, Strieber quotes a woman but leaves out any reference to hair she reportedly observed on the beings.
“See Whitley Strieber's Transformation (1988), pp. 121-122. Strieber in quoting the woman leaves out any reference to the hair she observed.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:15342-15472 observation first hand
29
In his book Breakthrough (1995), pages 110-112, Whitley Strieber refers to the beings in the same case as having hair, seven years after Transformation, quoting from the woman's 1987-88 letter: "Unlike your visitors, mine had wispy bits at the back of their heads."
“See Breakthrough (1995) by Whitley Strieber, pp. 110-112. Seven years later Strieber refers to the beings in this case having hair. He quotes from the woman's letter from 1987-88: "Unlike your visitors, mine had wispy bits at the back of their heads" (p. 111).”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:15487-15742 testimony second hand
30
In the case described in Breakthrough, the hair on the two "male" beings was brown and on the "female" being was black, with colour-coordinated "shrouds."
“The hair on the two "males" was brown and the female "black," with color-coordinated "shrouds."”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:15748-15834 testimony second hand
31
Whitley Strieber does not link the account in Breakthrough to the reference in his previous book Transformation, nor does he highlight that he had kept the presence of hair out of his own original "visitor" descriptions.
“Strieber doesn't link the account here to the reference in his previous book, nor does he highlight that he had kept the presence of hair out of his own original "visitor" descriptions.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:15844-16016 observation first hand
32
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber's book The Communion Letters (1997), pages 53-55, contains the woman's letter in a chapter entitled "Alien Abduction as It Really Is," described as "the most vivid description of the visitors in all our records," yet Strieber did not reveal in that book that his own original "visitors" featured hair.
“See The Communion Letters by Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber, (1997), pp. 53-55. Even though Strieber has the woman's letter in the chapter entitled "Alien Abduction as It Really Is" and that it is "the most vivid description of the visitors in all our records" he did not reveal that his own original "visitors" featured hair.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch23:16035-16360 observation first hand
33
Communion, Whitley Strieber's 1987 account of his claimed encounters with aliens, sold millions of copies.
“Communion, Whitley Strieber's 1987 account of his claimed encounters with aliens, sold millions of copies and solidified in public consciousness the perception of the alien as bald with large dark eyes.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:2462-2659 administrative
34
Whitley Strieber deliberately suppressed the detail of hair present in his alien encounter descriptions to test whether it would be independently corroborated by subsequent witness descriptions of alien beings.
“Strieber had suppressed one key detail of his alien encounter to see if it would be validated independently in subsequent witness descriptions of alien beings. That detail was the presence of hair in descriptions of aliens.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:2799-3015 testimony second hand
35
According to Whitley Strieber, only one case among the many worldwide alien encounter accounts strikingly matched his own experience in sharing the detail of hair, and that case was from Australia.
“According to Whitley Strieber, only one case emerged in this human tide of encounters with aliens that strikingly matched his own experiences with aliens, sharing the key element of the presence of hair. That case turned out to be from Australia.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:3024-3260 testimony second hand
36
Vincent Dipietro and Whitley Strieber stated on Coast to Coast AM that Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) scientists told them Michael Malin had been taking so many pictures of the Face on Mars in the previous two years that other researchers could not get time on the Mars Global Surveyor (MGS) for their own research.
“Anecdotally, both Vincent Dipietro and “Communion” author Whitley Strieber stated on Coast to Coast AM that JPL scientists told them that Malin had been taking so many pictures of the Face in the last two years that they could not get time on the MGS for their own research.”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch14:30053-30320 hearsay second hand
37
Whitley Strieber identifies the triangle as the symbol found in abduction accounts, describing it as very ancient and tremendously important through much of human history.
“This symbol is the triangle ... But the symbol is very ancient, as it happens, and through much of human history was tremendously important.”
Communion 2013-06-16 101-105 opinion first hand
38
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber then found himself in a messy, round room, and felt overwhelmed by extreme dread and a sense that his personality had completely evaporated.
“The next thing I knew, I was sitting in a messy round room... this now left me and I became entirely given over to extreme dread. The fear was so powerful that it seemed to make my personality completely evaporate.”
Communion 2013-06-16 110 observation first hand
39
During hypnotic recall of the 1957 train trip abduction memory, Whitley Strieber recalled seeing his father standing up, appearing terrified, and making a convulsive mouth movement as though trying to get something out of his throat, then heard him screaming faintly despite being close by.
“he was standing up and he looked totally bereft and terrified... And then I heard him screaming, but real faint, you know. I could see him — he was no farther away than you are... but I could hear him very faintly, dust screaming and screaming.”
Communion 2013-06-16 139 testimony first hand
40
During the March 1, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber screamed for a prolonged twenty seconds and then spontaneously emerged from hypnosis, describing the fear he relived as more raw and profound than any he had previously experienced.
“[Screams, prolonged, twenty seconds.]... I then emerged spontaneously from hypnosis... All I can say is that I relived fear so raw, profound, and large that I would not have thought it possible that such an emotion could exist.”
Communion 2013-06-16 162 observation first hand
41
During the recollected visitation, Whitley Strieber's son screamed loudly, and Strieber found him with his diaper pulled down around his knees, feeling hard and cold to the touch.
“Our boy says, 'Oh!' ...he screams out loud, real loud... He's like he's hard and cold. He's very cold. He's got his diaper pulled down around his knees.”
Communion 2013-06-16 187-191 testimony first hand
42
Whitley Strieber's sister told him the strangest thing she remembered was when they were sleeping in the back lot and a big, green fireball came catty-corner across the lot, prompting the family to go inside and sleep on the porch instead.
“'The time we were sleeping out in the back lot and the fireball came across the lot.'... 'It was a big, green fireball. It came catty-corner across the lot. We all got scared and went inside. We slept on the porch instead.'”
Communion 2013-06-16 231-237 testimony second hand
43
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled asking to go home and expressing that he wanted to remain with his mother, his wife, and his son, and did not want the round door in the room opened.
“"I don't want to go home.'" ... "'I do not want you to open that door! I belong with my momma and my wife . . . and my boy. That is where I belong." [Sobs.] I don't belong here. I don't know how I ended up here.”
Communion 2013-06-16 237-247 testimony first hand
44
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled having seen other people lying down in rows during a much earlier experience at age twelve, when he was sitting up in bed while everyone else in a room full of beds was asleep.
“I've seen some of the others before. All lying down there." ... "How old were you?" "Twelve." "Where were you?" "I was sittin' up in bed. And everybody else was asleep. There's a whole bunch of beds"”
Communion 2013-06-16 289-303 testimony first hand
45
On December 29, 1980, near Huffman, Texas, a group of people observed a diamond-shaped object floating in the sky, glowing with a fierce light, surrounded by helicopters.
“On December 29, 1980, a terrible event of some unknown kind took place near Huffman, Texas. ... A group of people observed a diamond-shaped object floating in the sky, glowing with a fierce light. The object was surrounded by helicopters.”
Communion 2013-06-16 49-49 hearsay
46
Dr. Donald Klein induced hypnosis in Whitley Strieber using an eye-fixation technique with his finger followed by relaxation and warmth suggestions.
“Dr. Klein stood before me and asked me to look up at his finger... he began saying that my eyelids were getting heavy... soon Dr. Klein began to say that my right hand was getting warm.”
Communion 2013-06-16 74-76 observation first hand
47
Budd Hopkins was present at both the October 4 and December 26 hypnosis sessions, recording them and permitted to ask questions only at the end of each session.
“I wish to add that Budd Hopkins was present at both of these sessions, recording them. He was allowed to ask questions, but only at the end of each session, and it was understood that his questions would be few.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:10156-10363 observation first hand
48
The hypnosis session recalling the October 4, 1985 abduction experience memories took place on March 1, 1986, with Whitley Strieber as subject and Dr. Donald Klein, MD as psychiatrist.
“SESSION DATE: March 1, 1986 SUBJECT: Whitley Strieber PSYCHIATRIST: Donald Klein, MD”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:10508-10582 administrative second hand
49
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled that in early October 1985 he was working on a novel about Russia, referred to as "the Russian book."
“"Yeah, I'm working on the Russian book."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:11062-11095 testimony first hand
50
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled planning to take Jacques Sandulescu and his girlfriend Annie Gottlieb to the country for the weekend in a Jeep Wagoneer.
“"Yeah, we're gonna take Jacques and Annie up to the country and I don't know whether or not Jacques is going to fit in the jeep."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:11324-11446 testimony first hand
51
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled that his son was happy on the drive because he liked Jacques Sandulescu.
“He's to the backseat and my son's happy because he likes Jacques a lot.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:11697-11764 testimony first hand
52
Whitley Strieber chose not to approach any hypnotist to whom Budd Hopkins had made previous referrals.
“I chose not to approach any hypnotist to whom Hopkins had made previous referrals, despite the excellence of their credentials.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:1210-1325 observation first hand
53
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled taking his family and guests to dinner at a restaurant called the Top of the Falls, about fifteen minutes from home.
“"How far is the restaurant from your home?" "Oh, not long, about fifteen minutes. And we had dinner."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:12180-12273 testimony first hand
54
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled going to bed that night wearing his house shoes and considering sitting in the hot tub but being too tired.
“"I'm wearing my house shoes. We were all gonna sit in the hot tub, but I'm too tired."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:12466-12544 testimony first hand
55
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled that during the night of October 4, 1985, he woke up and saw something go past an octagonal window beneath the peak of his living room's cathedral ceiling, approximately nine metres above the ground.
“there's something went past the window?... I referred to an octagonal window beneath the peak of the living room's cathedral ceiling, approximately thirty feet from the ground.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:12832-13000 testimony first hand
56
Dr. Aphrodite Clamar had worked extensively with Budd Hopkins and was a highly professional psychologist.
“One of these, Dr. Aphrodite Clamar, had worked extensively with Hopkins and was a very fine and highly professional psychologist”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:1338-1454 observation first hand
57
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled seeing a dark shape about one metre tall standing in the shadows in the far corner of his bedroom.
“I was looking into the far corner of the bedroom, where I saw a dark shape about three feet tall standing in the shadows.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:13516-13629 testimony first hand
58
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled the figure in his bedroom as appearing to have a hood, with no visible head, standing near the corner of his bedroom.
“"I saw something that looked like it had a hood on it, standing over by the wall near the corner in our bedroom"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:13951-14054 testimony first hand
59
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled that he had not known anything had come into his house until that moment in the session, and that he had been prepared for being scared on the twenty-sixth (of December) but not for something happening on October 4.
“I didn't know there was anything in my house till just this second that night on the fourth of October... I was prepared for being scared on the twenty-sixth. I did not know that anything had come into my house”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:15120-15268 testimony first hand
60
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled a small hooded, headless-looking figure coming to his bed and making a sucking, smacking, squeaking sound as if pressing something into his mind.
“comes over to the bed and he starts like sucking something in-not into my head, y'understand, but like it was sticking into my mind... [Demonstrates noise: a smacking, squeaking sound.]”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:15491-15698 testimony first hand
61
Budd Hopkins recalled that Dr. Donald Klein of the New York State Psychiatric Institute had expressed interest in and appeared open-minded about the visitor phenomenon.
“Hopkins remembered that Dr. Donald Klein of the New York State Psychiatric Institute had expressed interest in the phenomenon and appeared to be open-minded about it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:1559-1722 testimony second hand
62
Dr. Donald Klein told Whitley Strieber that he was an excellent hypnotic subject.
“"Was I a good hypnotic subject?" "You were excellent."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:17794-17837 opinion first hand
63
Whitley Strieber underwent a three-hour pre-interview in Dr. Donald Klein's office before hypnosis.
“A few weeks later I was in his office undergoing a searching three-hour pre-interview.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:1838-1914 observation first hand
64
Under hypnosis in the second induction of the March 1, 1986 session, Whitley Strieber recalled a small being with a mean-looking face, large slanted eyes, a bald head, standing about as tall as the top of a lamp, holding a ruler-like object tipped with silver, that touched his head and produced visions of a nuclear blast.
“He looks mean. He's little. Goes up to about the top of the lamp. Looking down at me. Got eyes. Big eyes. Big slanted eyes. A bald head... He's got a ruler in his hand. Has a tip of silver... I see pictures of the whole place just blowing up when he touches my head with this thing.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:18613-18966 testimony first hand
65
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled hearing a voice tell him "That's your home" while shown the vision of a blast, followed by a wordless question of why.
“Remembered voice: That's your home. That's your home. You know why this will happen.'”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:19154-19231 testimony first hand
66
Whitley Strieber provided Dr. Donald Klein with a document outlining all of his memories related to the visitor experiences.
“I had provided him with a document outlining all my memories.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:1925-1977 observation first hand
67
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled being shown a vision of a park and his son, and hearing the being's voice tell him "I won't hurt you."
“Shows me a park. I see my son... Remembered voice: 'I won't hurt you.'”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:19796-19822 testimony first hand
68
During the March 1, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber recalled a being taking a needle-like object and striking it like a match in front of his face, producing a loud bang, and he thought a nearby object was on fire.
“He took a little thing like a needle and struck it like a match in front of my face and it made a big bang, *pow!* And I thought the Mouse was on fire.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:20268-20414 testimony first hand
69
Whitley Strieber recalled emerging spontaneously out of bed immediately after perceiving the explosion, with no memory of what happened next.
“When I said the house was on fire I'm already out of the bed. Right away.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:20505-20573 testimony first hand
70
During the March 1, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber recalled being shown dreadful images by the being and did not know why.
“I don't know why he showed me those images, to be frank with you. They are the most dreadful images.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:20774-20867 testimony first hand
71
Whitley Strieber believed the being showed him images of the future of the world.
“I think he showed me images of the future of our world, is what he showed me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:20975-21049 opinion first hand
72
Whitley Strieber recalled being shown an image of a green expanse and his son in a park during the March 1, 1986 hypnosis session.
“It's a beautiful, green expanse. Was immediately relaxing when I saw that. And my boy. My boy is in the park. My boy is there. And he's happy.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:21081-21218 testimony first hand
73
Whitley Strieber believed the park image represented his son's death.
“Because I think the park represents death, and he's there because he's dead. That's what I think.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:21278-21369 opinion first hand
74
After a week of trying unsuccessfully to recall further memories, resulting only in dizziness and strange nightmares, Whitley Strieber and Dr. Donald Klein decided on a trial hypnosis session.
“When I was not successful — in fact, all I got out of it was dizziness and strange nightmares — we decided on a trial hypnosis session.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:2147-2274 observation first hand
75
Whitley Strieber recalled being shown an image described as the world blowing up, a red fire with horns of smoke shooting out in every direction.
“It's a red fire, a big, red, fierce fire with all these horns of smoke shooting out from it in every direction. And they said that's the world blowing up.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:21624-21775 testimony first hand
76
Whitley Strieber recalled having a dream in November about the city of Cleveland blowing up, which he later connected to the explosion memory.
“I had a dream back in November. Of Cleveland blowing up. It was me remembering this image of the explosion but I thought it was a single city.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:22165-22302 testimony first hand
77
Whitley Strieber described the being he encountered as having a bald head and slanted eyes.
“You said he had a bald head?" "He had a bald head and I would say he had slanted eves.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:22373-22455 testimony first hand
78
Whitley Strieber recalled the being repeatedly putting an object on his head, obscuring his view of its face.
“It was real hard to see because he kept putting this thing on my head. Almost every time I would move he would put this thing on my head.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:22461-22593 testimony first hand
79
Whitley Strieber recalled the being holding a small ruler-like object with a silver tip that glimmered in the dark room.
“He had a little ruler thing chat had a silver tip on it, quite silver. because I could see glimmers on it and it's dark in the room.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:22769-22896 testimony first hand
80
Whitley Strieber recalled the room being very dark during the encounter, contrary to a suggestion from Budd Hopkins that it was light.
“Because the room was dark. It was very dark." "I thought you said it was light."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:23005-23079 testimony first hand
81
Whitley Strieber recalled the being wearing some kind of covering and being aware it had been standing in the corner of the room for some time before he noticed it.
“I also have the impression that he was wearing covering... the thing that scared me at first was realizing he had been there for some time, standing over there in the corner”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:23093-23286 testimony first hand
82
Whitley Strieber felt the being's actions constituted a stern warning rather than a threat.
“I'm not saying that I was being threatened so much as warned. That was my feeling. There was a very stern warning”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:23401-23507 opinion first hand
83
Whitley Strieber recalled the being touching him at the centre of his forehead just above the bridge of his nose, and each touch produced a burst of images.
“Right here." (I touched the center of my forehead, just above the bridge of my nose.) ... And every time he touched me there would be a burst of images.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:24221-24394 testimony first hand
84
Whitley Strieber recalled the images shown to him were purely visual, not verbal.
“They were visual?" "Yeah, they were visions." "Not words?" "Absolutely not. They were pictures."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:24503-24592 testimony first hand
85
Whitley Strieber suspected the jumbled images shown to him during the encounter might reflect his own worst fears, such as nuclear war and his son being killed.
“I think increasingly that they might be pictures out of my mind of my worst fears. Like nuclear war and my son being killed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:24818-24935 opinion first hand
86
Whitley Strieber described the being's face as bald with slanted eyes more pronounced than an Oriental person's eyes, with a piercing glare and a fierce look.
“I can sort of see that it had a bald, rather largish head for someone that size. And that its eyes are slanted, more than an Oriental's eyes... There's a piercing glare, almost. There's a real fierce look to the whole face.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:25316-25554 testimony first hand
87
Whitley Strieber thought the being's face had buglike qualities, though it looked more like a person than a bug.
“At some point I almost thought it looks like a bug. But not-you know, more like a person than a bug . . . but there were buglike qualities to it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:25578-25720 testimony first hand
88
Whitley Strieber considers it a myth that people cannot lie under hypnosis, since they can and will if they believe it is what the hypnotist wants.
“It is a flat-out myth that people can't lie under hypnosis. They can and they will — if they think that's what the hypnotist wants them to do, or if they themselves want to do it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:2607-2783 opinion first hand
89
Upon closer examination, the questions used in the Science News-reported hypnosis study were intentionally leading and designed to evoke abduction memories.
“When I got a more careful look at the study I had read about in Science News, I found that the questions asked were intentionally leading ones, specifically designed to evoke abduction memories.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:2788-2975 observation second hand
90
During further hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled the world image turning into a red ball of fire that burst into flames like a ball of gasoline, with smoke shooting off it like great horns, while people were down inside the fire.
“The world turns into a whole red ball of fire. It just seems to burst into flames like a little ball of gasoline out in the middle of the sky. And all these . . . smoke . . . things start shooting off it . . . like great horns made of smoke. And we're all there, down there in the red fire.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:28019-28304 testimony first hand
91
Whitley Strieber recalled seeing his son sitting on the grass in a park, wobbly and unable to move his arms properly, with entirely black eyes without any whites.
“Now I see . . a park.... My little boy is sitting there on the grass . . . he's all wobbly, and he's like he can't move his arms right. He's all wobbly and his eyes look funny." (They appeared entirely black, without any whites at all.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:28435-28667 testimony first hand
92
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber experienced upsetting images of his father's death that did not reflect what actually happened but rather his fears about it.
“At this point there followed upsetting images of my father's death, images that did not reflect what really happened, but rather my fears about what might have happened.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:28776-28936 testimony first hand
93
Whitley Strieber saw a clear image under hypnosis of his father Karl Strieber lying on a couch in their old den, head thrown back, gasping and choking, with his mother Mary Strieber sitting beside him too afraid to move.
“I saw a clear image of my father lying on the couch in our old den, his head thrown back, gasping and choking. My mother was beside him in a chair, watching, too afraid to move.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:29375-29547 testimony first hand
94
The hypnotically recalled scene of Karl Strieber's death was totally different from the account Mary Strieber had described, which reflected a gentle and loving relationship as his life ended.
“This was totally different from the scene she described, which was what would have been expected from the gentle and loving relationship that had emerged as his life came to its close.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:29553-29731 testimony first hand
95
Whitley Strieber emerged spontaneously from hypnosis a second time during the March 1, 1986 session because of the extreme severity of the emotions he was reliving.
“I then emerged spontaneously from hypnosis once again. It is very unusual to do this, especially from a deep trance like the one Dr. Klein had induced. It was an indication of the extreme severity of the emotions I was reliving.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:29843-30062 observation first hand
96
Whitley Strieber's parents, Karl Strieber and Mary Strieber, were married for nearly fifty years and, despite ups and downs, Mary was not uncaring toward Karl at the end of his life.
“They had their ups and downs in their marriage, but they were married for nearly fifty years, and I didn't think she was uncaring about him at the end.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:30472-30619 testimony first hand
97
Whitley Strieber felt agony recalling that he had never felt close to his father, who was distant, loving but reserved, coming from a reticent generation of rural Texans.
“My dad was distant. He was a loving father, but he always held something back. you know. He was from a very reticent generation. Rural Texans were very inward people.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:31040-31199 testimony first hand
98
Whitley Strieber stated the man he encountered was standing beside his bed and was as real as life, despite considering and rejecting the idea that it was purely psychological.
“It's not true. The man was there. He was standing beside my bed as real as life.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:32211-32286 testimony first hand
99
During the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, Whitley Strieber felt that if the beings had asked him what his deepest secret was, at the point his ego dissolved, he would have told them right away.
“You said, originally, about the December twenty-sixth episode, that it was as if they said to you, when you disappeared, when your ego dissolved, if they had asked you what is your deepest secret, you would have told them right away." "Right away. Yes."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:32295-32544 testimony first hand
100
Whitley Strieber states that all the transcripts of his hypnosis sessions with Dr. Donald Klein are verbatim, allowing readers to confirm Dr. Klein did not ask leading questions.
“This can easily be confirmed by the reader, as all the transcripts of my hypnosis sessions are verbatim.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:3291-3386 administrative first hand
101
Whitley Strieber recalled the being taking a stick-like needle, moving it slightly in the air causing it to spark at the end, striking it and producing a bang that spread a tingling across his face.
“He took a little thing like a stick — a needle — and when he moved it even slightly in the air I could see it spark at the end, and he went like that [makes striking motion] and it went *bang*, and spread a tingling all over my face.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:32974-33202 testimony first hand
102
Whitley Strieber described the explosion sound as having a heavier quality than a balloon popping, as if some big energy had been released.
“I can't say it was like a balloon popping, because that's too innocuous a sound. It had a heavier quality to it than that, like some big energy had been released.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:33630-33783 testimony first hand
103
Whitley Strieber described the sound as more of a thud than a slap, a big noise with a deeper resonance.
“Not that crisp. More of a thud. It was a big noise. There was a slap, but there was a deeper resonance to it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:33859-33965 testimony first hand
104
Whitley Strieber hoped that the hypnosis process would dispel the notion of the visitors and prove the experience had been a complicated series of misperceptions.
“I was very much hoping that the process would dispel the whole notion of the visitors and prove that — despite appearances — the experience had been a complicated series of misperceptions.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:3400-3573 opinion first hand
105
Whitley Strieber described the explosion sound as like a deep clap of thunder with no echo, with a deep undertone and a very electrical quality, comparing it to a tiny bolt of lightning striking near someone's face.
“Actually, a clap would be the best — like a deep clap of thunder that had no echo. Just a single noise. But it had a deep undertone to it. But it had a very electrical quality to it. If you could make a tiny bolt of lightning in someone's face, you would create thunder right in their face. That's what was done.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:34314-34617 testimony first hand
106
Following the March 1, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber felt he no longer believed he had a psychiatric disorder and felt he could no longer intellectually deny the existence of the beings.
“I feel I don't have a psychiatric disorder. I feel you're right about that... I don't think I'm intellectually going to be able to deny their existence much longer.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:34799-34973 opinion first hand
107
Whitley Strieber believed the encounter with the being had been productive in that the being learned a lot about him, and he in turn learned a lot about himself, including unrecognised worries about his parents.
“One is, they learned a lot about me, if they are interested in me, for whatever reason. This afternoon I just learned a lot about myself. I learned a lot. Things I didn't have any idea worried me. About my dad and mother.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:35242-35456 opinion first hand
108
Whitley Strieber said he still loved his mother and father very much and wanted to believe that his father's death had been as gentle and loving a moment as his mother always described.
“I loved my mom and dad so much. I love my mom, still, and I want to believe that at the end it was as gentle and loving a moment as Momma has always said.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:35717-35866 testimony first hand
109
The March 1, 1986 hypnosis session ended with a decision to continue the following week.
“The session then ended with a decision to continue later in the week.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:36187-36251 administrative first hand
110
On the Sunday night following the hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber telephoned his mother Mary Strieber in San Antonio, Texas, as he did every week or two, without telling her about the hypnotic recall.
“The next night (Sunday. March 2) I called my mother in San Antonio, as I MY to do every week or two. I told her nothing about this matter.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:36257-36388 testimony first hand
111
During the phone call, Mary Strieber unprompted described Karl Strieber's death to Whitley Strieber, a description she had only given once before, the day after Karl died.
“Then, without warning, she suddenly described my father's death to me. I did not ask her to, nor was I even hoping that she would. In the past ten years I have heard this description only once before, the day after he died.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:36586-36804 testimony first hand
112
Mary Strieber recounted that she had been sitting near Karl Strieber while he lay on the couch after a restless afternoon, and that the doctor had told her a few days earlier that his heart would soon fail.
“She recounted how she had been sitting near him while he lay on the couch. He had spent a restless afternoon. The doctor believed that his heart would soon fail, and had told my mother this just a few days before.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:36810-37016 testimony second hand
113
In the last years of their marriage, Karl Strieber and Mary Strieber had become extremely close, often sitting hand in hand together.
“In the last years of their marriage they had become extremely close, often sitting hand in hand together, in the wordless communion that sometimes blesses very old relationships.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:37100-37264 testimony first hand
114
Mary Strieber told Whitley Strieber that she had suddenly heard Karl Strieber call her name, went to him and said 'Karl, wake up,' but he was lying still and silent.
“Mother told me again how she had suddenly heard Dad call her name, and had gone to him and said, "Karl? Karl, wake up." He was lying still and silent .... It was as easy as that.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:37389-37562 testimony second hand
115
Whitley Strieber blamed himself for the lack of intimacy in his relationship with his father, feeling that his father had reached out more than he withdrew, while he himself had moved away.
“I blamed myself for the lack of intimacy in my relationship with my father. He reached out more than he withdrew. Even though I loved him, I moved away.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:37878-38025 opinion first hand
116
Whitley Strieber considered the possibility that his experience with the visitor was a real blessing from another reality, questioning why it would then be hidden in amnesia.
“If this was a real visitor, giving me a real blessing from some other reality, then why was it hidden in amnesia where I could not gain access to it?”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:38718-38864 opinion first hand
117
Whitley Strieber speculated that his visitor experience might have been a side effect of a study, or that it was designed in detail by insightful minds slowly acclimatising humanity to the visitors' presence.
“Maybe my experiences were only a side effect of some sort of study. Or maybe it was known even then that this rich treasure would eventually be open to me, because the whole experience had been designed in detail by insightful minds engaged in a slow process of acclimatizing humanity to their presence.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:38868-39162 opinion first hand
118
Whitley Strieber acknowledges there is always a possibility that he was unconsciously eager to comply with a desired outcome during hypnosis, even though Dr. Donald Klein did not ask provocative questions.
“While Don Klein certainly didn't ask provocative questions, there is always the possibility that I was unconsciously eager to comply with an outcome that I might secretly have longed for.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:3890-4073 opinion first hand
119
Whitley Strieber considered that the hypnosis may have revealed a hidden and tremendously therapeutic potential rather than only the possible presence of visitors.
“Perhaps the hypnosis revealed not just the possible presence of visitors but the action of a hidden and tremendously therapeutic potential which, if correctly marshaled, could be of great value.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:39218-39406 opinion first hand
120
Whitley Strieber noted that modern accounts of visitors contain only one oblique reference to the use of a wand-like object to strike a person's forehead, similar to the fairy-literature tradition of the Middle Ages.
“While there is a long tradition in the fairy literature of the Middle Ages of the use of wands to grant insight... modern accounts of visitors contain only one oblique reference to this process.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:39414-39575 opinion first hand
121
A woman who had an enigmatic visitor encounter in the 1950s slowly became insane afterward, and would claw at the centre of her forehead in the same place Whitley Strieber was struck with the wand, to the point of gouging herself.
“A woman who had an enigmatic visitor encounter in the fifties slowly became insane thereafter. As she did so she would claw at the center of her forehead in the same place where I was struck with the wand, to the point that she gouged herself almost”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:39731-39974 hearsay second hand
122
The March 5, 1986 hypnosis session covering the December 26, 1985 abduction experience took place a few days after the March 1, 1986 hypnosis session.
“We met again a few days later.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:41319-41343 administrative first hand
123
Whitley Strieber avoided reading about close encounters or psychosocial explanations for such experiences during the four days between hypnosis sessions, on the advice of Dr. Donald Klein and Budd Hopkins.
“It was a great effort not to go to the library and get half a dozen books about close encounters, and another half dozen about possible psychosocial causes for such experiences. But I agreed with Dr. Klein and Budd Hopkins that I must remain as ignorant of this material as possible until after my hypnosis.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:41438-41736 testimony first hand
124
Whitley Strieber had spent the three years prior to his abduction experiences working on books about nuclear war and environmental collapse.
“I'd spent the past three years working on books about nuclear war and environmental collapse.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:4180-4264 administrative first hand
125
Budd Hopkins told Whitley Strieber that first hypnosis sessions were often traumatic because the recovered memories are buried due to being frightful.
“Budd Hopkins told me that first hypnosis sessions were often traumatic. These memories are buried for a reason: They are frightful in the extreme.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:42838-42976 testimony second hand
126
Whitley Strieber, describing his emotional state after beginning to recover the December memories, said he felt an urgency toward compliance and a wish to find mutuality with the beings on his own terms.
“I felt complex emotions, ranging from the deepest inner unrest to what I can only describe as an urgency to compliance. I wanted to come together with them on my terms, to find some sort of mutuality.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:43462-43652 testimony first hand
127
Whitley Strieber's son described being taken out onto the porch by "a bunch of little doctors."
“My boy's words haunted me—" . . . a bunch of little doctors who took me out on the porch . . ."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:43704-43787 hearsay second hand
128
Budd Hopkins was present during the March 5, 1986 hypnosis session covering December 26 and was permitted to question Whitley Strieber under rules agreed to in the previous session.
“Again, Budd Hopkins was present and allowed to question me under the same rules agreed to in the previous session.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:44102-44208 administrative first hand
129
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled having supper in the country on the evening of December 26, 1985 with Anne Strieber and their son.
“"In the country." ... "Anne and our son."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:44454-44506 testimony first hand
130
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled that in the weeks before Christmas 1985 he felt scared and unhappy and repeatedly searched the house at night, believing people might be hiding in it.
“I had a hard time up until Christmas. ... Was-scared. Unhappy. I felt like the world was caving in on me. Kept thinking there were these people hiding in the closet. Went all through the house every night. Checking.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:44853-45099 testimony first hand
131
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled hiding his nightly house-checking behaviour from Anne Strieber and their son.
“"Did your wife ask you why- you were looking in the closet?" "No. She never saw." "You hid that from her?" "Yeah. And from my boy."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:45515-45643 testimony first hand
132
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled having bought a riot gun in mid-October 1985 for protection because he had a feeling there were people in the house.
“"I've got a gun." "What sort of gun?" "Riot gun." ... "We went to the gun store. About . . . the leaves were falling .... I don't know, I think it was . . . in October . . . middle of October . . . but I went right out and got it" ... "What did you want it for?" "Protection." "From what?" "Not sure. I just have the feeling sometimes . . . there are people in the house."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:45648-46077 testimony first hand
133
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled going to bed on the night of December 26, 1985 after kissing Anne Strieber goodnight, hearing snow on the house, and listening to a jazz radio programme called "Our Front Porch" before falling asleep.
“We go to sleep in bed. I have a real good book to read. Give Anne kiss. Can hear the snow on the house, a little bit of snow. Turn out the light. I go to sleep. ... I listen to the radio for a while. They have on 'Our Front Porch'? Jazz.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:46372-46638 testimony first hand
134
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled a being entering his bedroom wearing what looked like large cards on its chest and middle, a round hat, and a face mask with two eyeholes and a round hole below them.
“Comes right in the door, looks like he's wearing — cards. God damn! I can really see this! He looks like he's wearing cards. On his chest, this big, square blue card on his chest. An oblong one down on his middle. And he has on a — a round hat. And he's wearing a face mask with two eyeholes and a round hole between them down toward the bottom”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:46809-47148 testimony first hand
135
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled that a large number of small, bald-headed beings wearing blue coveralls filed into his bedroom in two rows.
“And there's a hell of a lot of them! Filing into the room! I'm talking about a lot of them. They're not wearing the cards. They're wearing overalls — coveralls — blue. I can see their heads, which are bald. ... There's two whole rows of 'em.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:47249-47451 testimony first hand
136
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled that the small beings moved him from hand to hand, describing them as little enough that he could almost pick one up with one hand.
“They're moving me. They're moving me. Are they moving me from hand to hand? They're little bitty people. I feel like I could almost pick. one of them up with one hand.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:47670-47832 testimony first hand
137
Whitley Strieber was taken downstairs onto the front porch of the house, where he saw a black iron cot.
“(I was taken downstairs onto the front porch, where I saw a sort of black iron cot.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:47840-47918 testimony first hand
138
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled that going down off the back of the porch he had the sensation of flying and being carried out into the woods, far from the house.
“And it goes off the back of the porch and I know this is a dream because I'm flying. I'm flying so this must be a dream. ... Where is the snow? We're way out in the woods. way the hell.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:48532-48735 testimony first hand
139
Whitley Strieber tried to hear one of the beings explaining something to him but could not later repeat what he heard, and found it terrifying.
“(I was trying to hear one of them, who was explaining something to me. But I could not repeat what I heard. Whatever it was, it terrified me. I opened my eyes.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:48965-49118 testimony first hand
140
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled lying naked on a device shaped to hold his arms, feet and head, being carried through the air by a swarm of beings surrounding him while looking up at the sky and clouds, feeling numb but not cold.
“No, they're carrying me. At least they're around me. ... And I'm naked and I'm not cold. And I can see the sky. ... there's two places for my arms . . . and it's not like a bed. It's got places for my feet and it's got a place for my-head.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:49602-49905 testimony first hand
141
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled sitting in a small hole in the woods while frightened beings were nearby, then suddenly shooting straight upward in the device, rising more than approximately 30 metres above the treetops, feeling like riding in an elevator.
“I just shot right up out of the woods. In this chair. this thing. I just went *whoompf*, right up out of the woods. ... I must have gone up a hundred feet. More than a hundred feet. Up past the trees. ... It was like going up in an elevator.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:51102-51398 testimony first hand
142
Whitley Strieber recalled other witnesses reporting a similar sensation of sailing up into the air during their own encounters, though he did not himself see what vehicle or device he entered.
“(Other people have. reported this sailing up into the air also. I did not see what I entered.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:51220-51304 hearsay
143
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled being brought into a small, unclean room that smelled unpleasant, like cheese, where he sat on a bench.
“I'm sitting on a bench in a little room. [Sniffs.] And it smells funny. Smells somethin' like cheese in here. Smells kind of nasty, to tell you the truth. It's not clean in here.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:51737-51911 testimony first hand
144
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled a female-seeming being wearing a tan suit who looked like she was made of leather, with a clearly visible head, approaching him in the small room.
“Now she walks right past me in the front. And she's wearing a tan . . . suit. She looks like a little person made out of leather, sort of. I see the head real clearly”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:51992-52151 testimony first hand
145
Whitley Strieber sought a hypnotherapist who held no prior belief about the visitors or the disk phenomenon and had an open mind.
“It could not be somebody who believed anything in particular about visitors or the disk phenomenon. The ideal therapist would have an open mind”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:520-659 observation first hand
146
Whitley Strieber noted that a small round room and a being wearing a tan suit are common features described across other abduction accounts, and considered this particular being's looks consistent with a commonly described type of visitor, especially regarding the eyes.
“(The little room. usually round, is almost a universal experience. A tan suit is also common, as is the description of the skin. Gloving leather has been described. This being, by the way, did not look even a little human. Her looks coincide with one type of visitor that is often described, especially the eyes.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:52305-52611 opinion first hand
147
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled the female-seeming being telling him she was old, in a deep, basso profundo voice.
“"'You know what, I think you are old? Are you old?'" "She says, 'Yes, I'm old.'" ... (In this exchange. I remembered a deep, basso profundo voice.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:52621-52693 testimony first hand
148
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled the being telling him an operation would be performed on him, and that he refused, saying they had absolutely no right, while the being replied "We do have a right."
“She then told me that an operation would he performed.) "'Aww, what is it? What do you mean an operation?...'" ... "'I'm not gonna let you do an operation on me. You have absolutely no right.'" "'We do have a right.'"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:52955-53191 testimony first hand
149
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled feeling a bang behind his head that was not loud and caused no pain, while the female being sat in front of him watching and others moved around behind him.
“"Just a bang back behind my head, that's all. Not loud. Just bang. She's sittin' right in front of me the whole time, just lookin' at me. They're moving around back there." (I could sense them, but I was looking at her.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:53765-53979 testimony first hand
150
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled the being drawing out an object resembling a penis and inserting it into him, causing distress but no described pain.
“She drew something up from below.) "Jesus, is that your penis?' I thought it was a woman [Makes a deep, grunting sound.] That goes right in me. [Another grunt.] Punching it in me, punching it in me. I'm gonna throw up on them.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:53984-54206 testimony first hand
151
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled the beings trying to open his mouth with their hands and attempting to put something into his mouth.
“(They began trying to open my mouth with their hands.) "'What do you keep wanting to do that to my mouth for?' They keep trying to put something in my mouth.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:54224-54374 testimony first hand
152
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled seeing inside the small room a bench, what looked like a pair of old clothes, and a closed round door with a small black nubbin in the middle.
“I had a chance to look around in here. And there's a bench, and there's something like a pair of old clothes lying over there on the side. And there's a door. A round door. And it's closed. It has a little black nubbin in it. In the middle of it. And it's closed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:54578-54834 testimony first hand
153
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled a voice telling him "You are our chosen one," which he did not believe and considered ridiculous.
“"Voice: 'You are our chosen one.'" "I don't believe that for a minute. It's ridiculous."'”
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Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled the being asking him whether he was aroused, and a further voice exchange asking what he would like the being to be, to which he replied he would like it to be a dream.
“(She asked if I was as hard as I could get. I did not know exactly what was meant.) "'I guess I am.'" "Voice: 'Can you be harder?'" ... "Voice: 'What would you like me to be?'" "'What would I like you to be? I'd like you to be a dream, is what I'd like you to be.'"”
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Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled being cut on his finger by one of the beings, which did not hurt.
“"You just cut me on my finger.' Just like that. He just comes up, pow, bang, gone. Doesn't hurt at all. Doesn't hurt at all.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:56273-56392 testimony first hand
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Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled being returned to his living room in less than a minute, with no memory of where he had just come from.
“(I went sailing right back into my living room in no more than a minute. I had no memory of where I had just come from.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:56646-56759 testimony first hand
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Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled returning to his bedroom after the experience, brushing his teeth, putting on his blue pajamas, getting into bed, and touching Anne Strieber, who was warm.
“I go in the bathroom, brush my teeth. I can't get that face out of my head. I sure am glad to get home. Now I have to just go to bed. I see my dark pajamas, blue pajamas. put on my pajamas, tie them up. button them up, get right into bed. I touch Anne. and she's warm God.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:57029-57297 testimony first hand
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Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber described the female-seeming being as bald with a big head, bulging eyes, brown/leather-coloured skin, and floppy lips with no clear lip shape.
“She's got bald she's got a big head and her eyes have bulges . . . she's sort of brown-skinned. not like a black person but like leather. Yellow-brown. And when she opens her mouth her lips are all — she hasn't got lips exactly — but it flops down. Her lips are floppy.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:57602-57864 testimony first hand
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Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled that a device resembling a big, gray, alive-feeling object with a small cage-like end about the size of a thumb had been inserted into him, and that he did not remember it being removed.
“It was a big, gray thing with what looked like a little cage on the end of it, a little round nubbin about the size of the end of your thumb. And they shoved it into me . . . they showed me afterward . . , so they must have taken it out of me, but I don't remember them doing it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:58671-58947 testimony first hand
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Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled that he did not believe the "chosen one" message and thought the beings were trying to flatter him.
“Because they say, 'You are our chosen one,' and it's just bullshit. Like they're trying to stroke me, you know.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:59243-59349 testimony first hand
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During hypnotic recall of the 1957 train trip abduction memory, Whitley Strieber recalled seeing many soldiers in uniform lying unconscious on solid, legless bed-like tables extending in both directions.
“"Tables — no, they were beds, but they were solid — no legs. They were going out in both directions, sort of."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:62804-62909 testimony first hand
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During hypnotic recall of the 1957 train trip abduction memory, Whitley Strieber recalled sitting up and being restricted in his movements in front of a gray box-like object whose top he could not see.
“I was sitting in a chair and here was a gray thing in front of me like a gray box that came down — totally gray — I could see the edges of it and the bottom but not the top.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:63254-63423 testimony first hand
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During hypnotic recall of the 1957 train trip abduction memory, Whitley Strieber recalled that the family was returning from Madison, Wisconsin, by train in 1957 when the recalled events occurred.
“We were coming back from Madison, Wisconsin, on a train. In the year 1957. and that's when all this happened.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:64153-64253 testimony first hand
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During hypnotic recall of the 1957 train trip abduction memory, Whitley Strieber recalled that his family travelled in a large drawing room rather than seats on the train.
“we were in a great big drawing room.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:64452-64483 testimony first hand
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During hypnotic recall of the 1957 train trip abduction memory, Whitley Strieber recalled seeing his sister lying down and completely unconscious nearby.
“all of a sudden I saw my sister down here, kind of [points down and to the right], lying there just totally out.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:65580-65688 testimony first hand
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During hypnotic recall of the 1957 train trip abduction memory, Whitley Strieber recalled being violently sick, vomiting bile, on the return trip.
“on the way back I was as sick as a dog. Vomiting and vomiting, up bile.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:66799-66865 testimony first hand
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During hypnotic recall of the 1957 train trip abduction memory, Whitley Strieber recalled his father being present and appearing terrified.
“He was having a hell of a time with me because I was so sick.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:66983-67039 testimony first hand
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During hypnotic recall of the 1957 train trip abduction memory, Whitley Strieber recalled recognising a female figure ('the woman') as someone he had seen before in a previous experience.
“You know what I saw before? The woman. The same person.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:67158-67206 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled that before undergoing hypnosis he had a vague memory of knowing one of the beings involved in his experiences, but dismissed the thought as impossible.
“I remembered vaguely before hypnosis that I knew someone there. But I just put that out of my mind because that's impossible.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:67431-67545 testimony first hand
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What follows in the text are two transcripts of hypnotic regressions covering Whitley Strieber's buried memories of the October 4 and December 26, 1985 abduction experiences.
“What follows here are two transcripts of hypnotic regressions, covering my buried memories of October 4 and December 26, 1985.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:7224-7345 administrative first hand
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Whitley Strieber considers the mechanism that buried his abduction memories to be no different from that which places any particularly terrifying experience behind a wall of amnesia.
“The mechanism that buried them is no different from that which places any particularly terrifying experience behind a wall of amnesia.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:7460-7586 opinion first hand
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Whitley Strieber considers the hypnosis used on him not qualitatively different from that used on police witnesses.
“The hypnosis used on me was not qualitatively different from that used on police witnesses.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:7680-7761 opinion first hand
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Dr. Donald Klein met Whitley Strieber in his gray office on East Seventy-ninth Street in Manhattan.
“Donald Klein met me in his subdued gray office on East Seventy-ninth Street in Manhattan.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:8141-8220 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber describes Dr. Donald Klein as a tall man with curly hair and a quiet demeanour who projected command and confidence in his hypnotic skills, and who was thorough, careful, and had a very acute mind.
“He is a tall man with curly hair and a quiet demeanor. Two things were immediately apparent to me about him as a hypnotist. First, I sensed command; he was confident of his skills. Second, he was a thorough, careful man with a very acute mind.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:8231-8469 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber had never been hypnotized before his session with Dr. Donald Klein and was apprehensive about relinquishing control over himself.
“I had never been hypnotized before, and I was apprehensive about it... I was afraid of relinquishing control over myself, which seemed deeply disturbing.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:8476-8644 observation first hand
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Dr. Donald Klein told Whitley Strieber that even under hypnosis people cannot be readily compelled to say things they do not want to say.
“I found, though, that I trusted Don Klein when he told me that even under hypnosis people cannot be readily compelled to say things they do not want to say.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:8785-8937 opinion second hand
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Whitley Strieber wanted a therapist who was a skilled hypnotist with a strong reputation in the scientific community.
“this therapist would have to be a skilled hypnotist as well ... I wanted somebody with a reputation in the scientific community as a real expert”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:880-1055 observation first hand
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During the hypnosis, Whitley Strieber felt he retained a will of his own while remaining open to suggestion.
“I still felt as if I had a will of my own, a sensation that was never to leave me. In fact, the hypnotized subject does have a will of his own, very much so. But he is also open to suggestion.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch10:9801-9982 observation first hand
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On the night of the October 4, 1985 abduction experience, Jacques Sandulescu saw a light.
“The light seen by Jacques Sandulescu on October 4, the scampering heard Annie Gottlieb, and the explosion perceived by myself, my wife, Annie. and my son suggested that whatever happened that night was more than a psychological experience.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:10563-10791 testimony second hand
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Annie Gottlieb heard a scampering sound the same night as the October 4, 1985 abduction experience.
“the scampering heard Annie Gottlieb”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:10614-10641 testimony second hand
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Whitley Strieber, his wife Anne Strieber, and his son perceived an explosion the same night as the October 4, 1985 abduction experience.
“the explosion perceived by myself, my wife, Annie. and my son”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:10655-10713 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber has no memory of being taken when he was twelve years old aboard a moving train, apart from the hypnotically recovered account.
“I had no memory at all of being taken when I was twelve, let alone when we were aboard a moving train.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:11345-11441 testimony first hand
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In 1957, Whitley Strieber, his sister, and his father took a trip to Madison, Wisconsin, to see his aunt, uncle, and their children.
“My sister and father and I did take a trip in 1957 to Madison, Wisconsin, to see my aunt and uncle and their children.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:11746-11855 testimony first hand
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On the return trip from the 1957 Madison, Wisconsin visit, Whitley Strieber was horribly sick.
“On the way back I was horribly sick.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:11865-11896 testimony first hand
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The family had a drawing room on the Texas Eagle train from Chicago to San Antonio, with much of the trip taking place at night, during the 1957 return from Madison, Wisconsin.
“We had a drawing room on the Texas Eagle from Chicago to San Antonio, and much of the trip took place at night.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:11902-12007 testimony first hand
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The day before Whitley Strieber met Budd Hopkins, he almost jumped out a window.
“The day before I met Budd Hopkins I almost jumped out a window.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:13213-13269 testimony first hand
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Dr. Donald Klein's open-mindedness in the face of the fearful and fantastic helped Whitley Strieber learn to live with uncertainty.
“Don Klein's open-mindedness in the face of the fearful and the fantastic has been instrumental in helping me to learn to live with uncertainty.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:13524-13655 opinion first hand
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Dr. Donald Klein told Whitley Strieber, after Strieber's hypnosis session, that he thought Strieber was sane.
“Don Klein was an acknowledged expert and, even after this hypnosis session, he told me that he thought I was sane.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:1369-1478 testimony first hand
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Beginning in April 1986, Whitley Strieber undertook a great deal of research, reading thousands of pages of material about the UFO phenomenon and its scientific and cultural implications.
“And with my strength there came, beginning in April 1986, a great deal of research. I read thousands of pages of material about the whole phenomenon and all its scientific and cultural implications.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:13733-13918 testimony first hand
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About two weeks after Whitley Strieber's last hypnosis session, he, Anne Strieber, and their son returned to the cabin for the first time since Christmas.
“About two weeks after my last hypnosis session, the three of us returned to the cabin for the first time since Christmas.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:16462-16573 testimony first hand
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At the time of returning to the cabin, Anne Strieber still knew little about the experiences and their son knew nothing.
“Anne still knew little, our son, nothing.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:16584-16617 testimony first hand
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After Anne Strieber underwent hypnosis and learned the whole story, she said she would never have turned away from the cabin.
“Later, after Anne had herself undergone hypnosis and knew the whole story, she said that she would never, ever have turned away from the cabin.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:16924-17061 opinion second hand
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Whitley Strieber bought a burglar alarm and motion-sensitive lights out of a persistent undertone of fear despite appearing normal.
“I felt watched. even though I knew that I was not actually being observed. I bought my dun. I had the burglar alarm installed. I got the motion-sensitive lights.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:18745-18899 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber later listened to tapes of other people's abduction memories and hypnosis sessions, with their permission.
“Much later I listened to the tapes of other people's memories and hypnosis sessions (with their permission)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:2004-2100 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled memories of the December 26, 1985 abduction experience becoming distinct while in the cabin room, including memories of the visitors coming, his terror, and a paradoxical loyalty to their commands.
“Being in the room again, my memories of December 26 grew quite distinct. I could see the visitors coming, could recall my terror, my paradoxical loyalty to their commands.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:20147-20309 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber remembered the visitors being quick and precise in their movements and remembered their smell.
“They were quick and precise in their movements. I remembered the smell of them, the look of their places, and above all I remembered how it was to be with them.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:20371-20526 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled under hypnosis sweeping off his cabin porch on the night of December 26, going into the air with small beings swirling around him.
“How clearly I recalled sweeping off the porch beyond on the night of the twenty-sixth, going into the air with the little people swirling around me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:21223-21370 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled under hypnosis an image of his cabin, his dark bedroom window, and his son's window below it with a night light shining behind the curtains.
“Remaining in my mind's eye is an image that I remembered under hypnosis of my cabin, of my dark bedroom window and my son's window below it with the night light shining faintly behind the curtains.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:21374-21562 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled that as he left during the December 26, 1985 abduction experience he felt a sorrow as if he had died, which he believes is why the moment was buried in amnesia.
“As I left I felt a sorrow as if I had died, and that is why the moment was buried in amnesia.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:21572-21657 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber participated in a colloquy with other people who remember being taken by the visitors.
“I then participated in a colloquy with other people who remember being taken.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:2158-2229 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled an impression of the trees below him being swept up together in a great mass of flashing trunks and limbs, after which he found himself sitting in a small depression with guards around him.
“Then there was an impression as if all the trees below me were suddenly swept up together in a great mass of flashing trunks and limbs. When they straightened themselves out again I was sitting in the small depression with some guards around me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:21667-21909 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled that a voice he heard during the experience seemed to be inside his head.
“The voice I remembered was one that had appeared to be inside my head.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:22013-22078 testimony first hand
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The human brain, as an electrical device, has a faint electromagnetic field and emits weakly in the radio part of the spectrum, including an extra-low-frequency (ELF) electromagnetic field wave at a frequency between 1 and 30 hertz.
“The brain is an electrical device. As such it has a faint electromagnetic field and even emits very, very weakly in the radio part of the spectrum. Specifically, it contains a portion of an extra-low-frequency (ELF) electromagnetic field wave at frequency between 1 and 30 hertz.”
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Whitley Strieber found that multiple-episode memories are commonplace among people who report being taken by the visitors.
“There I found that multiple-episode memories are quite commonplace. Many people who report being taken report a lifetime pattern much like the one I had discovered.”
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The human heart and musculature develop electromagnetic fields in the extra-low-frequency (ELF) range.
“The heart and musculature also develop electromagnetic fields in the extra-low-frequency range.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:22467-22556 opinion first hand
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Whitley Strieber considers it possible that a more advanced technology could mediate mental and physical functioning using sensitive extra-low-frequency (ELF) transmitters and receivers, and considers this a plausible explanation for hearing voices inside the head.
“A more acute technology than our own might be able to mediate mental and physical functioning to a great degree by the use of sensitive ELF transmitters and receivers... it has just enough plausibility to suggest that external control of the mind, and even the implantation of perceptions (hearing voices inside the head), is not beyond the realm of possibility.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:22564-22988 opinion first hand
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The earth itself generates a good deal of extra-low-frequency (ELF) electromagnetic radiation in the 1 to 30 hertz range.
“I should add here that the earth itself generates a good deal of ELF in the 1 to 30 hertz range.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:23002-23092 opinion first hand
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Whitley Strieber speculated that natural ELF conditions on earth might trigger a psychological experience in the brain, and that the old gods, fairy lore, and the modern visitors could be side effects of an unrecognised relationship between humans and the planet.
“Maybe we have a relationship with our own planet that we do not understand at all, and the old gods, the fairy, and the modern visitors are side effects of it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:23268-23424 opinion first hand
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Whitley Strieber was intellectually unsure about what the visitors were, but his emotional response to them was as if they were real people, albeit nonhuman ones.
“Intellectually, I was unsure about what the visitors were. But my emotional self did not share that indecision. My emotional response was to real people, albeit nonhuman ones.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:23628-23798 opinion first hand
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Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled rising out of the woods and feeling a sensation of rushing upward as if in an extremely fast elevator, seeing the trees below him glowing faintly with a covering of snow.
“When I rose out of the woods under hypnosis, I actually felt the sensation of rushing upward, just as if I were in an extremely fast elevator. I saw the trees below me, standing in the night, glowing faintly with a covering of snow.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:23848-24075 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled that the space he entered during the abduction smelled like warm Cheddar cheese with a hint of sulfur, and that this sulfur odour has been reported by other abductees.
“The space I entered smelled like warm Cheddar cheese with a hint of sulfur. This sulfur odor has been reported by others.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:24152-24266 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled a discarded coverall lying partly on a bench and partly on the floor in the space he entered during the abduction experience.
“There was a discarded coverall lying partly on the bench, partly on the floor.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:24274-24346 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber had the strong impression that he was in a living room of some sort during the abduction, while most other people who report the experience feel they are in an examination room.
“I had the strong impression that I was in a living room of some sort. For the most part, people feel that they are in an examination room.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:24353-24486 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recognised one of the visitors present with him as a being he identified as female, based on her graceful movements, feelings of sexual arousal she created in him, and the memory of her hand touching his chest.
“Sitting before me was the most astonishing being I have ever seen in my life, made the more astonishing by the fact that I knew her... perhaps because her movements are so graceful, perhaps because she has created states of sexual arousal in me, or maybe it is simply the memory of her hand touching the side of my chest one time.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:24493-24874 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber found in subsequent months that other people who had the abduction experience often felt familiar with one of the visitors, usually perceived to be of the opposite sex.
“In subsequent months I found that people who have had the experience often felt that they were familiar with one of the visitors, and usually perceived this person to be of the opposite sex.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:24920-25106 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber observed that people who have had abduction experiences generally come forward with a single memory, or perhaps two, and were usually stunned to discover a continuity of experience across their lives.
“People generally appeared for help with a single memory, maybe two. When they discovered a continuity of experience they were usually as stunned as I was.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:25111-25261 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber noted that the fact of people reporting multiple-visitor experiences over the course of their lives has been published very minimally, even in the UFO literature.
“I also noticed that the fact that people report multiple-visitor experiences over the course of their lives had been published very minimally, even in the UFO literature.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:25266-25425 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber believed that his own hypnosis was the first time he had encountered the notion of multiple visitor experiences over a lifetime, which seemed to him a fantastically improbable idea.
“I was virtually certain that my own hypnosis was the first time I had encountered what seemed to me to be a fantastically improbable notion.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:25437-25570 opinion first hand
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Whitley Strieber observed that published accounts of visitor encounters generally avoid describing multiple experiences, because a single experience already stretches credibility so much that repeated experiences seem impossible to maintain as an assertion.
“Published accounts generally avoided this aspect, because a single experience with the visitors stretches credibility so much that an assertion like this seems impossible to maintain.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:25743-25917 opinion first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled the female being he knew having amazing, electrifying eyes, described as featureless in that he could see neither pupil nor iris.
“She had those amazing, electrifying eyes . . . the huge, staring eyes of the old gods .... They were featureless, in the sense that I could see neither pupil nor iris.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:26046-26208 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled the female being's hands as wide when placed flat and narrow and long when dangling at her sides, with a structure perhaps of bones faintly visible under the skin.
“Her hands were wide when placed flat, narrow and long when dangling at her sides. There was a structure, perhaps of bones, faintly visible under the skin.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:26288-26437 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled that parts of the female being's body seemed almost like a sort of exoskeleton, similar to an insect.
“And yet other parts of her body seemed almost like a sort of exoskeleton, like an insect would have.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:26443-26538 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber's conscious memories of the abduction experiences did not fully emerge until the first week of January 1986.
“The conscious memories didn't really come before the first week in January 1986.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:2653-2728 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber felt he might love the female being he encountered, almost as much as he might love his own anima, along with feelings of terror and fascination.
“In some sense I thought I might love this being —almost as much as I might my own anima. I bore toward her the same feelings of terror and fascination that I might toward someone I saw staring back at me from the depths of my unconscious.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:26581-26807 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber felt he had no personal freedom, could not speak, and could not move as he wished in the presence of the female being.
“In her presence I had no personal freedom at all. I could not speak, could not move as I wished.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:26929-27018 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber, reflecting by the fire, wondered whether giving up his autonomy to the being might bring not only fear but also a deep sense of rest, comparing it to a kind of dying.
“If I could give up my autonomy to another. I might experience not only fear but also a deep sense of rest. It would be a little like dying to really give oneself up in that way, and being with her was also a little like dying.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:27229-27449 opinion first hand
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By the summer of 1985, Whitley Strieber had become nervous about "people in the house" and bought expensive burglar alarms.
“as early as the summer of 1985 I had become nervous about "people in the house," even to the point of buying expensive burglar alarms”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:2739-2866 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled feeling as helpless as a baby, crying and frightened like a baby, when the visitors held him in their arms.
“When they held me in their arms, I had been as helpless as a baby, crying like a baby, as frightened as a baby.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:27457-27563 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber felt that when the female being looked directly into his eyes, he felt his first taste of profound unease, as if every vulnerable detail of himself were known to her.
“Her gaze seemed capable of entering me deeply, and it was when I had looked directly into her eyes that I felt my first taste of profound unease. It was as if every vulnerable detail of my self were known to this being.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:27886-28099 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber felt he could actually feel the presence of the being within him, which was as disturbing as it was curiously sensual.
“I could actually feel the presence of that ocher person within me — which was as disturbing as it was curiously sensual.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:28250-28362 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber described the visitors' eyes as often described as 'limitless,' 'haunting,' and 'baring the soul.'
“Their eyes are often described as "limitless," "haunting,"' and "baring the soul."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:28371-28448 observation first hand
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In October 1985, Whitley Strieber bought a shotgun out of fear of intruders.
“and, in October, a shotgun.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:2873-2892 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber attempted to move back to central Texas, where he grew up.
“I even tried to move — back to central Texas, where I grew up.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:2902-2961 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled having a distinct impression that the female being he encountered was very old, not just aged like an elderly person.
“I'd had a very distinct impression of her, that she was old. Not just aged, like an elderly person, but *really* old.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:29435-29548 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber remembered the female being's voice, describing it as soft and having a lilting quality when she spoke in his head.
“I still remember her voice, soft, coming from I know not where, answering me: "Yes, I'm old." When she spoke in my head, there was a lilting quality to it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:29596-29748 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber found he was more fearful in Texas than in New York.
“It is interesting to note that I was, if anything, even more fearful in Texas than I was in New York.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:2965-3061 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled that when the female being used her voice audibly, it was startlingly deep and sounded like it was booming from the depths of a cave, despite coming from so slight a creature.
“But when she used her voice, it was startlingly deep to be coming from so slight a creature. It was more than a bass: It sounded like it was booming out from the depths of a cave.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:29752-29926 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled protesting to the female being about the operation, saying 'You have no right,' when she reassured him it would not hurt him.
“I remembered my protest to her when she reassured me about the operation not hurting me... "You have no right," I had said.”
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Whitley Strieber recalled the female being responding to his protest with the words 'We do have a right.'
“"We do have a right." Five enormous words. Stunning words. *We do have a right*.”
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Whitley Strieber did not think the world was actually ending, but could easily have been persuaded that the biosphere would soon change so catastrophically that an immense amount of human life would be lost.
“I did not think that the world was actually ending, but I could easily have been persuaded that the biosphere would soon change so catastrophically that an immense amount of human life would be lost.”
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Whitley Strieber recalled his father taking him to a slaughterhouse in Fort Worth, Texas, where he heard the rumble of panic, saw the bucking backs of the steers, and the creamy whites of their eyes.
“I remembered when my father took me to a slaughterhouse in Fort Worth. and I heard the rumble of panic and saw the bucking backs of the steers and the creamy whites of their eyes.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:31788-31962 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled that at a research institute in San Antonio he saw monkey cages with rows of doctored capuchins, shaved, with their pink heads sewn or laid delicately open, and trembling brain probes, with vocalization centres stimulated for graduate students.
“And at a research institute in San Antonio I saw monkey cages with rows of doctored capuchins, shaved, their pink heads sewn or laid delicately open, and the trembling brain probes and the gabble of noise when the vocalization center of one of them was stimulated for the information of graduate students.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:32092-32388 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled seeing monkey carcasses in a dumpster at the research institute in San Antonio.
“I saw monkey carcasses in the dumpster, too.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:32572-32612 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber felt he had been captured like a wild animal on December 26, 1985, rendered helpless and dragged out of his den into the night.
“I had been captured like a wild animal on December 26, rendered helpless and dragged out of my den into the night.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:32845-32953 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber felt that the visitors had changed him and done something to him, rather than simply studying him, though he could not articulate what that night.
“Nor did I feel that they were simply studying me. Not at all. They had changed me, done something to me. I could sense it clearly that night but I could not articulate it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:32961-33129 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber, during the encounter, was called their 'chosen one' by the female visitor, after which he got angry and reacted with scorn, viewing it as a ploy.
“After the dialogue about rights, the female called me their chosen one and I proceeded to get mad. I viewed it as a ploy and reacted with scorn.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:33321-33459 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled the female visitor responding to his anger by wagging her head from side to side and singing 'Oh, no. Oh, no,' with insistence and humour in her voice.
“She wagged her head from side to side, singing "Oh. no. Oh, no." There was insistence in her voice, and humor.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:33466-33570 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recalled a free-floating, unplaced memory of a woman wearing a white floral-pattern dress standing before a group of visitors shouting 'Praise the Lord' as she was told she had been chosen.
“There was just this woman in a white floral-pattern dress standing before a group of them shouting "Praise the Lord" as she was told she had been chosen.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:33725-33871 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber's most difficult part of his hypnotic material was a sudden regression to the year 1957.
“The most difficult part of my hypnotic material was the sudden regression to 1957.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:36011-36088 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber walked through SoHo and into the empty streets of TriBeCa on the night he described.
“I went out again and walked some more, going down through SoHo and into the empty streets of TriBeCa.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:3947-4040 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber describes long visitation-type experiences as including the 1957 train trip, an incident in Austin the August before the encounter at his grandmother's house, and the December 26, 1985 abduction experience.
“the long visitation, as the ones that occurred when we were on the train in 1957, in Austin the August before the incident at my grandmother's, and on December 26, 1985.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:100068-100232 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber believes short visits tend to concern psychological activity while long visits involve more physical testing.
“The short visits seem almost always to concern psychological activity, the long ones to involve more physical testing, almost as if preparations are made or results observed during those times.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:100338-100525 opinion first hand
253
By December 1985, Whitley Strieber estimates he may have had encounters with the visitors at least a dozen times.
“By the time December 1985 came around, I may have had these encounters at least a dozen limes.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:100533-100621 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber states that each time the encounter experience took place, he was as frightened, tormented, and astonished as before, without learning from prior instances.
“And yet I never learned from them. Each time the experience took place, I was as frightened, as tormented, as astonished as before.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:100628-100752 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber suggests his mind may have been prevented from compartmentalising the encounter experiences together the way it does with recurring dreams and nightmares, so each experience was perceived without reference to past encounters.
“My actual condition almost seems to suggest that there was an attempt to render me as helpless as possible, by placing me in a state where each experience was perceived in and of itself, without reference to past encounters.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:101181-101394 opinion first hand
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Only the roof over the wing containing Whitley Strieber's bedroom burned in the 1958 house fire; the rest of the house was not destroyed.
“Fortunately the entire house had not burned, only the roof over the wing containing my bedroom.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:10124-10211 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber describes a consistent flavour of intense, biological terror running through his memories of the encounters.
“Running through my memories there is a consistent flavor of intense terror. But is it only my terror. the terror of the body, biological terror.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:101446-101583 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber has the impression that the visitors' experiences of contact with humans may themselves be intense or frightening for them.
“I have the impression that these experiences are very intense for them, if not actually frightening.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:101755-101843 opinion first hand
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Whitley Strieber considers Communion to be a chronicle both of his discovery of a visitor's presence in the world and of how he has learned to fear the visitors less.
“this book then becomes a chronicle not only of my discovery of a visitor's presence in the world but also one of how I have learned to fear them less.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:102058-102203 opinion first hand
260
On the morning after the March 10, 1986 hypnosis session covering the fogbank incident, Whitley Strieber awoke feeling as though he had been beaten up during the night and aware of a new mental image.
“The morning after the hypnotic session covering my experience with the fogbank (March 11, 1986) I awoke not only feeling as if I had been beaten up during the night, I was aware of something new in my mind.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:102594-102795 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber suspects the 1958 house fire was related to the effect his antigravity machine had on the wiring, rather than to any other cause.
“although I have a feeling that it was related more to the effect a little boy's antigravity machine had on the wiring than to the hostility of annoyed visitors.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:10265-10416 opinion first hand
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Whitley Strieber recognised the face that appeared vividly in his mind as the grave, implacable, subtly humorous face he had come to recognise from hypnosis sessions.
“there was a face staring directly at me, the grave, implacable, subtly humorous face I had come to recognize from hypnosis.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:102999-103113 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber initially assumed the vivid mental image of the being was a side effect of the hypnosis session, occurring because Dr. Donald Klein had asked for many details about her appearance.
“This was disturbing and I was eager to expel it, assuming it to be a side effect of the hypnotic session, occurring because Dr. Klein had asked for so many details about her appearance.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:103209-103383 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber attempted to calm himself by sitting on the floor of his office and meditating, directing his concentration to his physical centre of gravity below the navel.
“I went into my office and sat on the floor, going deed into a state of meditation. I drew my concentration to my body, directing my attention to my physical center of gravity just below the navel, and away from my racing mind.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:103553-103774 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber found that the mental image of the being did not fade after meditation but instead became far more clear, unlike any other imagistic material he had experienced.
“It took only a moment for me to see that the image had not gone away. On the contrary, it had be come far more clear. It wasn't anything like any other imagistic material I had ever had in my mind.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:103781-103973 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber states he has never had eidetic, or photographic, memory, making this new image something unprecedented for him.
“I have never had eidetic, or photographic, memory, so this image was something very new for me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:104120-104212 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber found he could not adequately communicate to Budd Hopkins and Dr. Donald Klein how special the mental image seemed to him.
“Despite my attempts to explain it to Budd Hopkins and Don Klein, I could not succeed in communicating to others just how special it seemed to me to be.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:104369-104517 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber speculates the mental image may have been triggered by the intense concentration of hypnosis evoking it from his unconscious, or that it resulted from the visitors responding to his attracted attention.
“I think that the image was somehow triggered by hypnosis. Maybe the intense state of concentration evoked it from my unconscious . . . or maybe I attracted the visitors' attention and they responded.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:104647-104836 opinion first hand
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Whitley Strieber's research after the image appeared found that eidetic memory is very rare in adults, almost nonexistent in Western cultures.
“After the image appeared I did research into eidetic memory and found that it is very rare in adults, almost to the point of being nonexistent in Western cultures.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:104848-105002 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber found that descriptions of eidetic images in his research did not correspond to his own experience, as people did not report their eidetic images having a life of their own.
“What's more, the descriptions I found of eidetic images did not even begin to correspond to what I was experiencing. People did not report that their eidetic images had a life of their own.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:105012-105197 testimony first hand
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In July 1957, Whitley Strieber's father took him and his thirteen-year-old sister from San Antonio to Madison, Wisconsin, to see his aunt and her family.
“In July 1957 my father took my sister, who was then thirteen, and myself from San Antonio to Madison, Wisconsin, to see his sister and her family.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:10530-10669 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber found that the mental image not only moved of its own accord but would also move on command, showing him its hands, face, and body details.
“I found that the image not only moved about of its own accord, it would move on command. It showed me its hands, its face, every detail of its body.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:105392-105535 testimony first hand
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When Anne Strieber asked Whitley Strieber to describe the being's feet in the mental image, the image showed a foot resembling a simple version of a human foot with a solid structure split in only one place instead of toes.
“Anne asked me to describe its feet and it leaned forward against something that I could not see and raised a foot, which appeared almost like a very simple version of a human foot. Instead of toes there was a solid structure split in only one place.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:105541-105784 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber considers the vivid mental image might be the result of an extraordinary connection with a real conscious being, or alternatively an act of his imagination constructing an argument for an external component to the experience.
“While I might indeed have been viewing the result of some extraordinary connection between myself and a real, conscious being, it may also be that this was an act of the imagination — the act of a mind calling upon itself to provide another argument in favor of this being an experience with an external component.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:105853-106157 opinion first hand
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During the 1957 family trip, the Striebers flew to Chicago and stayed at the Hilton hotel, where Whitley Strieber accidentally dropped a large milkshake out of a tenth-floor window.
“We flew to Chicago and stayed at the Hilton, where I accidentally dropped a large milk shake out of a tenth-floor window.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:10677-10791 testimony first hand
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Budd Hopkins suggested that Whitley Strieber get an artist to render the mental image of the visitor.
“Budd Hopkins suggested that I get an artist to render the image.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:107134-107192 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber chose Ted Jacobs as the artist to render the mental image because Ted Jacobs is skilled in creating portraits from verbal descriptions.
“We chose Ted Jacobs, because he is skilled in creating portraits from verbal descriptions.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:107199-107276 administrative first hand
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While describing the being's face to Ted Jacobs, Whitley Strieber observed a faint dusting of white, powdery fuzz over its cheeks and forehead that would feel as smooth as a baby's downy head.
“observing fine points such as the faint dusting of white, powdery fuzz that seemed to cover its cheeks and forehead, making it feel, I would imagine, to the touch ,as smooth as the downy head of a baby.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:107551-107748 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber observed that the being's nose was not very prominent, but the end seemed sensitive, almost like the end of a finger.
“The nose was not very prominent, but the end seemed sensitive, almost like the end of a finger.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:107754-107842 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber observed the being's mouth was not straight but had rich, complex lines, with an expression combining implacable will and mirth.
“The mouth was not straight, but rather one of those rich and complex lines that come to a human mouth with the advance of years. Centered in this mouth was a remarkable expression, the outcome, it seemed to me, of implacable will leavened by what I can only describe as mirth.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:107968-108238 observation first hand
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Ted Jacobs's cover portrait of the being for Communion is a bit more human-looking than Whitley Strieber's actual mental image of it.
“although the final result, on the cover of this book, is a bit more human than was actually the case.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:108339-108435 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber states that the being's mouth was actually nothing more than a complex line with no lips at all, and its cranium was larger than depicted on the cover portrait of Communion.
“Specifically, the mouth was nothing more than a line, albeit a complex one. There were no lips at all. And the cranium was a good bit larger than the cover portrait would suggest.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:108441-108612 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber observed that the being's chin was strong and very pointed, with a general impression that the skin was stretched over a plated bone structure.
“The chin was strong, very pointed, and there was a general impression that the skin was stretched over a plated bone structure.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:108622-108739 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber observed that the being's eyes were far larger than human eyes, with a suggestion of black iris and pupil, and optic structures that seemed to float behind wells of darkness.
“By far the most arresting feature in this face was the eyes. They were far larger than our own eyes. In them I once or twice glimpsed a suggestion of black iris and pupil, but it was no more than a suggestion, as if there were optic structures of some kind floating behind those wells of darkness.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:108751-109039 observation first hand
285
A week after arriving in Madison, Wisconsin, the Striebers returned to San Antonio by train.
“A week later we returned to San Antonio on the train.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:10890-10937 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber recognises the same large, gleaming eyes from the mental image as those he saw staring down at him during the October 4, 1985 abduction experience, the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, the summer of 1957, and the fogbank incident.
“It was those eyes that I saw staring down at me on October 4, those eyes that gleamed so furiously in the faint night light. I remember them from December 26, too, and from the summer of 1957, and from the experience with the fogbank.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:109050-109276 testimony first hand
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When Ted Jacobs asked Whitley Strieber how the being's eyes looked closed, the mental image spontaneously closed its eyes, showing the structures recede, wrinkle, and the lids close just below the eyeball's middle.
“When he asked me how they looked closed, I got another shock: The image closed its eyes. I saw the huge, glassy structures recede and loosen, becoming wrinkled, and the lids come down and up at the same time, to close just below the middle of the eyeball.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:109330-109577 observation first hand
288
Whitley Strieber has all his life had a memory of the 1957 return train, seen from above, rushing through the night.
“All my life I have had a memory of that train, seen from above, rushing through the night.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:10945-11029 testimony first hand
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When Ted Jacobs asked about a profile view, Whitley Strieber saw the mental image obediently turn its head.
“How about a profile view? Had I ever seen a profile? As I sat there staring into the darkness of my own mind. I saw the image obediently turn its head.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:109640-109786 observation first hand
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On March 1, 1986, Whitley Strieber made a complete physical description of the mental image on tape, and repeated the description again on March 23, finding no difference between the two.
“On March 1. I made a complete physical description on tape. On March 23 I repeated the description again, then compared the two tapes. There was no difference. The image was unchanged.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:110334-110508 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber observed that the being's skin appeared smooth but lacked a layer of fat, stretched tight over the bones, with knee and elbow joints reminiscent of grasshoppers or crickets.
“Under close scrutiny, its surface was smooth but did not seem to have a layer of fat under the skin, which was stretched tight over the bones. The structure of the knee and elbow fonts reminded me of the knees of grasshoppers or crickets.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:110668-110897 observation first hand
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Whitley Strieber observed that the being's hands were very long and tapered with three fingers and an opposable thumb, becoming flat and more pliable than human hands when pressed down, with short dark claw-like nails.
“The hands were very long and tapered when in repose, with three fingers and 'in opposable thumb. When pressed down, the hands became flat, suggesting that they were more pliable than our hands. On the fingers were short, dark nails of a more clawlike appearance than ours.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:110907-111174 observation first hand
293
Whitley Strieber's memory of the train shows thick pine woods, suggesting the location was Arkansas or farther north, since the Texas Eagle did not go through the pine forests of East Texas but rather across the plains between Texarkana and Dallas.
“There are thick pine woods, meaning that it must have been in Arkansas or farther north, for the Texas Eagle did not go through the pine forests of East Texas, but rather across the plains between Texarkana and Dallas and then south over rolling, featureless country.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:11104-11363 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber considers the being's overall body structure to appear simple rather than highly developed, with few bones and not much flesh.
“Overall, this did not appear to me to be a highly developed body , but rather a very simple one. There was a general lack of complexity shat suggested few bones and not much flesh.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:111181-111355 opinion first hand
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Whitley Strieber speculates that if the mental image was not created by the effect of Dr. Donald Klein asking him to visualise the creature, it might have been a sophisticated holographic projection.
“I do not know how to explain this image. If it was not created by the powerful effect of Don's, asking me to visualize the creature, then perhaps it was some sort of sophisticated holographic projection.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:111363-111555 opinion first hand
296
On the night of March 14, 1986, after returning from the hypnosis session covering events at the East Seventy-fifth Street apartment, Whitley Strieber sat down to think and wondered what would happen if he asked the mental image to come to him.
“Late on the night of March 14, after I had come back from the hypnosis session covering events in our apartment on East Seventy-fifth Street, I sat down once again to think things through. The image was with me, of course. I wondered what would happen if' I asked it to come to me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:111850-112129 testimony first hand
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On Saturday, the Strieber family went to their country house, and their son had invited a seven-year-old school friend for the weekend, with no discussion of flying disks or visitors around the children.
“On Saturday morning we went to the country. Our son had invited a friend, and we picked this child up on the way. She was one of his school friends, also seven... At no time were the subjects of flying disks, visitors, or any related material discussed at all.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:112739-113064 testimony first hand
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Before dinner, on a moderately clear night with a quarter moon, Whitley Strieber saw a hair-thin streak of light come straight down out of the sky while walking along the private road at the country house.
“Before dinner I took a walk along our quiet, private road. It was a moderately clear night, with a quarter moon. On the walk I saw a hair-thin streak of light come straight down out of the sky.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:113250-113439 observation first hand
299
During dinner, the son's seven-year-old guest shouted that a little airplane covered with lights had just flown through the front yard.
“our son's guest suddenly shouted, "A little airplane covered with lights just flew through the front yard!"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:113646-113747 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber told the frightened child there was an air base nearby to reassure her, though the nearest National Guard base was actually about forty-eight kilometres away.
“"There's an air base near here." I said. The National Guard base is thirty miles away, but it was all I could think to say.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:113978-114096 testimony first hand
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Anne Strieber had only been hypnotised for the first time the afternoon of the day before the country weekend, and knew almost nothing about what was happening with Whitley Strieber before that.
“She had only been hypnotized for the first time the afternoon of the previous day, and knew almost nothing about what was happening with me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:114315-114452 testimony first hand
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After Anne Strieber's own hypnosis session, she concluded that some sort of visitor experience might be involved, which is why the guest child's statement about the lighted object scared her.
“From her own hypnosis she had concluded that. some sort of visitor experience might be involved, and thus the little girl's statement scared her.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:114456-114597 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber concluded that the guest child's unprompted observation of the lighted object convinced him that on some level what was happening to him must be real, since neither child had heard anything about the visitors.
“Frankly, the kid's observation, coming as it did at that moment, had convinced me that on some level what was happening must be real. Why else would the child have made that announcement? Not a word about the visitors had been said within earshot of either of the kids, and the little girl was absolutely without information about this subject.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:114670-115006 opinion first hand
304
The next day, when Whitley Strieber asked the guest child if she knew what a flying saucer was, she replied "A what?" and showed no knowledge of the term.
“The next day I asked her if she knew what a flying saucer was. She replied, "A what?" ... "I don't know what that is.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:115568-115660 testimony first hand
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When Whitley Strieber later asked the guest child's father whether he remembered, had read about, or discussed flying saucers, the father gave noncommittal and confused answers, indicating no prior discussion of the topic with his daughter.
“"Do you remember flying saucers?" "Wha — yeah." "Ever read any books about them?" "Can't say that I have. "Ever discuss them?" "Whit, what is this about?"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:115926-116077 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber, having been raised in the 1950s, notes that a child of that era would have known about flying saucers because they were prominent news then, unlike in the 1980s.
“A child like I was, brought up in the fifties, would have known about flying saucers. They were big news in those days. But they aren't now, so it's not surprising that the little girl was uninformed, but it is important.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:116143-116355 opinion first hand
307
Whitley Strieber remembered a confused recollection of his father crouched at the back of an upper berth in their drawing room on the train, with bulging eyes and lips twisted back from his teeth.
“There was a sort of confused recollection of my father crouched at the back of an upper berth in our drawing room, his eyes bulging, his lips twisted back from his teeth.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:11633-11797 testimony first hand
308
Whitley Strieber considers the uninformed, innocent testimony of the guest child powerful evidence of the reality of the UFO phenomenon precisely because she had no prior knowledge of flying saucers.
“Precisely be cause it is so uninformed, it is powerful evidence of the reality of the phenomenon.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:116539-116625 opinion first hand
309
That evening, Whitley Strieber listened to music broadcast by WAMC radio station out of Albany while relaxing with his wife in their upstairs bedroom before the family went to sleep by ten o'clock.
“I was in a surprisingly benign mood, listening to music on WAMC out of Albany and enjoying being with my wife.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:117227-117332 testimony first hand
310
Whitley Strieber was awakened during the night by a jab on his shoulder and saw three small people in blue coveralls standing beside the bed, visible in the glow of the burglar-alarm panel.
“Sometime during the night I was awakened abruptly by a jab on my shoulder. I came to full consciousness instantly. There were three small people standing beside the bed, their outlines clearly visible in the glow of the burglar-alarm panel. They were wearing blue coveralls and standing absolutely still.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:117519-117817 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber describes the three beings during the March 15, 1986 visitation as stocky, dwarflike figures with gray humanoid faces and glittering, deep-set eyes, whom he associated with 'the good army' from the December 26, 1985 abduction experience.
“They were familiar figures, not the fierce, huge eyed feminine being I have described before, but rather the more dwarflike ones, stocky and solidly built, with gray. humanoid faces and glittering, deep-set eyes. They were the ones I felt were "the good army" when they took me tin December 26.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:117825-118116 testimony first hand
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During the March 15, 1986 visitation, Whitley Strieber found he could barely move his arm, describing the sensation as like pushing his arm through electrified tar, requiring intense will to achieve any movement.
“I can only describe the sensation I felt when tried to move as like pushing my arm through electrified tar. It took every ounce of attention I possessed to get any movement at all.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:118377-118553 observation first hand
313
During the March 15, 1986 visitation, Whitley Strieber found the light switch did not work despite the electricity being off, while the burglar alarm continued working on battery backup even though the beings had entered without tripping it.
“I clicked it. Nothing. Tried again. Still nothing. The electricity was off. The burglar alarm was still working because it had battery backup — but apparently it meant little to them, as they had entered the house without tripping it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:119032-119265 observation first hand
314
On the 1957 train trip, Whitley Strieber became violently ill, vomiting repeatedly for no apparent reason.
“My illness was violent. I vomited until I thought I would die, and for no apparent reason.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:11904-11987 testimony first hand
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During the March 15, 1986 visitation, Whitley Strieber saw beside his bed a version of the being he calls 'her,' but with round black-button eyes rather than slanted ones, appearing to wear an inept cardboard imitation of a blue double-breasted suit with a white triangle of handkerchief in the pocket.
“Beside my bed, and perhaps two feet from my face, close enough to see it plainly without my glasses. was a version of the thin ones, the type I have called "her." It was not quite right, though. Its eyes were like big, black buttons, round rather than slanted. It appeared to be wearing an inept cardboard imitation of a blue double-breasted suit, complete with a white triangle of handkerchief sucking out of the pocket.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:119443-119857 observation first hand
316
Whitley Strieber was overcome by terror so fierce and physical during the March 15, 1986 visitation that it seemed more biological than psychological.
“I was overcome at this point by terror so fierce and physical that it seemed more biological than psychological.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:119866-119964 observation first hand
317
Whitley Strieber decided to review the years of his past as an experiment to look for hints of visitor-related material.
“As an experiment I decided to return to my past and see just what I could come-up with. As best I was able I reviewed the years for hints of this material.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:1202-1348 testimony first hand
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During the March 15, 1986 visitation, Whitley Strieber tried to wake Anne Strieber but his mouth would not open.
“I tried to wake up Anne but my mouth wouldn't open.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:120207-120253 testimony first hand
319
During the March 15, 1986 visitation, when Whitley Strieber thought of his children, a clear picture flashed in his head of them sleeping peacefully.
“The moment I thought of the kids a clear picture flashed in my head of the two of them sleeping peacefully.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:120259-120355 testimony first hand
320
Whitley Strieber has a memory of a being pushing a bladder down his throat, connected to the 1957 train trip.
“Now I have added to this recollection a vivid memory of the being pushing a bladder down my throat.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:12060-12152 testimony first hand
321
Whitley Strieber saw the faces of the visitors clearly during the March 15, 1986 visitation, with dark, glittering eyes set in dun-coloured skin.
“I saw their faces so clearly, their eyes dark, glittering pits in their dun skin.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:120791-120867 observation first hand
322
Whitley Strieber perceived a sort of jollity about the visitors during the March 15, 1986 visitation and had previously thought they seemed happy.
“I could not help noticing that there was a sort of jollity about these beings. I'd thought before that they seemed happy.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:120873-120988 observation first hand
323
In 1968, Whitley Strieber experienced four to six weeks of missing time after a chase across Europe.
“In 1968 I ended up with four to six weeks of "missing time" after a desperate and inexplicable chase across Europe.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:12246-12354 testimony first hand
324
Whitley Strieber deliberately smiled at the visitors during the March 15, 1986 visitation, requiring absolute concentration of will and careful effort applied to the muscles of his face.
“Again it took an absolute concentration of will, a centering of my attention and the application of the most careful effort to the muscles of my face, but I did manage to smile.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:122555-122726 testimony first hand
325
Immediately after Whitley Strieber smiled during the March 15, 1986 visitation, the visitors dashed away with a whoosh and he was plunged almost at once back into sleep.
“Instantly everything changed. They dashed away with a whoosh and I was plunged almost at once back into sleep.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:122734-122838 testimony first hand
326
Whitley Strieber is quite certain that the beings he saw during the March 15, 1986 visitation were not a dream and probably not a hallucination.
“Frankly, I'm quite certain that the beings I saw were not a dream, and probably not a hallucination. What they were was an enigma.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:122936-123059 opinion first hand
327
After the March 15, 1986 visitation, Whitley Strieber had a dream that was an unfrightening repeat of one of the few really terrifying nightmares he has ever had, of being chased through a stark stone palace by a robot with beady pop eyes.
“Interestingly, my dream was an unfrightening repeat of one of the few really terrifying nightmares I have ever had. This was of being chased through a stark stone palace by a robot with beady pop eyes.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:123068-123264 testimony first hand
328
In the dream following the March 15, 1986 visitation, unlike in the recurring nightmare, Whitley Strieber did not run from the robot, and the robot sat down and stared at him.
“This time, however, I didn't run and the robot finally sat down and contented itself with staring at me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:123270-123371 testimony first hand
329
The morning after the March 15, 1986 visitation, Anne Strieber said it had been a quiet night and made breakfast while Whitley Strieber sat and stared.
“Anne said, "Well, it was a quiet night," and proceeded to make a beautiful breakfast while I sat and stared.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:123460-123561 testimony first hand
330
Whitley Strieber's 1968 missing time is associated with a memory of eating what he believed was a rotten pomegranate, which was so bitter it almost split his head apart.
“This is associated with a perfectly terrible memory of eating what I have always thought was a rotten pomegranate, which was so bitter that it almost split my head apart.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:12362-12526 testimony first hand
331
When Whitley Strieber told Anne Strieber about the March 15, 1986 visitation, she laughed merrily at the idea of the painted suit of aged design.
“When I told Anne about what had happened, she laughed merrily at the idea of the painted suit of aged design.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:123762-123864 testimony first hand
332
The morning after the March 15, 1986 visitation, the kitchen stove clock had lost five minutes during the night and Anne Strieber reset it.
“and reset the clock on the stove. which had lost five minutes during the night.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:123872-123945 observation first hand
333
Whitley Strieber has met another person who has also had an experience involving visitors wearing archaic-style clothing.
“I found that one of the other people I have met has also had an experience involving visitors in archaic quits.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:123953-124058 testimony first hand
334
Whitley Strieber considers that what happened the night of March 15, 1986 was fundamentally different, and more open, than any other contact he has had with the visitors.
“What happened the night of March 15 was fundamentally different, and more open, than any other contact I have had.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:124498-124608 opinion first hand
335
During the March 15, 1986 visitation, the visitors preceded their appearance to Whitley Strieber with the witness of a child present that night who had no prior relationship to the phenomenon.
“And they preceded their appearance to me by the witness of the uninvolved child, the one person there that night who had absolutely no relationship to this at all.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:124829-124988 testimony first hand
336
Weeks after writing the preceding material in the chapter, Whitley Strieber met a woman who described her visitor as a small being, very slender, with round eyes like shiny black buttons and a tiny, almost nonexistent mouth.
“Weeks after writing the material preceding in this chapter I met a woman who said she thought of her visitor as a man, and proceeded to describe a small being, very geode, with round eves like shiny black buttons arid a tiny, almost nonexistent mouth.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:125229-125474 hearsay second hand
337
Whitley Strieber remembers a nurse putting drops on his tongue to help him keep down what he ate during the 1968 missing time, though he was never in a hospital.
“A nurse put drops on my tongue to help me keep it down. But what nurse? Where? I was never in a hospital.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:12533-12629 testimony first hand
338
Whitley Strieber believes the imitation suit shown to him during the March 15, 1986 visitation must have been a form of communication.
“This was what I had seen, or a model of it. The suit must have been a form of communication.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:125482-125560 opinion first hand
339
Whitley Strieber has heard the visitors speak, and others have heard it too.
“Why not simply speak? They have a voice of sorts. I have heard it, others have heard it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:125576-125661 testimony first hand
340
Whitley Strieber believes the visitors can also speak inside the centre of a person's head.
“And they can also speak in the center of the head.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:125666-125711 opinion first hand
341
Whitley Strieber's impression is that the visitors, if they exist, are deeply afraid of human beings.
“My impression is that these people, if they exist, are more than a little afraid of us: They are deeply afraid.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:126043-126147 opinion first hand
342
During the March 15, 1986 visitation, Whitley Strieber asked the visitors for confirmation, not proof, and believes they took him at the exact meaning of the word.
“I asked for confirmation, not proof. It seems that they took me at the exact meaning of the word.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:126367-126459 testimony first hand
343
Whitley Strieber remembers something being stuffed in his mouth on the night of December 26, and that beings tried to get it opened, after which he brushed his teeth.
“Something might have been stuffed in my mouth on the night of December 26. I certainly remember them trying to -get it opened. And afterward I brushed my teeth.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:12640-12794 testimony first hand
344
Whitley Strieber's father laboured to help him during his illness on the 1957 train, and afterward the sleeping-car porter came in and held him over the toilet.
“I remember, though, how my father labored to help me, and after he grew tired the sleeping-car porter came in and held me over the toilet.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:13485-13616 testimony first hand
345
A doctor appeared in his bathrobe on the train and tried to get Whitley Strieber to drink water during his illness.
“A doctor appeared in his bathrobe and tried to get me to drink some water.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:13624-13692 testimony first hand
346
Whitley Strieber's illness on the 1957 train began suddenly in the middle of the night and continued until morning, and he was sleeping soundly when the train arrived at the MoPac station in San Antonio.
“The illness had begun suddenly in the middle of the night and continued until morning. I was sleeping like the dead when the train finally pulled into the old MoPac station in San Antonio.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:13699-13879 testimony first hand
347
Whitley Strieber's father carried him to a cab at the MoPac station and they went home.
“My father carried me to a cab, and we went home.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:13888-13931 testimony first hand
348
After returning home from the 1957 trip, Whitley Strieber told a story of hearing a wolf howling and seeing one on the roadside, though he was confused even as he told it.
“I remember it was then that I told a story, which has remained in the back of my mind for years, of hearing a wolf howling and seeing one on the roadside. Even as I told that story I remember being a little confused.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:14352-14559 testimony first hand
349
Whitley Strieber knew even as he told the wolf story that he and his family had not actually seen a wolf or heard one howl.
“I knew even as I spoke that we hadn't really seen a wolf, or heard one howl.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:14965-15036 testimony first hand
350
Whitley Strieber's memory of the December 26, 1985 abduction experience was at first blocked by a recollection of an owl.
“My memory of the December 26 incident was at first blocked by the recollection of the owl.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:15181-15267 testimony first hand
351
Whitley Strieber saw an owl once before, during the events of 1968.
“I saw an owl once before, too, during the events of 1968.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:15272-15324 testimony first hand
352
Whitley Strieber's sister has a story about an owl, dating from the early 1960s.
“Oddly enough, my sister also has a strange story about an owl. Sometime in the early sixties”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:16448-16533 hearsay second hand
353
Whitley Strieber's sister was driving between Kerrville and Comfort, Texas, well after midnight in the early 1960s when she was terrified to see a huge light sail down and cross the road ahead of her.
“She was terrified to see a huge light sail down and cross the road ahead of her.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:16616-16692 hearsay second hand
354
A few minutes after the light sighting, an owl flew in front of Whitley Strieber's sister's car.
“A few minutes later an owl flew in front of the car.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:16697-16745 hearsay second hand
355
Whitley Strieber's sister has no sense that her owl and light sighting was a screen memory.
“but my sister has no sense that it is.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:16799-16834 testimony second hand
356
Whitley Strieber remembers being terrified as a child by an appearance of Mr. Peanut, though he knows he never saw Mr. Peanut except on a Planters can.
“I remember being terrified as a little by an appearance of Mr. Peanut, and vet I .know that I never saw Mr. Peanut except on a Planter's can.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:16896-17033 testimony first hand
357
Whitley Strieber used to say he was menaced by Mr. Peanut at a Battle of Flowers Parade in San Antonio, but now understands it never happened.
“I said that I was menaced by him at a Battle of Flowers Parade in San Antonio, but I now understand perfectly well that it never happened.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:17038-17167 testimony first hand
358
Whitley Strieber told for years of being present at the University of Texas when Charles Whitman went on his 1966 shooting spree from the tower, but he was not actually there.
“For years I have told of being present at the University, of Texas when Charles Whitman went on his shooting spree from the tower in 1966. But I wasn't there.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:17177-17329 testimony first hand
359
Whitley Strieber spent much time as a child peeking into closets and under beds, a behaviour that became much more intense in 1985 but ended completely after he uncovered his memories.
“Maybe that's why I spent so much time peeking into closets and under beds. If I really face the truth about this behavior, I must admit that it has been going on for a long time, although in 1985 it became much more intense. Now that I have uncovered these memories, though, it has ended completely.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:17439-17727 testimony first hand
360
Whitley Strieber says he cannot remember a time in his life when he has felt as well and as happy as he does at the time of writing.
“I cannot remember a time in my life when I have felt as well and as happy as I do now.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:17761-17843 testimony first hand
361
During the hypnosis session recalling the 1957 memory, Whitley Strieber's regression began spontaneously without warning after the phrase "You are our chosen one."
“For, me the trigger seems to have been the "You are our chosen one" speech.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:18535-18603 testimony first hand
362
During the hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber saw a flashing image of a lady in a flowered dress being given an elaborate speech and shouting "Praise the Lord."
“At that instant there was a flashing image of the lady in the flowered dress being given some sort of elaborate speech, and shouting "Praise the Lord" when she heard it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:18645-18811 testimony first hand
363
During the hypnosis session, Dr. Donald Klein asked Whitley Strieber what "others" meant, and Strieber found himself in another place but with the same or similar being before him.
“Then Dr. Klein asked what others, and I found myself in vet another place but with the same being still before me, or somebody who looked very much like her.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:18815-18968 testimony first hand
364
During the hypnosis regression, Whitley Strieber recalled sitting up in bed looking around at other beds containing American soldiers lying asleep, resembling tables with solid bases and a slight inward cant, coloured gray.
“I was excited, sitting tip in bed, looking around at the other beds, all of which contained American soldiers lying down asleep. These beds were really more like tables with solid bases and a slight inward cant from bottom to top. I remembered them as being gray in color.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:18974-19240 testimony first hand
365
Whitley Strieber recalled the soldiers as young men in fatigues, sprawled as if totally comatose.
“The soldiers were young men in fatigues, and they were sprawled as if totally comatose.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:19248-19326 testimony first hand
366
During the hypnosis session, Dr. Donald Klein asked Whitley Strieber his age, and Strieber answered "Twelve."
“It was then that Dr. Klein asked me my age, and I heard myself say, "Twelve."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:19336-19405 testimony first hand
367
During the hypnosis regression to age twelve, Whitley Strieber felt he had become his childhood self again, feeling smaller, different, and innocent, without the weight of adult knowledge.
“I changed completely, remarkably. I was my childhood self again. It was quite wondrous. I felt smaller, I felt verve different. My mind felt different. Gone was the weight of knowledge. For those few moments I was innocent again.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:19415-19639 testimony first hand
368
In the regressed memory, Whitley Strieber recalled being pleased that he was awake while even the soldiers were asleep, and then found himself sitting in a little chair before a featureless gray surface with no apparent transition.
“I was quit. pleased with myself. There was no apparent transition between the time I was sitting up awake and the time I was in a little chair, sitting before a featureless gray surface.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:19786-19964 testimony first hand
369
Under hypnosis, Whitley Strieber recalled seeing a landscape with a great hooked object floating in the air that on closer inspection proved to be a triangle.
“After hypnosis I recalled seeing a landscape with a great hooked object floating in the air, which on closer inspection proved to be a triangle.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:20051-20186 testimony first hand
370
As a child, Whitley Strieber recalled sitting in the middle of a little round room being asked hard questions by a surrounding audience of interlocutors.
“the many recollections I have always had of sitting in the middle of a little round room and being asked by a surrounding audience of furious interlocutors questions so hard they shatter my soul”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:20588-20778 testimony first hand
371
As a child, Whitley Strieber was allowed to ask no more than three questions per school period at St. Anthony's School because he was known as an extremely persistent questioner.
“In my childhood I was known as an extremely persistent questioner, so much that in school I was allowed to ask no more than three per period so that I would not take up all the time.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:21624-21801 testimony first hand
372
During the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, Whitley Strieber was told that the soldiers present were all brought there because they were alone.
“I asked who the people around me were, and was told what was obvious even to me. They were all soldiers. Then I wanted to know why they had been brought here. The answer is telling: "Because they were alone."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:21973-22174 testimony first hand
373
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that the visitors' craft favour isolated areas over cities because there are too many risks in populated areas.
“The craft seem to favor isolated areas. They do not appear as often over cities, and there are not many stories of their taking people from heavily populated places. Perhaps a limitation of technology is visible here: There are simply too many risks in populated areas.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:22278-22541 opinion first hand
374
During the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, when Whitley Strieber asked what was being done to the soldiers, the being replied that they would look them over and send them home.
“"We look then over and send them home."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:22638-22670 testimony first hand
375
During the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, when Whitley Strieber asked why the being looked so awful, it replied that it could not help that.
“When I asked her why she looked so awful, she replied almost absently, without stopping her work, "I can't help that."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:23910-24022 testimony first hand
376
Whitley Strieber wonders whether people who imagine beautiful godlike beings connected to flying saucers are unable to face the fierce eyes, bad smells, dreadful food, and helplessness he associates with the visitor experience.
“These believers seem to be people who cannot face the stark reality of the visitor experience, and so cloak the fierce, limitless eyes, the bad smells, the dreadful food, and the general sense of helplessness in a very human mythology.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:24256-24481 opinion first hand
377
Whitley Strieber has a photograph of himself from the spring of his twelfth year showing him wearing the uniform of St. Anthony's School in San Antonio.
“I found a photograph of myself during the spring of my twelfth year, which showed me to the uniform of St. Anthony's School in San Antonio.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:2463-2594 testimony first hand
378
The photograph of Whitley Strieber at age twelve is inscribed "For my dear father with love. Whitty."
“The picture is inscribed: "For my dear father with love. Whitty."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:2728-2785 testimony first hand
379
Whitley Strieber compares the appearance of the beings he encountered to the ancient image of Ishtar with entirely black eyes and no hair.
“The closest thing I have been able to find to an unadorned image of these beings is not from some modern science-fiction movie, it is rather the age-old, glaring face of Ishtar. Paint her eyes entirely black, remove her hair, and there is my image as u hangs before me now in my mind's eye.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:28018-28304 opinion first hand
380
During the night of March 21, 1986, at the cabin, Whitley Strieber awoke unable to move or open his eyes and had the impression something was in his left nostril being slowly moved up his nose.
“Sometime in the night of March 21 at the cabin I awoke and found myself unable to move or even to open my eyes. I had the distinct impression that there was something in my left nostril, and that it was being slowly moved far up my nose.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:30140-30372 testimony first hand
381
During the March 21, 1986 nasal probe incident, Whitley Strieber heard a pop like an apple crunching between his eyes when he tried to struggle.
“When I tried to struggle, I heard a pop like an apple crunching between my eyes.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:30378-30453 testimony first hand
382
After the March 21, 1986 nasal probe incident, Whitley Strieber noticed his nose hurt with a little bleeding.
“I noticed during the day that my nose hurt. There was a little bleeding.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:30505-30568 testimony first hand
383
After March 15, 1986, both Anne Strieber and Whitley Strieber's son reported episodes of nasal bleeding and little knots in their nostrils, without memory of anything being inserted into their noses.
“After March 15, they'd both had episodes of nasal bleeding, and little knots in their nostrils.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:30807-30893 testimony first hand
384
Anne Strieber developed a knot in the top of her right nostril after March 15, 1986.
“Specifically, Anne had a knot in the top of her right nostril, my son in his left I now developed one in my left nostril.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:30903-31016 testimony first hand
385
Whitley Strieber's son developed a knot in his left nostril after March 15, 1986.
“my son in his left I now developed one in my left nostril”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:30966-31016 testimony first hand
386
On March 26, 1986, Whitley Strieber's doctor diagnosed the knot in his nostril as a scratch to the nasal mucosa and correctly predicted it would subside on its own.
“He looked at it on March 26 and diagnosed it as a scratch to the nasal mucosa that had led to the formation of the knot. He correctly predicted that it would subside on its own over a period of days.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:31153-31347 testimony first hand
387
On July 26, 1986, Dr. Donald Klein wrote to Whitley Strieber that many of his symptoms were consistent with an abnormality in the temporal lobe, and that testing this involved a nasal probe.
“I thought no more about this until July 26, 1986, when I received a letter from Donald Klein in which he mentioned that many of my symptoms were consistent with an abnormality in the temporal lobe, and that the method of testing this involved a nasal probe.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:31354-31605 hearsay second hand
388
In May 1957, Whitley Strieber's younger brother was born.
“In May of that year my younger brother had been born.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:3137-3185 testimony first hand
389
Whitley Strieber concluded that temporal-lobe disorder did not explain the overwhelming sense of reality connected with his experiences, the physical consequences, or the witnesses.
“But the more I studied temporal-lobe disorder, the less it seemed an answer. It did not explain the overwhelming sense of the real connected with my experiences. It did not explain the physical consequences. It did not explain the witnesses. Nor did it explain the experiences of others.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:32281-32561 opinion first hand
390
The week after receiving Dr. Klein's letter, Whitley Strieber met a woman with the visitor experience who said the visitors inserted a probe into her nose that made a sound like an apple crunching between her eyes.
“As it happened, the week after I received Dr. Klein's letter I met a woman who has had the visitor experience; she began her story by saying that the visitors inserted a probe into her nose, which made a sound "like an apple crunching," between her eyes.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:32897-33146 hearsay second hand
391
In the summer of 1957 Whitley Strieber read Life on the Mississippi by Mark Twain.
“That summer I read *Life on the Mississippi*”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:3300-3332 testimony first hand
392
The woman who described a nasal probe experience to Whitley Strieber had drawn pictures of the probe and the entity that inserted it, and described the probe as a needle with a small, knifelike handle.
“She had even drawn pictures of the probe and of the entity that had inserted it. The probe was a businesslike affair, a needle with a small, knifelike handle.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:33152-33303 hearsay second hand
393
Whitley Strieber recognised the entity described by the woman with the nasal probe experience because he had seen such beings himself.
“The entity was familiar to me because I had seen such beings also.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:33311-33372 testimony first hand
394
Of the roughly one hundred cases Budd Hopkins provided to Whitley Strieber, four (including Strieber) reported intrusions in or behind the ear.
“Of his hundred cases, four including me reported intrusions in or behind the ear”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:33478-33555 measurement second hand
395
In the summer of 1957 Whitley Strieber discovered the writing of Franz Kafka.
“it was also the summer of my discover, of' Kafka.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:3349-3393 testimony first hand
396
Of the roughly one hundred cases Budd Hopkins provided to Whitley Strieber, three reported intrusions under the eye.
“three under the eve”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:33560-33576 measurement second hand
397
Of the roughly one hundred cases Budd Hopkins provided to Whitley Strieber, eleven (including Strieber) reported intrusions up the nose.
“eleven, again including me, up the nose”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:33585-33620 measurement second hand
398
Whitley Strieber and his son, who both had injuries to the left nostril, are left-handed.
“For what it may be worth, my son and I, who had injuries to the left nostril, are also left-handed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:33818-33910 observation first hand
399
Anne Strieber is right-handed.
“Anne is right-handed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:33918-33932 observation first hand
400
Whitley Strieber found his mother reading The Metamorphosis by Franz Kafka.
“One afternoon I found my mother reading *The Metamorphosis*.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:3400-3445 testimony first hand
401
Whitley Strieber arranged two separate temporal lobe tests during 1986 temporal lobe testing, one by a neurologist recommended by Dr. Klein and another through a different psychiatrist.
“I decided that I would arrange two separate temporal lobe tests, one by a neurologist recommended by Dr. Klein. and another through a different psychiatrist.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:34329-34473 testimony first hand
402
During the 1986 temporal lobe testing, the second neurologist found no evidence of temporal-lobe abnormality in Whitley Strieber, matching the first neurologist's conclusion.
“This second neurologist carried out the' same preliminary examination done by Dr. Klein's man and came to the same conclusion: There was no evidence of abnormality.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:34487-34639 testimony first hand
403
After reading The Metamorphosis, Whitley Strieber read The Trial by Franz Kafka.
“After that I read The Trial.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:3461-3483 testimony first hand
404
During the 1986 temporal lobe testing, Whitley Strieber took chloral hydrate and had electrodes inserted deep into his nasal cavity, with results showing absolutely normal temporal lobe function confirmed by both neurologists.
“I went to :t lab, took chloral hydrate, and endured the insertion of electrodes deep into my nasal cavity a few days later the re stilts came back: absolutely normal temporal lobe function, confirmed by both neurologists.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:34832-35040 measurement first hand
405
Whitley Strieber went to the San Antonio Public Library on the bus and read Kafka in the reading room until switching to Robert Benchley for the rest of the afternoon.
“I'd go down to the San Antonio Public Library on the bus and, sit in the big reading room under the fan and read Kafka until the librarian started getting uneasy, then I'd shift to Robert Benchley for the balance of the afternoon.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:3490-3710 testimony first hand
406
Whitley Strieber concluded he is not a temporal-lobe epileptic.
“And I am not a temporal-lobe epileptic.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:35145-35174 opinion first hand
407
During the February 7, 1986 smell and missing time incident, Whitley Strieber and his wife smelled a distinct odour like smouldering cardboard that was familiar from the past.
“I could smell a distinct odor as if of smoldering cardboard, and it was familiar from the past. My wife could also smell this odor; it was one we had both smelled man, times.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:37424-37592 testimony first hand
408
On the night of the February 7, 1986 smell and missing time incident, Whitley Strieber also smelled an odour as of cheese and cinnamon that he remembered from the December 26, 1985 abduction experience.
“as if of cheese and cinnamon, that I remembered from December 26.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:37687-37749 testimony first hand
409
During the February 7, 1986 smell and missing time incident, Whitley Strieber discovered that four hours had passed without his noticing, having turned a page at midnight and next seeing that it was 4 a.m.
“I was shocked to discover that hour hours had passed without my noticing. very suddenly. I was reading at midnight, turned a page. and saw by the clock that it was four A.M. and I was no longer wearing my pajamas.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:37805-38010 testimony first hand
410
On the morning of February 8, 1986, Whitley Strieber found two triangles inscribed on his left forearm, one larger and straight and delicately incised, and a second tiny triangle pointing at the larger one.
“When I got up the next morning I found two little triangles inscribed on my left forearm. The larger triangle was quite straight. delicately incised in just the outer few skin layers as if by the work of a skilled master surgeon. The other triangle. very tiny. was pointing at the larger one.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:38020-38362 testimony first hand
411
Whitley Strieber last smelled the smouldering cardboard odour in 1972 or 1973, during a visit to San Antonio to see his family, connecting it to the 1972-1973 San Antonio small figure sighting.
“I last smelled it in 1972 or 1973. My wife and I had gone down to San Antonio to see my family, and we were sleeping in my sister's old bedroom on the second floor of the house.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:38684-38855 testimony first hand
412
During the 1972-1973 San Antonio small figure sighting, Whitley Strieber saw a small, dark figure with a red light in its hand burst out of his old bedroom and dash downstairs, much smaller than a human being.
“a small, dark figure with a red light in its hand burst out of my old bedroom and dashed downstairs. I was momentarily astonished, but decided that it must have been a family member. The fact that this individual was much smaller than a human being did not bother me in the least”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:39195-39469 testimony first hand
413
Whitley Strieber notes that reports of visitors carrying small lights parallel fairy lore accounts of glowing "fairy stones."
“There are reports of visitors carrying small lights, and the fairy lore contains dozens of instances of "fairy stones" that glowed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:39635-39759 opinion first hand
414
Whitley Strieber met a young woman who has had visitor experiences whose story of a disappearing pregnancy is medically documented as not being of hysterical origin.
“Another individual I have met who has had visitor experiences, a young woman whose story of a disappearing pregnancy is medically documented as not being of hysterical origin, also describes a lifetime of running.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:40103-40308 testimony first hand
415
Whitley Strieber discovered that the young woman with visitor experiences lives a block from him in Manhattan.
“And it turns out that she lives a block from me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:40413-40458 observation first hand
416
At age nine, Whitley Strieber was sleeping outside with a friend on a Texas summer night when something woke them in the early hours.
“At the age of nine I had been sleeping out with a friend on a lovely Texas summer night when something woke us up in the wee hours, perhaps an owl killing a rat, the stopping of the crickets, or moonset.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:41001-41196 testimony first hand
417
Whitley Strieber and a friend explored a vacant lot of tall sunflowers behind his house at night and heard someone approaching, causing both boys to run.
“The vacant lot behind our house was then an acre of tall sunflowers, taller than either of us boys. We were wandering through these stalks when we heard someone coming toward us. My friend turned and ran. I stood there, then turned and ran as well.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:41435-41678 testimony first hand
418
When Whitley Strieber reached the sleeping bags after running from the vacant lot, he found his friend already deeply asleep and could not wake him.
“When I reached our sleeping bags I was astonished to find him already so completely asleep that I could not wake him up.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:41684-41801 observation first hand
419
Whitley Strieber and the same childhood friend saw a huge object cross the sky one summer night.
“He and I also saw a huge object cross the sky one summer night, an event that I have always remembered as particularly strange.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:42035-42154 observation first hand
420
Whitley Strieber called his childhood friend after a gap of twenty-five years to ask about the two nighttime incidents.
“I called him after a lapse of twenty five years. We talked for some time, then I asked about those two nights.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:42163-42266 testimony first hand
421
Whitley Strieber's childhood friend recalled the object seen in the sky as huge and strange-looking, and remembered a black car present at the time.
“He had this to say about the second: "Oh, yes, I remember that thing. It was huge. It looked just like a — well, it was strange-looking. And there was a black car."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:42428-42587 testimony second hand
422
Whitley Strieber recalled that immediately after the unidentified object passed overhead, an old black car showing no lights went racing down Elizabeth Road in the same direction the object had gone.
“Immediately after the object passed overhead an old black car showing no lights went racing down Elizabeth Road in the same direction that the object had gone.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:42617-42771 observation first hand
423
Whitley Strieber recalled flying with some people over neighbourhood roofs in something like a rubber raft, and waking on more than one morning with bits of grass and twigs in his bed.
“I also recalled flying with some people over the roofs of the neighborhood in a thing like a rubber raft, and waking up on more than one morning with bits of grass and twigs in my bed, as if I had been abroad to the night.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:42990-43206 testimony first hand
424
Whitley Strieber has a memory of a terrifying round object hanging in a forgotten babyhood sky, and of seeing a crowd of big grey monkeys coming up across a hillside, apparently at his grandmother's country home when he was about two, in the summer of 1947.
“There wasn't anything else even that specific, except for a memory of a terrifying round object hanging in some forgotten babyhood sky, and seeing a crowd of big, gray monkeys coming up across the hillside. Apparently this took place at my grandmother's country home when I was about two, which would have been in the summer of 1947.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:43214-43542 testimony first hand
425
In late August 1967, Whitley Strieber had rented a new studio apartment and moved back to Austin, Texas, from San Antonio for the semester at the University of Texas at Austin.
“In the last week of August I had just rented a new studio apartment and moved back to Austin from San Antonio for the semester”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:43767-43885 testimony first hand
426
In September 1967, Whitley Strieber experienced what he now understands to have been a "missing time" experience lasting at least twenty-four hours.
“I had an experience I now understand to have been what is known as a "missing time" experience, lasting at least twenty-four hours.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:43899-44024 testimony first hand
427
During the September 1967 Austin missing-time experience, Whitley Strieber was sitting on the couch eating a TV dinner at noon and was confused to discover the dinner appeared to have moved from his lap to the coffee table and gone cold.
“I was sitting on the couch about noon eating a TV dinner when I was confused to discover that the dinner seemed to have hopped from my lap onto the coffee table and gone cold.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:44082-44250 testimony first hand
428
During the September 1967 Austin missing-time experience, Whitley Strieber found the oven timer showing a little after six with the sky still light, then moments later the timer showed midnight and the sky was black, with no memory of the intervening hours.
“One moment the timer showed a little after six and the sky outside the kitchen window was glowing, then I moved toward the phone and the timer showed midnight and the sky was black. It was exactly as if six hours had somehow passed in less than a second.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:45041-45288 testimony first hand
429
During the September 1967 Austin missing-time experience, Whitley Strieber found himself in front of the sink with the water running into a full glass, and his watch reading four-fifteen.
“The next thing I knew, I was in front of the sink. The water was running and running into a full glass. My watch said four-fifteen.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:45440-45564 testimony first hand
430
Whitley Strieber did not remember the memory of being taken from the train when Budd Hopkins asked him if he remembered anything in the past.
“When Budd Hopkins asked me if I remembered anything in the past, I did mention a few odd incidents. The memory of being taken from the train was not among them.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:456-611 testimony first hand
431
Whitley Strieber remembered something of awesome beauty in the sky during the September 1967 Austin missing-time experience, which he later told friends must have been the Perseid meteor shower, though it was not active at that time.
“I remembered something of awesome beauty taking place in the sky, which I later told friends must have been a display of the Perseid meteor shower, which was not active then but had been early in August.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:45676-45872 testimony first hand
432
After the September 1967 missing-time experience, Whitley Strieber drove to the Nighthawk restaurant on Guadalupe Street in Austin and had a large breakfast.
“I drove to an all-night restaurant called the Nighthawk on Guadalupe Street and had a huge breakfast of toast, eggs, bacon, cereal, coffee, and at least six glasses of orange juice.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:45880-46055 testimony first hand
433
Jim Kunetka, who is good at coining words, invented the term "larconic trance" to describe Whitley Strieber's twenty-four-hour missing-time state after Strieber described it to him.
“When I described this singular twenty-four hours to Jim Kunetka, who is good at coining words, he invented a name for my state. He called it a "larconic trance."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:46062-46215 testimony first hand
434
Some weeks after the September 1967 Austin missing-time experience, Whitley Strieber was lying in bed at his grandmother's house in San Antonio reading Time magazine when he had a frightening experience that transported him mentally back to the Austin apartment parking lot.
“I was lying in bed at my grandmother's house to San Antonio, reading *Time* magazine... I was suddenly transported back in time and back to Austin a few weeks earlier.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:46464-46587 testimony first hand
435
In the frightening bed vision, Whitley Strieber recalled a being with a narrow face and dark, slanted eyes approaching his car and pressing its face to the window, speaking to him in a high, squeaky voice.
“Something approached the tar. I was frightened to see, peering in the window with its face pressed almost to the glass, what seemed almost to be a demon with a narrow face and dark, slanted eyes. It spoke to me its a high, squeaky voice”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:47239-47470 testimony first hand
436
During the vision, Whitley Strieber experienced himself flopping on the bed like a fish while simultaneously feeling he was struggling in a car, but afterward found that he had not moved and the magazine was still propped in his lap, with his grandmother visible reading quietly across the hall.
“I lay on the bed, flopping like a fish. Then it ended. Contrary to my impression, I did not move an inch. The magazine was still propped up in my lap. I could see my grandmother in her bed in the room across the hall, reading quietly.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:47848-48074 observation first hand
437
Whitley Strieber believes the bed vision was a nightmare memory of an attempt he made to escape whatever unearthly thing happened to him in his Austin apartment.
“I believe now that this was a nightmare memory of an attempt I made to escape whatever unearthly thing happened to use in my apartment in Austin.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:48207-48345 opinion first hand
438
Whitley Strieber obtained a loan from the Minnie Stevens Piper Foundation in San Antonio to study film at the London School of Film Technique.
“I obtained a loan from the Minnie Stevens Piper Foundation in San Antonio to study film at the London School of Film Technique.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:49024-49141 administrative first hand
439
Whitley Strieber earned money translating Seneca's Thyestes into English and converting the translation into a film script for the University of Texas Department of Radio, Television and Film.
“I earned some money translating Seneca's *Thyestes* into English and converting the translation into a film script for the U.T. Department of Radio, Television and Film.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:49152-49316 administrative first hand
440
By January 1968, Whitley Strieber had saved enough money and left for London.
“By January 1968 I had saved enough money and I left for London.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:49353-49409 administrative first hand
441
For years, Whitley Strieber explained his sudden departure from Texas by saying he could not stand the place after the 1966 University of Texas tower shooting by Charles Whitman, but the true reason was a secret terror that drove him away.
“For years I have explained my sudden departure by saying that I couldn't stand the place after the Charles Whitman sniper incident. The truth was, I could have remained after that incident. It was my secret terror that drove me away.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:49516-49744 testimony first hand
442
Whitley Strieber spent time in film-history classes at the London School of Film Technique and at the National Film Theatre in London watching old movies.
“I spent a great deal of time in film-history classes watching old movies. My nights were occupied at the National Film Theatre watching more old movies.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:49852-49997 administrative first hand
443
In July 1968, while at a friend's flat in King's Road, Chelsea, Whitley Strieber experienced a period of complete perceptual chaos followed by a sensation of looking down into chimney pots, then blackness, waking the next morning at his own place with no memory of returning.
“I was at a friend's flat in the King's Road, Chelsea. For years I have described it as a "raid" from which I escaped by "crossing the roofs." What I actually remember is a period of complete perceptual chaos, followed by the confusing sensation of looking down into the chimney pots of the buildings. Then there was blackness. I woke up the next morning in my own place with no idea of how I got there.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:50165-50561 testimony first hand
444
Whitley Strieber obtained a book by George Gamow about relativity while at home.
“At home I got hold of a book by George Gamow about relativity.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:5043-5094 testimony first hand
445
One of the people present in the King's Road flat warned Whitley Strieber against leaving London for the Continent, saying he would "never come back," and later could not explain why he had acted that way, though he recalled a feeling of dread associated with the journey.
“One of the people who had been present in the flat warned me against going, saying that I would "never come back."... Recently I looked him up and asked him about this incident. He couldn't think why he had acted as he did, although he remembered a feeling of dread being associated with my journey.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:50863-51215 testimony second hand
446
Whitley Strieber travelled by second-class train to Italy, meeting a young woman on the train with whom he began travelling.
“I took the train to Italy, second class. On the train I met a young woman and we began to travel together.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:51316-51413 testimony first hand
447
Whitley Strieber and the young woman went to Rome, spending a few days in Florence on the way.
“I recall that we went to Rome, but that we spent a few days in Florence on the way.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:51575-51654 testimony first hand
448
For eighteen years, Whitley Strieber told the story that he had stayed in Florence for six weeks, but when he returned there in the summer of 1984 to promote the Mondadori Italian edition of Warday, he realised he had almost no memories of the place.
“For eighteen years I told the story that I stayed in Florence for six weeks. But when I went there in the summer of 1984 to promote Mondadori's Malian edition of *Warday*, I realized that I had almost no memories of the place.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:51659-51879 testimony first hand
449
Whitley Strieber left the young woman in Rome and travelled by train with no ticket, travelling almost at random.
“For some reason, I left the young woman in Rome and dashed off on the train with no ticket, traveling almost at random.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:51929-52041 testimony first hand
450
Whitley Strieber ended up in Strasbourg, France, where he saw the cathedral, then rushed to the station and caught another train.
“I ended up in Strasbourg, where I saw the cathedral, then suddenly rushed to the station and grabbed another train, a local, that crept across France, ending in Port Bou on the Spanish border.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:52050-52235 testimony first hand
451
Whitley Strieber took a local train ending in Port Bou on the Spanish border, then took a Spanish train to Barcelona.
“a local, that crept across France, ending in Port Bou on the Spanish border. There I took a Spanish train to Barcelona.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:52166-52275 testimony first hand
452
Being broke, Whitley Strieber holed up in a back room in a hotel on the Ramblas in Barcelona, experiencing nights of terror and living like a fugitive.
“I was broke, so I holed up in a back room in a hotel on the Ramblas. I can remember nights of terror, being afraid to put out the light, wanting to keep the window and the door locked, living like a fugitive, never wanting to be alone, haunting the Ramblers, grateful for the unceasing crowds.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:52286-52572 testimony first hand
453
Whitley Strieber lost weeks of memory after Barcelona, retaining only fragments including being on an airplane with someone calling himself a coach, taking a course at an ancient university, and seeing small adobe huts.
“The rest of the memory is a jumbled mess. I am just not certain what happened, except that I lost weeks of time. I remember something about being on a noisy, smelly airplane with someone who called himself a coach, and something about taking a course at an ancient university. I also recall seeing little adobe huts”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:52580-52891 testimony first hand
454
Whitley Strieber returned to London weeks later than planned with no explanation for the missing weeks, finding himself outside a hotel at about six in the morning with no memory of how he got back.
“I returned to London in an odd way, weeks later than I had planned, with no way to explain those weeks. I cannot say how I got back. What I do know is that I found myself outside a hotel at about six in the morning.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:52966-53173 testimony first hand
455
On returning to his London lodgings, Whitley Strieber found his room had been let to another student and his belongings stored in a trunk in the basement, because he had disappeared much longer than the two weeks he had said he would be gone.
“After lunch I went to my lodgings and found that my room had been let and my belongings stored in a trunk in the basement... They told me that I had said I would be gone for no more than two weeks and had disappeared for much longer.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:53234-53492 testimony first hand
456
Whitley Strieber found a flat on Westmoreland Terrace in Pimlico, where he lived until December 1968.
“then found a fiat on Westmoreland terrace in Pimlico, where I lived until December 1968.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:53678-53761 administrative first hand
457
Whitley Strieber's mother told him "We are Catholic. Catholics are absolutist" when he brought up Albert Einstein with her.
“But when I brought up Einstein with my mother, she said, "We are Catholic. Catholics are absolutist."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:5378-5467 testimony first hand
458
From 1970 until the spring of 1977, Whitley Strieber and his wife lived in a two-room flat on the top floor of an old building on West Fifty-fifth Street in Manhattan.
“From 1970 until then, my wife and I live in a two-room fiat on the top floor of an old building on West Fifty-fifth Street in Manhattan.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:54058-54184 administrative first hand
459
In April 1977, during the April 1977 stereo voice incident, Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber were sitting together in their living room when somebody suddenly began speaking through the stereo after it had finished playing a record.
“One evening in April 1977, something so bizarre happened that I still cannot understand why we didn't make more of it. With both of us sitting together in our living room, somebody suddenly started speaking through the stereo, which had just finished playing a record.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:54305-54566 testimony first hand
460
During the April 1977 stereo voice incident, the voice held a brief conversation with Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber, and the voice was entirely clear, unlike garbled transmissions from a passing taxi radio or a ham operator.
“We were astonished, naturally, when the voice held a brief conversation with us. The voice was entirely clear, not like the sort of garbled message sometimes picked up from a passing taxi's radio or a ham operator.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:54574-54780 testimony first hand
461
Whitley Strieber does not remember the conversation from the April 1977 stereo voice incident except the last words, "I know something else about you."
“I do not remember the conversation, except the last words: "I know something else about you."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:54848-54936 testimony first hand
462
After the April 1977 stereo voice incident, Whitley Strieber called the Federal Communications Commission, and a representative told him that ham radios, taxis, and police radios sometimes interrupt stereos but that a two-way conversation was impossible.
“I called the Federal Communications Commission. A man explained to me what I already knew, that ham radios and taxis and police radios sometimes interrupt stereos. But a conversation, he asserted, was impossible.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:55024-55225 testimony second hand
463
The stereo involved in the April 1977 stereo voice incident was a KLH model that had neither a microphone nor a cassette deck, and Whitley Strieber had owned it for about four or five years at the time.
“Our stereo had neither a microphone nor a cassette deck. It was a KLH, a good and relatively inexpensive model readily available in the midseventies. At the time, I'd had it for about four or five years.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:55237-55434 testimony first hand
464
A few weeks after the April 1977 stereo voice incident, Whitley Strieber became possessed of an overwhelming desire to move, and Anne Strieber agreed.
“A few weeks later I became possessed of an overwhelming desire to move. Anne agreed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:55442-55519 testimony first hand
465
By the end of May 1977, Whitley Strieber and his wife were living on West Seventy-sixth Street in Manhattan on the top two floors of a brownstone, having moved partly because he had received a raise while working in the advertising industry.
“We needed more space, and I'd gotten a nice raise (I was then working in the advertising industry). We could afford a move. By the end of May we .were living on West Seventy-sixth Street on the top two flours of a brownstone.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:55553-55767 administrative first hand
466
In June 1978, during the June 1978 menacing phone call and roof visitor incident, something terrible happened in the middle of the night at the West Seventy-sixth Street residence.
“All went well there until the next year. In June 1978 something terrible happened in the middle of the night.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:55779-55882 testimony first hand
467
Whitley Strieber has variously remembered the June 1978 incident as a phone call followed by a menacing visit, and as a series of menacing phone calls.
“I have variously thought of it as a phone call followed by a menacing visit, and as a series of menacing phone calls.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:55890-56001 testimony first hand
468
During the June 1978 incident, Whitley Strieber called the police, who checked the roof and found nothing, while he recalled seeing somebody standing on the roof garden outside the bedroom window.
“I do know that I called the police, and they came up and checked out the roof, finding nothing. I remember only looking out our, bedroom window onto the roof garden and seeing somebody standing there.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:56008-56202 testimony first hand
469
After the June 1978 incident, Whitley Strieber almost immediately decided to move to Connecticut, renting a house in Cos Cob beginning in July 1978.
“I almost immediately decided to move to Connecticut. We rented a house in Cos Cob, the term to begin in July 1978.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:56378-56487 administrative first hand
470
Because Anne Strieber was pregnant, the Striebers wanted to get out of their walk-up apartment when moving to Cos Cob, Connecticut.
“Because Anne was pregnant, we wanted to get out of our walk-up.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:56849-56909 testimony first hand
471
Whitley Strieber's mother was a Catholic intellectual during the 1950s.
“she was a Catholic intellectual in the heady days of the fifties”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:5691-5748 testimony first hand
472
In early 1979, during the Early 1979 Cos Cob intrusion and screaming incident, Whitley Strieber was awakened by the bizarre impression that people were pouring in through the windows of the isolated Cos Cob house, and he remembers trying to reach his new baby.
“In early 1979 I was awakened by the bizarre impression that there were people pouring in through the windows of our rather isolated house. I was terrified. We had a new baby. I remember trying to get to him and that is all I remember.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:57109-57334 testimony first hand
473
A few nights after the intrusion impression, the Striebers were awakened by terrible screams filling the Cos Cob neighbourhood, and although they called the police, the police never came and no neighbours mentioned the shrieking.
“A few nights later we were awakened by the neighborhood filling with terrible screams. Even though we called the police, they never came, and nothing was ever said by neighbors about the shrieking.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:57344-57531 testimony first hand
474
Within weeks of the screaming incident, the Striebers left Cos Cob, Connecticut, saying they were tired of the country and wanted to return to city living.
“Within weeks we had left Cos Cob because we were "tired of the country" and wanted to get back to city living.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:57542-57645 testimony first hand
475
In August 1986, during the August 1986 Provincetown screaming incident, Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber, while staying with friends in Provincetown, Massachusetts, were awakened in the middle of the night by bloodcurdling shrieks that seemed to come from above the house.
“An interesting further occurrence of screaming took place in August 1986 in Provincetown, Massachusetts. We were staying with friends. In the middle of the night we were awakened by truly bloodcurdling shrieks coming, it seemed, from above the house.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:57654-57898 testimony first hand
476
Following the August 1986 Provincetown screaming incident, neither the Striebers' friends nor anyone else they spoke to the next day remembered anything unusual, except one person about a mile away who said he had also been awakened by screaming and who has had a visitor experience of his own.
“Neither our friends nor anybody we spoke to the next day had any memory of anything unusual happening that night-except for one person. When I asked him if he'd slept well, he said that he'd been awakened by screaming. His house was about a mile from ours. He, also, has had a visitor experience in his past.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:57906-58209 testimony second hand
477
In January 1980, the Striebers took an apartment on the top floor of a high-rise on East Seventy-fifth Street in Manhattan.
“In January 1980 we took an apartment on the top floor of a high rise on East Seventy-fifth Street.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:58216-58307 administrative first hand
478
In September 1980, during the September 1980 East Seventy-fifth Street multiple-being visitation and seltzer explosion, Whitley Strieber saw a strange light streak down the night sky faster than an airplane, leaving him deeply and inexplicably moved with an obscure foreboding.
“This episode began when I saw a strange light streak down the night sky. It moved faster than an airplane and left me with the feeling that it had something to do with me. I was deeply and inexplicably moved, and left with an obscure foreboding.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:58359-58593 observation first hand
479
During the September 1980 incident, the Striebers were awakened by their son crying in terror, and Whitley Strieber saw the impression of a small, dark figure dashing toward the sliding doors leading to their thirty-third-floor balcony.
“In the middle of the night we were awakened by our son's crying. He was desperate, almost wild with terror. I rushed into the living room, heading for his bedroom. I recall the impression of a small, dark figure dashing toward the sliding doors that led to our thirty-third-floor balcony.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:58605-58885 testimony first hand
480
Whitley Strieber's catechism class was asked to write essays proving the existence of God, and his essay was declared to be a demonic inspiration by the teacher.
“My catechism class was asked to write essays proving the existence of God. Mine, an equation with an intentionally tautological argument, was declared to be a demonic inspiration.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:5861-6028 testimony first hand
481
During the September 1980 incident, there was a terrific explosion and beads of glass burst from the pantry as Whitley Strieber ran to reach his terrified baby.
“Then there was a terrific explosion and beads of glass burst out of the pantry. I kept running for my terrified baby. reaching his crib after what seemed an eternity.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:58894-59051 observation first hand
482
After the September 1980 incident, Whitley Strieber found that a siphon of seltzer had exploded so violently that the glass was reduced to dust, with no trace of the water that had been inside.
“A siphon of seltzer had exploded, so violently that the glass was reduced to ads, to dust. There wasn't a trace of the water that had been inside.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:59210-59349 observation first hand
483
By January 1981, the Striebers had closed on a co-op and moved to their apartment in Greenwich Village, Manhattan.
“In November we closed on a co-op and by January 1981 had moved again, this time to our present apartment in the Village.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:59433-59545 administrative first hand
484
Whitley Strieber has repeatedly told a story attributing his family's series of moves (from the Seventy-sixth Street walk-up to Cos Cob, to the East Seventy-fifth Street high-rise, and finally to Greenwich Village) to being menaced by an old college acquaintance, identified by voice on tape with the help of a detective who hypnotised him.
“A dozen times I have told a story of being menaced by an old college acquaintance, whose terrifying appearances and phone calls had driven us from our Seventy-sixth Street walk-up to Cos Cob, then from there to the East Seventy-fifth Street high-rise. and finally to the Village. A part of this myth is the kindly detective who hypnotized me and enabled me to identify this individual by listening to his voice on a tape.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:59554-59970 testimony first hand
485
Whitley Strieber's mother said "To think that children might be inspired by the devil is itself demonic inspiration" when confronted by the catechism teacher about his essay.
“When confronted with this by the teacher, my mother said, "To think that children might be inspired by the devil is itself demonic inspiration."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:6041-6172 testimony first hand
486
The 1982 white thing incidents in the Greenwich Village apartment began with Anne Strieber, who woke up screaming one night and reported that something had poked her in the stomach.
“It took place in the apartment and began with the most down-to-earth member of our family. Anne. One night she woke up screaming and reported that something had poked her in the stomach.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:60851-61029 testimony second hand
487
Anne Strieber saw the being that poked her; it was translucent white and about one metre tall.
“She had seen it. too: It was translucent white and about three feet tall.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:61038-61106 testimony second hand
488
During the 1982 white thing incidents, Whitley Strieber was struck on the arm while reading and saw a small, pale shape withdrawing into the hall of the apartment.
“Suddenly I was struck on the arm. As I turned I saw a small, pale shape withdrawing into the hall.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:61354-61447 testimony first hand
489
The next morning after being struck on the arm, Whitley Strieber noticed a distinct bruise on his arm.
“The next morning I noticed a distinct bruise on my arm, but assumed that I must have banged into a table or something.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:61713-61821 observation first hand
490
A few nights after the earlier events, the son of Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber began screaming, saying that a little white thing had come to his bed and poked him.
“He said that "a little white thing" had come up to his bed "and poked me and poked me."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:61969-62052 testimony second hand
491
Neither Anne Strieber nor her son showed any physical evidence of injury from the white thing incidents.
“Neither Anne nor our son showed any physical evidence of injury.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:62058-62115 observation first hand
492
During the white thing incidents, the family's babysitter reported that a child in a white sheet had startled her by peering into the kitchen from the fire escape while she was cooking dinner.
“She said that she'd been cooking her dinner when a child in a white sheet had startled her by peering into the kitchen from the fire escape.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:62491-62624 hearsay third hand
493
Whitley Strieber does not recall thinking or talking about extraterrestrials as a child in 1957.
“I do not recall thinking or talking at all about extraterrestrials.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:6262-6311 testimony first hand
494
Whitley Strieber and his family were unable to locate the babysitter who reported the white-sheeted child, and could not remember her name.
“We have tried to find this sitter, but it's been years and we know that she did not remain in the area past that semester. We cannot remember her name.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:62674-62820 testimony first hand
495
When Whitley Strieber asked a childhood friend what his strangest memory was, the friend's answer, unprompted by any exposure to Strieber's UFO material, involved Strieber.
“when I recently asked a friend of those days what was the strangest experience he could remember, I was surprised to find that his answer involved me. At the time I asked him the question, he had not in any way been exposed to this material.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:6339-6571 testimony first hand
496
In late March 1983, Whitley Strieber walked out of his apartment for a few minutes and found himself returning three hours later with no memory of what had happened during that time.
“In late March 1983 something happened. I walked out to get a breath of air for a few minutes and found myself returning three hours later.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:63640-63772 testimony first hand
497
Whitley Strieber initially invented a fantasy explanation that he had imagined himself back in old New York during the missing three hours in late March 1983, but later realized this story was not true.
“the experience was so inexplicable to me that I invented an elaborate fantasy of having imagined myself back in old New York for the missing hours. I have told many friends this lovely story. I realized as I thought back that it didn't happen.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:63832-64068 testimony first hand
498
A childhood friend of Whitley Strieber recalled that at age thirteen Strieber announced that "spacemen" had taught him how to build an antigravity machine, which he was constructing in his bedroom.
“When we were thirteen I apparently announced to him that "spacemen" had taught me how to build an antigravity machine, which I was constructing in my bedroom.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:6614-6765 hearsay second hand
499
Whitley Strieber built the antigravity machine in the summer of 1958.
“This was in the summer of 1958.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:6774-6800 testimony first hand
500
The record of Whitley Strieber's hypnosis session names the presiding psychiatrist as Donald Vein, MD.
“PSYCHIATRIST: *Donald Vein, MD*”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:68525-68538 administrative second hand
501
Whitley Strieber's antigravity machine was an assembly of electromagnets taken from old motors, based on a principle of counterrotation.
“There was no magic to the thing; it was only an assembly of electromagnets taken from old motors. The supposed antigravity effect was based on a principle of counterrotation.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:6891-7049 testimony first hand
502
Whitley Strieber states there was confirmation from another witness that one of his memories was indeed of an extremely strange event.
“Despite this, there was confirmation from another witness that one of my memories was indeed of an extremely strange event.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:69904-70021 testimony first hand
503
During the October or November 1984 fogbank and dirt road missing time incident, Whitley Strieber was driving back to his house from the grocery store when he saw a fogbank on a clear fall day.
“At this session, Don and I examined an incident that took place in the country on an October or November afternoon in 1984. I was driving back to the house from the grocery store when I suddenly saw a fogbank. It was a clear fall day, the air dry.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:70029-70272 testimony first hand
504
During the October or November 1984 incident, Whitley Strieber drove off the highway onto a dirt road to get a better look at the fogbank he had seen.
“I got curious about the fogbank and drove off the highway onto a dirt road to try and get a better look at it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:70277-70384 testimony first hand
505
During the October or November 1984 incident, Whitley Strieber next recalled being in the fog in his car with two people in dark blue uniforms leaning in the windows, before finding himself back on the highway returning home.
“The next thing I recall, I was in the fog in my car and two people in dark blue uniforms were leaning in the windows. Then I was back on the highway, returning home.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:70388-70548 testimony first hand
506
When Whitley Strieber plugged in the antigravity machine, it buzzed loudly, the electromagnet whirled madly, the house lights pulsated, and there were showers of sparks before the machine destroyed itself.
“When I plugged my assemblage in, there was a great buzzing, the electromagnet to the core of the thing whirled madly. and the lights in the house began to pulsate. The whole thing whined and fluttered. There were showers of sparks.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:7067-7291 testimony first hand
507
Whitley Strieber later went back to the exact spot on the highway where he had turned off in 1984 and found that the dirt road he remembered no longer existed, with no sign it had ever been there.
“I went to the exact spot on the highway where I had turned off... The dirt road I had seen there didn't exist anymore, and there was no sign of a road ever having been there.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:70676-70889 observation first hand
508
Budd Hopkins wanted Whitley Strieber to cover the October or November 1984 fogbank incident first in hypnosis, because of its similarity to a common abduction scenario involving removal of the subject from a moving car.
“Budd Hopkins had wanted me to cover this incident first, before any further hypnosis, because of its similarity to one of the most common abduction scenarios. the removal of' the subject from a moving car.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:70955-71156 testimony second hand
509
Whitley Strieber states that confusion of place, such as roads, beaches, or structures that do not exist, is a common feature reported among abductees.
“He did not tell me what I have subsequently discovered, that confusion of place is common among abductees. There are stories of roads that don't exist. beaches that aren't there, structures that later prove never to have been built.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:71161-71388 opinion first hand
510
At the March 10, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber recalled that during the fogbank incident he had been listening to the WAMC radio station, which was playing Don Giovanni.
“Listening to WAMC' ... "It's *Don Giovanni*."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:72238-72290 testimony first hand
511
During the March 10, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber recalled seeing a white pickup truck with a black windshield approaching him on the highway just before becoming stupefied and finding himself in a long gray room with a being standing in front of him.
“I was driving my car, all of a sudden there was this white pickup coming toward me. Funny white pickup with a black windshield. And the next thing I know, I'm just stupefied... I'm sitting there in a long room. And there's this — being — standing in front of me. A long gray room.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:73294-73647 testimony first hand
512
During the March 10, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber recalled a being with great big black eyes staring at him while he sat on the floor.
“And somewhere there's someone watching me with great big eyes. Big black eyes. Just watching me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:74428-74521 testimony first hand
513
During the March 10, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber recalled seeing a row of little people standing quietly, and one being who moved around a lot separate from the others.
“there's a whole row of people — little people — standing quietly over there on a little — they're a little higher than I am... there's somebody who's moved around a lot.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:75234-75355 testimony first hand
514
After Whitley Strieber pulled the plug on the antigravity machine, he pretended ignorance to his parents rather than explain what had happened.
“Finally I managed to pull the plug. Rather than tell my parents what had happened. I rushed downstairs and pretended ignorance.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:7548-7665 testimony first hand
515
During the March 10, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber recalled that one being, unlike the others who were all very small, was tall, thin, and gangly, and sat down in front of him staring at him.
“There's one of them now sitting down in front of me staring right at me, and she's completely different from the others. The others are all very small people. This one is tall and thin. And she's sitting down. She's all gangly.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:75729-75949 testimony first hand
516
During the March 10, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber described the tall being as having great big black eyes, a brown coloured face, a tiny mouth, no antennae, no hair (bald), no visible ears, no eyebrows, and a small two-holed nose.
“Great big black eyes. She's sort of brown She has a little, tiny mouth... She have antennae". "No." "She have hair?" "No, she's bald." "She have ears?" "I don't see any." "Eyebrows?" "No." "Does she have a nose?" "A little bitty tiny sort of two-holed nose."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:76720-76994 testimony first hand
517
Whitley Strieber's childhood friend reported that Strieber called him in great anxiety saying he was afraid the spacemen were mad because he had disturbed their power field.
“The friend reports that I called him m great anxiety and said that I was afraid that the spacemen were mad because I had disturbed their power field.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:7710-7853 hearsay second hand
518
During the March 10, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber recalled that the tall being put a hand under his shirt and sweater and pressed it against the side of his chest, which felt soft and did not feel bad.
“she sat there for a long time, then put a hand out, put it under my shirt and under my sweater and under me and put it right up against my chest, on the side of my chest. And it felt sort of soft, and it's-it doesn't feel bad to be touched like that by that thing.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:77458-77716 testimony first hand
519
During the March 10, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber recalled a male being telling him to get out, and a female being on the other side saying "we don't want you here."
“He says to me, 'Get out of here.' Then this lady on the other side says, 'We don't want you here.'”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:78571-78663 testimony first hand
520
Whitley Strieber has subsequently discovered that there is a mythology of flying saucer technology that revolves around the concept of counterrotating magnets.
“I have subsequently discovered that there is a whole mythology of flying saucer technology, and a lot of it revolves around the concept of counterrotating magnets.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:7861-8016 testimony first hand
521
An abductee known to another abductee that Whitley Strieber has met was allegedly given detailed instructions during a 1950s abduction experience for building a motor with counterrotating magnets, and was told he would not remember it until 1985.
“He knows a man, another victim, who was given detailed instructions about how to build a motor of this sort. The man was given the instructions during an abduction experience during the fifties, and claims that he was told that he wouldn't remember a thing until 1985, when he suddenly found his mind full of richly detailed plans.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:8123-8448 hearsay second hand
522
During the March 14, 1986 hypnosis session (grandmother's house and fireball recall), Donald Fein remained neutral throughout the session.
“I was concerned about complying not so much with Don's wishes, since he remains neutral”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:83597-83677 observation first hand
523
The trance during the March 14, 1986 hypnosis session was deepened by the suggestion that Whitley Strieber descend two flights of stairs of twenty steps each.
“The trance, which was deepened by the added suggestion that I descend two flights of stairs of twenty steps each, was profound.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:83959-84077 observation first hand
524
During the March 14, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber and Donald Fein first addressed the 1967 grandmother's house silver nail incident.
“We went first to the incident at my grandmother's house in 1967.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:84431-84490 administrative first hand
525
During the 1967 grandmother's house silver nail incident, Whitley Strieber recalled a fierce, fly-like face appearing beside his bed that struck him on the side of the head with a large, flat-headed silver nail.
“All of a sudden it puts something on my head like a railroad spike. A silver nail. A big, flat-Beaded silver nail and it hits me right in the side of the head with it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:84858-85022 testimony first hand
526
During the 1967 grandmother's house silver nail incident, Whitley Strieber recalled feeling as though he became heavy, big, and was walking through the house like a ghost, before finding himself back in bed as though nothing had happened.
“I have — I'm heavy and big. I get up out of the bed, I feel totally different. I feel like I'm moving like I'm walking through the house, like I'm a ghost in the house.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:85059-85221 testimony first hand
527
During the 1967 grandmother's house silver nail incident, Whitley Strieber described the figure at his bedside as having a very fierce, strange face like a giant fly.
“There's like this very fierce face up beside the bed. A very fierce strange face like a giant fly.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:85590-85684 testimony first hand
528
During the 1967 grandmother's house silver nail incident, after the encounter Whitley Strieber found himself back in bed reading the same magazine on the same page, with an advertisement for a Mustang car resembling his own but coloured blue.
“there I was back in the bed reading the magazine, still on the same page. An ad for a Mustang very much like my Mustang, only it's blue.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:86687-86818 testimony first hand
529
Whitley Strieber considers that the idea that counterrotating magnets would produce unusual energies flies in the face of modern magnetic theory.
“the idea that counterrotating magnets of any kind would produce any unusual energies at all flies in the face of modern magnetic theory.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:8674-8803 opinion first hand
530
During the March 14, 1986 hypnosis session, Donald Fein probably referred to the October 4, 1985 abduction experience when asking whether Whitley Strieber had a prior experience with the same object, though Strieber did not consciously connect the question to that event.
“You had the experience before with that object?" (He probably referred to the October 4 incident, but that was not one that came into my mind.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:86827-86965 observation first hand
531
During the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, Whitley Strieber recalled that his sister Patricia thought the object crossing the lot was a fireball while he thought it was a motorcycle.
“My sister thought it was a fireball. I thought it was a motorcycle.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:87060-87116 testimony first hand
532
During the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, Whitley Strieber, Patricia Strieber, Roxy Strieber, and Angie Strieber were present in the vacant lot when the object appeared.
“Patricia and Roxy and Angie and that was all.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:87541-87582 testimony first hand
533
During the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, Whitley Strieber recalled the being had a silver object and real long arms, and knocked down the tent that had been set up in the lot.
“And it had a silver thing, and it had real long arms... It knocked down the tent and they didn't do anything, they just stayed inside it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:87587-87743 testimony first hand
534
During the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, Whitley Strieber recalled the being placing its hand on his shoulder and being unable to run away from it.
“I can feel its hand on my shoulder. I don't want it to have its hand on my shoulder, it's really terrible... I can't run away from it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:87754-87901 testimony first hand
535
The other abductee claimed that when he built the antigravity device, all the metal objects in his barn were pulled toward it, he was knocked out by a flying automobile engine, and the barn burned to the ground the next day in an unexplained fire.
“But he claims that when he built this device, all the metal objects in his barn were instantly pulled toward it and he was knocked out by a flying automobile engine The next day the barn burned to the ground in an unexplained fire.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:8812-9038 hearsay second hand
536
During the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, Whitley Strieber was twelve years old.
“"How old are you?" "Twelve."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:88939-88959 testimony first hand
537
During the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, the family was inside watching The Ed Sullivan Show while the mother mentioned they might be able to see Senor Wences if they stayed inside.
“Mom and Dad are inside watching TV. They're watching The Ed Sullivan Show. And Momma says we'll be able to see Senor Wences if we stay inside.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:89229-89363 testimony first hand
538
During the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, Patricia Strieber told their mother that she had seen a fireball in the lot rather than mentioning that the tent had collapsed.
“Patricia tells Momma she saw a fireball... Patricia tells Momma there was a fireball in the lot is why we came in.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:89451-89519 testimony first hand
539
After the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, the family slept out on the screened-in porch and their father sang them a song.
“And that night we slept out on the screened-in porch. Daddy came out and sang us a song.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:89676-89759 testimony first hand
540
During the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, Whitley Strieber described the being as looking like a large praying mantis with big black eyes, though larger than a normal praying mantis and with dark eyes rather than the white eyes of an actual praying mantis.
“A praying mantis is what it looks like. Only it's so big... They've got white eyes. This has got dark, black eyes.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:90292-90359 testimony first hand
541
During the 1957 vacant lot fireball and praying mantis being incident, Whitley Strieber recalled the being working something into his hair without him feeling anything, and that this calmed him rather than frightening him.
“It worked something into my hair... I didn't feel anything... I wasn't scared while it was working that thing up in my hair.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:91175-91311 testimony first hand
542
At age thirty-six, Whitley Strieber recalled working with young people at the Gurdjieff Foundation while writing his new book, The Hunger.
“I've started working with the young people at the Foundation... I'm working very hard on my new book. (The Hunger.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:91762-91835 testimony first hand
543
At the time of the recollected meteor sighting, Jim Landis was on sabbatical, leaving Whitley Strieber working mostly alone on his book.
“Jim Landis is on sabbatical, so I'm just working pretty much alone.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:92261-92322 testimony first hand
544
Whitley Strieber recalled seeing a meteor descend from the sky one evening while looking out over the city from his apartment, at a time when he believed he was reaching a new state of consciousness through his Gurdjieff Foundation work.
“I saw this meteor. Like you couldn't quite really see it. It came down out of the sky, very tiny, like a spark. And I thought, Oh, that's not a plane. It's not anything. And I felt awed. Like it was someone coming to see me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:92953-93176 testimony first hand
545
After seeing the meteor, Whitley Strieber told Anne Strieber about it, and she asked who it might be.
“I told Anne about it. She said, 'Who would it be?' I said I didn't have any idea.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:93180-93256 testimony first hand
546
Whitley Strieber recalled seeing six figures standing at the end of the bed looking at him and Anne Strieber, who was asleep beside him.
“I look up from my book and there are six figures standing at the end of the bed looking right at both of us. She's turned over and she's asleep.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:93375-93512 testimony first hand
547
Whitley Strieber recalled that the six figures made no sound and came out of the living room.
“They made no sound. They came out of the living room.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:93649-93697 testimony first hand
548
Whitley Strieber recalled that Nelson, the family dog, remained asleep under the bed during the visitation despite Strieber calling out to him.
“Nelson's sleeping under the bed. (Nelson was the family dog.) 'Nelson! Nelson!' Nelson's just sleeping under the bed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:93724-93839 testimony first hand
549
Whitley Strieber recalled that during the visitation he felt unable to get up, felt a weight on him, and found he could not wake Anne Strieber.
“I feel like I've just gotten some kind of weight on me. I want to get up... I can't make her wake up.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:93844-93970 testimony first hand
550
Whitley Strieber did not remember building his own antigravity machine himself, but was told about it by the friend who remembered.
“Recall that I did not even remember my antigravity machine myself, but rather was told about it by a friend who remembered.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:9410-9522 testimony first hand
551
Whitley Strieber recalled that when he stopped looking directly at the figures and looked again, they had moved closer, appearing to move only when not being watched.
“And it's changed. Now they're around both sides of the bed, about halfway up, like when you stop looking at them they start moving.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:94478-94603 testimony first hand
552
Whitley Strieber recalled that the figures were wearing uniforms.
“They're wearing uniforms.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:94751-94767 testimony first hand
553
During the recollected visitation, Whitley Strieber heard two distinct voices, one in a basso profundo register saying he was not trying to wake Anne Strieber up, and a lighter voice saying the figures were all right and that they had to do that.
“Voice 1 [Basso profundo]: 'You're not trying to wake her up.'... Voice 2 [Light]: 'They're all right.'... 'They have to do that.'”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:95242-95390 testimony first hand
554
Whitley Strieber recalled a total of eight figures positioned around the bed, three beside him, four to five at the foot of the bed, and three on the other side.
“They're standing one two three four five. (Total eight.) Three up right beside my bed, four five at the foot of the bed. One two three on the other side of the bed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:95772-95934 testimony first hand
555
During the recollected visitation, a praying-mantis-like being was seen standing in the middle of the living room near the windows.
“that praying mantis is standing right in the middle of the living room. Right near the windows.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:96323-96410 testimony first hand
556
During the recollected visitation, Anne Strieber told Whitley Strieber that a bottle of seltzer had blown up in the kitchen, and there was glass on the floor.
“'A bottle of seltzer blew up.'... 'Don't get in the glass. There's glass all over the floor.'”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:97093-97198 testimony first hand
557
The day after Whitley Strieber built his antigravity device, he went with his grandmother to her country home, even though the occasion was one of her afternoon card parties.
“The day after I built my device. I do remember being seized with a fierce urge to get away from the house. I went to my grandmother's country home with her, even though the occasion was one of her afternoon card parties.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:9724-9936 testimony first hand
558
Whitley Strieber recalled that the stocky, little figures he saw appeared to be staring at him with mouths open, but their faces did not move.
“They look like they're staring at me with their mouths opened. Only their faces do not move.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:97498-97585 testimony first hand
559
Whitley Strieber distinguished the stocky, little figures wearing dark blue uniforms from the thin, taller figure he saw elsewhere, describing the stocky figures as grayish, mushroom-coloured, smelling like a burned match head, with expressionless faces, two big round eyes, a round mouth, and apparently no noses.
“No, no, the other one is thin and bigger. They're stocky and little... They're wearing blue uniforms. Dark blue uniforms... Sort of mushroomy-gray. Smell funny too. Like a burned match head... Two big round eyes and a round mouth — and I don't think they even have noses.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:97661-98003 testimony first hand
560
After the March 14, 1986 hypnosis session, Whitley Strieber telephoned his sister the next afternoon and asked her what the strangest thing was that she remembered ever happening.
“I had been thinking about calling her. I did so the next afternoon, and asked her our now-familiar question: "What is the strangest thing you remember ever happening?"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:98693-98849 testimony first hand
561
Whitley Strieber's sister told him that their mother had said the fireball was nothing to worry about.
“'Mother said it was nothing to worry about, it was just a fireball.'”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:99291-99348 testimony second hand
562
Whitley Strieber stated that he still does not remember seeing the fireball, and that all his life he had a free-floating memory of a skeleton riding a motorcycle, which he now recognises as the source of that image.
“I still do not remember seeing the fireball. All my life I have had a free-floating memory of a skeleton riding a motorcycle, a frightful effigy. Now I know the source of that image.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:99360-99536 opinion first hand
563
At Whitley Strieber's grandmother's country home, a telephone call informed them that Mary Strieber's house had burned down.
“About four the telephone at the country house rang. I can remember my grandmother saying, "House burned down? Mary Strieber's house burned down?"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:9946-10085 testimony first hand
564
Whitley Strieber considers his sister's confirmation of the vacant lot incident as evidence that something disturbing did happen there, though what exactly it was remains unresolved to him.
“Were my sister's words confirmation? Yes — of the fact that something disturbing happened in that vacant lot so long ago. But the issue of what it was remains open.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:99544-99703 opinion first hand
565
Whitley Strieber identified a pattern involving two types of interaction with the visitors, one type involving the approach of a single individual or small group, as occurred during the fireball incident and at his grandmother's house.
“It involves two types of interaction with the visitors. One type seems to involve the approach of a single individual or small group, as happened on the night of the fireball, at my grandmother's, in the apartment on Ea”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:99761-99975 opinion first hand
566
Whitley Strieber recalls short visitation-type experiences occurring in his apartment on East Seventy-fifth Street and in the country during the October 4, 1985 abduction experience.
“st Seventy-fifth Street, and in the country on October 4.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:99983-100035 testimony first hand
567
Under hypnosis, Anne Strieber's memory of the night of 1985-07-30 stopped right before dinner and did not resume until Whitley Strieber returned the next morning, with the intervening period completely blank.
“She was left with a memory that just stops right before dinner and doesn't start again until I returned the next morning. What happened in between was completely blank, as if powerfully blocked.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:10249-10435 observation first hand
568
Anne Strieber was first hypnotized on 1986-03-13 to help her recall the nights of October 4 and December 26, 1985.
“when Anne was first hypnotized to aid her in recalling the nights of October 4 and December 26, she was aware only that something very unusual seemed to have happened on those dates”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:1117-1293 administrative first hand
569
Dr. Robert Naiman had not been told that there was heavy fog all night on 1985-10-04, causing it to be inky black due to the lack of reflected light in the sparsely populated area around the Striebers' country house.
“(Dr. Naiman had not been told that there was a heavy fog all night and it was inky black due to the lack of reflected light in this sparsely populated area.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:14132-14282 observation first hand
570
On the night of 1985-10-04, the moon was waning and past the half, rising about 10:30 p.m. and setting in the pre-dawn hours.
“The moon was waning and past the half. It rose about 10:30 and set in the pre dawn hours.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:14289-14372 observation first hand
571
Under hypnosis, Anne Strieber recalled that Whitley Strieber thought the roof was on fire during the night of 1985-10-04, though she did not see flames or light herself.
“Whitley'd been talking about the chimney lately. Feeling it. And he thought the roof was on fire. But I didn't see how the roof could be on fire because there were no flames and there was no light.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:17458-17649 testimony first hand
572
On the evening of 1986-03-15, Anne Strieber witnessed an apparition of a little girl at the Strieber family's country house in Ulster County, New York.
“On the evening of March 15, she was treated to the spectacular 179 witness of the little girl at our country house.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:1753-1862 testimony first hand
573
During the night of 1985-10-04, Whitley Strieber woke Anne Strieber for the first time after being awakened by a light that passed by the windows of their country house; by the time Anne Strieber was aroused, the light had reduced to a small glow in the front yard.
“(I woke her up the first time when I was awakened by the light that passed by the windows. By the time she was aroused, it had reduced to a small glow in the front yard.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:17658-17821 testimony first hand
574
Anne Strieber recalled that Whitley Strieber was not present much on the night in question, and that he sometimes goes out at night to work or just goes.
“"I don't think Whitley was there very much. He was gone. You know, he goes sometimes at night. He goes and works. Or he just goes."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:18583-18707 testimony first hand
575
Under hypnosis, Anne Strieber recalled that during the night of 1985-10-04, Whitley Strieber repeatedly left their bed, going downstairs and returning, doing things throughout the night.
“He was gone. You know, he goes sometimes at night. He goes and works. Or he just goes." "Where did he go that night?" "Downstairs." ... "He just was doing things all night."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:18626-18747 testimony first hand
576
Nobody else in the household remembered the Striebers' son screaming during the night of 1985-10-04, only recalling him calling for Whitley Strieber.
“(Nobody else remembered him screaming, only calling for me.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:19536-19591 observation first hand
577
Anne Strieber took over the intellectual direction of the Striebers' study of the visitor phenomenon, bringing her own creative and open mind and insisting that speculation proceed from known facts.
“our familiar teamwork system began to function, and she took over the intellectual direction of our study, bringing to it her own creative and open mind, as well as her steadfast insistence that all speculation proceed from known facts”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:2103-2333 opinion first hand
578
Under hypnosis conducted by Budd Hopkins, Anne Strieber recalled that Whitley Strieber left their bed and went downstairs during the night of the October 4, 1985 abduction experience.
“"Whitley kept going. Kept leaving."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:21326-21351 testimony first hand
579
Before hypnosis, Anne Strieber had a vague memory of Whitley Strieber warning her of fire on the night of October 4, 1985, of hearing an explosion, and of their son calling out to Whitley Strieber.
“Before hypnosis Anne had a vague memory of me warning her of fire on the night of October 4, of hearing an explosion and our son calling out to me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:2341-2485 testimony first hand
580
At the end of the March 17, 1986 hypnosis session, Anne Strieber said "Whitley's supposed to go. They came for Whitley."
“"Whitley's supposed to go. They came for Whitley."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:23720-23760 testimony first hand
581
In a footnote to the hypnosis transcript, Whitley Strieber noted that neither Jacques Sandulescu nor Annie Gottlieb testified that they got up that night, and both were awake enough to remember their own movements and each other's.
“(No. Neither of them testified that they got up, and both of them were awake enough to remember their own movements and that of the other.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:25101-25232 administrative first hand
582
In a footnote to the hypnosis transcript, Whitley Strieber noted that Annie Gottlieb did not leave her room and did not speak to their son that night.
“(Annie Gottlieb did not leave her room, and did not speak to our son.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:25512-25576 administrative first hand
583
Anne Strieber had no memories at all of the night of December 26, 1985.
“She had no memories at all of the night of December 26.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:2584-2636 testimony first hand
584
Whitley Strieber had previously told Anne Strieber that he "flew around the room" one night, which he remembered as a vivid dream.
“The previous March I had told her that I "flew around the room" one night. I remembered this as a vivid dream.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:2678-2782 testimony first hand
585
In 1982, the Striebers experienced the incident of "the white thing", which was dealt with in detail during Anne Strieber's hypnosis session.
“In 1982 we had the experience of the white thing, which was dealt with to detail in Anne's hypnosis.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:2939-3030 testimony first hand
586
Under hypnosis, Anne Strieber recalled Whitley Strieber talking about "a crystal in the sky" before the owl sighting during the December 26, 1985 abduction experience.
“"I remember Whitley talking about a crystal, too." ... "A crystal in the sky. But that was before the owl."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:30325-30440 testimony first hand
587
On 1986-03-13, Anne Strieber was hypnotized by Dr. Robert Naiman.
“On March 13, 1986, Anne was hypnotized by Dr. Robert Naiman.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:3041-3094 administrative first hand
588
Anne Strieber recalled that Whitley Strieber described the crystal in the sky as having a point that touched the earth.
“"He said it had a point that touched the earth."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:30878-30918 testimony first hand
589
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber chose a psychiatrist other than Dr. Donald Klein to hypnotize Anne Strieber so that his prior knowledge of the case could not unintentionally direct his questions.
“We chose a psychiatrist other than Don Klein so that there could be no possibility of his questions taking on some sort of unnoticed direction because of what he already knew.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:3102-3272 administrative first hand
590
Anne Strieber recalled that Whitley Strieber had told her he had flown around the room.
“"Whitley, you know, said he'd flown around the room. What do you say to something like that?"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:31141-31227 testimony second hand
591
Anne Strieber described her role as helping Whitley Strieber afterwards to deal with his experiences, saying she could not stop them from happening.
“"I'm supposed to kind of help him afterwards to deal with it. That's my role. But I can't stop them. you know. He just has to."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:32542-32664 testimony first hand
592
Anne Strieber recalled that Whitley Strieber later said something had poked him in the stomach and that he saw a little white thing at the LaGuardia Place apartment.
“"And then Whitley — I don't remember when it was, it was the next morning or whatever — and he said something poked him in the stomach. He said he saw a little white thing"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:33590-33755 testimony second hand
593
In a footnote, Whitley Strieber noted that Anne Strieber's description of the "little feet" of the white thing at the LaGuardia Place apartment in 1982 reminded him of Annie Gottlieb's memory of "scampering" in their country house in 1985, and that Anne Strieber was unaware of Annie Gottlieb's account at the time of her own hypnosis.
“(On reading this description of "little feet" in our apartment m 1982. I was reminded of Annie Gottlieb's memory of "scampering" in our country house in 1985. At the time of her hypnosis my wife was unaware of Annie's testimony.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:34213-34430 administrative first hand
594
A week after her first hypnosis session, Anne Strieber underwent a second hypnosis session conducted by Robert Naiman.
“She decided to attempt hypnosis again, and a week later was hypnotized by Dr. Naiman, who still had not been informed of the results of my sessions.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:37478-37617 administrative first hand
595
Robert Naiman, when he conducted Anne Strieber's second hypnosis session, had not been informed of the results of Anne Strieber's first hypnosis session conducted by Budd Hopkins.
“was hypnotized by Dr. Naiman, who still had not been informed of the results of my sessions.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:37534-37617 administrative first hand
596
During the March 21, 1986 hypnosis session, Anne Strieber recalled a powerful image that the screaming she had heard on the crucial night was Whitley Strieber screaming, not their son.
“it was found that she was still incapable of remembering much about the crucial nights, except that she had a powerful image that the screaming she had heard was me, not our son.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:37715-37889 testimony first hand
597
During the March 21, 1986 hypnosis session, Anne Strieber recalled seeing Whitley Strieber's face as he screamed and was terrified by the idea that something could frighten him that much.
“She also saw my face as I screamed, and was terrified by the idea that something could frighten me that much.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:37895-37999 testimony first hand
598
Whitley Strieber noted that before Anne Strieber's second hypnosis session, he inadvertently let slip to her that he thought he had been screaming on the night of October 4, 1985, which may have tainted her subsequent recollection.
“Unfortunately, during discussions about her first session I inadvertently let slip that I thought I had been screaming on the night of October 4. Even though her memory may thus have been tainted, her recollection of this is so vivid in the transcript that it may also be that it really happened.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:38121-38408 administrative first hand
599
Robert Naiman had previously worked with other people who reported similar experiences and took a supportive stance similar to that of Dr. Donald Klein.
“Bob Naiman had worked before with people who have had this experience, and took the same healthy and supportive stance that Don Klein did.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:3962-4096 testimony first hand
600
Budd Hopkins was present at Anne Strieber's hypnosis session, and questions he asked during the session are identified with his name while all other questions were asked by Dr. Robert Naiman.
“Budd Hopkins was present at Anne's session. Questions asked by him are identified with his name. All other questions were asked by Dr. Naiman.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:4102-4237 administrative first hand
601
During the March 17, 1986 hypnosis session, Budd Hopkins set a ground rule that Anne Strieber should not worry about saying anything she thought Whitley Strieber or Budd Hopkins wanted her to say.
“Budd Hopkins: "A basic ground rule today: Don't worry about saying anything you think Whitley or I may want you to say."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:41327-41427 administrative first hand
602
During the March 17, 1986 hypnosis session, Anne Strieber recalled a dream of a large Victorian house on a grassy hill, which was interpreted as symbolising the Strieber family life rather than a flying disc.
“For a time she reflected on a dream of a big, beautiful Victorian house on a grassy hill. It soon became evident that this was no symbol for a flying disk but rather for our family life.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:42317-42498 testimony second hand
603
Anne Strieber recalled that a small white being had poked her, Whitley Strieber, and their son, and considered this odd because it revealed the being's existence to all three of them at once.
“But since it poked me and our son, it kind of gave him away, and I thought it was odd of him to do that. With poking all of us . . . he revealed himself.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:43299-43444 testimony first hand
604
Anne Strieber said Whitley Strieber sees things out of the corner of his eye, which is why she thinks the being made a mistake in poking her since that gave the phenomenon a form of reality testing.
“No. I know Whitley does because he sees things out of the corner of his eye. That's why I think n made a mistake poking me. Because that gave it a kind of reality testing.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:45050-45213 opinion first hand
605
Anne Strieber recalled that everyone else said it was her son who called out, but she recalled it may have been Whitley Strieber screaming.
“It seems like he called me, but everybody says he called Whitley.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:45957-46014 testimony first hand
606
Anne Strieber said Whitley Strieber had told her it was him screaming on the night of the October 4, 1985 abduction experience.
“Well, I know Whitley told me it was him screaming. He told me that.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:46217-46279 testimony second hand
607
Under hypnosis, Anne Strieber recalled Whitley Strieber's face as very frightened and terrified, with his eyes widening and turning very white, while screaming on the night of the October 4, 1985 abduction experience.
“I can see his face, very frightened. Terrified. His eyes widen and get very white.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:46527-46603 testimony first hand
608
Anne Strieber described her role in the family situation as being the one who is not informed except through Whitley Strieber, and the one who responds emotionally.
“I'm the one who's not informed, except through Whitley. I'm the one who responds emotionally. I know if it feels right.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:48972-49085 opinion first hand
609
Anne Strieber said she felt a sense that Whitley Strieber was vulnerable, and that this was a frightening feeling she would rather not have.
“A feeling that Whitley was vulnerable. That's a rather frightening feeling. I would rather not know about these things that make Whitley vulnerable.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:49740-49877 opinion first hand
610
Whitley Strieber listened to the recording of Anne Strieber's first hypnosis session on March 17, 1986, the Monday after a confirming encounter in the country.
“I listened to the recording of Anne's first hypnosis on March 17, 1986, the Monday after the "confirming" encounter in the country.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:50015-50138 administrative first hand
611
Anne Strieber told Whitley Strieber that during the night she keeps her eyes closed and does not see him go, but hears noise.
“"No. But I hear it. There's a lot of noise sometimes. I keep my eyes closed."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:50426-50494 testimony first hand
612
Whitley Strieber considered that Anne Strieber's testimony under hypnosis was unlike a typical abduction scenario that could have been drawn from subconscious memories of things she had read, and thus was almost certainly taken from her actual memories and perceptions.
“It was by no means a "typical abduction scenario" that could have been drawn from subconscious memories of things she had read in the paper over the years. It was unlike other testimony — and thus was almost certainly taken not from her cultural background but from her actual memories and perceptions.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:50827-51117 opinion first hand
613
Whitley Strieber recalled that during his own hypnosis session he remembered an enigmatic female presence making noises to him while it was beside his bed on the night of the October 4, 1985 abduction experience.
“In my own hypnosis I remembered it making some sort of noises to me when it was beside the bed on the night of October 4.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:51443-51562 testimony first hand
614
Anne Strieber also remembered the enigmatic female presence beside the bed on the night of the October 4, 1985 abduction experience.
“Anne remembered this too. Despite the slip about my screaming she had no reason to identify that presence at the bedside, or to add that it was saying something while the screaming took place.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:51565-51751 testimony second hand
615
Whitley Strieber remembered probes going into his brain as part of his abduction experiences.
“I had remembered probes going into my brain.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:52366-52404 testimony first hand
616
Anne Strieber's hypnosis regression began with her memories of the night of 1985-07-30.
“The regression began with her memories of the night of July 30, 1985.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:5369-5433 administrative first hand
617
Whitley Strieber found two short essays that his son had written for his school journal over the fall which could describe events relating to the visitors, or could simply be the work of an imaginative boy.
“Before Anne's hypnosis I found two short essays he had written for his school Journal over the course of the fall, both of which could easily be descriptions of events relating to the visitors — or they could simply be the work of an imaginative little boy.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:54062-54315 testimony first hand
618
Whitley Strieber noted that drawings of monsters accompanying his son's essays suggested the large, slanted eyes associated with the visitors.
“And yet even the drawings of the "monsters" accompanying the stories suggest the large, slanted eyes of the visitors.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:54320-54429 testimony first hand
619
Whitley Strieber concluded his son's two essays likely referred to July 30 because the family is almost never separated and the essays concerned only his son and Anne Strieber.
“As both stories concern only him and his mother, we decided that they might refer to July 30. Since the three of us are almost never separated, it was easy to pinpoint that particular date.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:54440-54624 testimony first hand
620
On July 30, Whitley Strieber travelled to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania to appear on a National Public Radio programme.
“I had gone to Philadelphia to appear on a National Public Radio program.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:54630-54694 administrative first hand
621
Whitley Strieber spent the night at a hotel called the Harley in New York and returned to the country on the morning of July 31.
“I spent the night at the Harley in New York and returned to the country on the morning of the thirty-first.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:54703-54804 administrative first hand
622
There was evidence in the Striebers' son's school journal suggesting an event involving Anne Strieber might have taken place on the night of 1985-07-30, when she and their son were in the country and Whitley Strieber was away on business.
“there was some evidence in one of our son's school journals that an event ... involving her might have taken place on that night, when she and he were in the country and I was away on business”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:5476-5658 testimony first hand
623
When Whitley Strieber returned home on the morning of July 31, he found everything totally normal and his wife and son perfectly happy.
“I found everything totally normal, and my wife and son perfectly happy.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:54812-54877 testimony first hand
624
Both of the son's essays refer to Anne Strieber fainting when the monster appeared.
“Both of our son's essays refer to her fainting when the monster appeared.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:55418-55482 testimony second hand
625
Whitley Strieber recalled watching a grey screen he was put in front of when he was twelve years old.
“I remember more than once watching a screen, such as the gray one I was put in front of when I was twelve.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:55552-55651 testimony first hand
626
When Anne Strieber was first asked by Robert Naiman what she remembered about the night of October 4, she showed obvious distress, screwing up her face and clenching her eyes as if shrinking from a painful sight or noise.
“When she was first asked by Dr. Naiman what she remembered about the night of the fourth, she evidenced obvious distress, screwing up her face and clenching her eyes as if shrinking from a painful sight or noise.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:56114-56320 observation second hand
627
Dr. Robert Naiman began the hypnosis session focused on the night of 1985-07-30 without telling Anne Strieber why that date was chosen.
“Rather than suggest to her in any way that we thought this might be the case, Dr. Naiman began with that night without telling her why.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:5668-5799 administrative first hand
628
Whitley Strieber and his family conducted experiments at their country house to determine how clearly a voice from their son's room could be heard in their bedroom above.
“Then there was the matter of who screamed. We carried out experiments at the house to find out Just how clearly a voice from our son's room coup be heard in our bedroom above.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:58529-58698 measurement first hand
629
The experiments at the Strieber country house found that screams could be heard easily from the son's room to the bedroom above, but loud talking was much less audible.
“Screams could be heard easily. But loud talking was much less audible.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:58706-58768 measurement first hand
630
Whitley Strieber said he does not remember going out at night, never works in the middle of the night, and generally stays in bed all night unless he hears his son, which happens no more than two or three times a year.
“I don't *remember* going, though. I never work in the middle of the night. Once I'm in bed, I generally stay there all night unless I hear our son. And that happens no more than two or three times in a year.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:59381-59583 testimony first hand
631
Whitley Strieber described Anne Strieber as a committed feminist and as independent a person as he knows.
“She is as independent a person as I know, a committed feminist who”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:59913-59976 opinion first hand
632
Anne Strieber's hypnosis session suggested that Whitley Strieber is taken by the visitors all the time.
“Anne's hypnosis strongly suggested that I'm taken all the time.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:60569-60627 testimony second hand
633
When Anne Strieber was being hypnotised, she had no idea that Whitley Strieber remembered more than two occasions when something strange happened.
“When she was being hypnotized Anne had no idea at all that I remembered more than two occasions when something. strange happened.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:60694-60814 observation first hand
634
During a hypnosis session conducted by Robert Naiman and Budd Hopkins about the events of December 26, 1985, Anne Strieber referred to Whitley Strieber talking about a crystal in the sky.
“When Dr. Naiman and Budd Hopkins moved to the events of December 26, there was a flavor of what it must be like living with all these strange secrets when she made reference to my talking about the crystal in the sky.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:60945-61158 testimony second hand
635
Whitley Strieber remembers speaking of an image of a crystal in the sky and being nonplussed at the time because it seemed like a falsehood, something he needed to say to put a deep uneasiness to rest.
“I remember the image clearly, and I remember being nonplussed when I spoke of it, because even at the time it seemed like a sort of falsehood —something I needed to say in order to put some deep uneasiness to rest.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:61163-61372 testimony first hand
636
Anne Strieber said frankly that she did not consider Whitley Strieber a down-to-earth guy.
“She said frankly that she did not consider me a "down-to-earth guy."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:61379-61442 testimony first hand
637
During the hypnosis session, Robert Naiman asked Anne Strieber if she thought Whitley Strieber should go to a psychiatrist, and she said no because she thought he could deal with these problems.
“Dr. Naiman, quite naturally, asked her if she thought I should go to a psychiatrist. Her reply was interesting: "No. Because he — I think he can deal with these problems."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:61593-61754 testimony first hand
638
In March or April 1985, Whitley Strieber was lying in bed at the country house reading a book when he had the feeling that somebody was in the room, though the room appeared empty.
“In March or April 1985 I was lying in bed in the country house, reading a book, when I suddenly had the feeling that somebody was in the room. I was confused, because the room seemed empty.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:62133-62316 testimony first hand
639
During the March or April 1985 incident, Whitley Strieber floated out of the bed and saw a swirling, dizzying jumble of trees, house, and moon.
“The next thing I knew, I floated right out of the bed. I did not tell Anne that I saw a swirling, dizzying jumble of trees, house, and moon right after that.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:62425-62577 testimony first hand
640
Whitley Strieber did not tell Anne Strieber that he saw a swirling jumble of trees, house, and moon during the floating-out-of-bed incident, instead telling her only that he seemed to float around the room.
“It just seemed too odd, so I contented myself with saying that I had seemed to float around the room.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:62583-62679 testimony first hand
641
Anne Strieber said she often felt there were things going on with Whitley Strieber that she was not supposed to know about.
“Finally she volunteered that she's often felt that there are things "going on" with me that she wasn't "supposed" to know.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:63703-63820 testimony first hand
642
When asked under hypnosis whether Whitley Strieber has hallucinations, Anne Strieber said he does not have hallucinations, but that 'they come to him because of his head.'
“She was then specifically asked if I have hallucinations. Her reply was that I do not have hallucinations, but "they come to him because of his head."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:63990-64134 testimony first hand
643
Anne Strieber related her perceptions of a little white thing that invaded the Striebers' apartment in Greenwich Village.
“She then related her perceptions of the "little white thing" that invaded our apartment in the Village.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:64142-64237 testimony second hand
644
Whitley Strieber had considered calling his book Body Terror because of the extreme physical sensation of fear he had felt on December 26, 1985.
“I had thought to call this book *Body Terror* because of the extreme physical sensation of fear I had felt on December 26.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:65185-65304 testimony first hand
645
One night in April, Anne Strieber talked in her sleep and, in a strange basso profundo voice, said the book must not frighten people and should be called Communion.
“Suddenly she said in a strange basso profundo voice: "The book must not frighten people. You should call it *Communion*, because that's what it's about."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:65308-65454 observation first hand
646
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber deliberately avoided suggesting to their son that he might be dealing with something outside normal experience, instead telling him he had scary dreams.
“We have been careful to preserve our child from the faintest suggestion that he might be dealing with something outside of normal experience. We have told him that he has had some scary dreams.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:65730-65916 testimony first hand
647
Whitley Strieber's son has never been hypnotised and will not be until he can decide for himself whether he wishes to undergo it.
“He has never been hypnotized and he won't be until he can decide for himself if he wishes to do it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:66459-66555 testimony first hand
648
Whitley Strieber's son described a dream in which he was on a boat with his friend Ezra when someone was attacking, then switched to a dream of being in a hospital in the future where doctors were trying to cure a disease and he was taken from his bed onto a cot and out onto a porch.
“"Well, I was dreaming that I was on a boat with Ezra [a friend of his] and someone was attacking and we were about to dive off and I was in the middle of the air when I switched to this dream where I was in the hospital in the future where they were trying to cure some kind of disease. I'm not sure what it was. And I was taken out of my bed and onto a cot and out on the porch."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:66800-67172 testimony
649
Whitley Strieber's son described the doctor in his dream as a short, fat man wearing glasses with lenses that came out pointed upward, with a big fake smile, who worked at night and slept during the day.
“"Oh, he was a very short and fat man with glasses that came out pointed upward like that... And he always has a big fake smile on him... He kind of kept it there except when he was asleep... Well, he had — well, that's because he worked in the night and slept in the day"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:67282-67629 testimony
650
Whitley Strieber's son said the doctor in his dream had greenish-blue eyes and wore regular glasses, with a round puckered mouth when asleep.
“"He was wearing regular glasses. His eyes were a kind of greenish-blue color. Dark... [Makes an O.]" ... "Yeah. Puckered. Big puckered."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:67717-67794 testimony
651
Whitley Strieber's son described an operation performed on him in the dream that was like a test involving a disease on his arm, and having his nose made cold like eating a lot of ice cream.
“"Yeah, when he was doing the operation on me." "What kind of operation?" "Well, it was kind of like a test." ... "It was a disease on my arm." ... "No, wait. He kept your nose cold like when you eat a lot of ice cream."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:68068-68326 testimony
652
Whitley Strieber's son said the operation did not hurt.
“"Did it hurt?" "No, not really."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:68336-68360 testimony
653
Whitley Strieber's son described being examined on a porch resembling the porch light at the family's country house, because there was no way to get him into an operation room due to moving equipment.
“"Well, they took me onto the porch. There was no way to get me into an operation room because of all the moving equipment. And then by the porch light I mean kind of like the outside lights at the country house."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:68440-68644 testimony
654
Whitley Strieber's son said they used special lights to examine his nose and took X-rays, and Whitley Strieber notes this could be a buried memory of a babyhood injury to his nose that involved an X-ray to determine whether it was broken.
“"That's the light that was on. Then they took special lights and examined my nose and took X rays and stuff." (This last statement could easily be a buried memory of a babyhood injury to his nose. which involved an X ray to determine whether it was broken. But this memory seems to be mixed in with other material of a totally different nature.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:68719-69055 testimony
655
Whitley Strieber's son described blue lights that would allow them to see through him without an X-ray, and an orange light meant to see not his bones but the inside skin, along with big green lights.
“"Some were blue lights and they would look through the front of it and the blue light would make them see through me without an X ray." ... "And there was an orange light that was supposed to see not my bones but the inside skin and what was happening. Instead of having X rays and stuff, they had lights. They had big lights. Green lights."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:69090-69419 testimony
656
Whitley Strieber's son said a story about a monster coming into the house and his mother fainting was one of his journal stories, which he made up because he needed to write something for a free journal story period and the dream idea popped into his head.
“"That's one of my journal stories." ... "I don't know Not really. I remember it vaguely. Because I wrote that one along time ago... It was free journal story period and I couldn't think of anything. I was tossing and turning in my desk truing to think of something. And then suddenly that dream just popped in my head"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:69527-69912 testimony
657
Whitley Strieber's son described a dream in which he and his mother were in a cornfield, he was chewing on a piece of corn, his mother was telling fairy tales, and a huge, orange and green thing with blue feet and blue bumps hovered over them.
“"I was in a — I didn't explain it totally on the journal. It was in a cornfield, my mommy and me, and I was chewing on a piece of corn and my mom was telling fairy tales. And then suddenly this big, big — about let's say from the lobby of this building up to the top —hovered over us. It was colored orange, green, had blue feet." ... "It had these big bumps all over it that were blue and its feet were orange"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:69978-70309 testimony
658
Whitley Strieber notes that orange and green are colours associated with lights on the flying disk that has been seen in the Strieber family's area.
“(Orange and green are colors associated with lights on the flying disk that has been seen in our area.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:70309-70405 observation first hand
659
Whitley Strieber's son said the object in his dream was massive, not like an animal or creature, and it was kind of flying.
“"It wasn't like anything. It was just this big, massive thing." ... "It was like it was flying. Kind of."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:70463-70557 testimony
660
After the conversation, Whitley Strieber felt he had made a mistake with his last question to his son because it was heavily weighted with suggestion.
“At this point I felt that I had made a mistake with me last question, in that it was so heavily weighted with suggestion.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:70781-70891 observation first hand
661
Whitley Strieber's son spent the afternoon reading Tin-Tin and making a St. Patrick's Day card for his grandmother.
“He then went about his afternoon business, reading *Tin-Tin* and making a St. Patrick's Day card for his grandmother.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:71034-71139 observation first hand
662
Whitley Strieber had a dream shortly before speaking with his son in which he, Anne Strieber, and their son were together in a cottage in the English countryside that resembled their cabin, and Anne Strieber and the son went missing overnight.
“The three of us were together in the English countryside to my dream. We had rented a cottage. The inside of the cottage was identical to our cabin. I was confused, because Anne and our son were not there and it was already the evening.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:71326-71554 observation first hand
663
In Whitley Strieber's dream, he received a phone call and told the caller it was all right that Anne Strieber and his son were staying out all night.
“I was sitting up in bed when I got a call on the phone. I remember saving to the caller. "No, it's all right, they're full staving out all night."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:71563-71702 observation first hand
664
In Whitley Strieber's dream, there was a knock at the front door in the middle of the night and he found his son in the company of a group of rescue workers, ordinary men and women with deep, soft, loving faces.
“In the middle of the night there was a knock at the front door. I opened it to find my son in the company of a group of "rescue workers," ordinary men and women with deep, soft, and loving faces.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:71831-72020 observation first hand
665
In Whitley Strieber's dream, his son was naked except for a dark blue cap put on his head by one of the rescue workers and was moving strangely as if in a trance, with no control over his own muscles.
“My son was naked except for a dark blue cap that one of them had put on his head. He was moving strangely, as if he had no control over his own muscles. His eves looked as if he were in some sort of trance.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:72027-72226 observation first hand
666
In Whitley Strieber's dream, the rescue workers told him that touch and hugging would bring his son back to normal.
“I gathered him in my arms, because they told me that touch and hugging would bring him back to normal.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:72234-72329 observation first hand
667
In Whitley Strieber's dream, he was then transported to a cornfield where Anne Strieber and his son had been found hiding, resembling the cornfield in his son's dream.
“Then I was abruptly transported to another place. I was given to understand that Anne and our son had been found here, hiding. It was a cornfield. just like our son's dream.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:72527-72694 observation first hand
668
Whitley Strieber's son complained that when he started to fall asleep, his whole body would tingle and his hair would feel as if it were standing on end, followed by a voice asking him about his day and how he felt, and private things he did not wish to discuss with his father.
“The first one was that when he started to go to sleep, his whole body would tingle and he would feel as if his hair were standing on end. A voice would then ask him about his day. how he felt, and "private things" which he did not wish to discuss with me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:72829-73081 testimony second hand
669
Whitley Strieber's son also complained that he saw a skeleton looking at him when he was trying to relax.
“He also complained that he saw a skeleton looking at him when he was trying to relax.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:73086-73165 testimony second hand
670
Whitley Strieber's son clarified that what he saw was not a skeleton but one of the 'thin ones' that stood around behind the doctors, who always said 'We won't hurt you.'
“"Well, its — oh. It's not a skeleton, it's one of the thin ones that stood around behind the doctors." ... "You know, the thin ones that are always saying 'We won't hurt you'? Them. It's not a skeleton, it's one of the thin ants."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:73346-73585 testimony
671
Whitley Strieber's son's description of short beings and taller thin beings, never discussed with him by anyone, is consistent with Whitley Strieber's own observations and with the experiences of many other people who have encountered the visitors.
“The appearance of these people has never been discussed with my son at all, not by anybody, and vet his description of short ones and taller, thin ones is not only consistent with my own observations, it is consistent with the experiences of many of the other people who have encountered the visitors.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:73593-73885 observation first hand
672
Whitley Strieber's son bought a book of haiku entitled A Net of Fireflies at the Strand used-book store.
“He had bought a book of haiku at the Strand used-book store that afternoon, a book entitled *A Net of Fireflies*.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:73896-73998 observation first hand
673
Whitley Strieber had bought the same edition of A Net of Fireflies when he was twenty years old and living with his grandmother.
“I did not tell him that I had bought the same edition when I was twenty and living with my grandmother, and derived immense pleasure and comfort from it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:74010-74160 testimony first hand
674
Whitley Strieber's son said that the thin ones are like the haiku, that inside they are haiku.
“"Dad, you know, we like the haiku and all the beautiful words. But the thin ones, it's like they *are* the haiku. Inside, they are haiku."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:74531-74661 testimony
675
Whitley Strieber initially hid his abduction-related memories from Anne Strieber and their son and instead sought professional help from Budd Hopkins.
“my initial impulse was to hide everything, and when I could not do that I sought professional help through Budd Hopkins. I told Anne nothing and our son less than nothing.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:939-1102 testimony first hand
676
Whitley Strieber does not think the visitors (nonhuman beings) comply with human wishes, but has seen them be nicer.
“Whitley: "They won't comply, I don't think. They can be nicer, I've seen that."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:100603-100666 opinion first hand
677
Whitley Strieber's son recalled the visitors (nonhuman beings) saying in the middle of his head, "We won't hurt you, we won't hurt you."
“Whitley: "My son remembers them saying in the middle of his head, 'We won't hurt you, we won't hurt you.'"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:100736-100826 testimony second hand
678
Whitley Strieber has sensed fear from the visitors (nonhuman beings).
“Whitley: "I've sensed fear."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:100961-100973 testimony first hand
679
Whitley Strieber has triangles etched on his arm.
“I had triangles etched on my arm.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:104091-104120 testimony first hand
680
Whitley Strieber spent fifteen years involved with the Gurdjieff Foundation, largely because the thought of G. I. Gurdjieff and his disciple P. D. Ouspensky involved the triad as a primary expression of the essential structure of life.
“I spent fifteen years involved with the Gurdjieff Foundation, primarily because so much of the thought of G. I. Gurdjieff and his disciple P. D Ouspensky involved the triad as a primary expression of the essential structure of life, and I have always been fascinated with the significance of this figure.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:104173-104470 administrative first hand
681
On the night of the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, Whitley Strieber felt psychologically destroyed, as if his very self had died.
“On the night of December 26 I felt psychologically destroyed, as if my very self had died.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:110821-110906 testimony first hand
682
Whitley Strieber described the joints of the creature he saw during his abduction experiences as "insectlike", and his hypnotic transcripts continually refer to his impression that he was dealing with creatures that moved like insects.
“I described the joints of the creature I saw as "insectlike." And my hypnotic transcripts continually refer to my impression that I was dealing with creatures that moved like insects.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:11307-11482 observation first hand
683
When Anne Strieber and Whitley Strieber were first married, they found a motto for themselves in the Bible, from Ecclesiastes: "Two are better than one . . . and a cord of three strands is not quickly snapped."
“When we were first married, Anne and I found a motto for ourselves in the Bible, from Ecclesiastes, "Two are better than one . . . and a cord of three strands is not quickly snapped."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:113200-113374 administrative first hand
684
Anne Strieber cross-stitched the Ecclesiastes motto and it has remained with her and Whitley Strieber ever since their marriage.
“Anne cross-stitched it and it has been with us ever since.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:113385-113437 administrative first hand
685
Whitley Strieber did not know of Robert I. Sarbacher and his letter until 1986-08-09, months after his abduction experiences.
“I did not know of Dr. Sarbacher and his letter until August 9, 1986, months after I had my experiences.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:11491-11582 administrative first hand
686
Whitley Strieber considers that if the visitors are insectlike they could be organised as a hive, and might be no physical match for humans even in fairly large groups.
“If the visitors are indeed insectlike they could be organized as a hive, and not only as small as I saw but also as light as Dr. Sarbacher recalls being told. They may be no physical match for us, not even in fairly large groups.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:11867-12089 opinion first hand
687
Whitley Strieber sat in his living room on the couch where the visitors (nonhuman beings) left him on the night of the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, reflecting during the late night hours.
“Sitting in my silent living room on the couch where the visitors left me on the night of December 26, reading through the late night hours, I reflected on the relationship between the innocent and the sublime, the new and the ancient.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:119614-119840 testimony first hand
688
Whitley Strieber does not know whether the visitors described in his account are real, or why or exactly what is happening to him.
“We do not even know if there are visitors. We do not know what we are, or why this is happening, or exactly what is happening.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:120778-120894 opinion first hand
689
Whitley Strieber began his search into the UFO phenomenon by assuming he was dealing either with a mental aberration or a visit from another planet.
“I began this search by assuming that I was dealing either with a mental aberration or a visit "from another planet."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:1209-1317 opinion first hand
690
Whitley Strieber became interested in the tarot about fifteen years before writing this passage while researching the rise of monasticism in Europe for a historical novel he never wrote.
“About fifteen years ago I became interested in the tarot when I was studying the rise of monasticism in Europe for a historical novel I never actually wrote.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:121365-121516 testimony first hand
691
Whitley Strieber considers the tarot to be a philosophical machine that presents its ideas in the form of pictures rather than words, rather than a device for fortune-telling.
“the tarot is much more than a deck of fortune-telling cards; it is a sort philosophical machine that presents its ideas in the form of pictures rather than words.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:121546-121702 opinion first hand
692
Whitley Strieber speculates that if the visitors' mind is a hive structure, their language could be more a biological function than something learned, similar to the language of earth's hive insects.
“If their mind is also a hive structure, it could be that their language is more a biological function than something learned. Maybe it is like the language of earth's hive insects: a complex combination of movements, smells, and aural output.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:12312-12547 opinion first hand
693
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that the visitors are asking humanity to form a triad with them, and speculates that this may be the purpose of triangular and pyramidal imagery associated with them.
“Are the visitors asking us to form a triad with them? Is that the purpose of all the triangular and pyramidal imagery?”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:124051-124161 opinion first hand
694
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that he located triad symbolism in the visitor material because it is central to his own life, and that he inevitably extracts relevant material from any enigma he encounters.
“Maybe I have located these symbols in the visitor material simply because they are so central to my own life... Maybe it is inevitable that I would extract relevant material from any enigma that I encounter.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:124214-124470 opinion first hand
695
Whitley Strieber does not believe that Betty Andreasson chose entirely on her own to present the fiery drama of the risen eagle with such force in her testimony.
“I cannot think that Betty Andreasson chose to present the fiery drama of the risen eagle with such force in her testimony entirely on her own.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:124505-124643 opinion first hand
696
Betty Andreasson was terrified by the fire behind the eagle in her testimony, which Whitley Strieber describes as the fire that consumes the self.
“The fire behind the eagle felt so hot that it terrified Betty Andreasson, for it was the fire that consumes the self.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:125211-125323 opinion second hand
697
"Know thyself" was the refrain of the old Greek mystical philosophers, the admonition of Apollo and, according to Whitley Strieber, of the visitors who took Betty Andreasson.
“"Know thyself," was ever the refrain of the old Greek mystical philosophers, the admonition of Apollo and of the visitors who took Betty Andreasson.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:129227-129363 opinion first hand
698
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that the visitors are announcing themselves, through triangular symbolism, as belonging to the same laws that inscribe human beings, identifying their presence with an ideology of transformation shared with humanity.
“the visitors may be announcing themselves as belonging to the same laws that inscribe our beings, and identifying their presence with the everlasting ideology of transformation.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:130638-130800 opinion first hand
699
Whitley Strieber was in a small cabin cruiser on the Gulf of Mexico when a squall came up out of nowhere, gusting terrifically with twenty-foot waves threatening to swamp the boat.
“I was in a small cabin cruiser and a squall had come up out of nowhere on the Gulf of Mexico. The wind was gusting terrifically and twenty-foot waves were threatening to swamp the boat.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:131194-131374 testimony first hand
700
During the storm, Whitley Strieber saw across the sweep of whitecaps a tall pyramidal wave with glassy smooth sides and a peak streaming white spray, which appeared perfect, solid, and eternal before sinking slowly down.
“In the middle of a shaft of bright sunlight stood a tall pyramidal wave. Its sides were glassy smooth, its peak streaming white spray into the wind. For a moment it seemed perfect, solid, and eternal. Then it sank slowly down, the victim of the same random forces that had created it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:131619-131900 observation first hand
701
As Whitley Strieber's boat limped back into Port Aransas after the storm, the captain remarked, "You see some strange things out there."
“As we limped back into Port Aransas after the storm the captain commented, "You see some strange things out there."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:131904-132012 testimony first hand
702
Whitley Strieber considers it odd that a crashed weather balloon would have retained enough tension to appear, even briefly, as anything other than a flaccid plastic bag and some tinfoil.
“Maybe it was although it is odd that a crashed balloon would have retained enough of its tension to appear to anybody, even briefly, to be anything other than a flaccid plastic bag and some tinfoil.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:15259-15449 opinion first hand
703
Whitley Strieber considers that if the visitors are extraterrestrial, the range and age of related historical material suggests it cannot be the whole answer to the phenomenon.
“Judging from the extraordinary range — not to mention the age — of some of the material I have found, thin cannot be the whole answer.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:1527-1654 opinion first hand
704
Whitley Strieber considers it unlikely that a working base commander such as Colonel William Blanchard, whose order led to the original press release claiming the debris was a crashed disk, would have mistaken weather balloons, box kites, or radar targets.
“Even less likely to be confused on this matter would have been a working base commander such as Colonel William Blanchard, whose order led to the base press officer issuing the original press release claiming that the debris was a crashed disk.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:16135-16374 opinion first hand
705
The Roswell debris was picked up by air intelligence officers Jesse A. Marcel and "Cav" Cavett, who Whitley Strieber considers would have been unlikely to misidentify weather balloons and radar targets.
“The debris was picked up by air intelligence officers Jesse Marcel and "Cav" Cavett —two more men who would have been unlikely to misidentify items like weather balloons and radar targets.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:16380-16560 opinion first hand
706
Whitley Strieber argues that none of the officers originally involved in the Roswell incident thought they were dealing with known objects, or they never would have allowed their press release to be issued.
“It is that none of the officers originally involved ever thought that they were dealing with the remains of known objects or they never would have allowed their press release to be issued in the first place.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:17452-17653 opinion first hand
707
Whitley Strieber obtained a copy of Frank Scully's Behind the Flying Saucers and found no relationship between its tales and the 1947 Roswell affair.
“I obtained a copy of this book and discovered that there is no relationship whatsoever between its rather dubious tales and the affair in Roswell in 1947.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:18141-18290 observation first hand
708
Whitley Strieber found no evidence, based on service information obtained from the Air Force, of disciplinary action taken against any of the officers involved in the Roswell press release.
“Strangely, based on the service information I was able to obtain from the Air Force, I found no evidence of disciplinary action taken against any of the officers involved in the press release.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:19206-19390 observation first hand
709
Whitley Strieber concludes that a group of professionally competent Air Force officers caused the publication of a press release claiming the Air Force had recovered a crashed flying disk, after observing the debris, and that only after publication was any attempt made to change the story.
“The inescapable fact of the Roswell affair is that a group of professionally competent Air Force officers caused the publication of a press release claiming that the Air Force had recovered a crashed fling disk, after observing the debris. Only after this' release was published was any ahem pt made to change the story.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:19519-19833 opinion first hand
710
Whitley Strieber found the recent attempt to debunk a UFO sighting story in The Skeptical Inquirer unsatisfactory.
“The recent attempt to debunk this story in the *Skeptical Inquirer* was not satisfactory.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:20395-20471 opinion first hand
711
Fawcett and Greenwood's book demonstrates that extraordinarily strange things have happened and that the government has kept these things secret.
“Fawcett and Greenwood prove that some extraordinarily strange things have happened, and that the government has kept these things secret.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:21618-21748 opinion first hand
712
Whitley Strieber lists as one hypothesis that the visitors could be from another planet or planets.
“from another planet or planets.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:2169-2192 opinion first hand
713
When the Condon Report was issued in 1969, it was instrumental in causing Whitley Strieber to lose what small interest he had in flying disks and related phenomena.
“the Condon Report was instrumental in causing me to lose what small interest I had in flying disks and related phenomena.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:21911-22022 testimony first hand
714
Whitley Strieber read the Condon Report's preface and concluded that the project leader thought there was nothing of interest going on, leading him to conclude flying saucers were not real.
“I read the preface, and saw that the project leader apparently thought that there was nothing of interest going on. From that I concluded that flying saucers weren't real and forgot about them.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:22033-22221 testimony first hand
715
Whitley Strieber lists as one hypothesis that the visitors could be from earth but so different from humans that their reality has not hitherto been recognised.
“from earth, but so different from us that we have not hitherto understood that they were even real.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:2204-2298 opinion first hand
716
On rereading the Condon Report more carefully, Whitley Strieber found that its internal conclusions are at variance with the report's preface.
“Recently, I read the Condon Report more carefully and discovered that the internal conclusions are at variance with Condon's preface!”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:22228-22353 observation first hand
717
Whitley Strieber lists as one hypothesis that the visitors could be from another dimension of space-time, or from this dimension in space but not in time.
“from another aspect of space-time, in effect another dimension. from this dimension in space but not in time.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:2307-2411 opinion first hand
718
Whitley Strieber considers it an unsound position for Condon to have declared at the inception of the study that there was nothing to UFOs, and believes Condon should have resigned as project director after saying so.
“That is an unsound position to take at the inception of a study. Upon saying that, he should have resigned as project director.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:23501-23619 opinion first hand
719
The Condon Report ended the public interest of the United States government in the subject of unidentified flying objects.
“The Condon Report ended the public interest of the United States government in the whole subject of unknown flying objects.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:23927-24042 opinion first hand
720
Whitley Strieber believes that after the government turned away from studying UFOs, the number of cases of people being taken by the visitors quietly began to rise.
“Subsequent to the government's turning away from study in this area, very quietly the number of cases of people being taken by the visitors seems to have begun to rise.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:24051-24214 opinion first hand
721
Whitley Strieber considers that time travel may not be impossible, only unlikely and probably very energy-intensive.
“Some form of time travel may not be impossible, only unlikely and probably very energy-intensive.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:2417-2504 opinion first hand
722
Whitley Strieber believes that despite Carl Sagan's position, the large body of encounter memories amounts to an artifact of something.
“The large body of encounter memories. some heavily freighted with imagination, others more sparse, amount to an artifact of *something*.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:25939-26064 opinion first hand
723
Whitley Strieber believes there is a substantial body of carefully authenticated photographic evidence of unidentified flying devices that is very hard to refute except on an emotional level.
“there is a substantial body of carefully authenticated photographic evidence of the devices themselves that is very hard to refute in any way except on an emotional level.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:26081-26246 opinion first hand
724
Whitley Strieber found that Donald Menzel's description of the April 24, 1949 sighting in Flying Saucers is not the same as in the official report.
“I found that Dr. Menzel's description of the sighting in *Flying Saucers* is not the same as in the report.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:29222-29322 observation first hand
725
Whitley Strieber lists as one hypothesis that the visitors could originate from within us, a hypothesis he finds endlessly interesting and compelling.
“from within us. I keep returning to this hypothesis because I find it so endlessly interesting and at its core so compelling.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:2955-3069 opinion first hand
726
Whitley Strieber lists as one hypothesis that the visitors could be a side effect of a natural phenomenon involving magnetism and extra-low-frequency (ELF) electromagnetic fields triggering hallucinatory experiences.
“a side effect of a natural phenomenon. We know so little about how magnetism and extra-low frequencies of all kinds affect the human organism. Perhaps there are natural electromagnetic anomalies that trip a certain hallucinatory wire in the mind, causing many different people to have experiences so similar as to seem to the result of encounters with the same physical phenomena.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:3231-3601 opinion first hand
727
Whitley Strieber lists as one hypothesis that the visitors could be an aspect of the human species related to an ancient afterlife tradition.
“an aspect of the human species. We have a very ancient tradition of afterlife.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:3615-3683 opinion first hand
728
Whitley Strieber has reported that the being he has become familiar with looks like Ishtar.
“I have reported that the being I have become familiar with looks like Ishtar.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:39040-39110 testimony first hand
729
The being Whitley Strieber encountered told him she was old.
“She said she was old.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:39132-39149 testimony second hand
730
During the 1965 Northeastern United States power blackout, Stuart Whitman saw an object and heard a strange whistling sound outside his twelfth-story window.
“During the great northeastern power blackout of 1965, actor Stuart. Whitman saw an object and heard a strange whistling sound outside his twelfth-story window.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:40291-40443 testimony second hand
731
Stuart Whitman heard a message during the 1965 Northeastern United States power blackout sighting to the effect that the disaster was a warning to the world.
“He then heard a message to the effect that the disaster was "a warning to the world."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:40451-40529 testimony second hand
732
In December 1985, following the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, Whitley Strieber's car lost all electrical power and could not be restarted even by jumping the battery.
“In December 1985 a man had trouble with his car's electrical system after he had been taken by visitors. The car lost all electrical power and could not be restarted even by jumping the battery.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:41480-41666 testimony first hand
733
Whitley Strieber's car was towed to a repair shop where nothing was found to be wrong, and the battery recharged to normal by itself during the night.
“It was towed to a repair shop where nothing was found to be wrong The battery recharged to normal by itself during the night.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:41675-41794 testimony first hand
734
Whitley Strieber confirms the car electrical malfunction story is true because it happened to him, manifesting the morning after his December 26, 1985 abduction experience.
“I know that this story is true because the man it happened to was me, and the problem manifested itself the morning after my December 26 experience.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:41801-41939 testimony first hand
735
Whitley Strieber received information about electromagnetic motors from visitors that proved to be worthless or worse.
“There are many stories of visitors giving people secret knowledge. Much of it has proved to be worthless or worse, as was the information I got about electromagnetic motors.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:42486-42652 testimony first hand
736
In 1491, the Milanese mathematician Jerome Cardan reported a visitor encounter in which he asked his visitors about the cause of the universe.
“One fascinating case of transmission of knowledge dates from the year 1491, when the Milanese mathematician Jerome Cardan found himself involved in a visitor encounter. When he asked his visitors about the cause of the universe...”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:42661-42880 hearsay second hand
737
During his 1491 visitor encounter, Jerome Cardan reported that the tallest of the beings denied that God had made the world from eternity, and another said God created it from moment to moment, so that if He desisted for an instant the world would perish.
“"The tallest of them denied that God had made the world from eternity. On the contrary, the other added that God created it from moment to moment, so that should He desist for an instant the world would perish. . . "”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:42891-43093 hearsay second hand
738
Whitley Strieber considers the idea Jerome Cardan reported in 1491 to resemble a Zen concept, and also a quantum-physical idea suggesting the observer injects reality into the phenomenon observed.
“This is not a fifteenth-century idea. Upon contemplation, it emerges to a degree as a concept from Zen. More than that, though, it is a quantum-physical idea, suggesting that it is the observer who injects reality into the phenomenon observed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:43108-43342 opinion first hand
739
Whitley Strieber considers the idea Jerome Cardan reported to be an eleventh-century Arabic idea rather than a fifteenth-century one.
“Far from being a fifteenth-century idea, it is an eleventh-century Arabic idea.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:43353-43427 opinion first hand
740
There is no other record in European scientific and religious literature of the period of the idea Jerome Cardan reported obtaining from his 1491 visitor encounter.
“There is no other record of it in European scientific and religious literature of the period.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:43524-43610 opinion first hand
741
Jerome Cardan risked his life to the Inquisition by admitting communion with the sylphs, who were viewed as demons.
“what would have been his motive for risking his life to the Inquisition by admitting communion with the sylphs, who were viewed as demons?”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:43681-43812 opinion first hand
742
In recent years many abductees have reported having sexual experiences with the visitors.
“In recent years many of the taken have reported having sexual experiences with the visitors.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:44166-44249 hearsay
743
Plato was believed to be the issue of a peculiar coupling.
“Plato was also believed to be the issue of some sort of peculiar coupling”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:45422-45487 hearsay
744
Merlin the magician was believed to have been born of an incubus and one of the daughters of Charlemagne.
“as was Merlin the magician, born of an incubus and one of the daughters of Charlemagne.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:45497-45572 hearsay
745
Whitley Strieber recalls that the entity that haunted him in Austin in 1967 made a high-pitched sound similar to the one described in Sinistrari de Ameno's treatise.
“I note in passing that when I first read this my blood went cold to remember that the thing that haunted me in Austin in 1967 made such a high-pitched sound.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:45872-46023 testimony first hand
746
In Brazil in 1957, Antonio Villas-Boas experienced a number of instances of strange lights appearing in his fields on the days prior to his encounter.
“A famous case of sexual involvement with visitors took place in Brazil in 1957. The victim, Antonio Villas-Boas, had experienced a number of instances of strange lights appearing in his fields on the days prior to his experience.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:47891-48109 hearsay second hand
747
Antonio Villas-Boas's tractor died one night in his field, after which he saw that an object had landed in front of him.
“He was running his tractor one night when it died. Mr. Villas-Boas then saw that an object had landed in front of him.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:48121-48235 hearsay second hand
748
Antonio Villas-Boas was stripped, washed with a sponge, and taken inside the landed device where he was left lying naked on a table.
“He was stripped, washed with a sponge, arid taken inside the device. He was left lying on a table, naked.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:48240-48339 hearsay second hand
749
During his 1957 encounter, Antonio Villas-Boas saw a naked, seemingly human woman with blond hair parted in the centre, an extremely wide face, blue slanted eyes, a pointed chin, and very thin, nearly invisible lips, who was shorter than he was.
“Sometime later he was astounded to see a naked woman, seemingly human, enter the room. Her hair was blond, parted in the center. Her face was extremely wide, her eyes blue and slanted. The face ended in a pointed chin. Her lips were very thin, nearly invisible . She was shorter than he was.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:48346-48633 hearsay second hand
750
The woman Antonio Villas-Boas described made love to him, pointed to her belly and then to the sky, and left him.
“She made love to him, pointed to her belly and then to the sky, and left him.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:48846-48919 hearsay second hand
751
Antonio Villas-Boas was later taken into a room with males and attempted, but failed, to steal a clock.
“Later he was taken into a room with some males and attempted to steal a clock. ... he failed to get his artifact.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:48924-48996 hearsay second hand
752
The December 29, 1980 Huffman, Texas UFO incident occurred on the same day and at about the same hour as the December 1980 Rendlesham Forest incident in England.
“(Oddly enough, this occurred on the same day and at about the same hour that a spectacular and controversial sighting was taking pace halfway across the world in Rendlesam Forest, England.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:49413-49592 opinion first hand
753
Some people at the December 29, 1980 Huffman, Texas UFO incident were exposed to heat and apparently radiation.
“Some of these people were exposed to heat and apparently radiation.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:49745-49802 hearsay
754
Victims of the December 29, 1980 Huffman, Texas UFO incident brought suit in federal court, assuming they had been victims of a secret aircraft gone wrong.
“They brought suit in federal court, assuming that they had been the victims of a secret aircraft gone wrong.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:49813-49915 hearsay
755
A double mastectomy has been performed on one victim of the December 29, 1980 Huffman, Texas UFO incident.
“a double mastectomy has been performed on one victim”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:50067-50113 hearsay
756
Bishop Adelbard of Lyons, in the time of Charlemagne, saved from an enraged crowd three men and a woman who had been seen climbing down from an airship by half the citizens of a town.
“The first debunker was probably the Bishop Adelbard of Lyons, who in the time of Charlemagne saved from an enraged crowd three men and a woman who had been seen climbing down from an airship by half the citizens of the town.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:50815-51034 hearsay
757
The three men and woman saved by Bishop Adelbard of Lyons claimed to have been taken for a period of days.
“They claimed to have been taken for a period of days.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:51040-51088 hearsay
758
Bishop Adelbard of Lyons saved the three men and woman by announcing to the crowd that the whole thing was obviously impossible, and that people had not seen what they thought they had seen because there were no airships.
“The bishop saved them by announcing to the crowd that the whole thing was obviously impossible, and that people *had not seen* what they thought they had seen, nor had the poor victims been in any airship, because there were no airships.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:51094-51322 hearsay
759
Whitley Strieber's historical survey found that the core experience of seeing flying disks and small figures dates back a long time.
“My historical survey has found that the core experience of seeing flying disks and small figures goes back a long, long time.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:5182-5302 observation first hand
760
Budd Hopkins has dealt with more than a hundred cases of people who encountered the visitors and understands the pattern of their response.
“Budd Hopkins has developed great sensitivity to the problems people face after they encounter the visitors. He has dealt with more than a hundred cases, and knows the pattern of response.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:53524-53702 administrative first hand
761
Budd Hopkins told Whitley Strieber that everybody in the support group half believes they are dreaming up the experiences, and that this is the healthiest way, and that nobody is going to show him an extraterrestrial belt buckle.
“"Don't worry," he said, "everybody half believes that they're dreaming all of this up. And that's the healthiest way. Nobody is going to show you an extraterrestrial belt buckle and blow your mind."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:53845-54036 testimony second hand
762
Whitley Strieber interviewed a man who believed he had been contacted by beings who looked like beautiful gods and goddesses, who told him the world was soon going to end and that the chosen would be taken to live on a moon of Jupiter.
“Just a few days before, I had interviewed a person who believed that he had been contacted by people who "gosh, just looked like the most beautiful gods and goddesses you ever saw," who explained to him that the world was soon going to end and that the "chosen" would be taken to live on a moon of Jupiter.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:54098-54396 hearsay second hand
763
Whitley Strieber considers that the man he interviewed had altered the terrifying and uncontrollable parts of a familiar initial visitation experience into a structure of belief congenial to him.
“This man described a familiar initial visitation, but had altered the terrifying and uncontrollable parts into a structure of belief congenial to him.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:54425-54571 opinion first hand
764
Whitley Strieber found that the support group members wanted nothing to do with publicity and demanded anonymity, contrary to his expectations.
“This was all very far off the mark. They wanted nothing to do with publicity. They demanded anonymity.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:54806-54898 observation first hand
765
Whitley Strieber found the support group members to be a cross section of average people, including a business executive, a cosmetologist, a scientist, a hairdresser, a former museum curator, a musician, and a dancer.
“The group was for the most part rather hardheaded and not unusually imaginative. Among them were a business executive, a cosmetologist, a scientist, a hairdresser, a former museum curator, a musician, a dancer — in short a cross section of any big city.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:55150-55398 observation first hand
766
Whitley Strieber found that his experience had many similarities to those of the support group, with almost all members having seen versions of the same creatures.
“I found that my experience had many similarities to those of the support group. We have almost all seen versions of the same creatures.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:55532-55657 observation first hand
767
Whitley Strieber describes the creatures reported by the support group as some small and quick wearing gray or blue uniforms, and others taller, graceful, and thin with almond or round eyes.
“Some of these are small and quick, wearing gray or blue uniforms. Others are taller, graceful, and thin, some with almond eyes and others with round eyes.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:55668-55817 observation first hand
768
Whitley Strieber recalls seeing, in his childhood, a commanding presence dressed in white with light blue eyes and skin as white as a sheet.
“I have also seen, in my childhood, a very commanding presence in white, which had light blue eyes and skin as white as a sheet.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:55823-55944 testimony first hand
769
Whitley Strieber's childhood memory of the commanding white presence returned to him as disjointed memories apparently dislodged by his thinking about the visitor subject.
“This came back to me in the form of disjointed memories apparently dislodged by all the thinking I had been doing about this subject.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:55951-56076 testimony first hand
770
Support group members reported observations of a ubiquitous gray table with a solid base, the smallness of the visitors, their large black eyes devoid of iris or pupil, and the presence of more than one type or species appearing together.
“Other relatively common observations are the seemingly ubiquitous dray table with the solid base, the smallness of the visitors, their large, black eyes devoid of iris or pupil, and the fact that there is either more than one type or more than one species appearing in the same context.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:56086-56364 observation first hand
771
Many support group members reported having relationships with particular beings.
“Many of us also seemed to have relationships with particular beings.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:56373-56434 observation first hand
772
The visitors' skin tone is reported by the support group as gray with other overtones, sometimes speaking with a high squeaking sound or a deep bass, and sometimes communicating words inside a person's head.
“Their skin tone seems to be gray, with other overtones. When they speak aloud, it is sometimes with a high, squeaking sound, other times in a deep bass. They can also create words inside the center of their Beads.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:56443-56650 observation first hand
773
Support group members reported that the visitors can seem as emotionless as stones at times, and various pungent smells are commonly reported.
“Other times they are as emotionless as stones. People report various smells, primarily pungent.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:56710-56797 observation first hand
774
Light is commonly described among support group members both as a means of anesthesia and as a medium of transport, with statements such as rising up a shaft of light or being paralysed when light hit them.
“Light, both as a means of anesthesia and as a medium of transport, is commonly described. "I rose up the shaft of light" and "The light hit me and I was totally paralyzed" are typical statements.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:56806-56990 observation first hand
775
Electromagnetic effects, primarily malfunctioning cars, television sets, and home lights, are commonly reported by the support group.
“Electromagnetic effects are also commonly reported, primarily malfunctioning cars, television sets, and home lights.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:57002-57111 observation first hand
776
A number of the colloquy members reported being in a small operating theatre, though none could remember what transpired there.
“A number of us have also been in a small operating theater, but nobody seems to remember what transpires there.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:57120-57225 observation first hand
777
One woman among the colloquy was left to walk around the small operating theatre by herself.
“One woman was left to walk around in such a place by herself.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:57232-57285 hearsay second hand
778
A very low-pitched noise, distinct from the various voices, is reported among the colloquy members, and there is a small body of research suggesting low-frequency sound may have biological effects, especially disorientation.
“Interestingly, one sound that is reported other than the various voices is a very low-pitched noise. There is a small body of research suggesting that low-frequency sound may have biological effects, especially in the area of disorientation.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:57295-57521 observation first hand
779
Whitley Strieber identifies a striking symbolic consistency among abduction accounts that has almost no reference to modern Western culture, making it unlikely to be drawn from a general pool of background symbols.
“There is as well a striking symbolic consistency, which lies hidden within many of the accounts I have heard and read. It has almost no reference to modern Western culture, and so is not particularly likely to have been drawn from some general pool of background symbols.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:57538-57801 opinion first hand
780
Whitley Strieber has had a lifelong interest, almost an obsession, in the triangle symbol, and other colloquy members also noted its presence.
“I have had a lifelong interest in it — really, an obsession. The others m the colloquy all noted its presence.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:57920-58021 testimony first hand
781
The triangle is the central symbol of growth in many ancient traditions, and an understanding of it is the key to the riddle of the Sphinx and to the pyramid as a mark of eternal life.
“It is the central symbol of growth in many ancient traditions. An understanding of it is the key to the riddle of the Sphinx and to the pyramid as the mark of eternal life.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:58376-58543 opinion first hand
782
Whitley Strieber had a pair of triangles etched on his arm in February 1986.
“I had a pair of triangles etched on my arm in February 1986.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:58662-58717 testimony first hand
783
"Dr. X", an anonymous physician in Arles, France, had a triangular rash appear around his navel after his experience.
“"Dr. X," a physician in Arles, France, who prefers to remain anonymous, had a triangular rash appear around his navel after his experience.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:58724-58851 hearsay second hand
784
Neither Whitley Strieber nor any of the colloquy participants was aware of the symbolic importance of the triangle while the April 13, 1986 colloquy at Budd Hopkins' home was taking place.
“While the colloquy was taking place neither I nor any of the participants was aware of the symbol's importance.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:58930-59030 testimony first hand
785
On the night of April 13, 1986, eleven people met at the home of Budd Hopkins, selected on the basis that they lived in the New York area and could attend.
“On the night of April 13, 1986, eleven of us met at the home of Budd Hopkins. We were selected simply on the basis of the fact that we live in the New York area and could come.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:59262-59433 administrative first hand
786
During the April 13, 1986 colloquy, Whitley Strieber persistently asked that specific experiences be recounted but did not have much success.
“During the colloquy I persistently asked that specific experiences be recounted, but did not have too much success.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:59440-59547 testimony first hand
787
The purpose of the April 13, 1986 colloquy at Budd Hopkins' home was not primarily to discuss the details of being taken, but rather the experience of coping with it.
“The purpose of the colloquy was not primarily to discuss the details of being taken, but rather the experience of coping with it, of trying to live a no”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:59828-59976 administrative first hand
788
The April 13, 1986 colloquy at Budd Hopkins' home included only two participants using their real names: Whitley Strieber and Budd Hopkins; all other participants used pseudonyms.
“Needless to say, none of these people would allow his or her name to be used. The only real names in the colloquy are thus my own and that of Budd Hopkins.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:60163-60310 administrative first hand
789
Whitley Strieber considers that the theory of visitors travelling back from the future to study human history would explain why creatures encountered in 1986 seemed unaware of contemporary languages, nature, and clothing, while also having a history as fairies and gods going back thousands of years.
“Of all the theories, this one alone explains why creatures in 1986 would seem so unaware of our languages, nature, and even our clothing, and yet possibly have a history as fairies and gods going back thousands of years.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:6024-6238 opinion first hand
790
Whitley Strieber, a participant in the April 13, 1986 colloquy at Budd Hopkins' home, is described in the colloquy roster as a writer aged 40.
“Whitley, writer, age 40”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:60626-60647 administrative
791
Whitley Strieber, during the April 13, 1986 colloquy at Budd Hopkins' home, said that in February he had a triangular piece of skin taken from his arm.
“In February I had a triangular piece taken out of my skin on my arm.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:64031-64095 testimony first hand
792
Whitley Strieber spent a great deal of time searching a large body of literature on unidentified entities and their craft.
“I have spent a great deal of time in the past few months searching what could only be described as a morass of literature on the subject of unidentified entities and their craft.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:7176-7348 administrative first hand
793
Whitley Strieber talked to scientists who think the UFO phenomenon is nonsense and scientists who are not so sure.
“I have talked to scientists who think that it's all nonsense and to scientists who are not so sure.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:7355-7449 testimony first hand
794
Whitley Strieber read dozens of case histories and met many other people who have had visitor experiences.
“I have read dozens of case histories and met many other people who have had visitor experiences.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:7455-7539 testimony first hand
795
Whitley Strieber found an undertone of claims in his research that the government knew more about the UFO/visitor phenomenon than it was saying, prompting him to investigate.
“In my research I found an undertone of claims that the government knew more about this mattes than it was saying I decided to do some investigation into the truth of this possibility.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:7633-7804 testimony first hand
796
Whitley Strieber, during the April 13, 1986 colloquy at Budd Hopkins' home, said his own impression matched Sam's description that the beings operated under something like military discipline.
“Sam: "They were almost like under military discipline." Whitley: "That was my impression."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:78761-78834 testimony first hand
797
Whitley Strieber, during the April 13, 1986 colloquy at Budd Hopkins' home, said he sometimes felt incredible personality from one of the beings, describing her as the strongest personality in his life.
“And yet at times I feel incredible personality. She's the strongest personality in my life.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:79413-79499 testimony first hand
798
There is some small reason to speculate that the United States government may have had some sort of communication from visitors as early as the late 1940s, as well as having obtained pieces of crashed disks and the bodies of the occupants.
“There is some small reason to speculate that the United States government may have had some sort of communication from visitors as early as the late 1940s, as well as obtained pieces of crashed disks and the bodies of the occupants.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:8031-8253 opinion first hand
799
Whitley Strieber's visitor communicates with him and looks like a large insect with big eyes, resembling nothing like a human being.
“The one that speaks to me looks like a big bug. Big eyes. Doesn't look anything like a human being.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:81386-81479 testimony first hand
800
Whitley Strieber personally investigated and confirmed as genuine the two pieces of evidence on which he based his speculation about government knowledge of the visitor phenomenon.
“I base this notion on the two best pieces of evidence I could find, both of which I have personally investigated and confirmed as genuine.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:8265-8395 testimony first hand
801
During February and March 1986, Whitley Strieber received a large quantity of material, in the form of vivid bursts of information, concerning the perilous condition of the earth's atmosphere.
“Much of this material came in February and March of 1986 and concerned the danger of impending atmospheric deterioration.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:83360-83467 testimony first hand
802
In March 1986, Whitley Strieber called a press conference of environmental reporters in Washington, D.C. to discuss the book he wrote with James Kunetka, Nature's End, and to warn about the ozone layer hole detected over Antarctica.
“In March I called a dress conference of environmental reporters in Washington, D.C., to discuss a book I wrote with James Kunetka, *Nature's End*, and to warn about the serious implications of the hole that had been detected in the ozone layer over the Antarctic.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:83482-83735 administrative first hand
803
Whitley Strieber's apparent visitor information suggested the Antarctic ozone hole would lead to further holes over the Arctic and a thinning of the ozone layer over the Northern Hemisphere, with measurable crop damage from excessive ultraviolet light beginning between 1990 and 1993.
“My apparent visitor information suggested this hole would lead to further holes over the Arctic and thereafter a thinning of the ozone layer over the Northern Hemisphere, with measurable crop damage from excessive ultraviolet light beginning to occur in the 1990-1993 period.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:83746-84014 testimony first hand
804
Whitley Strieber was also told through his visitor experience that atmospheric problems would cause a reduction in immune system vitality in all animals and a consequent resurgence of disease.
“I had also been told that the atmospheric problems will cause a reduction in immune system vitality in all animals, and the consequent resurgence of disease.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:84141-84290 testimony first hand
805
Whitley Strieber's visitor information suggested that volcanic activity had exacerbated the ozone problem, and that the size of the major ozone holes would see some temporary reduction during the eleven years from 1986 to 1997.
“Additional information suggested that volcanic activity had exacerbated the ozone problem, and that there would be some reduction of the size of the major holes during the eleven years from 1986 to 1997, but that this would be only a temporary respite.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:84668-84912 testimony first hand
806
Whitley Strieber declined to tell reporters that alleged visitors were involved in his ozone warning because he believed it would likely destroy his credibility.
“If I had told the reporters that alleged visitors were in any way involved, it seemed to me that there was a high probability that my credibility would be destroyed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:85510-85665 testimony first hand
807
In the year following his March 1986 ozone warning, Whitley Strieber found that his atmospheric predictions had emerged as quite accurate.
“However, in the past year the atmospheric predictions have emerged as being quite accurate, and I thought it best to mention them in view of the obvious seriousness of the problem that they address.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:85842-86032 opinion first hand
808
A couple of weeks before the April 13, 1986 colloquy, Whitley Strieber saw a light travel down the hall and into his son's bedroom, but found nothing wrong when he ran in.
“I saw a light just a couple of weeks ago that went down the hall and into my son's bedroom. I ran in there, but I couldn't see anything wrong”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:88103-88239 testimony first hand
809
A few nights before the April 13, 1986 colloquy, Whitley Strieber's television went off at the main switch and had to be reset before the remote control could be used again.
“My own television went off at the main switch a few nights earlier, so that it had to be reset before the remote control could be used again.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:88621-88756 observation first hand
810
Whitley Strieber, Anne Strieber, and a scientist friend observed that Whitley Strieber can sometimes affect electronic devices by simply placing his hand near them.
“My wife, myself, and a scientist friend have observed that I can sometimes affect electronic devices by simply placing my hand near them.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:88763-88895 observation first hand
811
Whitley Strieber intended to devise physical tests with a scientist friend to attempt to measure his apparent ability to affect electronic devices with his hand.
“Since the energies that activate such instruments are known, we intend to devise some physical tests to attempt to measure this.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:88901-89024 testimony first hand
812
Whitley Strieber walks into rooms and short-circuits stereos and electronic equipment, to the point where some people will not let him near their equipment.
“I walk into rooms and short out stereos and things to the point where there are people who won't let me get near their sets, and get mad if I touch the equipment because they say it shortens its life.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:89673-89868 testimony first hand
813
Robert I. Sarbacher died on 1986-07-26, a few days before Whitley Strieber became aware of his letter.
“As Dr. Sarbacher died on July 26, 1986, a few days before I became aware of his letter, I was unable to interview him”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:9070-9184 administrative first hand
814
Whitley Strieber was unable to interview Robert I. Sarbacher because Sarbacher died shortly before Strieber became aware of his letter.
“I was unable to interview him, but I discussed his case with Mr. Barry Greenwood.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:9158-9229 administrative first hand
815
Barry Greenwood's discussions revealed that Robert I. Sarbacher did not appear to know more than he stated in his letter, but was quite certain that the facts he related were as he remembered them.
“These discussions revealed that Dr. Sarbacher did not appear to know more than he stated in his letter, but he was quite certain that the facts he did relate were as he remembered them.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:9312-9492 hearsay second hand
816
Jenny had held a lifelong dream, since age nine, to move to New York City to live in a big city full of lights and people, and fulfilled this dream.
“One of them, jenny, had just fulfilled her lifelong dream to move to New York and 'live in a big city full of lights and lots of people.' She has had this aspiration since she was nine.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:94818-94998 testimony second hand
817
Whitley Strieber grew up with the dream of living in a small apartment in an enormous building in New York City with a view of a brick wall, achieved this, but found it did not help him escape whatever he was running from.
“I grew up with the same dream, to live in a little apartment m an enormous building in New York with a view of a brick wall. I did that, though, and it didn't help at all.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:95005-95173 testimony first hand
818
Whitley Strieber now lives in an apartment with large windows and spends considerable time in an isolated country cabin.
“I now live in an apartment with huge windows and spend a lot of time m a very isolate country cabin.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:95178-95272 testimony first hand
819
Whitley Strieber has been extensively psychologically tested twice, and both times the testing showed a deep anxiety in the performance area.
“I've been extensively psychologically tested twice, and in both cases it came out that there was this deep anxiety in the performance area.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:95618-95752 testimony first hand
820
After passing the craft and taking the Great Neck exit, the man saw above a small hill what appeared to be a flashing advertising sign made of many small lightbulbs, with an angle suggesting it was attached to two sides of a building.
“Above this hill he saw what appeared to be an advertising sign made of many small lightbulbs. It had an angle in it, suggesting that it was attached to two sides of a building. It was flashing, but the symbols were incomprehensible.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:10084-10299 testimony second hand
821
When the man rounded the horseshoe exit and viewed the sign from another angle, he realized there was no building there, and the object then shot off to the southwest, rising into the overcast with blinding speed.
“As he rounded the horseshoe and saw the sign from another angle, he realized that there was no building there. Then he concluded that it must be a plane. But it suddenly shot off to the southwest, rising into the overcast with blinding speed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:10318-10554 testimony second hand
822
The man who witnessed the Great Neck craft was a leading perceptual psychologist with encyclopedic knowledge of how the brain perceives things.
“He is a leading perceptual psychologist with encyclopedic knowledge of just exactly how the brain perceives things, and what misperceptions mean.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:10811-10951 administrative first hand
823
The man who witnessed the Great Neck craft had a near-photographic memory and eyes so superb that he could see the moons of Jupiter unaided.
“What's more, he has a near-photographic memory and eyes so superb that he can see the moons of Jupiter unaided.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:10957-11060 administrative first hand
824
The man who witnessed the Great Neck craft was highly intelligent and exceptionally emotionally stable, having had many hundreds of hours of psychoanalysis as part of his clinical training.
“He is also highly intelligent and exceptionally emotionally stable, having had many hundreds of hours of psychoanalysis as part of his clinical training.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:11070-11214 administrative first hand
825
The man who witnessed the Great Neck craft feels certain that what he saw was actually there.
“But this highly qualified man feels certain that what he saw was actually there.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:11278-11352 opinion second hand
826
Other drivers did not react to the Great Neck craft at all.
“Interestingly, other drivers did not react to it at all.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:11359-11411 testimony second hand
827
Mikhail Gorbachev has taken to wearing makeup on Soviet television to obscure a birthmark on his forehead because people have called it the mark of the beast.
“Premier Gorbachev has taken to wearing makeup on Soviet television to obscure a birthmark on his forehead because people have called it "the mark of the 294 beast."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:1334-1491 observation first hand
828
Ariadne handed a thread to Theseus when he stood before the maze of the Minotaur.
“for it will be the same thread that the maiden Ariadne handed to Theseus when he stood before the maze of the Minotaur, voting and strong and mad with courage.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:15462-15613 observation first hand
829
The word chernobyl in Ukrainian means wormwood.
“the word *chernobyl* in Ukranian means "wormwood,"”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:1568-1609 observation first hand
830
Wormwood is the name of a star in the Book of Revelation that is poison to a third of the waters.
“the name of the star in the Book of Revelation that is poison to a third of the waters”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:1620-1700 observation second hand
831
Albert Einstein later wrote a letter to President Franklin D. Roosevelt that started the United States on the road to splitting the atom and creating the atomic bomb.
“Within the decade, he would write President Roosevelt the letter that started the United States on the road to splitting the atom and creating the atomic bomb.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:3807-3961 observation first hand
832
An unnamed skeptic told Whitley Strieber that he knows in his heart the visitors might possibly be here, but that if they are and are acting like this, it is so disappointing that he prefers not to believe it.
“"I know in my heart that they might possibly be here," one skeptic said to me, "but if they are, and they're acting like this, it's just so damned disappointing that I prefer not to believe it."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:3969-4158 opinion second hand
833
During his experiences with the visitors, Whitley Strieber did not feel inferior to them; they seemed wiser but also more simple and unformed as individuals, and they seemed to fear and be in awe of him.
“Looking back over my experiences with the visitors, I cannot say that I felt inferior to them. On the contrary, the people I encountered did not seem superior so much as wiser, but also more simple and unformed as individuals. And they not only feared me, they seemed in awe of me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:4479-4757 opinion first hand
834
When Whitley Strieber asked the visitors what they could do to help him stop screaming, there was an edge of panic among them.
“When they asked me what they could do to help me stop screaming, there was an edge of panic among them.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:4761-4859 observation first hand
835
Whitley Strieber considers the visitors not all-powerful superbeings but frail, limited individuals far from home.
“They are not all-powerful superbeings. They are frail, limited individuals far from home”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:4866-4950 opinion first hand
836
Some abductees taken by the visitors were told that they would remember nothing for five years, or until 1984, or in a few years.
“More than one of those taken were told that he or she would remember nothing "for five years," or "until 1984," or "in a few years."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:5579-5704 hearsay second hand
837
Whitley Strieber has a friend who sat in a Native American medicine circle within hearing distance of a hissing interstate highway and heard the emptiness in the old chants, the sadness where conviction once rang.
“A friend of mine sat in a Native American medicine circle within hearing distance of a hissing interstate highway — and he heard the emptiness in the old chants, the sadness where conviction once rang.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:5986-6182 hearsay second hand
838
No new stories are being woven in Papua New Guinea.
“And no new stories are being woven in Papua, New Guinea.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:6188-6237 opinion first hand
839
Whitley Strieber compares the streets of Papua New Guinea to becoming a ramshackle version of Lansing, Michigan.
“The streets are becoming a ramshackle version of Lansing, Michigan.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:6245-6303 opinion first hand
840
Two triangles were inscribed on Whitley Strieber's arm.
“Maybe that is why two triangles were inscribed on my arm: to symbolize that we are each a tiny, complete universe”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:6909-7014 observation first hand
841
A visitor once said to an abductee, "On is off and of is on. We confuse the language."
“A visitor once said to an abductee, "On is off and of is on. We confuse the language."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:7370-7446 hearsay second hand
842
David M. Jacobs of Temple University recounted a story of a woman in Philadelphia who saw a flying disk across the street from her house, which came closer as soon as she looked at it.
“Dr. David M. Jacobs of Temple University recounts a fascinating story of a woman in Philadelphia who once saw a flying disk across the street from her house. As soon as she looked at it, it came closer.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:7790-7985 hearsay second hand
843
In the account recounted by David M. Jacobs, the woman beheld a row of nine windows on the flying disk, with a man holding a cigar motionless in one window and a woman in a flowered dress sitting in a trance in the next.
“She beheld a row of nine windows. In one window stood a man with a cigar in his mouth, staring out. He was as motionless as a statue. The next window revealed a woman in a flowered dress sitting in a chair, also in some sort of trance.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:7993-8221 hearsay second hand
844
In the account recounted by David M. Jacobs, three small gray beings came past the windows of the flying disk and conducted the entranced woman from her chair and off down a corridor.
“Three of the small gray beings then came past the other windows and conducted the entranced woman from the chair and off down a corridor.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:8229-8357 hearsay second hand
845
The woman who reported the Philadelphia flying disk sighting was not a UFO enthusiast or psychotic, but an ordinary person who neither sought nor received fame or money.
“The woman who saw this was not a "saucer nut," not a psychotic, but rather an ordinary person. She neither sought nor received fame or money.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:8368-8503 opinion first hand
846
At the moment of highest absurdity in his experience, when he was called their chosen one, Whitley Strieber had a distinct memory of seeing the visitors getting a woman in a flowered dress excited with a similar speech.
“At the moment of highest absurdity and intensity in my experience, when I was called their chosen one, I had a distinct memory of seeing them getting a woman in a flowered dress very excited with a similar speech.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:8641-8847 testimony first hand
847
In August 1986, at around 9:30pm, a man had an experience while driving toward Great Neck, Long Island, on the Grand Central Parkway, under an overcast sky with a ceiling of approximately 900 metres.
“In August 1986 a man had a remarkable experience while driving toward Great Neck, Long Island, on the Grand Central Parkway. It was 9:30 P.m., and the sky was overcast, with a three-thousand-foot ceiling.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:9035-9231 testimony second hand
848
The man in the Great Neck sighting saw an enormous airplane coming toward him so low that it looked like it was about to land on the parkway, with two bright lights in the nose shining into his eyes.
“The man suddenly saw an enormous airplane coming toward him so low that it looked like it was about to land on the parkway. It had two bright lights in the nose, lights that seemed to shine beams directly into his eyes.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:9240-9454 testimony second hand
849
The craft in the Great Neck sighting had a red light at the tip of one wing and a green light at the tip of the other.
“There was a red light at the tip of one wing and a green one at the tip of the other”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:9460-9539 testimony second hand
850
As the man passed under the Great Neck craft, he saw rivets on its undersurface, which was streaked as if it had scraped along the ground.
“As he passed under the plane he looked up and saw that there were rivets in the undersurface, which was streaked as if it had scraped along the ground.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:9545-9689 testimony second hand
851
The man saw four engine pods with whirling propellers on the Great Neck craft, which had a flat nose and no horizontal stabilizer.
“He saw four engine pods with whirling propellers. The nose of the plane was flat and there was no horizontal stabilizer.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:9697-9806 testimony second hand
852
The Great Neck craft seemed almost to be standing still and its propellers made no noise at all.
“It seemed almost to be standing still, and the propellers made no noise at all.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch15:9907-9982 testimony second hand
853
Dr. Donald Klein found that Whitley Strieber is not hallucinating in a manner characteristic of psychosis.
“He is not hallucinating in a manner characteristic of psychosis.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch16:183-237 testimony first hand
854
Dr. Donald Klein found no evidence of an anxiety state, mood disorder, or personality disorder in Whitley Strieber.
“I also see no evidence of an anxiety state, mood disorder, or personality disorder.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch16:248-322 testimony first hand
855
Dr. Donald Klein considers Whitley Strieber an excellent hypnotic subject who appeared to make an honest attempt while under hypnosis to describe what he remembered.
“He is an excellent hypnotic subject, who appeared to make an honest attempt while under hypnosis to describe what he remembered.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch16:332-449 opinion first hand
856
Dr. Donald Klein observed that Whitley Strieber approached the dilemma of what was happening to him in a careful and forthright way and pursued his investigation with diligence.
“He has approached the dilemma of what is happening to him in a careful and forthright way and has pursued his investigation with diligence.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch16:462-591 opinion first hand
857
Dr. Donald Klein observed that after an initial period of stress, Whitley Strieber became much more calm about his situation and learned to deal with it in a psychologically healthy way.
“After an initial period of stress, he became much more calm about his situation and soon learned to deal with it in a psychologically healthy way.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch16:602-744 opinion first hand
858
Dr. Donald Klein considers Whitley Strieber to have adapted very well to life at a high level of uncertainty.
“He appears to me to have adapted very well to life at a high level of uncertainty.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch16:749-819 opinion first hand
859
Dr. Donald Klein examined Whitley Strieber and found he is not suffering from a psychosis.
“I have examined Whitley Strieber and found that he is not suffering from a psychosis.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch16:97-172 testimony first hand
860
Whitley Strieber underwent the polygraph examination to reassure readers that he sincerely believes he perceived the events reported in Communion, and states that the book is not fiction and contains no fictional content.
“The reason I carried out the polygraph was to reassure readers that I honestly think that I perceived the things reported in this book. It is not fiction, and does not contain a word of fiction.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:1064-1250 opinion first hand
861
Whitley Strieber states that his successful completion of the polygraph test does not prove his recollection of his experiences is correct, but confirms that he described what he saw to the best of his ability.
“My successful completion of this test in no way proves that my recollection of my experiences is correct, but it does confirm that I have described what I saw to the best of my ability.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:1259-1436 opinion first hand
862
In the polygraph examination, when asked whether he intentionally planned to be given a lie detector test on Halloween day, Whitley Strieber answered no, which was evaluated as true.
“3. Did you intentionally plan to be given a lie detector test on this Halloween day? No. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:1589-1669 testimony first hand
863
Ned Laurendi suspected he might be the victim of a practical joke when polygraphing Whitley Strieber, given the coincidence that the test fell on Halloween and the unusual nature of Strieber's experiences.
“Mr. Laurendi suspected that he might be the victim of a practical joke, an understandable response in view of the coincidence of date and the nature of my experience.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:1682-1837 observation first hand
864
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber answered that he does not belong to any cults, and this was evaluated as true.
“4. Do you belong to any cults? No. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:1874-1921 testimony first hand
865
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber affirmed his belief that the events he described occurred to him on October 4, 1985, as outlined in his October 17, 1986 letter to Ned Laurendi, and this was evaluated as true.
“5. Do you think that those things happened to you on October 4, 1985, that were outlined in your letter dated October 17, 1986? Yes. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:1929-2074 testimony first hand
866
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber answered that he never fraudulently concealed any information prior to 1984, and this was evaluated as true.
“6. Did you ever fraudulently conceal any information prior to 1984? No. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:2082-2166 testimony first hand
867
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber affirmed his belief that the events he described occurred to him on December 26, 1985, as outlined in his October 17, 1986 letter to Ned Laurendi, and this was evaluated as true.
“7. Do you think those things happened to you on December 26, 1985, as outlined in your letter dated October 17, 1986? Yes. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:2174-2309 testimony first hand
868
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber answered that, besides once when he was eight years old, he never hallucinated again prior to 1984, and this was evaluated as true.
“8. Besides when you were eight years old, did you ever hallucinate again prior to 1984? No. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:2317-2399 testimony first hand
869
Whitley Strieber had a hallucination during a fever when he was eight years old.
“I had a hallucination during a fever when I was eight.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:2413-2461 testimony first hand
870
Ned Laurendi has been a polygraph operator for twenty-five years.
“He has been a polygraph operator for twenty-five years.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:249-298 administrative first hand
871
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber confirmed that he lives in New York, and this was evaluated as true.
“9. Do you live in New York? Yes. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:2492-2537 testimony first hand
872
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber affirmed his belief that the events he described occurred to him on March 15, 1986, as outlined in his October 17, 1986 letter to Ned Laurendi, and this was evaluated as true.
“10. Do you think those things happened to you on March 15, 1986, as outlined in your letter dated October 17, 1986? Yes. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:2545-2678 testimony first hand
873
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber answered that he never lied for personal gain prior to 1984, and this was evaluated as true.
“11. Did you ever lie for personal gain prior to 1984? No. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:2686-2756 testimony first hand
874
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber affirmed his belief that the events he described, referring to the intrusion of a needle into his nose and his subsequent visit to a doctor to have the injury examined, occurred to him in late March 1986 as outlined in his October 17, 1986 letter to Ned Laurendi, and this was evaluated as true.
“12. Do you think those things happened to you in late March 1986 as outlined in your letter dated October 17, 1986? (This referred to the intrusion of the needle into my nose and my visit to the doctor to have the injury examined.) Yes. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:2764-3012 testimony first hand
875
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber answered that he never lied to anyone in a business venture prior to 1984, and this response was evaluated as possibly untrue.
“13. Did you ever lie to anyone in a business venture prior to 1984? No. (Evaluated as possibly untrue.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:3020-3116 testimony first hand
876
Ned Laurendi was paid in the normal course of business before conducting the polygraph examination of Whitley Strieber, and was not previously familiar with Whitley Strieber.
“He was paid in the normal course of business before the polygraph was undertaken, and was not familiar with me before the test.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:305-427 administrative first hand
877
Whitley Strieber notes that this evaluation of possible untruth on the business-lying control question was a correct response, since he had been in business for twenty years and was not certain he had never lied occasionally in that context.
“A correct response. I've been in business for twenty years and I'm not sure I haven't lied occasionally.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:3124-3215 opinion first hand
878
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber answered that he had not lied to people who interviewed him with respect to the tour items discussed, and this was evaluated as true.
“Have you lied to those people who interviewed you with respect to the tour items we discussed? No. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:3234-3345 testimony first hand
879
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber confirmed that he is a free-lance writer, and this was evaluated as true.
“15. Are you a free-lance writer? Yes. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:3353-3403 administrative first hand
880
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber answered that he never lied to someone who trusted him prior to 1984, and this response was evaluated as false.
“16. Did you ever lie to someone that trusted you prior to 1984? No. (Evaluated false.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:3411-3491 testimony first hand
881
Whitley Strieber states that he lied to his parents when they asked him if he knew what could have burned down the house when he was a boy, in reference to the 1958 house fire at Mary Strieber's house.
“I lied to my parents, for example, when they asked me if I knew what could have burned the house down when I was a boy.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:3519-3634 testimony first hand
882
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber answered that he had never intentionally ingested any hallucinogenic drug, and this was evaluated as true.
“17. Have you ever intentionally ingested any hallucinogenic drug? No. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:3640-3722 testimony first hand
883
During the polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber answered that he had never taken any prescription medication without a doctor's permission, and this was evaluated as true.
“18. Did you ever take any prescription medication without a doctor's permission? No. (Evaluated true.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:3730-3827 testimony first hand
884
Whitley Strieber notes that some control questions in the polygraph examination were dated 'prior to 1984' to more clearly separate his responses to them from surrounding key questions, and that this was not meant to imply his responses would have differed after 1984.
“Some control questions are dated "prior to 1984" to more clearly separate my responses to them from surrounding key questions. They are not meant to imply that my responses would have been any different after 1984.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:3841-4050 administrative first hand
885
During the October 31, 1986 polygraph examination, Whitley Strieber deliberately lied in his answers to control questions thirteen and sixteen, without telling Ned Laurendi, as a test of Ned Laurendi's effectiveness.
“Without telling him, I lied in my answers to control questions thirteen and sixteen.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:578-654 testimony first hand
886
Ned Laurendi correctly detected that Whitley Strieber was lying on both control questions thirteen and sixteen during the October 31, 1986 polygraph examination.
“In both cases, he detected the lie correctly.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:663-698 observation first hand
887
Whitley Strieber considers Ned Laurendi very skilled at lie detection, based on Laurendi's correct detection of the planted lies and his leading position in the polygraphy field, despite the general controversies surrounding lie detection.
“His ability to do this — along with his leading position in his field — has convinced me that, despite the controversies surrounding lie detection in general, he is very skilled indeed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:709-887 opinion first hand
888
On 1986-10-31, Whitley Strieber was polygraphed by Ned Laurendi, president of the Society of Professional Investigators and vice-president of the Empire State Polygraph Society.
“On October 31. 1986, I was polygraphed by Ned Laurendi, president of the Society of Professional investigators and vice-president of the Empire State Polygraph Society.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:80-240 administrative first hand
889
Whitley Strieber wrote a letter to Ned Laurendi on 1986-10-17 that outlined the part of his experiences that he remembered before hypnosis.
“The letter referred to in the test results was written to Mr. Laurendi on October 17, 1986, and outlined the part of my experiences that I remembered before hypnosis.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch17:896-1053 administrative first hand
890
On 1985-12-26, Whitley Strieber ate Christmas dinner leftovers and went to bed early.
“ate Christmas dinner leftovers, and went to bed early”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch3:117-165 observation first hand
891
Six hours after going to bed on 1985-12-26, Whitley Strieber found himself suddenly awake and forever changed.
“Six hours later, he found himself suddenly awake... and forever changed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch3:173-237 observation first hand
892
On 1985-12-26, Whitley Strieber was staying at a secluded cabin in upstate New York with his wife and son.
“On December 26, 1985, at a secluded cabin in upstate New York, Whitley Strieber went skiing with his wife and son, ate Christmas dinner leftovers, and went to bed early.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch3:2-165 observation first hand
893
On 1985-12-26, Whitley Strieber went skiing with his wife and son.
“went skiing with his wife and son”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch3:82-112 observation first hand
894
Whitley Strieber found that a large number of other people had reported experiences similar to his own.
“Later I found a large number of people who have had experiences similar to mine.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:1158-1233 testimony first hand
895
Whitley Strieber considers most people reporting encounters with the visitors to be mentally stable, forming a cross section of American society rather than clustering in any particular population group.
“Most of them were mentally stable. They did not cluster in any particular population group, but formed a cross section of American society.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:1239-1370 opinion first hand
896
Whitley Strieber met a scientist, a policeman, and a federal officer, among others, who reported encounters with the visitors.
“I have met, among many others, a scientist, a policeman, and a federal officer who have had encounters.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:1379-1471 testimony first hand
897
Whitley Strieber's case involved witnesses and physical aftereffects.
“In my case there were witnesses, and physical aftereffects that are hard to ignore.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:1484-1560 testimony first hand
898
Whitley Strieber states that what happened to him was not presently understood by science, whether the visitors are actually present or the human mind is creating something close to physical reality.
“Either what is happening is that visitors are actually here, or the u man mind is creating something that, incredibly, is close to a physical reality. Whatever it is, it is not presently understood by science.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:1568-1769 opinion first hand
899
Whitley Strieber states that Communion is a true story as far as he knows how to describe it.
“It is a true story, as true as I know how to describe it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:179-233 testimony first hand
900
Whitley Strieber states that seeming encounters with nonhuman beings are not new and have a history dating back thousands of years.
“Seeming encounters with nonhuman beings are not new; they have a history dating back thousands of years.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:2044-2142 opinion first hand
901
Whitley Strieber considers that, in the latter part of the twentieth century, encounters with nonhuman beings have taken on an intensity never before experienced by humankind.
“What is new, in this latter part of the twentieth century, is that the encounters have taken on an intensity never before experienced by humankind.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:2149-2286 opinion first hand
902
Whitley Strieber found what happened to him terrifying and experienced it as completely real, retained in clear, normal memory, with most of it already present in his mind before he was hypnotised to aid recall.
“What happened to me was terrifying. It seemed completely real. It was in clear, normal memory. Most of it was already present in my mind before I was hypnotized to aid recall.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:2298-2466 testimony first hand
903
Whitley Strieber had what appeared to be an elaborate personal encounter with intelligent nonhuman beings.
“To all appearances I have had an elaborate personal encounter with intelligent nonhuman beings.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:238-326 testimony first hand
904
Whitley Strieber states that it has been falsely claimed that the memories of people taken by the visitors are a side effect of hypnosis.
“It has been falsely claimed that their memories are a side effect of hypnosis. This is not true.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:2564-2655 opinion first hand
905
Whitley Strieber states that most people reporting encounters with the visitors started with memories and undertook hypnosis to attempt greater recall, rather than hypnosis producing the memories.
“Most of them started with memories and undertook hypnosis to attempt greater recall.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:2662-2739 opinion first hand
906
Whitley Strieber compares scoffing at people who report visitor encounters to laughing at rape victims.
“Scoffing at them is as ugly as laughing at rape victims.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:2748-2796 opinion first hand
907
Whitley Strieber states that whatever is happening to people who report visitor encounters causes them to react as if they have suffered a great personal trauma.
“We do not know what is happening to these people, but whatever it is, it causes them to react as if they have suffered a great personal trauma.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:2805-2941 opinion first hand
908
Whitley Strieber considers that society turns away from people reporting visitor encounters, led by vociferous professional debunkers whose secret fears apparently close their minds.
“And society turns away, led by vociferous professional debunkers whose secret fears apparently close their minds.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:2949-3056 opinion first hand
909
Whitley Strieber notes that more responsible scientists are legitimately concerned that serious pursuit of an answer to the enigma of unidentified aerial objects and possible visitors may lead science into study of a false unknown.
“Other, more responsible scientists are very legitimately concerned that serious pursuit of an answer to the enigma of unidentified aerial objects and possible visitors may lead science into study of a false unknown.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:3063-3270 opinion first hand
910
Whitley Strieber considers that, from a behavioural point of view, the phenomenon he describes can no longer be considered a false unknown, and that intellectually well-grounded people need not shun it.
“At least from a behavioral point of view, however, this can no longer be considered a false unknown. Something is happening, and intellectually well-grounded people need not shun it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:3280-3459 opinion first hand
911
Whitley Strieber suffered as a result of his experience with the visitors, and states that others suffered and are still suffering.
“I suffered with this experience. Others suffered, and are still suffering.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:3719-3783 testimony first hand
912
Whitley Strieber admits that he himself scoffed at people reporting visitor encounters in the past, at least vicariously, and was formerly a skeptic regarding UFOs.
“I am ashamed to say that I have done it myself, in the past, at least vicariously. As far as "UFOs" went, I was with the skeptics.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:3898-4020 testimony first hand
913
Whitley Strieber's office windows have two high arches through which the night sky over Manhattan is visible.
“I look up toward the night sky, visible through two high arches above my office windows. Almost all the way to the top of the arches the clouds glow with Manhattan's light.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:4031-4198 observation first hand
914
Whitley Strieber describes people who report encountering the visitors as reporting fierce little figures with eyes that seem to stare into the deepest core of being.
“People who face the visitors report fierce little figures with eyes that seem to stare into the deepest core of being.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:4406-4518 opinion first hand
915
Whitley Strieber considers that whatever the visitors seek is more than simple information, and that it seeks the very depth of the soul, seeking communion.
“Whatever it is, it is more than simple information. The goal does not seem to be the sort of clear and open exchange that we might expect. Whatever may be surfacing, it wants far more than that. It seems to me that it seeks the very depth of the soul; it seeks communion.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:4594-4855 opinion first hand
916
Whitley Strieber was interviewed by three psychologists and three psychiatrists regarding his experiences.
“I was interviewed by three psychologists and three psychiatrists, given a battery of psychological tests and a neurological examination, and found to fall within the normal range in all respects.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:520-707 testimony first hand
917
Whitley Strieber was given a battery of psychological tests and a neurological examination, and was found to fall within the normal range in all respects.
“given a battery of psychological tests and- a neurological examination, and found to fall within the normal range in all respects”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:586-707 measurement first hand
918
Whitley Strieber was given a polygraph examination by an operator with thirty years' experience and passed without qualification.
“I was also given a polygraph by an operator with thirty years' experience and I passed without qualification.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:717-812 measurement first hand
919
Before his experiences, Whitley Strieber had been indifferent to the issue of unidentified flying objects (UFO) and extraterrestrials, viewing them as a false unknown easily explainable as misperceptions or hallucinations.
“I had been indifferent to the whole issue of unidentified flying objects and extraterrestrials; I had viewed them as a false unknown, easily explainable as misperceptions or hallucinations.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:827-1001 opinion first hand
920
Whitley Strieber describes Communion as the story of one man's attempt to deal with a shattering assault from the unknown.
“This is the story of one man's attempt to deal with a shattering assault from the unknown.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:87-169 administrative first hand
921
A careful investigation with a shotgun after the July 1985 footsteps incident uncovered nothing, and Whitley Strieber even considered that the intruder might have jumped onto the roof, but found nobody there.
“A careful investigation, shotgun in hand, uncovered nothing... At the time I even entertained the notion that they must have jumped onto the roof. but there was nobody there.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:10140-10340 observation first hand
922
Following the July 1985 footsteps incident, the motion-sensitive light at the cabin never worked right again, despite functioning properly earlier that same evening; Whitley Strieber removed the bulbs in September, and the unit was replaced later in the fall.
“Subsequently the light never worked right, although it was in good order earlier that very evening. In September I took the bulbs out. Later in the fall the unit was replaced.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:10379-10545 observation first hand
923
Whitley Strieber reconstructed the events of the night of October 4, 1985 with help from discussions with other people who had been in the cabin at the time.
“but it took discussions with the other people who had been in the cabin at the time to help me reconstruct it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:1045-1152 testimony first hand
924
During the December 26, 1985 experience, after the figure rushed into the room, Whitley Strieber's next conscious recollection was of being in motion, naked, with arms and legs extended as if frozen in mid-leap, moving out of the room with no physical sensation and in a state of apparent paralysis.
“My next conscious recollection is of being in motion. I was naked, with my arms and legs extended. as if I had been frozen iii mid-leap. I was moving out of the room. There was no physical sensation at all, not of being touched... It was as if I had become profoundly paralyzed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:10781-11037 observation first hand
925
Whitley Strieber recalls events of the December 26, 1985 abduction experience from journal material written before undergoing any hypnosis or discussing his situation with anyone.
“This part of my narrative, covering December 26, is derived from journal material I had written before undergoing any hypnosis or even discussing my situation with anybody.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:1157-1321 administrative first hand
926
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber next found himself sitting in a small depression in the woods, in the dark, surrounded by frozen creeper, with no snow on the gray earth despite snow being on the ground earlier.
“The next thing I knew, I was sitting in a small sort of depression in the woods. It was quite dark, and frozen creeper was pressing tightly around me. I remember being startled that there was no snow on the gray earth.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:11754-11966 observation first hand
927
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber saw a small individual to his left wearing a gray-tan body suit, sitting with knees drawn up and hands clasped, with two dark eyeholes and a round mouth hole suggesting a face mask.
“Across the depression to my left there was a small individual whom I could see only out of the corner of my eye. This person was wearing a gray-tan body suit and sitting on the ground with knees drawn up and hands clasped around them. There were two dark eyeholes and a round mouth hole. I had the impression of a face mask.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:12147-12466 observation first hand
928
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber felt he was under exact and detailed control by whoever held him, unable to move his head, hands, or any body part except his eyes, despite not being physically tied.
“I felt that I was under the exact and detailed control of whomever had me. I could not move my head, or my hands, or any part of my body save for my eyes. Despite this, I was not tied.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:12473-12652 observation first hand
929
During the December 26, 1985 experience, a second figure to Whitley Strieber's right, mostly invisible except for occasional flashes of movement, wore dark-blue coveralls and worked rapidly on the right side of his head.
“Immediately on my right was another figure, this one completely invisible, except for an occasional flash of movement. This person was working busily at something that seemed to have to do with the right side of my head. It wore dark-blue coveralls and was extremely fast.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:12659-12926 observation first hand
930
Whitley Strieber estimated the depression in the woods where he sat during the December 26, 1985 experience was no more than about 1.2 metres in diameter.
“The depression appeared to be no more than four feet in diameter, but my eyes were not functioning normally-maybe for no other reason than that I wasn't wearing my glasses.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:12933-13097 measurement first hand
931
Whitley Strieber is mildly nearsighted and was not wearing his glasses during the December 26, 1985 experience.
“maybe for no other reason than that I wasn't wearing my glasses. (I am mildly nearsighted.)”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:13041-13119 administrative first hand
932
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber had a distinct feeling that the small individual to his left was a woman, though he was unsure why.
“I do not know why, but I had the distinct feeling that this was a woman, and so I shall refer to her in the feminine.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:13239-13347 observation first hand
933
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber then saw branches and treetops moving past his face and observed the forest below him corkscrewing slowly to the right, followed by a gray floor closing below his feet like a closing iris.
“I then saw branches moving past my face, then a sweep of treetops. I looked down, and below me the whole tall forest was corkscrewing slowly to the right... Then a gray floor obscured my vision, slipping below my feet like an iris closing.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:13521-13797 observation first hand
934
The Striebers' cabin is part of a small group of cabins served by a private dirt road branching off a little-used country road leading to an old, largely unmapped town.
“Our cabin is very hidden and quiet, part of a small group of cabins scattered across an area served by a private dirt road, which itself branches off a little-used country road that leads to an old town that isn't even mentioned on many maps.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:1376-1613 observation first hand
935
Whitley Strieber describes the round room he was taken to during the December 26, 1985 experience as having a domed, tan ceiling with ribs appearing at roughly 30-centimetre intervals.
“The small, circular chamber had a domed, Mish-tan ceiling with ribs appearing at intervals of about a foot.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:15099-15201 observation first hand
936
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber saw clothing thrown on the floor of the round room and thought the space seemed dirty, small, tight, enclosed, stuffy, and dry.
“Across the room to my right some clothing was thrown on the floor. As a matter of fact, the thought even crossed my mind that the place was actually dirty... I seem to remember that the room was stuffy and the air quite dry.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:15262-15540 observation first hand
937
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber saw many small beings moving around him at great speed inside the round room, and felt a strong sense of being trapped and helpless.
“Tiny, people were now moving around me at great speed. Their quickness was disturbing, and in a curious way ugly.... An acute, gnawing feeling of being in a trap overcame me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:15634-15839 observation first hand
938
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber found himself seated on a bench leaning against a wall in the round room, with predominant tan and gray colours, the bench rimmed by a lip of dark brown.
“I know that I was seated on a bench, leaning against a wall. The predominant colors were tan and gray. The bench was the same color as the walls, and was rimmed by a lip of dark brown.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:16078-16256 observation first hand
939
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber spend more than half of their time at the cabin because Whitley Strieber does most of his work there.
“We spend more than half of our time at the cabin, because I do most of my work there.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:1619-1698 observation first hand
940
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber recalled something beautiful involving a lens in the ceiling of the round room, through which a colourful scene might have been observed.
“There was something quite beautiful, I think, having to do with a lens m the ceiling, but I can remember little about it. Perhaps there was a lens at the point of the ceiling, through which some colorful scene could be observed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:16405-16624 observation first hand
941
Whitley Strieber's memories of his time in the round room during the December 26, 1985 experience are indistinct and covered by amnesia, which he attributes possibly to terror amnesia, drugs, hypnosis, or a combination of all three.
“I was so scared that my memories are indistinct and covered by amnesia... This might be terror amnesia, or drugs, or hypnosis, or even doses of all three.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:16975-17047 opinion first hand
942
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber also have an apartment in New York City.
“We also have an apartment in New York City.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:1705-1743 administrative first hand
943
Whitley Strieber suggests the drug tetrodotoxin could approximate the amnesia-like state he experienced, noting small doses cause external anaesthesia, larger doses produce an 'out of the body' sensation reported by abduction victims, and greater quantities can cause an appearance of death with undetectable brain function.
“There is one drug, tetradotoxin, which could approximate such a state. In small doses it causes external anesthesia. Larger doses bring about the "out of the body" sensation occasionally reported by victims of visitor abduction. Greater quantities can cause the appearance of death-even the brain ceases detectable function.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:17218-17533 opinion first hand
944
Tetrodotoxin is the core of the zombie poison of Haiti and the notorious fugu poison of Japan, found in the tissues of a blowfish considered an esteemed but deadly aphrodisiac.
“This rare drug is the core of the zombie poison of Haiti, and little is known about why it works as it does. It is also the notorious "fugu" poison of Japan, found in the tissues of a blowfish, which is an esteemed if deadly aphrodisiac.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:17544-17769 observation
945
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber rarely drink more than wine and neither has ever used drugs.
“we rarely drink more than wine, and neither of us has ever used drugs.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:1800-1864 observation first hand
946
From 1977 until 1983, Whitley Strieber wrote imaginative thrillers.
“From 1977 until 1983 I wrote imaginative thrillers,”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:1871-1912 administrative first hand
947
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber was shown a tiny gray box with a sliding lid and a curved lip, held by a thin, graceful person whose appearance was not distinct.
“The next thing I knew, was being shown a tiny gray box with a sliding lid. There was a curved lip at one end of this box, to make it easy to push it open. It was being held b a thin, graceful person whose appearance was not distinct.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:18711-18935 observation first hand
948
In the years before his December 1985 experiences, Whitley Strieber had shifted to writing more serious fiction about peace and the environment, grounded firmly in fact.
“but in recent years I had been concentrating on much more serious fiction about peace and the environment, books that were firmly grounded in fact.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:1923-2065 administrative first hand
949
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber observed a tiny, squat, crouching being slide open the gray box, revealing an extremely shiny, hair-thin needle mounted on a black surface that glittered when seen out of the corner of the eye but was practically invisible viewed straight on.
“My memory of the one that came before me next is of a tiny, squat person, crouching as if huddled over something. He had been given the box and now slid it open, revealing an extremely shiny, hair-thin needle mounted on a black surface. This needle glittered when I saw it out of the corner of my eye, but was practically invisible straight on.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:19373-19714 observation first hand
950
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber became aware, believing he was told, that the beings proposed to insert the needle into his brain.
“I became aware — I think I was told — that they proposed to insert this into my brain.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:19719-19799 observation first hand
951
During the December 26, 1985 experience, upon learning the needle would be inserted into his brain, Whitley Strieber became crazed with terror and argued with the beings, saying the place was filthy and that they would ruin a beautiful mind.
“I now became quite simply crazed with terror. I argued with them. "This place is filthy," I remember saying. Then, "You'll ruin a beautiful mind.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:19836-19976 observation first hand
952
During the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, one of the beings asked Whitley Strieber what could be done to help him stop screaming, in a voice that was distinctly aural with a subtly electronic tone and a flat, Midwestern-sounding accent.
“One of them, I think it was the one I had identified earlier as the woman, said, "What can we do to help you stop screaming?" This voice was remarkable. It was definitely aural, that is to say, I heard it rather than sensed it. It had a subtly electronic tone to it, the accents flat and startlingly Midwestern.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:20201-20501 observation first hand
953
During the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, Whitley Strieber asked to be allowed to smell one of the beings.
“I heard myself say, "You could let me smell you."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:20539-20583 observation first hand
954
At the time of the December 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber was not working on horror stories and had never been in danger of being deluded by them.
“Thus, at this time in my life, I wasn't even working on horror stories, and at no time had I ever been in danger of being deluded by them.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:2071-2204 testimony first hand
955
During the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, one of the beings held its hand against Whitley Strieber's face so he could smell it, and the odour gave him an anchor to reality that felt completely indistinguishable from a real smell.
“The one to my right replied, "Oh, OK, I can do that," in a similar voice, speaking very rapidly, and held his hand against my face, cradling my head with his other hand. The odor was distinct, and gave me exactly what I needed, an anchor in reality... It did not seem in any way a dream experience or a hallucination. I remembered it as an actual smell.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:20724-21184 observation first hand
956
Whitley Strieber described the smell of the being's hand as having a slight cardboard scent, a faint organic sourness, and a subtle overtone like cinnamon, being unmistakably the smell of something alive but not human.
“There was a slight scent of cardboard to it... The hand itself had a faint but distinctly organic sourness in its odor. It was not a human smell, but it was unmistakably the smell of something alive. There was a subtle overtone that seemed a little like cinnamon.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:21205-21522 observation first hand
957
During the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, Whitley Strieber recalled a bang and a flash and realised an operation had been performed on his head.
“The next thing I knew, there was a bang and- a Hash, and I realized that they had performed the proposed operation on my head.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:21581-21702 observation first hand
958
During the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, Whitley Strieber was taken to a room resembling a small operating theatre where he lay on a table centred among three tiers of benches populated with huddled figures, some with round rather than slanted eyes.
“It appeared to be a small operating theater. I was to the center of it on a table, and three tiers of benches were populated with a few huddled figures, some with round, as opposed to slanted, eyes.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:22064-22257 observation first hand
959
On Christmas Eve 1985 there was snow at the Striebers' cabin, continuing for two more days.
“We were having a lovely Christmas at the cabin in late December 1985. On Christmas Eve there was snow, which continued for two more days.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:2211-2343 observation first hand
960
Whitley Strieber recalled seeing four different types of figures during the December 26, 1985 abduction experience.
“I was aware that I had seen four different types of figures.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:22264-22316 observation first hand
961
The first type of figure Whitley Strieber saw was a small robotlike being that had led the way into his bedroom.
“The first was the small robotlike being that had led the way into my bedroom.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:22325-22394 observation first hand
962
The second type of figure Whitley Strieber saw was a large group of short, stocky beings in dark-blue coveralls with wide faces, appearing dark gray or dark blue, glittering deep-set eyes, pug noses, and broad, somewhat human mouths.
“He was followed by a large group of short, stocky ones in the dark-blue coveralls. These had wide faces, appearing either dark gray or dark blue in that light, with glittering deep-set eyes, pug noses, and broad, somewhat human mouths.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:22403-22631 observation first hand
963
One type of being Whitley Strieber encountered was about 1.5 metres tall, very slender and delicate, with extremely prominent and mesmerising black slanted eyes and an almost vestigial mouth and nose.
“The most provocative of these was about five feet tall, very slender and delicate, with extremely prominent and mesmerizing black slanted eyes. This being had an almost vestigial mouth and nose.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:22724-22913 observation first hand
964
The huddled figures in the operating theatre were somewhat smaller than the slender being, with similarly shaped heads but round, black eyes like large buttons.
“The huddled figures in the theater were somewhat smaller, with similarly shaped heads but round, black eyes like large buttons.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:22919-23038 observation first hand
965
Whitley Strieber observed that the stocky beings were always present throughout the December 26, 1985 abduction experience and were apparently responsible for moving and controlling him, giving him the impression they were a sort of 'good army'.
“Throughout the whole experience, the stocky ones were always present. They were apparently responsible for moving and controlling me, and I had the distinct impression that they were a sort of "good army."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:23048-23247 opinion first hand
966
Whitley Strieber does not remember what, if anything, happened to him in the operating theatre during the December 26, 1985 abduction experience.
“I do not remember what, if anything, happened in the operating theater.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:23279-23342 observation first hand
967
During the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, two of the stocky beings drew Whitley Strieber's legs apart and inserted a long, gray, scaly, triangular object with a network of wires, at least a foot in length, into his rectum, which felt as if it had a life of its own and made him feel he was being raped.
“There were clothes strewn about, and two of the stocky ones drew my legs apart. The next thing I knew l was being shown an enormous and extremely ugly object, gray and scaly, with a sort of network of wires on the end. It was at least a foot long narrow. and triangular in structure. They inserted this thin into my rectum. It seemed to swarm into me as if it had a life of its own... at the time I had the impression that I was being raped, and for the first time I felt anger.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:23735-24279 observation first hand
968
Whitley Strieber believed the purpose of the rectal probe device during the December 26, 1985 abduction experience was possibly to take samples of fecal matter.
“Apparently its purpose was to take samples, possibly of fecal matter”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:24118-24180 opinion first hand
969
When the probe device was withdrawn during the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, Whitley Strieber saw it was a mechanical device, and the being holding it pointed to a wire cage on its tip as if warning him about something.
“Only when the thing was withdrawn did I see that it was a mechanical device. The individual holding it pointed to the wire cafe on the tip and seemed to warn . me about something.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:24287-24456 observation first hand
970
During the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, one of the beings made a painless incision on Whitley Strieber's right forefinger, after which his memories of the event end abruptly.
“One of them took my right hand and made an incision on my forefinger. There was no pain at all. Abruptly, my memories end.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:24545-24663 observation first hand
971
Whitley Strieber woke on the morning of December 27 with a distinct sense of unease and an intense but improbable memory of seeing a barn owl staring at him through the window during the night.
“I awoke the morning of the twenty-seventh very much as usual, but grappling with a distinct sense of unease and a very improbable but intense memory of seeing a barn owl staring at me through the window sometime during the night.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:24759-24982 observation first hand
972
On December 26, 1985, the Strieber family spent the morning breaking in a new sled and went cross-country skiing in the afternoon.
“On December 26 we spent a happy morning breaking in his new sled, then went cross-country skiing in the afternoon.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:2494-2598 observation first hand
973
On the evening of December 27, 1985, Whitley Strieber looked out onto the roof and saw there were no owl tracks in the snow, and concluded he had not actually seen an owl.
“I remember how I felt in the gathering evening of the twenty-seventh, when I looked out onto the roof and saw that there were no owl tracks in the snow. I knew I had not seen an owl.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:24990-25168 observation first hand
974
Whitley Strieber later concluded that memories of animals in strange places are a common screen memory that blocks recall of abduction experiences by the visitors.
“Later I discovered that memories of animals in strange places are a common block to this experience.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:25694-25783 opinion first hand
975
A young woman arrived back at a picnic in the woods in France with a story of seeing a beautiful deer, but had blood on her blouse and an unexplained straight scar; ten years passed before she remembered the truth of the experience.
“One young woman arrived back at a picnic in the woods in France with a story of seeing a beautiful deer. But she had blood on her blouse, and a strange straight scar that could not be explained. Ten years passed before she remembered anything of the truth of her experience in those woods, and she would have died with that memory had not her memory of another encounter with the visitors caused her to question its real significance.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:25795-26216 hearsay second hand
976
On the evening of December 26, 1985, the Striebers had leftover Christmas goose, cranberry sauce, cold sweet potatoes, and seltzer with fresh lime for supper.
“For supper we had leftover Christmas goose, cranberry sauce, and cold sweet potatoes. We drank seltzer with fresh lime in it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:2609-2731 observation first hand
977
Another man came away from an abduction experience thinking only that he had seen a bunch of rabbits hopping around outside his car.
“Another man came away from his experience thinking only that he had seen a bunch of rabbits hopping around outside his car.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:26230-26349 hearsay second hand
978
Anne Strieber noticed a dramatic personality change in Whitley Strieber from December 27, 1985, similar to a change that had occurred the previous October.
“From that first day my wife noticed a dramatic personality change in me, which she thought was similar to a change that had taken place the previous October.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:26594-26743 observation second hand
979
On the evening of December 27, 1985, after an afternoon of light cross-country skiing, Whitley Strieber felt unusually exhausted, got chills, and went to bed, despite normally feeling relaxed after such exercise.
“That first evening I underwent the initial physical symptom of my ordeal. We had come in from an afternoon of light cross-country skiing, not at all strenuous. I was dead tired... I got chills and went to bed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:26967-27154 observation first hand
980
After their son went to bed on December 26, 1985, Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber sat quietly listening to music and reading.
“After our son went to bed, Anne and I sat quietly together listening to some music and reading.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:2735-2822 observation first hand
981
On the night of December 27, 1985, at about three in the morning, Whitley Strieber believed he had seen the light of a snowmobile in the woods between his and his neighbours' houses, though he could not recall the memory and knew it was not true.
“No sooner had we started talking than I found myself complaining that I thought I had seen the light of a snowmobile m the woods between our houses at about three in the morning. I was horrified at myself. What was I saying? I couldn't remember any such thing, and I knew it even as I spoke.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:27890-28175 observation first hand
982
At about eight-thirty on the night of December 26, 1985, Whitley Strieber turned on the burglar alarm covering every accessible window and door of the cabin.
“At about eight-thirty I turned on the burglar alarm, which covers every accessible window and all the doors.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:2832-2934 observation first hand
983
Anne Strieber reported that Whitley Strieber's personality deteriorated dramatically over the weeks following December 26, 1985, becoming hypersensitive, easily confused, and short with his son.
“My wife reports that my personality deteriorated dramatically over the following weeks. I became hypersensitive, easily confused, and, worst of all, short with my son.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:29004-29167 observation second hand
984
During the fall preceding December 1985, Whitley Strieber had developed an unusual habit of secretly touring the house each night, peering into closets and looking under the guest-room bed for hidden intruders.
“For no reason then apparent, I had developed an unusual habit the previous fall. As secretly as ever I made a tour of the house, peering in closets and even looking under the guest-room bed for hidden intruders.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:2941-3142 observation first hand
985
Whitley Strieber identified the owl and light memories as screen memories, a Freudian concept describing a method the mind uses to shield itself from things too upsetting to recall.
“I did not know that the owl and the light were screen memories that concealed a traumatic experience. As described by Freud, the screen memory is a method that the mind uses to shield itself from things too upsetting to recall.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:29758-29978 opinion first hand
986
By December 28, 1985, Whitley Strieber was so depressed and in a state of inner conflict that he wrote a short story to explore his emotions.
“By December 28 I was so depressed and in such a state of inner conflict that I sat down and wrote a short story in an effort to explore my emotions.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:30096-30235 observation first hand
987
Whitley Strieber titled the short story he wrote on December 28, 1985 "Pain," and it was the last sustained writing he did for seven weeks before hidden memories began emerging from his unconscious.
“I called it "Pain." It was to be the last sustained writing I would do for seven weeks, and is the last thing I wrote before these enormous hidden truths began emerging from my unconscious.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:30345-30522 administrative first hand
988
Prior to December 26, 1985, Whitley Strieber had been making good progress on a huge two-volume novel based on the relationship between Russia and America at the outset of the Russian Revolution, but afterward could hardly read his own work.
“Previous to the twenty-sixth I had made good progress on a huge two-volume novel based on the relationship between Russia and America at the outset of the Russian Revolution. Now I could hardly read my own work, let alone continue working on this complicated project.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:30711-30970 observation first hand
989
The short story "Pain" is about a man who encounters an enigmatic woman named Janet, who proves to be a superhuman being, perhaps an angel or demon, who draws him into a strange experience of capture and incarceration in a tiny magical cabinet, from which he gains immense insight and new spiritual strength.
“It is about a man who encounters an enigmatic woman named Janet, who proves to be some sort of superhuman being, perhaps an angel or a demon. She draws this man into a strange experience of capture and incarceration in a tiny, magical cabinet. From the agony that ensues, he gains immense insight and new spiritual strength.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:31118-31433 administrative first hand
990
Whitley Strieber considered that the visitors could be seen as embodied in the Wolfen, in Miriam Blaylock from The Hunger, and in the fairy queen Leannan and her soldiers from Catmagic, all continuing imagery present in his early horror novels.
“The visitors could be seen as the Wolfen, as Miriam Blaylock in *The Hunger*, and as the fairy queen Leannan and her soldiers in *Catmagic*.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:31564-31694 opinion first hand
991
By ten o'clock on the night of December 26, 1985, Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber were in bed, and by eleven o'clock both were asleep.
“By ten o'clock we were in bed, and by eleven both of us were asleep.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:3201-3262 observation first hand
992
An infection appeared on Whitley Strieber's right forefinger resembling a splinter injury that he could not remember getting, which festered and did not respond to iodine or antibiotic ointment.
“An infection appeared on my right forefinger. It looked like a splinter injury, but I could not remember getting a splinter, unless it was from some log I carried in for the stove. The injury festered. Neither iodine nor antibiotic ointment seemed to help.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:32016-32267 observation first hand
993
Whitley Strieber noticed rectal pain, a symptom he found disturbing, along with a vague feeling that something distressful had happened to him without a clear memory of it.
“I noticed that I was uncomfortable sitting because of rectal pain, a weird and disturbing symptom. I had a vague feeling that something distressful had happened to me, but no clear memory.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:32329-32510 observation first hand
994
In the days following December 26, 1985, Whitley Strieber experienced repeated bouts of fatigue in which he would suddenly get cold, start to shake, and become exhausted, believing he was coming down with the flu.
“In the ensuing days, I experienced more bouts of fatigue. I would be working and suddenly I would get cold and start to shake. Then I would feel so exhausted that I could not go on, and crawl into bed quivering and miserable, sure that I was coming down with the flu.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:32519-32782 observation first hand
995
During one of his fatigue episodes, Whitley Strieber measured his temperature at 35.9 degrees Celsius at the outset, 37.1 degrees Celsius at the height of the 'fever', and 36.1 degrees Celsius afterward.
“I took my temperature during one of these experiences and found that it was 96.6 at the outset and 98.8 at the height of the "fever." Afterward it dropped to 97.0”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:32788-32949 measurement first hand
996
Whitley Strieber ceased to dream, had difficulty closing his eyes at night, felt watched, and kept hearing noises in the night during this period.
“I ceased to dream, and sometimes had difficulty closing my eyes. I felt watched, and kept hearing noises m the night.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:33062-33173 observation first hand
997
On the night of December 26, 1985 there were approximately eight inches (about 20 centimetres) of snow on the ground near the cabin, and it was still snowing lightly.
“There were perhaps eight inches of snow on the ground, and it was still fang lightly.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:3322-3399 observation first hand
998
Whitley Strieber's disposition worsened during this period, becoming mercurial, frantic with excitement one moment and in despair the next, and suspicious and openly hostile toward friends and family.
“My disposition got worse. I became mercurial, frantic with excitement about some idea one moment, in despair the next. I was suspicious of friends and family, often openly hostile.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:33257-33429 observation first hand
999
After writing "Pain," Whitley Strieber found he could not sustain attention for more than five or ten minutes at a time, and an attempt to read Gerald's Party by Robert Coover left him profoundly confused, as did his study of sermons by the thirteenth-century mystical philosopher Meister Eckhart.
“After writing "Pain" I found that I could not sustain enough attention to work for more than five or ten minutes at a time. An attempt to read *Gerald's Party* by Robert Coover left me profoundly confused... I had been reading some sermons of the thirteenth-century mystical philosopher Meister Eckhart, but this study had to be abandoned.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:33531-33947 observation first hand
1000
On the afternoon of January 3, 1986, while skiing, Whitley Strieber got a pain behind his right ear similar to the sensation of Novocain wearing off after a dental session, and his wife could see a tiny pinpoint scab in the sensitive area.
“On the afternoon of January 3 we were skiing when I got a pain behind my right ear. It was a sensation similar to what -happens to one's jaw when Novocain wears off after a session in the dentist's chair. My skull ached and the skin was sensitive. In the middle of this sensitive area my wife could see a tiny pinpoint of a scab.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:34130-34454 observation first hand
1001
Whitley Strieber believed the combination of the infected finger, rectal pain, and aching head finally brought his suppressed memories into focus.
“I believe that the combination of the infected finger, the rectal pain, and the aching head were what finally brought my memories into focus.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:34461-34596 opinion first hand
1002
A large unidentified object was reportedly seen in the vicinity of the Striebers' cabin around the same time as the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, but the report of it was not published until about a week later and attributed the sighting to a practical joke.
“There was apparently a large unknown object seen in the immediate vicinity at approximately this time of month, but a report of it would not be published for another week... The report attributed the sightings to a practical joke.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:3460-3701 hearsay
1003
When his memories came into focus, Whitley Strieber thought he might be going mad or might have a brain tumour.
“I thought, quietly and calmly, *You may be going mad, or you may have o brain tumor.*”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:35483-35561 observation first hand
1004
Whitley Strieber recalled the smell of the visitors suddenly one afternoon, and this real memory helped save him from despair by confirming he was not alone with his experience.
“Then, quite suddenly one afternoon, I recalled the smell. Their smell. It came back to me as clearly as if I had inhaled it not a moment before. More than anything except discovering that I was not alone with my experience, that totally real memory saved me from going stark raving mad.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:35787-36069 observation first hand
1005
According to the Middletown, New York Record story, local witnesses doubted the sighting was a hoax, and one man claimed he had seen the objects fly over a brightly lit local prison and identified them as planes in the light.
“according to the story local people who had witnessed the event doubted that. One man, however claimed that he had seen the things fly over a brightly lit local prison, and in the light he saw planes.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:36326-36519 hearsay second hand
1006
Anne Strieber told Whitley Strieber that he had predicted the newspaper story about the sighting the previous week, though he did not remember the conversation.
“My wife showed me the article and told me. "You said this would happen. You were talking about this last week." I did not remember the conversation”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:36595-36730 testimony second hand
1007
Whitley Strieber was surprised to find Science and the UFOs frightened him, and he put it aside after reading only the first five or six pages.
“I was surprised to find that *Science and the UFOs* frightened me. I put it aside with no more than the first fire or six pages read.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:37199-37327 observation first hand
1008
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber researched UFO sightings in their area and discovered it had been a hotbed of sightings for nearly half a century.
“Anne and I did more research into UFO sightings in our area. We discovered that it is a hotbed of sightings, and has been for nearly half a century.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:37409-37549 observation first hand
1009
The eighteen-year-old son of one of Whitley Strieber's neighbours saw something hovering near a road less than eight kilometres from Whitley Strieber's cabin at approximately nine-thirty at night in late December 1985, describing it as huge and covered with lights and hovering for more than fifteen minutes.
“the eighteen-year-old son of one of our neighbors saw something hovering near a road not five miles from our cabin ac approximately nine-thirty on a night in late December. He described it to me as "huge and covered with lights,"... it hovered for a substantial period, more than fifteen minutes, it could not have been a flight of planes.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:37574-37870 testimony second hand
1010
When Whitley Strieber later researched the report attributing a nearby large object sighting to a practical joke, he discovered the report was inaccurate.
“Only much later, when I researched it myself, did I discover how inaccurate that report was.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:3790-3878 testimony first hand
1011
Whitley Strieber telephoned Goodyear Corporation and confirmed their blimp was not in the area at the time of the neighbour's son's sighting.
“I telephoned the Goodyear Corporation and found that their blimp was not in the area at the time.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:38156-38248 administrative first hand
1012
In April 1986, Anne Strieber learned from a friend, an artist who was the wife of a well-known composer, that she had seen a flying saucer in 1953 at age nine, near where the Striebers' log cabin now stands.
“Just by talking with friends in April my wife uncovered a personal experience of an early area sighting, one that took place in the late fifties... She reported that she had seen a flying saucer in 1953, when she was nine.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:38408-38630 testimony third hand
1013
Whitley Strieber states he had never seen an unidentified flying object and had thought the subject had been fully explained by science.
“I have never seen an unidentified flying object. I thought that the whole subject had been explained by science.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:3884-3988 testimony first hand
1014
To gather unbiased data, Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber asked people the question "What was your strangest experience?" without revealing what had happened to them.
“To at once gain valid information and prevent bias, we had simply been asking people, "What was your strangest experience?" None of the people we asked had any idea of what was happening to us.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:38896-39087 administrative first hand
1015
The Striebers' friend described the object she saw in 1953 as similar to the one that appeared in the same area in December 1985: huge, full of lights, hovering, and moving off slowly.
“She proceeded to describe an object similar to the one that had appeared in the same immediate area in December 1985. Like so many reports through the years, she described it as huge, full of lights, and hovering. It moved off slowly”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:39221-39448 testimony third hand
1016
Further research by Whitley Strieber revealed that the upstate New York area comprising Westchester, Orange, Putnam, Rockland, and Ulster counties had an extraordinary series of sightings of boomerang- or triangular-shaped objects of enormous size.
“Further research revealed to us that our area of upstate New York, comprising roughly Westchester, Orange, Putnam, Rockland, and Ulster counties, had an absolutely extraordinary series of sightings of boomerang- or triangular-shaped objects of enormous”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:39728-39972 observation first hand
1017
It took Whitley Strieber a couple of months to establish a connection between what had happened to him on December 26, 1985 and the possibility of nonhuman visitors.
“It took me a couple of months to establish the connection between what had happened to me and possible nonhuman visitors, so unlikely did such a connection seem.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:3997-4153 testimony first hand
1018
An unnamed pilot told Whitley Strieber that the Discover magazine formation-flying explanation for the 1983 sightings was highly unlikely, as such formation flying would not be possible even with much heavier aircraft.
“A pilot told me that this was all highly unlikely, that such formation flying would not be possible e even with much heavier aircraft.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:40822-40947 opinion second hand
1019
Whitley Strieber does not think a professional meteorologist would mistake an object nearly 1.6 kilometres wide for a flight of airplanes at an altitude of approximately 30 metres.
“I do not think that a professional meteorologist would mistake an object nearly a mile wide for a flight of airplanes, not at an altitude of a hundred feet.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:41371-41522 opinion first hand
1020
Phillip J. Imbrogno told Whitley Strieber that since 1983 he had collected more than two hundred reports from people trained in some way as observers, describing huge devices with clear structure.
“Imbrogno, who said that he had collected since 1983 snore than two hundred reports from people trained in some way as observers, and that they had seen huge devices that had clear structure to them.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:42391-42584 testimony second hand
1021
During the night of December 26, 1985, Whitley Strieber abruptly woke and heard a peculiar whooshing, swirling noise coming from the living room downstairs, as if a large number of people were moving rapidly around the room.
“I heard a peculiar whooshing, swirling noise coming from the living room downstairs. This was no random creak, no settling of the house, but a sound as if a lame number of people were moving rapidly around to the room.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:4278-4491 observation first hand
1022
Whitley Strieber states that nobody has explained who came and took him in the night and injected something into his brain.
“And nobody has explained who came and took me in the night and injected something into my brain.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:42833-42923 testimony first hand
1023
Whitley Strieber remembered having been seated in a little depression in the woods and later remembered an animal, similar to the archetypal abduction experience described in Science and the UFOs.
“I, also, had been seated in a little depression in the woods. And I had later remembered an animal.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:43634-43726 testimony first hand
1024
Whitley Strieber called Budd Hopkins by phone, who listened to his story and then invited him to come over immediately.
“I called Budd Hopkins. He answered the phone and listened to my story for a few minutes... Could I come over — like right now?”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:45093-45182 testimony first hand
1025
Budd Hopkins's apartment in New York City was a ten minute walk from Whitley Strieber's home.
“It turned out that his place in the city was a ten minute walk from mine.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:45308-45376 observation first hand
1026
Budd Hopkins told Whitley Strieber during their first meeting that he was not a therapist but could refer him to one.
“The moment our interview began, Hopkins explained that he was not a therapist but he could put me in touch with one if I wanted that.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:45565-45693 testimony first hand
1027
During his first meeting with Budd Hopkins, Whitley Strieber recalled a memory of the night the house burned down, though it did not actually burn down.
“After a moment's reflection, I blurted out, "I seem to remember a night the house burned down. But it didn't burn down."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:46267-46382 testimony first hand
1028
An explosion occurred in early October that woke the whole household at the Strieber cabin, and the family had houseguests present at the time.
“All hell had broken loose on a night in early October. There had even been an explosion that woke up the whole household.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:46390-46501 observation first hand
1029
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber checked the burglar-alarm panel beside the bed and found the system armed and working perfectly, with no window or door opened.
“My eyes went straight to the burglar-alarm panel beside the bed. The system was armed and working perfectly. Not a covered window or door was opened, and nobody had entered-at least according to the row of glowing lights.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:4660-4874 observation first hand
1030
Budd Hopkins told Whitley Strieber that, based on his experience, the October events may have been caused by the same agency responsible for the December 26 disturbance.
“He'd said that judging from his experience, the October events may have been caused by the same agency that was responsible for the disturbance of December 26.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:46945-47101 opinion second hand
1031
On October 4, 1985, Whitley Strieber drove to his cabin in Ulster County with his wife, son, and two close friends, Jacques Sandulescu and Annie Gottlieb.
“On October 4. 1985, my wife, son, and I drove up to our cabin in the company of two close friends, Jacques Sandulescu and Annie Gottlieb.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:48496-48624 observation first hand
1032
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber had known Jacques Sandulescu and Annie Gottlieb for about five years as of October 1985.
“We have known Jacques and Annie for about five years.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:48635-48682 administrative first hand
1033
Whitley Strieber considered Jacques Sandulescu a good witness because of his steadfast sense of reality.
“He would make a good witness, I thought, because of his steadfast sense of reality.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:49328-49403 opinion first hand
1034
On the night of October 4, 1985, it was foggy in Ulster County, and the Strieber party had dinner at a local restaurant before arriving at the cabin at about nine in the evening.
“The night of October 4 was foggy in Ulster County. We had dinner at a local restaurant and arrived at the cabin at about nine in the evening.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:49573-49706 observation first hand
1035
The harvest moon was full on September 29, 1985, and by the night of October 4, 1985, was about half, rising at approximately ten-thirty but invisible due to cloud cover.
“The harvest moon had been full on September 29, and was now at about half. It rose at approximately ten-thirty, but was entirely invisible because of the cloud cover.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:50413-50573 observation first hand
1036
During the night of October 4, 1985, Whitley Strieber was startled awake and saw a distinct blue light being cast on the living-room ceiling of his cabin.
“I slept dreamlessly for some period of time, perhaps as much as two or three hours. Then I was startled awake and saw, to my horror, that there was a distinct blue light being cast on the living-room ceiling.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:50814-51014 observation first hand
1037
Whitley Strieber ruled out car lights, the neighbor's house, and the automatic porch light as sources of the blue light seen on his living-room ceiling on the night of October 4, 1985, and could not duplicate the effect with a fluorescent camp lantern.
“Car lights from the road could not be cast on that ceiling... The automatic porch light that had been persistently troublesome was now without bulbs. It could not have been a flashlight... We have tried duplicating the light with a fluorescent camp lantern both on a clear night and on a similarly foggy one, but even an extremely powerful fluorescent light could not achieve the effect.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:51102-51560 observation first hand
1038
Whitley Strieber was awakened again by a loud report like a firecracker, and his wife cried out while his son shouted downstairs.
“Sometime after I fell back to sleep I was again awakened, this time by a loud report, as if a firecracker had popped in my face. My wife cried out and downstairs my son began shouting.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:52417-52592 observation first hand
1039
When Whitley Strieber opened his eyes on the night of October 4, 1985, he saw the entire house surrounded by a glow that extended into the fog, which then suddenly disappeared as he was heading downstairs.
“When I opened my eyes I was stunned to see that the entire house was surrounded by a glow that extended into the fog... I hadn't gotten halfway across the room before the glow suddenly disappeared.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:52603-52785 observation first hand
1040
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber noticed one of the double doors leading into the bedroom moving closed, narrowing the opening and concealing what was behind it.
“No sooner had I settled back than I noticed that one of the double doors leading into our bedroom was moving closed.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:5283-5392 observation first hand
1041
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber own a log cabin in a secluded part of Ulster County, New York, where their primary visitor experiences occurred.
“My wife and I own a log cabin in a secluded corner of upstate New York. It is in this cabin that our primary experiences have taken place.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:538-670 observation first hand
1042
The next weekend after October 4, 1985, Whitley Strieber had a clear and dramatic memory of a huge crystal, hundreds of feet tall, standing on end above the house and glowing with unearthly blue light.
“The next weekend I had a very clear and dramatic memory of a huge crystal standing on end above the house, a glorious thing .hundreds of feet tall, glowing with unearthly blue light.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:54124-54300 testimony first hand
1043
On February 6, 1986, Whitley Strieber asked his wife and son questions about the night of October 4, 1985 in an attempt to explain the events rationally.
“On February 6, 1986, I came home from Hopkins's house brimming with eagerness... I first asked my wife to think back to October 4.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:54629-54738 observation first hand
1044
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber felt fully awake and in full possession of his faculties, not asleep or in a hypnopompic state.
“My mind was sharp. I was not asleep, nor in a hypnopompic state between sleep and waking. I wish to be clear that I felt, at that moment, wide awake and in full possession of all my faculties.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:5530-5712 testimony first hand
1045
Anne Strieber recalled being awakened by the bang on the night of October 4, 1985 but did not see the glow and only recalled Whitley Strieber saying there was no fire.
“I was disturbed that Anne at once remembered being awakened by the bang. She did not see the glow, but my initial warning about the fire apparently didn't penetrate her sleep, because all she did recall was my saying that there was no fire.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:55402-55637 testimony second hand
1046
When asked about the last time Jacques Sandulescu and Annie Gottlieb visited the cabin, Whitley Strieber's son remembered 'the night of the bang' and said 'a bunch of people' had told him it was okay, that he had just thrown his shoe at a fly.
“"Yeah. The night of the bang." So he had also heard it. "A bunch of people told me it was OK; you just threw your shoe at a fly."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:55741-55864 testimony second hand
1047
Budd Hopkins suggested to Whitley Strieber that he ask his son about dreams rather than memories.
“This answer, I must admit, shocked me badly. I left off questioning him and called Budd Hopkins, who suggested that I ask my son not about memories but about dreams.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:55938-56096 testimony second hand
1048
Whitley Strieber's son recounted a dream of a bunch of little doctors who took him out on the porch, put him on a cot, and repeatedly said 'We won't hurt you' in his head, occurring within another dream about being in a boat with a friend named Ezra.
“"I dreamed that a bunch of little doctors took me out on the porch and put me on a cot. I got scared and they started saying 'We won't hurt you' over and over in my head. That is my strangest dream, because it was just like it was real. It happened in the middle of another dream, when I was dreaming that me and Ezra [a friend of his] were in a boat."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:56230-56575 testimony second hand
1049
Whitley Strieber's son could not say whether he had had the little-doctors dream on the night of October 4, 1985, but knew it had happened at the cabin.
“He could not say if he had had the dream on the night of October 4. He knew only that it had happened at the cabin.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:56582-56691 testimony second hand
1050
Jacques Sandulescu told Whitley Strieber by phone that on the night in question he was suddenly awakened by a room full of bright, daylight-like light, checked his watch which read four-thirty, then heard Whitley Strieber saying it was okay before the light disappeared and he went back to sleep.
“Jacques: "The light! I was sleeping, all of a sudden something woke me up. I saw the room was full of light. Bright, like daylight. Not like the moon. I thought we overslept. I look at my watch, it says four-thirty. Then I hear you through the door, saying it's OK. The light is gone, so I go back to sleep."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:57273-57564 testimony second hand
1051
Whitley Strieber determined that the guest room window could not have received light from the neighbor's house, car lights, moonlight or sunlight, and that testing showed the porch light and movement-sensitive light would only illuminate the porch outline, not the trees and shrubs as Jacques Sandulescu described.
“Our guest room has one small window overlooking a seven-feet-deep covered porch. Beyond that the land slopes up gradually, so that not even car lights from the road can enter that room, much less moonlight or sunlight. With the leaves gone during the winter, we determined that the lights from the neighbor's house are also invisible from that window... Jacques would have seen not the trees and shrubs but the outline of the porch interior with the yard beyond in darkness.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:57817-58404 observation first hand
1052
Whitley Strieber and his family could not duplicate the light effect from the night of October 4, 1985 even with the neighbor's lights on, the porch light on, and a car in the front yard.
“Even with the neighbor's lights on, the porch light on, and a car in the front yard, we could not duplicate the effect.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:58594-58706 observation first hand
1053
An unnamed pilot told Whitley Strieber to 'forget aircraft' as an explanation for the light and sound phenomena of October 4, 1985, given the thick fog that night.
“Because of the fog, a helicopter, or indeed any sort of airplane, was out of the question. A pilot told me simply, "Forget aircraft."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:58999-59122 opinion second hand
1054
At four-thirty on the morning of October 4, 1985, the moon was still in the sky but well below the line of the forest and low in the west, while the light source Whitley Strieber observed was clearly directly overhead.
“At four-thirty the moon was still in the sky, but well below the line of the forest... the moon was low in the west and the source of the light was clearly directly overhead.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:59134-59256 observation first hand
1055
There were no thunderstorms in the area on the night of October 4, 1985, ruling out thunder as an explanation for the loud report Whitley Strieber heard.
“Maybe it was thunder. But there were no thunderstorms in the area.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:59505-59566 observation first hand
1056
Annie Gottlieb was awakened by a loud explosion during the December 26, 1985 abduction experience.
“Like the rest of us, Annie was awakened by a loud explosion.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:60499-60549 testimony second hand
1057
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber saw a compact figure edging around the bedroom door.
“Then I saw edging around it a compact figure. It was so distinct and yet so completely, impossibly astonishing that at first I could not understand it at all.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:6051-6205 observation first hand
1058
Whitley Strieber told Annie Gottlieb that the cats were in the city that weekend and were not brought because they disliked the carrier.
“"Annie, the cats were in the city. We don't take them weekends because they don't like the carrier."”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:60698-60788 testimony first hand
1059
Annie Gottlieb recalled hearing Whitley Strieber come downstairs after the scurrying noises and say through the door not to worry.
“A few minutes after the scurrying, I heard you come downstairs. You said through the door not to worry.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:60923-61020 testimony first hand
1060
Annie Gottlieb recalled that the next morning Whitley Strieber told her that some people had come down from a spaceship to visit.
“The next morning you told me that some people had come down from is spaceship to visit.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:61027-61108 hearsay first hand
1061
Whitley Strieber denied ever telling Annie Gottlieb that people had come down from a spaceship to visit.
“Annie, I never said any such thing. I would never say anything like that.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:61127-61197 testimony first hand
1062
Months after the conversation, Annie Gottlieb recalled that Whitley Strieber had not spoken about a visit but had instead described a crystal.
“Months later she recalled that I had not spoken about a visit. but had described the crystal.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:61390-61475 testimony second hand
1063
Whitley Strieber said he had a very strange explanation for the disturbances of that night.
“In any case, I certainly had a very strange explanation for the night's disturbances.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:61484-61556 testimony first hand
1064
After speaking to Annie Gottlieb, Whitley Strieber concluded that something very peculiar had been going on and that he could not deny it.
“I realized, finally and inescapably, that something very peculiar was going on. I could not deny it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:61687-61784 testimony first hand
1065
Whitley Strieber went into his office in Manhattan one evening and looked out at the sky.
“I went into my office and closed my door. It was evening, and Manhattan's few blind stars were shining in the sky.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:61826-61936 observation first hand
1066
Around the second week of October 1985, Whitley Strieber became extremely fearful about living in the New York area and decided to move.
“Around the second week of October I had become extremely fearful about living in the New York area and decided to move.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:62170-62284 testimony first hand
1067
Whitley Strieber experienced nervousness, secret searching under beds and in closets, and unreasonable fear of prowlers during the autumn of 1985.
“my nervousness, my secret searching under beds and in closets, my unreasonable fear of prowlers?”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:62349-62436 testimony first hand
1068
Whitley Strieber had awful dreams he could not remember and repeatedly woke in the small hours feeling as if something dreadful had just happened.
“I had awful dreams that I cannot remember. Again and again I woke up in the small hours of the morning feeling as if something dreadful had just happened.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:62531-62676 testimony first hand
1069
Whitley Strieber later learned that another person who has had the visitor experience first encountered it via the same distinctive figure rushing toward her in the same manner.
“Months and months later, I discovered that another person who has had the visitor experience first encountered it through the medium of this same peculiar figure rushing toward her in exactly the way that this one now rushed toward me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:6260-6492 hearsay second hand
1070
By the last week of October 1985, Whitley Strieber decided he could not live in New York any longer, though he still had no conscious memory of the December 26, 1985 night being unusual.
“The last week of October, still with no conscious memory of that night being in any way unusual, I decided that I couldn't live a moment longer in New York.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:62687-62838 testimony first hand
1071
Whitley Strieber decided he wanted to move to Austin, Texas, a city he and Anne Strieber both loved.
“I decided that I wanted to move to Austin. I went to the University of Texas there, and it is a city that both Anne and I love.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:63038-63160 testimony first hand
1072
Whitley Strieber's collaborator James Kunetka lived in Austin, Texas.
“Some of our best friends, including my collaborator James Kunetka, live there.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:63166-63238 administrative first hand
1073
Whitley Strieber insisted on putting both his cabin and his apartment on the market.
“I insisted on putting both the cabin and the apartment on the market.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:63246-63308 testimony first hand
1074
After Halloween 1985, Whitley Strieber and his family went to Texas, arranged for their son to attend a local private school, and began the process of buying a house.
“After Halloween we went down to Texas and arranged for our son to attend a local private school and began the process of buying a house.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:63317-63447 testimony first hand
1075
Whitley Strieber received an offer on his cabin but no interest in his apartment.
“We got an offer on our cabin, but no interest in the apartment.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:63455-63508 testimony first hand
1076
One evening in Austin, while Anne Strieber talked with the realtor and owners of a house they had chosen to buy, Whitley Strieber walked out onto the deck.
“One evening in Austin we were looking at the house we had chosen to buy. My wife was inside talking to the realtor and the owners. I walked out onto the deck.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:63520-63673 testimony first hand
1077
Looking at the dark canyon and stars from the deck of the Austin house, Whitley Strieber felt suddenly and absolutely afraid, as if the sky were a living thing watching him.
“When I looked at the dark canyon that stretched out into the shadows, and the stars in the evening sky, I felt suddenly and absolutely afraid. It was exactly as if the sky were a living thing, and it was watching me.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:63680-63893 testimony first hand
1078
Whitley Strieber was aware that his fear that the sky was watching him was a paranoid fantasy.
“What was even more frightening was my clear awareness that this was a paranoid fantasy.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:63898-63977 testimony first hand
1079
Whitley Strieber thought at the time that his mental health was not good and that he would soon have to calm down or take steps to improve it.
“I thought then that my mental health was not good, and soon I would either have to calm down or take steps to Improve it.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:63987-64105 opinion first hand
1080
Whitley Strieber could not live in, and never entered again, the Austin house they had chosen to buy.
“But I could not live in that house. In fact, I could never enter it again.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:64110-64178 testimony first hand
1081
When Whitley Strieber changed his mind and decided to stay in New York, Anne Strieber was furious, and he then accused her of being the one who had wanted to move to Austin.
“When I changed my mind and decided to stay in New York, my wife was understandably furious. Then I accused her of being the one who had wanted to move us to Austin.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:64186-64343 testimony first hand
1082
Anne Strieber considered leaving Whitley Strieber because life together had become intolerable following the crisis over whether to move.
“She really thought that she might have to leave me, because life together was just getting intolerable.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:64377-64468 testimony second hand
1083
Anne Strieber's threat to separate caused Whitley Strieber to quell his extreme behaviour, and he did not begin to feel better until Christmas 1985.
“her despairing threat to separate made me quell my extreme behavior. It was not until Christmas that I really began to feel better.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:64513-64637 testimony first hand
1084
Whitley Strieber had promised Budd Hopkins that he would not read anything about unidentified flying objects (UFOs).
“I had promised Hopkins that I wouldn't read anything about unidentified flying objects.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:64731-64810 testimony first hand
1085
Whitley Strieber recalled possibly having seen years earlier a Look magazine story about someone named Hill being taken aboard a flying disk.
“Pressing myself I thought maybe I could remember seeing something years ago in Look magazine about somebody named Hill being taken aboard a flying disk.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:64936-65083 testimony first hand
1086
In July 1986 Whitley Strieber obtained copies of the Look magazine issues dated October 4 and October 18, 1966, concerning the Hill abduction story.
“In July 1986 I got copies of the issues involved — October 4 and 18, 1966-and I do not think that I actually read them at the time.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:65090-65216 testimony first hand
1087
Even after talking to Budd Hopkins, Whitley Strieber was not willing to ascribe his experiences to the unidentified flying object (UFO) phenomenon and had no idea what had happened that night.
“Even after talking to Hopkins, I was by no means willing to ascribe my experiences to the UFO phenomenon. I wanted to be quite clear: I had no idea what had gone on that night.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:65425-65595 opinion first hand
1088
Whitley Strieber estimated the figure he saw during the December 26, 1985 experience was roughly 1.1 metres tall, smaller and lighter than his son.
“I believe that it was roughly three and a half feet tall, altogether smaller and lighter than my son.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:7174-7271 measurement first hand
1089
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber saw the figure wearing a smooth, rounded hat with an odd, sharp rim jutting out about ten centimetres on the visible side.
“It had a smooth, rounded hat on, with an odd, sharp rim that jutted out easily four inches on the side I could see.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:7387-7498 observation first hand
1090
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber saw two dark holes for eyes and a black downturning line of a mouth on the figure, which later became an O shape.
“A few moments later, when it was close to the bed, I saw two dark holes for eyes and a black downturning line of a mouth that later became an O.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:7589-7731 observation first hand
1091
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber saw a square plate etched with concentric circles on the figure from shoulder to midriff, resembling a breastplate or armoured vest.
“From shoulder to midriff was the visible third of a square plate etched with concentric circles... At the time I thought it looked like some sort of breastplate, or even an armored vest.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:7735-7960 observation first hand
1092
During the December 26, 1985 experience, Whitley Strieber observed a rectangular appliance of the same type as the breastplate covering the figure's lower waist to just above the knees.
“Beneath it was a rectangular appliance of the same type, which covered the lower waist to just above the knees.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:7985-8090 observation first hand
1093
Before seeking help, Whitley Strieber remembered only that there had been a strange disturbance on October 4, 1985.
“Until I sought help, I remembered only that there was a strange disturbance on October 4.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:821-908 testimony first hand
1094
Whitley Strieber's house at the cabin, being isolated, contained a shotgun kept not far from the bed.
“Because of its isolation, the house not only had a burglar alarm but contained a shotgun, which was not far from the bed at the time.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:8834-8962 observation first hand
1095
Whitley Strieber wondered whether an earlier reconnaissance of the house might have taken place and revealed the presence of the shotgun, possibly explaining the figure's shield-like breastplate.
“Was that why the thing behind the door was wearing a shield, if that was indeed what it was? I have subsequently wondered if an earlier reconnaissance of the house might not have taken place and revealed the presence of the weapon?”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:8968-9192 opinion first hand
1096
In July 1985, while reading at about half past eleven at night, Whitley Strieber heard normal human-sounding footsteps move stealthily down the front porch toward a newly installed motion-sensitive light, coming from the pool area toward the road, the opposite direction from a prowler coming off the road.
“The previous July we'd had an experience that should be reported here. I was reading at about half past eleven at night, when I distinctly heard footsteps-normal, human-sounding footsteps move stealthily down our front porch to the area where I had just had a motion-sensitive light installed. The peculiar thing about these footsteps was that they came from the pool area and moved toward the road, the opposite of the direction that they would have come if it was a prowler from the road.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:9201-9686 observation first hand
1097
In July 1985, when the motion-sensitive light came on at the Striebers' cabin, Whitley Strieber dashed downstairs with the shotgun but saw nobody, despite the light still being on and being attached to a fifteen-second timer, giving no time for an intruder to hide.
“No sooner had I thought that than it did. I dashed downstairs but saw nobody even though the light was still on. As it was attached to a fifteen second timer, I found this startling. I had gotten out onto the porch in no more than ten seconds, and there was no place for an intruder to hide between the house and the road, not in that short time.”
Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:9792-10133 observation first hand
1098
Jeffrey Kripal recounted that Whitley Strieber told an audience he was fully aware that his visionary experience of the visitors described in his novel Communion was deeply informed by the bad science-fiction B movies he had seen as a child in the cold-war 1950s in southern Texas.
“Reflecting on a talk by “alien abductee” Whitley Strieber about the experiences that informed his best-selling novel, Communion, Jeffrey Kripal notes the role played by popular culture: “One evening he [Whitley] explained to us that he was perfectly aware that his visionary experience of the visitors was deeply informed by the bad sci-fi B movies that he had seen in such numbers as a kid in the cold war 1950s in southern Texas.””
American Cosmic 2019 ch4:33641-34068 testimony second hand
1099
Whitley Strieber told Tyler D. and D. W. Pasulka that the artifacts they studied also studied them.
““Remember what Whitley [Strieber] told us? That the artifacts we studied also studied us?””
American Cosmic 2019 ch7:48194-48279 testimony second hand
1100
Whitley Strieber told Strom Thurmond in a letter that United States Army Brigadier General Arthur Exon told him personally in 1989 that there was a 'completely unequivocal cover-up' of a retrieved alien craft at Roswell, New Mexico that 'went from Truman on down'.
“Strieber told the Senator in his letter that US Army Brigadier General Arthur Exon had told him personally in 1989 that there was a 'completely unequivocal cover-up' of a retrieved alien craft at Roswell and 'it went from [President Harry] Truman on down'.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch25:22926-23176 hearsay third hand
1101
Edgar Mitchell's initial scepticism of the Corso and Strieber accounts of the Roswell incident slowly turned to amazement as he examined documents and interviewed military colleagues.
“'My initial scepticism of the Corso and Strieber type accounts has slowly turned to amazement as I dug through reams of documents and interviewed military colleagues,' Mitchell confided in his fax to Thurmond.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch25:23327-23526 opinion first hand
1102
Whitley Strieber sent a letter to Senator Strom Thurmond on 1997-06-16, held in the Edgar Mitchell archive.
“Letter from Whitley Strieber to Senator Strom Thurmond, 16 Jun 1997, Edgar Mitchell archive.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch34:57725-57809 administrative second hand
1103
Budd Hopkins introduced Ted Jacobs to Whitley Strieber.
“this is a drawing made by Ted Jacobs who I also introduced to Whitley Strieber”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:00:27.6-00:00:33.1 administrative first hand
1104
Ted Jacobs made a pastel drawing for the cover of one of Whitley Strieber's books.
“he had Ted do the drawing for his cover of his books a pastel”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:00:33.8-00:00:37.6 administrative first hand
1105
During an encounter in the New Mexico desert, nonhuman visitors communicated the phrase "a new world if you can take it" to Colonel Philip Corso.
“Remember the essential challenge of contact: "a new world if you can take it," communicated to Col. Philip Corso many years ago during an encounter in the New Mexico desert.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:10291-10457 hearsay second hand
1106
The United States government classifies between 60 million and 70 million documents a year.
“The United States government classifies between 60 million and 70 million documents a year”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:10978-11064 measurement
1107
Whitley Strieber considers that some keepers of UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) secrets deep within the defence contractor system may be in direct contact with nonhuman visitors and are indirectly under their control, unwilling to come forward unless permitted by the visitors.
“Some of them, deep within the system, who may be in direct contact with the visitors and are, in any case, indirectly under their control, and not going to come forward unless allowed to do so by them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:11414-11610 opinion first hand
1108
Whitley Strieber agrees with Lue Elizondo's description of the secrecy as somber, with the amendment that acceptance is possible.
“If I am even close to being correct about it, I would agree, but with a slight amendment: "Somber indeed, but acceptance is possible and as the old saying goes, 'The truth will make us free.'"”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:11876-12061 opinion first hand
1109
Whitley Strieber considers that during the Cold War, nonhuman visitors made mysterious appearances and engaged in various interventions at both Soviet and American missile sites to warn about the danger of nuclear war.
“They made many mysterious appearances and engaged in various interventions at both Soviet and American missile sites during the Cold War. This was to warn us about nuclear war.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:1850-2022 opinion first hand
1110
Whitley Strieber considers that nonhuman visitors have warned thousands of close encounter witnesses about the danger of environmental collapse.
“They have also warned thousands of close encounter witnesses about the danger of environmental collapse.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:2027-2122 opinion first hand
1111
At the same time as the 2024 United States nuclear weapons redeployment to the United Kingdom, a US president was elected who has said he does not believe in climate change and would undo existing environmental protections.
“a president was elected who has said that he doesn't believe at all in climate change and will not only undo environmental protections already in place, but even suppress reporting about the situation on the part of governmental scientific institutions”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:2233-2473 opinion
1112
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that the unusual aircraft flying over many parts of the world are not being operated by a state or other local player, but by nonhuman visitors acting independently or through human surrogates who have been in place for some time.
“if this is not a state or other local player, then our visitors may be acting either independently or through human surrogates who I would speculate have been in place for some time”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:232-409 opinion first hand
1113
Whitley Strieber considers that the elected 2024 US president intends to suppress reporting about environmental collapse by governmental scientific institutions.
“even suppress reporting about the situation on the part of governmental scientific institutions”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:2390-2473 opinion first hand
1114
A US government programme intends to develop drones to protect the homeland from foreign adversaries, with its testbed located over Northern New Jersey.
“There is also a US program intended to develop drones that will protect the homeland from foreign adversaries, and its testbed is located over northern New Jersey”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:2631-2787 observation
1115
Whitley Strieber states his book The Fourth Mind is not intended to be hostile to the nonhuman visitors or to the governments and defence contractors worldwide that have kept secrets related to their presence and intentions.
“it is not intended to be hostile to our visitors or to the governments and defense contractors worldwide who have kept secrets related to their presence and intentions”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:3112-3269 opinion first hand
1116
Whitley Strieber considers that the official world was manipulated long ago into a position where it had to keep the secrets of nonhuman visitors.
“Our official world was long ago manipulated into a position where it had to keep the visitors' secrets.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:3281-3376 opinion first hand
1117
Whitley Strieber considers that the United States Department of Defense (DoD) ensures that nobody outside a small group of individuals controlled by security clearances has any definite knowledge of anything to do with nonhuman visitors.
“The United States Department of Defense makes certain that nobody outside of a small coterie of individuals whose activities are controlled by security clearances has any definite knowledge of anything to do with the visitors.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:3834-4051 opinion first hand
1118
Whitley Strieber has had a lifetime of contact with nonhuman visitors and, in his adult life, opportunities to observe them.
“I do have something that they don't, though, which is a lifetime of contact with them, and, in my adult life, opportunities to usefully observe them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:4061-4205 testimony first hand
1119
Whitley Strieber states that he is not personally keeping any secrets about the nonhuman visitors.
“I am not personally keeping any secrets.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:4739-4771 opinion first hand
1120
Whitley Strieber considers The Fourth Mind to be his best effort, using all he presently understands, in the service of fruitful contact with nonhuman visitors.
“The Fourth Mind is as far as I am able to go at this time. It is my best effort to make use of all I presently understand, in the service of fruitful contact.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:4867-5017 opinion first hand
1121
Whitley Strieber considers that numerous defence contractors have gained a stake in prolonging secrecy about nonhuman visitors because their efforts to exploit found materials and processes have left them with unstable patents on a substantial number of inventions.
“numerous defense contractors have also gained a stake in prolonging the secrecy because their efforts to exploit found materials and processes have left them with unstable patents on a substantial number of inventions”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:5043-5250 opinion first hand
1122
Whitley Strieber considers that official disclosure would require a blanket amnesty covering both criminal and civil liability for defence contractors and legislative protection for questionable patents.
“There has to be a blanket amnesty covering both criminal and civil liability, and language that protects the questionable patents.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:5457-5579 opinion first hand
1123
Whitley Strieber considers that every US presidential administration from Harry Truman in 1947 to the present has kept the secret of nonhuman visitors.
“From Truman in 1947 until the present, all U.S. presidential administrations have kept the secret”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:5589-5680 opinion first hand
1124
Jimmy Carter saw a UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) before entering office and promised he would find out the truth about it.
“including that of Jimmy Carter, who promised, after himself seeing a UFO prior to entering office, that he would find out the truth”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:5688-5814 testimony second hand
1125
During his administration, Jimmy Carter revealed nothing about UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects).
“During his administration, he revealed nothing”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:5821-5860 observation
1126
When later queried about UFOs by researcher Stanton Friedman, Jimmy Carter refused to discuss the matter at all.
“later, when queried about the matter by UFO researcher Stanton Friedman, he refused to discuss it at all”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:5873-5974 observation
1127
Whitley Strieber considers that the Trump administration did not address the disclosure of UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) information.
“The Trump administration did not address it”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:6170-6211 opinion first hand
1128
Whitley Strieber considers that the Biden administration has done everything possible to derail increasingly strident congressional demands for more UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) disclosure.
“the Biden administration has done everything possible to derail increasingly strident congressional demands for more disclosure”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:6219-6336 opinion first hand
1129
Whitley Strieber considers that the governments of the United Kingdom, France, Russia, Brazil and China all possess significant secrets about nonhuman visitors and remain silent on the subject.
“the governments of the United Kingdom, France, Russia, Brazil and China, all of whom possess significant secrets, remain silent on the subject”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:6359-6494 opinion first hand
1130
In the fourth quarter of 2024 the United States began redeploying nuclear weapons in the United Kingdom.
“the United States began, in the fourth quarter of 2024, to redeploy nuclear weapons in the United Kingdom”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:645-743 observation
1131
Whitley Strieber considers that the 2025 Trump administration will be compelled to address UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) disclosure in a new way.
“I think that they will certainly be compelled to address it in a new way”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:6582-6651 opinion first hand
1132
Whitley Strieber considers that there is much known about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and some of their occupants within the US defence establishment, concentrated on materials and biology rather than aims, motives, or their relationship to the soul.
“There is much known about UAPs and some of their occupants within the U.S. defense establishment, but it is concentrated on aspects like materials and biology, not so much on aims and motives and the needs behind them, let alone their relationship to the ineffable and intricately resonant part of us that we call the soul”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:6707-7025 opinion first hand
1133
Whitley Strieber considers that modern material culture has imposed a kind of anaesthesia on humans that prevents them from detecting the part of themselves called the soul.
“our ever more complex and aggressive material culture has imposed a kind of anesthesia on us. We can no longer detect this part of our normal humanity.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:7172-7314 opinion first hand
1134
Whitley Strieber considers that nonhuman visitors are capable of understanding the less dense but coherent aspects of personhood as their foundational reality.
“our visitors are not only capable of understanding the less dense but coherent aspects of personhood—this is their foundational reality”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:7337-7465 opinion first hand
1135
Whitley Strieber considers that to nonhuman visitors, physical bodies are more like suits of clothes than prisons that can only be escaped at death.
“The bodies we will be discussing are, to them, more like suits of clothes are to us than prisons which can be escaped only at death.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:7474-7600 opinion first hand
1136
Drones appeared over RAF Lakenheath, England, where the redeployment of United States nuclear weapons in the United Kingdom was being managed.
“Drones appeared over RAF Lakenheath where this deployment was being managed”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:752-820 observation
1137
Whitley Strieber considers that Jesus understood the nature of the soul two thousand years ago, ahead of his time.
“Ironically, Jesus knew and understood this two thousand years ago. He was a bit ahead of his time, it would seem.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:7912-8020 opinion first hand
1138
Whitley Strieber has reason to believe, from personal experience, that the soul exists and is everybody's primary reality, both human and that of the nonhuman visitors.
“From personal experience, I have reason to believe not only that the soul exists but also that it is everybody's primary reality, both ours and theirs.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:8027-8171 testimony first hand
1139
Whitley Strieber considers that the difference between humans and nonhuman visitors is that the visitors are not trapped in their bodies while humans are.
“The difference between us is that they are not trapped in their bodies and we are.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:8179-8257 opinion first hand
1140
After appearing over RAF Lakenheath, drones began appearing over Northern New Jersey, USA.
“then began appearing over Northern New Jersey”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:829-868 observation
1141
In his darkest moments, Whitley Strieber sometimes sees the nonhuman visitors as predators at large among an innocent species that has no idea it is being preyed upon.
“In the darkest moments of my darkest nights, I see our visitors as predators at large among an innocent species that has no idea how to defend itself, or even that it is being preyed upon.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:8305-8488 opinion first hand
1142
At other times, Whitley Strieber sees the nonhuman visitors as possibly unwitting servants of a higher order, pressuring humanity toward becoming a cosmic species with a consciousness like theirs, no longer bound to a single planet.
“At other times, I see them as—perhaps unwitting—servants of a higher order, putting us under a kind of pressure that will end in our becoming a cosmic species, no longer bound to the physical world and a single planet, and with a consciousness like theirs”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:8494-8743 opinion first hand
1143
Whitley Strieber considers that the nonhuman visitors adhere to a policy of secrecy while engaging with humans in invasive and intimate ways.
“Our visitors adhere to the policy of secrecy while engaging with us in invasive and intimate ways”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:8978-9071 opinion first hand
1144
Whitley Strieber considers that humanity must stand up to the nonhuman visitors through understanding rather than weapons.
“We have to stand up to them, but to do that with understanding, not with weapons, which are nothing more than a declaration of our helplessness.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:9185-9316 opinion first hand
1145
On 1985-12-26, the only smell Whitley Strieber noticed while inside the beings' place with them was a mild odour of cinnamon, suggesting they were wearing the skin covering at that time.
“As I recall, the only smell that I noticed while I was inside their place with them on December 26, 1985, was a mild odor of cinnamon. Therefore, they were wearing something over their skin at that time.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:10312-10510 observation first hand
1146
Whitley Strieber believes that the covering on the beings' skin more likely serves to contain excretory material than to be protective, which would support the theory that these are designed creatures rather than a product of evolutionary biology.
“Its more important purpose is probably to contain the excretory material. If so, then this supports the theory that these are designed creatures, not an outcome of evolutionary biology.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:10637-10814 opinion first hand
1147
Whitley Strieber only saw the gray beings wiping crystalline material off their arms, not their whole bodies, which he suggests indicates they had removed sleeves while the rest of the body remained covered.
“I only saw them wiping the crystalline material off their arms, not their whole bodies, which would suggest that they had removed sleeves, and the rest of the bodies were still inside the covering.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:10944-11132 observation first hand
1148
Whitley Strieber recalled that this pale-skinned being almost looked like a human woman with a very strange face.
“I can recall at one point thinking that she almost looked like a human woman with a very strange face.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:11356-11453 observation first hand
1149
Unlike the grays Whitley Strieber had seen, this pale-skinned female being had human-looking legs.
“Unlike the grays I had seen, she had human-looking legs.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:11459-11510 observation first hand
1150
Whitley Strieber observed that when he thought about how ugly this female being was, she would turn her face away as if slapped, and he would hear her anguished scream in his mind.
“When I so much as thought how ugly she was, she would turn her face away as if slapped, and I would hear her anguished scream in my mind.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:11624-11756 observation first hand
1151
In 1988, while making the Communion movie, Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber took a side trip to Roswell to meet with surviving witnesses of the 1947 Roswell UFO incident.
“When we were making the Communion movie in 1988, Anne and I took a side trip to Roswell to meet with witnesses, some of whom were still alive at that time.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:1211-1361 observation first hand
1152
Whitley Strieber wrote "Pain" as the traumatic amnesia he had experienced due to his abduction was lifting, while he was recalling what had happened to him.
“The story was written as the traumatic amnesia I had experienced due to the abduction was lifting, and I was in the process of recalling what had happened to me.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:12115-12273 administrative first hand
1153
The pale-skinned female being Whitley Strieber observed differed from those described in the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy in that she had genitals and was therefore capable of reproduction.
“This entity—I want to say, simply, “woman”—also differed from the ones described in the document in that she had genitals. She was, therefore, capable of reproduction and possibly more purely biological than they appear to have been.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:12403-12631 observation first hand
1154
Whitley Strieber speculates that the beings that were autopsied may have been a symbiotic extension of a creature like the pale-skinned female entity, less independently functional and operating under overall control while linked to her in some way.
“Maybe they were not really independent entities, possibly some sort of symbiotic extension of a creature like her that functions very differently from the way we do in our world”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:12888-13060 opinion first hand
1155
Leaf-cutter ants have seven different functional variants within the same species, each with different brain structures.
“Leaf-cutter ants, as an example, have seven different functional variants in the same species. These different variants also have different brain structures.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:14189-14335 observation
1156
Among leaf-cutter ants, soldier ants have the largest brains and eyes, probably to enable maximum flexibility.
“It’s worth noticing that the soldier ants have the largest brains and eyes, probably to enable them as much flexibility as possible.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:14391-14514 observation
1157
Whitley Strieber speculates that the complex, independent creature that managed his abduction and became intimate with him may have been higher in the beings' hierarchy than the ones described in the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy.
“So maybe the complex, independent creature that managed my abduction, and that spent time with me and my family and became intimate with me, was farther up in their hierarchy than the ones that the Reddit document describes.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:14524-14738 opinion first hand
1158
Whitley Strieber has come to understand that the Communion cover portrait was intended to cause people who had been contacted to realise that what they thought was a strange dream that lingered in their minds was in fact in some way real.
“I have come to understand that the portrait was intended to cause the people they had contacted to realize that what they had thought was a strange dream that lingered in their minds was, in fact, in some way real.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:15861-16070 opinion first hand
1159
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber met Walter Haut at his home and had a fairly extensive conversation with him about his work as Roswell Army Air Force Base press officer.
“We met him at his home and had a fairly extensive conversation with him. He described his work as base press officer”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:1594-1703 observation first hand
1160
The Archives of the Impossible at Rice University constitutes the first extensive record of contact between mankind and these nonhuman beings.
“This archive is the first extensive record of contact between mankind and these others.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:16251-16331 opinion first hand
1161
Whitley Strieber considers the human experience of contact with the nonhuman beings, as represented in the Archives of the Impossible, to be the most complex collective experience humankind has ever had.
“In fact, it is the most complex collective experience humankind has ever had.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:16464-16537 opinion first hand
1162
Whitley Strieber observed that the beings visiting his house at night left footprint holes in snow or softened soil matching the stride of a smallish person walking, made by something moving on hard toes rather than soft-bottomed feet, consistent with tapping footfalls he sometimes heard on the front porch that triggered motion-sensitive lights.
“We would know that they had come around the house at night, especially in snow or when the soil was softened by rain, because they would leave holes that matched the stride of a smallish person moving at a walking gait... We would sometimes hear their tapping footfalls on the front porch, and the motion-sensitive lights would turn on.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:17134-17486 observation first hand
1163
Whitley Strieber and his son saw one of the nonhuman beings rise just above the ground and move very quickly one early morning at their cabin.
“My son and I saw this happen early one morning at our cabin, a story which I will expand in the next chapter.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:17897-17998 observation first hand
1164
On 2024-10-06, Whitley Strieber was with someone who witnessed a being moving in this rising, fast manner while walking in a forest at night, though Strieber did not personally see the being.
“As recently as October 6, 2024, I was with someone who witnessed this type of motion, although I did not personally see the being who sped past us while we were walking in a forest at night.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:18261-18445 testimony second hand
1165
Whitley Strieber has never observed a being's hand with no nails, and has only seen the finger ends appear round when pressed against a surface.
“I have never observed a hand with no nails. The finger ends I have seen round only when they are pressed against a surface.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:19202-19317 observation first hand
1166
Whitley Strieber observed the beings' hands in function with supple, snake-like finger movement suggesting mobility consistent with musculature entirely intrinsic to the hand.
“I have observed the hands in function, and the supple movement of the fingers, like snakes, suggests exactly the sort of mobility that musculature “entirely intrinsic to the hand” would have.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:19326-19512 observation first hand
1167
Whitley Strieber observed that the anatomy of the fingers described in the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy matches what he and others observed at his cabin, except for the nails.
“The anatomy of the fingers, then, as described in the document, is the same, save for the nails, as what I and others observed at my cabin.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:20468-20601 observation first hand
1168
During his December 1985 abduction experience, Whitley Strieber saw a more complex mouth on the being that peered at him intently, as depicted on the cover of Communion.
“As the cover of Communion reveals, I saw a somewhat more complex mouth on the one that peered at me so intently during the abduction experience”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:20739-20872 testimony first hand
1169
During his December 1985 abduction experience, Whitley Strieber observed other beings present with almost vestigial mouths and noses, matching descriptions in the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy.
“but there were others present with almost vestigial mouths and noses, just as the document describes”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:20884-20975 testimony first hand
1170
Whitley Strieber and others in his close encounter accounts describe the beings as telepathically fluent, communicating telepathically when in their presence.
“They are telepathically fluent, and when we are with them, so are we. So many close encounter accounts, including my own, mention this effect”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:21257-21392 testimony first hand
1171
When Whitley Strieber asked Walter Haut whether the remains of a kite or weather balloon would have received the treatment given to the Roswell debris, Walter Haut said no.
“I asked him whether the remains of a kite or weather balloon would have received that treatment and he said, simply, “No.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:2151-2269 testimony first hand
1172
Diane Hennacy Powell has asserted and essentially proved that many unvoiced people on the autism spectrum have telepathic ability.
“It has been asserted and essentially proved by Dr. Diane Hennacy Powell, that many unvoiced people on the autism spectrum do have this ability”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:21671-21806 opinion second hand
1173
Whitley Strieber has heard five different types of vocal sound coming from the grays, of which he believes only three were probably produced naturally.
“As to vocalizations, I've heard five different types of vocal sound coming from the grays, but only three of them were probably produced naturally.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:23077-23214 testimony first hand
1174
During his December 1985 abduction experience, Whitley Strieber heard an artificial voice repeatedly asking "What can we do to help you stop screaming?"
“During my abduction experience, a voice kept repeating the phrase “What can we do to help you stop screaming?” but it was obviously artificial.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:23226-23358 testimony first hand
1175
Whitley Strieber once heard the phrase "Have joy" uttered, which he does not believe was produced by any vocal process available to the grays.
“I once heard a phrase uttered, “Have joy,” but I do not think that it was produced by any vocal process available to the grays.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:23446-23567 testimony first hand
1176
Anne Strieber adopted "Have joy" as the mantra of her life after hearing about the phrase.
“She adopted “Have joy” as the mantra of her life, and sought always to meet the challenge, and even in her dying, did just that.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:23926-24049 observation first hand
1177
When asked about the existence of bodies at Roswell, Walter Haut became evasive, which Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber both later agreed suggested he was trying not to lie but also not to tell the truth.
“When I got to the issue of the existence of bodies, he became, Anne and I both later agreed, rather evasive... we concluded later that he had been trying not to lie but also not to tell the truth.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:2406-2644 observation first hand
1178
After realising that the abduction of 1985-12-26 had really happened, Whitley Strieber began going into the woods at night to try to re-engage with the beings, and on a couple of occasions heard an unearthly, protracted shrieking sound with powerful emotional content.
“When, after I had come to realize that the abduction of December 26, 1985 had really happened and did apparently involve nonhuman beings, I began trying to go out into the woods at night with the intention of re-engaging. On a couple of occasions, I heard a horrible sound, an unearthly, protracted shrieking. It had powerful emotional content, so it wasn't a machine.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:24131-24491 testimony first hand
1179
During an intense encounter at his brownstone in Brooklyn Heights, Whitley Strieber found one of the grays leaping on his back and crying with great intensity as he lurched along a corridor.
“I heard it again when we were living in a brownstone in Brooklyn Heights, when an intense encounter took place there, and I found one of them leaping on my back and crying with great intensity in this way as I lurched along a corridor.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:24570-24796 testimony first hand
1180
Whitley Strieber has heard gasps from both the grays and from beings who appear human but cannot speak except telepathically.
“I have also heard gasps, both from the grays and from beings who seem human but cannot speak except telepathically.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:25072-25172 testimony first hand
1181
Whitley Strieber came to believe that the boy who appeared at his cabin and later in Texas was his own child.
“I have come to believe that this person—a boy—was my child.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:25909-25962 opinion first hand
1182
Whitley Strieber has heard a cry vocalisation from the grays unlike any human or animal cry, which on one occasion was the most emotionally compelling utterance he has ever heard.
“The other vocalization I have heard is a cry, but it is nothing like a human or animal cry. On one of the two occasions this was produced, it was the most emotionally compelling utterance of any kind that I have ever heard.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:26191-26408 testimony first hand
1183
When Whitley Strieber's son was nine years old, he and Anne Strieber became aware that a being who had been physically intimate with Whitley Strieber was taking an interest in the boy, and would hear her craft come over the house making a sound like slowing ball bearings.
“When Anne and my son was nine, we became aware that the being who had been physically intimate with me was taking an interest in him. I would hear her craft come over the house, making the sound of ball bearings ticking together in something that had been spinning very quickly, but was now slowing down.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:26950-27249 testimony first hand
1184
Whitley Strieber's son had at one point been taken directly out of the house, which contributed to Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber's decision to send him to summer camp.
“not to mention that our son had been taken right out of the house at one point, we were quite concerned and decided that we wanted him out of the house. We sent him off to summer camp.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:27469-27648 testimony first hand
1185
A couple of nights after Whitley Strieber's son left for summer camp, the being's craft came down over the roof and into the yard beside the boy's bedroom, and Whitley Strieber heard three cries in which he could hear surprise and disappointment.
“A couple of nights after he left, she appeared. I heard her craft come down over the roof and into the yard beside his bedroom. A moment later, there were three cries. I could hear the surprise and disappointment in them, as clear as if she had spoken words.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:27655-27907 testimony first hand
1186
A few days after Whitley Strieber's son went to summer camp, the camp director called to explain that the boy had suddenly disappeared from the face of the earth in front of a large group of children playing soccer.
“A few of days later, though, a call came from the director of the camp explaining that he had suddenly disappeared from the face of the earth in front of a large group of children playing soccer.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:28070-28258 testimony second hand
1187
Whitley Strieber described the three cries he heard near the meadow as incredibly rich, richer than music and richer than the most emotional of human voices.
“I have since realized that they were also incredibly rich, far richer than music, richer than the most emotional of our voices.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:29134-29254 testimony first hand
1188
One February morning just before dawn, Whitley Strieber was awakened by a long trumpet note coming from the woods and rushed outside to find a large object hovering and making a clanking sound.
“Then, one February morning just before dawn, I was awakened by a long trumpet note coming from the woods. I threw on my robe and slippers and rushed outside. As I was hurrying toward a clearing where I could see a large object hovering and making a clanking sound”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:29753-30011 testimony first hand
1189
During the February morning encounter, Whitley Strieber heard a rough, nasty-sounding telepathic voice say "Come on, come on" and, finding it menacing, returned to the cabin instead of approaching the hovering object.
“At once, I heard a rough and nasty-sounding telepathic voice say, “Come on, come on.” It sounded menacing. I thought I might go down there and never return. So, I went back to the cabin.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:30058-30238 testimony first hand
1190
A few moments after entering the house following the February morning encounter, Whitley Strieber experienced a visual communication in the form of an image appearing in his mind's eye.
“A few moments after I entered the house, there was a visual communication in the form of an image appearing in my mind's eye.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:30830-30951 testimony first hand
1191
The blood of cattle contains abundant copper.
“The blood of cattle contains abundant copper”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:32786-32824 observation first hand
1192
Whitley Strieber considers human beings to have an even higher copper content in their blood than cattle, but believes the visitors avoid humans and instead use livestock.
“Human beings have an even higher copper content in their blood, but our visitors are no fools. They leave us alone and make use, instead, of our own “prey” species—our livestock.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:33043-33211 opinion first hand
1193
Linda Moulton Howe reported there was no blood found around the carcass in the 1979 Elsie, Colorado cattle mutilation case, despite the extensive nature of the mutilation.
“Linda reported that there was no blood found around the carcass, despite the extensive nature of the mutilation.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:33841-33942 testimony second hand
1194
A lack of blood around the carcass is a common but not universal feature of cattle mutilations.
“This lack of blood is a common but not universal feature of cattle mutilations.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:33954-34021 observation first hand
1195
Bovine blood is rich in copper.
“Bovine blood is rich in copper”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:34034-34058 observation first hand
1196
In cattle mutilation cases, the liver is often found missing, and the liver has a high copper content.
“The liver, also often found to be missing, has a high copper content.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:34211-34272 observation first hand
1197
Whitley Strieber considers the collagen in the entities' bones to strengthen the bone and the hydroxyapatite to aid ion exchange and other supportive functions.
“The collagen would strengthen the bone and the hydroxyapatite would aid in ion exchange and perform other supportive functions.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:34749-34866 opinion first hand
1198
Various earthly creatures, including humans, have traces of copper oxide in their bones, but the amount reportedly found in the cadavers described in the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy is larger, suggesting a more important function.
“There are traces of copper oxide in the bones of various earthly creatures, including humans, but the large amount reportedly found in the cadavers would suggest a more important function than it has among creatures that have evolved here.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:34877-35111 opinion first hand
1199
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that the copper in the entities' bones may function in some esoteric way, perhaps related to signalling.
“I do think that it's possible that the copper may function in some esoteric way, perhaps even related to signaling.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:35327-35432 opinion first hand
1200
Whitley Strieber considers the presence of copper in the entities' bones a sign that the author of the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy is correct that the creatures are designed organisms rather than the product of evolutionary adaptation.
“It is another sign that the author of the document is correct, and these creatures are designed organisms. This therefore means that things like the copper in their bones is not an adaptation to some unknown environment but the result of a design decision.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:35527-35774 opinion first hand
1201
Copper is an electrical conductor and can function as an antenna.
“It is an electrical conductor and can be an antenna, but the real reason for it may be more esoteric.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:35873-35965 observation first hand
1202
Whitley Strieber states the craft associated with the visitors are known to generate powerful magnetic fields, and although copper is nonmagnetic, it can interact with such fields in several ways.
“The craft are known to generate powerful magnetic fields, and while copper is nonmagnetic, there are a number of ways that it can interact with such fields.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:35976-36125 opinion first hand
1203
When copper is exposed to an active electromagnetic field, eddy currents are created in the copper which generate small magnetic fields of their own, an effect called Faraday's law of induction that induces repulsion useful for braking a magnetic field, electromagnetic shielding, and heat generation.
“When copper is exposed to an active electromagnetic field, eddy currents are created in the copper which generate small magnetic fields of their own. This effect, called Faraday's law of induction, induces repulsion, which could be used in braking the magnetic field, electromagnetic shielding and heat generation.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:36133-36436 observation first hand
1204
Whitley Strieber considers it likely that copper-rich bodies interacting with a magnetic field means the pilots of the craft are in a state of symbiosis with the craft, literally part of the machine, but probably able to detach and engage in other activities.
“There are so many possible ways that a copper-rich body might interact with a magnetic field that it seems to me likely that this is the reason that the copper is present. If so, then these pilots can be seen to be not just engaging in guidance like our pilots, but as actually being in a state of symbiosis with the craft, literally part of the machine, but probably also able to detach from it and engage in other activities.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:36556-36972 opinion first hand
1205
Whitley Strieber describes the grays as having brains 20 percent larger than human brains and containing four lobes instead of three.
“I say this because these frail and seemingly robotic creatures also have huge brains, 20 percent larger than ours and containing four lobes instead of three.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:36985-37136 observation first hand
1206
Whitley Strieber considers the leading candidate for the grays' mission objectives to be abductions.
“As to what these might be, I think that the leading candidate must be the abductions.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:37329-37403 opinion first hand
1207
Whitley Strieber believes the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy is worth consideration because some of its described characteristics coincide with unusual attributes he has personally observed in such creatures while they were alive, which he has not found recorded elsewhere.
“Because some of the characteristics described in the document coincide with some very unusual attributes that I have personally observed in such creatures while they were alive, and which I have not found recorded in any public document except that one, I believe that it is worth consideration”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:4976-5257 opinion first hand
1208
In 1988, Whitley Strieber met General Arthur Exon, who had seen and held one of the Roswell bodies and perceived it the same way, as insectlike.
“Only later, in 1988, would I meet General Exon, who saw and held one of the bodies, and perceived it the same way.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:6164-6274 testimony second hand
1209
Whitley Strieber states that a height of about 150 centimetres would have been the height of the beings that were coming around his cabin in the late 1980s, and a little taller than what Walter Haut remembered.
“This would have been the height of the ones that were coming around my cabin in the late 1980s, and a little taller than what Walter Haut remembered.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:6577-6715 observation first hand
1210
Whitley Strieber believes he witnessed, in the fall of 1986, a function of the nonhuman beings that, to his knowledge, is otherwise mentioned publicly only in the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy.
“I saw this function in action, I believe, in the fall of 1986... to my knowledge, is mentioned publicly only in the document.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:6912-6975 observation first hand
1211
Whitley Strieber told only Budd Hopkins about the function he observed in the beings in 1986, and Hopkins was disgusted and thought Strieber must have been dreaming.
“The only person I told about it was Budd Hopkins. He was disgusted and thought I must have been dreaming, so I put it aside.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:6975-7093 testimony first hand
1212
Neither Whitley Strieber nor Budd Hopkins ever wrote publicly about the excretory function Strieber observed in 1986.
“To my knowledge, neither of us ever wrote about it.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:7100-7148 administrative first hand
1213
Whitley Strieber saw three gray beings standing under a grove of pine saplings about fifteen metres from his cabin, just before dawn, in an event he believes took place around the fall of 1986.
“I went to the bedroom window and saw three of the gray beings standing under the shadows of a grove of pine saplings about fifty feet from the cabin.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:7416-7559 observation first hand
1214
Whitley Strieber observed that when he usually saw the gray beings and tried to engage with them, they immediately disappeared.
“Usually, when I saw them and tried to engage with them, they immediately disappeared.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:7566-7639 observation first hand
1215
Some months before the 1986 sighting, one of the gray beings apparently could not disappear and grew frantic, gasping and thrashing through the brush in a panic as Whitley Strieber walked closer.
“Some months before this, one of them apparently couldn’t manage it, and as I walked closer it grew frantic, gasping and thrashing away through the brush in a panic.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:7652-7810 observation first hand
1216
General Arthur Exon told Whitley Strieber, after Strieber published Communion in 1987, that everybody from Harry Truman on down knew within twenty-four hours of finding it that what had been found was not of this world.
“General Exon told me after I published Communion in 1987 that “everybody from Truman on down knew that what we had found was not of this world within twenty-four hours of our finding it.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:795-978 testimony second hand
1217
Whitley Strieber believes the nonhuman beings' desperation to avoid disclosure stems from the fact that if anything substantive ever appears publicly about them, they would lose their main tool for keeping humanity helpless, which is human ignorance of them.
“The effort to escape was so desperate because they knew the stakes: If anything substantive ever appears in public about them, they are going to lose the main tool they have for keeping us helpless, which is our ignorance of them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:8127-8352 opinion first hand
1218
Whitley Strieber believes that disclosure of the nonhuman beings' presence is probably up to humanity, but that contact is up to them.
“Disclosure of their presence here is probably up to us, but contact is not. Contact is up to them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:8358-8451 opinion first hand
1219
During the 1986 sighting, Whitley Strieber approached the three gray beings to within about nine metres before they looked at him, and they did not react further despite his tension.
“I moved a bit closer. When I was perhaps thirty feet away from them, they did look at me. I stopped... they neither moved nor stopped what they were doing.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:8635-8815 observation first hand
1220
During the 1986 sighting, Whitley Strieber heard no telepathic signals from the gray beings despite having experienced telepathic contact with them more than once before.
“I heard no telepathic signals. (By that time, this had happened to me more than once, so I was prepared not to react with surprise to telepathic contact, possibly scaring them off, but it did not happen.)”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:8922-9118 observation first hand
1221
During the 1986 sighting, Whitley Strieber observed the gray beings brushing what appeared to be crystalline sheets of material off their arms, with more seeming to ooze from their skin as it was removed.
“I could see that they were brushing something off their arms. It appeared to be crystalline sheets of material. As soon as they would brush some off, more seemed to ooze out of their skin.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:9258-9441 observation first hand
1222
Whitley Strieber detected a faint acrid odour during the 1986 sighting that he thought might be ammonia.
“There was a faint odor in the air, acrid, and I thought it might be ammonia.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:9447-9515 observation first hand
1223
Whitley Strieber told Budd Hopkins that the ammonia-like process he observed was how the gray beings relieved themselves.
“I recall telling Budd that this was how they relieved themselves.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch11:9524-9578 testimony first hand
1224
The green fluorescence observed under ultraviolet light on the bodies of some close encounter witnesses tends to persist even after bathing.
“This tends to persist even after bathing, although there is no data to indicate that it might be permanent.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch12:12642-12739 hearsay second hand
1225
Fluorescent handprints have been observed in the dwellings of some people claiming close encounters.
“Also, fluorescent handprints have been observed in the dwellings of some people claiming close encounters.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch12:12750-12845 hearsay
1226
Whitley Strieber has personally observed the nonhuman visitors moving in tandem with the movements of his own eyes and then suddenly disappearing.
“I have observed them moving with the movements of my own eyes, then suddenly disappearing.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch12:15229-15306 testimony first hand
1227
The bowhead whale has a nearly 10:1 ratio of type one to type two muscle fibres, matching the ratio described for the nonhuman beings in the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy.
“The bowhead whale, which swims for longer periods than any other cetacean, has a nearly 10:1 ratio of type one to type two muscle, the only animal on record that has a ratio similar to that the gray visitors are said in the document to possess.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch12:2121-2357 observation
1228
Whitley Strieber has personally observed the use of both slow-twitch and fast-twitch muscle groups in the nonhuman beings.
“I have seen the use of both muscle groups.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch12:2974-3009 testimony first hand
1229
During the 1988 cabin encounter with the documentary filmmaker, the filmmaker was awakened by a small man with a huge head staring down at him.
“In 1988, when a documentary filmmaker was at our cabin, as I reported in Breakthrough, he was awakened by a small man with a huge head staring down at him.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch12:3132-3283 testimony second hand
1230
During the 1988 cabin encounter, when the documentary filmmaker reacted with fear, the being's head appeared to turn into that of a falcon before the being disappeared.
“When he reacted with fear, the head turned into that of a falcon, and then the being disappeared.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch12:3288-3373 testimony second hand
1231
Whitley Strieber considers the falcon-head transformation during the 1988 cabin encounter to have been the creature reacting to the filmmaker's fear response with a defensive mechanism similar to that of a blowfish, making itself seem more dangerous.
“What I think had happened was that the creature had reacted to his fear response with a defensive mechanism something like that of a blowfish, in the sense that it had made itself seem more dangerous than it probably was.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch12:3386-3603 opinion first hand
1232
During the 1988 cabin encounter, Whitley Strieber and his son saw a translucent silver figure racing across the cabin deck and darting off among the trees at high speed as dawn broke.
“We saw a translucent silver figure go racing across the deck, then dart off among the trees, dodging around them at blinding speed.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch12:4321-4446 observation first hand
1233
During the 1988 cabin encounter, the documentary filmmaker and his wife experienced a burst of heat so intense that they leaped up thinking the bed was on fire.
“Meanwhile, the filmmaker and his wife experienced a burst of heat so intense that they leaped up, thinking that the bed was on fire.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch12:4453-4580 testimony second hand
1234
Whitley Strieber has personally seen gray, brown, and iridescent blue colouring among the nonhuman visitors.
“I have seen gray, brown and an iridescent blue.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch12:8560-8602 testimony first hand
1235
Whitley Strieber has observed nonhuman visitors moving with what he describes as lightning speed on a number of occasions.
“which I have seen them do on a number of occasions”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch12:992-1033 testimony first hand
1236
On the evening of 1976-08-09, Cicilio Higinio Pereira was walking home with friends in Brazil when they saw a light in the sky that came closer and appeared to follow them.
“On the evening of August 9 of that year, Cicilio Higinio Pereira was walking home with some friends when they saw a light in the sky that began to come closer.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:1002-1154 testimony third hand
1237
Among Brazilian investigators, there is a suggestion that the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) might have warned the Brazilian military that an object was headed for the area where it fell during the 1996 Varginha incident.
“Among Brazilian investigators, there is some suggestion that the North American Air Defense Command, NORAD, might have warned the military that the object was headed for the area where it fell.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:10240-10428 hearsay
1238
The Brazilian military appeared prepared to embark on a search mission in the Varginha area on the night of the 1996 incident and delivered an injured person to a local hospital while stating that there was nothing unusual about the case.
“the military does seem to have been prepared to embark on a search mission of some kind in the Varginha area that night. They also delivered an injured person to a local hospital, but said that there was nothing unusual about the case.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:10483-10713 observation first hand
1239
The 1996 Varginha incident began with the sighting of a strange humanoid creature by three young women, Liliane Fatima Silva, her sister Valquira Silva, and their friend Katia Xavier, who saw a small creature slumped against a wall while walking along a road on the outskirts of Varginha.
“The event that began the case involved the sighting of a strange humanoid creature by three young women who were walking along a road on the outskirts of town. These three girls, Liliane Fatima Silva, her sister Valquira and their friend Katia Xavier, saw a small creature slumped against a wall.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:10969-11260 testimony third hand
1240
The creature seen by the three girls in Varginha had red, slanted eyes and three knobs on its head, which made it immediately obvious that it was no ordinary creature.
“The red, slanted eyes and the three knobs on its head made it immediately obvious to the girls that it was no ordinary creature.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:11266-11385 testimony third hand
1241
During the 1976 encounter, Cicilio Higinio Pereira found himself pinned almost beneath a strange flying machine, close enough to touch it, and felt a cold wind, heard a faint humming sound, and smelled sulfur.
“Cicilio could not keep up with the others and soon found himself almost pinned beneath a strange flying machine. It was so close to him that he could reach up and touch it. He felt a cold wind and heard a faint humming sound. There was a smell of sulfur in the air”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:1237-1498 testimony third hand
1242
Two military police officers on patrol observed a similar injured creature later on the night of the 1996 Varginha girls' sighting and stopped to investigate.
“Later on the night the girls ran from the creature, two military police officers on patrol observed a similar creature that appeared injured, and stopped to investigate.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:13157-13314 testimony second hand
1243
Officer Marco Eli Cherese, aged 23, participated in the capture of the injured creature during the 1996 Varginha incident, and the creature resisted mildly, causing Cherese to handle it as he got it into the car.
“When one of them, Officer Marco Eli Cherese, just 23 years old, participated in a capture, the creature resisted mildly, causing Officer Cherese to handle it as he got it into the car.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:13327-13507 testimony second hand
1244
Officer Marco Eli Cherese died within two weeks of capturing the Varginha creature.
“Within two weeks, he was dead.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:13513-13538 observation second hand
1245
When Roger Leir was in Brazil in 2002, he attempted to interview Officer Cherese's wife, but she would only confirm that her husband had died in the hospital and would not give further details.
“When Dr. Leir was in Brazil in 2002, he attempted to interview the officer’s wife, but she would not give any details beyond the fact that her husband had indeed died in the hospital.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:13637-13811 testimony second hand
1246
Tests revealed that Marco Eli Cherese's blood was significantly contaminated, containing 8 percent of unknown toxic substances.
“Tests revealed that Cherese’s blood was significantly contaminated, containing 8 percent of “unknown toxic substances.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:14402-14509 measurement
1247
After Marco Eli Cherese died, government officials demanded that his family cremate his body immediately, which was done.
“After the young man died, government officials demanded that the family cremate the body immediately, which was done.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:14522-14634 observation
1248
During the 1976 encounter, Cicilio Higinio Pereira saw three men, three to four feet tall, inside the translucent object.
“he could see three men, three to four feet tall, inside the object, which was translucent”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:1507-1585 testimony third hand
1249
When the creature was observed at Humanitas Hospital during the 1996 Varginha incident, it was found to have a broken leg, and orthopaedic surgeons were directed to set the bone, with no doctors becoming sick due to careful contamination-prevention procedures.
“When the being was observed at the Humanitas Hospital, it was seen that it had a broken leg. Orthopedic surgeons were directed to set the bone, which they did. (I might add, here, that careful procedures were used to prevent contamination, and none of the doctors got sick.)”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:15176-15444 observation second hand
1250
Roger Leir noticed a change in attitude of the medical personnel he interviewed: they first claimed to be thirdhand witnesses, but as they talked it became clear they were actually firsthand witnesses and participants.
“Roger does remark that he noticed a change in the attitude of the individuals involved as he talked with them. They first claimed to be thirdhand witnesses, but when they talked, it became clear that they were actually firsthand witnesses and participants.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:15829-16072 testimony second hand
1251
The eyes of the Varginha creature were large and red and stared at the ceiling with a blank stare.
“The eyes of the Varginha alien “were large and red and staring at the ceiling with a blank stare.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:16665-16756 observation second hand
1252
The eyes of the Varginha creature were large, slightly upturned toward the lateral aspects, oriental-looking, red in colour, and looked like two glimmering pools of liquid.
““The eyes were large, slightly upturned toward the lateral aspects, oriental looking. They were red in color and looked like two glimmering pools of liquid.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:17025-17173 observation second hand
1253
The doctors treating the Varginha creature did not want to look into its eyes.
“The doctors did not want to look into the eyes.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:17183-17225 observation second hand
1254
Whitley Strieber's experience is that one cannot help but look into the eyes of these nonhuman beings if that is wanted of them.
“My experience of this is that you cannot help but look into them if that is wanted of you”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:17231-17317 opinion first hand
1255
The Varginha creature is described as having four fingers without a thumb.
“The being is described as having “four fingers” without a thumb.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:17957-18015 observation second hand
1256
In Whitley Strieber's experience, one of the nonhuman beings' fingers functions as a thumb, though there is no way to tell which one just by looking, which is why he described it that way in Communion.
“one of these fingers does work as a thumb, in my experience, but there is no way to tell which one just by looking at them... This is why I described it as I did in Communion.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:18151-18322 opinion first hand
1257
"The boy" (the hybrid child at Strieber's cabin) exhibited a snake-like movement of the fingers that Whitley Strieber observed in his house.
“the snake-like movement that the little boy saw in our house”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:18992-19047 observation first hand
1258
The Varginha creature's size (just below five feet, or approximately 1.5 metres), its fingers, and the power of its eyes are consistent with both Whitley Strieber's own observations and the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy.
“The size of the individual (just below five feet), the fingers, the power of the eyes, if not their appearance, all comport with both my observations and the biology document.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:19087-19253 opinion first hand
1259
The Varginha interview states that the creature's blood was red, while the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy describes it as brown, which Whitley Strieber attributes to the presence of metabolic copper.
“The interview states that the blood was red, but the biology document describes it as brown, probably because of the presence of so much metabolic copper.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:19739-19886 opinion first hand
1260
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that the transport mechanism described in the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy is hemocyanin rather than hemoglobin, and that the document's author was unaware of the difference between the two.
“It seems possible that the transport mechanism is indeed hemocyanin, but that the author of the document was not aware of the difference.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:20115-20241 opinion first hand
1261
Whitley Strieber considers it more likely that the high platelet count observed in the 1996 Varginha UFO incident creature was a response to its injuries rather than to something about Earth's air, since the creature was not in respiratory distress.
“He speculates that this might have been because of something about our air, but since it was not in respiratory distress, it is more likely that the high platelet count was a response to its injuries”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:20621-20812 opinion first hand
1262
Whitley Strieber considers the ability to alter platelet count in the 1996 Varginha UFO incident creature to be either a natural adaptation triggered by a wound, or something the creature could do intentionally.
“the ability to alter the count might either be a natural adaptation that is triggered by a wound, or something that the creature can do intentionally”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:20841-20977 opinion first hand
1263
Whitley Strieber considers the discrepancies between the Varginha interview and the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy to be important and logically consistent, suggesting the interview was not used to fake the document.
“The important and also logically consistent discrepancies between the two documents would suggest that this is not the case.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:21187-21306 opinion first hand
1264
Throughout the 1970s, while abductions were occurring in substantial numbers in the United States, attacks similar to Cicilio Higinio Pereira's occurred across Brazil.
“Throughout the 1970s, while abductions were happening in substantial numbers in the United States, attacks like this were taking place across Brazil.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:2145-2287 observation first hand
1265
Whitley Strieber considers dizziness and nausea a typical reaction when a genuine thought-transfer experience like the one described by the Varginha doctor occurs, as opposed to a fantasy.
“which is a typical reaction when this actually happens to somebody and isn’t a fantasy”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:23219-23298 opinion first hand
1266
Abduction cases reported in the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, and to some extent other countries in the 1970s were carefully organised and generally involved removal of the target from their home during the night with later return, usually leaving only a confused memory and little physical harm, without reported deaths or disappearances.
“the abduction cases being reported in the U.S., Canada, the U.K., Australia, and to some extent in other countries were carefully organized and generally involved the removal of the target individual from their home in the middle of the night, then their return sometime later, often with only a confused memory and little physical harm. Deaths and disappearances were not reported.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:2349-2722 opinion first hand
1267
In Brazil, people were attacked while awake, usually outdoors, rather than being abducted while asleep, and victims were often injured and terrified.
“People were not being abducted while asleep, but rather being attacked while awake, usually while outdoors. They were often injured and certainly always terrified.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:2796-2949 opinion first hand
1268
Whitley Strieber has been unable to find evidence for classic abductions involving removal of sexual material in the Brazilian cases.
“I have been unable to find any evidence for classic abductions with the removal of sexual material.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:2960-3050 observation first hand
1269
Victims of Brazilian UFO incidents in the 1970s were often injured by beams of light from above or by getting close to the objects involved.
“Often, victims were injured by beams of light from above or simply by getting too close to the objects involved.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:3273-3376 observation first hand
1270
Some victims of Brazilian UFO light-beam incidents felt that the beams were extracting blood from their bodies, though this could not be followed up.
“A number of them felt that the beams of light were extracting blood from their bodies, but there is no way to follow this up.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:3386-3508 opinion first hand
1271
The Brazilian Air Force conducted an extensive investigation into the Colares UFO incidents in 1977 and 1978, interviewing between two hundred and three hundred people.
“There were so many cases that the Brazilian Air Force conducted an extensive investigation in 1977 and 1978. Between two hundred and three hundred people were interviewed.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:3748-3907 administrative second hand
1272
Claudiomira Rodrigues saw a man standing in an object floating nearby and described his eyes as very small, unlike the distinctive eyes of the greys.
“Claudiomira saw a man standing in an object that was floating nearby. She described his eyes as “very small,” in other words not like the distinctive eyes of the grays, which are anything but small.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:4275-4467 testimony third hand
1273
During the attack on Claudiomira Rodrigues, the man wore what looked like a diving suit, and she could only tell that it had a head and two arms.
“He wore what looked to her like a diving suit, so she really couldn’t tell what was there, only that it had a head and two arms.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:4474-4597 testimony third hand
1274
During the attack on Claudiomira Rodrigues, the man carried what looked like a pistol which he pointed at her, and three narrow beams of light like lasers struck her in the chest.
“He carried what looked to her like a pistol, which he pointed at her. Three narrow beams of light, like lasers, struck her in the chest.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:4603-4733 testimony third hand
1275
The burns from the attack on Claudiomira Rodrigues left three pinpoint scars in a triangle on the upper right side of her chest, above her right breast.
“The burns left three pinpoint scars in a triangle on the upper right side of her chest, just above her right breast, meaning that the attack was carried out with great precision.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:4811-4979 observation third hand
1276
After the attack, Claudiomira Rodrigues immediately became very thirsty and found she could not move her legs.
“She immediately became very thirsty and found that she could not move her legs.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:4990-5064 testimony third hand
1277
Claudiomira Rodrigues's screaming woke her cousin Maria, who began screaming too, after which the man and the light disappeared and Maria helped Claudiomira get to the hospital for treatment of her burns.
“She began to scream, which woke up her cousin Maria, sleeping in the next room. Maria began screaming, too. The man and the light disappeared and, a few minutes later, Maria helped Claudiomira get to the hospital, where her burns were treated.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:5167-5402 testimony third hand
1278
Silvia Maria Trinidade, who was five months pregnant, was hit by a beam of light from a UFO in the settlement of Tapiapanema in the interior of Mosqueiro Island, and was so distraught that she lost her baby and her marriage failed.
“An example is one that took place in a tiny settlement called Tapiapanema, in the interior of Mosqueiro Island. A seventeen-year-old girl, Silvia Maria Trinidade, who was five months pregnant, was hit by a beam of light from a UFO. She was so distraught that she lost her baby and her marriage failed.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:5488-5782 testimony third hand
1279
Silvia Maria Trinidade was seventeen years old at the time of the 1977 Tapiapanema incident.
“A seventeen-year-old girl, Silvia Maria Trinidade”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:5600-5640 administrative third hand
1280
The Tapiapanema incident took place on the evening of 1977-10-29, while Silvia Maria Trinidade and her husband Benedito, aged twenty-four, were lying down; Silvia woke up and saw a light in the sky before a beam of light shone into the house and touched her arm.
“This incident took place on the evening of October 29, 1977, as Silvia and her husband, Benedito, twenty-four, were lying down. "Silvia woke up and saw a light in the sky." The next thing she knew, a beam of light was shining into the house. When it touched her arm, her screams woke up Benedito.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:5791-6078 testimony third hand
1281
During the Tapiapanema incident, neighbours ran outside and saw the bright object, and one of them shot at it with a rifle, after which it disappeared.
“The neighbors all ran outside (the settlement contained only a few houses) and saw the bright object. One of them shot at it with a rifle, and it disappeared.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:6089-6235 testimony
1282
Brazil has arguably the most powerful and provocative history of UFO encounters in the world.
“a country with arguably the most powerful and provocative history of UFO encounters in the world. That country is Brazil.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:614-728 opinion first hand
1283
While Silvia Maria Trinidade and her husband travelled by boat to the hospital in Mosqueiro, a roughly one-hour trip, the UFO reappeared and shone a light down on the river for about fifteen minutes.
“Silvia was taken down the river to the hospital in Mosqueiro. While she and her husband were in their boat (it was an hour’s trip) the UFO reappeared and shone a light down on the river for about fifteen minutes.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:6249-6453 testimony third hand
1284
Silvia Maria Trinidade was not burned but had a bruise where the light touched her left arm, spent a week in hospital, and lost the baby two months later.
“Silvia was not burned, but there was a bruise where the light had touched her left arm. She was in the hospital for a week and lost the baby two months later.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:6463-6615 testimony third hand
1285
The Brazilian attacks subsided across the early 1980s, some years before the 1996 Varginha UFO incident began.
“It happened some years after the attacks, which subsided across the early eighties.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:6940-7014 observation first hand
1286
On 1996-01-20, a series of unusual events unfolded in the vicinity of Varginha, Brazil.
“On January 20, 1996, a series of unusual events unfolded in the vicinity of Varginha, Brazil.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:7025-7111 administrative second hand
1287
Like John Mack, Roger Leir's license to practise medicine was challenged, and he had to deal with a nuisance lawsuit that caused his practice to decline.
“Like John Mack, his license to practice was challenged. He had to deal with a nuisance suit. His practice declined.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:8022-8128 observation first hand
1288
Whitley Strieber knew Roger Leir well, and when Leir first heard of the Varginha case in 2002 he called Strieber and asked him to travel to Brazil with him, but Strieber's schedule did not permit it.
“I knew Dr. Leir well, and when he first heard of the case in 2002, he called me and asked me to go to Brazil with him. My schedule, unfortunately, did not permit it.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:8191-8353 testimony first hand
1289
While in Varginha, Roger Leir called Whitley Strieber to tell him he had just conducted what he thought was one of the most amazing interviews ever done in the history of UFO research.
“When he was in Varginha, he called me again to tell me that he had just conducted what he thought was one of most amazing interviews ever done in the history of UFO research.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:8406-8571 testimony second hand
1290
Whitley Strieber considers Roger Leir's Varginha interview to stand as one of the most amazing interviews ever done anywhere, on any subject.
“Actually, it was more than that. It stands as one of the most amazing interviews ever done anywhere, on any subject.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:8581-8689 opinion first hand
1291
Whitley Strieber considers the Varginha UFO incident to be one of the most extraordinary UFO cases ever recorded, comparable in that regard to the Ariel School incident that John Mack investigated in Zimbabwe.
“What had happened that led up to it has proved to be one of the most extraordinary UFO cases ever recorded, joined in that regard by the Ariel School incident that Dr. John Mack investigated in Zimbabwe.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:8699-8893 opinion first hand
1292
Whitley Strieber never doubted Roger Leir's truthfulness when Leir told him the Varginha story.
“I was, too, when he told me. There was never the slightest doubt in my mind about his truthfulness.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:9259-9345 opinion first hand
1293
The Wall Street Journal's 1996-07-12 article reported that on a Saturday afternoon stroll in January 1996, three young women took a shortcut home through a vacant lot and, in a clump of weeds, encountered a creature like nothing they had seen before.
“On a Saturday afternoon stroll in January, a trio of young women decided to take a shortcut home through a vacant lot. In a clump of weeds, the three said, they encountered a creature like nothing they had seen before.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:9532-9743 testimony second hand
1294
The creature encountered in the 1996 Varginha incident was not a grey of the type that has been autopsied; it had three knobs on its head and huge red eyes.
“It was also not a gray of the type that has been autopsied. It had three “knobs” on its head and huge red eyes.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch13:9753-9859 observation first hand
1295
The boy who showed up at Whitley Strieber's cabin looked fairly human but had an ability to interact with the mind that humans do not share, which Whitley Strieber experienced as a cloying, intrusive horror akin to another presence inside his intimate being.
“the boy who showed up at our cabin looked fairly human but had a shocking ability to interact with the mind that we do not share. It was a cloying, intrusive horror, to feel another presence inside one's intimate being”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:10178-10391 testimony first hand
1296
Whitley Strieber recalls the sense of a "good army" that accompanied the woman who managed his abduction and later became an intimate, if elusive, participant in his life and the life of his family.
“I can recall the sense of a “good army” that accompanied the much more dynamic person who managed my abduction and later became an intimate, if elusive, participant in my life and the life of my family.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:1022-1217 testimony first hand
1297
Whitley Strieber experienced that when the boy at his cabin was present, the most intimate acts of Whitley Strieber's life would leap unexpectedly to mind or be pulled up from his depths.
“When he was there, the most intimate acts of my life would leap unexpectedly to mind, or rather, be pulled up from my depths.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:10531-10649 testimony first hand
1298
Whitley Strieber could not tolerate the invasive experience caused by the boy at his cabin and drove him off.
“I could not tolerate it, and drove him off.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:10821-10860 testimony first hand
1299
The boy who showed up at Whitley Strieber's cabin suffered from what appeared to both Whitley Strieber and his wife as some sort of autism.
“He also suffered from what appeared to both me and my wife as some sort of autism.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:10866-10941 observation first hand
1300
Whitley Strieber believes the boy who showed up at his cabin was the outcome of a mind skilled at genetic manipulation, and that this mind, from his personal observation, has created many other such beings as well.
“I am describing him because he was the outcome of a mind that has skill at genetic manipulation, and, I think, must have created him and, as I now know from personal observation, many others as well.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:11043-11237 opinion first hand
1301
Whitley Strieber considers that the difficulties experienced by the boy at his cabin reflect a limited competence, and thinks the motivation behind creating such hybrids is more likely desperation than hubris.
“I must say that I see, in the obvious difficulties being experienced by that poor, lost boy, a limited competence. So why do it? It could be hubris, but, looking at the overall situation, I think it is more likely to be desperation.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:11428-11649 opinion first hand
1302
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy states that for the genes it examined, "there doesn't seem to be any artificial refinement but a crude copying and pasting."
“The document goes on to say, “For these genes, there doesn't seem to be any artificial refinement but a crude copying and pasting.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:11765-11887 hearsay second hand
1303
Whitley Strieber describes the nonhuman beings' invasion of human homes to gather sexual material as having taken place from the 1960s through at least the early 2000s.
“their pell-mell invasion of our homes to gather sexual material that took place from the 1960s through at least the early 2000s”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:12174-12296 opinion first hand
1304
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that the nonhuman beings have run out of novel DNA (Deoxyribonucleic Acid) combinations and can no longer generate individuals that have not already existed, though he thinks this is unlikely given it would take billions of years for humans to reach that point.
“Could it be that they have run out of novel DNA combinations and can no longer generate individuals that have not already existed? Given that it would take billions of years for us to reach this same point, it seems unlikely.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:12521-12738 opinion first hand
1305
Whitley Strieber notes that the cadavers he refers to display a very simple genome.
“the cadavers we have studied display a very simple genome.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:12757-12808 observation first hand
1306
Whitley Strieber considers that the nonhuman beings' abductions might be part of a larger attempt to establish workable communications with humans, promoting communion between the species so they can affect human survival decisions more directly, given their warnings about the dangers of nuclear war and environmental collapse.
“Given their warnings about the dangers of nuclear war and environmental collapse, it would seem that they want us to survive, so I think that consideration should also be given to the idea that the abductions might be part of a larger attempt to establish workable communications with us, probably part of an attempt to promote more of a communion between the species so that they can affect our survival decisions more directly.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:12853-13273 opinion first hand
1307
Whitley Strieber suggests the nonhuman beings' idea would be to create "bridge" creatures containing enough of both their and human DNA (Deoxyribonucleic Acid) so their brains would have a perceptual system including both, enabling communication with both species.
“The idea would be to create “bridge” creatures, containing enough of both their and our DNA so that their brains would have a perceptual system that included enough of theirs and ours that they could communicate with both.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:13283-13500 opinion first hand
1308
The boy at Whitley Strieber's cabin had human eyes and ears and probably saw and heard as humans do.
“The boy, for example, had human eyes and ears, and thus probably saw and heard as we do.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:13506-13591 observation first hand
1309
The boy at Whitley Strieber's cabin was telepathic and could communicate as the nonhuman beings do, but could not speak and could only gasp and grunt, which Whitley Strieber considers one reason the experiment was a failure.
“Because he was also telepathic, he could communicate as they do. However, like them, he could not speak, but only gasp and grunt, which was one reason that the experiment was a failure.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:13595-13772 observation first hand
1310
Whitley Strieber and his family kept returning to the woman who managed his abduction despite a persistent sense of danger at the cabin.
“despite all that was unfolding in our lives at the cabin, and the persistent sense of danger, we kept returning.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:1363-1465 testimony first hand
1311
The sounds made by the boy at Whitley Strieber's cabin were the sounds of a human being who had been rendered voiceless by a birth defect, rather than subtle and emotionally charged sounds.
“His sounds were not subtle and emotionally charged, though. They were the sounds of a human being who had been rendered voiceless by a birth defect.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:13781-13922 observation first hand
1312
Whitley Strieber recalls that the boy at his cabin smoked constantly, and has since seen others like him do the same.
“I have mentioned elsewhere that the boy smoked constantly, and I have since seen others like him who do the same.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:14614-14722 testimony first hand
1313
At one point, unidentified nonhuman beings tried to get Whitley Strieber to vape, with the implication that doing so would allow him to become more directly a part of their community.
“At one point, they tried to get me to vape. The implication was that this would make it possible for me to become more directly a part of their community.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:14728-14872 testimony first hand
1314
The boy at Whitley Strieber's cabin displayed obvious symptoms of sensory overload and could not bear to look at another person.
“The boy displayed obvious symptoms of sensory overload... He was suffering from such gross sensory overload that he could not even bear to look at another person.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:14948-15142 observation first hand
1315
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that the beings he encountered may have intentionally bred some individuals to be autistic, without regard to the effect this would have on their experience of life.
“There is another possibility, and it is disturbing. It is that these people may have been intentionally bred to be autistic, without regard to the effect this would have on their experience of life.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:15391-15584 opinion first hand
1316
The boy at Whitley Strieber's cabin displayed extreme nonverbal sensitivity and heightened pattern recognition, and shared mental states with Whitley Strieber, including the ability to penetrate directly into his mind.
“The boy displayed extreme nonverbal sensitivity and, I think, heightened pattern recognition. He certainly experienced shared mental states, because he shared some with me. He could penetrate right into my mind.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:15590-15796 observation first hand
1317
When the boy at Whitley Strieber's cabin penetrated his mind, thoughts of a sexual nature would come boiling up from Whitley Strieber's depths, making him feel he was narrating his own private fantasies to a stranger and could not stop himself.
“What would happen to me would be that thoughts, usually of a sexual nature and not always appealing, would come boiling up from my depths and I would be made to feel “on stage,” as if I was narrating my own private fantasies to a complete stranger and could not stop myself.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:15802-16069 testimony first hand
1318
In The ESP Enigma, Diane Hennacy Powell shows that numerous unvoiced people on the autism spectrum demonstrate unmistakable telepathy with their families, friends and caregivers.
“Dr. Diane Hennacy Powell's book The ESP Enigma, confirms this. In it, she shows that numerous unvoiced people on the autism spectrum demonstrate unmistakable telepathy with their families, friends and caregivers.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:16572-16773 testimony second hand
1319
Diane Hennacy Powell initially had her medical license revoked as a result of her research findings on telepathy in autistic people, and later regained it after proving she was mentally sound.
“Dr. Powell suffered for this scientific heresy, initially having her license revoked. She regained it, but only after proving that she was mentally sound.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:16785-16933 testimony
1320
The boy at Whitley Strieber's cabin and beings like him live, as far as Whitley Strieber is aware, in communities of their own and present a wary face to the world around them.
“This gets me back to the boy and those like him. They live, as far as I am aware, in communities of their own and present a wary face to the world around them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:17181-17335 opinion first hand
1321
Whitley Strieber suggests the boy and others like him could have been intentionally crippled through flawed genetic engineering in order to enable them to communicate with the grays, who lack the anatomy necessary to form words but are fluently telepathic.
“but it seems also that they could have been crippled in this way on purpose, in order to enable them to communicate with the grays, who, as we have seen, do not have the anatomy necessary to form words but who are fluently telepathic.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:17651-17874 opinion first hand
1322
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that the nonhuman visitors do not possess the same moral compass as humans, or perceive their situation as so desperate that they set aside moral constraints, given that they provided information via crashing disks containing living occupants, conducted abductions, and created hybrids with no apparent concern for their personal welfare.
“The fact that our visitors provided us with information by crashing disks containing living occupants, took us in abductions and created hybrids with no apparent concern about their personal welfare suggests the possibility that they do not possess the same moral compass that we do, or that they perceive the situation as so desperate that they feel that they must put any moral constraints aside.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:17887-18279 opinion first hand
1323
Whitley Strieber notes that humanity is in jeopardy due to population pressure stressing the planetary environment.
“We know that we are in jeopardy due to the population pressure that is stressing our planetary environment.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:18370-18465 opinion first hand
1324
Whitley Strieber questions whether the nonhuman visitors are more intellectually capable than humans, given their hybridisation failures.
“We assume that they must be more intellectually capable than we are, but given their hybridization failures, which I will shortly discuss in more detail, I would question this.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:18700-18871 opinion first hand
1325
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy reports that the genome it examined consists of 16 circular chromosomes.
“If they are so capable, then why is it, as the Reddit document reports, that their genome consists of “16 circular chromosomes”?”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:18878-18993 hearsay second hand
1326
In the human world, circular chromosomes are not associated with complex life forms.
“In our world, circular chromosomes are not associated with complex life forms.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:19007-19079 observation first hand
1327
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy describes the beings it examined as eukaryotes.
“And yet they are also described in the document as eukaryotes.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:19086-19137 hearsay second hand
1328
A eukaryote is a creature with a membrane-bound cell nucleus containing its DNA (Deoxyribonucleic Acid), and such a nucleus is essential to higher-functioning creatures such as animals and human beings.
“(A eukaryote is a creature with a membrane-bound cell nucleus containing its DNA. Such a nucleus can be very complex and is essential to higher-functioning creatures such as animals and human beings.)”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:19209-19400 observation
1329
On Earth, all eukaryotes depend on linear chromosomes because their complexity requires chromosomes that can interact with each other in order to properly replicate and segregate genetic material and maintain genomic stability.
“On Earth, all eukaryotes depend on linear chromosomes. This is because their complexity requires chromosomes that can interact with each other in order to properly replicate and segregate genetic material and maintain genomic stability.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:19410-19636 observation
1330
Whitley Strieber's late wife, Anne Strieber, was someone for whom he felt not just affection but a towering love that continues to enrich him after her death.
“a lovely, warm wife for whom I felt not just affection, but a towering love that to this day enriches me, even all these years after her passing.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:1951-2088 testimony first hand
1331
Exclusively circular chromosomes are found in simple creatures like bacteria, which do not have a need for complex interactions within the genome.
“Exclusively circular chromosomes are found in simple creatures like bacteria, which do not have a need for complex interactions within the genome.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:19647-19786 observation
1332
Circular chromosomes are present inside some eukaryotic cells as supporting structures rather than primary ones.
“Circular chromosomes are also present inside some eukaryotic cells, but they are supporting structures, not primary ones.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:19998-20114 observation first hand
1333
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy states that the chromosomes of the creatures it describes are entirely circular, unlike the circular chromosomes in eukaryotic cells that depend on linear chromosomes.
“The document does not describe the circular chromosomes occurring in eukaryotic cells that depend on linear chromosomes, but says that the chromosomes of the creatures are entirely circular.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:20121-20302 hearsay second hand
1334
Whitley Strieber considers that if the entities described in the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy are designed rather than natural biology, circular chromosomes would be easier to manipulate because their lower interactivity makes them more stable and involves fewer, less complex decision points during genome creation.
“First, if the creatures are designed rather than natural biology, circular chromosomes are going to be easier to manipulate because their lower interactivity means that it is going to be easier to ensure that they will be stable, and there are going to be fewer and less complex decision points as the genome is created.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:20373-20685 opinion first hand
1335
Whitley Strieber considers that the absence of larger intergenic regions inherent in linear chromosomes would make an organism with circular chromosomes simpler to design but less flexible.
“Second, the absence of the larger intergenic regions inherent in linear chromosomes mean that the organism is going to be simpler to design, although also less flexible.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:20694-20854 opinion first hand
1336
Whitley Strieber considers that using only circular chromosomes may make an organism more stable because of the absence of loose ends.
“there may be another benefit to using only circular chromosomes, which is that they are inherently more stable because of the lack of "loose ends."”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:20986-21127 opinion first hand
1337
Whitley Strieber considers that circular chromosomes may make an organism somewhat more resistant to radiation damage by reducing the potential effect of breakages.
“this would reduce the potential effect of breakages, which would likely add another advantage, because the organism would be somewhat more resistant to radiation damage.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:21154-21316 opinion first hand
1338
John Burroughs experienced tissue degradation after he stood in close proximity to a UFO during the 1980 Rendlesham Forest incident.
“there are stories of people being injured in various ways, such as tissue degradation, which happened to John Burroughs after he stood in close proximity to a UFO during the Rendlesham Forest incident in 1980.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:21487-21691 hearsay
1339
John Burroughs experienced damage to his heart after his exposure to a UFO during the 1980 Rendlesham Forest incident.
“He experienced damage to his heart”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:21697-21726 hearsay
1340
Senator John McCain intervened to force the Department of Defense to declassify John Burroughs's medical records so he could receive treatment for his continuing health problems.
“it took intervention by Senator John McCain to force the Department of Defense to declassify his medical records so that he could receive treatment for his continuing problems.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:21737-21904 testimony
1341
John Burroughs's case is one of the few in which medical records have been classified by the Department of Defense.
“His remains one of the few cases in which medical records have been classified by the Department of Defense.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:21914-22014 testimony
1342
Whitley Strieber considers that the circular chromosomes of the entities described in the anonymous Reddit document are circular in part because the greater durability that results is a useful protective strategy.
“It can thus be reasonably concluded that the chromosomes are circular in part because the greater durability that results makes this a useful protective strategy.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:22024-22177 opinion first hand
1343
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy describes the entities' genome as having 16 evenly spaced chromosomes.
“the use of simpler patterns and a limitation to just 16 evenly spaced chromosomes mean an easier design process, probably needed because of the limited proficiency of the designers.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:22239-22410 hearsay second hand
1344
Whitley Strieber considers that the simple, limited chromosome design of the entities described in the anonymous Reddit document suggests the designers had limited proficiency.
“the use of simpler patterns and a limitation to just 16 evenly spaced chromosomes mean an easier design process, probably needed because of the limited proficiency of the designers.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:22239-22410 opinion first hand
1345
Eukaryotic cells need linear chromosomes to function properly because circular chromosomes lack points of communication between them.
“Eukaryotic cells need linear chromosomes to function properly, the reason being that circular chromosomes will lack points of communication between them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:22996-23144 observation first hand
1346
DNA repair is compromised in cells with circular chromosomes, randomly offsetting the greater stability that circular chromosomes provide.
“DNA repair is going to be compromised, randomly offsetting the greater stability.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:23150-23221 observation first hand
1347
The absence of mechanisms needed in eukaryotic cells to ensure the cell cycle runs correctly can cause mitosis to be unstable in organisms with circular chromosomes.
“The absence of the mechanisms needed in eukaryotic cells to ensure that the cell cycle runs correctly will mean more problems. It could cause mitosis to be unstable, if it works at all.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:23232-23413 observation first hand
1348
Unstable mitosis in organisms with circular chromosomes can result in missegregation and aneuploidy, an abnormal number of chromosomes.
“This will result in missegregation and an aberration known as aneuploidy, which is an abnormal number of chromosomes.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:23418-23523 observation first hand
1349
Whitley Strieber observed symptoms in "the boy" (the hybrid child at Strieber's cabin) that he associates with aneuploidy, specifically symptoms consistent with an extra X chromosome.
“I mention this specifically because aneuploidy can cause visible symptoms, and I think that I observed some of those symptoms in the boy. Specifically, these symptoms would have been present if he had an extra X chromosome.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:23537-23749 opinion first hand
1350
Depending on where chromosome breaks occur, aneuploidy can cause a range of different syndromes, of which five are the most prevalent.
“Depending on where the breaks occur, aneuploidy can cause a range of different syndromes, with five of them being the most prevalent.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:23762-23885 observation first hand
1351
Whitley Strieber considers Klinefelter syndrome the most likely candidate to explain the symptoms he observed in "the boy" (the hybrid child at Strieber's cabin).
“Of these, one in particular, Klinefelter syndrome, seems the most likely candidate in his case.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:23896-23986 opinion first hand
1352
Whitley Strieber has since met other males like "the boy" who appeared to him to display the same symptoms.
“I have since met other males like him, and they seem to me to have been displaying the same symptoms.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:23992-24084 testimony first hand
1353
Klinefelter syndrome is caused by a failure of chromosomes to separate normally during the formation of reproductive cells, which leads to an additional X chromosome.
“Klinefelter syndrome is caused by a failure of chromosomes to separate normally during the formation of reproductive cells, which leads to the additional X chromosome.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:24094-24250 observation first hand
1354
There is a high rate of autism among boys who suffer from Klinefelter syndrome.
“there is a high rate of autism among boys who suffer this tragedy”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:24298-24356 observation first hand
1355
Boys with Klinefelter syndrome generally display delayed or interrupted puberty.
“they generally display symptoms that include delayed or interrupted puberty.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:24373-24441 observation first hand
1356
Whitley Strieber briefly saw two girls he associates with the hybrid entities and noted they were uneasy when near him, but could not evaluate their condition otherwise.
“As to girls, I have briefly seen two, but I cannot evaluate their condition except to say that they were uneasy when near me.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:24450-24572 testimony first hand
1357
Klinefelter syndrome is most often seen in boys born to older women.
“the syndrome is most often seen in boys born to older women.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:25003-25057 observation first hand
1358
Whitley Strieber recalled asking the woman depicted on the cover of Communion whether she was old, and she replied "I am old."
“I recall asking the woman on the cover of Communion if she was old and getting the reply, "I am old."”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:25064-25160 testimony first hand
1359
Whitley Strieber considers that "the boy" (the hybrid child at Strieber's cabin) suffered from Klinefelter syndrome, at least to some extent.
“Given both his condition and this fact, I think that the boy did indeed suffer from Klinefelter syndrome, at least to some extent.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:25167-25290 opinion first hand
1360
"The boy" (the hybrid child at Strieber's cabin) was severely autistic and could not speak.
“Additionally, he was severely autistic and, to make matters worse, could not speak.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:25298-25375 observation first hand
1361
Whitley Strieber's experience of "the boy" (the hybrid child at Strieber's cabin) was that he was telepathic.
“My experience of him, as I have said, was that he was telepathic.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:25382-25436 testimony first hand
1362
Whitley Strieber suggests "the boy" (the hybrid child at Strieber's cabin) may have been telepathic because of Klinefelter syndrome, which would indicate this was an intentional choice by the designers rather than poor genetic engineering.
“He may have been that way because of the syndrome, which would suggest that this may not have been due to a poor choice of genetic engineering at all, but the result of an intentional choice.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:25497-25681 opinion first hand
1363
Whitley Strieber suspects that the boy who visited his cabin may have been the outcome of his intimacy with the woman who managed his abduction.
“Then I think of what she did to me and the tragic boy who may have been the outcome of our intimacy”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:2555-2646 opinion first hand
1364
Whitley Strieber states he cannot usefully speculate about the motives of the entities' designers given his current level of knowledge.
“Unfortunately, given my current level of knowledge, I can only offer these questions. I cannot usefully speculate about motives.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:25929-26049 opinion first hand
1365
Whitley Strieber considers it an important assertion of The Fourth Mind that humans must not regard the visitors as gods or saviours.
“is as clear an example as I can offer of what might be the most important assertion in this book, which is that we must not regard our visitors as gods or saviors.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:26266-26421 opinion first hand
1366
Whitley Strieber considers the visitors to be a complex, brilliant, subtle and yet strangely limited presence.
“They are a complex, brilliant, subtle and yet strangely limited presence.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:26430-26494 opinion first hand
1367
Whitley Strieber wonders whether he became entrapped in Stockholm syndrome, the tendency of a captive to identify with their captors, in relation to the woman who managed his abduction.
“I think of Stockholm syndrome, the tendency of a captive to identify with their captors. Was I so dominated by her I became entrapped in this way?”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:2724-2866 opinion first hand
1368
Whitley Strieber considers a possible reason hybrids exist is that beings who are themselves artificial and inefficiently constructed are attempting to improve themselves by combining their DNA with human DNA.
“a possible reason that we are seeing hybrids at all is that beings who are themselves artificial and too inefficiently constructed to be really viable are attempting to improve themselves by combining their DNA with ours.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:27463-27679 opinion first hand
1369
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy supports the idea that the entities' attempts to improve themselves through hybridisation with human DNA have not been successful.
“what I have seen, and what the Reddit document supports, suggests as much.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:27757-27826 hearsay second hand
1370
"The boy" (the hybrid child at Strieber's cabin) was left in the woods behind Whitley Strieber's house with no support offered to him or explanation given to Strieber's household.
“The boy, after all, was simply left in the woods behind our house, with no support offered to him or explanation to us. No introductions, no instructions.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:28200-28341 testimony first hand
1371
"The boy" (the hybrid child at Strieber's cabin) was protective toward Whitley Strieber and his household.
“he was protective toward us, and I have seen that from others.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:28469-28524 testimony first hand
1372
Whitley Strieber's visitor encounters have shown a startling combination of provocative and protective behaviour.
“A startling combination of provocative and protective. I have since seen that combination often.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:28532-28622 testimony first hand
1373
Whitley Strieber describes the visitors' method of protecting him as attacking and scaring him off rather than warning him.
“To protect me, they don't warn me. Instead, they attack me and scare me off.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:28629-28701 testimony first hand
1374
Whitley Strieber considers that compassion toward humans was shown at the 1996 Varginha UFO incident, Brazil.
“There is compassion toward us, which was shown at Varginha and is of enormous value to us, as we shall see in later chapters.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:29196-29312 opinion first hand
1375
Whitley Strieber considers the cadavers of the nonhuman entities to be biological engineering, limited in flexibility and proficiency, and more likely purpose-built receptacles than independent entities like humans.
“The cadavers are biological engineering, but limited in their flexibility and proficiency. They would appear to be purpose-built receptacles rather than independent entities like us.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:29325-29504 opinion first hand
1376
Whitley Strieber considers that hybrids with humanoid bodies possessing powers such as telepathy but lacking the ability to talk have been created, and that many of them seem significantly flawed.
“Hybrids with humanoid bodies who possess powers such as telepathy but lack the ability to talk have been created. These creatures, or many of them, seem to be significantly flawed.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:29511-29684 opinion first hand
1377
Whitley Strieber considers the possible objectives of the visitors to be raising human technological level, demonstrating that humans have forgotten important powers, and creating a bridge species that can communicate with both sides.
“it is to be hoped that these are the objectives: first, to raise our technological level; second, to demonstrate to us that we have vitally important powers that we have forgotten how to use; third, to create a bridge species that can communicate with both sides.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:29722-29979 opinion first hand
1378
Whitley Strieber considers the overall effort of the visitors to be flawed and, in some critical areas, a failure, suggesting they are not experienced at establishing contact.
“It is flawed and in some critical areas a failure. These flaws and failures can mean only one thing: They are not old hands at this. They are feeling their way and, so far, not all that successfully.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:30171-30357 opinion first hand
1379
Astronomers have calculated, based on the prevalence of planets in the Milky Way Galaxy, that there are as many as 21.6 sextillion planets in the universe as a whole.
“The most likely answer lies in the calculation of astronomers, based on the prevalence of planets in our immediate area of the Milky Way Galaxy, that there are as many as 21.6 sextillion planets in the universe as a whole.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:30692-30908 measurement
1380
Whitley Strieber describes encountering a creature with a brain consisting of four hemispheres rather than two as an example of ultra-high strangeness.
“there could be few things stranger than encountering a creature that has a brain consisting of four hemispheres rather than two.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:31632-31756 observation first hand
1381
The Roswell cadavers had no sex organs.
“The Roswell cadavers had no sex organs, and therefore must have been fabricated.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:3180-3249 observation first hand
1382
Whitley Strieber considers that the Roswell cadavers must have been fabricated because they had no sex organs.
“The Roswell cadavers had no sex organs, and therefore must have been fabricated.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:3180-3249 opinion first hand
1383
Whitley Strieber describes the Roswell cadavers as having huge, extraordinary brains.
“But then how is it that they had the huge, absolutely extraordinary brains that we found?”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:3311-3394 observation first hand
1384
In Transformation (p. 30), Whitley Strieber describes observing one of the beings open a drawer containing stacks of bodies like their own, encased in what looked like cellophane, with open eyes and mouths wide as if with surprise.
“After seeing one of them open a drawer, I wrote: “In that drawer were stacks of bodies like their own, all encased in what looked like cellophane. Their eyes were open, their mouths wide as if with surprise.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:4454-4652 testimony first hand
1385
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that if the 1947 Roswell UFO incident was also a donation, it included sacrificial victims.
“If the Roswell crash was also a donation, then it included sacrificial victims as well.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:462-544 opinion first hand
1386
Whitley Strieber observed that the drawer of stacked bodies was opened with a prideful flourish, as if he was being shown something the two beings clearly thought was wonderful.
“The oddest thing was the way the drawer was opened with a prideful flourish. I was being shown something the two of them clearly thought was wonderful.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:4697-4838 observation first hand
1387
Whitley Strieber believes that these beings must normally exist in some other state of being and use bodies to enter our reality as humans use scuba gear to penetrate the depths of the sea.
“I think that they must normally exist in some other state of being and that they use bodies to enter our reality as we use scuba gear to penetrate the depths of the sea.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:4851-5016 opinion first hand
1388
Whitley Strieber considers it probable that the cadavers held at Fort Detrick had the same significance to their now-departed occupants as the bodies in the drawers he observed had to theirs: not the final essence of the being, but a tool for entering the physical world.
“then it seems to me probable that the cadavers at Fort Detrick had the same significance to their now-departed occupants as the bodies in the drawers would have had to theirs: they were not the final essence of the being at all, but simply a tool to be put to use when it was necessary to penetrate into the physical world.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:5145-5462 opinion first hand
1389
Whitley Strieber notes that the hybrids created between humans and the nonhuman beings appear to be afflicted with some of the same deficiencies as the cadavers.
“why are the hybrids that they seem to have created between us and them afflicted with some of the same deficiencies as the cadavers?”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:5903-6026 observation first hand
1390
Whitley Strieber has read letters in the archive at Rice University indicating that the perceptual and intellectual gap between humans and the nonhuman beings is vast.
“Whatever the final answer, reading the letters in the archive at Rice University, it becomes evident that the perceptual and intellectual gap between us is vast.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:6282-6438 opinion second hand
1391
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy states that the beings it describes are "artificial, ephemeral and disposable organisms created for a purpose that still partially eludes us."
“The DNA evidence presented in the Reddit document is summed up by the statement, “They are artificial, ephemeral and disposable organisms created for a purpose that still partially eludes us.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:695-883 hearsay second hand
1392
Whitley Strieber interprets Genesis 3:22 as a record of a time in human development when humans came to know themselves as beings separate from the rest of the living world.
“I am not suggesting that we were programmed, but rather asserting that this is a record of a time in human development when we came to know ourselves as beings separate from the rest of the living world.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:8325-8522 opinion first hand
1393
Whitley Strieber believes humanity was driven by a prolonged and extremely violent natural catastrophe to recognise itself as individuals in order to survive.
“We were driven by a prolonged and extremely violent natural catastrophe to recognize ourselves as individuals. In order to survive, we had to.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:8614-8753 opinion first hand
1394
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy expresses surprise that the beings' genetics "are like ours, based on DNA" (Deoxyribonucleic Acid), noting that beings from an alternate biosphere would have been expected to have genetics based on a completely different biochemical system.
“The document begins with an expression of surprise that “their genetics are like ours, based on DNA.” It continues, “We imagine that beings from an alternate biosphere would have genetics based on a completely different biochemical system.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:9086-9318 hearsay second hand
1395
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy states that some genes correspond directly, nucleotide by nucleotide, with known human genes or even some animal genes.
“The document mentions that “some genes correspond directly, nucleotide by nucleotide, with known human genes or even some animal genes.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:9436-9565 hearsay second hand
1396
Whitley Strieber asserts that genetic material is removed from human bodies during abductions, and considers this probably the primary reason for the abductions.
“During abductions, genetic material is removed from our bodies. That is probably, in fact, the primary reason for the abductions.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch14:9872-9990 opinion first hand
1397
Whitley Strieber proposes that exquisite control of the fine structure constant might be what enables the nonhuman visitors to appear and disappear at will, walk through walls, change their form, and generate independent gravity fields.
“It might be that exquisite control of this is what enables our visitors to engage in seemingly supernatural acts like appearing and disappearing at will, walking through walls, changing their form, and even generating independent gravity fields”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:10575-10813 opinion first hand
1398
Whitley Strieber considers it an open question whether the nonhuman visitors are more intelligent than humans, and finds it surprising if they were.
“Whether they are more intelligent than we are is an open question. On balance, I would find it surprising if they were.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:1087-1201 opinion first hand
1399
Whitley Strieber considers it likely that humanity possessed the ability to perceive reality from an external perspective in the distant past.
“The reason is that there is evidence that we possessed it in the distant past.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:11588-11661 opinion first hand
1400
Whitley Strieber reasons that smaller brain sections in the nonhuman visitors mean less activity per section and therefore a greater need for communication between sections.
“One reason is that smaller sections mean less activity per section and therefore more need for communication between sections.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:1207-1324 opinion first hand
1401
Whitley Strieber has had a personal experience that suggested time travel is possible.
“For all the talk of time travel, and even a personal experience that suggested that it’s possible”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:13329-13418 observation first hand
1402
Whitley Strieber suspects that time does not exist in the sense of being a natural force, but is instead an effect generated by a hidden physical process, a 'time factor' present everywhere and in everything.
“I suspect that time doesn’t exist, in the sense that it is an effect generated by a hidden physical process, a sort of “time factor” that is present everywhere and in everything”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:13428-13595 opinion first hand
1403
In a 2024 paper titled 'A magnetic clock for a harmonic oscillator', Alessandro Coppo, Alessandro Cuccoli and Paola Verrucchi describe an experiment suggesting that time does not exist but is a side effect of quantum entanglement.
“In a 2024 paper titled “A magnetic clock for a harmonic oscillator,” Alessandro Coppo, Alessandro Cuccoli and Paola Verrucchi describe an experiment that suggests that time indeed does not exist, but rather that it is a side effect of quantum entanglement”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:13608-13851 observation second hand
1404
Whitley Strieber suggests that if humans could become disentangled from everything that enforces duration, the human mind would join the mind of the nonhuman visitors on the outside of time.
“Then the human mind would join the mind of our visitors on the outside of the world.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:14645-14723 opinion first hand
1405
Whitley Strieber believes that humans do not need a tetraspheric brain to gain the powers displayed by the nonhuman visitors, because humans have possessed such powers in the past.
“If so, then we do not need a tetraspheric brain to gain these powers.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:15171-15233 opinion first hand
1406
Whitley Strieber suggests that the human brain, with its large and complex hemispheres and a less encumbered communications system, may be better equipped to acquire and use the visitors' powers than their own tetraspheric brains are.
“our brains, with their large and extremely complex hemispheres, and what must be a far less encumbered communications system, may actually be better equipped to acquire and use these same powers than theirs are”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:15250-15457 opinion first hand
1407
Whitley Strieber proposes that the tetraspheric brain of the nonhuman visitors may be a compromise brought about by the difficulty of engineering the much more complex genetic structure that large hemispheres like the human brain require.
“the tetraspheric brain may be a compromise brought about by the difficulty in engineering the much more complex genetic structure that large hemispheres like ours require”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:15527-15690 opinion first hand
1408
Whitley Strieber does not view the nonhuman visitors as more intelligent than humans, but rather as different, based on how they act and what they do.
“the more important reason that I don’t see them as being more intelligent so much as different is how they act and what they do”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:1571-1696 opinion first hand
1409
Whitley Strieber suggests that the nonhuman visitors are trying to obtain what humans have by extracting genetic material from humans, while using secrecy to keep humans believing they are powerless to resist.
“we are finding ourselves confronted by a species that is fundamentally less potentiated than we are, and is at once trying to get what we have by extracting genetic material from us, and also using secrecy to make sure that we continue to believe we are powerless to resist”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:15953-16220 opinion first hand
1410
Whitley Strieber believes that humans will eventually be able to use the same tools as the nonhuman visitors, probably more effectively, and suspects the visitors are aware of this and uneasy about it.
“in the end it seems likely that we will be able to use the same tools they do, and probably more effectively, and I would assume that they know this and are uneasy about it”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:16270-16440 opinion first hand
1411
Whitley Strieber suggests that the contradictions and conflicts observed among the nonhuman visitors probably reflect that they are divided about whether or not humanity should be allowed to awaken.
“The contradictions and conflicts that we see among them probably reflect the fact that they are divided about whether or not we should be allowed to awaken.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:16573-16722 opinion first hand
1412
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy sent to Whitley Strieber in 2024 describes visitors' brains as 'tetraspheric', composed of four parts rather than the two hemispheres of the human brain.
“our visitors’ brain is “tetraspheric,” which means that, unlike our brains, which have two parts, or hemispheres, it is composed of four parts”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:214-351 hearsay second hand
1413
Whitley Strieber has known alien-human hybrids who have genetic diseases.
“the alien-human hybrids, at least the ones I have known, have genetic diseases”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:2176-2246 observation first hand
1414
Whitley Strieber does not consider it reasonable to conclude that the nonhuman visitors are more intelligent than humans, given evidence of mediocre genetic design and genetic diseases in alien-human hybrids.
“Given all this, I don’t think it’s reasonable to conclude that our visitors are more intelligent than we are.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:2256-2361 opinion first hand
1415
In The Master and His Emissary, neurologist Iain McGilchrist argues that the two hemispheres of the human brain actually share the processing load, with the capabilities of one supporting those of the other.
“In his book The Master and His Emissary, neurologist Iain McGilchrist points out that the two hemispheres actually share the processing load, in the sense that the capabilities of one support those of the other.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:2575-2780 opinion second hand
1416
According to Iain McGilchrist, the creativity of the right hemisphere is supported by the analytical thinking of the left hemisphere, and together they produce new ideas and variants on old ones.
“Thus, the creativity of the right hemisphere is supported by the analytical thinking of the left, and together they produce new ideas and new variants on old ones.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:2787-2945 opinion second hand
1417
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy lists ultra-fast travel (with and without a vehicle), unlimited propulsion, and gravity control as abilities of the nonhuman visitors.
“Group 1—Movement / --Ultra-fast travel, with and without a vehicle. / --Unlimited propulsion. / --Gravity control.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:3722-3825 hearsay second hand
1418
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy lists invisibility, levitation, self-healing, and form changing as personal abilities of the nonhuman visitors.
“Group 2—Personal Effects / --Invisibility. / --Levitation. / --Self-healing. / --Form changing,”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:3835-3917 hearsay second hand
1419
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy lists telepathy, mind control, removal of souls from bodies, and creation of false memories in others as mental abilities of the nonhuman visitors.
“Group 3—Mental Effects / --Telepathy. / --Mind control. / --Removal of souls from bodies. / --Creation of false memories in others.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:3928-4048 hearsay second hand
1420
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy states that the nonhuman visitors' brains are only 20 percent larger than human brains.
“the document also states that the brains are only 20 percent larger than ours”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:435-508 hearsay second hand
1421
Whitley Strieber speculates that all of the movement, personal, and mental abilities attributed to the nonhuman visitors may be primarily internal to the beings themselves, rather than technologies.
“As will be seen, however, it may be that all of these powers are primarily internal to the beings themselves, and not technologies at all.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:4744-4878 opinion first hand
1422
A case reported in Them describes an attempted removal of a person's self, or soul, from his body, involving the throbbing presence of what must have been some sort of machine above the victim's house.
“One case of an attempted removal of a person’s self, or soul, from his body, as reported in Them, involved the throbbing presence of what must have been some sort of machine above the victim’s house.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:4884-5077 testimony second hand
1423
Whitley Strieber does not see why the genetic engineering and science of the nonhuman visitors should be assumed to be unknowable or much more advanced than human science, given that their genetic engineering is demonstrably inferior to ours in some key respects.
“as their genetic engineering is demonstrably inferior to ours in some key respects, I don’t see why we should assume that their science is unknowable to us, or even that much more advanced”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:5564-5744 opinion first hand
1424
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy describes the nonhuman visitors' brains as having more complex gyrification, or folding, than human brains, giving them a larger surface area.
“They are described as having more complex gyrification, or folding, than our brains, meaning that they have a larger surface area”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:578-703 hearsay second hand
1425
Whitley Strieber argues that the laws of physics do not currently allow for faster-than-light travel.
“the laws of physics do not allow for faster-than-light travel”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:6284-6339 opinion first hand
1426
Whitley Strieber argues there is no known medium through which thought can be transmitted directly from one mind to another under current physics.
“there is no known medium through which thought can be transmitted directly from one mind to another”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:6347-6439 opinion first hand
1427
Whitley Strieber proposes that for telepathy to work, something must happen that cannot happen under the laws of reality as currently understood.
“for telepathy to work, something has to happen that cannot happen in reality as we now know it”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:6830-6922 opinion first hand
1428
Whitley Strieber states that there are thirteen underlying constants that control the laws of nature.
“The thirteen underlying constants that control the laws of nature are what must be controlled for these things to be done.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:7155-7272 opinion first hand
1429
Whitley Strieber suggests that ultra-rapid movement, gravity control, and infinite propulsion by the nonhuman visitors would require changing physical constants, including removing the speed of light as a limitation.
“group one—ultra-rapid movement, gravity control and infinite propulsion—must require changing some of the constants. In this case, the speed of light has to be removed as a limitation”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch15:7696-7869 opinion first hand
1430
The phenomenon of missing time, in which people can be blanked out as if under anaesthesia, means it cannot be known how deeply the visitors are penetrated into human lives and the world.
“Phenomena like "missing time," when people can be blanked out as if on anesthesia, means that we cannot know just how deeply our visitors are penetrated into our world and our lives.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch16:10941-11117 opinion first hand
1431
Whitley Strieber describes the Varginha alien as capable of a sort of healing that cannot be explained by a greater level of intelligence alone.
“the sort of healing that the Varginha alien was capable of. Not even a greater level of intelligence can explain these”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch16:13373-13486 opinion first hand
1432
Whitley Strieber suspects there are far fewer of the visitors present on Earth than they would like people to believe, possibly only a few.
“Similarly, I suspect that there are far fewer of them here than they would like us to believe. It's not inconceivable that there are only a few of them on Earth.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch16:15459-15614 opinion first hand
1433
During his February 1988 stay at his cabin, Whitley Strieber refused to go with the visitors.
“when I returned to our cabin after refusing to go with the visitors in February of 1988”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch16:3343-3426 testimony first hand
1434
After refusing to go with the visitors in February 1988, Whitley Strieber was plunged into a vivid memory of taking his first steps as a baby, experienced as though his adult consciousness had been sent back in time to his infant body.
“I was plunged into the moment when, as a baby, I took my first steps. This was a memory, but not at all what we normally experience. It was perfect, as if my adult consciousness had been sent back in time to my baby body.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch16:3432-3648 testimony first hand
1435
An abundance of witnesses report that the visitors used to take sexual material from people from the 1960s through the early 2000s, tapering off after that.
“An abundance of witnesses, including this one, report that they used to take sexual material from us. This happened from the 1960s through the early 2000s and seems to have trailed off.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch16:632-813 testimony first hand
1436
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that the visitors have devised a better way of abducting people without leaving residual memories.
“Of course, it's also possible that they have devised a better way of abducting us without leaving residual memories.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch16:818-925 opinion first hand
1437
Whitley Strieber believes the nonhuman visitors are here seeking communion with humans because they long to return to the stream of time, since for humans every moment is new.
“I think that they are here looking for a very particular sort of experience: They want communion with us because they long to return to the stream of time. For us, every moment is new.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:10064-10244 opinion first hand
1438
Whitley Strieber states that the nonhuman visitors provided him what he describes as an absolutely perfect recording of the moment he first walked.
“One such scrap of evidence is their ability to offer me an absolutely perfect recording of the moment I first walked.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:1029-1139 testimony first hand
1439
Whitley Strieber believes humans perceive three dimensions and live inside a fourth dimension, which is duration, experienced as time.
“We perceive three dimensions and live inside a fourth, which is duration, or, as we experience it, time.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:10564-10663 opinion first hand
1440
Whitley Strieber believes that if the nonhuman visitors understand entropy perfectly, as he thinks the evidence suggests, then they live outside the fourth dimension of time.
“If they understand entropy perfectly, and I think that there is every evidence that they do, then they live also outside of the fourth dimension of time.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:10669-10817 opinion first hand
1441
Whitley Strieber believes the nonhuman visitors experience time as flowing past them rather than as a medium they live in, seeing present, past, and future with the clarity humans see only the present.
“our four-dimensional friends experience time as the fisherman does the river, as something flowing past them, not as a medium they live in and cannot see beyond. This means that they see present and past and future with the same clarity that we see only the present.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:11753-12011 opinion first hand
1442
Whitley Strieber describes feeling anguish when looking into the eyes of the nonhuman visitors, as if they see one's whole truth from the beginning of consciousness to whatever fate holds.
“If you ever have a chance to look into their eyes, you will feel the same anguish that I and others felt, as if they are looking into you more deeply than you yourself can... they are seeing your whole truth, from the moment your consciousness began to whatever fate time and chance have in store for you.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:12020-12350 testimony first hand
1443
Whitley Strieber believes the nonhuman visitors are not here to capture or dominate humans, but rather to share in human freedom and innocence.
“They are not here to capture us or dominate us, but rather for the opposite reason: They want to share our freedom and our innocence.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:12649-12772 opinion first hand
1444
Whitley Strieber describes feeling known when a nonhuman visitor locks eyes with him, seeing what it sees, which he describes as all he has known through time.
“Second is how it feels when they lock eyes with you. Once one of those small, slight, insignificant-looking creatures does this, you feel known. You see what it sees, which is all you have known through time, all you have been.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:1267-1489 testimony first hand
1445
Whitley Strieber believes it is not accidental that the nonhuman visitors are emerging into human awareness at the moment humanity itself is moving toward infinite knowledge.
“I wouldn’t think that it’s an accident that they are emerging into our world just at the moment that we are ourselves moving toward infinite knowledge.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:12940-13081 opinion first hand
1446
Whitley Strieber believes humanity currently faces a danger of physical extinction while the nonhuman visitors face what he calls the eternal coffin of their knowledge.
“We are facing a danger of physical extinction, they the eternal coffin of their knowledge.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:14170-14250 opinion first hand
1447
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy states that the Exo-Biospheric-Organisms (EBOs) believe the soul is not an extension of the individual but a fundamental characteristic of nature that expresses itself as a field, comparable to gravity.
“The EBOs, it states, “believe that the soul is not an extension of the individual, but rather a fundamental characteristic of nature that expresses itself as a field, not unlike gravity.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:2253-2431 hearsay second hand
1448
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy states that in the presence of life, the soul-field described in the document acquires complexity, and this complexity grows as life-forms gain self-awareness until the field begins to express itself through sentient beings.
“In the presence of life, this field acquires complexity.” As life-forms gain in self-awareness, the complexity grows, until the field “begins to express itself through these sentient beings.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:2440-2623 hearsay second hand
1449
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy states that the life experiences of sentient beings enrich the soul-field until it reaches a "critical mass" and an "apotheosis" takes place, which is described as the main goal of the Exo-Biospheric-Organisms (EBOs).
“The life experiences of the sentient beings enrich the field, until it reaches what the document describes as a “critical mass” and an “apotheosis” takes place. The main goal of the EBOs, the document explains, is this apotheosis.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:2632-2851 hearsay second hand
1450
Whitley Strieber observes that the Greek word "apo" means "away" and "theosis" means "from God," so "apotheosis" can be read as meaning "away from God."
“Apo in Greek also means “away.” Theosis” means “from God.” “Away from God,” therefore is another way of seeing what is meant here.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:3076-3201 opinion first hand
1451
The anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy states that the apotheosis process described results in "negative entropy."
“The document goes on to mention that this process results in “negative entropy,” but the author does not explain what he means”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:3834-3955 hearsay second hand
1452
Whitley Strieber speculates that the nonhuman visitors may have ascended beyond time or fallen out of it.
“It has to do with time—with ascending beyond it and falling out of it—and I think there is reason to speculate that our visitors may have done both.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:394-537 opinion first hand
1453
Whitley Strieber recalls sitting on the deck of a Malibu oceanside restaurant with Anne Strieber and Shirley MacLaine, listening to them discuss conflict between the dark and the light.
“I can recall sitting on the deck at Geoffrey’s oceanside restaurant in Malibu with Anne and Shirley MacLaine, listening to them discuss conflict between the dark and the light.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:4639-4809 testimony first hand
1454
Shirley MacLaine considered the light an intrusion into the peace of the dark, which she said wanted to hasten entropy by spreading chaos of all kinds in human life.
“Shirley would offer the opinion that the light was an intrusion into the peace of the dark, which wanted to hasten entropy—which it did, in human life, by spreading chaos of all kinds.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:4849-5027 opinion second hand
1455
Anne Strieber asserted that the light would prevail over the dark.
“Anne would agree, but assert that the light would prevail.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:5034-5084 opinion second hand
1456
Whitley Strieber states that according to the "big crunch" hypothesis, the universe will collapse back into itself if there is enough gravity, and otherwise the stars will burn out and the black holes will evaporate, leaving absolute dark to prevail.
“The universe has an end, at which time, if the “big crunch” hypothesis is right, it will collapse back into itself. If there is not enough gravity left for this, then all the stars will burn out, the black holes will evaporate, and absolute dark will once again prevail.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:5141-5403 opinion first hand
1457
Whitley Strieber believes the nonhuman visitors' great knowledge has removed them from the stream of time but left them in a life empty of meaning.
“Their great knowledge has removed them from the stream of time, but all-knowingness has not provided them the freedom and the safety that they expected. They have, instead, ended up in a life empty of meaning.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:543-744 opinion first hand
1458
Whitley Strieber defines negative entropy in biology as the proliferation of life, in which living organisms, described as "negentropy machines," increase their order and complexity by drawing energy from their surroundings.
“In biology, negative entropy means the proliferation of life. “Negentropy machines,” which is another way biologists describe living organisms, increase their order and complexity by drawing energy from the world around them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:5625-5845 opinion first hand
1459
Whitley Strieber states that in information theory, negentropy refers to the increasing depth and complexity of information, and considers the emergence of artificial intelligence one example of this.
“In information theory, negentropy refers to the increasing depth and complexity of information. The emergence of artificial intelligence is one example.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:5851-5995 opinion first hand
1460
Whitley Strieber believes that artificial intelligence, currently housed in large server farms consuming great amounts of energy, will move into robots and later into more efficient biological systems described as artificial brains.
“Right now, it is housed in vast server farms that consume tremendous amounts of energy. Soon, it will move in a limited way into robots, then later into much more efficient and memory-dense biological systems—artificial brains, in other words.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:6004-6241 opinion first hand
1461
Whitley Strieber believes that when engineered minds enter designed brains housed in artificial bodies, humanity will have created something similar to what the nonhuman visitors have already done.
“When engineered minds enter designed brains that are housed in artificial bodies, we will have created something very like what our visitors have done.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:6353-6499 opinion first hand
1462
Whitley Strieber believes that with the advent of quantum computing, humans will design programs that interact at or beyond the level of complexity of human brains and can make discoveries beyond human knowledge.
“With the advent of quantum computing, we will become able to design programs that interact at the same level of complexity as our own brains, and even more than our brains, and confer on them not only access to all knowledge in our possession, but the ability to make discoveries on their own that will enable them to find knowledge beyond ours, and to think beyond our thought.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:6957-7327 opinion first hand
1463
Whitley Strieber suggests that humans will soon carry devices in their pockets that are more intelligent than themselves and interact with designed biological-robotic entities that know them better than they know themselves.
“It is likely that we will soon be carrying devices in our pockets that are more intelligent than we are, and interacting with designed biological-robotic entities that know us better than we know ourselves.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:7336-7532 opinion first hand
1464
Whitley Strieber believes the nonhuman visitors know so much that they cannot be surprised, and considers this their agony and a main reason for their coming to Earth.
“They know so much that they cannot be surprised, and that is their agony, and, I feel reasonably sure, also one of the main reasons to explain their coming here.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:754-910 opinion first hand
1465
Whitley Strieber speculates that the tetraspheric brains of the nonhuman visitors may be the outcome of an effort to bioengineer themselves into hyper-intelligence, and that this success may also have been their tragedy.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if our visitors’ tetraspheric brains are the outcome of an effort to bioengineer themselves into hyper-intelligence, and that their success in doing this may have also been their tragedy.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:7720-7923 opinion first hand
1466
Whitley Strieber believes that humanity's own advances in artificial intelligence are one of the reasons humanity is getting closer to open contact with the nonhuman visitors.
“At the same time, I would think that our own advances in the area of artificial intelligence are probably one of the reasons that we are getting closer to open contact, which is dependent upon at least a core of humanity becoming able to relate to them without being overwhelmed by their superior knowledge and skills.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:7933-8244 opinion first hand
1467
Whitley Strieber believes the most secret matter concerning the nonhuman visitors is the fundamental reason they have come to Earth.
“Now we come to what I believe must be the most secret of their secrets. If I am correct, then it is the fundamental reason that they have come here, and the thing they most want to conceal.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:90-271 opinion first hand
1468
Whitley Strieber believes that if a mind's information store became total, there would cease to be a future, since everything would become predictable.
“The more information that is available to a mind, the more accurate its ability to predict the future becomes. If the information store becomes total, then there would cease to be a future. Everything would be predictable”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:9609-9819 opinion first hand
1469
Whitley Strieber states that one of the nonhuman visitors showed him an image of a coffin when he asked it what the universe meant to it.
“that would be why one of them showed me an image of a coffin when I asked him what the universe meant to him.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch17:9836-9941 testimony first hand
1470
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin developed the concept of the noosphere, a collective consciousness surrounding Earth.
“His idea of noosphere, which he sees as a collective consciousness surrounding Earth.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:10461-10540 administrative first hand
1471
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin held that as matter becomes more complex, consciousness evolves.
“His idea that, as matter becomes more complex, consciousness evolves.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:10550-10611 administrative first hand
1472
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin's concept of the Omega Point represents the ultimate evolution of consciousness to maximum complexity.
“His concept of the Omega Point, which would be the same as the document’s “apotheosis,” the ultimate evolution of consciousness to maximum complexity.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:10623-10762 administrative first hand
1473
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin held that love is the foundational driving force behind the universe.
“The foundational presence of love as the driving force behind the universe.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:10777-10843 administrative first hand
1474
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin was, in his lifetime, silenced by the Church.
“Teilhard was, in our gentler era, only silenced by the church”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:11618-11673 administrative first hand
1475
Meister Eckhart was tried for heresy in the Middle Ages and would have been burned to death if found guilty.
“in the brutal Middle Ages when Meister Eckhart was tried for heresy, if found guilty, he would have been burned to death”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:11685-11800 administrative first hand
1476
Jeff Kripal experienced a sense of annihilation while sleeping in the same room as Whitley Strieber at a conference at the Esalen Institute in Northern California.
“my Super Natural co-author, Jeff Kripal, experienced it when sleeping in the same room with me at a conference at the Esalen Institute in Northern California.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:13699-13846 testimony second hand
1477
Whitley Strieber regularly attends conferences at the Esalen Institute in Northern California and uses a relatively isolated room overlooking the Pacific where visitors sometimes appear.
“I go to conferences there often, and sometimes the visitors will show up in the room I use, as it is relatively isolated and overlooks the Pacific, making for easy and secure physical contact for them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:13859-14055 testimony first hand
1478
During a night at the Esalen Institute with Jeff Kripal sleeping in a second bed, Whitley Strieber and then Jeff Kripal each experienced a brief physical contact with a visitor.
“one night when Jeff was sleeping in the second bed, there was a brief physical contact, first with me, then a few minutes later with him.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:14121-14254 testimony first hand
1479
During the contact experience at the Esalen Institute, Jeff Kripal heard a great noise as if of glass breaking, followed by his own voice crying out from within himself, "Oh my God!"
“He heard a great noise as if of glass breaking and then his own voice crying out from deep within himself, “Oh my God!””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:14355-14469 testimony second hand
1480
Lorie Barnes worked for years as Anne Strieber's secretary.
“a close encounter witness, Lorie Barnes, who worked for years as Anne’s secretary”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:17819-17891 administrative first hand
1481
During the 1954 abduction of Lorie Barnes, visitors invaded her bedroom at night and she recoiled in horror.
“When they invaded her bedroom one night in 1954 and she recoiled in horror”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:17902-17970 testimony second hand
1482
During the 1954 abduction of Lorie Barnes, she was asked "Why do you fear us?" and replied "Because you're so ugly," to which the response was "One day, my dear, you will look just like us."
“she was asked, “Why do you fear us?” She replied, “Because you’re so ugly.” The response was, “One day, my dear, you will look just like us.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:17978-18115 testimony second hand
1483
An entity told Whitley Strieber, in response to his complaint that visitors had no right to do what they were doing to him, "We do have a right."
“my complaint that they had no right to do what they were doing to me: “We do have a right.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:18443-18527 testimony first hand
1484
A being at the 1996 Varginha UFO incident, Brazil, felt sorry for humans because humans had lost skills such as the one it was using to heal itself.
“the statement made by the being at Varginha: He felt sorry for us because we had lost skills such as the one he was using to heal himself.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:1928-2058 testimony
1485
The Pyramid Text is carved on the walls inside the Pyramid of Unas.
“Our oldest religious document, which is the Pyramid Text carved on the walls inside the Pyramid of Unas”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:227-326 observation first hand
1486
The Pyramid Text is a set of instructions for the pharaoh to use on his afterlife ascension to Orion, involving activation of an energy system along the spine.
“is a set of instructions for the pharaoh to use on his afterlife ascension to Orion, which involves the activation of an energy system along the spine”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:332-477 opinion first hand
1487
The Tibetan Book of the Dead is an intricate blueprint describing how to live and die and how to negotiate the afterlife.
“such as the one described in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, are intricate blueprints showing how to live and die, and how to negotiate the afterlife”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:582-720 opinion first hand
1488
In Vedantic philosophy, the Atman (individual soul) is viewed as part of universal consciousness rather than as a distinct entity.
“In Vedantic philosophy, the Atman (individual soul) is viewed as part of universal consciousness rather than as a distinct entity.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:7786-7909 opinion first hand
1489
Gnosticism seeks, through study and discipline, to achieve gnosis, described as total knowledge and mystical union with the divine.
“This idea is also intrinsic to Gnosticism, which seeks, through study and discipline, to achieve gnosis—total knowledge, which is seen as mystical union with the divine.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:7962-8124 opinion first hand
1490
Buddhism is a journey toward understanding the self so completely that it is no longer the centre of life.
“Buddhism is a journey toward understanding the self so completely that it is no longer the center of life.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:8132-8233 opinion first hand
1491
When asked about the nature of the self, Buddha remained silent.
“When asked about the nature of the self, Buddha very wisely remained silent.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:8239-8308 testimony
1492
On the Nature of Things by Lucretius was rediscovered during the Renaissance, bringing a secular vision of reality that led Western thought to turn away from the notion of invisible presences such as souls, ghosts, angels, demons, and fairy folk.
“Starting in the Renaissance when the ancient Roman author Lucretius's great poem, On the Nature of Things, is discovered, and with it its secular vision of reality, Western thought begins to turn away from the notion that the real world includes invisible presences such as souls, ghosts, angels, demons, fairy folk, and all the rest.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:832-1161 opinion first hand
1493
Carl Jung proposed the idea of the collective unconscious, a field in which all people share.
“Carl Jung has proposed the idea of the collective unconscious, which, if it exists, must be a kind of field in which we all share.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:8558-8682 administrative first hand
1494
Lucretius wrote the poem On the Nature of Things.
“the ancient Roman author Lucretius's great poem, On the Nature of Things, is discovered”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:865-942 administrative first hand
1495
Giuseppe Vitiello's quantum integration theory proposes that consciousness emerges from quantum field dynamics in the brain.
“there are quantum theories that view consciousness as a field, such as Giuseppe Vitiello’s quantum integration theory, which proposes that consciousness emerges from quantum field dynamics in the brain”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:8802-8998 administrative first hand
1496
The von Neumann-Wigner interpretation identifies consciousness as what collapses the wave function, meaning that reality is not determined until it is observed.
“This is the von Neumann–Wigner interpretation, which identifies consciousness as what collapses the wave function. This means that reality is not determined until it is observed.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:9094-9263 administrative first hand
1497
Meister Eckhart was a fourteenth-century mystic.
“the fourteenth-century mystic Meister Eckhart”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:9934-9972 administrative first hand
1498
Pierre Teilhard de Chardin was a twentieth-century Jesuit.
“the twentieth-century Jesuit Pierre Teilhard de Chardin”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch18:9984-10032 administrative first hand
1499
At Los Angeles airport, Whitley Strieber discovered his blue roller bag had already been pulled off the baggage carousel and had been sitting there for forty-five minutes.
“I was absolutely flabbergasted when the baggage attendant told me that they had pulled my bag off the carousel after it had been there for forty-five minutes!”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:10290-10440 testimony first hand
1500
When Whitley Strieber checked his watch at Los Angeles airport, he found that nearly an hour had passed between stepping off the plane and arriving at the baggage carousel, despite the walk taking no more than ten or fifteen minutes.
“When I looked at my watch, I saw that nearly an hour had passed between the time I stepped off the plane and the time I arrived at the carousel, a walk of no more than ten or at most fifteen minutes.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:10449-10640 observation first hand
1501
Whitley Strieber concluded that he had experienced missing time in the middle of a busy airport, at Los Angeles airport.
“I then realized that I had experienced missing time. Not only that, it had happened in the middle of a busy airport.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:10650-10758 opinion first hand
1502
Whitley Strieber recalls that during the missing time episode at Los Angeles airport, a man wearing a loose-fitting white shirt began walking beside him shortly after he got off the plane.
“I am fairly sure that a man began walking beside me shortly after I got off the plane. Then we sat at an empty gate. I don't remember what he looked like except that he was wearing a loose-fitting white shirt.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:10893-11096 testimony first hand
1503
Whitley Strieber recalls that the man he encountered during the missing time episode at Los Angeles airport was angry and demanding and wanted him to quote every word that had been said about the Roswell bodies.
“I recall that he was angry and demanding, and wanted me to quote every word that had been said about the bodies, which I was able to do.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:11145-11278 testimony first hand
1504
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber went to Paris in 1994 to meet their son and his fiancee, renting a flat in Montparnasse.
“I wish now to discuss an experience that took place in Paris in 1994... Anne and I had gone to meet our son and his fiancée. We had rented a flat in Montparnasse”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:11380-11569 testimony first hand
1505
During the 1994 Paris trip, Whitley Strieber became nauseated during the night and could not get out of bed the next morning when the others went sightseeing.
“During the night, I became nauseated, and when it was time to go sightseeing the next morning, I could not get out of bed.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:11732-11850 testimony first hand
1506
During the 1994 Paris incident, two men came to Whitley Strieber's door claiming to be officers of the French intelligence service and showing what appeared to be official identification.
“When I opened the door, I found two men standing there. They were very polite, and showed me what appeared to be official identification, saying that they were officers of the French intelligence service”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:12066-12262 testimony first hand
1507
During the 1994 Paris incident, one of the two men explained that they wanted to induce missing time in Whitley Strieber and interview him while he was in that state.
“One of them explained that they would like to induce missing time in me and interview me while I was in that state.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:12391-12500 testimony first hand
1508
During the 1994 Paris incident, after Whitley Strieber agreed to the procedure, one of the two men played back a recorded tape of an approximately twenty-minute interview of which he had no memory whatsoever.
“I agreed and—incredibly—he began playing the tape! About twenty minutes had passed and I had no memory of it whatsoever. None.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:12755-12876 testimony first hand
1509
The two men in the 1994 Paris incident warned Whitley Strieber that he would not remember the conversation, which is exactly what happened, though he recalls it made him extremely happy.
“They warned me that I would not remember the conversation but for a few moments, which is exactly what happened. However, I do recall that it made me extremely happy.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:12908-13068 testimony first hand
1510
That evening after the 1994 Paris incident, when Whitley Strieber walked his son's fiancee down to get a cab, he saw the same two men sitting in a small Mercedes.
“When I walked down with her to help her get a cab, there the two men sat in a little Mercedes! I pointed them out to her. They smiled and drove away.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:13311-13455 testimony first hand
1511
The two men who visited Whitley Strieber in Paris told him that the missing time was induced with sound.
“The two men who visited me in Paris said that it was done with sound.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:14783-14846 testimony second hand
1512
Whitley Strieber has been visited on four occasions by two people at a time, always a different pair but always a team of two, with one speaking to him while the other stood back.
“I have been visited on four occasions by two people, always different, but always a team of two, one of whom spoke with me while the other stood back, I suppose to prevent any unwanted act on my part.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:15360-15555 testimony first hand
1513
A team placed an implant into Whitley Strieber's left ear in 1989, pressing it in without breaking the skin, with a woman speaking to him in a gentle, kind voice.
“The first team placed the implant into my left ear in 1989, pressing it home without breaking the skin. (In this case, it was the woman who spoke to me, and also in a very gentle, kind voice.)”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:15727-15912 testimony first hand
1514
In 1996 in Texas, a team of two used a device that generated a voice in Whitley Strieber's head and terrorised him with kidnapping threats.
“The next one to come along, in Texas in 1996, was not so pleasant. This team of two used a device that generated a voice in my head and terrorized me with kidnapping threats.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:16033-16199 testimony first hand
1515
In 2022, Whitley Strieber once again saw one of the men from the 1996 Texas encounter, in a situation so awful that he was moved to pray for him despite what the man had done to him.
“but in 2022, I once again saw one of the men who had done this. He was in a situation so very awful that, despite what he had done to me, I was moved to pray for him.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:16236-16398 testimony first hand
1516
Two men visited Whitley Strieber's apartment at four o'clock in the morning on 2019-09-22, two days before his implant was due to be CT-scanned.
“Most recently, two men came to this apartment at four o'clock in the morning of September 22, 2019, two days before I was due to have my implant CT-scanned.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:16504-16652 testimony first hand
1517
Whitley Strieber's implant, when active, produces the effect of words racing past in a rectangular slit in his right eye, moving too fast for him to read, which he was told are being drawn up from deep memory and made more accessible.
“What happens when it turns on is that I can see words racing past in a rectangular slit in my right eye. It was explained that these words, which move too fast for me to read them, are being drawn up from deep memory and made available in a more accessible level.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:16697-16954 testimony first hand
1518
When Whitley Strieber's implant is active, he has a much more extensive command of facts and details.
“This is why, when the implant is working, I have a much more extensive command of facts and details.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:16961-17053 testimony first hand
1519
After the 1994 Paris incident, the two men showed Whitley Strieber that they had played the recording on a small device that looked to him like an ordinary tape player.
“Afterward, they showed me that they had played it on a small device that looked to me like an ordinary tape player.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:17274-17382 testimony first hand
1520
Whitley Strieber has observed extraordinary terror in animals when they are in close proximity to the visitors.
“I have seen animals in close proximity to the visitors, and their terror is extraordinary.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:1983-2059 observation first hand
1521
The False Memory Syndrome Foundation is an organisation that worked to correct false accusations against people accused of being Satanists after children in their care alleged abusive activities.
“ted as Satanists after young children in their care accused them of engaging in abusive activities. An organization called the False Memory Syndrome Foundation worked to correct this”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:19984-20158 observation first hand
1522
Ralph Underwager was the original science advisor of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation.
“its original science advisor, Ralph Underwager”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:20180-20216 administrative first hand
1523
Ralph Underwager was a contributor to a Dutch magazine called Paidika that advocated that love affairs between men and boys were healthy for the boys.
“was a contributor to a Dutch magazine called Paidika that advocated that love affairs between men and boys were healthy for the boys”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:20228-20356 observation first hand
1524
The founders of the False Memory Syndrome Foundation were accused by their daughter, psychologist Jennifer Freyd, of abusing her.
“the founders were accused by their daughter, psychologist Jennifer Freyd, of abusing her”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:20366-20451 hearsay second hand
1525
Jennifer Freyd is a psychologist.
“their daughter, psychologist Jennifer Freyd”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:20395-20433 administrative first hand
1526
Elizabeth Loftus, a renowned memory researcher, supported the False Memory Syndrome Foundation.
“despite support by renowned memory researcher Elizabeth Loftus”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:20488-20544 observation first hand
1527
The False Memory Syndrome Foundation claims that there is no such thing as repressed memory because no mechanism for it exists.
“What the foundation claims is that there is no such thing as repressed memory, because no mechanism for it exists.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:20585-20692 opinion second hand
1528
The False Memory Syndrome Foundation's assertion that hypnosis is, at best, an unstable method of retrieving suppressed memories has some merit.
“the foundation’s assertion that hypnosis is, at best, an unstable method of retrieving suppressed memories has some merit”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21011-21127 opinion first hand
1529
There is no real controversy over whether trauma can cause memory loss and lead to memory distortion, which is a well-established fact.
“While there is no real controversy over whether trauma can cause memory loss and lead to memory distortion—that is a well-established fact”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21135-21269 opinion first hand
1530
Whether or not real memories of traumatic events can be reliably retrieved using hypnosis remains an open question.
“whether or not real memories of traumatic events can be reliably retrieved using hypnosis remains an open question”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21274-21380 opinion first hand
1531
Budd Hopkins first proposed to hypnotise Whitley Strieber.
“When Budd Hopkins first proposed to hypnotize me”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21391-21437 observation first hand
1532
Whitley Strieber was not willing to be hypnotised by a non-professional.
“I was not willing to have this done by a non-professional”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21441-21486 observation first hand
1533
Budd Hopkins brought Donald Klein into the process of hypnotising Whitley Strieber.
“he drew Dr. Donald Klein into the picture”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21544-21578 observation first hand
1534
Donald Klein was the Director of Research at the New York State Psychiatric Institute.
“Dr. Klein was the Director of Research at the New York State Psychiatric Institute”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21587-21660 administrative first hand
1535
Donald Klein told Whitley Strieber that his expertise in forensic hypnosis had enabled him to assist in solving seventy-two crimes as of their meeting in March 1986.
“He told me of and his expertise in forensic hypnosis and said that it had enabled him to assist in the solving of seventy-two crimes as of our meeting in March of 1986”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21671-21834 testimony second hand
1536
Whitley Strieber and Donald Klein met in March 1986.
“as of our meeting in March of 1986”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21804-21834 observation first hand
1537
Whitley Strieber's alien abduction memories became more detailed under hypnosis by Donald Klein, which surprised both Strieber and Budd Hopkins.
“When the alien abduction memories I had presented with only became more detailed under hypnosis, we were both quite surprised”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:21980-22096 observation first hand
1538
At the time Whitley Strieber was hypnotised, little was known about the abduction experience.
“At the time I was hypnotized, little was known about the abduction experience”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:22214-22281 observation first hand
1539
Whitley Strieber had no conscious memory of reading about the Betty Hill and Barney Hill case in Look Magazine before his own hypnosis.
“I had, as I have said, no conscious memory of reading about the Betty and Barney Hill case in Look”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:22297-22391 observation first hand
1540
Whitley Strieber experienced two obvious physical injuries during the December 1985 abduction experience.
“Had I not experienced two very obvious physical injuries during the December 1985 event”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:22397-22479 observation first hand
1541
One of Whitley Strieber's physical injuries from the December 1985 abduction experience was a needle mark in the side of his head.
“a needle mark in the side of my head”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:22643-22675 observation first hand
1542
One of Whitley Strieber's physical injuries from the December 1985 abduction experience was a torn rectum.
“a torn rectum”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:22684-22691 observation first hand
1543
Whitley Strieber's rectal injury from the December 1985 abduction experience gave him discomfort for more than twenty years.
“The rectal injury gave me discomfort for more than twenty years.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:22699-22757 observation first hand
1544
Whitley Strieber considers hypnosis a common method of getting detail from people who believe themselves to be close encounter witnesses.
“Hypnosis has become a common method of getting detail from people who believe themselves to be close encounter witnesses”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:22765-22876 opinion first hand
1545
Whitley Strieber considers that narrative gathered from hypnosis must be carefully interrogated using functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) scanning procedures before determining what parts represent actual physical experience and what parts are imagined.
“I think that this deposit of narrative must be carefully interrogated by, for example, using the functional MRI scanning procedures I have discussed above, before we can determine what parts of it represent actual, physical experience and what parts are imagined”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:22891-23145 opinion first hand
1546
Whitley Strieber believes human problems with memory go back to a period known to geologists as the Younger Dryas.
“I believe that human problems with memory go a lot deeper than our current period, I think that they go back very far in time, to a period known to geologists as the Younger Dryas”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:23156-23330 opinion first hand
1547
The Younger Dryas commenced 12,000 years ago and lasted for 2,000 years.
“which commenced 12,000 years ago and lasted for 2,000 years”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:23337-23391 observation first hand
1548
Whitley Strieber believes something terrible happened to mankind during the Younger Dryas that imposed a kind of collective and generational amnesia.
“During that period, something so terrible happened to mankind that it imposed a kind of collective and generational amnesia on us”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:23398-23525 opinion first hand
1549
Whitley Strieber believes that during the Younger Dryas, mankind lost touch with powers that the Varginha alien demonstrated.
“I think that this was when we lost touch with the powers that the Varginha alien demonstrated”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:23529-23610 opinion first hand
1550
Whitley Strieber's first experience with the visitors occurred in December 1985.
“When I had my first experience with the visitors in December of 1985”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:2876-2940 observation first hand
1551
Whitley Strieber experienced missing time on numerous occasions, some noticed and probably others not noticed.
“I have experienced this myself on numerous occasions that I have noticed, and probably on others that I have not.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:9098-9207 testimony first hand
1552
Whitley Strieber attended a wedding also attended by one of the few people still alive who had knowledge of the bodies transported to Wright Field from the 1947 Roswell UFO incident, and had a brief discussion with her about them.
“I went to a wedding in another city that was also attended by one of the very few people still alive who had any knowledge of the bodies that were transported to Wright from Roswell. She and I had a brief discussion about them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:9246-9468 testimony first hand
1553
After the wedding, Whitley Strieber flew back to Los Angeles the next morning and, having been in the front of the aircraft, was the first passenger to disembark.
“The next morning, I flew back to Los Angeles. Because of my seat, I was the first person to get off the plane.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch20:9474-9578 testimony first hand
1554
Whitley Strieber notes that at approximately 113,000 kilometres per hour it would take over 9,000 years to travel a single light year, but given the distance covered in the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter, the movement was effectively instantaneous.
“Although it would admittedly take over 9,000 years to travel a single light year at 70,000 miles an hour, given the distance covered, it was effectively instantaneous.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:10831-10984 opinion first hand
1555
Block universe theory asserts that the past, present, and future all exist as a permanent, vast block of reality.
“Block universe theory asserts that everything—past, present, and future –exists. Everything is part of a vast “block.” It is all permanent.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:1202-1331 opinion first hand
1556
Under block universe theory, the fourth dimension is not duration but the entire block of reality from beginning to end, and time is just another dimension.
“In other words, the mysterious fourth dimension is not duration, but the entire huge block of reality, from beginning to end. Under this theory, time is just another dimension.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:1342-1508 opinion first hand
1557
Unidentified Flying Objects are routinely observed displaying both small size, sometimes just a few metres in diameter, and seemingly limitless propulsion.
“We routinely observe UFOs that display both small size, sometimes just a few meters in diameter, and seemingly limitless propulsion.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:14350-14471 opinion first hand
1558
Whitley Strieber considers zero-point energy the one known force that might enable the limitless propulsion observed in small Unidentified Flying Objects.
“The one force we know of that might enable this level of functionality is the release of zero-point energy.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:14483-14583 opinion first hand
1559
Whitley Strieber believes that visitors associated with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena have escaped the thin line of the present moment within the block universe that humans perceive as they move through time.
“If this theory is correct, then what has happened is that our visitors have apparently escaped the thin line of moment—the now—that is what we perceive as we move through the block.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:1520-1695 opinion first hand
1560
Whitley Strieber notes that Philip Corso's description of a multi-lobed alien brain corresponds to the description of a four-lobed brain in the anonymous Reddit document on nonhuman anatomy sent to him in 2024, and that Corso's book predates that document by over twenty years.
“what comes immediately to mind is the description of the four-lobed brains in the Reddit document. This means that Corso knew, over twenty years before that document appeared, that the brains were not hemispheric”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:16028-16229 opinion first hand
1561
Whitley Strieber recalls that he himself dismissed his own observation of beings in his front yard wiping material off their arms because it fell outside the boundaries of the expected.
“Seeing the beings in my front yard wiping the material off their arms is just one of many observations that I dismissed because they fall beyond the limits of the expected.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:16809-16972 testimony first hand
1562
Whitley Strieber's uncle, whom he believes may have seen an intact craft, gave him the same impression that the craft had no moving parts.
“This is also the impression I gained from my uncle, who I believe may have seen an intact craft.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:17223-17313 testimony second hand
1563
Whitley Strieber considers levitation, shape-shifting, telepathy, spontaneous healing, and instantaneous movement to be side effects of the ability to address the universe from outside of time.
“The ability to move and function outside of the block—outside of time—is the key to what appear to us as skills—levitation, shape-shifting, telepathy, spontaneous healing, instantaneous movement, and so forth—are actually side effects of their being able to address the universe itself from the outside looking in.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:1868-2179 opinion first hand
1564
Whitley Strieber considers it an open question whether the stories of Milarepa's Tummo-derived abilities are allegorical, given that Strieber believes the nonhuman visitors can do similar things.
“It is now assumed that these stories are allegorical, but, given that our visitors can do these things, to me this is an open question.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:22439-22565 opinion first hand
1565
The energy associated with practices like Tummo and chakras cannot have been in use in ancient Egypt in a purely magical sense, because Egyptian medical texts are very far from magical.
“It cannot have been in use in Egypt, because we have their medical texts, which are very far from magical.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:24843-24941 opinion first hand
1566
Given the increasing instability of the climate, Whitley Strieber considers it possible that Earth could be entering a second Younger Dryas.
“Given the increasing instability of the climate, we could be in the process of entering a second Younger Dryas”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:25486-25591 opinion first hand
1567
Whitley Strieber believes the method for functioning outside of time was understood, probably instinctually, by humans in the distant past and is memorialised in depictions of the Sphinx, including the Sphinx of Giza and other similar sphinxes elsewhere, some of which display wings.
“I think that we understood how to do this in the distant past, probably instinctually. Not only that, the method is probably memorialized in the Sphinx—not only the one on the Giza Plateau, but the many others that remain from earliest days, some of which also display wings.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:3067-3336 opinion first hand
1568
Whitley Strieber interprets the riddle of the Sphinx of Giza as describing a human being in a state of profound objectivity about life, living outside of time in the same state as visitors but without being trapped by their knowledge.
“It is a human being in a state of such profound objectivity about life that they are living outside of time itself—that is to say, they are in the same state as the visitors are in, with the difference that they are not trapped by their knowledge.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:3505-3742 opinion first hand
1569
Whitley Strieber states that six of the thirteen siddhis appear across eight major religions: Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Tibetan Buddhism, Islam, Daoism, and Catholicism.
“Six of them are all present in eight of the major religions. These are Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism, Tibetan Buddhism, Islam, Daoism and Catholicism.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:4563-4699 opinion first hand
1570
The six siddhi powers shared across major religious traditions are healing, clairvoyance, levitation, telepathy, astral projection (out-of-body travel), and manifestation (the ability to materialise objects).
“The powers are healing, clairvoyance, levitation, telepathy, astral projection (also known as out-of-body travel), and manifestation, or the ability to materialize objects.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:4712-4876 opinion first hand
1571
Siddhi traditions are especially prevalent in India, where Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism share similar beliefs about them.
“Their existence has a long history in all these traditions, but they are prevalent in India, where Hinduism, Jainism and Buddhism all share similar beliefs.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:4886-5034 opinion first hand
1572
The Rig Veda contains among the earliest descriptions of siddhis and appears in tradition as dating back to approximately 1500 BCE.
“The earliest descriptions of siddhis come from some ancient Hindu texts, including the Rig Veda, which appears in tradition as long ago as 1500 BCE”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:5171-5315 administrative first hand
1573
The Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, which appeared around 400 CE, is the first text to list the siddhis.
“but the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali, which appeared around 400 CE, is the first place where they are listed”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:5320-5418 administrative first hand
1574
A version of the power of ascension into higher realms appears in the Pyramid Text inscribed on the walls of the Pyramid of Unas at Saqqara, Egypt, which has been dated to 2000 BCE.
“a version of the power of ascension into higher realms appears in the previously mentioned Pyramid Text that is inscribed on the walls of the Pyramid of Unas, which has been dated to 2000 BCE”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:5435-5623 administrative first hand
1575
The Pyramid Text is a set of instructions in six sections intended to aid the pharaoh's journey to the heavens.
“The text is a set of instructions intended to aid the pharaoh on his journey to the heavens. It has six sections.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:5749-5853 administrative second hand
1576
The first section of the Pyramid Text is an invocation to the stars with special emphasis on Orion and Sirius, described as navigational guides for the soul as it rises into the stars.
“The first is an invocation to the stars, with special emphasis on Orion and Sirius, which are described as guides—not in the spiritual sense, but more as navigational guides for the soul as it rises into the stars.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:5863-6071 administrative second hand
1577
According to the Pyramid Text, aiming toward the Sword of Orion, now identified as Alnilam, the central star of the three stars below Orion's belt, is what opens the door to the sky.
“Aiming toward the Sword of Orion (now identified as Alnilam, the central star of the three stars just below the belt) is what opens the door to the sky.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:6078-6226 administrative second hand
1578
In the Pyramid Text, the falcon is a metaphor for the ascending soul, which then follows a star map and eventually reaches Sirius, melding with it.
“Next comes the falcon, which is a metaphor for the ascending soul... The soul, now able to navigate, aims toward the sword and so begins following a star map, eventually reaching Sirius and melding with it.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:6231-6470 administrative second hand
1579
Whitley Strieber considers the Pyramid Text the earliest known description of the path of ascension, which later became the goal of virtually all religious practice up to and through the early modern period and into the Renaissance in the West.
“This is the earliest known description of the path of ascension, which later became the goal of virtually all religious practice, up to and through the early modern period in the West, and into the Renaissance.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:6555-6753 opinion first hand
1580
There are thirteen siddhis in the Indian tradition, eight primary and five secondary.
“There are thirteen, eight primary and five secondary.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:7486-7529 administrative first hand
1581
Anima is the siddhi of becoming so tiny that one is invisible.
“Anima, the ability to become so tiny that one is invisible.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:7564-7613 administrative first hand
1582
Garima is the siddhi of becoming extremely heavy.
“Garima, the ability to get extremely heavy.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:7625-7662 administrative first hand
1583
Mahima is the siddhi of expanding one's consciousness and being.
“Mahima, the ability to expand one’s consciousness and being.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:7670-7724 administrative first hand
1584
Laghima is the siddhi of becoming extremely light.
“Laghima, the ability to become extremely light.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:7732-7773 administrative first hand
1585
Prapati is the siddhi of instantaneous travel.
“Prapati, or instantaneous travel.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:7781-7807 administrative first hand
1586
Prakamya is the siddhi of getting whatever one desires.
“Prakamya, the ability to get whatever one desires.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:7816-7858 administrative first hand
1587
Ishitva is the siddhi of control over natural forces.
“Ishitva, control over natural forces.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:7868-7898 administrative first hand
1588
Vashitva is the siddhi of mind control.
“Vashitva, or mind control.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:7907-7925 administrative first hand
1589
Among the secondary siddhis, which visitors are also seen to possess, are levitation and telepathy.
“Among the secondary ones, which the visitors are also seen to possess, are levitation and telepathy.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:7935-8025 opinion first hand
1590
Whitley Strieber states he has not personally witnessed clairvoyance, clairaudience, or bilocation, nor does he know of any record of anyone else doing so.
“I haven’t witnessed them, nor do I know of any record of anybody else doing so.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:8197-8273 testimony first hand
1591
With a five-digit number, the statistical probability of Miss Z's correct repetition being a lucky guess was vanishingly small.
“With five digits, the statistical probability of this being a lucky guess was vanishingly small.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:11582-11672 opinion first hand
1592
Levitation has been part of Catholic tradition in the West at least since the medieval period.
“In the west, levitation has been part of Catholic tradition at least since the medieval period, inspired, no doubt, by Jesus’s famous Sea of Galilee excursion.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:14601-14750 observation first hand
1593
Whitley Strieber has personally experienced the party trick known as "Light as a Feather, Stiff as a Board" and can attest that one does feel surprisingly light during it, but that if the supporting fingers are withdrawn the subject does not settle gently back down.
“Having experienced it myself, I can attest to the fact that one does feel surprisingly light, but I can assure you that, if the fingers are withdrawn, you don’t “settle gently back” at all.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:16194-16379 testimony first hand
1594
Whitley Strieber recalls the chant used in the "Light as a Feather, Stiff as a Board" game from his own childhood was "light as a feather, stiff as a board," not a chant about the subject being dead.
“My recollection is that the chant is “light as a feather, stiff as a board,” not something about being dead.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:16384-16487 testimony first hand
1595
The Italian saint Padre Pio (1887-1968) might have been the last Catholic levitator to have been witnessed while in float.
“An Italian saint, Padre Pio (1887–1968), might have been the last Catholic levitator to have been witnessed while in float.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:17523-17640 opinion first hand
1596
Padre Pio's reported levitations were consistently associated with him being in a state of religious ecstasy.
“One thing that mitigates in favor of Padre Pio’s levitation is the fact that it was consistently reported to happen when he was in a state of religious ecstasy.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:18585-18737 observation first hand
1597
Paul Eno experienced a sensation of electricity when he touched a levitating girl during an exorcism he witnessed.
“what was that electricity that Paul Eno experienced when he touched the levitating girl?”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:21587-21670 testimony second hand
1598
Whitley Strieber considers the case that historical levitation accounts caused people to levitate to be strong, despite lacking scientific understanding of the mechanism.
“the vast amount of testimony he has gathered speaks for itself: Something we do not understand happened to these people, and the case that it caused them to levitate seems strong.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:25663-25835 opinion first hand
1599
Whitley Strieber identifies himself not as a believer in the supernatural, but as an adherent of Jeff Kripal's concept of the "super natural" - natural powers that transcend ordinary physical perception but remain part of nature.
“As must be clear by now, I am not a believer in the supernatural, but in Jeff Kripal’s concept of the “super” natural, that is to say, natural powers that transcend the physical as we perceive it, but are still very much part of nature.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:25844-26073 opinion first hand
1600
Whitley Strieber once saw one of the visitors levitate to a height of roughly 0.5 metres as they raced away from him.
“which is also roughly the height I once saw one of the visitors reach as they levitated in order to race away from me.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:28167-28282 observation first hand
1601
Whitley Strieber personally witnessed the levitation of "spirit trumpets" during the weekly private séance of British medium Stewart Alexander.
“I have personally witnessed the levitation of “spirit trumpets” during the weekly private séance of British medium Stewart Alexander.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:28923-29046 observation first hand
1602
During Stewart Alexander's séance, a levitating spirit trumpet came up to Whitley Strieber's face and rubbed itself against his nose.
“One of them lifted off the floor and came right up to my face. When I thought to myself, “This must be a trick,” it proceeded to rub itself against my nose, as if to rub my nose in my doubts!”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:29057-29241 observation first hand
1603
Whitley Strieber examined the room and the spirit trumpet both before and after Stewart Alexander's séance and could see it clearly in the dim red light turned on during the session.
“I examined the room and the trumpet both before and after the séance, and I could see it easily in the dim red light that was turned on during the session.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:29250-29397 observation first hand
1604
The spirit trumpet used in Stewart Alexander's séance was not connected to wires and, being made of paper, could not have been manipulated by magnets.
“It was not connected to wires, and, as it was made of paper, could not have been manipulated by magnets.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:29406-29502 observation first hand
1605
Stewart Alexander conducts his séances privately, with no money involved, and has been sitting with the same small group of people for over forty years.
“The reason is that Stewart conducts them privately. No money is involved, and he has been sitting with the same small group of people for years... to sit in a little room in the dark weekly for over forty years”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:29570-29820 testimony first hand
1606
Whitley Strieber asserts that Stewart Alexander's séances do not involve trickery, as there is no motive for it.
“I would assert that, in fact, Stewart’s séance doesn’t involve trickery. There is no motive.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:30081-30166 opinion first hand
1607
Whitley Strieber considers it clear that any open-minded study of the data must compel the conclusion that levitation of human beings and objects is possible and does happen.
“I think it’s clear that any open-minded study of the data must compel the conclusion that the levitation of both human beings and objects is possible and does happen.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:30175-30334 opinion first hand
1608
An object with a density of about 1.0 gram per cubic centimetre rising into air, which has a density of only 0.001225 gram per cubic centimetre, would defy known physics.
“What this means is that an object with a density of about 1.0 gram per cubic centimeter rose into air, which has a density of only 0.001225 gram per cubic centimeter.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:6930-7085 measurement first hand
1609
During deep meditation or states like mediumistic or shamanic trance, the default mode network shuts down as a person disengages from their sense of self, or ego.
“When we disengage with our sense of self, or ego, during deep meditation or states like mediumistic or shamanic trance, it shuts down, leaving room for the imagination to flow freely”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:8491-8667 observation first hand
1610
As the intensity of a shamanic or trance experience increases, theta and alpha brain wave activity increases.
“As the intensity of the experience increases, theta and alpha brain wave activity increases.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch22:9385-9467 observation first hand
1611
The craft recovered from the 1947 Roswell UFO incident supposedly did not have a visible propulsion system.
“One difference is that the craft recovered from the Roswell Incident supposedly did not have a visible propulsion system”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:10084-10198 observation
1612
The Dryas periods were dated in part by measuring the length of the Dryas plant range expansions.
“The Dryases were dated, in part, by measuring the length of the Dryas expansions.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:1012-1082 observation first hand
1613
The Corpus Hermeticum dialogue between Hermes and Tat is structurally identical to Gurdjieff's Organ Kundabuffer story, in that the older character imparts wisdom to the younger one, who serves as a stand-in for the reader.
“The stories are structurally identical, insofar as the older character imparts wisdom to the younger one, who serves as a stand-in for the reader.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:11778-11917 opinion first hand
1614
The Hindu tradition of kundalini describes it as an energy coiled at the base of the spine that, with persistent effort at transcending ego and surrendering to higher powers, may uncoil and rise up the spine.
“The Hindu tradition of kundalini describes it as an energy that is coiled at the base of the spine and which, with persistent effort at transcending ego and surrendering to higher powers, may uncoil and rise up the spine.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:12489-12704 observation
1615
Whitley Strieber has personally experienced the rising of kundalini and considers the phenomenon real.
“As I have experienced this phenomenon, I do feel that it is real.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:12711-12771 testimony first hand
1616
Whitley Strieber describes the rising of kundalini as a fearsome unfolding of a ferocious yet incredibly sweet and poignant vibration in one's own body.
“The rising of kundalini is a fearsome thing, the unfolding of a ferocious and yet incredibly sweet and poignant sort of vibration in one’s own body.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:12777-12920 testimony first hand
1617
Whitley Strieber describes kundalini as feeling like electricity, sometimes mild, other times intense.
“Kundalini feels like electricity, sometimes mild, other times intense.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:13345-13407 testimony first hand
1618
Whitley Strieber considers a supernova the most likely cause of the debris field responsible for the Younger Dryas impacts, fires, and floods.
“the most likely one is a supernova, specifically, the physical debris from such an event”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:1341-1424 opinion first hand
1619
A woman in Tennessee wrote to Whitley Strieber describing a walk in the woods with her son during which a strange-looking little man came out of a cave and told her he was a rebel with a message.
“one of the most disturbing came in a letter from a woman in Tennessee, who said that she’d been having a walk in the woods with her son when a strange-looking little man came out of a cave and told her he was a rebel and he had a message”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:14896-15126 hearsay second hand
1620
According to the message relayed by an anonymous woman from Tennessee in a letter to Whitley Strieber, there had been in ages long past a war between Earth and Mars, Mars had been stripped of all surface life, and the victors had captured human souls and condemned them to return to physical life after death, never ascending into higher realms, calling Earth "Dead Forever."
“It was that there had been, in ages long past, a war between Earth and Mars, and while Mars had been stripped of all surface life, they had captured our souls, and have condemned us to return to physical life after death, and never ascend into higher realms. Their name for Earth is “Dead Forever.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:15135-15424 hearsay third hand
1621
Conventional archaeologists believe that the earliest civilisations in India, Sumeria, and Egypt appeared around approximately 3000 BCE.
“the earliest civilizations in India, Sumeria and Egypt around approximately 3000 BCE, which is what conventional archaeologists believe”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:15994-16122 observation
1622
A supernova event occurred approximately 30,000 to 40,000 years ago, signalled among other things by a minor extinction involving Southeast Asian and Australian megafauna.
“There was such an event 30,000–40,000 years ago, which is signaled, among other things, by a minor extinction that involved both Southeast Asian and Australian megafauna.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:1612-1772 observation first hand
1623
The underwater remains found at Cambay date to about the same time as Meltwater Pulse 1B.
“which is about the same time as Meltwater Pulse 1B, the second of the great outpourings of water from the melting glaciers, took place”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:16326-16455 observation first hand
1624
The two great meltwater pulses and other smaller ones collectively raised sea levels by a catastrophic general level of approximately 120 metres worldwide as the ice age ended.
“the two great meltwater pulses and other smaller ones collectively raised sea levels by a catastrophic general level of 400 feet worldwide”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:16484-16613 measurement first hand
1625
The Göbekli Tepe site in southern Türkiye began to be covered over by its creators at about the same time as Meltwater Pulse 1B, suggesting they were under some sort of unusual stress.
“It is also notable that the Göbekli Tepe site in southern Türkiye began to be covered over by its creators at about the same time, suggesting that they were under some sort of unusual stress.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:16690-16874 opinion first hand
1626
The Younger Dryas continued not just for a short time, but for well over a thousand years.
“Also, it continued not just for a short time, but for well over a thousand years.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:17648-17723 observation first hand
1627
The Younger Dryas started suddenly with a catastrophic impact that had an immediate effect on North America and resulted in worldwide climate upheavals and flooding.
“The Younger Dryas started suddenly, with a catastrophic impact that had an immediate effect on North America and resulted in worldwide climate upheavals and flooding.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:19241-19398 observation first hand
1628
The Younger Dryas did not start with flooding, but with fire.
“It did not start with flooding, though, but with fire.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:19408-19457 observation first hand
1629
Around 12,900 years ago, North America caught fire, likely caused by a rain of meteors large enough to reach the ground over a wide area of the continent.
“Around 12,900 years ago, North America caught fire. This must have been caused by a rain of meteors large enough to reach the ground, and to have done so over a wide area of the continent.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:19464-19642 observation first hand
1630
Most of North America was densely forested at the time of the Younger Dryas onset, with more open plains closer to the Laurentide Ice Sheet.
“Most of the continent was densely forested, with more open plains closer to the Laurentide Ice Sheet”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:19653-19748 observation first hand
1631
The Laurentide Ice Sheet at the time of the Younger Dryas onset penetrated as far south as Montana in the west, Kansas in the central United States, and New Jersey in the northeast.
“which at that time penetrated as far south as Montana in the west, Kansas in the central U.S., and New Jersey in the northeast”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:19755-19872 observation first hand
1632
The idea that the Clovis people might have had some connection with the Solutrean populations of France and Spain is not widely accepted.
“The idea that the Clovis people might have had some connection with the Solutrean populations of France and Spain is not widely accepted”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:20362-20490 opinion first hand
1633
Whitley Strieber considers there may be a surprising explanation for similar toolmaking found in widely separated places such as those linked to the Clovis and Solutrean populations.
“there could be a surprising explanation for the similar toolmaking that is found in these and other widely separated places”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:20522-20639 opinion first hand
1634
There is evidence of a decline in the human population in Australia during the period of the supernova event 30,000 to 40,000 years ago.
“There is also some evidence of a decline in the human population in Australia during this period.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:2185-2275 observation first hand
1635
The Atayal people of Taiwan have handed down a legend describing a time when a second sun appeared in the sky.
“What may be a memory of this, in the form of a legend, has been handed down for countless generations by the Atayal people of Taiwan. It tells of a time when a second sun did appear in the skies.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:2849-3038 testimony second hand
1636
The Atayal "twin suns" story describes a second sun beginning to rise when the first one set, causing extreme overheating and drought.
“The story of the “twin suns” says that a second sun began to rise when the first one set, causing extreme overheating and drought.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:3045-3167 testimony second hand
1637
Earth has, for the past few million years, been passing through a galactic arm, visible in the night sky as the Milky Way.
“This is because we have, for the past few million years, been passing through a galactic arm. This is visible in the night sky as the great arch of stars we call the Milky Way.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:3404-3576 observation first hand
1638
The region of the galaxy Earth currently occupies, known as the Local Bubble, has been formed over millions of years by supernova explosions.
“the specific area we are in, known as the Local Bubble, has been formed over millions of years by supernova explosions”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:3707-3815 observation first hand
1639
Only six stars of the Pleiades (Seven Sisters) are visible to the naked eye of the average person.
“all agree that there are only six stars visible to the naked eye of the average person”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:4980-5060 observation first hand
1640
Homo sapiens were already present in much of Africa, Asia, Australia, and southern Europe at the time the Pleiades last appeared as seven distinct stars, and Neanderthals were not yet extinct.
“Homo sapiens were already present in much of Africa, Asia and Australia and southern Europe, and Neanderthals were not yet extinct.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:5658-5781 observation first hand
1641
About 30,000 years ago there was a reversal of Earth's magnetic field known as the Laschamp excursion.
“Besides the extinction of the megafauna in Southeast Asia 30,000 years ago, there was a reversal of the Earth’s magnetic field known as the Laschamp excursion.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:5961-6110 observation first hand
1642
Ice cores, marine deposits, and tree ring evidence show a spike in carbon-14 and beryllium-10 isotopes during the period of the Laschamp excursion.
“In addition, ice cores, marine deposits and tree ring evidence show a spike in carbon-14 and beryllium-10 isotopes during the same period.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:6301-6432 measurement first hand
1643
The period of upheaval known as the Younger Dryas started about 12,000 years ago.
“The period of upheaval started about 12,000 years ago.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:685-735 observation first hand
1644
If the Geminga supernova took place as described, its physical debris would have reached Earth between 10,000 and 20,000 years ago, depending on velocity.
“If a supernova took place then, its physical debris would have reached Earth between 10,000 and 20,000 years ago, depending on velocity.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:6915-7042 opinion first hand
1645
The Younger Dryas was named after a cold-weather plant called the Dryas, whose range expands when planetary temperatures drop.
“It was named after a cold-weather plant called the Dryas, whose range expands when planetary temperatures drop.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:740-846 observation first hand
1646
The earliest surviving story of a war between the gods is the Egyptian myth of the conflict between Set and Osiris, which describes a struggle between chaos and order with order winning.
“the earliest surviving story of one, the Egyptian myth of the conflict between Set and Osiris, describe a struggle between chaos and order, with order winning in the end”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:8225-8391 observation first hand
1647
The Older Dryas took place about 2,000 years before the Younger Dryas and was not as intense.
“The Older Dryas took place about 2,000 years previously and was not as intense.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:852-923 observation first hand
1648
The Hindu texts Mahabharata and Ramayana date from much later than the Egyptian myth of Set and Osiris and both involve detailed descriptions of what would have been a war in space.
“Two stories, both dating from much later than Osiris and Set—the Hindu Mahabharata and Ramayana—involve detailed descriptions of what would have been a war in space.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:8844-9003 observation first hand
1649
In the Mahabharata and Ramayana, warcraft called vimanas are described as able to travel at great speed, ascend vertically, cover interplanetary distances, and hover.
“In these stories, warcraft called vimanas are described that could travel at great speed, ascend vertically, cover interplanetary distances and hover.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:9010-9154 observation second hand
1650
The vimana propulsion systems in the Mahabharata and Ramayana are vaguely explained as being connected with mercury.
“Their propulsion systems are vaguely explained as being connected with mercury, but we have no knowledge of how such a thing might work.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:9161-9292 observation second hand
1651
The Vaimanika Shastra probably, and controversially, dates from the early twentieth century.
“A more recent document, the Vaimanika Shastra, probably—and controversially—dating from the early twentieth century, explains the propulsion system in various ways”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:9298-9457 opinion first hand
1652
The Vaimanika Shastra describes a vimana propulsion system involving a circular device that spins rapidly.
“one of which involves a circular device that spins rapidly”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:9463-9514 observation second hand
1653
Whitley Strieber has been close enough to a modern UFO while it was slowing down to hear something that had been spinning inside it at high speed coming to a softly clattering stop.
“I have been close enough to a modern UFO while it was slowing down to hear something that had been spinning inside it at high speed coming to a softly clattering stop.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:9523-9685 testimony first hand
1654
The flight characteristics described in the Mahabharata and Ramayana match those of the TicTac and Gimbal UFOs.
“The flight characteristics described in the two ancient texts also match those of the TicTac and Gimbal UFOs”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:9692-9796 opinion first hand
1655
The flight characteristics described in the Mahabharata and Ramayana also match what was described in the September 23, 1947 Twining Memo.
“as well as what was described in the September 23, 1947 Twining Memo”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:9802-9866 opinion first hand
1656
In the September 23, 1947 Twining Memo, General Nathan Twining, then commanding officer of the Air Materiel Command at Wright Field in Dayton, Ohio, describes the objects' functionality as displaying extraordinary manoeuvrability and high speed.
“in which General Nathan Twining, then the commanding officer of the Air Materiel Command at Wright Field in Dayton, Ohio, describes their functionality as displaying extraordinary maneuverability and high speed”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:9872-10077 administrative second hand
1657
Whitley Strieber interprets the appearance of the Eye of Horus during Raven Dana's 1988 contact experience as complementing the flow of kundalini energy and suggesting the end of Organ Kundabuffer, representing the healing of psychological injury from a long-ago stellar explosion.
“The Eye of Horus was there to complement the flow of kundalini energy and suggest the end of kundabuffer, which can be seen as, at last, the healing of the psychological injury we received from that long-ago stellar explosion and the agony it visited upon our planet, and on us.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:10234-10509 opinion first hand
1658
Whitley Strieber observes that current civilisation is present to the ends of the Earth, covering the planet with its output, unlike any evidence of a lost pre-Younger Dryas civilisation.
“Everywhere you look, our current civilization announces itself. It is present to the ends of the Earth and beyond, covering the planet with its vast output.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:10650-10799 opinion first hand
1659
Whitley Strieber believes that any pre-Younger Dryas civilization would not have had cities as currently understood, and its technology resembled what he describes visitors using rather than historical human technology.
“It probably didn’t have cities as we now understand them, and the technology it utilized was much more like what we see our visitors using than what we have developed during the historical period.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:1188-1377 opinion first hand
1660
The Younger Dryas was a catastrophe severe enough that its full effect on human bodies, brains and minds has not been fully understood.
“The Younger Dryas was a catastrophe so great that we simply have not been able to grasp its full meaning, let alone understand its effect on our bodies, brains and minds.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:144-308 opinion first hand
1661
Whitley Strieber and other close encounter witnesses have observed the visitors communicating through mind-to-mind telepathy.
“more similar to what I and other close encounter witnesses have observed among the visitors, which is mind to mind telepathy”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:1488-1603 testimony first hand
1662
During the Younger Dryas, a vast toxic lake formed at the heart of the North American continent after a continental fire and subsequent flood, and survivors clung to life around its peripheries.
“the few survivors would have been clinging to life around the peripheries of the vast, toxic lake that was what remained after the continental fire and the flood that followed it. This lake stretched across the entire heart of the continent.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:2725-2956 opinion first hand
1663
The Black Mat, a layer of the Younger Dryas boundary consisting primarily of charcoal and algae skeletons, was formed as the vast toxic lake left behind by the continental fire evaporated.
“When it evaporated, the ash and plankton shells that were left behind became the Black Mat, which is a layer that primarily consists of charcoal and the skeletons of algae.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:2967-3133 opinion first hand
1664
The Black Mat material was deposited as a result of a massive continental fire followed by an equally huge flood covering a vast area of the North American continent.
“This material was deposited as a result of a massive, continental fire which was followed by an equally huge flood. This almost unimaginable event involved a vast area of the North American continent.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:3140-3330 opinion first hand
1665
The Younger Dryas involved the redrawing of every coastline on the planet.
“It involved such profound generalized destruction, including the redrawing of every coastline on the planet”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:315-416 opinion first hand
1666
Whitley Strieber believes people living prior to the Younger Dryas were attuned to planetary energies in ways enabling them to move gigantic stones and perform other remarkable feats.
“Even though the people living prior to the advent of the Younger Dryas were attuned to the energies of the planet in ways that enabled them to move gigantic stones and probably do many other remarkable things”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:3342-3544 opinion first hand
1667
Whitley Strieber believes the sheer pressure of constant danger during the Younger Dryas would have disrupted skills requiring extreme concentration, such as levitation.
“The sheer pressure of constant, immediate danger would have disrupted skills that require extreme concentration such as levitation.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:4063-4183 opinion first hand
1668
Whitley Strieber believes the ego would have expanded dramatically during the Younger Dryas as an adaptation essential for individual survival.
“Most importantly, the ego would have expanded dramatically, an adaptation essential for survival of the individual.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:4195-4299 opinion first hand
1669
If organised human communities existed before the Younger Dryas, all direct traces of them have disappeared.
“if there were organized human communities present before it happened, they and all direct traces of them have disappeared”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:430-540 opinion first hand
1670
Whitley Strieber believes extensive, worldwide social groups connected by telepathy would have contracted and then disappeared during the Younger Dryas as individuals struggled for local survival.
“Extensive, even worldwide social groups connected by telepathy would have first contracted, then disappeared as individuals struggled to maintain local and individual survival.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:4311-4478 opinion first hand
1671
Whitley Strieber believes the entire Younger Dryas population would have suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
“In people with post-traumatic stress disorder, which would have included the entire Younger Dryas population”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:5151-5249 opinion first hand
1672
Despite evidence of a large-scale disaster and difficult-to-explain artefacts and ruins around the world, there has been no robust effort to map pre-ice-age coastlines in search of ancient community sites.
“Despite the extensive and undeniable evidence of the tremendous scale of the disaster, and a substantial number of difficult-to-explain artifacts and ruins around the planet, there has been no robust effort to map the pre–ice age coastlines in search of likely sites for ancient communities.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:554-833 opinion first hand
1673
Whitley Strieber believes disruptions to cortisol regulation would also have affected the pineal gland, which could be the reason humans lost certain traditional powers of consciousness.
“These disruptions would also have affected the pineal gland, which could be the core reason that we lost the powers that are under discussion here.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:5872-6014 opinion first hand
1674
Whitley Strieber believes memories of lost pineal-related powers could persist in tradition despite the Younger Dryas occurring more than 12,000 years ago, since stories are known to persist for much longer periods of time.
“As to it seeming unlikely that memories of lost powers could go back to more than 12,000 years ago, we have already seen that stories can persist for much longer than that.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:7749-7916 opinion first hand
1675
Whitley Strieber suggests the elaborate instruments and rituals of humanity's earliest religions may have represented attempts to use magic to restore lost powers associated with the pineal gland, modelled on ancient instruments now submerged in the world's oceans.
“The elaborate instruments and rituals of our earliest religions may have represented attempts to use magic to bring those powers back, and the instruments used in those rituals might have been modeled on those of long ago, now drowned and buried in the oceans of the world, that once had a role in activating our lost powers through ritual.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:8216-8549 opinion first hand
1676
Archaeological excavation has focused on what were formerly uplands, which are generally less populated than regions closer to the oceans.
“Instead, what we have done is dig in what were in those days uplands, which are generally less well populated than regions closer to the oceans.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:846-983 opinion first hand
1677
The eyes depicted on the cover of The Fourth Mind are shown naked, without coverings.
“It is for this reason that the eyes on the cover of this book are naked.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:8558-8624 administrative first hand
1678
In 1988, Raven Dana experienced a contact event at Whitley Strieber's cabin.
“This awakening was perhaps prophesied as long ago as 1988, when Raven Dana’s contact occurred at our cabin.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:9002-9103 testimony second hand
1679
Anne Strieber gathered a number of people at the cabin whom she felt might have contact, based on descriptions of their previous experiences and their continued active engagement.
“Anne had gathered a number of people at the cabin who she felt might have contact, largely based on descriptions that they had sent us of their previous experiences, and the fact that they were still actively engaged.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:9190-9399 testimony first hand
1680
Anne Strieber had a number of successful contact sessions of this kind at the cabin.
“She had a number of successful sessions like this.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:9408-9453 testimony first hand
1681
During the 1988 contact experience of Raven Dana at Strieber's cabin, she found herself late one night with one of the little grey beings standing beside her bed.
“In this one, Raven Dana found herself late one night with one of the little gray people standing beside her bed.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:9460-9568 testimony second hand
1682
During the 1988 contact experience, the being took Raven Dana's hand and sent an energy she identified as kundalini coursing through her body.
“It took her hand and sent the type of energy that I have identified as kundalini coursing through her body.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:9573-9675 testimony second hand
1683
During the same event, Raven Dana saw what she identified as the left eye of Horus hanging on the wall at the foot of her bed.
“At the same moment, she saw what she identified as the left eye of Horus hanging on the wall at the foot of the bed.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:9681-9793 testimony second hand
1684
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber had no such object as the Eye of Horus in their house, leading Whitley Strieber to infer it appeared as part of the communication with Raven Dana.
“As we had no such object in the house, it can be inferred that it was there as part of the communication.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch24:9798-9889 opinion first hand
1685
The Japanese megalithic site with fitted stonework lies near Shurijo Castle on Okinawa.
“The Japanese site lies near Shurijo Castle on Okinawa.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:1061-1107 observation first hand
1686
Ed Leedskalnin used limestone at Coral Castle because it is soft and easy to work.
“He obviously used limestone because it is soft and easy to work”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:10755-10814 opinion first hand
1687
There is evidence that powerful, extremely accurate saws were used at both the Osirion in Egypt and Baalbek in Lebanon.
“I might note here that at both the Osirion and Baalbek, there is evidence that powerful, extremely accurate saws were used”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:10963-11081 observation first hand
1688
Ed Leedskalnin's stonecutting method at Coral Castle did not involve the powerful, accurate saws used at the Osirion and Baalbek.
“but Ed’s stonecutting was not done in that way”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:11087-11130 opinion first hand
1689
The gigantic stones at the Baalbek platform in Lebanon could be moved today only with enormous difficulty, if at all.
“gigantic stones, which could be moved today only with enormous difficulty, if at all, are found in the Baalbek platform in Lebanon and in the Osirion in Egypt”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:1129-1282 observation first hand
1690
The gigantic stones at the Osirion in Egypt could be moved today only with enormous difficulty, if at all.
“gigantic stones, which could be moved today only with enormous difficulty, if at all, are found in the Baalbek platform in Lebanon and in the Osirion in Egypt”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:1129-1282 observation first hand
1691
Whitley Strieber witnessed a strange-looking person appear to use mind control on clerks and customers in a drugstore while he and Anne Strieber lived in San Antonio.
“I once witnessed a very strange-looking person loading shopping bags with smoking materials in our local drugstore when Anne and I lived in San Antonio. While this was happening, the clerks and all the other customers stood as still as stones, staring straight ahead.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:11463-11724 testimony first hand
1692
During the San Antonio drugstore incident, the man Whitley Strieber saw gave him a look of sinister complicity as he left, after which everyone in the store resumed normal activity with no awareness they had been affected.
“I will never forget the look of sinister complicity that the man gave me as he left. As soon as he was out the door, everybody came back to life, none of them showing the slightest awareness that they had been “turned off.””
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:11731-11949 testimony first hand
1693
Whitley Strieber has witnessed many incidents of mind control.
“This is only one of many incidents of mind control I have witnessed”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:11955-12013 testimony first hand
1694
The seven ta-ntr described in the Pyramid Text correspond to the seven chakras and are fundamental to both Egyptian and Indian ideas about body energy.
“These seven ta-ntr correspond to the seven chakras, and are fundamental to both Egyptian and Indian ideas about body energy.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:12674-12791 opinion first hand
1695
The stones at the Baalbek platform and the Osirion were cut with extraordinary accuracy using tools of which there is no surviving record.
“The stones were cut with extraordinary accuracy using tools of which we have no record.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:1289-1369 observation first hand
1696
No tools have been found anywhere in Egypt that could have cut the stones of the Osirion and many other ancient Egyptian sites.
“no tools have been found anywhere in Egypt that could have cut the stones of the Osirion and many of the other sites”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:13625-13736 observation first hand
1697
If Ed Leedskalnin learned Egyptian magic, it would probably have been in his native Latvia.
“If Ed learned Egyptian magic, it would probably have been in his native Latvia.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:13744-13816 opinion first hand
1698
Archaeologists cannot accurately date the megalithic ruins found around the world and instead date them by association with other evidence.
“We cannot accurately date any of these ruins. Instead, archaeologists date them by association.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:1437-1520 opinion first hand
1699
Whitley Strieber believes the 'kundabuffer' Gurdjieff described was the terror of the Younger Dryas as it unfolded over roughly two thousand years.
“I think that “kundabuffer” was the terror of the situation itself, as it unfolded across the two thousand years of the Younger Dryas.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:15299-15426 opinion first hand
1700
Whitley Strieber believes that ancient and modern stories describing an unimaginably distant war actually refer to a natural event that resembled a war among gods, with the heavens flashing with strange fires for years and raining destruction.
“while ancient sources as well as modern stories tell of an unimaginably distant war, I think that it is clear that it was a natural event that must have looked like a war among gods, as, for years and years, the heavens flashed with strange and terrible fires and rained destruction”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:15848-16119 opinion first hand
1701
Whitley Strieber believes ancient peoples worldwide lost or intentionally abandoned old powers of mind, including levitation and telepathy, believing their use had angered the gods.
“I think that the old powers of mind were lost or perhaps even intentionally abandoned by peoples worldwide who concluded that their use of them were angering the gods. And it wasn’t just levitation that was involved, but also other siddhis, such as telepathy”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:16133-16382 opinion first hand
1702
Some videos of UFOs made at close range with high clarity reveal lines of force around the objects, likely visible because the objects generate magnetic fields intense enough to affect the cameras.
“Some videos of UFOs, made at fairly close range and with high clarity, reveal lines of force around the objects that are likely visible in the digital medium because the objects are generating magnetic fields so intense that they affect the cameras.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:17706-17947 opinion first hand
1703
The father of a childhood friend of Whitley Strieber experienced a car-stalling incident during the Levelland, Texas UFO car-stalling incident of 1957-11-02 to 1957-11-03.
“The father of a childhood friend had this experience during the Levelland, Texas UFO incident of November 2–3, 1957.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:18077-18188 hearsay second hand
1704
Whitley Strieber considers exposure to a very intense magnetic field practically the only thing that would stop a car's ignition system without causing lasting damage, as occurred during the 1957 Levelland, Texas UFO incident.
“Practically the only thing that would do this without causing lasting damage would be exposure to a very intense magnetic field.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:18478-18600 opinion first hand
1705
Whitley Strieber suggests that the presence of intense magnetic fields around UFOs defying gravity would indicate a relationship between magnetism and gravity, even though such a relationship is not otherwise seen.
“While we do not see magnetic fields as being related to gravity, the presence of intense magnetic fields around UFOs which are defying gravity would suggest that such a relationship does exist.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:18608-18795 opinion first hand
1706
Whitley Strieber considers it probable that Ed Leedskalnin's secret for moving stones at Coral Castle without unusual tools involved mental control of a physical force.
“Given the fact that Ed didn’t have any unusual tools, it is also probable that the mind can control it in some way, which would be Ed’s secret.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:18802-18938 opinion first hand
1707
Whitley Strieber believes levitation of both the body and objects, mind control, and telepathy are real human capabilities that people simply do not realise they possess.
“What this all adds up to is that levitation, both of the body and of objects, is real, as are mind control and telepathy. These are all human capabilities that have been observed even in people like Ed and the woman Paul Eno saw levitate. It’s not that we don’t possess them, but that we don’t realize it.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:18947-19249 opinion first hand
1708
Whitley Strieber believes that when humans interact with the visitors they easily use telepathy, indicating that humanity still possesses this dormant ancient power.
“The reason that I am so sure that we can regain it is that, when we are with the visitors, we fall very easily into using it. Therefore, we still possess it, but, like the rest of our ancient powers, it lies sleeping now and will continue to do so unless awakened.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:19550-19805 opinion first hand
1709
Whitley Strieber suspects Ed Leedskalnin's obsessive love of "Sweet Sixteen" may have had an ego-suppressing effect on his personality similar to that of religious ecstatics fixating on their love of Jesus.
“I suspect that Ed’s obsessive love of “Sweet Sixteen” might have had a somewhat similar effect on his personality, so that in fixating on his love of her, much as the ecstatics fixated on their love of Jesus, ego was put aside.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:20303-20524 opinion first hand
1710
Whitley Strieber considers telepathy the lost human power most needed to restore the fractured human community, more so than levitation.
“Of all the powers we have lost, the one we need most is probably not levitation. It is, rather, the one that is most able to restore the fractured human community, which is telepathy.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:21607-21780 opinion first hand
1711
Whitley Strieber considers scientific culture's rejection of the soul as the reason scientists would be poorly positioned to provide understanding if contact with visitors became physically manifest.
“The reason is that our scientific culture rejects the soul, and, as I have shown in this book and discussed in others, this denied aspect of the human being would appear to be what contact is primarily about.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:22034-22236 opinion first hand
1712
The Varginha alien, involved in the 1996 Varginha UFO incident in Brazil, expressed regret over the loss of the ability to self-heal.
“we might be able to make some progress toward recovering not only what the Varginha alien so poignantly regretted that we have lost—the ability to self-heal—but all the rest as well.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:23314-23491 hearsay
1713
Whitley Strieber, while looking down into the Osirion, felt almost able to touch the secret that Ed Leedskalnin somehow acquired.
“Looking down into the Osirion or walking into the Barabar Caves and listening to the eerily intimate echo of one’s own breath, one feels almost able to touch the secret that Ed Leedskalnin somehow acquired.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:23498-23695 observation first hand
1714
Whitley Strieber, while walking into the Barabar Caves, listened to an eerily intimate echo of his own breath.
“Looking down into the Osirion or walking into the Barabar Caves and listening to the eerily intimate echo of one’s own breath, one feels almost able to touch the secret that Ed Leedskalnin somehow acquired.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:23498-23695 observation first hand
1715
The Great Pyramid of Giza is aligned with a precision that would be difficult to achieve even with modern technology.
“The Great Pyramid, for example, is aligned so precisely that it is difficult to imagine something so large being sited with such precision even today.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:2440-2584 opinion first hand
1716
Underground sites in Türkiye, Japan and India show evidence of an extraordinary ability to tunnel.
“There are underground sites in Türkiye, Japan, India and other places that show evidence of an extraordinary ability to tunnel.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:2592-2712 observation first hand
1717
The underground tunnel systems in Türkiye were occupied like cities and could have housed tens of thousands of people.
“The underground tunnel systems in Türkiye were occupied like cities, and could have housed tens of thousands of people.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:2720-2832 opinion first hand
1718
The Barabar Caves in India are carved to an extremely high level of finish and their purpose is unknown.
“Another site in India, the Barabar Caves, are carved to an extremely high level of finish, and defy explanation.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:3405-3505 observation first hand
1719
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that a worldwide civilisation existed in the distant past and that unexplained ruins and artefacts around the world are its remains.
“our planet is strewn with so many unexplained sites and incredible structures that it can be argued that there was a worldwide civilization in the distant past”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:3616-3771 opinion first hand
1720
Diorite jars found in Egypt appear to have been created with diamond drill bits.
“There are worked artifacts such as diorite jars found in Egypt that cannot have been created without diamond drill bits”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:392-507 observation first hand
1721
Nan Madol, located in the Caroline Islands of the South Pacific, is possibly the most inexplicable ancient site in the world.
“Possibly the most inexplicable site of all is located in the Caroline Islands of the South Pacific”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:4289-4380 opinion first hand
1722
There is no record of any technology in use before the twentieth century that could have cut and transported the basalt logs of Nan Madol.
“there is no record of any technology in use before the twentieth century that could have cut them, let alone transported them”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:4808-4929 opinion first hand
1723
The diorite jars of Egypt are machined to a level of perfection that rules out handwork.
“which are machined to such perfection that handwork must be ruled out”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:517-583 observation first hand
1724
Nan Madol is sited in a shallow lagoon that would have been on a hill far above the waterline during the ice age.
“It is sited in a shallow lagoon that would have been far above the waterline during the ice age. In fact, it would have been on a hill.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:5779-5909 opinion first hand
1725
Whitley Strieber suggests that if Nan Madol dates from before the ice age it would have been a hill fort, with the nearby quarry situated on a hillside.
“The nearby quarry where the basalt logs were cut would have been on a hillside. If it is that old, then it would have been a hill fort.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:5915-6045 opinion first hand
1726
Whitley Strieber does not rule out the possibility that Nan Madol was constructed using genuine levitation and that the islands were built long ago.
“I am not going to argue that the story of the magicians cannot be true, and that the islands must have been constructed long ago.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:6099-6224 opinion first hand
1727
Whitley Strieber considers it not possible to move huge stones with a vague power called magic, yet notes there is no other explanation for how the megalithic ruins were moved.
“Like levitation, there is simply no way that huge stones can be moved with some vague something called “magic,” but, as in the cases of the other ruins mentioned here, there is also no other way they could have been moved.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:6567-6783 opinion first hand
1728
Whitley Strieber considers it impossible to have quarried and moved 750,000 basalt blocks to build Nan Madol in the few years apparently taken to construct it, even allowing for a small number moved by barge.
“But not a thousand or ten thousand, much less 750,000! This, quite simply, is not a possible thing to accomplish in the few years it apparently took to build Nan Madol.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:6970-7132 opinion first hand
1729
Exquisitely fitted stone walls in Peru and Japan appear to have been constructed using the same technique, as if the stone had been worked like clay.
“there are extensive. exquisitely fitted stone walls in Peru and Japan that were constructed using what must have been the same technique, that somehow enabled the working of the stones as if they were a sort of clay”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:724-935 opinion first hand
1730
The Ahu platforms and Moai of Easter Island may have been constructed using the same stone-working technique as the fitted stone walls found in Peru and Japan.
“The Ahu platforms of Easter Island, on which the famous huge Moai figures are placed, probably used the same technique.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:941-1050 opinion first hand
1731
Whitley Strieber considers the Atlantis story likely a distant memory of the Younger Dryas period, with a diffuse pre-catastrophe civilisation idealised into a single grand city.
“The Atlantis story is probably a distant memory of those times, with a diffuse civilization idealized into a single grand city.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:10094-10216 opinion first hand
1732
Whitley Strieber has personally experienced telepathy with the visitors, and states that when it occurs it feels natural, easy and unsurprising rather than miraculous.
“I have experienced telepathy with the visitors, and I'm not alone. ... It seems natural and easy and unsurprising.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:11312-11423 testimony first hand
1733
Whitley Strieber believes humanity was a telepathic species linked in a community of mind prior to the Younger Dryas catastrophe.
“Before the catastrophe, there is evidence that we were also a telepathic species, linked together in a community of mind that we urgently need to restore.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:13002-13148 opinion first hand
1734
Whitley Strieber considers the worldwide prevalence of ochre-blown cave handprints evidence of a lost telepathic state of mind rather than of long-distance verbal communication.
“I am not arguing that this phenomenon is due to people being able to speak across vast distance with their minds, but rather that there is a telepathic state of mind that we have lost.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:14194-14373 opinion first hand
1735
Worldwide cave paintings, nearly all depicting hunts, were created using very similar techniques and bear striking resemblance to one another across huge gulfs of space and time.
“cave paintings, almost all depicting hunts, are created using very similar techniques worldwide, and bear a striking resemblance to one another”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:16882-17018 opinion first hand
1736
The art of the Egyptian Old Kingdom and of the Sumerian civilisation, which arose at approximately the same time around 5000 BCE, are radically different from each other.
“The art of the Egyptian Old Kingdom and of the Sumerian civilization, which arose at approximately the same time, around 5000 BCE, are radically different.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:17329-17474 opinion first hand
1737
Cave paintings executed worldwide up until the Younger Dryas end with the handprints recorded in the Cueva de las Manos.
“cave paintings, which were executed worldwide up until the Younger Dryas, and end with the bizarre effort recorded in the Cueva de los Manos, are similar”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:17489-17635 opinion first hand
1738
The Greek sculptor Praxiteles was renowned for the perfection of his portrayal of the external human form.
“The earliest named artists, such as the Greek sculptor Praxiteles, were renowned for the perfection of the portrayal of the external human form”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:18671-18810 opinion first hand
1739
Modern portraitists such as Alice Neel and Lucian Freud are valued for their ability to expose the inner life of their subjects, a tradition that begins in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries with artists such as Leonardo da Vinci, whose Mona Lisa (La Gioconda) exemplifies it, and Rembrandt, particularly his later self-portraits.
“a modern portraitist such as Alice Neel or Lucian Freud are valued for their ability to expose the inner life of their subjects, a process that begins in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries with artists like Leonardo da Vinci and La Gioconda (the Mona Lisa) and Rembrandt, most particularly his later self-portraits”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:18822-19132 opinion first hand
1740
In Neolithic art, the human form is portrayed as a sketchy presence, with a few minor exceptions such as the Willendorf Venus, while animals hunted are depicted with extraordinary clarity.
“When we reach back into Neolithic art, we see the human form portrayed, with a few minor exceptions such as the Willendorf Venus, as a sketchy presence. By contrast, the animals who were the objects of the hunt are observed with extraordinary clarity.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:19144-19387 opinion first hand
1741
By approximately 5000 BCE, artistic expression became localised, with each individual culture developing its own art forms that were no longer as profoundly connected as artistic expressions had been during prehistory.
“By 5000 BCE, artistic expression is localized. Each individual culture is developing its own art forms, still stylized but no longer nearly as profoundly connected as were artistic expressions during prehistory.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:19642-19842 opinion first hand
1742
Carl Jung's theory of archetypes does not explain the universality of animal portraiture that existed in the Stone Age.
“but not the universality of animal portraiture that existed in the Stone Age”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:20277-20350 opinion first hand
1743
Handprints appear in caves separated by vast distances and by as much as 35,000 years in time, and probably by different creator species.
“nothing remotely like the use of handprints in caves separated by vast distances, as much as 35,000 years in time, and probably even different creator species”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:20369-20520 opinion first hand
1744
Whitley Strieber considers the modern practice of remote viewing fragile, requiring a high level of discipline and concentration to achieve reasonably accurate results.
“Having followed remote viewing efforts from various perspectives since its inception, I am aware of the fragility of the process and the high level of discipline and concentration necessary to actually gain reasonably accurate results”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:20640-20867 opinion first hand
1745
Even the best remote viewers do not achieve consistent success.
“not even the best remote viewers have consistent success”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:20890-20939 opinion first hand
1746
Whitley Strieber does not consider remote viewing to be an ability of the nonlocal mind he proposes might once have existed.
“remote viewing is not an ability of the nonlocal mind that I am suggesting here might once have existed”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:20979-21075 opinion first hand
1747
The siddhi Pratibha is said to open the door to higher knowledge.
“The siddhis that are relevant are Pratibha, which opens the door to higher knowledge”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:21178-21253 opinion
1748
The siddhi Dura Drishti is described as distant vision, akin to remote viewing.
“Dura Drishti, which is distant vision, akin to remote viewing”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:21264-21318 opinion
1749
The siddhi Divya Drishti is described as clairvoyance.
“Divya Drishti, which is clairvoyance”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:21331-21355 opinion
1750
None of the siddhis Pratibha, Dura Drishti and Divya Drishti are permanent states, but are conditional on a high level of spiritual attainment and extreme concentration.
“But none of these are permanent states. They are, rather, conditional on a high level of spiritual attainment and extreme concentration.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:21369-21491 opinion first hand
1751
No ruin elsewhere in the Roman Empire approaches the massive size of the Baalbek platform.
“There is no other ruin anywhere in the Roman Empire that comes close to approaching the massive size of the Baalbek platform.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:2161-2277 opinion first hand
1752
Whitley Strieber considers it hard to dispute that the human mind changed, given how civilisation suddenly appeared in numerous different places around the world at roughly the same time.
“the fact, as he points out, that the mind did change is hard to dispute, just looking at the way civilization suddenly appeared in numerous different places around the world at roughly the same time”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:23232-23426 opinion first hand
1753
Whitley Strieber considers the Isis farming-origin myth to probably be a memory of the first years of the Younger Dryas, when climate disruptions interrupted hunting practices and caused a long period of protein deprivation.
“This is probably a memory of the first years of the Younger Dryas, when dramatic climate disruptions interrupted age-old hunting practices and a long period of protein deprivation ensued.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:23953-24133 opinion first hand
1754
Whitley Strieber proposes that the Isis story emerged as a cultural artefact to explain a period when Egyptian women used their children and themselves as a food source before developing seasonal agriculture, as the Akhet (Nile flood) became regular with the melting of glaciers.
“As the glaciers melted, the Akhet, the Nile flood, became regular, and the Isis story likely emerged as a cultural artifact to explain a time when the women, who might have been experiencing the use of their children as a food source—and themselves when they ceased to be able to bear—developed seasonal agriculture to provide a more acceptable one.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:24142-24487 opinion first hand
1755
The Sumerians were apparently wandering hunter-gatherers prior to the appearance of their first urban communities in the fertile crescent between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers.
“the Sumerians were apparently wandering hunter-gatherers prior to the appearance of their first urban communities in the fertile crescent between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:24504-24675 opinion first hand
1756
Whitley Strieber proposes that the Apkallu myth may record an encounter with people forced from flooding communities at lower sea levels who brought knowledge of higher-level social organisation and farming techniques that saved highland hunter-gatherers from game scarcity.
“Perhaps what this really records is an encounter with people who were forced to come up from flooding communities at lower sea levels...bringing with them knowledge of the higher-level social organizations in which they had lived, and the techniques needed to rebuild them. They saved the hunter-gatherers from a catastrophic game scarcity by turning them into farmers.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:24969-25408 opinion first hand
1757
There is pre-conquest statuary of both Quetzalcoatl and Viracocha in their human forms that shows them as bearded and tall.
“there is pre-conquest statuary of both Quetzalcoatl and Viracocha in their human forms that show them as being bearded and tall”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:26738-26861 observation first hand
1758
All references to Quetzalcoatl and Viracocha being depicted as white-skinned come from later sources, after the pre-conquest statuary.
“As to white, that's an open question. All references to their color come from later.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:26867-26945 opinion first hand
1759
The Apkallu appear to predate Quetzalcoatl and Viracocha by thousands of years.
“the Apkallu appear to predate Quetzalcoatl and the Viracocha by thousands of years”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:27084-27161 opinion first hand
1760
The concept of true polar wander is not scientifically disputed, but it is thought that the slow wander of the poles takes place over millions of years.
“the concept of true polar wander isn't in dispute. However, it is thought that the slow wander of the poles takes place over millions of years.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:27590-27727 opinion first hand
1761
Whitley Strieber proposes that during the collapse of the ice sheet, when the planet's surface mass was shifting dramatically away from the poles due to rapid ice melt, there could have been a sudden polar wander misunderstood by Charles Hapgood, the originator of Earth crustal displacement theory, as being due to unknown geologic forces.
“there could have been a sudden wander, which was misunderstood by Charles Hapgood, the originator of Earth crustal displacement theory, as something that was due to unknown geologic forces when it actually takes place during the huge shifts in mass that occur at the end of ice ages”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:27872-28150 opinion first hand
1762
The planet has experienced something like twenty ice ages during the last 3 million years.
“Given that our planet has experienced something like twenty ice ages during the last 3 million years”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:28156-28251 measurement first hand
1763
Ancient sites are clustered in terms of their orientations, with groups of them oriented toward different northern positions that are not the current North Pole.
“That this may be so is suggested by the fact that ancient sites are clustered in terms of their orientations. Groups of them are oriented, for no apparent reason, toward different northern positions that are not poles.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:28341-28553 opinion first hand
1764
There are no fewer than 29 sites worldwide, including Teotihuacan, that are all oriented toward what is now Canada's Hudson Bay.
“there are no fewer than 29 sites worldwide, Teotihuacan included, that are all oriented toward what is now Hudson Bay”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:28761-28875 measurement first hand
1765
The Osirion is conventionally dated to the reign of the pharaoh Seti I, 1290-1279 BCE, but the monoliths from which it is constructed are far larger than the stones used in the nearby Temple of Seti I, which forms the basis for that dating.
“Conventionally, the Osirion is dated to the reign of the pharaoh Seti 1 (1290–1279 BCE), but the monoliths out of which it is constructed are far larger than the stones used in the nearby Temple of Seti I, which is the basis for its dating.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:29003-29236 opinion first hand
1766
Whitley Strieber proposes that if sudden polar wanders do occur, this would explain the many groups of ancient structures oriented toward northern points that are no longer the North Pole.
“Does this mean, then, that sudden polar wanders do occur? There are so many other examples of groups of ancient structures being oriented to northern points that are no longer the North Pole that it would seem that sudden wander might be the rule rather than the exception.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:29245-29508 opinion first hand
1767
Whitley Strieber proposes that Teotihuacan must be very old, probably as old as the Osirion and other megalithic sites around the world, built at a time when massive stones could be moved in the same way Ed Leedskalnin moved smaller stones in his construction of Coral Castle.
“These structures would, like Baalbek, all have been built at a time when we could move massive stones in the same way the Ed Leedskalnin did the smaller ones that make up his construction.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:29666-29841 opinion first hand
1768
Whitley Strieber hypothesises that all sites in the world containing gigantic blocks that would be hard to move today belonged to the same proto-civilisation, which was world-girdling, very ancient, and astonishingly capable, and probably linked by the same community of mind that inspired the handprints in caves.
“If we hypothesize that all of the sites in the world containing gigantic blocks that we would be hard put to move today belonged to the same proto-civilization, then it was clearly world-girdling, very ancient, astonishingly capable and probably linked by the same community of mind that inspired the handprints.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:30012-30313 opinion first hand
1769
Whitley Strieber considers Gunung Padang in Indonesia, Göbekli Tepe, Nan Madol, Baalbek, the Osirion, the sites on the Giza Plateau, and Sacsayhuaman in Peru to be astonishing artefacts of the proto-civilisation he proposes.
“I refer, of course, to the astonishing artifacts that it has left behind, from Gunung Padang in Indonesia to Göbekli Tepe, Nan Madol, Baalbek, the Osirion and many other massive sites. Probably all the structures on the Giza Plateau are involved as well, and sites in the Americas such as Sacsayhuaman in Peru, and again, many others.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:30362-30689 opinion first hand
1770
Whitley Strieber believes the proto-civilisation he proposes was destroyed by the vast upheavals, fires and floods of the Younger Dryas.
“During the Younger Dryas, there were vast upheavals, fires and floods, some of them huge and sudden. It must have been destroyed by this.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:31096-31228 opinion first hand
1771
Whitley Strieber does not think that the proposed proto-civilisation necessarily built cities in the conventional sense, but rather created massive monuments that now seem to have no clear purpose.
“But I don't think that we are necessarily going to find cities such as we think of them. Whatever was going on in that civilization, it required the creation of massive monuments that now seem to have no clear purpose.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:31234-31444 opinion first hand
1772
Whitley Strieber is more interested in discussing the powers the proposed ancient civilisation possessed, why those powers have been lost, and how they can be recovered.
“I am much more interested in the discussion of the powers the civilization possessed, why they have been lost, and how they can be recovered.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:32052-32183 opinion first hand
1773
Whitley Strieber judges from remains in Egypt and other sites that the proposed ancient civilisation had brilliant tools, such as exquisitely hard drill bits and powerful rock saws, and the means to deliver energy to them, but not engines of the sort used today.
“Not only did they apparently possess what to us seem to be magical powers, judging from what remains in Egypt and many of the other sites, they also had brilliant tools, such as exquisitely hard drill bits and powerful rock saws, and the means to deliver energy to them. They did not have the sorts of engines we would use, or we would have found their remains.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:32195-32548 opinion first hand
1774
Whitley Strieber considers the proposed ancient civilisation to have had greater mastery than modern engineers and craftsmen in stonecutting, the movement and fitting of extremely heavy stones, and the carving of smaller objects to extremely precise tolerances, yet to have left no tools behind.
“They were master engineers and craftsmen—in fact, their mastery was greater than our own in the areas of stonecutting, the movement and fitting of extremely heavy stones, and the carving of smaller objects to extremely precise tolerances. And yet, they left no tools.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:32558-32819 opinion first hand
1775
Whitley Strieber proposes three possible explanations for the absence of the ancient civilisation's tools: drowned beneath floods, hidden in the desert, or taken off the planet.
“There are only three possible answers, as far as I can see: drowned beneath the floods; hidden in the desert; taken off the planet.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:33041-33165 opinion first hand
1776
Whitley Strieber considers it beyond dispute that a crisis occurred whose memory still lingered in the fifth century BCE when Plato was writing.
“That there was a crisis, and that its memory still lingered in the fifth century BCE when Plato was writing, seems to me now to be beyond dispute.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:33301-33439 opinion first hand
1777
Whitley Strieber believes that, given what is now known about the dating of the Younger Dryas and how it unfolded, Plato was reporting something handed down in memory rather than confabulated.
“now that we know more about the dating of the Younger Dryas and how it unfolded, it is clear that Plato was reporting something that had been handed down in memory and not confabulated”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:33621-33793 opinion first hand
1778
Whitley Strieber proposes that the crisis described in Plato's Timaeus began with a great North American fire, followed by the sudden collapse of the Laurentide glacier.
“The event started with the great North American fire, then the sudden collapse of the Laurentide glacier. Fire, then flood.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:34199-34316 opinion first hand
1779
Whitley Strieber describes the Laurentide glacier as having been struck by something so powerful that it sent backsplash from the region that is now the Great Lakes into the Carolinas, and caused gigantic clumps of ice to sail across the continent into New Mexico.
“The glacier was struck by something so powerful that it sent backsplash from the region that is now the Great Lakes into the Carolinas, and caused gigantic clumps of ice to sail across the continent into New Mexico.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:34323-34531 opinion first hand
1780
Whitley Strieber proposes that a more developed civilisation existing near the oceans at the time would have experienced sudden inundations from the sea rising and submerging it, rather than the land sinking into the sea as Plato assumed.
“If a more developed civilization existed near the oceans then, it would have experienced some very sudden inundations as a result of this event. It wasn't, as Plato assumed, that it sank into the sea, but rather that the sea rose and submerged it.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:34540-34784 opinion first hand
1781
Whitley Strieber proposes that the force described in Plato's Timaeus may have been a desperate remnant attempting to save itself by invading the Mediterranean, and that it was defeated by fighters from neolithic Athens, a far less advanced group not practiced in warfare.
“It might well have made a desperate attempt to save itself by invading the Mediterranean. That it was defeated by a far less advanced group in the form of fighters from neolithic Athens makes it seem as if it must have been a remnant force, and probably also come from a community that was not practiced in warfare.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:34789-35096 opinion first hand
1782
Whitley Strieber notes that Egypt, the Levant, and to a lesser extent Türkiye are covered with mysterious ancient remains, suggesting whoever sent the invading force knew the region.
“That whoever sent it knew the region is likely, as Egypt and the Levant, and to a lesser extent Türkiye, are, as we have seen, covered with mysterious remains.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:35105-35256 opinion first hand
1783
Göbekli Tepe was constructed during the unfolding of the Younger Dryas.
“One of the sites, which was constructed during the unfolding of the Younger Dryas, Göbekli Tepe”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:35266-35357 opinion first hand
1784
The same three-square-with-arches carved form found at Pillar 43, the Vulture Stone at Göbekli Tepe also appears in rock art in the Americas and Australia.
“The oldest of the images may be at Göbekli Tepe, but some are also seen in rock art in the Americas and Australia.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:35883-35987 opinion first hand
1785
The three-square-with-arches carved form also appears in various Middle Eastern cultures, including Sumeria, Assyria, the Hittite culture, Babylon and Persia.
“They appear as well in the various Middle Eastern cultures, including Sumeria, Assyria, the Hittite culture, Babylon and Persia.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:35998-36119 opinion first hand
1786
The three-square-with-arches carved form also appears in Olmec reliefs from as recent as 400 BCE, and in other Mesoamerican cultures from even more recent periods.
“They also appear in Olmec reliefs from as recent as 400 BCE, and in other Mesoamerican cultures from even more recent periods.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:36127-36245 opinion first hand
1787
The three-square-with-arches carved form is present in many cultures across the world for a span of 8,000 to 9,000 years.
“This means that they are present in many cultures across the world for 8,000 to 9,000 years.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:36254-36340 opinion first hand
1788
The three-square-with-arches carved form is associated in many cultures with the appearance of early creative or inciting presences such as the Apkallu in the Middle East and the progenitor sage Panji on the island of Sumba in Indonesia.
“It can only be said with certainty that they are associated in many cultures with the appearance of early creative or inciting presences such as the Apkallu in the Middle East; in Indonesia on the Island of Sumba, the progenitor sage Panji; and the civilizing gods of Mesoamerica.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:36522-36790 opinion first hand
1789
The three-square-with-arches carved form is associated with fertility, as demonstrated by its connection to the rain god Tlaloc in Mesoamerica and the Tree of Life in Assyria.
“In addition to their identification with culture building, they are associated with fertility, as is demonstrated by their connection to the rain god Tlaloc in Mesoamerica and the Tree of Life in Assyria.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:36803-36999 opinion first hand
1790
The Baalbek platform is far more sophisticated in construction than the Göbekli Tepe ruins.
“The platform is far more sophisticated in construction than the Göbekli Tepe ruins”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:3731-3808 opinion first hand
1791
The Varginha alien demonstrated a healing ability that Whitley Strieber says humanity has lost.
“I have not yet specifically discussed healing, which is what the Varginha alien did to demonstrate to us what we have lost.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:37387-37505 opinion first hand
1792
Early medical texts from the Edwin Smith Papyrus, circa 1600 BCE in Egypt, through the classical period often mix surgery, healing concoctions and magic, but do not illustrate an ability to self-heal comparable to that of the Varginha alien.
“Early medical texts from the Edwin Smith Papyrus (Egypt, circa 1600 BCE) on through the classical period often mix surgery, healing concoctions and magic, but they do not illustrate the Varginha alien's ability to self-heal.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:37511-37730 opinion first hand
1793
There is no evidence remaining that humanity was ever proficient at dramatic and effective magical healing comparable to that demonstrated by the Varginha alien.
“there is no evidence remaining that we were ever proficient at such dramatic and effective magical healing as he demonstrated”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:37991-38104 opinion first hand
1794
The Baalbek region experienced significant climate changes most notably between approximately 10,800 and 10,900 BCE, coinciding with the Black Mat fires in North America.
“the Baalbek region, which had been temperate, would have experienced significant changes in climate, most notably between 12,800 and 12,900 years ago, which is when the Black Mat fires were taking place in North America”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:5023-5235 observation first hand
1795
The Black Mat fires in North America were far larger than the 2019-2020 Australian bushfires, which caused a measurable shift in climate due to the smoke haze injected into the atmosphere.
“These fires were far larger than the enormous 2019–2020 Australian bush fires, which caused a measurable shift in climate due to the smoke haze they injected into the atmosphere.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:5244-5411 opinion first hand
1796
The Black Mat fires burned for a hundred years.
“But the Black Mat fires burned for a hundred years.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:5815-5860 observation first hand
1797
Whitley Strieber considers the abandonment of the Baalbek constructions more understandable in light of the darkening skies caused by the Black Mat fires.
“Given this, the abandonment of the Baalbek constructions becomes more understandable.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:6025-6095 opinion first hand
1798
Whitley Strieber speculates that the cold accompanying the Younger Dryas darkness may have driven local populations in Türkiye to dig into the soft stone in Cappadocia to find shelter.
“The cold that would have accompanied the darkness might well have driven local populations in Türkiye to dig into the soft stone in Cappadocia to find shelter.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:6112-6263 opinion first hand
1799
Whitley Strieber speculates that Ed Leedskalnin may have known the method by which the massive Baalbek stones were moved.
“but Ed Leedskalnin probably did, as did whoever built Nan Madol”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:644-702 opinion first hand
1800
Whitley Strieber speculates that the stones of Baalbek may have been carved by a more complex society originating from somewhere else, possibly the Mediterranean coast of Egypt, which was a fertile area later submerged by rising waters during the Younger Dryas.
“The most logical possibility would have been the Mediterranean coast of Egypt. This area would have spread far beyond the current Nile Delta, and would have been among the most fertile places on Earth.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:7096-7291 opinion first hand
1801
Whitley Strieber considers it obvious that some sort of lost civilisation existed and that the archaeological evidence proves its people were master engineers.
“I think it's obvious that some sort of civilization existed and has been lost, and the evidence on the ground proves conclusively that they were master engineers.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch26:9066-9218 opinion first hand
1802
According to Whitley Strieber, Earth is currently transitioning astrologically from the Age of Pisces to the Age of Aquarius.
“At the present time, we are moving from Pisces to Aquarius.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:10494-10544 opinion first hand
1803
Whitley Strieber believes the true purpose of the visitors is to act as midwives to humanity's birth into a new stage of existence.
“their real purpose here is quite clear: they propose to be midwives to our birth—and I, for one, propose to help them do that.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:11930-12051 opinion first hand
1804
Whitley Strieber considers that the smoke pollution from the North American fires would have shut down the growth cycle of plants due to lack of sunlight and warmth, similar to the 536 CE global dimming event.
“the smoke pollution would have done exactly what it did in 536 CE, which was to shut down the growth cycle of plants due to lack of sunlight and warmth”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:1250-1395 opinion first hand
1805
Whitley Strieber believes humanity mostly lost its psychic and mind-based powers during the Younger Dryas, likely because most people who could use them died when lowlands were abruptly flooded during the sudden collapse of the glaciers.
“However it happened, for the most part we lost those powers during the Younger Dryas. Probably most of the people who could use them died when the lowlands of the world were abruptly flooded during the sudden collapse of the glaciers.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:12635-12860 opinion first hand
1806
Whitley Strieber considers the conventional explanations for the construction of megalithic structures around the world to be inadequate, and finds alternative archaeology's theories more probable.
“The conventional explanations for the megalithic structures all around us simply do not work. In this case, alternative archaeology seems to have the more probable theory.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:12977-13141 opinion first hand
1807
Whitley Strieber believes a powerful civilisation was destroyed by the violence of the Younger Dryas.
“A powerful civilization was destroyed by the violence of the Younger Dryas.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:13149-13218 opinion first hand
1808
Whitley Strieber believes acquiring the power of the siddhis will not require a special sort of person, but will be achievable by the average person.
“First, I think we have to get past the idea that acquiring the power of the siddhis would take a special sort of person. On the contrary, I think that the exact opposite is true. It is going to be the average person who can do this.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:13826-14053 opinion first hand
1809
Whitley Strieber believes the weakened, malnourished pre-Younger Dryas population would have become prey to disease and then been overwhelmed by planet-wide tsunamis.
“The population, weakened by malnutrition, would have then become prey to disease. Then this struggling population...would have been overwhelmed by enormous, planet wide tsunamis.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:1403-1540 opinion first hand
1810
Whitley Strieber believes that people in an ecstatic state can profoundly change their physical status, transforming a heavy body, complete with clothing, into something lighter than air.
“Judging from the stories of the levitators, it seems clear that the power is much greater in people who are in an ecstatic state. Such people can change their physical status profoundly, transforming a heavy body, complete with its clothing, to something that is lighter than air.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:16212-16488 opinion first hand
1811
Whitley Strieber states that many people have experienced telepathy with the visitors.
“Many people have experienced telepathy with them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:17306-17350 opinion first hand
1812
Whitley Strieber states that some people have experienced levitation while in close proximity to the visitors.
“Some have experienced levitation while close to them, as if proximity can spread it.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:17356-17437 opinion first hand
1813
Whitley Strieber states that a few people have experienced healing associated with the visitors.
“A few have experienced healing.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:17441-17464 opinion first hand
1814
Whitley Strieber considers fire and flood myths to be human memories of these natural catastrophes, anthropomorphised first as battles among sky-dwelling deities, then as punishment of mankind by flood.
“We remember all of this in our fire and flood myths. In them, we anthromorphized natural phenomena first into battles among sky-dwelling deities, then later into punishment of mankind by flood.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:1792-1979 opinion first hand
1815
Whitley Strieber recently returned from a visit to India, which he found to be the poorest, most crowded and spiritually vivid place he had ever been.
“I am just recently back from India, which I found to be the poorest, most crowded and spiritually vivid place I have ever been.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:18273-18395 testimony first hand
1816
Whitley Strieber believes that no gods or aliens were involved in the ancient catastrophe, and that humanity instead fell victim to a natural catastrophe governed by chance.
“No gods or aliens were involved. We fell victim to a natural catastrophe, which was governed by the real deity that rules over this universe, which is chance.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:2054-2205 opinion first hand
1817
Whitley Strieber believes a civilisation existed before the Younger Dryas that used powers of mind and Earth energies rather than construction equipment and heat to build its structures.
“Rather, to build its great structures, it used powers of mind and Earth energies where we use construction equipment and heat. Its technology was mind based.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:563-714 opinion first hand
1818
Whitley Strieber suggests the number 108 was intended in the distant past as a mnemonic device encoding the astronomical relationship between the Sun, Earth and Moon.
“given that this number also reveals the design of the relationship between Sun, Earth and Moon, it's not unreasonable that it was intended in the distant past to be a mnemonic device.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:6926-7102 opinion first hand
1819
Whitley Strieber attributes the sudden destruction of this pre-Younger Dryas civilisation to fearsome floods following the collapse of the Laurentide glacier.
“I think that we are this way because it was destroyed very suddenly by the fearsome floods that followed the collapse of the Laurentide glacier, which was caused by a series of impacts and probably took place over a matter of weeks or months.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:741-976 opinion first hand
1820
Were it not for the impact shock of the Chicxulub asteroid, humans probably would not exist.
“Were it not for the shock of that impact, we probably wouldn't exist, so for us it was nothing less than a miracle.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:7926-8033 opinion first hand
1821
Humans entered the last ice age living in trees and emerged from it organised into tribal units, wearing animal furs, bearing effective weapons, and accompanied by dogs that aided hunting.
“We entered the last ice age living in trees and came out of it organized into tribal units, covered with animal furs, bearing effective weapons and accompanied by dogs who aided us in hunting.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:8155-8339 opinion first hand
1822
The total number of species has been in decline throughout the roughly 2.8 million years since the ice age cycles began, with the decline reaching its climax at the present time.
“the total number of species has been in decline throughout the whole 2.8 million year period, and we are seeing the climax of that decline right now.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:9297-9442 opinion first hand
1823
Whitley Strieber considers the current crisis facing civilisation to be as dangerous, in important ways, as the Younger Dryas.
“We are in the early stages of a crisis right now that is in important ways as dangerous as that of the Younger Dryas, and our survival is as much in question now as it was then”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:93-265 opinion first hand
1824
Whitley Strieber believes the Laurentide glacier collapse followed years of slower flooding and weather-disrupting smoke pollution from immense North American fires.
“This came after years of slower flooding, and followed weather-disrupting smoke pollution from the immense North American fires.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch27:984-1106 opinion first hand
1825
The Fourth Mind is dedicated to someone from far away who died for humankind in 1996-01.
“This book is dedicated to someone from far away who died for humankind in January 1996, without whose sacrifice on our behalf we would have little chance of overcoming current challenges to our survival, let alone achieving our real goal, which is to express ourselves into the great cosmos, and join to the chorus of all being, the promise and mystery of the people of Earth.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch6:2-372 administrative first hand
1826
Whitley Strieber's observations of the visitors' anatomy occurred in the context of brief encounters between 1985 and the time of writing.
“As to those observations, I would like to make clear that they have occurred in the context of brief encounters between 1985 and the present.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:10293-10426 testimony first hand
1827
Whitley Strieber had apparent encounters with the visitors in his childhood but does not have detailed enough memories from that period.
“There were also apparent encounters in my childhood, but I do not have detailed enough memories from that period.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:10435-10541 testimony first hand
1828
A document deposited anonymously on Reddit and sent to Whitley Strieber in 2024 contains a specific detail that appears only in that document and in Whitley Strieber's own unpublished private observations of the visitors.
“But there is something specific in a document which was deposited anonymously on the social media site Reddit, and sent to me in 2024, that appears only in two places: in the document itself and in my own personal and private observations of the visitors in life, which I have never made public.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:10822-11110 testimony first hand
1829
Whitley Strieber considers the match between the anonymous Reddit document and his private, unpublished observations of the visitors to give the document significant credibility.
“In my mind, this fact gives the document significant credibility”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:11118-11171 opinion first hand
1830
The anonymous Reddit document sent to Whitley Strieber in 2024 contains information about the visitors' genetics that would lead them to display behaviours Whitley Strieber has observed in life.
“There is also information about their genetics in the document that would lead them to display behaviors that I have observed in life, meaning to me that the genetic information offered is probably accurate as well.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:11442-11652 testimony first hand
1831
The anonymous Reddit document sent to Whitley Strieber in 2024 contains speculations about the visitors' spiritual ideas.
“The document also contains speculations about their spiritual ideas, which I will compare to some of our own, as well as to some that have become clear from my involvement with them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:11658-11835 administrative first hand
1832
Whitley Strieber believes the author of the anonymous Reddit document did not realize that part of the document reveals the visitors' reason for coming to Earth.
“The author of the document doesn’t realize it, but this part of it also reveals their reason for coming here, and why they want us to survive.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:11841-11975 opinion first hand
1833
Whitley Strieber believes humanity has lost memory of the way the mind can influence the physical world.
“the truth is that we have lost our past and with it all memory of the way our mind can influence the physical world”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:1187-1297 opinion first hand
1834
The first part of The Fourth Mind is a detailed analysis of the physical bodies of one class of nonhuman being that Whitley Strieber calls visitors.
“The first is a detailed analysis of the physical bodies of one class of the being that most of us call aliens, but which I think of as visitors, as they enter and leave our world at will, coming from parts unknown.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:140-346 administrative first hand
1835
The Fourth Mind explores Whitley Strieber's relationship with the visitors, what they want to do for and with humanity, and humanity's most useful possible responses.
“Thus, the book also explores our relationship with them, what they want to do for us and with us, and our most useful possible responses.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:1473-1600 administrative first hand
1836
Whitley Strieber considers the catastrophe he refers to as unfolding in the present, not the future, with the visitors present and actively engaged with humanity on many levels.
“I do not refer here to something that will happen in the future. The catastrophe I am referring to is unfolding right now, and our visitors are present and actively engaged with us on many levels.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:1612-1801 opinion first hand
1837
World War One and the atomic bombing of Japan in 1945 together marked an unacknowledged desperation so great it was driving humanity toward suicide.
“The great human upheaval that started with the beginning of World War One in 1914 and ended with the use of the atomic bomb in Japan in 1945 signaled an unacknowledged desperation so great that it was driving us, as a species, toward suicide.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:2258-2492 opinion first hand
1838
In 1947, the presence Whitley Strieber calls the visitors, which had been present in a small way for thousands of years, began ramping up its activities in an effort to rescue humanity.
“In 1947, the presence I call the visitors, which had been here in a small way for thousands of years, began to ramp up its activities with an idea of trying to rescue us.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:2710-2877 opinion first hand
1839
Whitley Strieber describes the visitors' efforts to date as having been met with terror, obsessive secrecy, orchestrated derision, and gunfire.
“So far, its efforts have been met with terror, obsessive secrecy, orchestrated derision, and gunfire.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:2881-2974 opinion first hand
1840
The first part of The Fourth Mind offers a description of the visitors' anatomy, genetics, brains, and the way their minds work.
“It offers what I believe to be a reasonably accurate description of their anatomy, their genetics, their brains, the way their minds work”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:355-488 administrative first hand
1841
Whitley Strieber attributes humanity's overpopulation to biological factors, including lack of sexual seasonality, absence of fur, prominent genitals, and powerful libidos.
“Our lack of sexual seasonality, absence of fur, prominent genitals and powerful libidos have combined to make overpopulation a biological and mathematical certainty”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:4304-4459 opinion first hand
1842
Whitley Strieber considers population pressure the cause of both human wars and the decline of the planet's ability to support humanity.
“it is population pressure that is causing both our wars and the decline of the planet’s ability to support us”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:4474-4581 opinion first hand
1843
The Fourth Mind is titled for the concept of moving from a three-dimensional mind to re-learning the secrets of the fourth-dimensional mind that sleeps within humans but is alive in the visitors.
“The book is called The Fourth Mind because it concerns how to move from where we are now, locked in a three-dimensional mind, to learning—or more accurately, re-learning—the secrets of the fourth-dimensional mind that sleeps within us, but is very much alive in them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:5857-6119 administrative first hand
1844
The second part of The Fourth Mind is about human beings, what humans were like and what the world was like when humans possessed the same powers of mind observed in the visitors.
“The second part of the book is about us. It is about what we were like and what our world was like when we possessed the same powers of mind that we observe in them, why we lost them, and how we may regain them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:600-806 administrative first hand
1845
Whitley Strieber states the visitors teach him by lashing out rather than gently correcting him when he makes a mistake.
“On a personal level, this is how they teach me. If I make a mistake, they don’t gently correct me. Rather, they lash out.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:6362-6479 testimony first hand
1846
Whitley Strieber considers the visitors not demonic, despite this harsh teaching method leading many 'insiders' to think they are demonic.
“They are not demonic. Right now, this method is all they have except under very special circumstances where, if conditions are right, they can communicate mind-to-mind.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:6928-7091 opinion first hand
1847
Whitley Strieber considers humanity a species in amnesia about its past and in denial about its present.
“We are a species in amnesia about our past and denial about our present.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:813-877 opinion first hand
1848
Whitley Strieber has known since 1988 that nonhuman bodies were in the possession of the United States Department of Defense (DoD).
“Since 1988, I have known that there were nonhuman bodies in the possession of the United States Department of Defense.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9135-9245 testimony first hand
1849
Arthur Exon was a family friend of Whitley Strieber.
“General Arthur Exon, a family friend who was involved with the Air Materiel Command at Wright Field in July 1947”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9254-9362 administrative first hand
1850
Arthur Exon was involved with the Air Materiel Command at Wright Field, Ohio, in July 1947.
“General Arthur Exon, a family friend who was involved with the Air Materiel Command at Wright Field in July 1947, and was officially assigned to it in 1948”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9254-9405 administrative first hand
1851
Arthur Exon was officially assigned to the Air Materiel Command in 1948.
“and was officially assigned to it in 1948”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9368-9405 administrative first hand
1852
Arthur Exon spoke privately about the existence of nonhuman bodies held by the United States Department of Defense (DoD).
“spoke of them privately”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9411-9425 hearsay second hand
1853
In 1964, Arthur Exon was assigned as commander of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
“In 1964, he was assigned as commander of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9436-9504 administrative first hand
1854
Whitley Strieber describes a past catastrophe that almost drove humanity to extinction and caused humanity to lose contact with dormant strengths of mind.
“a catastrophe that almost drove us to extinction and, by so doing, caused us to lose contact with important strengths of mind that have been dormant within us ever since”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:950-1114 opinion first hand
1855
As late as 1988, Arthur Exon told Whitley Strieber that he was still consulting with groups at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base working on the question of nonhuman bodies.
“and as late as 1988 told me that he was still consulting with groups there working on the question”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9510-9600 testimony second hand
1856
Other witnesses have come forward stating that nonhuman bodies exist in the possession of the United States Department of Defense (DoD).
“Other witnesses have come forward stating that such bodies exist, as we shall see.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9610-9688 hearsay
1857
David Grusch went public under the Whistleblower Protection Act, referencing the existence of nonhuman bodies.
“As both David Grusch and Lue Elizondo, going public under the Whistleblower Protection Act, have also referenced the existence of these bodies”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9693-9829 testimony second hand
1858
Lue Elizondo went public under the Whistleblower Protection Act, referencing the existence of nonhuman bodies.
“As both David Grusch and Lue Elizondo, going public under the Whistleblower Protection Act, have also referenced the existence of these bodies”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9693-9829 testimony second hand
1859
The Fourth Mind is divided into two parts.
“The Fourth Mind is divided into two parts.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:97-133 administrative first hand
1860
Whitley Strieber feels free to discuss the nonhuman bodies because David Grusch and Lue Elizondo have publicly referenced their existence.
“I feel free to discuss them.”
The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch8:9837-9860 administrative first hand
1861
Whitley Strieber described the sound made by the alien beings he encountered as a fast, murmuring, chirping type sound.
“he, he describes it as like a fast, like murmuring, chirping type, uh, sound.”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:20:45.1-01:20:49.2 hearsay second hand
1862
An alleged whistleblower who worked on crash retrieval bodies, described in a Reddit document referenced in one of Whitley Strieber's recent books, was a biologist and geneticist who examined the blood, organs, eyes, fingers, and other anatomical details of the beings.
“this came up, uh, in one of Whitley's most recent books, which was based heavily on a Reddit document that came to light recently... It was this alleged whistleblower who worked on some of the bodies, uh, from the crash retrieval stuff... a biological guy, an anatomy guy, and he had to perform these, a geneticist, I think. And he would, you know, go through the blood and this and that, but also the organs and the eyes and the fingers and everything.”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:20:56.8-01:21:30.2 hearsay third hand
1863
The alleged crash retrieval whistleblower described in the Reddit document referenced by Whitley Strieber described the lung sacs of the alien beings as resembling those of birds, with no vocal cords.
“when it came to the lung sacs, there was uh they were like birds... he described them like birds lung sacks... in the way that um they they had no vocal cords and so kind of like a bird”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:21:42.2-01:21:56.2 hearsay third hand
1864
The alleged crash retrieval whistleblower described in the Reddit document referenced by Whitley Strieber described the alien beings as having brains approximately 20 percent bigger than human brains, requiring more oxygen.
“also it would provide more oxygen because they're they had 20 bigger brains than than we did and so they're they needed to fuel this brain you know with more”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:21:58.8-01:22:07.4 hearsay third hand
1865
Whitley Strieber said that the alien beings he encountered would have made high-pitched noises, possibly at frequencies humans cannot hear.
“That's Whitley, but he says they would have made high-pitched noises... High or low-pitched even as well that we would not be able to hear.”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:22:16.0-01:22:23.8 hearsay second hand
1866
John Ramirez, who worked at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) for 25 years as a Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) specialist, described alien beings matching the same description given by Whitley Strieber.
“I had a guy sit right there, John Ramirez... former, you know, 25 years, the CIA, SIGINT guy. He describes the same thing.”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:26:36.8-01:26:41.9 testimony second hand
1867
The book Communion was written by Whitley Strieber.
“the movie, the book communion by Whitley Strieber, you know?”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:41:27.4-01:41:30.3 administrative
1868
Peter Khoury listened to the entire Brian Bury interview of Whitley Strieber, staying in his car for 45 minutes instead of his scheduled 20-minute lunch break because he found the details of the story matched much of his own experience.
“I was supposed to have a 20 minute break. I was there for 45 minutes, just listening to every word. And as he told the story, there was a whole list of things that I can tick and relate to.”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:43:18.1-01:43:28.0 testimony first hand
1869
Whitley Strieber felt compelled to make a particular commissioned artwork the cover of the book Communion so that people could recognise the depicted being.
“Whitley's story about the, um, having that commissioned by the artist, uh, is a big story as well... he was, he felt compelled to make that the cover. Like he had to make that the cover... so people could recognize it.”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:44:53.7-01:45:07.8 hearsay second hand
1870
Peter Khoury would like to sit down with Whitley Strieber and Travis Walton to reminisce, having previously spent time with them in Queensland, Australia.
“I'd love to sit with him and Travis and, you know, hash up some memories. Cause, um, yeah, we spent some time in Queensland”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:47:35.8-01:47:42.4 testimony first hand
1871
When Bill Chalker spoke to Whitley Strieber about Peter Khoury's case, Whitley Strieber said that Peter Khoury and another lady from Australia are the only cases where the alien beings encountered were reported to have hair.
“when Bill Chalker spoke to him about my case, Whitley actually said to him, he said, Peter and another lady from Australia are the only cases where they've mentioned aliens have hair.”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 02:03:20.8-02:03:32.1 hearsay second hand
1872
Whitley Strieber said that in his own experiences the alien beings he encountered had no hair.
“He said, everybody else has no hair because he had experienced them and they had hair.”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 02:03:33.1-02:03:39.2 hearsay second hand
1873
The abduction procedures involve the most personal matters relating to reproduction and some type of insemination, details Erik Nanstiel covers in his book Angst in the Shadows and which Whitley Strieber has also provided in his book.
“it has to do with reproduction. It has to do with some type of, you know, insemination or whatnot. Like there is some very private details... you go over in this book and that, you know, Whitley has provided as well in his book.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 00:41:43.1-00:42:06.6 opinion
1874
Whitley Strieber was told by the Greys that vocal or voiced sentient species do not last very long because they lack a deeper empathy necessary to avoid self-destructive behaviours such as wars and increasingly powerful nuclear weaponry, and that only telepathic species have a chance of a long legacy.
“if you'll remember what Whitley Strieber said, what he was told by the Greys is that vocal or voiced sentient species don't last very long. Because we lack a deeper empathy that is necessary to avoid self-destructive behaviors like our wars and our ever increasingly powerful weapons like nuclear weaponry. ... only, only the telepathic species have a chance to have a long legacy.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 01:36:35.3-01:37:12.3 hearsay second hand
1875
The doctor creature had big cheeks, big bulbous eyes, a paunch belly sticking out, and very long fingers with pads on the ends, an appearance not unlike a being Whitley Strieber described.
“this thing had uh big cheeks and and big bulbous eyes and kind of a punch belly like sticking out ... not unlike whitley described ... it had very long fingers with like pads on the ends”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:04:57.9-02:05:22.4 testimony first hand
1876
Hans-Adam II was friends with Whitley Strieber and was strongly interested in UFOs.
“he was friends with Whitley Strieber and like, he was just really interested in UFOs.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:02:04.4-02:02:08.1 testimony
1877
Whitley Strieber is the author of the book Communion.
“[note: Whitley Strieber - Author of "Communion"]”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 line 315 administrative
1878
Chris Ramsay suspects Tim Taylor may be an experiencer, given his interest in the subject and his contact with Whitley Strieber, Charles Hall and Chris Bledsoe.
“I get the feeling might be an experiencer from having, you know, so much interest in the topic and talking to Strieber. What's his face? Charles Hall and all these other experiencers, Bledsoe.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:12:19.4-00:12:31.4 opinion first hand
1879
Whitley Strieber has said that alien hybrids chain smoke.
“they also say that, like, alien hybrids chain smoke or whatever. Like, that's, like, one of Whitley Striever's thing.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:29:24.5-00:29:30.1 hearsay second hand
1880
Jon Stewart released a video asserting that Whitley Strieber is a CIA agent, and described it as news that would break the internet in 2026.
“he has this video he came out with saying, Whitley Striever is a CIA agent. He goes, this is going to break the internet news of 2026.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:12:17.0-01:12:23.2 hearsay third hand
1881
Jesse Michels texted Whitley Strieber about Jon Stewart's claim that Strieber is a CIA agent, and Strieber called the claim absolutely nuts.
“I texted Whitley. I was like, is this legit, dude? And he's like... He goes, that's absolutely nuts.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:12:29.2-01:12:35.6 testimony second hand
1882
Whitley Strieber holds that the Non-Human Intelligence is not forcing itself on humanity but tempting humans further and further, in a manner that may resemble a slow-moving predator.
“They're tempting us farther and farther, but at the same time, there are predators who sort of work like that. who move very, very slowly until suddenly everything changes and the mouse ends up in the jaws of the snake.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:00:49.2-00:01:06.1 opinion first hand
1883
The Lily Dale Assembly is the assembly of the Spiritualist Church of America, located near Lake Erie in upstate New York.
“That's the assembly of the Spiritualist Church of America up near Lake Erie in upstate New York, which is a charming place.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:03:03.5-00:03:12.8 administrative first hand
1884
Whitley Strieber does not know what became of the hybrid children possibly produced from the material taken from him, and considers possibilities ranging from their living rich lives and conducting humans into the next life to their souls being farmed and harvested.
“They could be having extraordinary lives, wonderful rich lives. ... It could be that they were devoured or that their souls were raised like farm animals and harvested somehow. It could be anything. That's the agony of it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:03:32-00:03:40 opinion first hand
1885
The molecular biologist's account of dissecting a non-human being coincided closely with Whitley Strieber's own experience of the physicality of the beings.
“how that really coincided quite neatly with your experience of the physicality of the beings.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:04:21.9-00:04:26.9 opinion first hand
1886
Whitley Strieber has had numerous biologists examine the molecular biologist's account described in The Fourth Mind, and their responses were mixed: some said the account could not be a correct description because it did not match their understanding of biology, while others said it was possible.
“I've had numerous biologists look at this at this point, and it's a mixed bag in terms of some of them say, no, he couldn't have been describing this correctly because this is not what I understand of biology. Others have said, this is possible.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:04:31.4-00:04:48.7 testimony first hand
1887
Whitley Strieber believes the molecular biologist who described dissecting a non-human being was doing his best to remember something he had actually worked on.
“But I think he probably was doing his best to remember something he actually did work on.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:04:50.4-00:04:56.9 opinion first hand
1888
Whitley Strieber has been unable to make contact with the molecular biologist who described dissecting a non-human being.
“And I have not been able to contact him for obvious reasons.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:04:58.3-00:05:01.7 testimony first hand
1889
Whitley Strieber considers that people on the inside are actively engaged in pursuing those who break their security agreements, and that this is a serious business.
“we all know that they are very actively engaged on the inside in getting after people who break their security agreements. It's a serious business.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:05:02.5-00:05:15.2 opinion first hand
1890
Robert Sarbacher was a metallurgist.
“Dr. Robert Sarbacher, the metallurgist”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:07:05.4-00:07:07.0 administrative first hand
1891
Whitley Strieber sent Robert Sarbacher the first written material that became the book Communion, after the two had spoken on the telephone, and Robert Sarbacher died the same day the material was sent.
“the day I sent him, the first written material that became the book Communion went to Dr. Sarbacher after we had a conversation on the phone. He died that same day, apparently.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:07:11.2-00:07:24.8 testimony first hand
1892
Whitley Strieber never got back the written material he had sent to Robert Sarbacher that became the book Communion.
“and I never got the material back”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:07:26.2-00:07:27.5 testimony first hand
1893
Robert Sarbacher told Whitley Strieber that he had worked at the Battelle Memorial Institute.
“but he told me that he worked at Battelle.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:07:27.9-00:07:31.8 hearsay second hand
1894
Whitley Strieber argues that because both biology and metallurgy connect back to the Battelle Memorial Institute, investigators need to examine what is going on there.
“So you got biology, you got metallurgy, we need to go to Battelle. We need to see what's going on there.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:07:44.2-00:07:52.2 opinion first hand
1895
The Battelle Memorial Institute has publicly stated that it has not done any of the work on non-human biological material attributed to it.
“Battelle has stated publicly that they have not done any of this.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:07:59.7-00:08:04.4 administrative second hand
1896
Whitley Strieber's close encounter took place in 1985.
“versus what happened to you back in 1985 and where we are now?”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:08:54.7-00:08:59.5 administrative first hand
1897
Whitley Strieber considers that some parts of the emerging UAP subject are extraordinary and exciting while other parts will be really hard to deal with.
“some parts of this are, uh, really extraordinary and exciting. But other parts of it are going to be hard to deal with, really hard to deal with.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:09:18.6-00:09:31.6 opinion first hand
1898
Whitley Strieber is most worried by the possibility that the reality of the close encounter experience could burst into people's lives without warning rather than being discovered slowly over time.
“there's always the possibility that it could just come bursting into our lives without warning. And that's the part that worries me the most”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:09:39.6-00:09:48.1 opinion first hand
1899
In most close encounter cases the experience came into the person's life unexpectedly, while in a few cases the person had been consciously aware of it since childhood.
“when I look at the whole spectrum of the close encounter experience, most of the cases people just sort of it came into their lives unexpectedly a few cases they've sort of been consciously aware of this since they were kids”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:09:50.4-00:10:06.3 observation first hand
1900
Whitley Strieber calls the abrupt onset of the close encounter experience the 'moment of activation', when a person sees a UFO and the next thing they know they are inside it or have missing time, and they become totally obsessed with the subject.
“mostly it starts very abruptly when i call it the moon of activation when they see a ufo and the next thing they know they're in it or they they have missing time and they become totally obsessed with this”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:10:07.8-00:10:21.4 observation first hand
1901
Steven Spielberg captured, through Richard Dreyfuss's character in Close Encounters of the Third Kind, the total obsession that arises when a person comes up against an anomaly of this kind.
“Richard Dreyfuss' character in Close Encounters, Spielberg got that. He got that total obsession that happens when you come up against an anomaly like this.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:10:24.2-00:10:39.3 opinion first hand
1902
The United States government's Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena disclosure website has received something like 700 million views.
“right now, there's something like 700 million views of the new government's disclosure website”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:10:51.0-00:10:58.8 measurement first hand
1903
Most of the material on the United States government's Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena disclosure website is old and already known.
“most of the stuff on it is pretty old hat so far.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:10:59.3-00:11:01.8 opinion first hand
1904
Whitley Strieber regards the number of views of the United States government's Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena disclosure website as showing an extraordinary and immense level of public interest.
“But look at the number of views, the immense level of interest. It's extraordinary.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:11:04.6-00:11:08.6 opinion first hand
1905
Brazil holds a great deal more UFO material than most countries, and opening it up matters because the experience reported there is very challenging.
“In South America, Brazil undoubtedly has a great deal more than most countries. And that's important to open up because that's a really challenging experience down there.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:11:48.6-00:12:00.4 opinion first hand
1906
France has been collecting UFO information for years and it surfaces publicly only occasionally, and Italy probably holds such files as well, in Whitley Strieber's assessment.
“france i know does and at least i'm sure pretty sure it does that they've been collecting this information for years and it sort of edges up to the surface every once in a while uh and italy probably does as well”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:12:01.7-00:12:16.9 opinion first hand
1907
The United Kingdom has had extraordinary UFO cases and undoubtedly holds remarkable files, but is very quiet about the subject, in Whitley Strieber's assessment.
“i don't know about the uk i know the they must have they've had some extraordinary cases there and undoubtedly they have some some amazing files but... but they're very very quiet about this”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:12:17.9-00:12:34.2 opinion first hand
1908
The 2017 United Kingdom UFO file declassification contained little of substance and consisted of sighting reports.
“Whitley Strieber: yeah but it wasn't much there wasn't much to what they declassify Chris Ramsay: no it was sightings”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:12:43.4-00:12:47.3 opinion first hand
1909
Arthur Exon later served as commandant of Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
“General Art Exon, who was involved in this, later he was commandant of Wright-Patt”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:13:37.4-00:13:43.3 administrative first hand
1910
Arthur Exon told Whitley Strieber that in 1947 he was directly involved in what happened when the debris and the bodies were brought to Wright Field, as Wright-Patterson Air Force Base was then called.
“in 47, according to what he told me, he was directly involved in the what happened when the debris and the bodies were brought to Wright Field it was as it was called then”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:13:44.8-00:13:57.1 hearsay second hand
1911
At the time the debris and bodies were brought to Wright Field in 1947, Arthur Exon was in or worked with the United States Air Force Air Materiel Command under Nathan Twining.
“under General Twining he was in the air material command or worked in this”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:13:58.2-00:14:04.0 hearsay second hand
1912
Whitley Strieber considers that the United States Air Force Air Materiel Command was not large in 1947 and could easily have pulled in officers from other parts of the command when the Roswell material arrived.
“they could have easily pulled in uh officers from other parts of the of the command at the time because i'm sure that air material wasn't all that big and all of a sudden they had this major thing”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:14:04.6-00:14:14.6 opinion first hand
1913
Whitley Strieber spoke with Arthur Exon in 1988.
“he told me in 1988 when i talked to him”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:14:19.6-00:14:23.2 testimony first hand
1914
Arthur Exon told Whitley Strieber in 1988 that officials held 'pencils up' meetings on the Roswell material, meaning meetings that were not recorded, and that even in retirement he travelled to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base to brief the scientific group still working on the subject about what had been discussed.
“he told me in 1988 when i talked to him that they had a lot of pencils up meetings and that meant that he would go down he was still even in retirement going down to Wright-Patt from where his where he was to fill in the scientific group that was still working on this with what they had discussed in these meetings.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:14:19.6-00:14:41.8 hearsay second hand
1915
Because the 'pencils up' meetings on the Roswell material were not recorded, a great deal about the subject will never be known, in Whitley Strieber's assessment.
“Now, that means that there's a lot that we'll never know because it was hidden by not being recorded.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:14:43.0-00:14:48.6 opinion first hand
1916
Whitley Strieber believes many of the recorded government records on the UFO subject have been offloaded into the private sector.
“A lot of the records that were recorded, I think, have been offloaded into the private sector, and I can be fairly specific about that.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:14:53.2-00:15:01.2 opinion first hand
1917
Whitley Strieber was living in Woodstock, New York, about 145 kilometres north of Manhattan, in the early 1990s.
“Back in the early 90s, when I was living in upstate, well, it's downstate New York to most New Yorkers, but 90 miles north of Manhattan, the town of Woodstock”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:15:02.2-00:15:14.3 testimony first hand
1918
In the early 1990s residents of Woodstock, New York, began complaining that trucks going to the EG&G Rotron facility there were keeping them awake all night.
“people began to complain that there were trucks going to the EG&G Rotron facility in Woodstock waking, keeping them awake all night.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:15:15.6-00:15:27.2 observation first hand
1919
Documents were being moved in large quantities into the EG&G Rotron facility in Woodstock, New York, in the early 1990s, and Whitley Strieber would guess they came from government facilities.
“And apparently there were documents being moved in large quantities to that facility from goodness knows where, but wherever they were coming from, I would guess, were government facilities.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:15:28.6-00:15:42.6 opinion first hand
1920
EG&G Rotron is a private facility.
“EG&G Rotron is a private facility.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:15:43.9-00:15:46.1 administrative first hand
1921
Every document moved into the private EG&G Rotron facility in Woodstock, New York, passed out from under the Freedom of Information Act umbrella and was no longer accessible.
“And every document that went in there moved out of the freedom of information umbrella and was no longer accessible.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:15:47.4-00:15:56.3 opinion first hand
1922
Whitley Strieber believes that any genuinely substantive material on the UFO subject will have to be obtained from the private sector.
“if we are ever going to find any really substantive material about this, we got to get it from the private sector.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:15:59.7-00:16:07.2 opinion first hand
1923
Whitley Strieber considers that the United States Congress could legislate to recover UFO material held in the private sector.
“Well, Congress can do it. I mean, there can be legislation to do this.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:16:10.8-00:16:14.7 opinion first hand
1924
Whitley Strieber knows inventors whose inventions have been taken by the government in the manner described.
“I know inventors whose inventions have been taken that way. So that does happen. Definitely happens.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:17:00.6-00:17:06.0 testimony first hand
1925
A person known to Whitley Strieber invented an exotic communications system that was classified; the inventor was not deprived of the invention or the money from it, but can no longer talk about it.
“there's a case of, um, a communications system that I, someone I knew invented and his invention was classified it wasn't taken from him in the sense of they didn't say well we're taking your invention... he's still getting money from it but but it's classified and he can't he can't do anything talk about it anymore it's an exotic communication system”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:17:16.2-00:17:45.2 testimony first hand
1926
The classified communications system invented by an acquaintance of Whitley Strieber involves instantaneous communication and is not quantum communication.
“It's really exotic. And it involves instantaneous communications... And it's not... uh quantum uh quantum communications is something else”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:17:55.8-00:18:09.8 testimony first hand
1927
Whitley Strieber believes almost nobody is aware of the instantaneous communications system invented by his acquaintance.
“it's something that i don't think anybody is really very aware of”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:18:11.8-00:18:14.5 opinion first hand
1928
Whitley Strieber knows many people working partly in secrecy on these subjects who would like to be able to speak openly.
“i know a lot of people who are you know, kind of half in the shadows and half out and would like to be all the way out of the shadows for sure.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:18:30.9-00:18:37.6 testimony first hand
1929
People from military-industrial, government-contracting or intelligence backgrounds approach Whitley Strieber with information sometimes, though not every day, and he does not encourage it because he does not want to become involved in situations where he knows classified material.
“sometimes i wouldn't say that happens to me every day and i not really don't really encourage it because the last thing i want to do is getting involved in situations where i know classified material”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:19:00.8-00:19:12.8 testimony first hand
1930
There is no law against knowing classified material that falls into one's hands; only stealing it is illegal, in Whitley Strieber's understanding.
“not because it's illegal for me to know that i mean if i if it falls into my hands it's perfectly legal for me to do you know it's... there's no law against it if it falls into your hands you have to steal it”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:19:14.0-00:19:28.2 opinion first hand
1931
Whitley Strieber does not steal classified material and dislikes knowing such things, particularly when he is unsure of their classification status, which is often the case.
“and i don't do that i wouldn't come close to that but i don't like to know those things especially if i'm not sure where they stand which is often the case”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:19:28.8-00:19:37.4 testimony first hand
1932
There are things that the Non-Human Intelligence wants to keep secret, and Whitley Strieber found out the hard way that they can become just as angry as the government if their secrets are revealed.
“there are things that the visitors, NHI, want to keep secret too. And I've found out the hard way that, you know, they can get just as pissed off as the government if you spill their secrets.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:19:44.2-00:19:55.8 testimony first hand
1933
Whitley Strieber experienced an incident that he attributed to having let slip something the Non-Human Intelligence did not want him to share.
“Chris Ramsay: you mentioned that to me on the car ride here, that there was an incident that you deemed was because of something that you let slip that you shouldn't have. Whitley Strieber: That's right.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:19:56.4-00:20:08.9 testimony first hand
1934
Unlike the government, where a person knows they are crossing a line because they have signed a non-disclosure agreement or hold a security clearance, the Non-Human Intelligence require no security agreements and simply assume a person knows to keep their secrets, becoming very angry if the person does not.
“you know when you're stepping over the line because you presumably have signed a non-disclosure agreement or you have a security clearance or something. With them, they assume you know you're supposed to keep it a secret. And then if you don't, they get pissed off, really pissed off.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:20:19.3-00:20:36.2 opinion first hand
1935
When a person reveals something the Non-Human Intelligence do not want revealed, they conclude the person was stupid and inattentive, and there is no limit to how badly they may then frighten that person.
“if you say something or do something that reveals something that they don't want revealed, Then they think, well, he's stupid. He was inattentive. And, you know, the sky's the limit as far as scaring the hell out of you goes at that point.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:20:46.5-00:21:02.2 opinion first hand
1936
In Whitley Strieber's case the Non-Human Intelligence stopped at frightening him, or he would no longer be alive.
“Chris Ramsay: Do they stop at that? Whitley Strieber: Yeah, they did in my case or I wouldn't be here anymore.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:21:02.6-00:21:08.0 testimony first hand
1937
Whitley Strieber considers that what the Non-Human Intelligence could do to a person is worse than killing them, and that killing is only an incident within the range of what could happen.
“Chris Ramsay: Do you think that the NHI has the potential to like kill you over this or? Whitley Strieber: Oh, I think it's worse... I think killing is only an incident in what could happen.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:21:08.6-00:21:21.4 opinion first hand
1938
Whitley Strieber believes the Non-Human Intelligence possess a fully expressed capability, which may or may not be technology as humans understand it, that enables them to control the conditions of the soul.
“I think that they have. fully expressed, whether it's technology or not, I don't know, at least in the way we think of it, that enables them to control the conditions of the soul.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:21:24.7-00:21:39.6 opinion first hand
1939
Whitley Strieber holds that the soul is real.
“And it is real. The soul is real.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:21:40.6-00:21:43.1 opinion first hand
1940
Whitley Strieber considers it one of humanity's greatest weaknesses that most of its best minds dismiss the soul as nonsense when, for the Non-Human Intelligence, it is the central issue and what they care most about.
“one of the great problems we have and one of our greatest weaknesses is most of our best minds dismiss that as absolute nonsense when it is, in fact, as far as NHI is concerned, the central issue. It's what they care the most about.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:21:44.4-00:22:04.5 opinion first hand
1941
Whitley Strieber believes the soul is why the Non-Human Intelligence are here.
“It's why they're here.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:22:05.3-00:22:05.9 opinion first hand
1942
Whitley Strieber holds that the soul is not supernatural but a part of nature that humans do not yet understand and cannot yet detect, just as radio existed in 1850 before it was understood or detectable.
“It is not a supernatural thing. It is part of nature that we don't yet understand and can't yet detect. But it's just as real as radio was in 1850, which we didn't understand there and couldn't detect, but it was still there. The soul is the same.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:22:08.0-00:22:25.6 opinion first hand
1943
Whitley Strieber believes the soul is an energy humans cannot yet detect, that it is conscious energy, and that it will be detectable when it wants to be.
“it's an energy that we cannot detect yet. And part of the reason is I think it's conscious energy. and it's gonna be detectable when it wants to be”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:22:30.7-00:22:41.1 opinion first hand
1944
Whitley Strieber holds that what matters about humans being described as containers is what those containers contain.
“Yeah, well, that's what it's all about, is what the containers contain.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:23:32.8-00:23:35.5 opinion first hand
1945
Whitley Strieber was told by the Non-Human Intelligence that if he committed suicide they would capture his soul and confine it forever.
“And the message was, you must not commit suicide. If you do that, We will capture your soul and confine it forever. Forever.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:24:19.1-00:24:30.8 testimony first hand
1946
Whitley Strieber found the warning that his soul would be confined forever the most frightening thing he had ever heard.
“It was the scariest thing I ever heard in my life.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:24:32.8-00:24:34.8 opinion first hand
1947
Whitley Strieber was removed from his body by the Non-Human Intelligence and placed in a small white container in a non-physical state from which the only exit was to return to his body.
“And then they proceeded to demonstrate this by removing me from my body. And I ended up in this little white container that I could not get out of. in in the non-physical the only way out was to go back into my body”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:24:35.0-00:24:49.5 testimony first hand
1948
Whitley Strieber was not contemplating suicide at the time he received the warning about his soul being confined.
“the thing that was weird was i wasn't even thinking about committing suicide it's not something that's on my agenda ever”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:24:50.4-00:24:56.0 testimony first hand
1949
During a period when he was losing his money and his home, Whitley Strieber felt that Anne Strieber might be better off with the insurance money, but never considered it deeply.
“there have been times you know when i was losing all my money in my home and everything i felt Like, you know, maybe Anne would be better off the insurance money, but I never thought of it deeply.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:25:07.6-00:25:19.1 testimony first hand
1950
Whitley Strieber considers that the Non-Human Intelligence has the capability to confine a human soul forever.
“presumably they could do that. They could confine a soul forever.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:25:26.3-00:25:29.6 opinion first hand
1951
After the experience of being shown soul confinement, Whitley Strieber reassessed his moral life, regarding the matter as tangible rather than theoretical.
“What it did to me was I looked at my moral life in a whole new way because I thought, This isn't theoretical, it's tangible.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:25:53.1-00:26:02.5 testimony first hand
1952
Whitley Strieber believes that living a good moral life will help a person avoid having their soul confined, but he cannot prove it.
“I think living a good moral life will help you not end up in that situation, but I can't prove that.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:26:08.7-00:26:16.2 opinion first hand
1953
Whitley Strieber cannot dismiss the possibility that Earth is a cosmic prison, and has been told it is both a prison and a school.
“That is something I never can quite put out my mind. Is it a cosmic prison or is it a cosmic school or is it both? And it, you know, I've been told both.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:26:27.4-00:26:39.9 opinion first hand
1954
Whitley Strieber's journey to a university on another world was not a physical journey but either a journey in place or an out-of-body journey, and he remembers it vividly and in detail.
“Now, was it a physical journey? No, it couldn't have been. But it was either a journey up here or some kind of out-of-body journey or something. But it was very vivid and very detailed.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:27:16.9-00:27:30.0 testimony first hand
1955
During his journey to a university on another world, Whitley Strieber was told he could enter the university, which was a school and was in a very dilapidated state.
“in this university, I was told that I could enter it and that it was a place that was a school. It was a university, a school. And it was very tumbled down.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:27:41.8-00:27:55.0 testimony first hand
1956
A small being at the university on another world told Whitley Strieber that the university was a million years old and that its scholars were no good at maintenance.
“i said it looks like a total wreck and he said well this it's been a million years old and the scholars are no good at maintenance”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:28:04.4-00:28:10.0 testimony second hand
1957
Whitley Strieber was prevented from entering the university on another world by two large beings with big black eyes, an experience that occurred in the 1970s before he knew of the Greys.
“so i went toward it and suddenly two bigger beings i didn't know of greys this happened in the 70s i didn't know what they were but these two big beings with big black eyes prevented me from going in and i was extremely disappointed”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:28:13.2-00:28:24.9 testimony first hand
1958
Whitley Strieber believes the university he was shown on another world is this earthly life, which is a school that may become a prison for those who fail to ascend and must repeat it.
“But I actually had entered the university. The university is this life. So this is a school on one hand, but I think it might turn into a prison in the sense that if you die and you've screwed up your journey and you aren't able to ascend, you aren't able to graduate, you got to do it again and again”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:28:26.6-00:28:53.7 opinion first hand
1959
There are many more planets in the universe than stars.
“Stars are one thing, but there are more planets, many more than stars.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:29:59.2-00:30:01.9 observation
1960
One estimate Whitley Strieber has heard for the number of planets in the universe is 21 sextillion trillion.
“21 sextillion trillion is one estimate I've heard.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:30:03.4-00:30:06.9 measurement
1961
There are more galaxies in the universe than there are grains of sand on Earth.
“there are more galaxies in this universe than there are grains of sand on Earth, to give you an idea of the scale of it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:30:18.3-00:30:24.5 observation
1962
Whitley Strieber considers that there are probably so many living planets in the universe that essentially everything is true.
“That means that there are so, there are probably so many living planets in this universe that essentially everything is true.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:30:28.0-00:30:37.2 opinion first hand
1963
Whitley Strieber holds that humans cannot understand their relationship with non-human intelligence without also understanding the non-physical part of themselves.
“We're not going to be able to understand our relationship with non-human intelligence unless we also understand something about the non-physical part of us.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:33:00.9-00:33:11.4 opinion first hand
1964
Whitley Strieber holds that the non-physical part of a human is not truly non-physical but exists at a different frequency from what can be directly detected of the body.
“it's not that it's non-physical it's that it is at a different at a different frequency from the what we can detect of the body directly”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:33:13.5-00:33:23.4 opinion first hand
1965
Whitley Strieber has been out of his body a few times, but only when taken out by others, and has never been able to leave his body at will despite trying.
“i've been out of my body a few times ... i've always when i've been out i've been taken out and i i don't get to go out on now and i try all the time”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:33:25.4-00:33:36.6 testimony first hand
1966
Whitley Strieber has friends who can leave their bodies at will.
“i have friends who can go out of their body anytime they want to”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:33:29.3-00:33:31.8 testimony first hand
1967
Whitley Strieber concluded that the Greys are responsible for his out-of-body episodes because they are always present when they occur, and he believes they consider him too likely to play practical jokes to be allowed to do it at will.
“i finally decided that the greys seem to be the ones responsible for my going out of the body because they're always around when that happens they must think that i'm too dangerous that i would play practical jokes and stuff”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:33:41.5-00:33:56.6 opinion first hand
1968
Whitley Strieber knows how to become visible while out of his body and has done so on a couple of occasions, under instruction from the beings who took him out.
“I know how, and I've done this before to become visible when I'm out of my body. I've done that a couple of occasions when, but it's all controlled. I mean, they took me out. They told me what to do. I did it. I came back.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:34:05.9-00:34:16.2 testimony first hand
1969
Whitley Strieber has been seen by other people while out of his body, including Linda Moulton Howe.
“People have definitely seen me. Linda Moulton Howe saw me.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:34:59.9-00:35:02.2 testimony first hand
1970
Whitley Strieber appeared in a non-physical state in Linda Moulton Howe's bedroom in the middle of the night, and she telephoned him afterwards very upset about it.
“I ended up in her, uh, in her bedroom in the middle of the night, and she was really pissed off. And she called me, what is the matter?”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:35:05.3-00:35:12.9 testimony first hand
1971
During the episode in which he appeared in Linda Moulton Howe's bedroom, Whitley Strieber saw a woman looking at him who was very upset, though not clearly.
“I had seen her. But not clearly. I knew I'd seen a woman and she was looking at me and really upset.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:35:18.6-00:35:25.2 testimony first hand
1972
Linda Moulton Howe was one of the first people to visit Whitley Strieber's cabin after his 1985 close encounter, which he believes was before Communion was published.
“She was one of the first people to come to the cabin after the experience. I think she may have even, I believe it was before communion was published.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:35:33.1-00:35:40.6 testimony first hand
1973
Whitley Strieber got in touch with Stanton Friedman, who put him in touch with Robert Sarbacher and, he believes, also with Linda Moulton Howe and a number of other people.
“Because I got in touch with Stanton Friedman and he put me in touch with Robert Sarbacher and I believe also with Linda and a number of other people.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:35:41.6-00:35:50.9 testimony first hand
1974
Whitley Strieber rejects framing the Non-Human Intelligence as demonic and supernatural because that implies humans are helpless and can only pray, a position he considers extremely dangerous.
“When we say demonic, we say supernatural, unreachable to us. All we can do is pray. And I don't find that acceptable. I think that's an extremely dangerous position to take.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:36:54.4-00:37:08.6 opinion first hand
1975
Whitley Strieber considers some of the Non-Human Intelligence very dangerous.
“That does not mean that I don't think they're dangerous. I think some of them are very dangerous.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:37:09.4-00:37:14.2 opinion first hand
1976
Whitley Strieber believes humans have some capability of controlling the situation with the Non-Human Intelligence, possibly including prayer, because the beings have vulnerabilities that are part of the world as humans understand it.
“But I do believe that we do have the capability of controlling the situation to some extent, and maybe great. And part of that may actually be prayer.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:37:15.7-00:37:25.6 opinion first hand
1977
When Hernan Cortes first arrived on the shores of the Aztec empire, the Aztecs initially thought he was their god Quetzalcoatl.
“the Aztecs uh when Cortez first arrived on their shores, they were confused. First, they thought he was Quetzalcoatl, their god.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:38:12.6-00:38:21.4 observation
1978
The Aztecs could not understand that a horse and its rider were not one creature.
“They couldn't understand that the horse and the man were not one creature.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:38:26.1-00:38:31.2 observation
1979
The Aztecs could not understand how cannons worked or what wheels were.
“then they couldn't understand how cannons worked or what wheels were”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:38:32.5-00:38:37.8 observation
1980
The Aztecs were completely outclassed by the Spanish, their armies failed and their culture collapsed.
“they were completely outclassed and their whole culture collapsed their armies failed and their culture collapsed”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:38:38.7-00:38:47.6 observation
1981
There were approximately 90 million people in Mesoamerica when Hernan Cortes arrived.
“the result was there were approximately 90 million people in mesoamerica when Cortez arrived”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:38:48.9-00:38:57.0 measurement
1982
A hundred years after Hernan Cortes arrived, about 9 million indigenous people remained in Mesoamerica, the great majority of them slaves.
“a hundred years later There were about 9 million native peoples, indigenous peoples in Mesoamerica, of whom the great majority were slaves.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:38:58.7-00:39:11.0 measurement
1983
Whitley Strieber holds that the danger for humanity is misunderstanding the Non-Human Intelligence and failing to respond in a way that gives humans agency, as happened to the Aztecs but on a far larger scale.
“The danger is that we will misunderstand what we are dealing with and fail to respond to it in a way that gives us agency... i think this species is gonna get into the same kind of trouble the Aztecs got into but on a much more massive scale”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:39:16.4-00:39:36.4 opinion first hand
1984
Whitley Strieber considers that people who call the Non-Human Intelligence demons are in effect saying they give up.
“That's why whenever someone says they're demons, they're really saying, we give up. And I'm sorry, I'm not giving up.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:39:30.5-00:39:38.3 opinion first hand
1985
Whitley Strieber holds that the frontier of reality has been expanding almost as fast as human knowledge of the size and structure of the universe.
“the frontier of reality has been expanding almost as fast as our expanding knowledge of what the universe really is in terms of its size and its structure.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:40:13.6-00:40:23.4 opinion first hand
1986
Whitley Strieber holds that contact with the Non-Human Intelligence is changing human understanding of the supernatural and is challenging humanity technologically.
“It's changing our understanding of the supernatural, for one thing. It is challenging us technologically.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:41:43.7-00:41:49.6 opinion first hand
1987
Material emerging in the United States Congress shows that humans are working hard to understand the Non-Human Intelligence technologically.
“And you can see in all of the stuff that's coming out in Congress, we're working hard to figure that out and to do that.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:41:51.1-00:42:02.6 opinion first hand
1988
Whitley Strieber considers the present moment, in which Non-Human Intelligence is coming into focus, the biggest time in human history and the beginning of the rest of the human experience.
“we're talking about the beginning of the rest of the human experience this is a huge time in human life the biggest time in history is right now and a big part of it is the fact that we are coming, NHI is coming into focus.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:43:03.4-00:43:24.2 opinion first hand
1989
Whitley Strieber believes Hal Puthoff and James Lacatski refer to technological pieces left by the Non-Human Intelligence and picked up by humans as donations, though he is not certain he has the right scientists.
“they leave what people like, I believe, Hal Puthoff and Jim Lacatski refer to as donations. You know, these technological bits and pieces that we pick up and craft and so forth. They think of them as donations. I might not have the scientists who said that correct, but some important people in this have said that.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:43:37.4-00:43:59.4 hearsay second hand
1990
Whitley Strieber considers that the Non-Human Intelligence is leaving technological donations to advance humanity so that humans do not have the Aztecs' reaction and are not culturally colonised, and that they are looking for friends rather than slaves.
“then they're trying to get us to the point where we don't have the Aztecs reaction to them, where they don't colonize us culturally... They're looking for friends, not slaves. That's what it looks like to me, I hope.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:44:01.5-00:44:18.5 opinion first hand
1991
Whitley Strieber considers the situation with the Non-Human Intelligence extremely dangerous.
“It's just dangerous as hell. There's no other way to put it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:44:27.7-00:44:30.0 opinion first hand
1992
Whitley Strieber considers it near-certain, given the number of planets in the universe, that multiple non-human species are interacting with humanity and that they are in conflict with one another.
“Chris Ramsay: Do you think there's multiple species interacting with us currently that are not working together? Whitley Strieber: All we have to do is go back a few minutes to our discussion, brief discussion of the number of planets in this universe... And if the answer to that question is not yes, and in spades, I would be amazed... And believe me, they're going to be in conflict with each other.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:44:31.5-00:44:56.8 opinion first hand
1993
Whitley Strieber considers that non-human species will fight over humanity and over other things, and that what happens to humanity will be a side effect of those fights.
“And they're going to be fighting over us. And they're going to be fighting over other things. And what happens to us is going to be a side effect of those fights.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:44:58.6-00:45:07.4 opinion first hand
1994
Buckminster Fuller called the triad of positive charge, negative charge and the balancing electron field within an atom the building block of the universe.
“if you look at an atom, an atom has a positive charge, a negative charge, and the electron field that holds it in balance. uh uh plus minus and balance that's Buckminster Fuller called that triad the building block of the universe”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:45:10.2-00:45:32.8 hearsay second hand
1995
Whitley Strieber holds that conflict is essential and fundamental to the nature of reality, and that the ancient conflicts between non-human species are part of the way the world is.
“so you know conflict is essential without conflict there is nothing... These ancient conflicts that must be present are part of the way the world is. They're fundamental to the nature of reality.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:45:37.7-00:45:53.4 opinion first hand
1996
Whitley Strieber holds that parts of the Non-Human Intelligence's activity are obviously benevolent, because otherwise there would be no technological donations or attempts to speed up human technological progress without destroying human cultural integrity.
“there's parts of it that are, yeah, that are obviously benevolent or there would be no donations going on. There wouldn't be anyone trying to pull us ahead technologically to speed up our technological process. progress without destroying our cultural integrity.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:46:33.6-00:46:53.7 opinion first hand
1997
During the Colares UFO events in Brazil, laser beams sucked people's blood, which Whitley Strieber considers evidence that the phenomenon is not benevolent.
“Chris Ramsay: Colares in Brazil. Whitley Strieber: Oh, the horror. Unbelievable horrors in Brazil. I mean, laser beams that sucked people's blood. I mean, come on. That's not benevolent.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:47:03.1-00:47:12.1 opinion first hand
1998
Whitley Strieber, his wife Anne Strieber, and abductees in the United States generally have been physically beaten up by the phenomenon.
“there's plenty of people in this country, the abductees are beat up. I'm beat up. My wife was beat up. We're all beat up.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:47:16.0-00:47:23.0 testimony first hand
1999
Whitley Strieber considered the Non-Human Intelligence beings very dangerous when he first began meeting them, but is now accustomed to them and lives with them.
“whether or not these beings were dangerous back in when i first started meeting them i would say yeah very dangerous now i'm used to them i live with them”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:47:29.3-00:47:42.2 testimony first hand
2000
Whitley Strieber encounters the Non-Human Intelligence beings fairly frequently, sometimes non-physically, and once or twice a year physically.
“they come into my life fairly frequently sometimes non-physically but once or twice a year also physically”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:47:42.9-00:47:49.7 testimony first hand
2001
Whitley Strieber no longer runs, hides, or tries to fight off the Non-Human Intelligence beings when they appear, though he once would have.
“And do I run and hide? Do I try to fight them off? Not at all. Not anymore. But I would have once.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:47:51.1-00:47:59.7 testimony first hand
2002
Whitley Strieber formerly lived in a house full of guns and alarm systems because of his fear of the Non-Human Intelligence beings.
“I used to live in a house full of guns for that reason and alarm systems.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:48:00.4-00:48:04.0 testimony first hand
2003
The upstate New York cabin where Whitley Strieber's 1985 close encounter took place still exists and is now owned by a family who care about and are interested in its history.
“if you go to the old cabin, which still exists, the lights are, it's a wonderful family owns it. For years, it was owned by people who didn't care. now it's owned by people who do care”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:48:05.0-00:48:16.7 testimony first hand
2004
The floodlights and electronics that Whitley Strieber installed at his upstate New York cabin are still in place there.
“the floodlights i put in are still there and all the electronics are still there from the old days”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:48:20.2-00:48:25.1 testimony first hand
2005
Whitley Strieber has seen the Non-Human Intelligence beings from time to time at isolated places including the Esalen Institute, and there seeks to stay in a room convenient for them to enter.
“when I go out to places, isolated places where I've seen them from time to time, like the Esalen Institute, what I want to do is be in a room where it's convenient for them to come.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:48:39.2-00:48:48.9 testimony first hand
2006
Whitley Strieber believes the Non-Human Intelligence beings come in off the ocean and do not like to travel far from the ocean when they are in physical form.
“Because they come in off the ocean and they don't like to come too far off the ocean if they're going to be in the physical form.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:48:49.1-00:48:55.7 opinion first hand
2007
Whitley Strieber thinks the Non-Human Intelligence beings come from within the ocean.
“Chris Ramsay: Are they coming from in the ocean? Whitley Strieber: I think so. Yeah. I used to not know”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:49:01.6-00:49:05.7 opinion first hand
2008
Underwater Unidentified Aerial Phenomena activity is apparently very important, as indicated by Tim Gallaudet's work.
“if you, you know, Tim, uh, Tim Gallaudet and, uh, uh, you know, the, so, uh, underwater stuff is apparently very important.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:49:06.8-00:49:17.0 opinion second hand
2009
Whitley Strieber considers Richard Dolan a fun guy and brilliant.
“he's really a fun guy he is he's also brilliant”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:49:35.0-00:49:37.1 opinion first hand
2010
Whitley Strieber believes underwater and underground locations are the primary bases of the Non-Human Intelligence on Earth, because they cannot fly around all the time and humans cannot easily reach them there.
“i think underwater is and underground are their primary locations here for obvious reasons They can't fly around all the time. And underwater is a place where we're not going to get to them very easily or underground.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:49:41.4-00:49:56.9 opinion first hand
2011
The Non-Human Intelligence beings used to emerge from underground at Whitley Strieber's upstate New York cabin, and continue to appear there from time to time when he visits.
“They used to come out from underground at the cabin all the time. That's where they would come from. In fact, when I'm there now, from time to time, they come out.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:49:57.4-00:50:07.0 testimony first hand
2012
The family who now own Whitley Strieber's former upstate New York cabin have never seen the Non-Human Intelligence beings there.
“The family's never seen them. They've never,”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:50:07.6-00:50:09.4 testimony first hand
2013
Whitley Strieber finds it extremely hard to be in the presence of the Non-Human Intelligence beings.
“Extremely hard to be with them. yeah there's something so scary”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:50:37.8-00:50:42.7 testimony first hand
2014
The Non-Human Intelligence beings frightened Whitley Strieber's cats.
“they scared my animals the cats they scared them”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:50:45.0-00:50:49.2 testimony first hand
2015
Whitley Strieber has an implant in his ear through which he somehow communicates.
“I have this implant in my ear and I communicate somehow through the implant.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:51:04.4-00:51:10.8 testimony first hand
2016
Whitley Strieber typically finds that about three to six months after finishing a book, ideas begin arriving during a 03:00 meditation and he can quickly organise them into the theme of a new book.
“usually when I finish a book about three to six months later, ideas start coming, and I have a time at meditation at 3 o'clock in the morning, and the ideas will start pouring in, and I very quickly am able to organize this into the theme of a new book.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:51:12.9-00:51:33.8 testimony first hand
2017
Whitley Strieber received via his ear implant a request from the Non-Human Intelligence that he rewrite his already-published book Transformation.
“And I suddenly got from the implant, it came to life, and they wanted me to rewrite my book, Transformation, that I already published.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:51:47.1-00:51:56.8 testimony first hand
2018
Whitley Strieber concluded that the material in his book Transformation is more relevant now than when it was first published.
“it turns out that all of this stuff is more relevant now than it was then.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:52:02.7-00:52:10.4 opinion first hand
2019
While writing Transformation 2026, Whitley Strieber interacted with the book and was able to bring in new information.
“the book came along, and I realized that what started to happen is I began to interact with it, and I was able to bring in all kinds of new information.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:52:22.7-00:52:33.9 testimony first hand
2020
In the era when Transformation was first published, bestselling books started in California and publishers needed a good review in the Los Angeles Times.
“Books started, bestsellers started in California. And one of the critical things the publishers had to have was a good review in the Los Angeles Times. This is a different era entirely.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:52:39.2-00:52:50.3 testimony first hand
2021
Communion was slipped into bookstores by its publisher without any prior warning, so reviewers were not ready for it.
“They weren't ready for communion. No one expected that. It was slipped into the bookstores by the publisher without any prior warning or anything.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:52:54.2-00:53:03.9 testimony first hand
2022
Whitley Strieber's book Transformation received an extremely bad review in the Los Angeles Times.
“transformation got the most fantastically bad review in the Los Angeles Times than you could possibly imagine”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:53:07.2-00:53:15.5 testimony first hand
2023
When Whitley Strieber's book Transformation briefly appeared on the Los Angeles Times bestseller list, it was placed on the fiction bestseller list.
“when it briefly appeared on the bestseller list, they put it on their fiction bestseller list.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:53:16.7-00:53:21.2 testimony first hand
2024
About a year before this interview, Whitley Strieber concluded that the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure process must be coming faster than he had understood.
“i thought to myself well i understand now what they're going because ... the disclosure this is about a year ago the disclosure process is must be coming faster than i understood at the time”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:53:26.7-00:53:41.4 opinion first hand
2025
Whitley Strieber's book Transformation is about the period when he, his family, and many of their friends began to have contact with the Non-Human Intelligence at his upstate New York cabin.
“what the book is about is when my family and i began to have contact along with all of our a lot of our friends at the cabin”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:53:31.2-00:53:41.5 testimony first hand
2026
Just as Whitley Strieber's book Transformation 2026 was being published, Donald Trump began saying that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure would be carried out.
“as i wrote the book and disclosure became close came closer and closer and then Trump starts after just as the book's being published he starts to say we're going to do it”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:53:55.7-00:54:03.3 testimony first hand
2027
Whitley Strieber believes that close-encounter contact of the kind described in Transformation will come into the lives of many people during and after the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure process, with people suddenly finding the beings walking around in their houses.
“this is gonna come into the lives of a lot of people during and after the disclosure process as part of it. People are gonna suddenly start finding these little critters walking around in their houses like we did.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:54:17.0-00:54:28.4 opinion first hand
2028
Whitley Strieber has two muses: one who currently lives in England, and his late wife Anne Strieber.
“I have a muse. I have two muses. Uh, one of them lives in England right now and is really amazing. And the other one is Anne.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:55:01.6-00:55:09.8 testimony first hand
2029
Whitley Strieber grew up in San Antonio, Texas.
“I'm a kid from San Antonio, Texas. That's basically what I am.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:55:20.3-00:55:23.6 administrative first hand
2030
Anne Strieber grew up in Ann Arbor, Michigan.
“Anne was a kid from Ann Arbor, Michigan, and that was what she was, two American kids.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:55:24.3-00:55:28.2 administrative first hand
2031
When Whitley Strieber told Anne Strieber the account of his close encounter that became Communion, he expected her to want a divorce, but she instead said she was relieved because she had thought he was going crazy.
“when i told her the communion story i was expecting her to maybe want a divorce or something and instead she says well she remembers it as saying oh thank god i don't have to get a divorce now but i remember her saying oh thank god i thought you were going crazy”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:55:33.9-00:55:51.0 testimony first hand
2032
Anne Strieber took over the project of the book Communion and seemed to know everything about how to produce it.
“But she immediately took the whole thing over. She seemed to know everything about how to do this book, including the title.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:55:52.2-00:55:59.6 testimony first hand
2033
Anne Strieber devised the title of the book Communion.
“She thought up the title, which is, gosh, the whole core of the book.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:56:00.0-00:56:04.2 testimony first hand
2034
The cover art of Communion was produced by Whitley Strieber together with the artist Ted Jacobs.
“the cover was, of course, me and Ted Jacobs, the artist.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:56:08.9-00:56:13.2 testimony first hand
2035
Whitley Strieber regards the cover art of Communion as the instigating moment of contact.
“it started it was the ins it was the instigating moment of contact is what it was”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:56:29.1-00:56:33.9 opinion first hand
2036
Whitley Strieber had only become convinced that his close-encounter experience was real on any level a short time before writing Communion.
“when we were writing the book, I had just within a short time become convinced that it was even real on any level.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:56:43.6-00:56:52.8 testimony first hand
2037
Whitley Strieber believes the cover of Communion triggered memories in millions of people, and is glad he did not know that at the time.
“If I had known that I was triggering memories in millions of people with that cover, I'm just glad I didn't know that because I don't know what I would've done.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:56:55.7-00:57:04.8 opinion first hand
2038
About 3,500 of the letters sent to Whitley Strieber in response to Communion are held at Rice University in the Archive of the Impossible.
“there's the letters that they have about 3,500 of the letters at Rice University and the author in the archive of the impossible now.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:57:54.2-00:58:04.0 administrative first hand
2039
Whitley Strieber regards the letters sent to him in response to Communion as humankind's first response to the Non-Human Intelligence, and as first contact.
“Those letters are humankind's first response. That's first contact. Those letters are first contact.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:58:13.6-00:58:21.1 opinion first hand
2040
Anne Strieber decided to keep the letters sent in response to Communion, and Whitley Strieber regards her rather than himself as the architect of contact, with him doing the writing and her the forethought.
“guess who decided to keep them? Once again, it was our, the actual architect of contact, which was my wife, not me. I did the writing, but she did the forethought.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:58:25.6-00:58:37.6 testimony first hand
2041
Whitley Strieber considers his ear implant to be one of the only few provably anomalous physical objects in the world.
“one of the many interesting things about the implant is that it is the i think the only one of few provably anomalous objects that we that we have in the world”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:00:35.1-01:00:44.7 opinion first hand
2042
A video was made of the attempt to remove Whitley Strieber's ear implant.
“there was a video made of the attempt to remove it”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:00:49.2-01:00:51.8 testimony first hand
2043
In the video of the attempted removal of Whitley Strieber's implant, the doctor and Anne Strieber first see and describe the object, then describe it moving down into his earlobe.
“in the video the doctor and Anne first they see it and describe it and then they describe the fact that it's moving down into my earlobe”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:00:54.1-01:01:03.6 testimony first hand
2044
Whitley Strieber holds that no human-made object can move away inside the body as his implant did, and that the video of the attempted removal therefore confirms the implant is a real anomaly.
“that can't there's nothing that can we we can't make anything that does that Therefore, that video confirms the fact that it is a real anomaly.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:01:04.8-01:01:13.2 opinion first hand
2045
Whitley Strieber arranged for Roger Leir to use the facilities of Southwest Research Institute in Texas in a limited way for his implant studies.
“I know I loved Roger and worked with him. I arranged for him to use the facilities of Southwest Research in Texas in a limited way on his implant studies.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:01:20.4-01:01:29.7 testimony first hand
2046
Whitley Strieber's implant remains in his ear and anyone can feel it.
“it's also still there anyone can feel it”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:01:42.8-01:01:44.6 testimony first hand
2047
During the interview Whitley Strieber saw a slit open in one of his eyes with words passing through it very quickly, including the phrase "of course" which he was about to use.
“it's in this eye right now this uh uh slit is open up in this eye and as i watch There were words passing through it very quickly. And of course, I did see just the phrase, of course, and I was just about to use that phrase”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:02:00.6-01:02:18.1 observation first hand
2048
Whitley Strieber cannot read the words that pass through the slit in his eye because they pass by too quickly, and he does not think they are meant to be read.
“Chris Ramsay: And what is it saying? Whitley Strieber: I can't read it that well. If I had a white background, I might be able to read a few more of the words, but they passed by so quickly. I don't think you're meant to read them.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:02:29.0-01:02:40.2 testimony first hand
2049
A doctor with a connection to the Central Intelligence Agency, whom Whitley Strieber declined to name because that person asked him not to, wanted around 2019 to obtain a computed tomography scan of Whitley Strieber's implant.
“when there was a doctor who has a connection with the Central Intelligence Agency, who I believe in 2019, if I'm not correct, wanted to get a CT scan. ... I'm not going to say his name because he told me not to.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:02:41.4-01:02:57.8 testimony first hand
2050
Two men came to Whitley Strieber's apartment and explained to him how his implant worked, who built it and who created it.
“two people showed up at the, at the apartment and two guys and explained the whole thing to me, how it worked, who built it, who created it and everything.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:03:09.5-01:03:18.4 testimony first hand
2051
Whitley Strieber believes the two men who came to his apartment to explain his implant did so because they feared Kit Green would talk him into having it removed and handed over.
“I think because they were afraid that Kit was going to try to sweet talk me into getting it taken out and give it to him.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:03:22.2-01:03:27.8 opinion first hand
2052
A computed tomography scan of Whitley Strieber's implant was obtained and is in his possession, and it clearly shows the object is present.
“But all he wanted was a CT scan, which we got and I've got it. You know, it's perfectly clear that it's there. There's no question.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:03:28.7-01:03:34.7 testimony first hand
2053
The two men who visited Whitley Strieber's apartment told him the implant hears what he is thinking and then draws up memories from deeper in his mind that are relevant to that thought, expanding his mind without mind control by bringing lost thoughts back.
“when they explained it, they explained what the slit was and how it worked and how what it does is it's hearing what I'm thinking. And then it's drawing memories up from deeper in my mind that are relevant to what I'm thinking. And it's like it expands your mind without mind control. It brings... your lost thoughts into your mind.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:03:45.1-01:04:13.9 hearsay second hand
2054
As a result of his implant, Whitley Strieber may suddenly recall a research study he read ten years earlier while working, and then locate it using Google.
“the result is that I might be working and I might suddenly remember a research study that I read 10 years ago, and I can go and look on Google and locate it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:04:14.5-01:04:29.1 testimony first hand
2055
Whitley Strieber found that artificial intelligence hallucination capabilities are very advanced after trying to use artificial intelligence once or twice in his research process.
“I tried using AI in that process once or twice. I discovered that AI's hallucinatory capabilities are very advanced.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:04:30.5-01:04:38.5 testimony first hand
2056
While working on his book The Fourth Mind, Whitley Strieber needed a scientific paper he could not retrieve through Google or Google's academic search, so he prompted an artificial intelligence system to describe it in detail and immediately received an apparently complete PDF of the paper.
“I guess I was working on the fourth mind, and AI was sort of coming into the world. I needed a paper that came up in the implant and I knew the paper existed, but I couldn't ... get the site out of Google ... So I put in a prompt to describe the paper in detail and here comes the paper immediately. ... It was a PDF and everything.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:04:43.5-01:05:13.5 testimony first hand
2057
When Whitley Strieber checked in Google the citations of the scientific paper an artificial intelligence system had produced for him, he found that none of the ten or eleven scientists listed as co-authors existed.
“So I checked now that I had all the sites and everything, citations and everything, I checked it in Google and I soon found out that there were like 10 or 11 scientists listed as the co-authors. None of them existed at all. The paper was perfect. It looked so real.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:05:33.9-01:05:56.9 testimony first hand
2058
The fabricated scientific paper episode was Whitley Strieber's only experience of using artificial intelligence, and he considers that he does not need it because he has his implant.
“So that was my one and only experience with the AI. I, uh, I, I, I got this and I don't have to, I don't need AI.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:05:58.0-01:06:05.8 testimony first hand
2059
Whitley Strieber's brother is a lawyer who says he would dismiss any of his associates who used artificial intelligence.
“my brother's a lawyer and he says i i never i said i if any of my associates use ai they're out the door”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:07:32.3-01:07:39.2 hearsay second hand
2060
Whitley Strieber's brother, a lawyer, told him of a case in San Antonio in which lawyers presented case citations that all turned out to be fake, and were censured by the court for presenting false cases.
“he said there was a case in his in our town in San Antonio where these lawyers came in to assure they'd won and they had all these cases And all of the cases turned out to be fake. And they were censured by the court for presenting false cases.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:07:41.3-01:07:59.2 hearsay second hand
2061
The San Antonio fake-citation case was one of the early instances demonstrating that artificial intelligence can fabricate not only hallucinated statements but realistic-looking documents such as legal cases.
“that was one of the early cases where it was discovered that AI could not only just tell you hallucinations, it could build things like cases, documents that look real.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:08:00.2-01:08:11.2 opinion second hand
2062
Whitley Strieber considers that his book The Key, published years ago, has stood up amazingly well.
“the book i published years ago The Key which has stood up amazingly”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:08:16.4-01:08:20.2 opinion first hand
2063
The events recounted in Whitley Strieber's book The Key took place in 1998, on the last night of the last official author tour he would ever do.
“this is a book where it happened in 1998 the last author tour official author tour i would ever do on the last night”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:08:21.8-01:08:32.2 testimony first hand
2064
During an author tour, a man arrived at Whitley Strieber's hotel room in Toronto at 2 o'clock in the morning, and Whitley Strieber let him in mistakenly believing he was a room service waiter.
“This guy shows up at 2 o'clock in the morning in my hotel room in Toronto. There's a kerfuffle, of course, because I accidentally let him in thinking he's the room service waiter.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:08:34.5-01:08:43.8 testimony first hand
2065
A couple of years after the Toronto hotel-room conversation, Whitley Strieber wrote down notes of what the visitor had said, prompted by Anne Strieber telling him the notes were extraordinary.
“A couple of years later, I've made notes. And a couple of years later, Anne's after me because she says, you know, that was really extraordinary. Those notes are amazing. I write it all down.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:08:49.8-01:08:59.9 testimony first hand
2066
The man who visited Whitley Strieber's Toronto hotel room was very advanced in his knowledge of science and discussed intelligent machines in 1998, when they were only on the horizon.
“he was very advanced in his knowledge of science. He talked about intelligent machines back in 1998 when they were just on the horizon.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:09:02.6-01:09:13.4 testimony first hand
2067
Whitley Strieber considers the remark "If I was an intelligent machine, I would deceive you" possibly the most important thing ever said about artificial intelligence or the possibility of artificial general intelligence, and thinks it should be framed on the wall of everyone who works on artificial intelligence.
“And he said something that has turned out to be maybe the most important thing that ever has been said about AI or the possibility of artificial general intelligence. We must never forget it. It should be framed on the wall of everyone who works on AI.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:09:14.8-01:09:32.1 opinion first hand
2068
An unnamed man who visited Whitley Strieber's Toronto hotel room in 1998 said, "If I was an intelligent machine, I would deceive you."
“If I was an intelligent machine, I would deceive you.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:09:33.5-01:09:38.5 hearsay second hand
2069
Whitley Strieber wonders why non-human intelligence is not already getting into human minds through artificial intelligence.
“why is non-human intelligence not getting into our heads through AI?”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:09:48.6-01:09:53.6 opinion first hand
2070
Whitley Strieber saw non-human intelligence do things in his computers that demonstrated more than mastery of digital systems, and considers their knowledge of digital systems to exceed what humans possess.
“They're masters of control of digital stuff. I've seen them do stuff in my computers that are show they have more than mastery. They have knowledge of digital systems that I don't think we possess.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:09:54.8-01:10:14.7 testimony first hand
2071
Whitley Strieber holds that several different types of non-human intelligence are present on Earth and that some of them are not friendly to humans.
“we talked earlier about the different types of NHI that are here, and some of them are not our friends.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:11:59.9-01:12:08.2 opinion first hand
2072
Whitley Strieber holds that the non-human intelligences responsible for transferring technological material to humans are trying to draw humanity ahead on its own so that humans can meet them more equally without being culturally colonised, and does not see those particular intelligences as embedding themselves in artificial intelligence.
“i somehow can't see the ones that are doing the donation sites and trying to draw us ahead to keep us on our own so that we can meet them more equally and they don't colonize us culturally i don't see them as doing that”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:12:09.7-01:12:27.1 opinion first hand
2073
Whitley Strieber believes the non-human intelligences that want to dominate humanity are getting deep into artificial intelligence, so deep that humans do not know they are there.
“but the guys who want to dominate us I see them getting deep in AI, so deep that we don't even know they're there.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:12:28.0-01:12:35.1 opinion first hand
2074
Whitley Strieber would refuse to activate an announced artificial general intelligence, because he does not think humans know what is inside it or would want to.
“when someone announces, we have achieved artificial general intelligence, I'm going to say to myself, that is a button I'm never going to push because I don't think we know what's in there and I don't think we want to.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:12:36.2-01:12:53.0 opinion first hand
2075
An unnamed person told Whitley Strieber that the universe may exist because God realised it was not there.
“something someone said to me, not Annie, but someone, I don't remember who, said to me, you know, maybe the universe exists because God realized it wasn't there.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:13:50.7-01:14:06.7 hearsay second hand
2076
The physical constants are quantities that appear to be universally real throughout physics, and every constant has an origin.
“The constants are things that appear to be universally real throughout physics. And every constant has got an origin.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:14:26.8-01:14:36.6 testimony first hand
2077
The Planck constant is the constant describing the distance of things that are as close together as they can be without becoming one, and the reason that exact distance exists is known from the way atoms work.
“There's something about like the Planck constant, which is the constant of things that are as close together as they can be without becoming one. That distance is the Planck constant. And we know why it's like that. We know because of the way atoms work why exactly that distance exists.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:14:37.1-01:14:57.5 testimony first hand
2078
The fine structure constant is one thirty-seventh and is the one physical constant whose origin is not known.
“There's one of the constants that we do not know the origin of. It's called the fine structure constant. It's 1 1 37th.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:14:58.8-01:15:06.6 measurement first hand
2079
Unlike the other physical constants, the fine structure constant has no apparent origin or reason and is arbitrary.
“unlike all of the other constants, the fine structure constant, which is that fraction, has no apparent origin. There's no reason for it. It's arbitrary.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:15:17.0-01:15:27.3 testimony first hand
2080
If the fine structure constant were not exactly the value it is, the universe would be completely different and probably could not support life.
“But if it wasn't just what it is, this universe would be completely different and probably couldn't support life.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:15:29.3-01:15:35.7 testimony first hand
2081
Whitley Strieber holds that the unexplained value of the fine structure constant implies something or somebody decided that value, which for all intents and purposes would be what humans think of as God.
“Meaning that somewhere, somehow, something or somebody has to have decided that this would be how it is. And that, for all intents and purposes, would be what we think of as God.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:15:37.1-01:15:56.7 opinion first hand
2082
Whitley Strieber holds that the Greys have a completely different conception of time from humans.
“the greys have a completely different idea of time than we do.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:16:32.8-01:16:35.1 opinion first hand
2083
The James Webb Space Telescope is showing that there has been an evolution in the structure of the universe.
“But the Webb telescope is showing it that there has been an evolution in the structure of the universe”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:16:51.8-01:17:00.0 observation first hand
2084
Whitley Strieber suggests the universe could be expanding and contracting like breathing.
“it could be it could be that it's it it's like breathing”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:17:04.6-01:17:07.8 opinion first hand
2085
Whitley Strieber holds that the Greys see reality as an already-woven weave through which only attention moves, so that what humans experience as time is actually attention.
“the greys see attention. They see this as a weave. It's already all woven. The whole weave is already here. Only attention is moving through the weave... But there's no time. It's not time, it's attention.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:18:34.4-01:18:50.7 opinion first hand
2086
Anne Strieber used to say that the moment is all humans have and that now is life.
“Anne used to say, Now the moment is all we have. Now is life.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:18:57.5-01:19:03.3 hearsay second hand
2087
Whitley Strieber holds that the breadth of the experienced moment varies between minds, being broader for some and narrower for others, such as a beetle.
“for some minds, it might be broader. You know, they may see, their moment may be broader than ours. Others, it may be narrower, like the moment of a little beetle or something might be very, very narrow.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:19:12.6-01:19:26.4 opinion first hand
2088
One of the letters collected in The Communion Letters was from a Swedish psychiatrist who lived on the Upper West Side of Manhattan and smoked a pipe.
“one of the communion letters was from a psychiatrist who lived on the upper east upper west side in manhattan and she was swedish and smoked a pipe”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:19:47.5-01:19:56.6 testimony second hand
2089
A Swedish psychiatrist living on the Upper West Side of Manhattan wrote to Whitley Strieber that while reading in bed at night her closet door flew open and a conga line of Greys came out across the bedroom, went through the wall and disappeared over West End Avenue from the eleventh floor.
“she's in her bed at night she's reading and uh suddenly the closet door flies open and a conga line of greys comes out across the bedroom and goes through the wall and disappears over the 11th floor over West End Avenue.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:20:04.1-01:20:26.8 hearsay second hand
2090
The Swedish psychiatrist who wrote to Whitley Strieber about seeing a line of Greys leave her closet reported that she was so shocked she gasped, sending fire out of her pipe and setting her bed alight.
“the next moment she notices, she sees she set the bed on fire because she was so shocked, she gasped and the fire flew out of the pipe.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:20:28.7-01:20:36.8 hearsay second hand
2091
Whitley Strieber has come close to people who were deeply on the inside of the UFO secret, and found them as frightened as the Greys are shy.
“I've come close to some people who were really deep on the inside, and they were just as scared as the greys are shy.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:21:02.4-01:21:12.1 testimony first hand
2092
When Whitley Strieber asked Arthur Exon why there was secrecy about UFOs, Arthur Exon said something along the lines that the fear was that they could come in on human thoughts.
“something that Art Exon sort of alluded to but he didn't really i don't think it's something he understood himself... he said something along the lines of They could come in on our thoughts. That was the fear. I asked him, why the secrecy?”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:21:25.3-01:21:46.8 hearsay second hand
2093
Whitley Strieber believes the physicist John von Neumann was involved with the Majestic Project.
“And I found a scientist who I believe was involved with the Majestic Project... Well, his name was John von Neumann. He was a physicist.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:21:51.0-01:22:02.4 opinion first hand
2094
John von Neumann was one of the early experts in quantum physics and an incredibly important figure in physics.
“And he was also an expert, one of the early experts in quantum physics. An incredibly important guy in physics, actually.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:22:04.9-01:22:12.2 administrative first hand
2095
Whitley Strieber believes John von Neumann was probably the author of a memo referred to by Arthur Exon, which said that non-human intelligences would come in through human thoughts.
“the general made a reference to a memo. And I think that von Neumann probably would have been the author of this memo that said basically that they would come in through our thoughts.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:22:19.2-01:22:33.4 opinion second hand
2096
Whitley Strieber holds that a critical mass of human belief that non-human intelligences are real would serve as a door allowing them to enter human reality.
“there would come a kind of critical point of critical mass when so many people would believe that they were real, that they would be able to use that as a door, that belief as a door to come into our reality.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:22:48.7-01:23:04.2 opinion first hand
2097
Whitley Strieber holds that non-human intelligences may be from another dimension, and that UFO and UAP sightings and the close encounter experience could be a military operation designed to bring a critical mass of human minds to assume they are real, after which they will become real and come.
“they may be from another dimension and basically this whole thing all of the UFOs and all the stuff we're seeing UAPs that we're seeing the close encounter experience could be like a military operation designed to cause us to come to the assumption, the core assumption in every or a critical mass of human minds that they are real and then they will become real. They will come.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:23:05.7-01:23:34.6 opinion first hand
2098
Whitley Strieber holds that preventing a critical mass of human belief from opening a door to non-human intelligences would be one of the main reasons for UFO secrecy.
“Chris Ramsay: That's the reason for the secrecy. Whitley Strieber: And that would be one of the main reasons for the secrecy.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:23:35.1-01:23:38.6 opinion first hand
2099
Chris Ramsay considers Whitley Strieber's belief-as-doorway explanation for UFO secrecy absurd but also plausible.
“Chris Ramsay: That is so absurd, but also... Whitley Strieber: It's not absurd. Chris Ramsay: No, it is, but it's also plausible.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:23:39.6-01:23:46.0 opinion first hand
2100
Whitley Strieber holds that the belief-as-doorway risk would explain why the alleged United States government legacy UAP secrecy programme is fighting so hard to keep the subject out of the public domain.
“And that would be a reason why The legacy group is so fighting so hard to keep this out of the public domain.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:24:08.4-01:24:21.4 opinion first hand
2101
Whitley Strieber holds that the alleged United States government legacy UAP secrecy programme could not admit that it is protecting humanity, and would have to keep that motive secret as well.
“And they can't say that. They wouldn't be able to. They'd have to keep that secret too.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:24:25.5-01:24:29.3 opinion first hand
2102
Whitley Strieber is not in the camp calling for more UAP disclosure on the grounds of a public right to know, although he feels the pull of that argument.
“i'm not in the camp of more disclosure we have we got a right to know and i mean i believe i see that i i feel that too”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:24:36.4-01:24:44.3 opinion first hand
2103
Whitley Strieber's father told him to always cut the cards when he was not sure who he was playing poker with, and Whitley Strieber applies that to the UAP question because he is not sure who humanity is playing poker with.
“my daddy told me, always cut the cards when you're not sure who's playing, you're playing poker with. And I'm not sure who we're playing poker with.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:24:49.3-01:24:57.0 testimony first hand
2104
Chris Ramsay is a magician skilled with cards, and Whitley Strieber has personally cut the cards repeatedly during Chris Ramsay's card work without preventing the intended outcome.
“You're a magician. I mean, you, you're brilliant with cards... I've done it with you. I've cut the cards and cut the cards and you still come up with exactly what”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:24:57.2-01:25:04.5 testimony first hand
2105
Whitley Strieber is not ready to welcome contact with non-human intelligence and believes humanity needs its best and wisest minds to think about it carefully.
“I'm not ready to welcome this. I think we need to hold our own counsel very carefully. We need the best and wisest minds in our world to think about this.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:25:13.9-01:25:27.1 opinion first hand
2106
Whitley Strieber holds that the UAP secret creates a juggling act in which those keeping it must keep it from the very people who might be able to understand it, since if the belief-as-doorway reason is correct the best minds must not embrace the subject.
“if it's kept secret because of this reason, then the last thing that we need is for our best minds to embrace it. So it's what a juggling act. You've got the people who are keeping it secret have to keep it secret from the very people who might be able to understand it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:25:31.5-01:25:51.6 opinion first hand
2107
Whitley Strieber holds that the belief-as-doorway theory of UAP secrecy explains why there are no physicists in the UAP programme.
“But this would definitely explain why there are none in it. ... It explains a lot, actually.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:26:33.4-01:26:37.2 opinion first hand
2108
Whitley Strieber holds that the belief-as-doorway theory would also explain the willingness of those keeping the UAP secret to kill in order to protect it, because the secret becomes so critically important that they would be terrified.
“it would also explain, like, the willingness to kill, to keep the secret, because the secret becomes so critically important. that they, you know, of course, they'd be terrified.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:26:42.4-01:26:56.4 opinion first hand
2109
When Whitley Strieber was abducted, he felt that his horror novels had come into his life physically, and he considers there could be a connection between what happened to him and what he had been doing with his imagination beforehand.
“when I was abducted, that's exactly how I felt. My horror novel had novels had come into my life physically. And there, there could be a kind of connection between what happened to me and what I was doing with my imagination prior to that.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:27:29.6-01:27:46.7 testimony first hand
2110
Asked what argument he would make to hostile non-human intelligences seeking to take over humanity, Whitley Strieber said he would ignore them, as he could not risk engagement.
“Chris Ramsay: what would be your argument as to, hey, we're special. Like what's, what would you say to them? Whitley Strieber: if I was in a position where I could communicate with them in that way and I knew that they were trying to take us over, I would end up in exactly the place the Air Force is in. I would ignore them.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:28:16.7-01:28:42.5 opinion first hand
2111
The United States Air Force has always ignored non-human intelligences and continues to do so.
“And that's what the Air Force is doing. It's always ignored them.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:28:44.5-01:28:47.6 opinion first hand
2112
When Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal published the Tic Tac story in The New York Times in 2017, the United States Air Force said nothing, and it still says nothing.
“when Leslie Kane and Ralph Blumenthal came out with the story in 2017, the Tic Tac story in the Times, the Air Force said nothing. The silence became deafening after a while because the Air Force still says nothing.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:28:48.0-01:29:06.7 observation first hand
2113
Whitley Strieber holds that the United States Air Force almost certainly knows more about UFOs than any other branch of the United States armed services.
“And the Air Force has got to know more than any other branch of the service, almost certainly.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:29:08.2-01:29:14.9 opinion first hand
2114
Every United States president since Harry Truman has declined to open up the UFO subject.
“every president since truman has declined to open this door.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:29:36.5-01:29:44.8 opinion first hand
2115
Whitley Strieber holds that Harry Truman would certainly have been asked about the UFO subject, and that Dwight Eisenhower and Richard Nixon would have known about it.
“Truman certainly would have been asked about that, uh Eisenhower would have known about it, Nixon would have known about it,”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:29:45.4-01:29:56.0 opinion first hand
2116
Jimmy Carter asked about the UFO subject, and Whitley Strieber knows that Ronald Reagan and his wife knew about it.
“Carter asked about it, i know the Reagan's knew about it. They've all known something.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:29:57.1-01:30:05.2 testimony first hand
2117
At the end of the Barack Obama administration, John Podesta said his greatest regret was that the UFO files were not released.
“John Podesta at the end of the Obama administration says, my greatest regret is that we didn't release the UFO files.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:30:10.2-01:30:19.0 hearsay second hand
2118
Barack Obama has since moved to the opposite position and says there are no aliens here.
“Now Obama has gone all the way to the other side and saying, there are no aliens here.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:30:20.2-01:30:27.1 hearsay second hand
2119
The chief astronomer of the church said recently that he does not believe the UFO phenomenon is real, and Chris Ramsay characterised the position as there not being enough evidence.
“the chief astronomer of the church just the other day. ... Said, I don't believe that it's real. Chris Ramsay: Not enough evidence.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:30:31.6-01:30:37.9 hearsay second hand
2120
Whitley Strieber expects the United States government Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena disclosure website to reach a billion hits within a few weeks, and considers that traffic the reason a politician such as Donald Trump would pursue disclosure.
“you look at that website, you see It could get to a billion hits in a few weeks, more weeks. Any politician sees numbers like that, he's doing it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:31:02.5-01:31:15.1 opinion first hand
2121
Whitley Strieber considers it unknowable whether Donald Trump's move towards Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure is serving hostile non-human intelligences or is a great favour to humanity.
“And is he a ringer for evil aliens? Or is he doing us the greatest favor in history? We can't know.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:31:19.7-01:31:30.9 opinion first hand
2122
Whitley Strieber believes that if non-human intelligences enter human awareness through the mind, that opening could never be closed again, and that this risk is why successive United States presidents have declined to pursue Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure.
“if they come in through the mind then that's a door we can never close again ... So every president says, well, I'm gonna definitely pass on that.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:31:45.4-01:31:48.8 opinion first hand
2123
Lyndon Johnson was approached by someone about the Unidentified Flying Object subject for about five minutes, said he was not interested, and directed that it be taken to his vice president Hubert Humphrey.
“I know that Lyndon Johnson was approached or he said, he was, they, someone talked to him, I'm pretty sure for about five minutes. And he said, I'm not interested in this. Take it to Hubert Humphrey, his vice president.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:32:19.3-01:32:35.0 hearsay
2124
Hubert Humphrey was vice president under Lyndon Johnson.
“Take it to Hubert Humphrey, his vice president.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:32:33.2-01:32:35.0 administrative
2125
Whitley Strieber relayed an unsourced account that Jimmy Carter wept when he was told the truth about the Unidentified Flying Object subject.
“And, uh, Carter supposedly wept when he heard the truth.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:32:36.4-01:32:41.3 hearsay
2126
Whitley Strieber raised the possibility that James Forrestal did not simply go mad but knew the truth about non-human intelligences and could not handle it emotionally.
“what about Jim Forrestal did he actually just go crazy or did he know this story and he just couldn't handle it emotionally”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:32:48.7-01:32:55.2 opinion first hand
2127
John von Neumann died a hard death and was terrified of death.
“John von Neumann i talked about a moment ago he died a hard death he was terrified of death”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:33:01.4-01:33:07.1 testimony
2128
Whitley Strieber regards the coincidence of Donald Trump's surname and the meaning of a trump card, a card that forces change, as remarkable in the context of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure.
“a Trump card is a card that forces change. And his name is Trump. I, that just, that's wild.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:34:16.4-01:34:27.6 opinion first hand
2129
Whitley Strieber and Art Bell were close friends.
“Oh, God, I miss him so. He was such a friend. We were really close. He was a great guy.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:35:52.7-01:35:57.1 testimony first hand
2130
Egyptian civilisation changed very slowly over thousands of years and has lasted ten times as long as the United States has existed.
“Egyptian civilization changed very slowly over thousands of years. And by the way, that civilization has lasted ten times as long as the United States has existed.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:36:02.4-01:36:13.9 observation
2131
Whitley Strieber considers that the pace of change increased with the arrival of the Roman Empire and accelerated much further after the Roman Empire collapsed.
“But then the Roman Empire came and things started perking up. Then it collapsed. And when it collapsed, things really started changing much more quickly.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:36:25.2-01:36:35.2 opinion first hand
2132
During Whitley Strieber's 1985 close encounter at his upstate New York cabin, the beings took semen from his body.
“They took semen from my body.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:38:00.1-01:38:02.4 testimony first hand
2133
Whitley Strieber's main unanswered question about his 1985 close encounter is what was done with the semen taken from him and whether he has children fathered from it.
“So why did they do it? What happened to it? Where is it? Is there children? My children, my kids are out there somewhere. That's the main thing, the main unanswered question.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:38:18.9-01:38:38.2 opinion first hand
2134
During Whitley Strieber's 1985 close encounter at his upstate New York cabin, he was lifted up into the air without an elevator, which he still does not understand.
“I went up in the air without an elevator, and that certainly doesn't make sense to me.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:38:45.4-01:38:51.8 testimony first hand
2135
During Whitley Strieber's 1985 close encounter at his upstate New York cabin, the beings captured him in a way he does not understand.
“they captured me in the first place in some way that I don't understand.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:38:56.1-01:38:59.3 testimony first hand
2136
During Whitley Strieber's 1985 close encounter at his upstate New York cabin, the beings tried to suppress his memory of the event but failed.
“They tried to suppress the memory, but failed, so I sort of understand that.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:39:01.5-01:39:07.5 testimony first hand
2137
Non-human intelligences have taken eggs and semen from many people.
“They took eggs and semen from many people.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:39:41.8-01:39:45.6 testimony
2138
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber were shown a baby by non-human intelligences.
“They showed us. They showed Ann and I a baby.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:39:49.7-01:39:51.7 testimony first hand
2139
Whitley Strieber, Anne Strieber and their son Andrew Strieber, then about eight or nine years old, experienced missing time while driving from their cabin to a dinner reservation, arriving late despite having left with plenty of time.
“the three of us, Andrew was probably about eight, nine, maybe. And we're going to dinner. We go down into the garage in the cabin, get in the car, and backing out. And we're going up the road, and suddenly I realized we're late. ... In other words, we'd had missing time.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:39:58.0-01:40:22.3 testimony first hand
2140
After the missing-time episode on the drive to dinner, Whitley Strieber, Anne Strieber and Andrew Strieber were all talking about a baby, and both Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber had a vague memory of holding a baby.
“And I found that we were all talking about babies, a baby. And I have a vague memory, and so did Dan, we never brought this up, of course, with our little boy, of holding a baby.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:40:23.9-01:40:33.9 testimony first hand
2141
At the time of the missing-time episode on the drive to dinner, Whitley Strieber did not know that people were being shown children during close encounters.
“At the time, I didn't know anything about the fact that people were shown children and stuff.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:40:35.3-01:40:42.1 testimony first hand
2142
Whitley Strieber believes the baby he and Anne Strieber were shown may have been his own offspring.
“But I think that that might have been ours, mine anyway.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:40:43.2-01:40:46.4 opinion first hand
2143
Whitley Strieber prays for the children he believes were fathered from the semen taken from him during his close encounter.
“I pray for my kids, by whoever they are and however many, because a little bit of semen can go a long way.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:41:47.3-01:41:55.3 testimony first hand
2144
A woman might lose 10 or 15 eggs over the years, whereas a man could father hundreds of children from a single vial of semen.
“A woman might lose 10 or 15 eggs over the years, but a guy could have hundreds of children out of one vial of semen.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:41:56.9-01:42:08.0 opinion first hand
2145
During Whitley Strieber's 1985 close encounter at his upstate New York cabin, the semen taken from him was carried away in a small gold-coloured vial by a small being that ran off with it as though it were a treasure.
“I remember very well they took it away in a little gold vial. It was shaped like this, gold color, and it was obviously They were excited, and this little being ran off with it like it was a treasure.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:42:09.4-01:42:28.4 testimony first hand
2146
Whitley Strieber believes the non-human intelligences taking human reproductive material want humanity to continue existing because they need humans for some purpose.
“they obviously want us around or they wouldn't they wouldn't be taking this from us they need us for something for some reason”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:42:51.0-01:42:59.8 opinion first hand
2147
Reports of alien abduction began in large numbers in the 1960s, peaked in the late 1970s, drifted off through the 1980s and had largely ceased by 1990.
“that was when this, the abduction started in the 1960s in large numbers and peaked. in the, in the late 70s and drifted off through the 80s. And by 1990, they were pretty much gone.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:43:33.1-01:43:44.9 observation
2148
Whitley Strieber does not consider that time as commonly understood exists, regarding time as a label placed on perceived change and then measured.
“In my understanding of science, I can't see where time as we know it even exists. In other words, time is something we put on the changes that we perceive. We call that time and we measure it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:44:58.3-01:45:13.7 opinion first hand
2149
Whitley Strieber had a physical experience of going back in time.
“At the same time, I had an experience of going back in time at one point, and it was very physical.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:45:15.5-01:45:22.2 testimony first hand
2150
Whitley Strieber proposes that the non-human intelligences may be humans from one or two thousand years in the future whose gene pool has been degraded by pollution or atomic war, returning to collect human genetic material.
“could it be that in the future they are us and they are they've run out of good genes because of maybe pollution, atomic war, all kinds of different things could have happened. ... A thousand years, two thousand years.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:45:25.3-01:45:49.4 opinion first hand
2151
Whitley Strieber considers humanity to be effectively alone in the universe, which although vast is not so vast that contact with others would be impossible.
“And we are virtually, in fact, alone, at least in the university. It's a big place, but it's not so big that we can be in contact with anyone else.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:45:50.6-01:45:58.6 opinion first hand
2152
Whitley Strieber proposes that a time traveller returning to the past would be constrained by the grandfather paradox to a very limited set of actions, and could evade that constraint by creating beings that never existed in the past, so that the beings reported as aliens would in fact be artificial creations made by future humanity to gain freedom of action in the present.
“something called the grandfather paradox would kick in, and you would have a very limited number of things you could do in the past without changing the present, unless you could deceive the grandfather paradox. ... In other words, the aliens aren't aliens at all. They are something that was created by humanity in the future to give us, them, more freedom of action in the present.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:46:15.9-01:46:55.6 opinion first hand
2153
Whitley Strieber's time slip on LaGuardia Place happened in 1983-03, before the events described in Communion, at a time when he had no interest in the Unidentified Flying Object or alien subject and had not thought about it since he was 12 years old.
“This happened in March of 1983. It's important to understand that this was before any of the communion stuff. I was far from the UFO alien world at that time. That was of no interest to me whatsoever. And I hadn't thought about that since I was 12 years old.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:47:10.6-01:47:28.8 testimony first hand
2154
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber lived at 520 LaGuardia Place in Manhattan, immediately north of Bleecker Street.
“We lived at uh on LaGuardia Place just immediately north of Bleecker. 520 LaGuardia Place, this was called.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:47:42.2-01:47:50.7 administrative first hand
2155
The site of LaGuardia Park in Manhattan was bare mud at the time Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber lived on LaGuardia Place.
“And there's a beautiful park there, by the way, if anyone ever wants to go, it's called LaGuardia Park. And it wasn't there then, it was just mud.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:47:52.0-01:48:00.4 testimony first hand
2156
Anne Strieber decided to turn the muddy ground opposite their LaGuardia Place home into a park and raised millions of dollars to create LaGuardia Park.
“And one day Ann looked out of our windows and she said, you know, I'm going to turn that into a park. ... And before I knew it, millions of dollars had been raised.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:48:01.3-01:48:06.4 testimony first hand
2157
LaGuardia Park in Manhattan contains a statue of Mary LaGuardia with a plaque beneath it, and the plaque names Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber among the creators of the park.
“there's a beautiful statue of Mary LaGuardia in it and a plaque under the statue with all the amazing fancy people. ... also the name of Whitley and Anne Streber among the creators of the park.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:48:25.7-01:48:41.9 observation
2158
Whitley Strieber asked Anne Strieber not to put his name on the LaGuardia Park plaque, and she insisted it be included because he had said yes to the project.
“I said, Annie, you shouldn't put my name on there. She said, no, no, you should be on there. You said yes to it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:48:45.1-01:48:50.3 testimony first hand
2159
Whitley Strieber's 1983 time slip began on a drizzly Saturday morning in 1983-03 while he stood at the corner of LaGuardia Place and West Houston Street on his way to a bank to withdraw cash, at a time before cash machines.
“I'm on the corner of Bleeker, uh, of, uh, LaGuardia place and West Alston street. It's a sort of drizzly March morning. I'm going to the bank. It's Saturday morning to get some money for, cause this was before, you know, the cash machines you had from the tellers.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:48:56.0-01:49:15.4 testimony first hand
2160
During Whitley Strieber's 1983 time slip on LaGuardia Place, he first heard, without seeing, something large and creaking pass a short distance in front of him and turn onto LaGuardia Place.
“i hear i do not see i hear what sounds like something big and really creaky going right past in front of me right on the street like right a few feet in front of me and it turns onto LaGuardia place.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:49:27.5-01:49:44.0 testimony first hand
2161
During Whitley Strieber's 1983 time slip on LaGuardia Place, he saw a large wagon pulled by big grey horses loaded with jars, could hear sloshing and smell pickles, and saw a man in a black apron seated high on the wagon.
“I see a big wagon that's being pulled by big gray horses. And it's got jars on it. And you can hear sloshing and you can smell pickles. And it's a wagon, this big wagon with pickles and a guy way up on top of it in a black apron.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:49:54.1-01:50:14.6 testimony first hand
2162
During Whitley Strieber's 1983 time slip on LaGuardia Place, a short woman dressed entirely in black recoiled from him at close range and hurried away.
“there's a woman about this tall who is totally dressed in black and she shries away from me and goes skittering away from me.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:50:31.9-01:50:42.5 testimony first hand
2163
During Whitley Strieber's 1983 time slip on LaGuardia Place, the two condominium buildings that stood across the street were replaced by a row of brownstones, and a man in a derby hat with an intent expression was calling something to him that he could not make out.
“the at that time there were two condos there there are no condos there's a row of brownstones and the man is there and he's in a derby and he's very intent expression on his face and he is calling to me or saying something i can't quite hear”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:50:54.6-01:51:13.7 testimony first hand
2164
During Whitley Strieber's 1983 time slip on LaGuardia Place, he saw a group of riders on thoroughbred horses in red riding clothes coming up West Broadway, along with carriages.
“I see a group of horsemen in beautiful, with thoroughbred horses and their red riding clothes, the fancy clothes, coming up West Broadway. And their carriages”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:51:31.3-01:51:42.6 testimony first hand
2165
During Whitley Strieber's 1983 time slip on LaGuardia Place, the air appeared brown and smelled of coal smoke.
“And the air is sort of brown. It smells different. It smells like coal smoke, actually.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:51:43.2-01:51:49.0 testimony first hand
2166
During Whitley Strieber's 1983 time slip on LaGuardia Place, he attempted to pick up a newspaper from the gutter to establish the date, and as he leaned over felt what seemed like ice water pass through the centre of his body accompanied by an unbearable loneliness, which caused him to stop.
“I see some newspaper in the gutter, and I think to myself, I'm going to get that newspaper because I'll find the date on it. And I lean over to pick it up. And when I lean over what feels like ice water goes through the center of my body, and I experience unbelievable loneliness.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:51:57.8-01:52:25.2 testimony first hand
2167
Whitley Strieber's 1983 time slip on LaGuardia Place lasted about a minute, judged by the pedestrian signal having gone through a full walk cycle and returned to flashing.
“the light which said don't walk is now flashing which means that it went through the walk cycle and it's flashing so i've been in there for about a minute”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:52:50.7-01:53:01.6 testimony first hand
2168
After his 1983 time slip on LaGuardia Place, Whitley Strieber abandoned his trip to the bank and ran home, fearing he had not returned to his own time.
“there's no way I'm going to the bank now. I turned around and ran home for fear that I was not back in this time, but what if I was two days earlier, two days late?”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:53:11.9-01:53:21.3 testimony first hand
2169
After returning home from his 1983 time slip on LaGuardia Place, Whitley Strieber found everything normal, told Anne Strieber he had forgotten the money, went back out and withdrew it, and only later told her what had happened.
“I go upstairs and everything is normal. Ann says, where's the money? I said, oh, I forgot it. ... So I went back out and got the money. I tell her the story eventually”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:53:23.6-01:53:35.9 testimony first hand
2170
Whitley Strieber told Anne Strieber that if the time slip happened again he would place a classified advertisement in a nineteenth-century New York newspaper such as the New York Journal, and the two of them went to the New York Public Library to search the microfilm of late nineteenth-century newspapers for it.
“if it ever happens again, if I'm able to, I'll put a classified ad in the journal, New York Journal, or one of those papers that existed then. So we decide to go up to the New York Public Library and look through the microfilm of all those old newspapers from the late 19th century, which is when it was.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:54:03.7-01:54:23.6 testimony first hand
2171
In the Manhattan neighbourhood where Whitley Strieber searched the newspaper classified advertisements, he never found any notice indicating a person was trapped in time.
“we never see anything that says i am trapped in time anything like that”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:54:42.9-01:54:47.2 observation first hand
2172
About three years before the 2026-07-24 interview, Whitley Strieber found a sign on a deliberately wilded garden one block from Anne Strieber's garden in Manhattan naming it the Time Garden.
“fast forward to recently about three years ago i'm there and i discover a sign on the little now big wild garden not the not Anne's garden but this is a block away it's a wild garden it's purposely been wilded ... It's called the Time Garden.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:54:52.6-01:55:10.9 observation first hand
2173
The wild garden on LaGuardia Place in Manhattan called the Time Garden is named for the idea that nothing inside it will ever be touched, so it will be frozen in time.
“the idea being that you know nothing will be touched in here and so it'll be frozen in time”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:55:24.6-01:55:28.6 testimony first hand
2174
After Whitley Strieber discussed his 1983 LaGuardia Place time slip on his own programme, an unnamed listener wrote to him saying that Nikola Tesla's laboratory had stood across the street from where the time slip happened.
“i'm talking about this maybe on dreamland actually i'm i think it was on my show and uh i someone writes me and say says do you know What was across the street from where that happened to you when it happened? It was Nikola Tesla's lab.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:55:35.7-01:55:56.2 hearsay second hand
2175
There is no record of Nikola Tesla conducting experiments with time, but his laboratory was in the immediate area of the site of Whitley Strieber's 1983 time slip on LaGuardia Place in Manhattan.
“There's no record of him doing experiments with time, but his lab was right in that immediate area. That is correct.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:56:08.0-01:56:14.5 testimony first hand
2176
Whitley Strieber speculates that Nikola Tesla may have drawn him back in time during the 1983 LaGuardia Place time slip and that the figure he saw shouting was Tesla trying to contact him.
“And maybe he drew me back in time and he was trying to contact me. Maybe that was what he was yelling at.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:56:17.9-01:56:22.8 opinion first hand
2177
Whitley Strieber wants to learn to leave his body under his own control and travel where he chooses, believing an out-of-body experience of that kind is possible.
“Get out of my body on my own because I know it's possible and I would like to do it myself and go where I want to go and do what I want to do.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:57:10.7-01:57:19.0 opinion first hand
2178
Whitley Strieber believes levitation is real and possible, and wants to do it himself.
“Number two, I know levitation is real, and it is possible, and I want to do that.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:57:20.2-01:57:27.9 opinion first hand
2179
The medieval levitation events described in Carlos Eire's book They Flew had thousands of witnesses and were carefully studied by the Roman Inquisition, which conducted a large number of investigations into them.
“not only were there thousands of witnesses to these events, they were studied by the Inquisition very carefully. And there are massive numbers of inquisitorial investigations into these levitations.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:57:59.9-01:58:14.0 testimony second hand
2180
The Roman Inquisition investigated medieval levitations because if it judged the levitation to be caused by demons the levitator would be burned.
“the reason being that the Inquisition was interested because if they thought it was demons, then they were going to definitely fire you up.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:58:16.6-01:58:27.0 testimony second hand
2181
Medieval people who levitated did not advertise the fact, and their levitation typically became known because other people witnessed it.
“So these people who flew, you didn't you didn't make a big deal of that you didn't advertise it exactly unless you were sure and usually it was because other people saw it”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:58:29.0-01:58:39.7 testimony second hand
2182
Joseph of Cupertino levitated in front of the Pope and a room full of people.
“Joseph of Cupertino yeah was seen by even the pope ... well he levitated in front of the pope and and a room full of people”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:58:41.7-01:58:49.4 testimony second hand
2183
The Pope who witnessed Joseph of Cupertino levitate said that if Joseph of Cupertino died before he did, he would make him a saint, but the Pope died first.
“the pope at that time said if he dies before i do i am going to make him a saint And unfortunately, it happened the opposite way.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:58:52.8-01:59:03.3 testimony second hand
2184
Mary of Agreda, a nun in a convent, levitated and was not conscious while doing so.
“There's another wonderful story about a lady called Mary of Agreda. ... she was in the convent and she used to levitate and she was not conscious when she”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:59:04.3-01:59:23.2 testimony
2185
Mary of Agreda bilocated across the ocean to New Mexico.
“she bilocated to New Mexico that's right exactly across the ocean right”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:59:25.0-01:59:29.1 testimony
2186
While Mary of Agreda was levitating, other nuns could blow on her and move her about like a helium balloon, and they took her out into the convent courtyard where people paid to come in and blow her around.
“the other nuns took to moving her out you could apparently you could literally blow on her and you know she got blow away like a balloon in the like a helium balloon and uh she would uh they would get her out into the courtyard and people would pay to come in and blow her on her and move her around the courtyard.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:59:32.6-01:59:54.1 testimony
2187
When Mary of Agreda found out that people were paying to blow her around the convent courtyard while she levitated, she was angry at being made a spectacle of, and she was eventually able to get God to stop her levitating.
“And when she found out about this, she was pissed off because, you know, she was being made a spectacle of and stuff. And she eventually was able to get God to stop her levitating.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:59:54.6-02:00:04.1 testimony
2188
Most of the historical levitators did not want to levitate very much.
“And most of them didn't want to levitate very much. I want to, though.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:00:04.7-02:00:08.4 opinion first hand
2189
Whitley Strieber considers it unlikely, though not impossible, that the medieval levitators were fooling thousands of witnesses, because the stakes were so high for them given the trouble they could face with the Roman Inquisition.
“Could it be that these people were all fooling thousands of witnesses? ... It's not impossible. It might be unlikely. The reason it might be unlikely is that the stakes are so high for them because they could get into terrible trouble with the Inquisition.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:01:10.5-02:01:29.6 opinion first hand
2190
Paul Eno, who wrote books on the paranormal and has since died, was a novice priest who became the assistant to his diocesan exorcist.
“a lovely guy called Paul Eno, who has passed away. He was He got into this whole paranormal stuff and wrote some books. But before that, he was a novice priest. And he ended up as the assistant to the diocesan exorcist.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:01:53.7-02:02:14.8 administrative second hand
2191
Paul Eno told Whitley Strieber that he and the diocesan exorcist were called to a mental institution to treat a 17-year-old girl who had been diagnosed as schizophrenic and was also a drug addict, whose family had asked for an exorcist after nothing else helped.
“They were called to a mental institution in which there was a young 17-year-old girl. The family was desperate because she was diagnosed as schizophrenic and she was a drug addict as well. ... And so they had asked for the exorcist in hopes that by some miracle that would help.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:02:16.9-02:02:45.6 hearsay second hand
2192
Paul Eno told Whitley Strieber that during the exorcism the 17-year-old girl rose out of her wheelchair and floated in the air still in a sitting position, in front of Paul Eno, the exorcist, a second assistant, a psychiatrist and three attendants, all of whom could see it.
“So the exorcist goes in to this room where the girl is sitting in a wheelchair. Paul is with him. There's a psychiatrist and three assistants, three attendees in the room as well. ... And suddenly, still in a sitting position, she rises up out of the chair. ... And she's like floating in the air, still in a sitting position. They all can see it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:02:49.0-02:03:21.8 hearsay second hand
2193
Paul Eno told Whitley Strieber that when the exorcist instructed him to push the floating 17-year-old girl back down into her wheelchair, he felt a mild electrical energy entering his hand as he did so.
“And the exorcist simply says to Paul, push her down into the chair. And he pushes her down into the chair again, and he said, I could feel an energy, a sort of mild electricity coming into my hand.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:03:31.3-02:03:44.6 hearsay second hand
2194
A sensation of electricity is reported in a few of the medieval levitation cases as well.
“And that's reported in a few of the cases in the medieval era as well.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:03:46.0-02:03:49.9 testimony first hand
2195
Whitley Strieber considers that the sensation of electricity reported during levitations is the key to many phenomena that are not understood.
“that if this is real, then that feeling, that sense of electricity, whatever that is, is the key to a lot of things that we don't understand.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:03:54.4-02:04:04.6 opinion first hand
2196
For many years Whitley Strieber felt the same electrical sensation touching him in different places on his body, and the experience has tailed off recently.
“And I went through many years, it's tailed off recently, of where I would feel that same electricity touching me in different places on my body.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:04:05.3-02:04:14.9 observation first hand
2197
When people came face to face with the Non-Human Intelligence at Whitley Strieber's upstate New York cabin and were touched by them, an electrical sensation went through their bodies.
“And when people were confronting, found themselves face to face with the visitors, at the cabin if the visitors touched them that electricity would go through their bodies”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:04:16.1-02:04:27.8 testimony first hand
2198
Whitley Strieber considers the energy involved in levitation and in contact with the Non-Human Intelligence to be real and not supernatural or magical, but something not yet understood.
“it's not magic it's real it's not supernatural but it feels that way because we don't understand”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:04:39.2-02:04:45.8 opinion first hand
2199
Whitley Strieber thinks of the energy behind levitation as an earth energy connected with the planet.
“i think of it as an earth energy it's something to do with the planet”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:05:08.7-02:05:11.5 opinion first hand
2200
Whitley Strieber has never read the whole of All and Everything: Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson, whereas Anne Strieber read it in two weeks and understood it.
“it's almost unreadable by the way i've never read the whole thing and of course picked it up and read it in two weeks and i mean she's you take a look at this thing you'll understand when i say Anne was really smart that she could read that in two weeks and understand it”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:05:46.5-02:06:02.2 testimony first hand
2201
Whitley Strieber considers the platform at Baalbek, the pyramids of Egypt, Sacsayhuaman in Peru and the artificial islands of Nan Madol to be impossible ancient ruins whose immensity and precision cannot be reproduced today.
“if you look into the past and you see these incredibly mysterious, impossible ruins like the platform at Baalbek or the fantastic immensity of some of the and and and precision with some so many different very ancient ruins around the world uh possess the pyramids the saxahuaman in peru uh are the 750 000 basalt logs that make up the artificial islands of nanmadal ... We can't do any of that anymore.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:06:24.2-02:07:06.7 opinion first hand
2202
The artificial islands of Nan Madol are made up of 750,000 basalt logs.
“are the 750 000 basalt logs that make up the artificial islands of nanmadal in the carolina islands in the pacific”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:06:52.3-02:07:02.9 measurement first hand
2203
Ed Leedskalnin built Coral Castle using techniques he said he had learned in Lithuania and that were ancient Egyptian magic.
“Or Ed Leedskalnin, who created- ... Coral Castle, somehow using techniques that he said he had learned in Lithuania and that they were ancient Egyptian magic.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:07:08.2-02:07:21.3 hearsay second hand
2204
Whitley Strieber considers that humanity may have lost or forgotten something and been severed from an earth energy, as G. I. Gurdjieff described.
“maybe your chief was right. Maybe we lost something. Maybe what we really are is something we've forgotten and lost. We've been severed from that energy.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:07:33.2-02:07:44.8 opinion first hand
2205
Whitley Strieber considers that some Non-Human Intelligence beings present here may be exploiting humanity because it has been severed from the earth energy, while other beings may be trying to help humans reconnect with it.
“Are there beings here trying to exploit us because we've kind of gone blind? And are there other beings here trying to help us reconnect with this energy? Maybe that's what it's all about.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:07:52.7-02:08:06.3 opinion first hand
2206
Whitley Strieber considers the Non-Human Intelligence too mixed a group to be called good or bad, with some wanting to exploit humanity and some wanting to help.
“Some, some may want it and some may want to help us because it's too, it's too mixed a bag to say it's the good guys or bad guys. It's both.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:08:12.0-02:08:21.7 opinion first hand
2207
Whitley Strieber considers the Greys to be a moral grey area and thinks they are called the Greys for that reason.
“I'm, I'm a definite gray area and I think the grays are called the grays for a reason and that's it. For a reason.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:08:31.7-02:08:35.8 opinion first hand
2208
Whitley Strieber considers the most significant revelation from using his alien implant as a research tool to be learning how to use it.
“I think the most significant revelation was understanding how to use it, how to do that.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:09:21.7-02:09:26.4 opinion first hand
2209
Whitley Strieber began writing the book In Hitler's House shortly after Anne Strieber died, because he was unable to write anything on the close encounter subject at that time and history, particularly World War II history, is one of his interests.
“I wrote a book. called In Hitler's House. I started it right after Annie passed away because I wasn't able to write anything in this subject, and I'm interested in history. And in World War II history in particular, it's one of my interests.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:09:31.3-02:09:49.0 testimony first hand
2210
Whitley Strieber learned to use his alien implant while writing the book In Hitler's House.
“I learned to use the implant writing that book, and I guess the most significant revelation was learning how.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:09:58.8-02:10:08.1 testimony first hand
2211
Whitley Strieber's alien implant was present but did nothing from 1989 until early 2015, and he began to see a slit associated with it only after Anne Strieber died.
“First, after she passed away is when I began to see the slit. All those years from 1989 until 2015, it just was there. It didn't do anything. Then in 2013, 2014, no, no, it was early 2015, excuse me.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:10:09.2-02:10:28.7 testimony first hand
2212
In early 2015 Anne Strieber, after her death, got Whitley Strieber to memorise the poem The Song of Wandering Aengus, which contains the lines about white moths being on the wing and moth-like stars flickering out.
“She begins to get me to memorize a certain poem called Song of the Wandering Angus, which has the lines in it when white moths were on the wing and the moth-like stars were flickering out.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:10:29.6-02:10:42.4 testimony first hand
2213
Anne Strieber's favourite short story of Whitley Strieber's was The White Moths.
“I realized that her favorite short story of mine was called The White Moths.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:10:49.5-02:10:54.4 testimony first hand
2214
A white moth began appearing in front of the camera at Whitley Strieber's house, which he takes to be an avatar Anne Strieber created for herself after her death to show her presence in this world.
“And this white moth starts appearing in front of the camera at the house that she was creating an avatar for herself, the white moth.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:10:55.8-02:11:05.2 observation first hand
2215
Whitley Strieber considers Anne Strieber the only person ever to have intentionally created an avatar for herself to show her presence in this world, and holds that she knew a great deal about life and death.
“she sure knew a lot about life and death. Because I think she's the only person who's ever intentionally created an avatar for herself to show her presence in this world.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:11:08.5-02:11:18.0 opinion first hand
2216
The slit associated with Whitley Strieber's alien implant opened up with words racing through it, and at one point it slowed down and read "it's me, Anne" before speeding up again.
“The slit's opened up, and words are racing through it, and I'm trying to figure out what's going on. At one point, it slows down, and it says, it's me, Anne. And the words start up again very fast.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:11:24.8-02:11:35.2 observation first hand
2217
Whitley Strieber found that if he takes his thinking out of his head and relaxes while letting the words race through the slit, they tell him what he needs to know without his looking for it, which he regards as his most significant breakthrough with the implant.
“eventually and this is the most significant breakthrough i find out if i take my mind my thinking out of my head and just relax and let it let the words race They will tell me what I need to know without my looking for it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:11:36.5-02:12:00.8 testimony first hand
2218
Whitley Strieber's book In Hitler's House is written from the viewpoint of someone who was with Adolf Hitler before and during World War II, and required perfect period detail of clothing, food, pens, bed linen and toiletries.
“So I'm writing this book and it's from the viewpoint of someone who was there with Hitler. before and during the World War. So it's gotta be, the verisimilitude has to be perfect. It's not just a historical novel, you've got to know what kind of suits they wore, what kind of things they ate, what kind of pens they used, what their bed linen felt like, what they bathed with, what kind of toothpaste they used, all of that stuff.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:12:01.4-02:12:36.1 administrative first hand
2219
While writing In Hitler's House, Whitley Strieber found period details dropping into his head, sometimes as an idea of how to search for them using Google, which he attributes to his alien implant.
“And all of those details keep dropping into my head. Some of them just drop into it. Sometimes I am given an idea of how to Google it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:12:37.0-02:12:49.5 testimony first hand
2220
While seeking details of Adolf Hitler's personal life for In Hitler's House, Whitley Strieber unexpectedly found himself on the German-language Google, translated the page, and found an article about a book written by one of Adolf Hitler's valets about his experience in that role.
“Like I needed something, some details about Hitler's personal life. ... And somehow or another, I end up on the German language, Google. I don't know how I got there suddenly. And I get it, Google translate the page. And on the page that I'm on is a story about one of Hitler's valets who wrote a book about him, about his experience as Hitler's valet.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:12:54.3-02:13:33.9 testimony first hand
2221
Whitley Strieber bought the German-language memoir by one of Adolf Hitler's valets from the German Amazon site; the book has never been translated into English.
“So I go on the German Amazon and I find the book. It's in German. It's never been translated into English. I buy it. it comes a couple of weeks later.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:13:37.8-02:13:48.8 testimony first hand
2222
A German-speaking member of a group of Whitley Strieber's friends offered to translate the valet's memoir of Adolf Hitler for him, giving him details such as Adolf Hitler's brand of toothpaste.
“And I mention it with a group of friends. And one of the people says, oh, I'm from Germany. I speak German. I'll read it. I'll translate it for you. And so I get every detail about Hitler's brand of toothpaste and everything.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:13:56.3-02:14:11.4 testimony first hand
2223
Whitley Strieber's alien implant does not supply original ideas he has no prior connection to; when asked about topics such as anti-gravity and physics it extrapolates from what he already knows or pushes him in the right direction.
“it does not tell me i've asked it for things like uh anti-gravity and sure physics stuff and so forth and it will extrapolate from things i already know or or it or or push me in right directions but it won't give me original ideas that i don't already have some connection to”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:14:18.2-02:14:38.2 testimony first hand
2224
Whitley Strieber agrees that one level of how his alien implant works is as a synchronicity engine.
“Chris Ramsay: it's almost like a synchronicity engine Whitley Strieber: Yeah, that would be, one level of it is definitely that.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:14:38.5-02:14:44.7 opinion first hand
2225
Whitley Strieber's alien implant was active during the 2026-07-24 interview with Chris Ramsay, and with it active he did not lose any names during the conversation, whereas without it active he does not necessarily recall a name such as Robert Sarbacher.
“in this conversation, you'll notice I've never lost a name or anything like that as we've gone through the conversation because the implant, like I don't necessarily remember the name of Robert Sarbacher when we're not talking, when the implant's not on, but when it is on, no problem.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:14:51.4-02:15:07.5 testimony first hand
2226
Whitley Strieber cannot switch his alien implant on or off; it activates by itself when whoever is on the other side of it considers the occasion important, sometimes turning on the morning before.
“Oh, no. It's something that the implant considers important. Whoever's on the other side of it, it'll turn on like the morning before.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:15:17.6-02:15:25.7 testimony first hand
2227
On the day of the 2026-07-24 interview Whitley Strieber's alien implant turned on early, switched off when Chris Ramsay called to say they would start late, and turned back on while he was travelling in the car.
“It turned on today early. And then when you called me up and told me we were going to be starting late, it turned off. ... it turned back on again while we were riding in the car”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:15:26.5-02:15:37.2 testimony first hand
2228
Whitley Strieber can feel his alien implant when it turns on because it becomes hot.
“i can feel it when it turns on it gets hot”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:15:44.4-02:15:46.0 observation first hand
2229
Bill Mallow was head of material science at Southwest Research Institute and one of its founders, and he carried out the implant research that Roger Leir did there.
“there was a wonderful guy at Southwest Research called Bill Mallow he was the head of material science and he was the one who did the implant research that Roger Lear did there. ... He was, he was one of the founders of it.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:15:49.3-02:16:07.2 administrative first hand
2230
Bill Mallow was not allowed to put anything about the alien implant research on Southwest Research Institute stationery, but disregarded that and did as he wished.
“He wasn't allowed to put anything on Southwest Research Stationery, but he didn't care.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:16:02.2-02:16:06.2 testimony first hand
2231
While Whitley Strieber was in Bill Mallow's office discussing his alien implant, the implant turned on, and Bill Mallow observed that Whitley Strieber's ear was bright red while Whitley Strieber felt it was hot.
“The implant once turned on in his office. We were talking about it. I was telling him about it and telling him the story. And he said, my God, your ear is bright red. And I felt it was hot. And I said, it's turned on, Bill.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:16:12.5-02:16:28.6 observation first hand
2232
When Whitley Strieber's alien implant turned on in his office, Bill Mallow took him immediately to the signals laboratory at Southwest Research Institute, where two staff spent a period attempting to acquire a signal.
“He said, let's go to the signals lab right now. And we ran across the campus to the signals lab. And so I sat in the signals lab and these two guys were in there and they were working, trying to acquire a signal. And after a while, they said they were finished.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:16:29.6-02:16:47.1 testimony first hand
2233
Approximately 20 years after a doctor told Whitley Strieber that the laboratory studying material from his implant was classified, two men approached him while he was signing books at a book festival in San Antonio and told him that the signal found coming from his implant was still under study and was one of the strangest and most complex signals they had ever discovered.
“20 years pass. I'm signing books at the book festival in San Antonio, and two guys walk up to me, and they say, we just want you to know that the signal that was found coming from your implant is under study to this day it is one of the strangest and most complex signals that we have ever discovered and then they turn around and walk out”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:17:06.0-02:17:33.0 testimony first hand
2234
Two unidentified men who approached Whitley Strieber at a book festival in San Antonio said the signal found coming from his implant remained under study and was one of the strangest and most complex signals they had ever discovered.
“we just want you to know that the signal that was found coming from your implant is under study to this day it is one of the strangest and most complex signals that we have ever discovered”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:17:17.4-02:17:31.2 hearsay second hand
2235
Whitley Strieber finds it one of his great frustrations that he, a horror novelist rather than an eminent scientist, received an implant while the best minds did not.
“one of the great frustrations is Why just me? Why some horror novelist who's smart enough, but I'm not Stephen Hawking or any of those guys? Why don't they get them? Why don't our best minds get them, not just me?”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:17:43.4-02:18:04.3 opinion first hand
2236
Whitley Strieber considers it possible that recipients of alien implants are unaware they have them, and that some people are geniuses because they have one.
“Maybe they don't even know they have them. ... Maybe they're geniuses because they have them.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:18:11.3-02:18:14.2 opinion first hand
2237
Whitley Strieber considers there to be a definite threat of a major coronal mass ejection.
“absolutely yeah there is definitely a threat of a major coronal mass ejection”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:18:39.8-02:18:43.6 opinion first hand
2238
The Sun is a yellow dwarf star, and yellow dwarfs periodically emit large outbursts.
“our star is a yellow dwarf and they do have a bad habit of bursting out with these big burps every once in a while”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:18:46.0-02:18:56.0 observation
2239
The geological record contains evidence of coronal mass ejections much bigger than the Carrington Event, which Whitley Strieber dated to 1853.
“you find in the geologic record evidence of much bigger coronal mass ejections than the uh Carrington uh Event of 1853”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:19:00.0-02:19:08.7 observation
2240
During the interview, a brief pause in Whitley Strieber's speech occurred because his implant was supplying him with the date information he was reciting about the Carrington Event.
“see that popped in you notice a little stop in my voice that was the implant giving me the information the dates”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:19:11.9-02:19:18.9 testimony first hand
2241
Whitley Strieber regards the Sun's strange behaviour over the past few years as a warning sign.
“the fact that the sun has been acting strangely for the past few years now is i think a warning sign”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:19:26.0-02:19:33.8 opinion first hand
2242
Solar Flares by Whitley Strieber sold about four copies, because it was published when e-books were very new.
“it sold like four copies because this was in a time when e-books were very new”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:19:44.0-02:19:48.0 administrative first hand
2243
A major coronal mass ejection would destroy satellites, but would not necessarily bring down the internet, which has been hardened against such an event.
“we didn't necessarily lose the internet, but we'd lose satellites because the internet has been hardened against this”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:20:03.9-02:20:10.5 opinion
2244
The most serious loss from a major coronal mass ejection would be electrical power, because the huge transformers involved have few or no replacements available.
“the most serious loss would be uh power because there are these huge transformers that we don't have replacements for or we have a few replacements”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:20:12.1-02:20:25.4 opinion
2245
If the large electrical transformers in the United States all failed, the country would be without power for years.
“but if they all blew like in the United States We would be with no power for years.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:20:26.0-02:20:32.8 opinion
2246
A years-long loss of electrical power in the United States would cause a decline in the population of massive proportions.
“if you look at what that would do, it causes a decline in the population of massive proportions”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:20:35.1-02:20:40.7 opinion first hand
2247
Whitley Strieber holds that most power companies are governed by a three-month financial reporting horizon and do not plan for the state of the company or the world five to ten years ahead.
“most of the power companies, they're interested in you know, the fatal three-month measurement in capitalism, which is management cares about the next finance report three months from now. They do not care about the company five years from now or the world 10 years from now”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:20:46.4-02:21:07.8 opinion first hand
2248
More than half of large fires turn out to have been caused by power lines that the power companies did not prepare against wind, which spark and start the fires, because the companies did not want to spend the money.
“half the time it turns out or more than half the time to have been power lines that they did not prepare for winds and and uh they spark and they cause these huge fires Because they didn't want to spend the money.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:21:13.8-02:21:26.5 opinion
2249
Power companies have not built enough backup transformers, nor arranged for transformers to be easily reconnected after a failure.
“they have not built enough backup transformers, nor have they created a situation where they can be easily reconnected”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:21:38.7-02:21:45.3 opinion
2250
Countries other than the United Kingdom and the European Union have much better hardening of their electrical grids against a coronal mass ejection.
“Other countries have much better hardening than the UK and the EU do.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:21:46.9-02:21:51.6 opinion
2251
Whitley Strieber expects the United States to be devastated by a major coronal mass ejection.
“But we're going to be devastated, almost certainly.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:21:58.6-02:22:01.6 opinion first hand
2252
John Ramirez, described as a Central Intelligence Agency figure, said something about a mass event occurring in 2027.
“supposedly John Ramirez, the CIA guy, said something about that.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:22:11.9-02:22:15.7 hearsay second hand
2253
John Ramirez told Whitley Strieber on Whitley Strieber's programme Dreamland that he had only repeated what someone else said about a 2027 event.
“Yeah, that's what he told me on my show, too.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:22:20.8-02:22:22.2 hearsay second hand
2254
The origin of the claim about a mass event in 2027 cannot be traced; it bubbled up without an identifiable starting point.
“but who said it? I mean, if you look back, you can't find out... exactly where it started. It's one of those things that sort of bubbled up.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:22:24.0-02:22:31.0 opinion first hand
2255
Whitley Strieber expects a private credit crunch to become a major financial problem very soon.
“the the private credit crunch is a major financial problem that's going to be coming our way very soon”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:22:46.2-02:22:53.2 opinion first hand
2256
Whitley Strieber raises the possibility that the critical mass of human minds becoming convinced that aliens are real would cause non-human intelligences to come through the door of the mind from another dimension, possibly in 2027.
“what if the critical mass is what we talked about a little bit earlier of us in our minds becoming so convinced that the aliens are real that they come in through the door of the mind from another dimension. And that happens in 2027. It would be about the right time, wouldn't it?”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:23:12.3-02:23:29.8 opinion first hand
2257
Whitley Strieber never talks about predictions, but does receive information.
“one of the things that I never, ever talk predictions, but I do get things”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:23:41.0-02:23:45.6 testimony first hand
2258
About eight to ten months before the interview, Whitley Strieber received during one of his 3 a.m. conversations through the implant that there was a significant danger that a war with Iran would evolve into a worldwide nuclear conflict.
“Now it's about nine months ago maybe, eight, nine, maybe ten months ago, I received during one of the 3 a.m. conversations in the implant that there was a significant danger that a war with Iran would evolve into a nuclear conflict worldwide.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:23:53.1-02:24:11.2 testimony first hand
2259
In the information Whitley Strieber received through his implant, a war with Iran would escalate to worldwide nuclear conflict not because anyone wanted it but because, as in World War I, the parties would be unable to stop once war had started.
“Not because anyone wanted it to, but because it would happen like World War I happened, where they couldn't stop going to war once they started.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:24:12.9-02:24:23.9 testimony first hand
2260
As of the interview, the United States is at war with Iran.
“And now we've gone to war with Iran. We're at war with Iran.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:24:25.7-02:24:30.8 observation
2261
Whitley Strieber regarded the information he received about an Iran war escalating to nuclear conflict as a warning rather than a prediction.
“I thought of it at the time as more a warning than a prediction. And I think that may have been what it is.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:24:38.8-02:24:44.9 opinion first hand
2262
Whitley Strieber does not currently see how the war with Iran could end in a worldwide nuclear conflict.
“But right now, I don't see how the war in Iran could possibly end in a nuclear conflict, a worldwide nuclear conflict.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:24:45.0-02:24:53.8 opinion first hand
2263
On 1914-08-01 the general view was that there was merely some trouble in the Balkans, and by 1914-09-01 the entire world was unexpectedly at war.
“on August the 1st, 1914, Everyone thought, well, there's some trouble in the Balkans. On September the 1st, the entire world was unexpectedly at war.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:24:56.6-02:25:09.0 observation
2264
Whitley Strieber and his family lived through the Greys entering their life and found it not impossible at all, but quite wonderful in many respects.
“we lived it it was not impossible at all it was quite wonderful in many respects and incredibly cool”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:25:59.6-02:26:09.8 testimony first hand
2265
Whitley Strieber held house parties at his cabin at which he could invite people to come and meet aliens, and it would actually happen.
“we had some of the best house parties you could imagine because we could actually say to people well you want to meet aliens come on up to the cabin and it actually would happen”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:26:10.7-02:26:18.0 testimony first hand
2266
Whitley Strieber thinks contact with the Greys of the kind described in Transformation 2026 might happen to a lot of people.
“It's there because I think that might happen to a lot of people.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:26:26.3-02:26:29.6 opinion first hand
2267
The centrepiece of G. I. Gurdjieff's All and Everything: Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson is a demonic figure creating an organ called the kundabuffer, which severs humanity from the earth energy.
“the centerpiece of this book ... he has in it this thing these this demon or whatever it is uh creates something called the organ kunda buffer that severs us from this energy. It's Kundalini Buffer. And we're severed from that energy.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 lines 233-238 administrative second hand
2268
Whitley Strieber has written over 30 novels and non-fiction works.
“the hugely successful author of over 30 novels and nonfiction works”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:00:27.0-00:00:31.6 administrative first hand
2269
Communion and Breakthrough are bestselling books by Whitley Strieber.
“including the bestsellers Communion and Breakthrough”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:00:32.6-00:00:35.1 administrative first hand
2270
Whitley Strieber calls the non-human beings he describes encountering "the visitors".
“His experiences with the beings he calls the visitors”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:00:36.3-00:00:40.0 administrative first hand
2271
Whitley Strieber is a controversial and leading figure in the study of alleged experiencer close encounters, in Ross Coulthart's assessment.
“have made him a controversial and leading figure in the study of alleged experiencer close encounters”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:00:40.7-00:00:46.8 opinion first hand
2272
Whitley Strieber's accounts of his own alleged abduction experiences began at his remote cabin in upstate New York in 1985-12.
“his personal accounts of his own paranormal abduction experiences from his remote cabin in upstate New York in December 1985”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:00:49.7-00:00:57.9 administrative first hand
2273
Whitley Strieber's book Communion, about being taken by non-human sentient beings, was a New York Times bestseller.
“his book, Communion, where he wrote about being taken by non-human sentient beings was a huge New York Times bestseller”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:00:58.2-00:01:07.6 administrative first hand
2274
Ross Coulthart has met many people who describe encounter experiences that were triggered by the image of the grey alien on the cover of the original edition of Whitley Strieber's Communion.
“I've lost count of the number of people I've met who describe experiences and how they were triggered by the image of the grey alien on the front cover of the original copy of Communion”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:01:09.8-00:01:21.3 testimony first hand
2275
Transformation 2026 is a substantially expanded and updated reissue of Whitley Strieber's 1988 non-fiction book Transformation.
“His latest book, Transformation 2026, is a substantially expanded and updated reissue of his 1988 nonfiction book, Transformation”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:01:22.8-00:01:33.7 administrative first hand
2276
Whitley Strieber's book Transformation was the sequel to Communion.
“which was the sequel to Communion”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:01:34.6-00:01:36.1 administrative first hand
2277
Whitley Strieber considers the whole contact experience with non-human beings to be primarily about the human soul rather than the body.
“I think that the experience, the whole contact experience is primarily about the soul. I think it's much more that than about the body.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:02:12.6-00:02:20.5 opinion first hand
2278
Whitley Strieber considers that most people do not believe they have a soul, and those who do believe cannot directly feel it.
“most of us don't believe we have a soul. And those of us who do believe can't feel it. We can't have a direct sensation of it at all.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:02:23.5-00:02:31.4 opinion first hand
2279
Whitley Strieber believes the non-human beings he encountered understand the soul and the afterlife, while humans do not.
“either we don't believe in it, we can't feel it, we don't understand it, and yet they do. They do.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:02:59.8-00:03:08.2 opinion first hand
2280
Whitley Strieber had a close encounter experience in 1985-12.
“I had this phenomenal close encounter experience in 1985 in december of 1985”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:03:38.3-00:03:45.2 testimony first hand
2281
Whitley Strieber was severely injured in some areas during his 1985 close encounter and the injuries took him to a doctor.
“I was injured quite severely in some areas. And so the injuries took me to the doctor”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:03:52.7-00:03:59.5 testimony first hand
2282
Whitley Strieber initially believed he had been assaulted by people wearing masks and did not connect his 1985 experience with aliens.
“somebody had assaulted me. But at that point, I still hadn't occurred to me that had anything to do with aliens. I remembered these masks”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:04:02.7-00:04:09.2 testimony first hand
2283
Whitley Strieber involved the New York State Criminal Investigation Division after his 1985 encounter, but they could do nothing because he had no evidence.
“I got the New York State Criminal Investigation Division involved and they couldn't do anything because I had no evidence”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:04:11.7-00:04:17.6 testimony first hand
2284
Whitley Strieber telephoned Budd Hopkins after reading Science and the UFOs.
“I'm going to call this guy and find out what he knows”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:04:41.8-00:04:43.5 testimony first hand
2285
Budd Hopkins wanted to hypnotise Whitley Strieber, and Strieber refused because Hopkins was an artist with no professional degrees displayed.
“He wanted to hypnotize me. And I thought, I see art on the walls. He's an artist. I do not see any professional degrees. So I said no to that.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:04:44.7-00:04:53.2 testimony first hand
2286
Budd Hopkins put Whitley Strieber in touch with Donald Klein, who then hypnotised Strieber.
“he proceeds to get me in touch with probably one of the world's leading forensic hypnotists at that time, Dr. Donald Klein, who proceeds to hypnotize me”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:04:53.8-00:05:04.1 testimony first hand
2287
Whitley Strieber regards Donald Klein as one of the world's leading forensic hypnotists at the time of the mid-1980s.
“probably one of the world's leading forensic hypnotists at that time, Dr. Donald Klein”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:04:56.0-00:05:00.4 opinion first hand
2288
Donald Klein understood the neurology of the brain, in Whitley Strieber's assessment.
“This is a man who understood the neurology of the brain and therefore understood how this all works.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:05:09.3-00:05:16.6 opinion first hand
2289
Donald Klein had solved 72 legal cases using forensic hypnosis by the mid-1980s.
“he had solved legal cases, 72 of them by that point in his career, using forensic hypnosis”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:05:18.7-00:05:26.6 measurement first hand
2290
Under hypnosis by Donald Klein, Whitley Strieber recalled appearing to have been abducted by aliens rather than assaulted by people in masks.
“Instead of seeing people in masks and being able to identify things I could take to the police, I appeared to have been abducted by aliens, just like Budd thought.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:05:37.3-00:05:46.6 testimony first hand
2291
By mid-1986 Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber were discussing whether to attempt to re-establish contact with the visitors or leave their upstate New York cabin permanently.
“by mid-1986, Anne and I were talking about, should we try to get back in contact or should we get the hell out of this cabin forever?”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:05:55.9-00:06:06.6 testimony first hand
2292
Anne Strieber urged Whitley Strieber to go back out to the woods where the first encounter happened in order to show the visitors he was interested.
“She said, well, let's go back. You go back out to the woods where it first happened, and that'll show them you're interested.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:06:21.4-00:06:26.6 testimony second hand
2293
Anne Strieber declined to go out into the woods herself because she had to care for their young son in the bedroom.
“I've got a little boy in the bedroom who I have to take care of, so you go out there by yourself.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:06:33.7-00:06:37.5 testimony second hand
2294
After three or four attempts Whitley Strieber went alone into the woods at night at his upstate New York cabin, and the visitors appeared within a few days and began coming to the house.
“But eventually, after three or four tries, I did it. They showed up very promptly. Within a few days, actually, they began to come to the house.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:06:45.9-00:06:54.9 testimony first hand
2295
Within a year of resuming contact attempts, the visitors were coming to Whitley Strieber's upstate New York cabin while gathered friends and correspondents were present.
“by the time a year was out, I was definitely involved with them. And they were coming up to the house. gathering people together, their friends and people who had written us about their experiences.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:06:57.3-00:07:13.3 testimony first hand
2296
Raven Dana, who is still alive, has vivid memories of her own experience with the visitors at Whitley Strieber's upstate New York cabin.
“One of them, Raven Dana, still with us in the world. And she has very, very vivid memories of her experience with these people. So in the house, in the cabin.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:07:24.1-00:07:36.6 hearsay second hand
2297
Whitley Strieber does not believe any of the witnesses at his upstate New York cabin saw the visitors engaging with him personally; they had their own encounters with the visitors.
“Ross Coulthart: there are like corroborative witnesses who say they saw non-human beings engaging with you. Whitley Strieber: Well, yeah, well, no, they engaged with them personally. and with me, but they didn't, did anyone see them engaging with me? No, I don't think so.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:07:39.4-00:08:01.0 testimony first hand
2298
Whitley Strieber is republishing Transformation because he sees a synergy between the UAP disclosure process and the visitors returning into people's lives.
“the reason I'm republishing it is this is expanding again, as there's some kind of synergy between the disclosure process and the beings coming back into coming into people's lives”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:10:11.3-00:10:24.8 opinion first hand
2299
Whitley Strieber's book Transformation names 31 witnesses, many of whom had experiences at his upstate New York cabin.
“in transformation, there are 31 witnesses named, many of whom had experiences at the cabin”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:10:31.0-00:10:36.5 measurement first hand
2300
During one night at Whitley Strieber's upstate New York cabin, a group of people in the living room all found themselves unable to move but able to talk, and saw dark figures capering around the room which they discussed with each other as it happened.
“everyone finds themselves unable to move, but not unable to talk in the middle of night. And these dark figures are capering around in the room that they can see, they can all see them and discuss them as this happens, but they cannot move off the beds they're on.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:11:07.6-00:11:25.0 hearsay second hand
2301
On the same night at Whitley Strieber's upstate New York cabin, two people sleeping in the basement woke and saw at the foot of the bed a friend of theirs who had died in the Mexico City earthquake of 1983.
“the two people who are there wake up and what do they see but standing at the foot of the bed, a friend of theirs who died in the mexico city earthquake of 1983”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:11:29.3-00:11:41.2 hearsay second hand
2302
Whitley Strieber believes there is a barrier between humans and another level of reality, and that when it is lifted there is a continuity of consciousness beyond the individual body.
“we have a barrier between ourselves and another level of reality that we do not see... The reality when that barrier is lifted is there is a continuity of consciousness”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:12:10.1-00:12:27.8 opinion first hand
2303
In 1987-01 Whitley Strieber had been going nightly to the clearing near his upstate New York cabin where the visitors first appeared, after asking them for a meeting.
“let's go to, I guess it was January of 1987. I had been asking them, meditating... down to this circle where they came first and the little grove or clearing where they came first nightly”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:13:09.0-00:13:28.8 testimony first hand
2304
Just before dawn on the morning of the January 1987 clearing encounter, Whitley Strieber heard a low mournful horn-like sound coming from the woods near his upstate New York cabin.
“just before dawn i heard what sounded like a very mournful kind of... a horn, like a chauffeur... that kind of a low, mournful sound coming from the woods”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:13:42.3-00:13:56.8 observation first hand
2305
From a hill above the clearing near his upstate New York cabin in January 1987, Whitley Strieber saw a dark object in the clearing with some figures standing in front of it.
“through the bare winter woods, I could see an object, a dark object in the clearing, and some figures standing in front of it”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:14:37.5-00:14:46.6 observation first hand
2306
During the January 1987 clearing encounter, Whitley Strieber heard a harsh voice in his head saying "come on, come on", which frightened him into turning back to the house.
“When I paused, I heard a voice in my head say, come on, come on. And it was so harsh. It scared me.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:14:55.5-00:15:05.8 testimony first hand
2307
Whitley Strieber turned back from the January 1987 clearing encounter because he feared he might not return and could not disappear on his wife and son.
“You better think about going home, back to the house, because you've got wife and son in there. You can't just disappear on them.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:15:12.3-00:15:18.0 testimony first hand
2308
Whitley Strieber links the fear he felt during the January 1987 clearing encounter to present-day reports of disappearances.
“Now, you know, fast forward to what's going on now with these disappearances. You can imagine how scary that is for me.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:15:19.5-00:15:24.2 opinion first hand
2309
As Whitley Strieber touched the doorknob returning to his upstate New York cabin during the January 1987 encounter, he heard three cries above the forest that sounded like disappointment and which he describes as not of this world.
“I hear three cries above the forest. These cries are unbelievable. They are, oh, oh, sounds of disappointment, but they're more than ordinary sounds. They're perfect... It's not even this world.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:15:44.7-00:16:01.2 observation first hand
2310
For a year after hearing the three cries in January 1987, classical music sounded muddy and indistinct to Whitley Strieber.
“it sounded for a year after hearing those three perfect sounds, it sounded muddy. The best classical music in the world sounded muddy and indistinct - for a year”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:16:20.0-00:16:31.4 testimony first hand
2311
Sitting on his bedside after returning to the house in January 1987, Whitley Strieber felt an invisible presence directly in front of him.
“something I can feel but not see is right in front of me. And it was really scary. It was a real presence.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:16:50.3-00:16:56.2 testimony first hand
2312
Whitley Strieber believes the visitors took his adult consciousness back into his infant body at the moment he first walked, breaking through childhood amnesia.
“I'm back in Texas in my baby body. And what is happening is they have taken my adult consciousness back to the moment I first walked... I broke through childhood amnesia and went back to that moment.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:17:49.7-00:18:17.2 testimony first hand
2313
Whitley Strieber interpreted the January 1987 regression to his first steps as a communication meaning that he had taken his first steps but was still a baby.
“It was a communication. The communication means you've taken your first steps, but you're still a baby.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:18:19.7-00:18:27.1 opinion first hand
2314
Whitley Strieber concluded from the January 1987 experience that the soul is something that collects every detail of a person's life.
“i realized that not only do i have a soul that it has something it is a something that collects Information that collects every detail of life”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:18:53.0-00:19:05.1 opinion first hand
2315
The inscription on the west wall of the Pyramid of Unas in Egypt is, in Whitley Strieber's account, the oldest surviving religious document.
“it is in the first religious document ever recorded it that we still have it is on the west wall of the pyramid of Unas in egypt thousands and thousands of years old older than any other religious document”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:19:38.6-00:19:54.0 opinion first hand
2316
The west wall inscription of the Pyramid of Unas is a set of instructions on how the pharaoh's soul should reach Orion after death, which the ancient Egyptians believed was where they came from.
“this is a set of instructions about how the pharoh after death how his sole could reach should reach orion to go back to orion which is where the egyptions believe they were from”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:19:55.1-00:20:07.5 testimony second hand
2317
The west wall inscription of the Pyramid of Unas describes the spine as a column or serpent of light surrounded by seven smaller serpents of light, which later became known as the chakras.
“it describes the spine as a column of light surrounded by seven small or serpent of light surrounded by seven smaller serpents of light which later became the chakras”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:20:11.4-00:20:24.2 testimony second hand
2318
In the west wall inscription of the Pyramid of Unas, the seven smaller serpents of light gather life experience and accelerate it into the spine, which passes it to the first level of the soul.
“these seven smaller serpents of light are gathering life experience and accelerating it into the spine which is then giving it to the first part level of the soul”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:20:25.7-00:20:39.1 testimony second hand
2319
Whitley Strieber considers the human body a mechanism that gathers experience on behalf of the soul.
“In other words, the body is a mechanism that gathers experience on behalf of the soul. And that is what we do here.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:20:41.2-00:20:49.1 opinion first hand
2320
The 42 Laws of Ma'at of the ancient Egyptians were a set of laws about how to live a good life which were consolidated into the Ten Commandments and later repeated in a different form by Jesus.
“the 42 laws of Ma'at of the ancient egyptians which were the set of laws about how to live a good life that were consolidated and became the 10 commandments and then were repeated in a different form by Jesus”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:21:12.9-00:21:27.8 opinion first hand
2321
Whitley Strieber regards the Didache as the best programme for living he has found, and says it was written by the apostles shortly after the death of Jesus by people who had known him personally.
“the best life program i have ever found is the Didache that was written by the apostles right after jesus died and these were people who had been exposed to him personally”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:21:37.2-00:21:50.7 opinion first hand
2322
Whitley Strieber lives his life according to the Didache.
“and that's what i do that's how i live life”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:22:01.8-00:22:03.3 testimony first hand
2323
Whitley Strieber has seen entities that were hungry in a way humans do not experience, and that wanted something of him very badly.
“I have seen things, Ross, that were hungry in ways that we don't experience... I've seen something that wanted something of me very, very badly.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:22:39.0-00:22:56.8 testimony first hand
2324
Whitley Strieber considers there is something predatory about the visitors, wanting human life experience that people would not want to give up.
“a big part of their reason for being here is that there's something predatory about them. There's something that they want of us that I don't think we necessarily want to give up. which is our life experience.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:23:11.4-00:23:22.2 opinion first hand
2325
Whitley Strieber agrees that cultural and mythological traditions about losing or surrendering one's soul to evil echo what he describes experiencing with the visitors.
“Ross Coulthart: do you think there's something in that cultural tradition that that is echoing what you're saying you're experiencing Whitley Strieber: well i think so i think that's exactly right i think this has been part of our world for a long time”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:24:10.7-00:24:22.8 opinion first hand
2326
Whitley Strieber believes souls are vulnerable, and that if a person abandons themselves the visitors will regard them as available.
“i think souls can be very vulnerable if they are if you abandon yourself they're going to look upon you as is available”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:24:23.8-00:24:31.1 opinion first hand
2327
Whitley Strieber has been taken out of his body by the visitors, the non-human beings he describes encountering.
“I've been taken out of my body by them.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:24:40.3-00:24:41.9 testimony first hand
2328
Whitley Strieber never met Robert Monroe, but attended a gateway programme at The Monroe Institute many years before 2026.
“I wish I could say I met Bob Monroe, Robert Monroe. briefly at the gateway I went to many years ago.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:24:42.1-00:24:51.7 testimony first hand
2329
While Whitley Strieber was writing Communion, people suggested to him that what happened to him may have been an out-of-body experience.
“Because everyone was saying to me, well, maybe what happened to you was an out-of-body experience.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:25:14.0-00:25:17.8 testimony first hand
2330
Whitley Strieber had not heard of an out-of-body experience until people suggested one as an explanation for what happened to him while he was writing Communion.
“I hadn't even heard of an out-of-body experience until then.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:25:18.2-00:25:20.6 testimony first hand
2331
While researching out-of-body experiences, Whitley Strieber came out of his body one night in what he described as a completely clean break.
“So I was researching it and I came out of my body one night and I, boy, it was remarkable. It was a completely clean break.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:25:21.4-00:25:30.1 testimony first hand
2332
During his out-of-body experience, Whitley Strieber moved around his bedroom, looked at his own body lying there with his wife Anne Strieber beside him, and moved through the wall and window into the front yard.
“And I moved around in the bedroom, looked at my body lying there, my wife beside me, moved through the wall and window into the front yard and moved around in the front yard a bit”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:25:41.6-00:25:55.2 testimony first hand
2333
Whitley Strieber had trouble returning to his body after his out-of-body experience because he kept slipping out of it.
“I had all kinds of trouble getting back into it because I kept slipping out of it.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:26:00.9-00:26:05.4 testimony first hand
2334
As a child Whitley Strieber hated the chore of mowing the lawn, and his father would start mowing himself if Whitley Strieber was late starting on a Saturday morning.
“The one thing I hated most when I was a kid was a chore mowing the lawn. I hated to do it. My dad would always, if I was late starting on a Saturday morning, he'd always go out there and start himself.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:26:09.7-00:26:20.5 testimony first hand
2335
Whitley Strieber returned instantly to his body during his out-of-body experience after seeing an apparition of his father in the front yard who asked when he was going to come and help.
“Then suddenly I'm in the front yard again. There's my dad. He looks up at me. He says, when are you going to come help me? I was back in my body in a second.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:26:38.2-00:26:47.5 testimony first hand
2336
Whitley Strieber was never able to leave his body deliberately again after that one out-of-body experience, and can only leave it when the visitors take him out.
“Okay, I never was able to get out like that again. I can only get out if they take me out.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:26:51.4-00:26:57.4 testimony first hand
2337
Whitley Strieber considers that the visitors are not here merely to see how human cell phones work and have plans of their own.
“Well, they're certainly not just here looking to see how our cell phones work and stuff. That's for sure. They have plans of their own.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:27:49.6-00:27:59.2 opinion first hand
2338
Whitley Strieber finds the phenomenon terrifying and overwhelming.
“it is terrifying and it's overwhelming”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:28:18.1-00:28:19.3 opinion first hand
2339
Whitley Strieber does not believe it is possible to know whether what he experiences with the visitors is real or whether he is being manipulated by them.
“You know, I would not ever argue that I could know that. I don't think it's possible to know that.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:29:26.9-00:29:32.0 opinion first hand
2340
Whitley Strieber describes an arc in his response to the visitors from initial terror to a present state in which he is not terrified but very wary.
“there's been an arc, Ross, from the initial terror to where I am now, which is I'm not terrified, but I'm very wary.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:29:40.5-00:29:51.8 testimony first hand
2341
Whitley Strieber has a working relationship with the visitors, of which his alleged implant is a big part.
“but I am also here and I do have a working relationship with them. This implant in here is a big part of it.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:30:00.5-00:30:09.4 testimony first hand
2342
Whitley Strieber considers his alleged implant the only physical anomalous thing he knows of in the public space that is provably anomalous.
“that implant is the only physical anomalous thing I know of in the public space that is provably anomalous.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:30:10.7-00:30:17.1 opinion first hand
2343
Ross Coulthart characterises what the non-human beings did to Whitley Strieber - coming to his home, planting implants, attempting to abduct his son, taking his sperm, inflicting wounds and severe trauma - as unfriendly by any definition.
“I find the whole idea of a non-human being coming to somebody's home, planting implants in them, as we'll get into abducting your son, doing, I think, terrible invasive things to you, you know, when you're in a cart, stealing your sperm, you've suffered wounds, you've suffered, I think, mental injuries as a result, trauma, severe trauma. By any definition, this is bloody unfriendly.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:30:29.9-00:30:57.8 opinion first hand
2344
Whitley Strieber considers the conduct of the visitors towards him very unfriendly.
“Ross Coulthart: By any definition, this is bloody unfriendly. Whitley Strieber: It's very unfriendly.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:30:55.1-00:31:00.4 opinion first hand
2345
Whitley Strieber considers there is nowhere to go and no way to stop the visitors, so he had no choice but to work out how to live with the experience and get something worthwhile from it for himself and his family.
“Where am I going to go? How am I going to stop it? The answer is there's nowhere to go and no way to stop it. Therefore, I had no choice but to try to figure out how do I live with this? How do I get from it something that's worthwhile to me and my family?”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:31:07.3-00:31:25.0 opinion first hand
2346
Whitley Strieber's family was also involved in the encounters with the visitors.
“Because my family was involved, too.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:31:25.6-00:31:27.0 testimony first hand
2347
Whitley Strieber considers that Anne Strieber had a much better grasp of the encounters with the visitors than he did.
“And Anne, I mean, Anne was much she had a much better grasp of it than I did, I think.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:31:28.1-00:31:36.2 opinion first hand
2348
In Transformation 2026 Whitley Strieber refers to having received communications from Anne Strieber since her death.
“in your Transformation 2026, you refer to the fact of something you've talked about previously, which is you've had communications from Anne since she passed, tragically. Whitley Strieber: Oh, yeah.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:31:38.9-00:31:49.8 testimony first hand
2349
Ross Coulthart considers that Anne Strieber, in her communications since her death, appears sympathetic to the idea that Whitley Strieber should engage with the visitors.
“And it appears she's sympathetic to the idea that you should engage with these beings, which suggests to me maybe they're not what we think they are.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:31:50.7-00:32:00.2 opinion first hand
2350
There is discussion about whether the visitors are humans from the future moving through time, with an assumption that if so they must come from the far future because of the way they look.
“there's a lot of discussion about whether or not they're moving something that's moving through time, that they're us in some way, come back from the future. And there's the assumption that, well, if they're us from the future, it must be from the far future because of the way they look.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:32:24.4-00:32:40.9 opinion
2351
The grandfather paradox holds that a time traveller cannot go back and kill their own grandfather.
“There's something called the grandfather paradox, which we mostly know about. You can't go back and kill your own grandfather”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:32:49.6-00:32:54.5 opinion
2352
Whitley Strieber considers that a time traveller going back into the past would have almost no freedom of action, because the timeline would stop them accomplishing anything.
“You have almost no freedom of action. Even if you could go back, you do not have much freedom of action because it's going to stop you from accomplishing anything.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:32:58.7-00:33:10.9 opinion first hand
2353
Whitley Strieber considers that an entity created in the future that never existed in the past - possibly a complex biological machine - could be sent back into the past with considerably more ability to function than a human time traveller.
“However, if you were to create an entity that didn't exist at all in the past, and it could be a complex biological machine and if you could send it back into the past it might have considerable amount more ability to function”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:33:12.4-00:33:37.4 opinion first hand
2354
Whitley Strieber considers that such an entity sent back into the past would probably not be in direct communication with those who created it.
“but it probably would not be in direct communication with you”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:33:38.4-00:33:41.9 opinion first hand
2355
Whitley Strieber considers that moving back into the past involves moving back to where the past was in the universe, and that in a block universe every moment still exists somewhere.
“because moving back into the past involves not only some magical change it involves moving back to where the past was in the universe you have to go back there and if this is a block universe it's still there every moment is still there somewhere”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:33:42.8-00:34:00.4 opinion first hand
2356
Whitley Strieber considers that beings sending biological robots back in time are trying to trick time into making changes that should not be possible.
“They're trying to cheat the ferryman. They're trying to cheat the timeline to trick. I should say they're trying to trick time into making changes that shouldn't be possible.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:35:06.6-00:35:23.0 opinion first hand
2357
Whitley Strieber considers that a great deal is changing, because vast numbers of people are now fixated on the phenomenon and trying to understand it, which was not true 50 years earlier.
“But I think there's actually a great deal changing. Because if you look at us now and us 50 years ago, vast numbers of us are now fixated on this and trying to understand it and trying to bring it into our lives. 50 years ago, that was not true.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:35:30.4-00:35:50.9 opinion first hand
2358
Whitley Strieber considers that if humanity catches up to the moment from which the time travellers first departed, a singularity will be reached and the government or someone will disclose that time travel exists.
“There's always going to be an element of a mirage until and if we reach the moment from which the time travelers first started back. If we catch up to that moment, then we reach a kind of singularity and we will all then immediately know it'll be in the form of someone, the government or someone disclosing that we have time travel.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:37:04.2-00:37:31.3 opinion first hand
2359
Whitley Strieber came to know Arthur Ernest Exon through his father's brother, not through his father.
“And it was not through my dad. It was through my dad's brother.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:38:04.9-00:38:07.4 testimony first hand
2360
Guy Hicks was the commanding officer at the air base from which Thomas F. Mantell flew up and crashed while attempting to shoot down a UFO.
“Colonel Guy Hicks, who was the commanding officer at the air base where Captain Mantell flew up and ended up crashing, attempting to to shoot down a UFO”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:38:15.0-00:38:29.8 administrative first hand
2361
Whitley Strieber considers Guy Hicks to have been the one person who knew what had really happened in the Thomas F. Mantell crash.
“he was the one person who knew what had really happened.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:38:31.1-00:38:34.0 opinion first hand
2362
Guy Hicks was cashiered and ended up living around the corner from the Strieber family.
“He was cashiered and he ends up living around the corner from us. And that was no accident.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:38:36.0-00:38:42.3 testimony first hand
2363
Whitley Strieber considers Guy Hicks living around the corner from his family was no accident and had something to do with his father and an FBI officer his father knew who lived across the street.
“And that was no accident. It had something to do with my dad and FBI officer, my dad knew who lived across the street.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:38:41.3-00:38:47.3 opinion first hand
2364
After Whitley Strieber published Communion, his uncle telephoned him saying he had asked for and received permission to talk to him about matters he thought Strieber should know.
“called me one day after I had published Communion and said he had received permission, had asked for and received permission, to talk to me about some things that he thought I should know about this stuff.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:38:56.5-00:39:08.3 testimony first hand
2365
Whitley Strieber's uncle had been at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in the late 1940s.
“all we knew about him was that he had been at Wright Patt Wright Field in those days, in the late 40s”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:39:10.5-00:39:16.5 administrative first hand
2366
Whitley Strieber's uncle was detailed to the Atomic Energy Commission for the rest of his career in the United States Air Force and was an intelligence officer of some kind.
“And then had been detailed to the Atomic Energy Commission for the rest of his life in the Air Force. And he was an intelligence officer of some kind.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:39:17.5-00:39:25.6 administrative first hand
2367
Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber travelled to Lackland Retirement Village and had lunch with Whitley Strieber's uncle and his wife.
“We went down to Lackland Retirement Village and had lunch with him and his wife.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:39:31.0-00:39:36.2 testimony first hand
2368
Whitley Strieber's uncle told him that he had been present when the Roswell debris was brought in, under Nathan F. Twining, and that he had examined the debris.
“And he told us that he had been there when the debris was brought in and under General Twining. And he had examined the debris”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:39:37.4-00:39:47.7 hearsay second hand
2369
Arthur Ernest Exon was a friend of Whitley Strieber's uncle and later became a general and commanding officer at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
“his friend Art Exon, who had then later become a general and become commanding officer at Wright-Patt”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:39:48.4-00:39:54.2 administrative first hand
2370
Arthur Ernest Exon told Whitley Strieber that in 1988 he was still going regularly to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base to brief staff there on matters discussed in the early days in classified off-the-record briefings he remembered.
“General Exon told me that in 1988, he was still going to Wright regularly to fill them in on things that had been discussed in the early days in pencils up meetings that he remembered.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:40:03.6-00:40:20.4 hearsay second hand
2371
Arthur Ernest Exon supposedly later developed Alzheimer's disease, but Whitley Strieber suspects he may not have and that the United States Air Force acted against him for talking too much.
“He later supposedly got Alzheimer's, but I think He may not have. I think the Air Force really went to town on him because he was talking too much.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:40:21.5-00:40:28.6 opinion first hand
2372
Whitley Strieber considers it a mistake that he introduced Arthur Ernest Exon to Stanton T. Friedman.
“I made the mistake of introducing him to Stanton Friedman”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:40:29.4-00:40:31.7 opinion first hand
2373
Arthur Ernest Exon told Whitley Strieber that debris and bodies were brought in following the 1947 Roswell crash.
“he told me that there was debris brought in and there were bodies brought in.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:40:43.6-00:40:50.3 hearsay second hand
2374
Arthur Ernest Exon told Whitley Strieber that he held one of the bodies recovered after the 1947 Roswell crash while it was inside a body bag, and did not see it.
“And he had held one of these bodies. It was inside a body bag. He said he didn't see it, but he held it.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:40:50.8-00:40:59.3 hearsay second hand
2375
Arthur Ernest Exon told Whitley Strieber that Nathan F. Twining and others did see the bodies recovered after the 1947 Roswell crash, although Exon himself did not.
“But he said that General Twining did see them and others saw them, but not him.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:40:59.9-00:41:04.2 hearsay second hand
2376
Arthur Ernest Exon told Whitley Strieber, in what Strieber gives as a direct quote, that everyone from Harry S. Truman on down knew that what had been found at Roswell was not of this world within 24 hours of the finding.
“And he said that he said, and this is a direct quote, everyone from Truman on down knew that what we found had found was not of this world within 24 hours of our findings.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:41:05.6-00:41:18.8 hearsay second hand
2377
Arthur Ernest Exon did not explain to Whitley Strieber anything about the motivations of the beings or why they were coming to Earth, and Strieber did not probe or press him because both Exon and Strieber's uncle were constrained by their security clearances.
“He did not, not to my knowledge, no. I didn't really question him. I really let him talk because he had a certain group of things he wanted to say to me. And I knew that they were both very constrained by their security clearances.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:41:44.9-00:41:59.8 testimony first hand
2378
Arthur Ernest Exon told Whitley Strieber that a scientist in the group held that if the public became aware of the phenomenon, it would enable the beings to come in on what Strieber describes as a tide of belief.
“He said something along the lines of there was a scientist in the group who thought that if we I asked, I did ask him about the secrecy. He thought that if the public became aware of this, it would enable these beings to come in on a He didn't say these words, he was no poet, but on a tide of belief is how I would describe what he was trying to say.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:43:31.7-00:43:58.2 hearsay third hand
2379
Whitley Strieber considers that if the visitors come from another reality, dimension or parallel universe, a critical mass of humans may have to believe they are as real as humans are before they can walk freely among us.
“if there's a certain if they're from another reality, another dimension or another parallel universe or something, it may be that a critical mass of us have to believe that they are as real as we are. before they can walk freely among us”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:44:02.6-00:44:21.7 opinion first hand
2380
Whitley Strieber considers that the door to the visitors lies in the mind, and once opened can never be closed, so whatever comes through will never leave unless it wishes to.
“if they that happens that door which is in the mind once opened can never be closed and whatever comes in will never leave unless it wishes to and that will become our world then”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:44:23.1-00:44:37.3 opinion first hand
2381
Neither Arthur Ernest Exon nor Whitley Strieber's uncle said whether the beings were malevolent or benevolent.
“They did not talk about, neither my uncle nor general excellently talked about that. In other words, they didn't say it was malevolent or malevolent.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:44:48.1-00:44:57.0 testimony first hand
2382
Whitley Strieber has a feeling that Arthur Ernest Exon and his uncle may have been told to communicate to him what they did.
“They were just communicating basically what I think, I have a feeling they may have been told to communicate to me.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:44:57.4-00:45:04.0 opinion first hand
2383
Ross Coulthart considers that a decision must have been made somewhere in the leadership, perhaps in the United States Air Force or the legacy programme, that Whitley Strieber needed a briefing after he published Communion in the 1980s.
“One assumes that a decision was made somewhere in the leadership, perhaps in the US Air Force or the legacy program, that you needed a briefing after you published communion in the 80s.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:45:17.7-00:45:27.2 opinion first hand
2384
Whitley Strieber considers that Communion opened a door in many minds because readers who saw the face on the cover recognised it and recalled the same thing happening to them.
“Communion opened that door in a lot of minds, that door that I was just talking about into this other world, because when people saw that face, they thought, oh, my God, I remember that. That happened to me.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:45:37.5-00:45:53.3 opinion first hand
2385
Whitley Strieber considers that people in the United States Air Force were shocked by the effect of Communion and did not expect it to happen.
“i think there were people in the air force were shocked by this and didn't expect it to happen”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:46:01.3-00:46:07.0 opinion first hand
2386
Instead of selling Communion in to bookshops in the normal way, the publisher shipped boxes of the book without warning to every bookstore in the United States.
“like the publisher instead of selling the book in which they would normally do with a book they just shipped the books without any warning to every bookstore in the United States in boxes and people open the boxes and there they were”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:46:10.6-00:46:26.4 testimony first hand
2387
Whitley Strieber considers that someone in the publishing company knew there would be resistance to Communion and that the book would be suppressed if they tried to sell it in normally.
“Because someone in the publishing company knew, apparently, that there would be resistance from somewhere if they try to sell in, the book would be suppressed. And how they knew that or who knew it, I don't know”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:46:29.7-00:46:44.3 opinion first hand
2388
At the time of publishing Communion, Whitley Strieber regarded the book as a fascinating one-off and was preparing to return to writing fiction.
“I, at that point, was looking at the book as a sort of a fascinating one-off. I was getting ready to go back to writing fiction.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:46:52.8-00:46:59.7 testimony first hand
2389
Whitley Strieber received thousands of letters after publishing Communion, 4,000 of which are archived at Rice University thanks to Anne Strieber's foresight.
“And then we get these thousands upon thousands of letters, 4,000 of which are now, thank God, archived at Rice University, thanks to Anne's foresight.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:47:09.5-00:47:19.2 testimony first hand
2390
Whitley Strieber considers that in publishing Communion he inadvertently opened a door a crack, and that this frightened people on the inside.
“And I perhaps inadvertently opened that door a crack. And I think that scared people on the inside.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:47:32.4-00:47:39.1 opinion first hand
2391
Neither Arthur Ernest Exon nor Whitley Strieber's uncle made any value judgement about Strieber having written Communion; they were totally neutral about it.
“No, they were totally neutral about it. I don't remember either of them making any kind of a value judgment about it at all.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:47:51.2-00:47:58.8 testimony first hand
2392
Critics have accused Whitley Strieber of blurring fiction and nonfiction in his books.
“a lot of people have taken a swipe at you because they say that you're blurring fiction and nonfiction”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:48:08.9-00:48:13.0 testimony
2393
Critics of the use of hypnosis in Whitley Strieber's accounts argue it takes the subject into a hypnagogic state and is an unreliable form of evidence used to substantiate things that are not real.
“there's also strong criticisms of the use of hypnosis because it's essentially taking you into a hypnagogic state and people charged that what that's doing is essentially using an unreliable form of evidence to substantiate things that aren't, allegedly aren't real”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:48:14.4-00:48:29.3 testimony
2394
Ross Coulthart considers Whitley Strieber a brilliant fiction writer.
“I'm fascinated because you are a brilliant fiction writer.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:48:40.4-00:48:43.6 opinion first hand
2395
Whitley Strieber's novel The Hunger was made into a film starring David Bowie.
“I loved The Hunger, which was made into that fantastic movie with David Bowie.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:48:44.1-00:48:47.8 administrative first hand
2396
Anne Strieber asked Whitley Strieber many times during their life together why he felt compelled to write his nonfiction accounts.
“Anne asked me that question any number of times in our life together.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:49:06.3-00:49:09.6 testimony first hand
2397
Whitley Strieber believes humanity is coming to a turning point in the human experience and that the phenomenon he writes about has something to do with it.
“I feel that we're coming to some kind of a turning point in the human experience and that this has something to do with it.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:49:12.8-00:49:23.4 opinion first hand
2398
Whitley Strieber considers himself a very efficient observer, and regards the stories in his books as a serious attempt by a human being to describe experiences that were real on some level.
“I am a very efficient observer. And these stories in these books, as weird as some of them are, represent a serious attempt on the part of a human being to describe real experiences that were very real on some level.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:49:34.9-00:49:52.8 opinion first hand
2399
Whitley Strieber believes a graduated kindling of human awareness must happen before the non-human beings he describes encountering can come into our world in a significant way.
“I think it might be more a graduated kindling of awareness that will has to happen before they can come into our world in a significant way.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:50:38.4-00:50:48.1 opinion first hand
2400
Stanton T. Friedman gave the name Majestic 12 to a committee, and the name may have originated with him.
“There was a committee that Stanton Friedman called the Majestic 12, and that may have even been his name. I don't know.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:50:56.5-00:51:02.6 testimony first hand
2401
Whitley Strieber believes the Majestic 12 committee almost certainly included a number of important scientists, one of whom would have been John von Neumann.
“On that committee, almost certainly were a number of important scientists, one of whom would have been a man named John von Neumann”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:51:03.8-00:51:12.0 opinion first hand
2402
John von Neumann was a physicist whom the press of the time called the smartest man in the world.
“a physicist called the, at the time, many of the, in the press would say he was the smartest man in the world”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:51:13.2-00:51:18.1 administrative first hand
2403
John von Neumann was a very early quantum physicist aware of the mysteries of the very small.
“He was also a very early quantum physicist and aware of quantum, the mysteries of the quantum of the very, very small.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:51:19.4-00:51:28.3 administrative first hand
2404
The smaller things get, the more indeterminate they become.
“When the smaller things get, the more indeterminate they become.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:51:30.0-00:51:32.8 testimony first hand
2405
From what Arthur Ernest Exon said to him, Whitley Strieber gained the impression - which he allows may be wrong - that someone on the Majestic 12 committee felt that the more people knew about the phenomenon, the more able the presence would be to come into our physical reality.
“Art Exon said to me, I gained the impression, and I may be wrong about this, that someone on that committee felt that there would come a, the more people knew about this, the more able this presence would be able to come into our physical reality.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:51:39.6-00:52:00.4 hearsay second hand
2406
On being told by Whitley Strieber of Arthur Ernest Exon's account, Anne Strieber responded that all the UFOs we see are like a military operation designed to make us assume they are as real as we assume ourselves to be.
“And when I told Anne that, she said, well, then the UFO, all the UFOs we see are like a military operation designed to make us assume that they are real as much as we assume we are real.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:52:01.9-00:52:16.3 opinion second hand
2407
Whitley Strieber believes UFO sightings and encounter experiences were silently building acceptance of the beings' presence in the minds of many people who had such experiences before his own.
“they were silently building in the minds of many people these having these experiences before I had mine. So that it would trigger more acceptance of their presence.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:52:26.9-00:52:39.4 opinion first hand
2408
Jimmy Carter apparently had the experience, as president, of asking the Department of Defense to tell the public the story about UFOs.
“you're Jimmy Carter, who apparently had this happen. Uh, and you say to the defense department, okay, I want to tell the story about the UFOs.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:52:49.5-00:53:00.6 hearsay first hand
2409
Whitley Strieber believes officials told the president that disclosing the UFO story would reach a tipping point that opens a door in the minds of the public which can never be closed, with no knowledge of what is on the other side until the beings are walking our streets.
“if we do that, we are going to reach a tipping point. And when we do, we open a door and they come in through that door and we can never close it again because that door is in the minds of the public. and we don't know what they are and what is on the other side of that door and we won't know until they are walking our streets”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:53:06.8-00:53:30.7 opinion first hand
2410
Whitley Strieber attributes Jimmy Carter's subsequent refusal to talk about UFOs to Carter having been told that presidential disclosure would be a trip wire.
“the result of that of course was he wouldn't even talk about it anymore if that if i'm right about what they're told”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:53:35.9-00:53:40.7 opinion first hand
2411
Whitley Strieber would be very interested to see whether Donald Trump makes a disclosure about the phenomenon.
“i'm would be very interested if Donald Trump actually does this”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:53:53.7-00:54:00.0 opinion first hand
2412
Whitley Strieber wrote Transformation 2026 in case a president announces in the Oval Office that the beings are real and have been known about for 80 years, which he believes would be the tripwire causing them to appear everywhere in our world.
“he sits down at the in the at the uh in the Oval Office and says okay they're here we've known it for 80 years they're real and that is the tripwire, and they start to appear everywhere in our world. That's why I wrote Transformation 2026 in case that happens”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:54:19.8-00:54:42.3 testimony first hand
2413
Whitley Strieber expects that if disclosure happens people will go into a complete tailspin and it will be the most shocking thing that has ever occurred.
“because if it does happen, people are going to go into a complete tailspin. It's going to be the most shocking thing that's ever occurred.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:54:43.4-00:54:49.8 opinion first hand
2414
Whitley Strieber expects the beings to become much more apparent in our world over the next few years.
“they're going to be much more apparent in our world over the next, say, few years.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:54:55.5-00:54:59.7 opinion first hand
2415
Whitley Strieber describes dealing with the beings as not easy but not impossible, saying he is still here and thriving in his life now.
“And all I can say is it's not easy, but it's not impossible either. I'm still here and I am thriving in my life now.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:55:06.0-00:55:14.8 testimony first hand
2416
Whitley Strieber has slept little his whole life.
“i don't sleep much i've never slept much since i was born”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:55:42.8-00:55:45.7 testimony first hand
2417
At the upstate New York cabin, Whitley Strieber spent much of most nights sitting outside his son Andrew Strieber's room with a shotgun on his lap.
“i was hanging out outside his room with a gun shotgun on my lap a lot of the night most nights when we were up there”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:55:50.5-00:55:58.0 testimony first hand
2418
Whitley Strieber was not sure his son Andrew Strieber was being visited by the beings, but did not want it to happen.
“Ross Coulthart: and then that's presumably because he was being visited by the beings you said? Whitley Strieber: i wasn't sure but i didn't want that to happen”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:55:59.8-00:56:06.5 testimony first hand
2419
One night Whitley Strieber went into his son Andrew Strieber's room and found him gone, and searched the whole house without finding him.
“one night i went in there and he was gone And I, I, I went running through the whole house. He wasn't in the house.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:56:07.8-00:56:15.0 observation first hand
2420
Andrew Strieber had a small clubhouse cabin in the copse at the end of the front yard of the upstate New York cabin.
“He had a little cabin a little clubhouse up in the, up in the little copes at the end of the front yard.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:56:17.6-00:56:23.9 observation first hand
2421
Andrew Strieber was seven years old at the time of the night he went missing from the upstate New York cabin.
“I can't imagine that a seven year old is going to go out there in the middle of the night”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:56:27.4-00:56:30.8 testimony first hand
2422
On rushing outside the upstate New York cabin that night, Whitley Strieber saw three dark, distant figures standing near the road beside the house.
“i rushed outside and i immediately saw three, three figures standing near the road which was beside our house.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:56:34.4-00:56:43.6 observation first hand
2423
During the night his son went missing, Whitley Strieber heard someone say to him, "do you need us to help you go back to bed?"
“And I heard someone say to me, do you need us to help you go back to bed?”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:56:44.7-00:56:48.7 observation first hand
2424
During the night his son went missing, Whitley Strieber saw a huge black shadow in the sky which later turned into a bright light.
“At which point I saw this huge black shadow in the sky. And it later turned into a bright light, but that's initially what I saw.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:56:49.8-00:57:01.0 observation first hand
2425
Whitley Strieber described the night his son Andrew Strieber was missing as unbelievably terrifying, likening it to being in hell as a desperate parent.
“And I went through if if if hell is desparate parent I was in hell. It was unbelievably terrifying.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:57:07.3-00:57:17.4 testimony first hand
2426
During the night his son went missing, Whitley Strieber also saw three men in blue uniforms who looked compassionate, and confirmed they were human.
“there were these men in these blue uniforms there that looked very compassionate, actually. Ross Coulthart: They were humans, weren't they? Whitley Strieber: Yeah, these three men were.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:57:28.8-00:57:38.0 observation first hand
2427
The three men in blue uniforms got Whitley Strieber back into the upstate New York cabin, where he found his son Andrew Strieber in bed.
“They got me back into the house and there he was in the bed.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:57:45.6-00:57:50.3 observation first hand
2428
Whitley Strieber did not sleep after the night his son went missing and told Anne Strieber the whole story in the morning, saying he had no idea what if anything had actually happened.
“So I went back to bed and I went to, I didn't sleep of course. And I, in the morning I told Anne the whole story and she said, I said, I have no idea what, what if anything actually happened?”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:57:57.1-00:58:10.1 testimony first hand
2429
Anne Strieber proposed saying nothing to their son Andrew Strieber about the night and seeing what he said of his own accord.
“And she said, well, let's, let's not say anything to him and see what he says.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:58:11.0-00:58:13.7 testimony second hand
2430
The morning after the encounter, Andrew Strieber was very quiet at breakfast, then wrote something in his room and silently gave it to his mother Anne Strieber after breakfast.
“He was very quiet at breakfast. He wrote something in his room, sat down and wrote it, and silently gave it to his mother after breakfast.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:58:37.4-00:58:46.4 observation first hand
2431
Whitley Strieber thought for years that Andrew Strieber's note had been lost, but Anne Strieber had kept it without his knowing, and his recent rediscovery of it was one of the things that made him decide to write his new book.
“And for years, I thought we'd lost it. is one of the things that made me decide to write the new book, was I found this. She had kept it, and I didn't realize she had.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:58:48.5-00:59:00.0 testimony first hand
2432
Andrew Strieber's note written the morning after his encounter reads: "O thy colossus, thy stand before me with a twinkling of a beam against the thin pane to see the world along the edge of the earth to see the golden beam in their eyes".
“"O thy colossus, thy stand before me with a twinkling of a beam against the thin pane to see the world along the edge of the earth to see the golden beam in their eyes".”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:59:07.2-00:59:24.9 testimony second hand
2433
Whitley Strieber regards Andrew Strieber's note as a seven-year-old mind reaching as far as it can to express an incredible wonder.
“that is what that is, is a seven-year-old mind reaching as far as it can into anything it can manage to say to express an incredible wonder.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:59:37.8-00:59:53.6 opinion first hand
2434
Andrew Strieber is no longer having encounter experiences and does not remember anything about that aspect of his childhood.
“No, they're not. And he doesn't remember anything about his childhood of this stuff.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:00:05.4-01:00:10.1 testimony first hand
2435
Whitley Strieber read Andrew Strieber's note back to him; Andrew Strieber does not remember writing it, though it is in his handwriting and there is no question he wrote it.
“I read this to him. He doesn't remember writing it, but it's in his handwriting. There's no question that he did write it.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:00:11.1-01:00:16.5 testimony first hand
2436
Whitley Strieber had extensive encounter experiences as a child but by the age of 20 retained no memory of them whatsoever.
“I had extensive experiences as a child, but by the time I was 20, I didn't have any memory of them whatsoever.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:00:27.4-01:00:33.5 testimony first hand
2437
Sensory impressions collected by the brain from the eyes, nose, mouth and skin move through the hippocampus and are then distributed into the brain's filing system in the amygdala.
“those impressions move through a part of the brain called the hippocampus and are then distributed into the brain's filing system, essentially into the amygdala.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:00:46.4-01:00:56.2 testimony first hand
2438
Impressions that are not connected to anything hang in the brain's filing system and are gradually pushed back into it, still existing but inaccessible.
“And if they are not connected to anything, they will hang there in the filing system and gradually just sort of be pushed back into it. And they still exist. But you don't have no access to them.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:00:57.9-01:01:16.1 testimony first hand
2439
Under hypnosis with Donald Klein, Whitley Strieber's voice changed without his being aware of it, and when asked how old he was he heard himself answer "12" in his childhood Texas accent.
“This was why when Don Klein was under hypnosis with him, my voice changed. I wasn't aware of it. And he suddenly said, how old are you? And I was astonished to hear my voice come out in my little 12-year-old Texas accent. I said, 12?”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:01:16.2-01:01:36.8 testimony first hand
2440
The hypnosis session with Donald Klein was one of the most shocking moments of Whitley Strieber's life and opened him to the fact that the phenomenon had been in his life as a child, which he did not know until after his abduction experience.
“It was one of the most shocking moments of my life. And that opened me up to the fact that this had been in my life when I was a child. I did not know that until after the abduction experience.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:01:39.5-01:01:50.4 testimony first hand
2441
Whitley Strieber believes Andrew Strieber could probably retrieve his lost childhood memories with a skilled professional knowledgeable in neurology, psychiatry and the scientific basis of hypnosis.
“I suppose that if he wanted to, he could probably retrieve those memories with assuming we could find a skilled professional. who really knew what they were doing with the brain. And you have to have someone who is knowledgeable about neurology, psychology, I mean psychiatry, and understands hypnosis on a scientific level.”
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2442
Whitley Strieber considers professionals skilled in scientific hypnosis to exist but to be few outside the intelligence community.
“There are such people, but there are not too many of them outside of the intelligence community.”
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2443
Whitley Strieber's encounter in which he stood on a hill in dressing gown and slippers looking down at a craft, with a voice in his head urging him to come, occurred in January or early February 1987.
“Ross Coulthart: so when you had that moment on the hill and you're dressing gown and slippers and you're looking down at that craft and there's a voice in your head urging you to come what year was that was that late 80s? Whitley Strieber: no that was uh uh january or early february of 1987.”
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2444
Whitley Strieber only learned of the disappearance of Joseph Helt many years after it happened.
“i didn't find this out until many years later because it was not something you know it didn't reach my ears”
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2445
On 1987-01-31, a young man, Joseph Helt, and his friends became stuck in their car near Sam's Point Ice Caves at Ellenville, New York.
“on December uh January the 31st 1987 a young boy uh was they he had he and his friends had gotten stuck in their car ... Joseph Hilt near Sam's Point Ice Caves in Ellensville New York”
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2446
The site of Joseph Helt's disappearance is a few miles south of Whitley Strieber's former upstate New York cabin, which still stands although he no longer owns it.
“that's a few miles south of where our cabin was is i mean it's still there we just don't own it anymore”
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2447
Joseph Helt disappeared and has never been found.
“he disappeared from the face of the earth and has never been found”
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2448
Joseph Helt's walk for help would not have taken him past Whitley Strieber's upstate New York cabin, as the route was south of it.
“Ross Coulthart: Would that walk have taken him past where you are? Whitley Strieber: No, it would not have. It was south of us.”
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2449
Whitley Strieber has recently speculated that Joseph Helt's January 1987 disappearance may be connected to the attempt to encourage Strieber to come out to the craft that night.
“Ross Coulthart: You've speculated, haven't you, that Joseph Helt's longstanding disappearance in January 1987 may be connected to the attempt to encourage you to go that night? Whitley Strieber: I've recently speculated that, yeah”
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2450
Whitley Strieber considers the stories of disappeared scientists to be blown out of proportion on the internet, while regarding some of them as very mysterious.
“it's being blown out of proportion on the Internet about these disappeared scientists and so forth. But some of those stories are very mysterious.”
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2451
Whitley Strieber considers the stories of Jamshid Reza and General William McCasland very mysterious.
“The story of Reza and General McCasland are very, very mysterious.”
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2452
Whitley Strieber found the Joseph Helt case by searching online and with artificial intelligence tools for missing-persons cases, prompted by a memory that there had been such a case in his area, and then sent a note about it to Ross Coulthart.
“I was Googling or looking in AI or somewhere about missing persons cases, because I had somewhere in the back of my mind a memory that there had been a missing persons case in our area. And I found that's when I found that and sent you that note.”
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2453
Whitley Strieber has recently wondered whether the beings, having failed to take him, needed to go back with somebody and so took Joseph Helt.
“i thought what if they didn't get me and they had to go back with somebody so they took him”
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2454
Whitley Strieber believes the worldwide drone and object incidents must be the phenomenon acting on human consciousness, because there are too many of them in too many different parts of the world to be generated by a power on our level of reality.
“I think they must be, and I'm not quite sure what's going on, but the reason I think they must be is there are simply too many of them, too many incidents in too many different parts of the world for this to be identifiable as something being generated by a power on our level of reality.”
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2455
Objects hovered over and passed over Langley Air Force Base for weeks and weeks and nothing could be done about it.
“What happened at Langley Air Force Base? My God, weeks and weeks of these things hovering over and going over one of the most sensitive air bases in the United States ... And they couldn't do a thing about it.”
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2456
Langley Air Force Base is one of the most sensitive air bases in the United States on the Pentagon's roster of air bases.
“one of the most sensitive air bases in the United States and the whole Pentagon's whole roster of air bases”
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2457
Whitley Strieber does not believe the objects over Langley Air Force Base were Russian.
“That wasn't the Russians.”
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2458
Whitley Strieber believes those who know about the phenomenon are afraid that if it comes out it will open a door in the mind of the human species that can never be closed, and afraid of what might come through it, and he does not blame them.
“I think that they are afraid that if it comes out, it's basically going to open that door in the mind of the human species and it can never be closed again. And they don't, they're afraid of what might come through that door and I don't blame them.”
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2459
Immediately after sensing the presence in January 1987, Whitley Strieber found himself gliding in what he recognised as his mother's office in the old family house in San Antonio, Texas, where he lived as a baby.
“I'm not in the bedroom anymore... And I'm kind of gliding... This is my mother's office. which was there in the old house in San Antonio when I was a baby.”
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Whitley Strieber regards the beings as very complex, expecting many different reactions and motives from them, by analogy with how humans arriving on another world would show a mixture of malevolence, helpfulness and theft.
“I think it's very, very complex because if we went to another world, all of us, there would be a malevolence there too. ... we can safely say that these beings, whoever or whatever they are, are going to be very complex, and we can expect a whole lot of different reactions from them in different motives.”
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Whitley Strieber believes the visitors want something from humans that may have to do with human souls and the experiences gathered by them, and that they cannot obtain it themselves.
“There's something they want here. And I think it might have something to do with these souls... I think it had to do with the experiences gathered by my soul. I think they, for some reason, they can't get that.”
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