Brief
Vatican City
The claims the writer was given for Vatican City, in the order they were given.
1
D. W. Pasulka observed that Tyler D. was known to members of the Vatican once he became visible to Vatican Secret Archives staff.
“Tyler became, at that point, visible, at least to those at the Vatican Secret Archives. And his visibility provided access. Apparently, Tyler was known to members of the Vatican.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch7:11250-11420 opinion first hand
2
Father McDonnell was known by seemingly everyone at the Vatican and had access to its every nook and cranny.
“It turned out that Father McDonnell was a special person, known by seemingly everyone at the Vatican, and had access to its every nook and cranny.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch7:12052-12191 observation first hand
3
Father McDonnell blessed the research project of D. W. Pasulka and Tyler D. in the courtyard of the Vatican.
“Tyler told me later how, in the courtyard of the Vatican, with the sun streaming down on them, Father McDonnell had blessed our project.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch7:12573-12701 testimony second hand
4
The Vatican has traditionally been protected by the Swiss Guards, mercenaries trained by the Swiss Armed Forces, who are placed in strategic positions around the Vatican and wear colourful attire with swords.
“The Vatican has traditionally been protected by the Swiss Guards, mercenaries who are trained by the Swiss Armed Forces. In their colorful attire, outfitted with swords, they are placed in strategic positions around the Vatican.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch7:13901-14121 administrative
5
D. W. Pasulka observed that the ceremonial Swiss Guards do not appear to provide real security and seem present mainly for the benefit of tourists who photograph them.
“They don’t appear to provide any type of security. Their presence seems to be more for the benefit of the constant lines of tourists who circle the Vatican and stop for photographs.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch7:14130-14299 opinion first hand
6
The Vatican's real security guards wore camouflage uniforms and carried automatic-looking weapons.
“The real guards wore camouflage uniforms and carried very big guns, which looked like automatic weapons.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch7:14312-14408 observation first hand
7
Tyler D. offered a Vatican guard a cafe latte, and the guard replied "no".
“Against my counsel, Tyler asked one if he would like to have a cafe latte, to which the guard replied with a steely “no.””
American Cosmic 2019 ch7:14489-14606 observation first hand
8
Tyler D. had met Father McDonnell at the Vatican, which led to Tyler D. and Diana Pasulka being invited to attend several important meetings there.
“I understood that I was lucky that Tyler had met Father McDonnell and that we were then invited to attend several important meetings, but this was only because of Tyler’s access.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch7:23533-23704 observation first hand
9
Tyler D.'s understanding of the 'beings' was transformed by his encounter with Sister Maria of Agreda's alleged bilocations, information about levitations of other saints and apparitions of the Virgin Mary, hospital rounds with Father McDonnell, and insights from scientists at the Vatican and Vatican Observatory.
“That night, Tyler admitted that his understanding of the “beings” was being transformed by his experiences. His encounter with Sister Maria and her alleged bilocations... coupled with what he had felt while making hospital rounds with Father McDonnell, and then the insights he gathered from the other scientists at the Vatican and the Vatican Observatory, shifted his interpretive structure with respect to what he thought might be extraterrestrials.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch7:38963-39499 testimony first hand
10
Tyler D.'s religious conversion happened dramatically and rapidly during his visit to the Vatican and the observatory at Castel Gandolfo, Italy.
“Tyler’s experience was an accelerated version that happened dramatically during his visit to the Vatican and the observatory at Castel Gandolfo.”
American Cosmic 2019 ch7:8250-8385 observation first hand
11
The Vatican tried Galileo Galilei and put him under house arrest for his conclusion that celestial bodies did not orbit the Earth.
“They wanted to suppress this whistleblower. They tried him and put him in house arrest.”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:39:50.3-00:39:55.5 observation
12
In 1992 the Catholic Church released a public statement admitting that Galileo Galilei was right and the Church had been wrong.
“eventually in 1992, the church released a public statement admitting that He was right and they were wrong.”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:39:58.5-00:40:04.6 observation
13
Avi Loeb notes that nobody imprisoned the Vatican bureaucracy for hiding existential information about Galileo Galilei's findings from the public.
“nobody put the bureaucracy of the church, of the Vatican, in jail for hiding existential information from the public, right?”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:40:15.7-00:40:27.3 opinion first hand
14
Diana Walsh Pasulka has spoken about access to the Vatican archives and went there with Tim Taylor, hinting that the Holy See knows much more than is apparent.
“And then you have Pasulka talking about access to the Vatican archives and, you know, her going with Tim Taylor and hinting that they know much more than meets the eye.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:05:33.0-01:05:42.3 hearsay second hand
15
Once a year, within the grounds of Vatican City, a UFO research group meets and discusses historical unidentified flying object material, at a location Jesse Michels renders in rough translation as St Anne's Cathedral.
“And they have in, I think it's like the rough translation is like St. Anne's Cathedral. There's once a year within the grounds of the Vatican, there is a UFO research group that meets up and discusses this old stuff.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:06:18.1-01:06:32.6 testimony first hand
16
Jesse Michels attended an interdisciplinary faith event inside the Vatican, to which he was invited.
“i'm in the Vatican as part of this like you know event it's like some like interdisciplinary faith thing or whatever that i was invited”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:06:47.9-01:06:56.6 testimony first hand
17
Jesse Michels gained access to the Vatican event through a person who contacted him around the time of his Peru mummies documentary and who was connected with Kirsan Ilyumzhinov.
“So this dude that reached out around my Peru mummies dock was connected with Kirsan Ilyumzhinov.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:06:58.5-01:07:05.0 testimony first hand
18
Kirsan Ilyumzhinov attended an interfaith event at the Vatican with representatives of many religions present.
“he had this invite to this Vatican event or whatever and it was like faiths of all you know it was like every religion or whatever representatives would go or whatever and Kirsan was there”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:09:11.1-01:09:20.6 observation first hand
19
At the Vatican interfaith event, Kirsan Ilyumzhinov brought a large chess piece that he intended to give to the Pope.
“Kirsan was there and he had this big chess piece that he wanted to give to the pope”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:09:20.0-01:09:22.9 observation first hand
20
At the Vatican interfaith event attended by Jesse Michels, the Pope left without engaging with attendees and did not accept the chess piece from Kirsan Ilyumzhinov.
“the pope ended up like kind of scurrying off ... No, he didn't, like, engage with anybody.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:09:24.0-01:09:25.6 observation first hand
21
Kirsan Ilyumzhinov gave the chess piece to a senior cleric at the Vatican event as a representative of the Pope, in Jesse Michels's presence.
“And he gives him the chess piece because he's a representative of the Pope.”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:10:01.2-01:10:03.4 observation first hand
22
Jesse Michels shook hands at the Vatican event with a man he was afterwards told by another attendee was the Cardinal Secretary of State of the Holy See.
“He goes, that was the cardinal secretary of state, which is the number two to the pope”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:10:12.2-01:10:18.1 testimony second hand
23
A week or two after the Vatican interfaith event, Jesse Michels learned from an unstated source that the Cardinal Secretary of State of the Holy See had in certain instances expressed an interest in UFOs.
“then I find out a week or two later that in certain instances, he's expressed interest in UFOs”
Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:10:42.2-01:10:49.1 hearsay