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Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP)

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The focus of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program study was much broader than the military-only encounters investigated by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.
“And the focus of the study was much broader than the military-only encounters investigated by AATIP.”
Statement to Congress char:10069-10163 administrative first hand
2
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program was likely the largest UFO study ever conducted with government funds.
“It was likely the largest UFO study ever conducted with the use of government funds.”
Statement to Congress char:10277-10355 opinion first hand
3
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program began in September 2008 and quickly ramped up.
“It began in Sept. 2008 and quickly ramped up.”
Statement to Congress char:10362-10404 administrative first hand
4
At one point, the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program employed 50 full-time investigators, far more than Project Blue Book, the Unidentified Aerospace Phenomena Task Force, or the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office.
“At one point, it employed 50 full time investigators, far more than Project Blue Book or the UAP Task Force, or AARO.”
Statement to Congress char:10408-10520 measurement first hand
5
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program team compiled what might be the largest and most sophisticated UFO data warehouse ever created, with more than 200,000 cases catalogued.
“The team compiled what might be the largest and most sophisticated UFO data warehouse ever created, with more than 200,000 cases catalogued.”
Statement to Congress char:10526-10655 measurement first hand
6
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program database included reports from civilian organisations and foreign governments, as well as new investigations conducted by boots-on-the-ground teams dispatched by the programme's manager in Las Vegas, Dr. Colm Kelleher.
“The data base included reports from civilian organizations and foreign governments, as well as new investigations conducted by boots-on-the ground teams dispatched by AAWSAP's manager in Las Vegas, Dr. Colm Kelleher.”
Statement to Congress char:10667-10874 administrative first hand
7
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program produced more than 100 highly detailed research papers, many of them more than 100 pages long.
“It was an astonishing effort that also produced more than 100 highly detailed research papers, many of them more than 100 pages long.”
Statement to Congress char:10884-11012 measurement first hand
8
The very first case investigated by the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program was the 2004 USS Nimitz Tic Tac UAP incident.
“The very first case investigated by AAWSAP was the Tic Tac incident from 2004.”
Statement to Congress char:11018-11091 administrative first hand
9
Neither Congress nor the public has ever seen the 140-page Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program Tic Tac report or any of the other 100-plus research papers it produced.
“Neither Congress nor the public has ever seen the Tic Tac report or any of the other 100-plus research papers.”
Statement to Congress char:11316-11419 administrative first hand
10
Managers of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program believed the exotic materials studied under the programme were collected from sites where unknown aircraft had crashed.
“AAWSAP managers believe these materials were collected from sites where unknown aircraft had crashed.”
Statement to Congress char:11754-11847 opinion second hand
11
When James Lacatski pressed for access to the exotic materials studied under the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program, he was met with harsh rebukes and the door was slammed in his face.
“When Dr. Lacatski began pressing the issue, seeking access to the exotic materials, he was met with harsh rebukes. The door, in essence, was slammed in his face.”
Statement to Congress char:11856-12036 hearsay second hand
12
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program lasted only 27 months before it was ended, rather than the five-year operation planned by the Defense Intelligence Agency.
“It lasted a mere 27 months before the plug was pulled, instead of a five year operation as planned by DIA.”
Statement to Congress char:12104-12206 administrative first hand
13
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program investigated a wider range of phenomena than mystery craft seen in the sky, including some encounters reported by intelligence operatives that were downright weird.
“AAWSAP investigated a wider range of phenomena than mystery craft seen in the sky. Some of the encounters reported by intelligence operatives were downright weird.”
Statement to Congress char:12212-12369 administrative first hand
14
Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program personnel suspected that sightings of unusual creatures and bizarre phenomena near UFO activity might be an unintentional side effect of a technology seemingly beyond anything currently possessed.
“AAWSAP personnel suspected that the sighting of weird creatures and bizarre phenomena in the proximity of UFO activity might be some sort of unintentional side effect of a technology that is seemingly beyond anything we currently possess.”
Statement to Congress char:12376-12606 opinion second hand
15
After the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program ended, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was created from its remnants.
“After AAWSAP ended, AATIP was created from its ashes.”
Statement to Congress char:13090-13137 administrative first hand
16
The programme funded by Harry Reid's 22 million US dollars was dubbed the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program.
“The original program was dubbed AAWSAP, the Advanced Weapons System Application program.”
Statement to Congress char:9748-9828 administrative first hand
17
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program was initiated and managed for the Defense Intelligence Agency by veteran intelligence analyst and rocket expert Dr. James Lacatski.
“The man who initiated and managed the program for DIA was a veteran intelligence analyst and rocket expert named Dr. James Lacatski.”
Statement to Congress char:9837-9960 administrative first hand
18
The contract for the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program was awarded to a subsidiary of Bigelow Aerospace, owned by Robert Bigelow.
“The contract for AAWSAP was awarded to a subsidiary of Bigelow Aerospace, owned by Robert Bigelow.”
Statement to Congress char:9970-10060 administrative first hand
19
As an Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) Contractor and Senior Advisor, Hal Puthoff continued to attend meetings, provide briefings, gain access to videos, provide Proposed Program Plans, and meet with staff, all under the aegis of Luis Elizondo's leadership and responsibility for maintaining continuity of the program effort and goals until Elizondo resigned.
“I have no problem asserting that as an AAWSAP [Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program]/AATIP Contractor & Senior Advisor I continued to attend meetings, provide briefings, gain access to videos, provide Proposed Program Plans, meet with staff, etc., all under the aegis of Elizondo’s leadership and responsibility for maintaining continuity of the Program effort and goals until he resigned.”
Pentagon Reinforces Mr. Luis Elizondo Had “No Responsibilities” on AATIP; Senator Harry Reid’s 2009 Memo Changes Nothing 2019-06-14 char:6307-6705 testimony first hand
20
It is unclear how Hal Puthoff could have worked under Luis Elizondo's leadership given that AAWSAP/AATIP contracted work began in 2008 at the Defense Intelligence Agency while Elizondo's alleged leadership began in 2010 at OUSDI.
“It is unclear how Dr. Puthoff could have worked under Mr. Elizondo’s leadership, since AAWSAP/AATIP contracted work began in 2008 at DIA and Mr. Elizondo’s alleged leadership began in 2010 at OUSDI when the program was transferred.”
Pentagon Reinforces Mr. Luis Elizondo Had “No Responsibilities” on AATIP; Senator Harry Reid’s 2009 Memo Changes Nothing 2019-06-14 char:6717-7036 opinion
21
Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) contracted work began in 2008 at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).
“AAWSAP/AATIP contracted work began in 2008 at DIA”
Pentagon Reinforces Mr. Luis Elizondo Had “No Responsibilities” on AATIP; Senator Harry Reid’s 2009 Memo Changes Nothing 2019-06-14 char:6804-6843 administrative
22
Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies, LLC initially won the contract for the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) work.
“the contracted work by Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies, LLC. who initially won the contract”
Pentagon Reinforces Mr. Luis Elizondo Had “No Responsibilities” on AATIP; Senator Harry Reid’s 2009 Memo Changes Nothing 2019-06-14 char:7289-7381 administrative
23
Funding for the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) contracted work was cut entirely in 2012.
“or after the 2012 date when funding was cut entirely”
Pentagon Reinforces Mr. Luis Elizondo Had “No Responsibilities” on AATIP; Senator Harry Reid’s 2009 Memo Changes Nothing 2019-06-14 char:7418-7462 administrative
24
The Defense Intelligence Agency's Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) investigation was given an extra $12 million in 2010 appropriations to produce a dozen more reports.
“We now know that the Defence Intelligence Agency's Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) investigation was given an extra US$12 million in 2010 appropriations to produce a dozen more reports.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:19170-19407 administrative
25
A 2009 Pentagon review determined that the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) reports were of limited value and recommended that upon completion of the contract the project be passed to an agency better suited to oversee it.
“But a 2009 Pentagon review determined the reports were of limited value, recommending that upon completion of the contract the project be passed to an agency better suited to oversee it.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:19416-19599 administrative
26
The Bigelow team's Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) investigations began in late 2008 and reportedly ended in 2012.
“The Bigelow team's investigations began in late 2008 and reportedly ended in 2012.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:19605-19682 administrative
27
The Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) was only funded for two years, receiving $10 million in its first year and $12 million in its second year, a total of $22 million.
“There is some uncertainty about this because AAWSAP was only funded for two years – $10 million in its first year and $12 million in its second year, a total of $22 million.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:19688-19853 administrative
28
Most of the Bigelow Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) team were terminated by mid-2010.
“Most of the Bigelow team were terminated by mid-2010.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:19862-19910 administrative
29
The Bigelow team's UAP investigations began before the Defense Intelligence Agency funding arrived in July 2008, when Harry Reid guaranteed the black budget funding for the program that became known as AAWSAP, the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program.
“Their UAP investigations began even before the Defence Intelligence Agency money came through in July 2008, when Senator Reid guaranteed the black budget funding for what was to become known by its clunky acronym, AAWSAP. The full title was a mouthful, no doubt intended to be as opaque as possible since this was a secret 'black' UAP investigation program hidden in plain sight on the Pentagon books. AAWSAP stood for the 'Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program'.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:7865-8337 administrative
30
An invitation to tender for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) contract was issued by the Defense Intelligence Agency in August 2008 and Robert Bigelow was the sole bidder, securing $10 million funding for the first year with a five-year option.
“An invitation to tender for the contract was issued by the Defence Intelligence Agency in August 2008 and Bigelow was the sole bidder, securing $10 million funding for the first year, with a five-year option for the contract.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:8347-8563 administrative
31
From the very beginning, the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) investigation was intended to assess 'threats' to the United States without ever articulating what those threats were meant to be.
“What sticks out like a sore thumb in all that has been written about the investigation is that, from the very beginning, it was intended to assess what it described as 'threats' to the United States, without ever articulating what those supposed threats were meant to be.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:8574-8842 administrative
32
Much of the work on the Advanced Aerospace Weapons Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) was carried out under a different project name, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), which was funded from the same budget.
“Much of the work was done under a different project name – AATIP, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program – which was funded from the same budget.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:8846-8998 administrative
33
After joining the Office of the Under-Secretary of Defence for Intelligence and Security, Luis Elizondo was tasked to join the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“Soon after joining OUSDI, Elizondo was tasked to join a special program described by a deliberately dull-sounding military acronym, AAWSAP, the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program.”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:12081-12271 administrative
34
Senator Harry Reid's Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program funding from Congress ran out in 2012.
“While Senator Harry Reid's AAWSAP funding from Congress ran out in 2012”
In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:12644-12711 administrative
35
The United States Department of Defense (DoD) did not officially look at Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) again until mid-2000, when select members of United States Congress initiated and funded the Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) to study UAP, under the direction of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).
“The DoD did not officially look at UAP again until mid-2000, when select members of Congress initiated and funded a program to study UAP, called the Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Applications program, under the direction of the Defense Intelligence Agency.”
Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:1813-2066 administrative
36
The proposed lines of effort for the KONA BLUE program closely mirrored those conducted by a private sector organisation for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“The proposed KONA BLUE lines of effort closely mirrored those conducted by the private sector organization for AAWSAP/AATIP.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:100805-100923 administrative
37
The assumption that extraterrestrial craft or bodies had been collected was the same assumption made by individuals involved with the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) program.
“This was the same assumption made by those same individuals involved with the AAWSAP/AATIP program.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:102223-102314 administrative
38
The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) determined that modern allegations that the United States Government is hiding off-world technology and beings largely originate from the same group of individuals who have ties to the cancelled Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) program and a private sector organisation's paranormal research efforts.
“It has determined that modern allegations that the USG is hiding off-world technology and beings largely originate from the same group of individuals who have ties to the cancelled AAWSAP/AATIP program and a private sector organization's paranormal research efforts.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:104114-104372 administrative first hand
39
Persons 1 and 3 and Interviewees 1, 3, and 12 were involved with paranormal research conducted under the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Persons 1 and 3 and Interviewees 1, 3, and 12 were involved with the paranormal research conducted under AAWSAP/AATIP.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:104764-104876 administrative second hand
40
The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office divides the historical context of UAP investigations into a pre-2009 era and a post-2009 modern era because 2009 is the year of the standup of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program and Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program efforts.
“These periods are divided into pre- and post-2009 timeframe because this is the year of the standup of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) and Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) efforts.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:14087-14318 administrative first hand
41
Prior to the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program and Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, there was about a 40-year gap in UAP investigation programmes since the termination of Project BLUE BOOK in 1969.
“Prior to AAWSAP/AATIP there was about a 40 year gap in UAP investigation programs since the termination of Project BLUE BOOK in 1969.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:14327-14455 administrative first hand
42
In coordination with the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, the Defense Intelligence Agency established the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) in 2009, which was also known as the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“In coordination with the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, DIA established AAWSAP in 2009, which was also known AATIP.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:59232-59369 administrative
43
The contract for the Defense Intelligence Agency-managed Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program was awarded to a private sector organisation.
“The contract for this DIA-managed program was awarded to a private sector organization.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:59376-59450 administrative
44
Unlike the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was never an official Department of Defense programme; after the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program was cancelled, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program name was used by some individuals associated with an informal, unofficial UAP community of interest within the Department of Defense.
“Unlike AAWSAP, AATIP was never an official DoD program. However, after AAWSAP was cancelled, the AATIP moniker was used by some individuals associated with an informal, unofficial UAP community of interest within DoD that researc”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:59771-59988 administrative first hand
45
The primary purpose of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was to investigate potential next-generation aerospace technologies in 12 specific areas, such as advanced lift, propulsion, the use of unconventional materials and controls, and signature reduction.
“The primary purpose of AAWSAP/AATIP was to investigate potential next generation aerospace technologies in 12 specific areas - such as advanced lift, propulsion, the use of unconventional materials and controls, and signature reduction.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:60180-60448 administrative second hand
46
Although investigating UFOs/UAP was not specifically outlined in the AAWSAP/AATIP contract's statement of work, the selected private sector organisation conducted UFO research with the support of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) programme manager.
“Although investigating UFO/UAP was not specifically outlined in the contract's statement of work, the selected private sector organization conducted UFO research with the support of the DIA program manager.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:60619-60817 administrative second hand
47
The private sector organisation's research under the AAWSAP/AATIP contract included reviewing new cases and older Project BLUE BOOK cases.
“This research included: reviewing new cases and much older Project BLUE BOOK cases, operating debriefing and investigatory teams, and proposals to set up laboratories to examine any recovered UFO materials.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:60826-61022 administrative second hand
48
The private sector organisation's research under the AAWSAP/AATIP contract included operating debriefing and investigatory teams.
“operating debriefing and investigatory teams”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:60910-60949 administrative second hand
49
The private sector organisation under the AAWSAP/AATIP contract proposed setting up laboratories to examine any recovered UFO materials.
“proposals to set up laboratories to examine any recovered UFO materials”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:60960-61022 administrative second hand
50
AAWSAP/AATIP investigated an alleged hotspot of UAP and paranormal activity at a property in Utah that was, at the time, owned by the head of the private sector organisation contracted for the programme.
“AAWSAP/AATIP also investigated an alleged hotspot of UAP and paranormal activity at a property in Utah - which at that time was owned by the head of the private sector organization”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:61107-61275 administrative second hand
51
AAWSAP/AATIP's investigation of the Utah property included examining reports of "shadow figures" and "creatures."
“including examining reports of "shadow figures" and "creatures," and exploring "remote viewing" and "human consciousness anomalies."”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:61290-61411 administrative second hand
52
The private sector organisation planned to hire psychics to study "inter-dimensional phenomena" believed to frequently appear at the Utah property investigated under AAWSAP/AATIP.
“The organization also planned to hire psychics to study "inter-dimensional phenomena" believed to frequently appear at that location.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:61423-61547 administrative second hand
53
The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) did not seek nor specifically authorise the AAWSAP/AATIP research into paranormal activity, though a DIA employee set up and managed the contract with the private sector organisation.
“DIA did not seek, nor specifically authorize, this work though a DIA employee set up and managed the contract with the private sector organization.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:61567-61701 administrative second hand
54
On 2009-06-24, Harry Reid sent a letter to then Deputy Secretary of Defense William Lynn III requesting that AAWSAP/AATIP be made a Department of Defense (DoD) Special Access Program.
“On 24 June 2009, Senator Reid sent a letter to then Deputy Secretary of Defense William Lynn III requesting that AAWSAP/AATIP be made a DoD Special Access Program.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:61905-62060 administrative second hand
55
William Lynn III declined to designate AAWSAP/AATIP a Department of Defense (DoD) Special Access Program, based on the recommendation of then-Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence James R. Clapper, Jr. that such a designation was not justified.
“Deputy Secretary Lynn declined to do so based on the recommendation of then-Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, James R. Clapper, Jr., that such a designation was not justified.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:62069-62245 administrative second hand
56
Just prior to the Department of Defense's (DoD) cancellation of AAWSAP/AATIP, the private sector organisation proposed hosting a series of "intellectual debates" at academic institutes to influence public debate, including hiring supportive reporters and celebrity moderators.
“Just prior to DoD's cancellation of the program, the private sector organization proposed as a new line of effort to host a series of "intellectual debates" at academic institutes to influence the public debate, which included hiring supportive reporters and celebrity moderators.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:62376-62645 administrative second hand
57
The goal of the private sector organisation's proposed public relations campaign for AAWSAP/AATIP was to assume that "E.T. visitations are true" and to steer debate away from "dead-end discussions" about "evidence."
“The goal of this proposed public relations campaign was to assume that "E.T. visitations are true" and that the moderators would steer debate away from "dead-end discussions" and the "morass" about discussing "evidence."”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:62657-62867 administrative second hand
58
A stated goal of the private sector organisation's public relations proposal was to increase public interest in government "disclosure" around the "E.T. topic" and to explore the consequences of disclosure on the public.
“A stated goal of this proposal was to increase public interest in government "disclosure" around the "E.T. topic" and explore the consequences of disclosure on the public.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:62947-63111 administrative second hand
59
The AAWSAP/AATIP contract with the private sector organisation produced exploratory papers addressing the 12 scientific areas tasked in the contract's statement of work.
“The AAWSAP/AATIP contract with the private sector organization produced exploratory papers addressing the 12 scientific areas tasked in the contract's statement of work.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:63141-63305 administrative
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The scientific papers produced under the AAWSAP/AATIP contract were never thoroughly peer reviewed.
“These scientific papers were never thoroughly peer reviewed.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:63311-63362 administrative
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The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) has not uncovered any substantive UAP case work conducted by AAWSAP/AATIP beyond reviewing Project BLUE BOOK and private cases, conducting interviews of UAP observers, and conducting unrelated work on alleged paranormal activities at the private sector organisation's property in Utah.
“AARO has yet to uncover any other substantive UAP case work conducted by AAWSAP/AATIP. Instead, AAWSAP/AATIP reviewed a large number of Project BLUE BOOK and private cases and conducted interviews of UAP observers and conducted unrelated work on alleged paranormal activities at the private sector organization's property in Utah.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:63375-63700 administrative first hand
62
AAWSAP/AATIP was terminated in 2012 upon completion of its deliverables due to Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and Department of Defense (DoD) concerns about the project.
“AAWSAP/AATIP was terminated in 2012 upon the completion of its deliverables due to DIA and DoD concerns about the project.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:63708-63822 administrative
63
After AAWSAP/AATIP was terminated, its supporters unsuccessfully attempted to convince the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to support a new version of the effort dubbed KONA BLUE.
“After AAWSAP/AATIP was terminated, its supporters unsuccessfully attempted to convince DHS to support a new version of this effort dubbed KONA BLUE.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:63875-64018 administrative
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KONA BLUE traces its origins to the Defense Intelligence Agency-managed Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, which was funded through a special appropriation and executed by its primary contractor, a private sector organisation.
“KONA BLUE traces its origins to the DIA-managed AAWSAP/AATIP program, which was funded through a special appropriation and executed by its primary contractor, a private sector organization.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:99127-99303 administrative first hand
65
The Defense Intelligence Agency cancelled the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program in 2012 due to lack of merit and the utility of the deliverables.
“DIA cancelled the program in 2012 due to lack of merit and the utility of the deliverables.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:99317-99395 administrative first hand
66
While the official purpose of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was to conduct research into 12 areas of cutting edge science, the contractor team, and at least one supportive government programme manager, also conducted UAP and paranormal research at a property owned by the private sector organisation.
“As discussed in Section IV of this report, while the official purpose of AAWSAP/AATIP was to conduct research into 12 areas of cutting edge science, the contractor team, and at least one supportive government program manager, also conducted UAP and paranormal research at a property owned by the private sector organization.”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:99409-99720 administrative first hand
67
When the Defense Intelligence Agency cancelled the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, its supporters proposed to the Department of Homeland Security that they create and fund a new version of the programme under a special access programme, codenamed KONA BLUE.
“When DIA cancelled this program, its supporters proposed to DHS that they create and fund a new version of AAWSAP/AATIP under a SAP. (AARO case files) This proposal, codenamed KONA BLUE, would restart UAP investigations, paranormal research (including alleged "huma”
Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:99735-99987 administrative first hand
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Luis Elizondo began working at the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“The new job at AAWSAP/AATIP was like one of those Russian dolls”
Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:101-159 administrative first hand
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Jay Stratton and Jim Lacatski briefed Luis Elizondo on the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF).
“Jay and Jim began briefing me on the program in a SCIF”
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Before Lue Elizondo joined the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), Harold Puthoff conceived and commissioned studies including invisibility cloaking, traversable wormholes and stargates, antigravity, brain/machine interfaces, and warp drives.
“Even before I’d come aboard, Hal conceived and commissioned fascinating studies for AAWSAP/AATIP, including invisibility cloaking, traversable wormholes and stargates, antigravity, brain/machine interfaces, and warp drives.”
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The studies commissioned by Harold Puthoff for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) became known as the thirty-eight Defense Intelligence Research Documents (DIRDs).
“These studies would later be known as the thirty-eight Defense Intelligence Research Documents (DIRDs).”
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Initially the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) crew enjoyed a good degree of support from Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) leadership.
“Initially, the AAWSAP/AATIP crew enjoyed a good degree of support from DIA leadership.”
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Memorandums between Lieutenant General Michael D. Maples and Deputy Director Robert Cardillo initially referred to the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) effort in positive terms.
“Memorandums to and from Lieutenant General Michael Maples and Deputy Director Robert Cardillo initially referred to the effort in positive terms.”
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Lue Elizondo had the privilege of personally reading some of the feedback on Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) executive summary reports.
“I had the privilege to read some of the feedback from these reports myself.”
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As James Lacatski and his contractors circulated Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) executive summaries, the email responses received via secure internal servers were unfailingly positive.
“As Jim Lacatski and his contractors circulated executive summaries, the email responses they received via secure internal servers were unfailingly positive.”
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It was not unusual to find a hand-scribbled note at the top of a classified Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) memo reading "Excited to see the results."
“It was not unusual to find a hand-scribbled note, at the top of a classified memo, that read, “Excited to see the results.””
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An increasing number of Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) detractors came to work at the senior level within the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), and new executive leadership at DIA became settled into their roles, increasing scrutiny of AAWSAP.
“An increasing number of AAWSAP detractors now worked at the senior level within DIA. More and more scrutiny was being placed on AAWSAP every day and new executive leadership at DIA was getting settled into their roles.”
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Within weeks of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) leadership transition, James Lacatski began spending most of his time defending his efforts instead of conducting research, as senior DIA leadership actively tried to kill the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP).
“Within a matter of weeks of the transition, Lacatski began spending most of his time defending his efforts instead of conducting research. The powers that be in the ivory tower now actively tried to kill the program.”
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)'s investigation at Skinwalker Ranch in Utah aroused curiosity and uncomfortable questions.
“AAWSAP’s investigation at the Utah ranch alone aroused curiosity and uncomfortable questions.”
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Lue Elizondo believed the philosophical and theological challenges posed by the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) were more of a roadblock than the pragmatic or bureaucratic ones, especially as religiously inclined leaders had taken a keen interest in AAWSAP.
“My impression was that the philosophical and theological challenges were more of a roadblock than the pragmatic or bureaucratic ones, especially now that leaders of a religious bent had taken a keen interest in AAWSAP.”
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) went from being favoured to being treated with hostility almost overnight.
“AAWSAP/AATIP went from being the ballroom darling to the Wicked Witch of the West, almost overnight.”
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Lue Elizondo believed that, as the new member of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) team, the powers that be had targeted James Lacatski and AAWSAP/AATIP for elimination.
“As the new kid, I was certainly not going to tell Jim how to do his job, but I worried the powers that be had bull’s-eyes fixed on Jim and AAWSAP/AATIP.”
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Eric Davis is an astrophysicist with high-level national security clearances who worked with Harold Puthoff as a contractor for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“It wasn’t until much later that I met Eric Davis, an astrophysicist with high-level national security clearances who also worked with Hal as a contractor for the program.”
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A small part of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) effort investigated unexplainable phenomena at a 194-hectare property in Utah called Skinwalker Ranch.
“a small part of the effort also investigated unexplainable phenomena at a 480-acre property in Utah called Skinwalker Ranch”
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Lue Elizondo experienced firsthand orbs appearing at his home after he began working with the AAWSAP/AATIP UAP programme.
“I was shocked to find that a lot of my colleagues and I began experiencing firsthand some of these orbs at our homes.”
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Two colleagues working with the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program were under medical care for cutaneous and visceral injuries sustained from interactions with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.
“Two colleagues in particular were under medical care for both cutaneous and visceral injuries that were sustained from interactions with UAP while working with AAWSAP/AATIP”
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John Robert, Lue Elizondo's longtime friend, worked around the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program team without being part of it, and experienced similar biological effects symptoms.
“Another colleague and good friend, who wasn’t part of AAWSAP/AATIP but worked around us often, experienced these symptoms.”
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Jay Stratton investigated the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter before Lue Elizondo joined the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AAWSAP/AATIP) team.
“Jay Stratton investigated the incident before I joined the team.”
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Jay Stratton wrote a detailed Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AAWSAP/AATIP) report on the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter.
“He had written a detailed AAWSAP/AATIP report on the event, which is how I first learned about it.”
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During his early days at the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AAWSAP/AATIP), Lue Elizondo brought an unclassified US Air Force-commissioned document on teleportation to read while at his daughter's lacrosse practice on Maryland's Eastern Shore.
“One afternoon during my early days at AAWSAP/AATIP I took my oldest daughter to lacrosse practice somewhere on Maryland’s Eastern Shore, and sat on the bleachers with some of the other parents. To pass the time, I had brought along an unclassified document on the topic of teleportation, commissioned by the US Air Force.”
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Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) was the primary contractor firm for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP).
“The program had taken on a slew of subcontractors to help with the research, but the primary firm was Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS), owned by former hotel magnate Robert Bigelow, who, as I mentioned, at the time owned Skinwalker Ranch.”
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Robert Bigelow spent much of his own money funding some of the costs of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP).
“He spent much of his own money fronting some of the costs for AAWSAP.”
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To accelerate its work, the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) gained access to a database of civilian eyewitness accounts, intending to track down eyewitnesses and debrief them about UAP sightings and aircraft encounters.
“In addition, to accelerate its UAP work, AAWSAP gained access to a database of civilian eyewitness accounts, intending to track down the eyewitnesses and debrief them about sightings and aircraft encounters.”
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It was allegedly claimed that the names and contact information of civilian eyewitnesses had been stripped from records before submission to the government, but that the redacted reports had allegedly been uploaded to Department of Defense (DoD) databases by someone in the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) government chain of command rather than by Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS).
“The names and contact information of those US citizens had allegedly been stripped out before anything went to the government, but the redacted reports had allegedly been uploaded to DoD databases, not by BAASS but by someone in AAWSAP's government chain of command.”
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The original funding for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) was programmed for the years 2008 to 2012.
“The original funding was programmed for the years 2008–12.”
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Neill Tipton helped build the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“"I helped build the program. Why wouldn't I be?"”
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William "Will" Livingston served as a medical advisor to the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) and Robert Bigelow's National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS).
“Will served as a medical advisor to AAWSAP/AATIP and Bigelow's NIDS.”
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Harry Reid and fellow senators who supported funding the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) and Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) favoured applying science and intellect to the UAP problem.
“Harry Reid and his cohort of fellow senators who had supported funding AAWSAP/AATIP appreciated the concept of applying science and intellect to the UAP problem—a completely secular view that I heartily embraced.”
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP)/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) obtained photographs of alleged alien implant-like objects from living foreign military pilots.
“AAWSAP/AATIP had also obtained photographs of these sorts of tiny objects from living foreign military pilots.”
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Within thirty to forty-five days of Devon Woods's reassignment to the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), the agency's attitude toward the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) work shifted, with higher-ups who had previously welcomed the reports beginning to question why the work was being done.
“Within thirty to forty-five days of my mentor's reassignment to DIA, the atmosphere at the agency changed with respect to our work. Woods brought in colleagues from the CIA. Suddenly the response to Lacatski's well-crafted reports to higher-ups elicited a shift in tone.”
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In the fall of 2009, Luis Elizondo and Jim Semivan attended a meeting with James Lacatski in which they discussed whether the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) should drop investigations widely considered paranormal and instead focus solely on UAP threats.
“I remember a meeting in the fall of 2009 that Jay and I attended with Jim, in which we openly talked about the wisdom of Jim dropping the investigations AAWSAP had gotten involved with that many considered to be dealing with the paranormal and instead focusing solely on UAP threats.”
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In the spring of 2010, James Lacatski confided to Luis Elizondo that he was being pressured to stop all Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) efforts.
“Sometime after that, in the spring of 2010, Jim confided in me that he was being pressured to stop all efforts.”
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James Lacatski planned to meet with Deputy Secretary of Defense William J. Lynn in 2010 in an effort to allay concerns about the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP).
“He was about to take a meeting with Deputy Secretary of Defense William J. Lynn, hoping he could talk some sense into the deputy secretary and allay any of DoD's fears or concerns.”
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Colm Kelleher is a biochemist who was the deputy administrator for Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) during the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP).
“Colm Kelleher, a biochemist who was the deputy administrator for BAASS during AAWSAP”
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) had used a secure-server approach to share all but one of thirty-eight academic theoretical research papers that Harold Puthoff had commissioned from various scientists.
“With great success, AAWSAP had used the same approach to share all but one of the thirty-eight academic theoretical research papers Hal had commissioned from various scientists.”
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Luis Elizondo considers that the 2017 New York Times and Politico articles did not adequately explain the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) or the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), which caused confusion for years afterward.
“The articles did not explain AAWSAP/AATIP, which would go on to cause confusion for years.”
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) produced a thorough report on the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter.
“the most notable and useful information developed by the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) was their thorough report on the *Nimitz* case.”
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The United States Air Force and most components of the US intelligence community refused to support the AAWSAP congressionally funded UAP investigation.
“despite being the result of a good-faith effort by the powerful Senate Majority Leader, the Honorable Harry Reid, the US Air Force and most components of the US intelligence community refused to support this congressionally funded UAP investigation.”
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The US Department of Defense (DoD) worked to end the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) at its earliest opportunity.
“Indeed, the Defense Department worked to kill this short-lived program at its earliest opportunity.”
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Lue Elizondo called the successor initiative to the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“what remained of Senator Reid’s inspired effort was a successor initiative Lue called the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).”
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James Lacatski told Luis Elizondo that the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program focused on unusual phenomena and investigated unidentified aircraft that display beyond-next-generation technology and capabilities, now called unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP), previously referred to as UFOs.
“He explained that AAWSAP focused on "unusual phenomena" and investigated unidentified aircraft, specifically ones that seem to display beyond-next-generation technology and capabilities—what we now call unidentified anomalous phenomena, or UAP, or what were long referred to as UFOs.”
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John Robert worked in intelligence for a US government agency after leaving the Army, and acted as a liaison between that agency and the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program.
“John revealed to me that he was a liaison between the three-letter agency he worked for and AAWSAP.”
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program was supported by then-Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency Lieutenant General Michael D. Maples, and was funded through the efforts of Senator Harry Reid (Democrat, Nevada), Senator Ted Stevens (Republican, Alaska), and Senator Daniel Inouye (Democrat, Hawaii).
“This time, Jim shared that the program enjoyed the support of the DIA's then director, Lieutenant General Michael D. Maples, and was funded through the efforts of a bipartisan group of senators: Senator Harry Reid (D-NV), Senator Ted Stevens (R-AK), and Senator Daniel Inouye (D-HI).”
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James Lacatski formally asked Luis Elizondo to handle counterintelligence and security for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program.
“In this second meeting, Jim Lacatski formally asked me to handle counterintelligence and security for the program.”
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Luis Elizondo worked in an office in Crystal City, Virginia, when he accepted the role handling counterintelligence and security for the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program.
“When I got back to my office in Crystal City, I phoned Jim over our secure line and accepted the role: "Count me in."”
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Jay Stratton helped create a program called the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program (AAWSAP), which later became the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).
“Jay explained that he helped create something called the AAWSAP, Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program, which would later become AATIP (Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program).”
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program was described as a small but highly sensitive program focused on unconventional technologies, reporting directly to the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and to the United States Congress.
“They described it as a small but highly sensitive program focused on "unconventional technologies," and said they reported directly to the director of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and to Congress.”
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James Lacatski told Luis Elizondo that the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program worked on sensitive aviation technology and needed a senior counterintelligence agent to protect intel about the program from foreign adversaries.
“In a calm voice, he told me AAWSAP worked on sensitive aviation technology and needed a senior counterintelligence agent to lock down all intel about the program from the usual antagonists, foreign adversaries.”
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program was nestled inside the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), a member of the US intelligence community, and drew its authority directly from the United States Congress, according to James Lacatski.
“Nestled deep inside DIA, a member of the US intelligence community (the IC), AAWSAP drew its authority directly from Congress, according to Jim.”
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The Kona Blue Special Access Program (SAP) followed on from the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“Well, that was at the end of it, following on AAWSAP.”
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There were several attempts to divest materials to the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) or to Bigelow Aerospace.
“There were several attempts to divest materials to the AAWSAP or to BAS?”
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United States Senator Harry Reid, then Senate Majority Leader, set up further funding intended to go forward as part of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“Actually, Senator Harry Reid, who was Majority Leader at the time, Majority Senator, had set up the next part of funding that was supposed to go forward as part of AAWSAP.”
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The congressional funding language for the follow-on Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) funding described it only as being for aerospace investigations, without revealing its true purpose.
“the language that went into the congressional beef up of the funds just said, well, it's for aerospace investigations and that kind of stuff.”
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The follow-on Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) funding was redirected elsewhere within the chain of command because the official responsible for allocating it to AAWSAP was away on a trip when it arrived, and another office mistook it for general aerospace funding and took it.
“the person who knew what it was really for and was going to then give it off to the AAWSAP program happened to be off on a trip someplace. And so somebody else in his office saw it and said, oh, is this general aerospace stuff? Well, yeah, we do aerospace. So they snatched the money.”
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) was a classified programme intended to obtain answers about UAP.
“Well, basically, AAWSAP was the program to actually try to get the answers, although it was at a classified level.”
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The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was a follow-on semi-official programme that was not structured the same way as the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“AATIP was just kind of a follow-on semi-official program, but not really structured the way AAWSAP was structured.”
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After the original Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) was shut down, its former participants continued to collaborate on their own funds to try to sell a UAP investigation programme elsewhere, using Kona Blue as an example of such an effort at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
“we nonetheless continued to collaborate on our own funds or whatever. to try to go out and sell this program somewhere else, with Kona Blue being the example at DHS.”
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Eric Burlison distinguishes the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) from what people describe as the legacy program, noting they are not necessarily the same thing.
“Dr. Puthoff, so help me understand the difference between AAWSAP and what people describe as the legacy program, because it seems like... They aren't necessarily the same thing.”
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) was started by Senator Harry Reid and a couple of other senators.
“the AAWSAP program was started by Senator Harry Reid and a couple of other senators.”
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP), which began in 2008, was completely separate from the legacy program.
“So, AAWSAP and what we did starting in 2008 was completely separate from the legacy program.”
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Even under Kona Blue, which was intended to operate as a Special Access Program (SAP), the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) team never gained access to the legacy program.
“Even going for Kona Blue, we're supposed to be an SAP program. We still couldn't get access to the legacy programs.”
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Hal Puthoff clarifies that the legacy program itself did not get shut down; rather, it was the attempt to make progress via the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) that was halted.
“Yeah, the legacy program didn't get shut down. I'm just saying- / The attempt to make progress via AAWSAP.”
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Glenn Gaffney, a former CIA Director of Science and Technology and Deputy Director, was one of the gatekeepers who stopped material transfers to the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“one of those gatekeepers that stopped some of these material transfers to the AAWSAP was Glenn Gaffney, former CIA Director of Science and Technology, Deputy Director.”
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Luis Elizondo was in an advisory-type role associated with the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) but was not officially part of it.
“Well, he was kind of an advisory kind of role, but he wasn't officially part of ASAP”
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Luis Elizondo was not directly funded by the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“So he was kind of on the edge associated, but not directly funded by AAWSAP.”
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There is a legacy program that existed separately from the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“So there's the legacy program. There's the AAWSAP, which was not part of the legacy program, existed outside of it”
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In its later years the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) attempted to obtain craft materials and data from the legacy program through the now-deceased Dr. Jim Ryder.
“largely in terms of its later years, attempted to pry craft materials, data, et cetera, out of the legacy program through now deceased Dr. Jim Ryder”
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The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was a nickname for the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) and was not itself an independent program.
“AATIP actually had been a nickname for AAWSAP, you know, along the way, but it was not itself an independent program.”
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Under the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) label, Luis Elizondo gathered data from work successfully carried out under the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“gather data from what had been successfully carried through under the AAWSAP program”
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The 2010 Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) 10-month report contained an idea for a project called Project Forum, intended to use pop culture figures and superstars in California to push disclosure and global awareness of the UAP topic.
“back in the 2010 AAWSAP reports, I think this was the 10-month report, there was an idea for something called Project Forum, which was to essentially attract pop culture figures, pop stars, superstars in California specifically, and use them as a vehicle to push disclosure, push global awareness on the topic”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:47:45.4-00:48:05.7 testimony first hand
141
To the Stars Academy (TTSA) was not officially part of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“But it wasn't really, quote, officially part of AAWSAP.”
Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:49:25.2-00:49:28.2 testimony first hand
142
The colleagues Jacques Vallee discusses the coming concerning event with are the scientists of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“And these are the AAWSAP scientists, by the way.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:43:58.8-00:44:00.5 testimony first hand
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) was funded through the Defense Intelligence Agency and run using Bigelow Aerospace to investigate the UFO phenomenon.
“these are people who worked in the government on a big program that was funded through DIA using Bigelow Aerospace, investigating the phenomenon.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:44:00.8-00:44:08.1 administrative
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) examined 260,000 different cases using seven levels of analysis.
“And the AAWSAP program looked at 260,000 different cases with seven levels of analysis.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:44:09.1-00:44:13.6 measurement first hand
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) is probably the largest study of UFO data ever conducted.
“It's probably the biggest study of UFO data ever.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:44:14.0-00:44:17.0 opinion first hand
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) later turned into the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), a slimmer follow-on programme.
“This AAWSAP program, which then turned into sort of this AATIP overhang program, which seemed a lot slimmer”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:54:55.4-00:55:02.9 testimony first hand
147
The budget associated with the publicly known Pentagon UFO programmes was about 22 million United States dollars.
“We're talking about $22 million.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:55:25.4-00:55:26.6 measurement first hand
148
Jim Lacatski is a Defense Intelligence Agency rocket scientist who was involved in the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“Jim Lacatski coming out, you know, who is a DIA rocket scientist involved in AAWSAP.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:01:56.5-01:02:01.8 administrative
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There were no physicists on the Pentagon UFO programme, according to Eric Davis.
“And you have the idea, you know, Eric Davis saying there were no physicists on the program.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:02:15.1-01:02:18.9 testimony second hand
150
Jason Samosa asks whether Hans-Adam II was the financial backer of the Lone Stars group, a post-AAWSAP group of scientists whose sponsor appeared associated with that milieu.
“Was he the guy who is financially supporting the lone stars group? You know, the sort of post AAWSAP group of scientists, they had some sort of sponsor who seemed to be associated with that area.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:02:10.7-02:02:20.8 opinion first hand
151
After the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) ended, its scientists repeatedly expected funding that never arrived and so formed an informal group called the Lone Stars in order to continue discussing the subject.
“So after the AAWSAP program, they were constantly going to get funding, they didn't get funding, going to get funding. So they really wanted to continue discussing things. And so they formed this informal group, which is called the Lone Stars.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:02:23.6-02:02:35.8 testimony
152
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) started in September 2008.
“you're talking about by the end of May 2009, the program started in September of 2008. Our program, AAWSAP.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:12:56.1-00:13:05.2 administrative first hand
153
Robert Bigelow regards the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) as the only real UFO programme, and the mother of all programmes since Project Blue Book ended in 1969.
“And that was the only real program. That was the mother of all programs since Blue Book ended in '69. It was terminated.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:13:07.1-00:13:16.1 opinion first hand
154
The Defense Intelligence Agency started the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“And so all these years, DIA starts the AAWSAP program”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:13:42.2-00:13:46.4 administrative first hand
155
Robert Bigelow regards the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) as the first honest approach to a discovery process about UFOs and other paranormal events.
“and for the first time, you have an honest approach to discovery process, to trying to learn what everything is about, and all the other paranormal events.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:13:47.5-00:13:58.6 opinion first hand
156
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) was a UFO programme.
“And we were a UFO program.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:13:59.0-00:14:01.8 testimony first hand
157
James Lacatski included paranormal events in the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) because he knew that ancillary events occur that belong in the paranormal category.
“The wisdom of Jim Lacatski was great because he knew that there are ancillary kinds of events that occur that are really paranormal basket kinds of things.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:14:03.6-00:14:15.2 opinion first hand
158
James Lacatski instructed Robert Bigelow's team not to ignore anything that fell outside the UFO genre, and to pursue and run experiments on any other phenomena that mystified them.
“he gave us instructions not to ignore anything that was not just you know UFO uh kind of the genre of of UFOlogy that if we had other kinds of mystifications, things that mystified us, we were to absolutely go down that path and try to do experiments.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:36:31.6-00:36:52.5 testimony first hand
159
Robert Bigelow has direct personal experience of executive-branch resistance to UFO transparency through the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“and you have direct personal experience with how that works because of the AAWSAP program”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:38:05.2-00:38:09.8 observation first hand
160
Some critics argue that the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) was not real but a sweetheart arrangement in which Robert Bigelow received federal money arranged by Harry Reid, and that the non-release of its reports proves it.
“i know there are those out there who say, AAWSAP wasn't real. It was some kind of a sweetheart thing where you got federal money. Harry Reid did it all for you. And the fact that the documents, the reports that you produced have not been made public, that shows that it's not real.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:38:18.2-00:38:31.9 observation
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The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) began with an approach to Robert Bigelow from the Defense Intelligence Agency.
“This was an offer that walked in the door. It was a phone call from the DIA to you, right?”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:38:36.2-00:38:40.9 observation first hand
162
Robert Bigelow was unsure the approach from James Lacatski was genuine and had to authenticate him; Lacatski knew this and supplied the means for Bigelow to verify his identity.
“Yeah, I wasn't sure it was real. You know, I had to authenticate him and he knew that. And so he gave me the means to be able to information, be able to authenticate who the hell is this Jim Lacatski guy”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:38:41.8-00:38:52.5 testimony first hand
163
James Lacatski's initial approach to Robert Bigelow came in the form of a letter rather than a phone call.
“George Knapp: Is it a phone call or a letter? Robert Bigelow: I think it was a letter.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:38:54.8-00:38:56.8 testimony first hand
164
James Lacatski's letter mentioned something about securing funding, which prompted Robert Bigelow to contact Harry Reid.
“I think he mentioned something about, um, We need to secure, I'm not sure if he said something about secure funding, but there was something there that caused me to contact Reid, Harry Reid”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:39:13.5-00:39:26.3 testimony first hand
165
Robert Bigelow regarded the Defense Intelligence Agency approach as important because it was the first time a genuine government agency had engaged on the UFO subject.
“This is something I think that's super important because it's the first time that we actually have a government agency”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:39:32.3-00:39:37.7 opinion first hand
166
To arrange funding for the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP), Harry Reid contacted Ted Stevens and Daniel Inouye.
“He said, I know who and how we can do this. And he contacted Ted Stevens and Daniel Inouye.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:40:01.0-00:40:08.6 testimony second hand
167
Harry Reid secured the funding for the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP), allowing the programme to go forward.
“And so Harry got the money, and so we went forward.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:40:25.1-00:40:30.9 testimony first hand
168
Robert Bigelow retains copies of the 38 papers produced by Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS).
“And we have BAASS, our organization, uh we have 38 papers we have copies of everything”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:40:31.6-00:40:42.6 testimony first hand
169
Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) produced approximately 100 papers in total, beyond the 38 Data Element Reference Documents (DERDs), and the Defense Intelligence Agency holds copies of them somewhere.
“we have everything we have uh we have all the other papers going up to about approximately a hundred so DIA has has those someplace”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:40:44.2-00:40:52.2 testimony first hand
170
Robert Bigelow is unwilling to release the Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) papers beyond the 38 Data Element Reference Documents without official government approval.
“I don't think it's our business to... go around the government and divulge ours without sanction of proof, without approval... I don't mind the 38 papers. I think beyond that, I'm uncomfortable by not having some kind of official ass covering approval”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:41:09.2-00:41:34.6 opinion first hand
171
George Knapp released more than a dozen of the Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) papers himself, with permission from people involved in the programme.
“Well, I released more than a dozen of those papers myself with permission from people who are involved in the program.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:41:36.1-00:41:41.1 testimony first hand
172
The Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) papers contain highly sensitive material including personal medical information and the identities of people who work for the government.
“there's a lot of really sensitive stuff in there. Personal medical information. There's the identities of people who work for the government.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:41:50.9-00:41:57.6 observation second hand
173
Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) employed 50 full-time investigators.
“Dr. Lakatsky explained to me your organization, BAASS, you had 50 full-time investigators, 50.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:42:12.7-00:42:18.7 measurement second hand
174
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) run by Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) was the largest programme of its kind ever funded by the US government.
“making it the largest program of its kind ever funded by the US government.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:42:19.7-00:42:23.9 observation second hand
175
Tens of thousands of pages of investigator notes went into 7,500 pages of documents produced by Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS).
“There are tens of thousands of pages of notes that went into 7,500 pages of documents”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:42:29.0-00:42:33.0 measurement second hand
176
Robert Bigelow gave Harry Reid personal briefings on the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) regularly, travelling to Searchlight, Nevada, where Reid lived and kept security guards.
“i gave uh Senator Reid personal briefings all the time i had to go to searchlight where where he lived and uh He had his security guards there, of course. And so I would give him briefings.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:42:56.3-00:43:08.5 testimony first hand
177
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) was initiated in September 2008.
“By the end of May 2009, the program initiated in September of 2008”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:43:53.6-00:43:58.1 administrative second hand
178
By the end of May 2009, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid was a worried man about the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“By the end of May 2009, the program initiated in September of 2008, Senator Majority Leader Harry Reid was a worried man.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:43:53.6-00:44:02.4 observation second hand
179
A few days before the end of May 2009, Harry Reid received a thorough briefing from Robert Bigelow on the progress of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) and Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS), and was astonished by the breadth and scope of the organisation's investigative capability.
“A few days previously, he had received a thorough briefing on the progress of the new AAWSAP-BAASS effort from Robert Bigelow and the breadth and scope of the investigative horsepower of the fledgling organization had astonished the senior politician.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:44:03.4-00:44:21.7 observation second hand
180
Harry Reid was concerned that Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) would acquire too high a profile within the Department of Defense and that the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) contract would be exposed and left unprotected from potential opponents at the Department of Defense.
“Reid was concerned that BAASS would get too high a profile from DOD in the near future... And that the OSSAP contract would be exposed and essentially unprotected from both potential opponents at DOD.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:44:26.2-00:44:47.6 observation second hand
181
Harry Reid wanted the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) and Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) kept quiet because he believed others would try to cut the programme if they knew it existed.
“And he became concerned, look, we got to keep BAASS, the AAWSAP program, we got to keep it quiet because he knew that somebody would try to, the long knives would be out and try to cut it if they knew it existed.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:49:31.2-00:49:43.1 testimony first hand
182
James Lacatski wrote up the proposal that became the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) without mentioning UFOs, Skinwalker Ranch or alien technology.
“But his brilliance in writing up the program that became AAWSAP was, you don't mention UFOs. You're not going to mention werewolves or the ranch or alien technology.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:49:49.8-00:50:00.8 testimony first hand
183
None of the material about UFOs, Skinwalker Ranch or alien technology appeared in the proposal or the contracts Robert Bigelow signed for the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“None of that stuff was written in the proposal in the contracts that you signed, right? ... Right, right.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:50:01.8-00:50:06.2 testimony first hand
184
The stated subject matter of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) contract was conventional topics such as lift propulsion and cloaking rather than the more sensitive material.
“We had the parochial stuff. The usual stuff, you know, lift propulsion, cloaking, you know, not the real interesting, tricky stuff.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:50:09.9-00:50:20.3 testimony first hand
185
Everyone involved in the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) knew its real purpose despite the wording of the contract.
“But everybody involved knew what it was about. ... Yeah.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:50:21.8-00:50:24.3 testimony first hand
186
Under the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP), Robert Bigelow's team had permission to pursue any anomalous phenomenon wherever reliable evidence led.
“And we had permission to go wherever the evidence, wherever we could have reliable evidence and anything was anomalous, we had permission to chase it.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:50:25.6-00:50:36.3 testimony first hand
187
The name and acronym of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) were not chosen by Robert Bigelow's organisation.
“yeah and we didn't create the uh the uh aerospace advanced weapons application program AAWSAP That wasn't our acronym or our name”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:51:11.0-00:51:22.7 testimony first hand
188
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) had to be a Department of Defense programme because that was where the funding could be sequestered; placed elsewhere the money would have been lost.
“And because it was a DO, Department of War, DOW? Program. And because of that, that's where the money could be sequestered. If it had gone someplace else, it would have been lost. So it had to go to DOW.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:51:26.0-00:51:45.6 testimony first hand
189
The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was insignificant compared with the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“AATIP was nothing by comparison.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:51:52.4-00:51:54.4 opinion first hand
190
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) was the largest known government-funded investigation into UFO phenomena ever to have existed.
“AAWSAP, the largest government-funded investigation into these phenomena that we know of that ever existed.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:51:55.2-00:52:00.4 opinion first hand
191
UFOs were the primary focus of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP), with everything else treated as fair game because it was connected.
“But we had permission. Everything else was fair game. Because it was connected, too. And Lacatski knew that. It was connected.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:52:11.7-00:52:21.2 testimony first hand
192
After his Skinwalker Ranch visit James Lacatski returned to Washington DC, drafted the outline of a programme, described it to Robert Bigelow, who then contacted Harry Reid, leading to the creation of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“And then he goes back to D.C., he designs the outline of a program, he tells it to you, you call Reid, and then AAWSAP is born.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:58:24.8-00:58:32.4 testimony first hand
193
The publicly released Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) contract documents are deliberately vague and do not mention UFOs, UAP, poltergeists or unconventional technology.
“the contract that you signed the documents that have been out there they don't say UFOs, UAPs, poltergeists, unconventional technology there it's very vague on purpose”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:58:35.9-00:58:46.8 testimony first hand
194
The adversaries Harry Reid was concerned about were not only Moscow and Beijing but people within the United States government who would try to kill the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) if they knew it existed.
“it leads back to the comments that Harry Reid made you didn't want anyone else in D.C. to know about it we're talking about adversaries not just Moscow or or Beijing adversaries within government who would try to kill it if they knew it existed”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:58:47.8-00:59:02.2 testimony first hand
195
Robert Bigelow believes elements within the United States government would have killed the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) for a variety of different reasons.
“Yeah. For a variety of different reasons, they would kill it.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:59:03.4-00:59:05.8 opinion first hand
196
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) lasted 27 months, having been contracted as a two-year programme.
“It lasted for 27 months. It was a two-year program.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:59:10.8-00:59:13.1 testimony first hand
197
The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) was killed in December 2010.
“And it was killed, I think, in December of 2010.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:59:14.3-00:59:18.1 testimony first hand
198
Robert Bigelow felt honoured to do work for the United States government through the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP), regarding it as important and helpful.
“We were excited about it. We were honored to be able to do something for the government and that we thought was important and helpful.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:59:48.0-00:59:56.4 opinion first hand
199
The agreement Robert Bigelow signed with the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) contained provisions for modifying the Bigelow Aerospace plant in Las Vegas in anticipation of receiving unspecified materials.
“As part of the agreement that you signed with DIA, there were provisions that you would modify Bigelow Aerospace Plan in anticipation of receiving some materials. It doesn't say what those materials are”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 01:00:03.2-01:00:17.2 testimony first hand
200
The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) contract for the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) was signed by Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS).
“Just the contract you signed with DIA for AAWSAP, that BAASS would sign with DIA, provided for you making some modifications to the Bigelow Aerospace Plant.”
The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 01:02:49.7-01:03:00.1 testimony first hand
201
In the early 2000s the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) ran a programme called the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“there was a DIA program in the early 2000s called AAWSAP”
David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:48:39.6-00:48:42.0 testimony first hand
202
Personnel on the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) attempted to get Lockheed Martin to transfer recovered material to them outside the programme for study.
“They were actually trying to get Lockheed Martin to transfer material to them outside the program for study, kind of outside the onion, so to speak.”
David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:48:43.3-00:48:52.0 testimony first hand
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Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) leadership denied the request to transfer recovered material from Lockheed Martin to the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).
“But CIA leadership denied that.”
David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:48:52.4-00:48:54.9 testimony first hand

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