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Alien abduction

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Mary Rodwell has provided emotional support to over 100 people experiencing abductee encounters and their families.
“I have provided emotional support for over 100 experiencers, their families all having the abductee encounter experience.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:02:03.3-00:02:11.3 testimony first hand
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Mary Rodwell has never observed an unidentified flying object nor experienced abduction.
“I've never seen a UFO, and I have never had an abductee experience.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:03:12.5-00:03:16.3 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell believes many millions of people have experienced unidentified flying objects and abductions.
“but I do believe many millions have”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:03:18.5-00:03:20.9 opinion first hand
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The contactee's partner and five-year-old daughter were also experiencing extraterrestrial contact.
“He was particularly concerned for his partner because she was having experiences, as was his five-year-old daughter.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:07:48.4-00:07:54.0 testimony second hand
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The initial abductee support group meeting was attended by 12 individuals experiencing extraterrestrial contact plus one professional psychologist providing feedback.
“We had 12 courageous individuals finally attend, plus another professional psychologist for feedback.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:13:26.6-00:13:32.0 testimony first hand
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Many people experiencing extraterrestrial abduction have been traumatised by mainstream mental health professionals.
“I had heard many stories from abductees traumatized by going through mainstream therapists and mental health professionals.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:16:24.7-00:16:29.6 observation second hand
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Many abductees who sought help from mainstream mental health professionals were diagnosed as psychotic, medicated, and institutionalised.
“Many had resourced them to their cost and were diagnosed as psychotic, then medicated and institutionalized.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:16:31.2-00:16:36.2 observation second hand
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For many abductees, psychiatric treatment by mainstream mental health professionals was more damaging to their psychological wellbeing than the extraterrestrial contact experiences themselves.
“This was more damaging to their psyche than the ET contact.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:16:38.2-00:16:41.1 opinion second hand
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The female client disclosed her extraterrestrial abduction experiences to a psychiatrist, who responded that aliens do not exist.
“She finally gained the courage to tell the psychiatrist what was really troubling her and that she was being abducted by aliens. The psychiatrist responded by saying there was no such thing as aliens.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:18:19.2-00:18:30.0 testimony third hand
10
Jason Andrews experienced extraterrestrial abduction from small childhood.
“a 15-year-old son, who had abducting experiences from a small child”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:18:56.1-00:18:59.8 testimony third hand
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Jason Andrews became increasingly disruptive at school when his extraterrestrial contact experiences were not validated.
“Jason Andrews reacted badly to his not having his experiences validated and became increasingly disruptive at school.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:19:01.4-00:19:07.6 testimony third hand
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Jason Andrews referred to his psychiatrist as 'the finger lady' because she would raise and bow her fingers when discussing aliens, which Jason perceived as a condescending indication that aliens should not be taken seriously.
“He called her the finger lady because every time she spoke of the aliens, she would hold up the fingers of each hand, bowing them in what Jason thought was a condescending manner to indicate the word aliens should be in quotation marks and thereby not necessarily taken as correct.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:19:10.6-00:19:25.3 testimony third hand
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Mary Rodwell's female client researched and understood that her experiences aligned with documented extraterrestrial contact phenomena, but was not believed by others.
“she gradually looked for her own answers, researched the abductee enigma herself, realized it explained her own experiences, but still no one would believe her”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:20:12.6-00:20:21.6 testimony second hand
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Millions of people from all cultures and belief systems throughout the world have had extraterrestrial contact or alien abduction experiences.
“Millions of people from all cultures, belief systems throughout the world are having this experience.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:22:43.8-00:22:47.5 observation first hand
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Alien abduction experiences affect all age groups, including children as young as 2 and 3 years old.
“It affects all age groups, some as two and three years old.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:22:50.2-00:22:54.2 observation first hand
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Alien abduction experiences have real physical aspects manifesting as scars, marks, bruises, and skin rashes.
“It has very real physical aspects to it in the form of scars, marks, bruises and skin rashes.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:22:56.3-00:23:00.3 observation first hand
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Alien abduction experiences are often accompanied by emotional trauma, sometimes severe, manifesting as post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD).
“It has often emotional trauma associated with it, sometimes severe, called post-traumatic stress disorder.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:02.6-00:23:07.9 observation first hand
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Alien abduction experiences affect animals and plants, causing changes in soil and material objects.
“It affects animals and plants, will affect changes in soil and material objects.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:13.1-00:23:16.4 observation first hand
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Alien abduction experiences produce anomalies in the human body, including implanted objects that are often visible on X-ray and some of which have been removed by surgery.
“It produces anomalies in the body, such as implanted objects, often visible on X-ray, and some of which have been removed by surgery.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:17.6-00:23:23.5 observation first hand
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Many individuals who experience alien abduction are found to be physically missing from their beds during contact events.
“Many individuals having the experience are found to be physically missing from their beds.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:25.9-00:23:29.2 observation first hand
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Many individuals who experience alien abduction report missing time episodes, either when travelling or at home.
“Many individuals have missing time episodes, either when travelling or at home.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:30.6-00:23:34.0 observation first hand
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Many individuals who report alien abduction experiences have been psychologically tested and found to have no psychopathology.
“Many have been psychologically tested and found to have no psychopathology.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:45.4-00:23:48.2 observation first hand
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Alien abduction experiences result in transformation of individuals physically, emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually.
“There is transformation of the individual physically, emotionally, psychologically, and spiritually.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:51.0-00:23:55.0 observation first hand
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Individuals who experience alien abduction frequently develop high sense perception, clairvoyance, and telepathic abilities.
“High sense perception, clairvoyance, telepathy, remote viewing abilities.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:23:56.7-00:24:00.0 observation first hand
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Individuals who experience alien abduction develop healing abilities through psychic surgery and energy work.
“Healing abilities from psychic surgery, energy work, hands-on healing.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:24:01.2-00:24:04.1 observation first hand
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Individuals who experience alien abduction undergo transformation resulting in greater ecological sensitivity, non-materialistic values, and spiritual orientation with awareness of multidimensional reality.
“Transformation that changes the individual on all levels, ecologically sensitive, non-materialistic and spiritually orientated individuals who become aware of a greater multidimensional reality.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:24:05.3-00:24:16.6 observation first hand
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Many abductees report being well-integrated, happy, and healthy individuals leading normal, fulfilling lives.
“Many abductees are amazingly integrated and happy, healthy human beings leading normal, fulfilling lives.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:24:54.5-00:25:00.4 observation first hand
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Some individuals who experience alien abduction do not experience the more difficult traumatic memory recall that affects other abductees.
“For some, it may be that they have not the more difficult traumatic memory recall that other individuals have.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:25:04.5-00:25:10.5 observation first hand
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Some individuals who experience alien abduction do not report experiencing traumatic contact events, such as medical procedures.
“Some do not seem to have the same type of experiences that are traumatic, such as the medical procedures, for example.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:25:11.9-00:25:16.5 observation first hand
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Some individuals who experience alien abduction, despite having traumatic memories, develop the ability to integrate those experiences through their own resources and become well-adjusted individuals who value the specialness of the experience and the awareness of greater reality it provides.
“Some do have all of this, but have the ability to make sense of it through their own resources and become very integrated and accepted individuals that even enjoys the specialness of this experience and the gift of being aware of a greater reality.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:25:18.3-00:25:32.3 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell calls the process of moving from fear and confusion to understanding one's alien contact experience 'contact the chrysalis for change'.
“This process, from fear to understanding, I call contact the chrysalis for change.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:26:30.4-00:26:34.6 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell has developed a 10-stage process model describing the progression from fear and confusion to transformation and integration of alien contact experience.
“Through my research with experiences, I've come through a process. I've come to realize there is a process that you go to from the confusion right through to living and growing with this experience. And these are the 10 stages.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:26:39.5-00:26:53.2 observation first hand
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In Mary Rodwell's stage model, individuals begin the process of integrating alien contact experience with confusion and fear.
“I call it from fear to transformation, where you start off with all the confusion and really in the fear place.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:26:53.9-00:27:00.1 observation first hand
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In Mary Rodwell's stage model, the second stage transitions from fear to curiosity and questioning about the nature of contact experiences.
“And you go from the fear place to the curiosity, the questioning. What are these experiences?”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:27:02.1-00:27:07.0 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell identifies a stage in the contact integration process where individuals experience internal conflict and debate about whether their experiences are real or evidence of mental illness.
“What is real? What is there about this that makes this real? What is the information out there? Am I really crazy? Or is this actually a bizarre experience?”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:27:19.3-00:27:28.7 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell identifies a 'realization event' stage where individuals accumulate enough information to recognise that their contact experiences may be real, sometimes triggered by attending a support group or encountering a book that resonates powerfully with them.
“And there comes a point where you get enough information where you realize that in fact, perhaps, perhaps this is real. It may be when you first attend a support group, it may be that you pick up one particular book that echoes and resonates so powerfully that you have got no more choice but to recognize that this is real. And it's known as the realization event.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:27:30.4-00:27:50.8 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell identifies a stage of intense internal conflict where abductees struggle between denial of their experiences and acceptance of their reality.
“Now this is really, really scary then because you've got the conflict. Part of you wants to deny it all and say, I'd rather believe I was crazy and if I take medication, it's all going to go away. But there's another part that says, have I got to accept this because it's there, it's in front of me.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:27:52.2-00:28:05.5 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell identifies a stage where individuals begin to accept and integrate multidimensional reality and a new worldview in relation to their contact experiences.
“And then comes a point at number seven where you start to change. You start to say, well, maybe I can take this on board. So you start to take on the multi-dimensional reality, the new paradigm, the change in worldview.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:28:08.0-00:28:20.6 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell calls the stage of accepting the simultaneous reality of both conventional and multidimensional reality 'the conversion', or 'the acceptance of the dual reality'.
“And this I call the conversion, the acceptance of the dual reality.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:28:22.3-00:28:26.4 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell identifies the final stage of the contact integration process as reaching calmness and integration, characterised by the recognition 'contact is real' and the ability to integrate and live with the contact experience.
“You're going to the transformative effect of this experience to finally, yes, contact's real, and integrate and live and grow with this experience.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:28:39.0-00:28:48.2 observation first hand
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The journey from fear and confusion to integration in the context of alien abduction experiences can be fairly rapid for some abductees or take years, depending on the support and validation they receive.
“the journey from the fear place to integration can be fairly rapid for some it can take years depending on the support and validation they get”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:29:08.9-00:29:15.7 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell believes that when provided with an honouring and supportive environment, the journey from fear and confusion to integration of alien contact experience can be very swift.
“given the right support, by this I mean an honoring supportive environment, then I believe it can be very swift.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:29:16.9-00:29:22.8 opinion first hand
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Individuals who experience alien abduction can develop healing abilities.
“We have got amazing healing abilities.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:31:35.4-00:31:38.2 observation first hand
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The number of people who have experienced alien abduction could potentially be astronomically large.
“The numbers could be absolutely astronomical.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:33:40.5-00:33:43.1 opinion first hand
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Anomalies in the human body demonstrate that humans only use approximately one-tenth of their brain capacity.
“Anomalies in our physical body show we only use a tenth of our brain capacity. What is the rest for?”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:34:10.2-00:34:15.6 observation first hand
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Mary Rodwell considers individuals who experience alien abduction to be pioneers of human evolution.
“I believe they are pioneers of our evolution”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:35:46.1-00:35:48.3 opinion first hand
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During regression sessions, Mary Rodwell's tape recorders frequently malfunction, which she interprets as possible extraterrestrial interference to prevent validation of contact experiences.
“even when I have done a regression sometimes the tape recorder will play up so it's like almost as though they could create an interference to stop that from being validated on one level”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:38:49.6-00:38:59.3 observation first hand
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Daryl Sims has attempted to programme individuals who experience alien abduction to consciously remember their experiences whilst aboard extraterrestrial spacecraft.
“Daryl Sims has tried to do this, and he's tried to program people to remember their experiences consciously when they've gone aboard the ship”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:39:05.7-00:39:12.6 administrative second hand
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People involved in experiences related to alien contact can become psychologically unbalanced and disconnected from reality.
“you'll get people that become out balanced because they become I call them space cadets because that's what they are they live up here they're not grounded”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:44:48.1-00:44:55.5 observation
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A panel speaker recommends that people involved in these experiences should ground themselves through activities such as gardening, putting hands in cold water, and walking barefoot on land.
“suggest to your friends go out and work in the garden put your hands in cold water take your shoes off walk on the land ground yourself”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:44:57.6-00:45:04.4 opinion first hand
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A panel speaker observes that people involved in these experiences work from their solar plexus rather than from the heart centre or higher consciousness.
“They're working from their solar plexus. They're not working from their heart center or the higher consciousness.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:45:10.3-00:45:14.6 observation first hand
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A panel speaker advocates that those engaged in alien contact work must develop the capacity to work from the heart centre and higher consciousness.
“We've got to work from the heart and the higher consciousness in all this work.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:45:18.0-00:45:21.0 opinion first hand
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A panel speaker emphasises that people engaged in these experiences must remain grounded and live in the present moment rather than becoming detached.
“We've got to ground ourselves. We've got to live in the now.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:45:23.7-00:45:24.8 opinion first hand
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A panel speaker with counselling experience considers that fear is created through ignorance; overcoming fear results in there being nothing to fear.
“fear is created through ignorance. And once you learn to overcome your fear, there is nothing to fear.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:45:52.0-00:45:56.2 opinion first hand
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The panel counsellor reports that many people who approach them are psychologically unbalanced, often as a result of involvement with groups led by inadequately trained practitioners.
“And I do have a lot of people that come to me because they're totally unbalanced. Because they do get in and they follow and go off to people that run groups.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:46:12.5-00:46:19.4 observation first hand
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Some group leaders conducting workshops on alien abduction experiences have only been involved in teaching for a very short period and lack proper professional qualifications.
“They've been in teaching for about five minutes. They've gone to weekend workshops and think they know everything. But basically they haven't got the qualifications behind them to help people.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:46:20.1-00:46:29.0 observation
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The humanoid appearance described in the Betty Andreasson abduction is typical of the humanoid seen in these particular cases.
“This is the typical humanoid that's seen in these particular cases.”
Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:46:25.8-00:46:28.2 opinion first hand
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A panel speaker considers it important to work with qualified and professional practitioners when engaging in activities related to alien abduction experiences.
“working with qualified and professional people I think is important.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:46:42.3-00:46:44.8 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell considers that the alien abduction phenomenon relates to a multidimensional reality involving parallel universes discussed by those with direct contact experiences.
“It seems to be that we're looking with a multidimensional reality. We are looking at perhaps some parallel universes they're talking about.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:47:22.8-00:47:30.2 opinion first hand
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According to experiencers and contactees in Mary Rodwell's support groups, there may be life existing within the planet itself.
“And there may even be, they say, life within the planet itself.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:47:57.5-00:48:01.0 hearsay second hand
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Mary Rodwell observes that sufficient scientific tools to test the origins and nature of the phenomenon and associated beings are not yet available.
“certainly not the scientific tools yet to test where they're all coming from.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:48:10.4-00:48:14.0 observation first hand
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In a typical close encounter of the third kind, Type G case, one or more persons travelling in an automobile see something like a plane crashing in front of them, their car stops, and the object then disappears, after which they continue to their destination and find that two or three hours have passed.
“what usually happens is you have a person in an automobile... or maybe two or three persons in an automobile going to a certain destination they see something like a plane crashing in front of them their car comes to a stop and then All of a sudden, the object is gone and they continue to the destination and find that two or three hours have passed.”
Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:48:25.2-00:48:44.5 opinion first hand
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After a typical close encounter of the third kind, Type G experience, witnesses start having dreams about what happened during the missing time, and have flashbacks during everyday activities such as doing dishes.
“Then they'll start having dreams about what happened in between. They'll have flashbacks while they're doing dishes.”
Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:48:46.0-00:48:50.7 opinion first hand
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Under hypnosis with the right investigators, witnesses of close encounters of the third kind, Type G relive a typical abduction experience and physical examination, and recall being told they would not be able to remember the incident.
“If they get to the right people under hypnosis, they relive a typical abduction experience and physical examination and being told that they will not be able to remember the incident.”
Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:48:51.6-00:48:59.5 opinion first hand
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There are several hundred alleged abduction cases that have been investigated fairly thoroughly, usually by people with strong credentials such as psychiatrists and psychologists.
“There are several hundred of these now that we've investigated fairly thoroughly and by some usually investigated by people who have very good credentials, psychiatrists, psychologists.”
Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:49:00.4-00:49:11.2 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell considers it threatening and inappropriate for researchers to observe therapeutic support groups of traumatised people experiencing alien abduction, as observation itself compounds the threat for already vulnerable individuals.
“if you've actually got a therapeutic group with people that are traumatized, the last thing they want to be is being observed under some sort of microscope. It's threatening enough to even meet another experiencer to start with, and it isn't appropriate for a therapeutic group.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:49:14.5-00:49:30.2 opinion first hand
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Investigated alien abduction witnesses have passed lie detector tests and rigid character reference checks, and their reported experiences are similar to other cases reported in the United States and abroad.
“They pass lie detector tests. They passed a rigid character reference check. Things that they report are similar to other cases in this country and abroad.”
Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:49:19.0-00:49:27.0 opinion first hand
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Raymond Fowler considers that alien abduction reports are not hoaxes, even though it is unknown whether the reported events actually happened, and that the witnesses genuinely believe they experienced something like this.
“Whether they actually really happened, we don't know, but we know that they aren't hoaxes. We know that they really believe that they experienced something like this.”
Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:49:35.0-00:49:41.0 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell advocates for therapeutic support groups for alien abduction experiencers to remain separate and distinct from groups focused on sharing and discussing understanding of the phenomenon.
“I really see them as two distinct sorts of groups, though, one that is for therapy, another one for sharing, your understanding of this.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:49:40.6-00:49:47.2 opinion first hand
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After an abduction-type experience, some people who have had this experience report psychic phenomena, apparitions, objects moving by themselves, and strange lights, sometimes lasting days, sometimes weeks, and sometimes stopping and starting again.
“for a period of time afterwards strange things happened, which I guess for want of a better term you'd use the term psychic phenomena, apparitions, things moving in the house by themselves, strange lights being seen. This sometimes lasts for a few days after the sighting, sometimes it goes on for weeks, sometimes it stops and it starts again.”
Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:49:54.1-00:50:15.3 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell identifies obtaining support and being able to talk about one's experiences as one of the primary ways to help people overcome fear related to alien abduction.
“One of the main ways of helping is through getting support and being able to talk about it.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:50:19.8-00:50:25.0 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell considers becoming informed about alien abduction experiences to be essential for reducing fear, as greater awareness reveals positive dimensions and changes beyond fear itself.
“Two is getting informed. The more you're informed, the more you're aware there's more to this than just the fear, that there are positive changes.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:50:27.3-00:50:35.5 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell emphasises the importance of focusing on hope and the possibility of moving beyond fear related to alien abduction experiences.
“I think it's really important to look at the hope and the fact that you can get past that.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:50:35.9-00:50:38.9 opinion first hand
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Mary Rodwell advocates that family members and close friends should be informed about and provide ongoing support to people experiencing fear from alien abduction encounters.
“it's really important to inform, if you can, family or friends, someone who can be there during that time. Because it's ongoing support then.”
The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:51:09.7-00:51:16.6 opinion first hand
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Bill Chalker considers evidence supporting the reality of alien abduction events to have been lacking or relatively unconvincing, despite abduction events coming to dominate the UFO field.
“But similar evidence to support the reality of abduction events has been lacking or is relatively unconvincing. And yet such events have come to dominate the entire UFO scene.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:1410-1579 opinion first hand
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Bill Chalker considers the 1993 Kelly Cahill case one of the few compelling exceptions to the ambiguity and uncertainty pervading the alien abduction experience.
“One of the few compelling exceptions to the ambiguity and uncertainty that pervade the alien abduction experience is the 1993 Kelly Cahill case.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:1689-1828 opinion first hand
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In his research into Australian abduction events from the 1970s until the early 1990s, Bill Chalker generally held the view that most abduction cases probably revealed more about the human condition than about UFOs themselves.
“In my own research into Australian abduction events, from my earliest work in the seventies until the early nineties, I basically came to hold the position that most abduction cases probably told us more about the human condition than they did about UFOs themselves.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:513-768 opinion first hand
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Bill Chalker found the majority of alien abduction cases conspicuously lacking compelling physical evidence.
“I found the majority of abduction cases conspicuously devoid of compelling physical evidence.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch11:781-865 opinion first hand
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Bill Chalker considers the DNA findings on Peter Khoury's alien hair sample to represent potent evidence for a forensic and scientific approach to alien abduction cases, though subject to continuing review and debate.
“While our findings will continue to be subjected to review and debate, they still represent potent evidence for a forensic and scientific approach to alien abduction cases that will help illuminate the possible strange reality that may be at the heart of such claims.”
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Robert Shapiro rejects stories of UFOs and alien abductions as credible evidence for extraterrestrial life.
“Like most scientists, Shapiro rejects stories of UFOs and alien abductions as credible evidence for extraterrestrial life”
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Bill Chalker felt that while the prospects for a breakthrough in DNA analysis of the alien hair sample would be very small, biochemical and forensic approaches to alien abductions would offer scientific value.
“I felt that while the prospects for a breakthrough would be very small, the utility and potential of the biochemical and forensic approaches to alien abductions would come as a breath of scientific fresh air.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch12:5031-5235 opinion first hand
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Kary Mullis considers alien abduction phenomena involving grabbing people or subjecting them to experiments to be a form of anthropology conducted at a level not yet understood.
“This stuff about grabbing people or subjecting them to all kinds of experiments, it's just anthropology at a level we don't understand quite yet.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch13:6494-6635 opinion first hand
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Kary Mullis considers the idea that an alien culture would need human DNA to survive very unlikely, and finds implausible the scale of alien presence suggested by some of the bleaker alien abduction tales.
“He feels that the idea of an alien culture needing our DNA to survive is very unlikely and finds implausible the existence of an alien presence on the scale suggested by some of the bleaker alien abduction tales.”
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Harvard psychiatrist John Mack visited Australia in 1996 to research the subject of alien abduction.
“When Harvard psychiatrist John Mack visited Australia to research the subject of alien abduction in 1996,40 he took the opportunity to regress Peter to try to clarify the 1988 experience beyond the moment of blankness after the needle was inserted in his head.”
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Vicki Klein's story prefigured the notion of "star children" within the alien abduction phenomenon.
“Vicki Klein’s story prefigured one other provocative aspect of the UFO abduction phenomenon, and that is the notion of “star children.””
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Abductees in Western abduction accounts also mention the presence of other helpless abductees aboard the alleged alien craft.
“Abductees in the West also mention the presence of other helpless abductees aboard the “ship.””
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Credo Mutwa considers Africa to have been totally ignored by many arms of Western research into the abduction phenomenon, and argues there is more to learn in Africa than on any other continent.
“CM: Africa has been totally ignored by many arms of research in the Western world, and people like me can’t correct this great injustice and imbalance. There is more to learn in Africa than in any other continent on earth.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:47060-47272 opinion first hand
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Folklorist T. E. Bullard lists capture, examination, conference, tour, otherworldly journeys, theophany, and return as recurring elements of UFO abduction narratives.
“Folklorist Dr. T. E. Bullard lists the following elements of UFO abduction narratives: capture; examination (which includes tales of specimen taking, reproductive examinations, implanting of small artifacts inside the abductees, and removal of organs); conference (the witness talks with abductors); tour; otherworldly journeys; theophany (the witness has a religious experience or receives a message from a divine being); return”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:56620-57052 administrative second hand
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Robert Lawlor considers that the extraterrestrial explanation for UFO abductions plays into the vanities of the evolutionary worldview of the Western world.
“who suggested that the ET perspective plays into the vanities of the evolutionary worldview of the Western world”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:60414-60521 opinion second hand
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Robert Lawlor suggests that the rash of modern UFO abduction experiences may in part be due to the effects of an increase of industrial energies or electromagnetic pollution on human neural perception.
“Lawlor suggests that the rash of modern UFO abduction experiences may in part be due to the effects of an increase of industrial energies or electromagnetic pollution on our neural perception modalities”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch17:60726-60918 opinion second hand
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Bill Chalker is aware of no case to date of a credible video, webcam, or photographic image of an alien abduction that has been thoroughly investigated, well documented, and made widely available for peer review by UFO researchers and interested scientists.
“I am aware of no case to date of a credible video, webcam, or photographic image of an alien abduction that has been thoroughly investigated, well documented, and made widely available for peer review by UFO researchers and interested scientists.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:15687-15922 opinion first hand
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While the Ambient Monitoring Project device is in her home, the abductee keeps a daily journal of experiences related to the alien abduction phenomenon, which is later matched up to the physical data.
“While the device is in her home, the abductee keeps a daily journal of experiences related to the abduction phenomenon. Then, when the data collection period is over, the journal will be matched up to the physical data to see what was recorded at those times when a person thinks that she may have been abducted”
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Bill Chalker considers that the phrase "science as a candle in the dark" should have a broader reference, and that science should be used to examine any unknown, specifically that science should light the way in the study of alien abductions.
“But I feel the phrase should have a broader reference. I think that science should be used to examine any unknown, and specifically that science should indeed light the way in the study of alien abductions.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:30451-30646 opinion first hand
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Treating the scene of an alleged alien abduction as a crime scene is one of the best ways to obtain physical evidence, an approach advocated for about a decade as of 2005.
“One of the best ways to obtain physical evidence is to treat the scene of an alleged alien abduction as a “crime scene.” This approach has now been advocated for about a decade”
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The alien abduction phenomenon has not to date provided the kind of physical evidence that would persuade a scientist.
“The abduction phenomenon is an extraordinarily complex human drama, but to date it has not provided the kind of physical evidence that would persuade a scientist.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch18:90-242 opinion first hand
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In 1993, researcher Victoria Alexander called for a new protocol for alien abduction research using the techniques of criminal investigations.
“In 1993 researcher Victoria Alexander issued a call to arms for a “new protocol for abduction research” using the techniques of criminal investigations.”
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Alien abduction cases can sometimes provide the sort of physical evidence found in more traditional UFO cases, such as ground markings left behind in UFO landings.
“abduction cases can sometimes provide the sort of physical evidence found in more traditional UFO cases, like the ground markings that may be left behind in UFO landings”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch19:115-276 opinion first hand
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Bill Chalker argues for revisiting the validity of links between Tuatha de Danann legends, fairy folklore, and modern-day alien abduction lore.
“I think this argues well for revisiting the validity of the links between the Tuatha legends, fairy folklore, and modern-day alien abduction lore.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch20:29354-29495 opinion first hand
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Bill Chalker chooses the forensic and scientific investigation approach to alien abduction research and hopes others will support this direction.
“I choose the latter, and I hope others will share and support this direction.”
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Bill Chalker believes every contact leaves traces, some hidden and others more obvious, which can yield evidence to illuminate the alien abduction mystery.
“I believe every contact leaves traces, some hidden, others more obvious, which can yield evidence to illuminate our way through this extraordinary mystery.”
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Bill Chalker believes the real challenge for alien abduction researchers is to determine whether DNA-related anomalies found in abduction cases are both valid and significant.
“the real challenge ahead for researchers is to determine if these anomalies are both valid and significant.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:1420-1515 opinion first hand
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Bill Chalker believes abduction researchers should cooperate in a testing programme focused on DNA profiling.
“To do this, abduction researchers should cooperate in a testing program focused on DNA profiling.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:1529-1616 opinion first hand
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Bill Chalker believes testing a significant number of legitimate samples would provide an opportunity for validation of unusual DNA anomalies found in alien abduction cases to date.
“Testing a significant number of legitimate samples would provide an opportunity for validation of the unusual anomalies found to date.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:1627-1756 opinion first hand
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Bill Chalker believes a strategy of expanding DNA testing could help determine whether aliens are a biological reality and whether any are visiting Earth and abducting humans.
“Such a strategy could help us determine whether the aliens are a biological reality and if indeed any of them are visiting our planet and abducting humans.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch21:1859-2007 opinion first hand
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Bill Chalker believes the alien abduction mystery strikes at the heart of the significant issue of "humans" originating from elsewhere.
“it seems that the alien abduction mystery strikes at the very heart of a profoundly significant issue—that of “humans” from elsewhere.”
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Bill Chalker believes the UFO research community can either continue in the uncertainty of unverified accounts and unsubstantiated theories, or anchor strange events with forensic and scientific investigation to yield verifiable evidence on the reality of alien abductions.
“It can continue to languish in the uncertainty of unverified accounts and unsubstantiated theories, or it can attempt to anchor these strange events with the focused attention of forensic and scientific investigations and research, in order to yield verifiable evidence on the reality of alien abductions, whatever that turns out to be.”
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Bill Chalker considers it possible that UFOs and alien abductions will one day no longer be regarded as a fringe or "forbidden science."
“Maybe one day UFOs and alien abductions will no longer be a fringe or "forbidden science."”
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The Anomaly Physical Evidence Group (APEG) was formed to focus attention on biological strategies in alien abduction investigations.
“The APEG was formed to focus attention on biological strategies in abduction investigations.”
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Kary Mullis is the only Nobel Prize laureate to admit to a possible alien abduction experience.
“Mullis has a further unique claim to fame. He is the only Nobel Prize laureate to admit to a possible alien abduction experience.”
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Bill Chalker considers the application of Edmond Locard's "every contact leaves a trace" principle to be of critical significance in the controversial area of alien abductions.
“While Locard clearly had in mind crime committed by human felons, the application of the principle in the very controversial area of "alien abductions" is of critical significance.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch7:8902-9069 opinion first hand
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During 2002 and 2003, research conducted at Harvard University reignited the idea of psychological mechanisms as a possible explanation for alien abduction reports.
“During 2002 and 2003 research conducted at Harvard University reignited the idea of psychological mechanisms as a possible explanation for alien abduction reports.”
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Susan Clancy and Richard McNally's paper examined false memory creation in people who reported having recovered memories of traumatic events unlikely to have occurred, specifically abduction by space aliens.
“"False memory creation was examined in people who reported having recovered memories of traumatic events that are unlikely to have occurred: abduction by space aliens," states the abstract to their paper, which was published in the Journal of Abnormal Psychology.”
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The researchers examined false recall and false recognition in three groups: people reporting recovered memories of alien abduction, people who believe they were abducted by aliens but have no memories, and people who deny having been abducted by aliens.
“The researchers examined false recall and false recognition in three groups: "people reporting recovered memories of alien abduction, people who believe they were abducted by aliens but have no memories, and people who deny having been abducted by aliens."”
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Those reporting recovered and repressed memories of alien abduction were more prone than control participants to exhibit false recall and recognition.
“"Those reporting recovered and repressed memories of alien abduction were more prone than control participants to exhibit false recall and recognition.”
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Hypnotic suggestibility, depressive symptoms, and schizotypic features were significant predictors of false recall and false recognition in Susan Clancy and Richard McNally's study of alleged alien abductees.
“Hypnotic suggestibility, depressive symptoms, and schizotypic features were significant predictors of false recall and false recognition."”
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None of the participants interviewed in Susan Clancy and Richard McNally's study reported continuous memories of alien abduction, meaning memories that were never forgotten.
“"None of the participants interviewed reported continuous memories of alien abduction (i.e., memories of alien abduction that were never forgotten)… .”
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In Susan Clancy and Richard McNally's study, memories of alien abduction were recovered both in therapy with therapeutic techniques such as hypnosis, and spontaneously after reading books, watching movies, or seeing television shows depicting such episodes.
“Memories were recovered both in therapy with the help of certain therapeutic techniques (e.g., hypnosis) and spontaneously, after reading books, watching movies, or seeing television shows depicting such episodes."”
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Bill Chalker states that a significant number of people reporting alien abductions do not rely on hypnosis and other therapeutic techniques, and their memories are based on clearly recollected incidents for which they have no memory loss or delayed recall.
“In fact, there are a significant number of people reporting abductions who do not rely on hypnosis and other therapeutic techniques. Their memories are based on clearly recollected incidents for which they have no memory loss or delayed recall.”
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Bill Chalker considers it important to concentrate on a broad forensic approach to alien abduction experiences, with physical evidence at the heart of these investigations wherever possible.
“Such uncertainties make it all the more important to concentrate on a broad forensic approach to abduction experiences, but physical evidence, wherever possible, needs to be at the heart of these investigations.”
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Peter Khoury was unaware of any similar encounter in the wider UFO experience and was relatively unaware of the extent of the alien abduction phenomenon or its literature at the time of the 23 July 1992 bedroom encounter.
“Peter was unaware of any similar encounter in the wider UFO experience, although he stressed that he was relatively unaware of the extent of the phenomenon or the literature.”
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Bill Chalker had not come across another case where an abduction experience occurred during the day or morning hours, noting such experiences had always previously occurred at night or in early hours such as three in the morning.
“I don’t think I had come across a case where an abduction experience had occurred during the day or morning hours—seven o’clock in the morning. It has always been nighttime or early hours such as three, never during the daylight.”
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Bill Chalker has investigated alien abduction claims since the 1970s.
“I am no stranger to extraordinary claims in the bizarre world of alien abduction stories, having quietly investigated abduction claims since the seventies.”
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Abductees typically describe the humanoid figures they encountered as ranging in height from approximately 0.9 metres to nearly 1.5 metres.
“these people were describing figures again who roughly the descriptions run from very small three feet or so to maybe up to almost five feet”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:01:43.6-00:01:52.7 observation first hand
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In alien abduction cases, the process by which memory of the experience is suppressed appears to be imperfect, sometimes leaving partial conscious recollection rather than complete memory loss.
“this is part of the vagaries of recollection of these cases it's as if the wiping out of the memory is an imperfect science as far as they're concerned they seem to be able to block the memory but not always exactly”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:02:10.5-00:02:22.5 opinion first hand
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One abductee experienced a missing-time period of approximately two hours during an abduction, but afterward forgot all events of the entire following week while continuing to go about his normal daily activities.
“one man had an abduction experience which involved a missing time period of about two hours but subsequently he forgot all the events of the whole week...he went to work he came home his family were in touch with him”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:02:30.2-00:02:46.1 testimony first hand
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An abductee told Budd Hopkins that if he saw the beings enter his bedroom while a gun lay on his bedside table, he would use the gun to kill himself rather than to shoot them, because of the terror the experience caused, an event that had actually happened to him without the gun present.
“if I were in my bed and I have a gun on my bed table and I saw them come in the door, which had happened to him in his bedroom...He said I'd pick up the gun and kill myself...Not them. Himself. Because the terror was that great.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:06:05.5-00:06:23.2 testimony first hand
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Budd Hopkins is convinced that in at least three cases, a person was driven to suicide as a result of their UFO abduction experiences.
“I have at least three cases where I'm absolutely convinced that a person was tipped over the edge into suicide because of their UFO experiences.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:06:33.9-00:06:41.4 opinion first hand
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In one case, a craft described as perfectly black descended at night above a building, and an abductee was taken up by a beam of light through their apartment building's window.
“A craft has come down perfectly black, dark at night, right above a building and a person has taken up a beam right out through their apartment building or whatever.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:07:13.4-00:07:23.1 testimony first hand
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Psychological testing of abductees found patterns of deficits similar to those found in tests conducted with rape victims.
“the patterns that we've gotten psychologically are very similar according to psychologists of the sorts of deficits that turn up in tests done with rape victims”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:09:30.3-00:09:38.2 observation first hand
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Psychologically tested abductees showed a pattern of lowered self-esteem, a great fear about the outer world, and a lack of trust in their own bodies.
“a sense of lowered self-esteem, a sense of great fear about the outer world, and a sense of not trusting their own bodies, their own physicality.”
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Budd Hopkins believes abductees are tracked because of their genetic lineage, being descendants of people who had already been abducted, so that abductions run across generations within a bloodline rather than occurring randomly.
“the big thing is that we're dealing with people who are being tracked because of their genetic position...they are the daughter or son of somebody who has already been abducted so we're going across generations it doesn't seem to be random that way...they definitely seem to lock on to people who are in a certain bloodline”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:11:12.4-00:11:30.7 opinion first hand
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A woman abductee made a drawing depicting what she was shown at a facility she described as a nursery where fetuses are developed, including an adult-like figure and a small fetus-like being inside a tank-like container.
“This slide we have here is from a drawing made by a woman who was shown evidently at the nursery where these little fetuses are developed. The figure at the left was her idea of the more adult figure and the little fetus in the foreground fetus-like thing...the little tank is the object in which the thing was floated”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:12:14.6-00:12:36.4 testimony first hand
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A scoop mark with an adjoining straight-line cut was found on the leg of a woman about 32 years old, resulting from an event when she was about four years old living in France.
“there's a straight line cut to one side and the scoop mark down at the end of it. This occurred...on the leg of a woman who is now about 32 years old. And this occurred when she was about four living in France.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:15:38.9-00:15:55.2 observation first hand
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An abductee who worked with Budd Hopkins developed a lifelong fear of black widow spiders after, as a five-year-old, waking in the night to see a spider's nest with two black widow spiders in the corner of his bedroom window.
“mine started when I was five years old. I was sleeping in my little bed right next to the window. I remember I woke up in the middle of the night. And right in the corner of the window was a spider's nest with a couple of black widow spiders in it.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:21:17.2-00:21:30.0 hearsay second hand
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The morning after seeing the black widow spider's nest, the abductee's mother told him there was nothing in the window and no nest was found there.
“In the morning, I just screamed from my mother. And I asked her to take away the spider's nest. And she said, there's nothing there in the window. And he said, you know, there wasn't. There was nothing there.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:21:36.2-00:21:46.4 hearsay second hand
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The abductee's mother explained to him that black widow spiders do not build nests in sunlit areas like a window, but go under porches and similar sheltered places.
“my mother explained that black widow spiders don't build nests in a sunlit area like a window. They go under porches and back under things.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:21:48.2-00:21:54.2 hearsay second hand
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From the night he saw the black widow spider's nest, the abductee developed a lasting fear of black widow spiders and would go out for years searching for them, killing them with stones when he found them.
“from that moment on, I developed this terrible fear of black widow spiders. And I would go out looking for them to kill them he said I was scared of them but I wanted to kill them and I would get stones and I would go back under decks and places and I would see find them and I would smash them and I said this went on for years”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:21:57.4-00:22:15.2 hearsay second hand
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The abductee who feared black widow spiders had, as an adult, been involved in gun battles, yet still said the thought of black widow spiders scared him and that he hated them.
“this is a guy who's had been involved in gun battles he said still to think of them scares me and I hate them”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:22:16.4-00:22:22.2 hearsay second hand
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A man who worked with Budd Hopkins described being lifted up in a light beam as a little boy into a UFO, an experience he identified as a typical alien abduction.
“There's a man who was lifted up in a light beam as a little boy into a UFO, an abduction experience, a typical story.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:23:01.9-00:23:09.9 hearsay second hand
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The same abductee recalled that, as a small boy shortly after the light-beam experience, he held a toy soldier in a sunbeam coming through Venetian blinds, let go, and was upset that the toy soldier fell to the floor instead of remaining suspended, repeating the attempt two or three times with the same result.
“he said the Venetian blinds were at a slant and this beautiful light beam, sunbeam was coming through the Venetian blinds and he had a little toy soldier and he was quite small this is right after this experience he picked up the little toy soldier held it in the light beam and let go and the thing fell to the floor he couldn't figure it out he was very upset he picked it up and held it in the sunbeam two or three times let go and each time of course it fell to the floor and he went in crying to his mother that the beam wasn't holding the soldier”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:23:22.3-00:23:50.3 hearsay second hand
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The abductee's mother had no explanation for why the light beam should have held up the toy soldier.
“She had no idea why it should hold a soldier.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:23:53.8-00:23:55.4 hearsay second hand
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The same abductee recalled that the first time he rode in an elevator in a large office building, as a small boy, he told his mother the elevator was not going fast enough, saying he knew it should go faster than that even though his mother pointed out he had never been on an elevator before.
“This boy said that the first time he was taken around that time to a large office building where there was an elevator. He got in the elevator with his mother and he said, it's not going fast enough. It's too slow. It's not going fast enough. And she said, but you've never been on an elevator before. He said, I know, but they go faster than this.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:23:59.0-00:24:16.5 hearsay second hand
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The same abductee, when the elevator doors opened on the 12th floor of the office building, said 'we're still in the building', which his mother could not explain.
“And then when the doors opened on the 12th floor, and he stepped out, he said, we're still in the building. And she couldn't understand where all this was coming from.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:24:17.7-00:24:26.7 hearsay second hand
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Budd Hopkins considers such incongruous childhood remarks and behaviours, which he calls a 'skeleton key effect', to be usually much more profound in other cases than the light examples he described.
“this skeleton key effect, and this is just a touching on the situation. It's usually much more profound than what I'm, these are little light examples.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:24:28.6-00:24:36.9 opinion first hand
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Budd Hopkins considers that people who have had alien abduction experiences behave as if they had been leading secret lives they knew nothing about.
“it's as if people who had these experiences had been leading secret lives that they knew nothing about.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:24:38.5-00:24:43.3 opinion first hand
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Budd Hopkins considers that people abducted 10, 20, or 30 times become conditioned by these experiences.
“if they had been abducted 10 or 20 or 30 times, they're conditioned by these experiences”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:24:43.9-00:24:50.4 opinion first hand
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Budd Hopkins was working on ways to help abductees regain a sense of their own power or the illusion of control, describing this as very difficult but a problem that must be addressed.
“we're working on ways in which they can begin to regain a sense of their own power to regain the illusion of control or something is very very difficult but the problem must be addressed”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:24:51.6-00:25:04.1 testimony first hand
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Budd Hopkins described himself as being in the position of working with abduction experiencers to get them through their trauma and explore what had happened to them.
“I'm in the position of working with people just to get them through the trauma and try to explore what's happened.”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:25:07.0-00:25:16.7 testimony first hand
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Budd Hopkins described himself as having been so occupied with immediate emergency work with abduction experiencers that he had not had a chance to address the broader public health issues raised by the phenomenon.
“my sense of myself is that I've been so busy in the emergency room running around with the band-aids and the tourniquets that I haven't had a chance to approach the public health issues that we really have to have to address”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:25:20.4-00:25:31.6 opinion first hand
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Budd Hopkins considers that the alien abduction phenomenon may involve hundreds of thousands of people, and possibly larger numbers than that.
“the abduction situation may involve hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people maybe larger numbers than that”
What The Aliens Look Like: Disturbing Research by Budd Hopkins on ET Abductions (1988) 2024-10-05 00:25:36.8-00:25:44.7 opinion first hand
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Barry Williams stated in a lecture that alien abductions involving female witnesses are attributable to the menstrual cycle.
“he's another one that made a comment that, um, uh, alien abductions with females happens due to the menstrual cycle.”
UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:38:25.3-01:38:32.5 opinion second hand
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Ross Coulthart, like John Mack, is wrestling with the abduction phenomenon, which he prefers to describe more neutrally as the experience phenomenon in which people claim to have been taken somewhere.
“like John Mack did, the abduction phenomenon, or let's call it more neutrally, the experience of phenomenon where people claim to have moments where they have been taken somewhere.”
The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:39:15.3-01:39:28.4 opinion first hand
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Some reported episodes of being taken by non-human beings appear to be voluntary on the part of the experiencer.
“Sometimes it seems to be voluntary.”
The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:39:29.8-01:39:30.8 opinion first hand
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Chris Ramsay considers that the majority of reported interactions with non-human beings are non-physical, occurring in an in-between realm that is not quite a dream and that can nevertheless leave physical markings on the experiencer, a problem John Mack also wrestled with.
“that's something John Mack wrestled with as well, was the majority of these interactions with these beings seems to be non-physical. And that doesn't necessarily mean a dream. There is some type of in-between non-physical realm that isn't quite a dream and that can even leave you with physical markings.”
The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:43:40.1-01:44:03.4 opinion first hand
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Dan Burisch said that non-human beings, when looked at in the eyes, flood a person with their own endorphins and produce a sense of calm, peace and near-euphoria, creating a false sense of familiarity, and that it was rogue entities who took people at night who did this.
“there are tales from people like Dan Burisch... he would also say that these beings would when looking into their eyes flood you with your own endorphins and give you a sense of calm and peace and almost euphoria... he said that it was the rogue entities the ones that took you at night that did that to you”
The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:49:34.4-01:49:58.7 hearsay second hand
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A woman in her late 80s told Ross Coulthart that a doctor found her body carried the classic signs of having carried a baby, although she had no memory of ever being pregnant and there was no longer any evidence of a child.
“there's a lady I'm talking to, she's in her 80s, her late 80s... she actually went to a doctor and discovered that she'd been pregnant, but she had no memory of ever being pregnant, but her body had the classic signs of somebody who'd carried a baby. And yet there was no evidence of that anymore.”
The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:52:19.5-01:52:46.3 hearsay second hand
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A woman in her late 80s told Ross Coulthart that she has been in contact with benevolent beings who showed her what is planned for the foetus taken from her body.
“she tells me this incredible story about how she's been in touch with what she says are benevolent beings that have shown her what's planned for the fetus that they took from her body.”
The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:52:48.5-01:53:00.3 hearsay second hand
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Ross Coulthart has been told the same account of a missing pregnancy following contact with non-human beings by five or six different people.
“Do we, after five or six people have told me the same thing, start giving it like John Mack did, a degree of credibility?”
The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:53:12.4-01:53:18.9 testimony first hand
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John Mack granted a degree of credibility to abduction accounts once multiple witnesses reported the same experience.
“start giving it like John Mack did, a degree of credibility?”
The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:53:15.6-01:53:18.9 opinion first hand
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Ross Coulthart has recently begun investigating the alien abduction phenomenon cautiously, and admits to being somewhat afraid of the subject as a journalist because many people drawn to it are mentally ill and make dramatic claims.
“That's where I'm sort of wrestling with at the moment, with the abduction phenomenon, because I've started going very gently down that rabbit hole. And I freely admit, as a journalist, I'm a bit scared of it, because there are so many people who are, with no disrespect to them, mentally ill, who are drawn to this subject matter. who make dramatic claims.”
The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:53:20.4-01:53:43.2 opinion first hand
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Ross Coulthart holds that many people reporting contact experiences are highly credible, intelligent professional people who have had an experience they cannot explain and strongly believe involved a non-human intelligence.
“a lot of these people are highly credible, intelligent, professional people who just happen to have an experience that they can't explain, that involves them very strongly believing that they've been in touch with a non-human intelligence.”
The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:53:55.9-01:54:13.7 opinion first hand
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Erik Nanstiel expresses hatred toward the Greys, angered at being shown children he can never touch, love, hold or know as part of his abduction experiences.
“The word abduction itself doesn't encompass the loss of agency, you know, and to be shown children I can never touch or love or hold or know. That just makes me shake with anger. You know, I hate these people. I hate them.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 00:01:59.5-00:02:19.4 opinion
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Erik Nanstiel realised the childhood orbs were connected to his abductions only after watching an episode of Ancient Aliens that showed cast members live on stage at an AlienCon discussing orbs in connection with their own abduction encounters.
“it was only after watching an episode of ancient aliens where they... showed the cast live on stage at an alien con and somebody was talking about orbs and they were, they also had abduction encounters. So they saw orbs”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 00:28:40.3-00:29:08.2 testimony first hand
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Erik Nanstiel believes the beings follow a schedule along family lines, returning every 20 years for a four-year rotation during which they come every four to six weeks, producing roughly 48 or more encounters over the four years before a 20-year gap.
“They seem to follow family lines. And they have a schedule and they seem to, every 20 years, they'll come for a four-year rotation and they'll come every four to six weeks for four years. So you'll have a rash... like 48 encounters over a four-year period... And then 20 years off and then it happens again.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 00:39:47.2-00:40:19.1 opinion
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Chris Ramsay says that although coverage of the abduction phenomenon seems to have dissipated, many abductees he speaks to disagree and maintain it is still happening today.
“it seems to have dissipated in some way compared to... But I speak to a lot of people who are abductees and they, they tend to disagree. They're like, no, this is ongoing. This is still happening today.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 00:40:31.2-00:40:52.2 opinion
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Erik Nanstiel says the abduction phenomenon, while possibly made passe in popular culture, is still very strongly ongoing.
“popular culture might have uh made it passe over the years sure but it's still very strong going on”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 00:40:54.4-00:41:00.0 opinion
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The older greys have thin translucent skin revealing a dense capillary bed, consistent with reports that they excrete waste, and abductees often smell ammonia, burnt rubber or sulfur, though Erik Nanstiel never smelled anything in his encounters.
“The older ones, they have thinner skin and it's more translucent. So you can see that there's like a dense capillary bed under the skin. And that jibes with the detail that we learned from some reports that they excrete waste. And a lot of times abductees would smell a horrible ammonia smell or a smell of like burnt rubber, sulfur. I never smelled anything in my encounters.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 01:17:42.7-01:18:14.3 testimony first hand
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Many experiencers and abductees report being taken aboard craft and told by the entities that they are part of a chosen group, that their time will come soon, and that they are doing good work and will be rewarded, alongside apocalyptic foreshadowing.
“according to many experiencers and abductees, it seems to be the case as well. Like, there are a lot of people who go on board these craft ... talking to these entities who tell them things like, You are part of a chosen group. Your time will come soon. You're doing good work and you'll be rewarded when this all happens.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 01:41:22.9-01:41:44.7 hearsay second hand
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Erik Nanstiel's mother had a miscarriage in early 1968 before he was conceived, during a period she was likely being visited, and the fetus was missing from that miscarriage.
“the same thing happened to my mother um she wasn't presented with a strange child but uh she had a miscarriage before i was conceived in early 1968 she had a miscarriage um and again the the fetus was missing from that ... she was likely being visited”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 01:50:59.1-01:51:28.1 testimony first hand
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During the 2022 arm surgery encounter, Erik Nanstiel did not experience a fear response but a restrained panicked awareness and dissociation, which he describes as typical of his encounters.
“the fear response that you would naturally have in such an instance was still gone. I didn't have a fear response, but I had like a... a restrained panicked awareness it's hard to describe like this this this can't be real like a dissociation”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:19:39.5-02:20:00.0 testimony first hand
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During encounters Erik Nanstiel could move his head but not his body, being paralysed.
“like in other encounters where i was paralyzed i could move my head but not my body”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:20:00.0-02:20:19.2 testimony first hand
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The symptoms of sleep paralysis (occurring at night, being awake, paralysed, and feeling real) resemble alien abduction experiences, making it a fair assumption for some cases.
“there are similarities to draw lines between sleep paralysis, especially with it's at night, you're up, you're paralyzed, it feels real. Like all of these are symptoms of sleep paralysis”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:27:58.4-02:28:12.5 opinion
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Erik Nanstiel describes the entrancement experienced during abduction as most similar to the dissociation a person undergoes during trauma, seeing events in slow motion.
“the closest thing to the entrancement that you experience during abduction is more similar to uh the dissociation like your disconnect when when you're you're going through something traumatic you're disconnecting from it and you're seeing everything in slow motion”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:32:11.0-02:32:34.3 opinion
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Erik Nanstiel maintains his abductions were always physical, not non-physical, citing physical symptoms afterwards.
“no i had physical symptoms afterwards... no they were always physical”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:32:44.9-02:32:57.3 testimony first hand
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On one occasion Erik Nanstiel was forced to have intercourse during an abduction, feeling everything physically while having no control over his actions, an experience he did not include in his book.
“one time one time uh i was forced to have intercourse and i didn't talk about this in the book it bothered me but uh you you felt everything but you had no control over your actions”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:32:53.3-02:33:19.5 testimony first hand
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During the forced intercourse encounter, a screen memory prevented Erik Nanstiel from remembering what he was actually seeing, though the physical sensation was real.
“There was this screen memory was working that time, and I couldn't remember what I was actually seeing, but the physical sensation down below was real.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:33:30.5-02:33:48.4 testimony first hand
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Chris Ramsay argues that for every person who has experiences and sells a book, there are a thousand others not selling a book telling the same story, so the profit-motive argument is invalid.
“for every person who's had experiences who's selling a book there are a thousand other people who are not selling a book who are telling the exact same story and so you know that argument for me isn't valid at all”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:40:13.6-02:40:57.2 opinion
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Erik Nanstiel argues the word abduction fails to capture the total loss of agency the Greys (extraterrestrial beings) impose, controlling a person's neurology and robbing them of the ability to think clearly, unlike human-on-human abduction where a victim retains a modicum of control.
“in terms of humans abducting humans, you don't have somebody controlling another person's neurology. Robbing them of the ability to think clearly, robbing them of of their agency... The greys don't allow you even that much. They take everything from you.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:47:41.5-02:49:36.9 opinion
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Erik Nanstiel says the Greys (extraterrestrial beings) can force a person to have sex, to be still, or keep their mind clouded and confused, preventing them from formulating an objection or escape.
“If they want you to have sex with somebody, they can make you have sex with somebody. If they want you to be still, they can force you to be still... they can keep your mind clouded and confused the entire time”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:48:50.4-02:49:12.0 testimony first hand
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Erik Nanstiel was raised Christian and is aware of the religious-fundamentalist claim that abductions are demons that depart if one invokes the name of Christ, but argues abductees are not even given the opportunity to formulate an objection.
“sometimes religious fundamentalists will say, oh, your abductions are merely demons... they'll go away if you invoke the name of Christ. Well, I was raised Christian. I'm aware of the concept. You're not even given the opportunity to formulate an objection”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:50:12.5-02:50:41.1 opinion
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Jacques Vallee advises constant experiencers and abductees that they should want to get rid of the phenomenon contacting them.
“Like you talk to Jacques Vallée, he'll be like, yeah, like you, you want to get rid of this thing. If, if you know you, if you're, you know, a constant experience or an abductee or whatever.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:22:22.2-00:22:32.1 hearsay second hand
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Jesse Michels considers grey aliens to have a robotic, droid-like mandate, showing up, saying do not fear, inserting a thing and subduing the witness, which feels automated.
“even gray aliens, which seem to have this very robotic droid, like kind of mandate. where they show up and they go do not fear do not fear and they insert the thing and they kind of subdue you or whatever like all of that feels somewhat automated”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:03:22.5-01:03:35.8 opinion first hand
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An experiencer present at the Washington DC meeting described in Shirley MacLaine's Going Within claimed she was part of an alien hybrid programme and that her foetus went missing three months into the pregnancy, according to Jesse Michels.
“And I think has an experiencer there who she claims that like she was, you know, there was part of some alien hybrid program or whatever. And her fetus went missing three months in.”
The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:01:31.6-02:01:41.9 hearsay third hand
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A foetus going missing about three months into a pregnancy is a commonly reported element among people interested in the alien abduction thread, according to Jesse Michels.
“which is a common thing if you talk to people who are, you know, interested in the abduction thread.”
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Betty and Barney Hill were the subjects of America's first famous alien abduction case.
“[note: Betty and Barney Hill - Subjects of America's first famous abduction case]”
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Chris Ramsay believes a majority of alien abductions happen in the non-physical, with the soul body pulled out of the physical body and taken through the wall, the beings themselves also being non-physical and passing through walls.
“many many many many of the abductions i would say possibly a vast majority ... are happening in the non-physical where the soul body is sort of pulled out of the body and through the wall that these beings themselves run through the walls and they are also non-physical”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:04:43.8-01:05:05.4 opinion first hand
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Bob Mitchell was a writer and journalist who documented the accounts of people who reported alien abductions.
“there's this, uh, writer, his name was Bob Mitchell. ... he was documenting experiences of abduction. That was his thing. ... He was a journalist. So he took down everybody's story that had abductions.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:05:23.2-01:05:37.8 administrative first hand
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Jason Quitt has long argued that in an alien abduction the person's consciousness is taken out of their body, and that because the experiencer has never had such an experience before it feels so real that they conclude they were taken physically.
“this is like your consciousness is being taken out of your body and because you've never had this experience before it's so real that of course you think you're taking physically”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:05:44.4-01:05:56.4 opinion first hand
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In Bob Mitchell's abduction cases, as he described them to Jason Quitt, the experiencer is first woken in the middle of the night and feels their body is frozen and unable to move in bed.
“well, at first they get woken up, let's say in the middle of the night, they feel like their body is frozen. They can't move in their bed.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:06:21.2-01:06:26.9 hearsay third hand
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In Bob Mitchell's abduction cases, as he described them to Jason Quitt, the experiencer then feels a buzzing or warm sensation.
“they may start to uh feel like a buzzing or a warm sensation”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:06:31.0-01:06:34.4 hearsay third hand
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In Bob Mitchell's abduction cases, as he described them to Jason Quitt, the experiencer may hear metallic sounds.
“they may hear like metallic sounds”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:06:35.0-01:06:36.4 hearsay third hand
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In Bob Mitchell's abduction cases, as he described them to Jason Quitt, a separation then occurs and the experiencer finds themselves floating above their bed.
“and then there's like a separation it's like that now they're floating above their bed”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:06:36.9-01:06:41.4 hearsay third hand
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In Bob Mitchell's abduction cases, as he described them to Jason Quitt, either a white light comes in or the experiencer is taken through the windows or walls, and they then find themselves in a ship with beings present.
“and now they go either like a white light comes in or they get taken through the windows or the walls and now they find themselves in a ship and there's beings”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:06:42.8-01:06:50.0 hearsay third hand
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Jason Quitt wrote down the stages of his own out-of-body experiences and found them almost exactly the same, step by step, as the stages reported by people documenting their own abduction scenarios.
“Now, let me write down exactly my out of body experiences. ... it's like exactly from one to 10, almost exactly the same as someone that's, um, documenting their own abduction scenario.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:06:52.1-01:07:02.6 testimony first hand
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Jason Quitt considers the same experiences very terrifying and very real for someone who has them without being aware of what they are.
“Whereas someone that is having these experiences where they're not aware, it's very terrifying. It's very real.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:07:30.5-01:07:36.8 opinion first hand
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In his own out-of-body states Jason Quitt encountered mantid beings of the kind described in abduction accounts.
“in my own personal out-of-body states is that I've come in contact with, again, beings that are described in abduction scenarios. So I'd come across those mantids.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:07:40.9-01:07:50.3 testimony first hand
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Jason Quitt does not discount other people's physical alien abduction experiences.
“I'm not discounting any physical things whatsoever. I I'm not discounting anybody else's physical experiences”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:08:06.4-01:08:12.4 opinion first hand
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During a plant-medicine ceremony the participant's friends are physically beside them on the ground singing songs and burning sage, while in the participant's own experience they are not present but aboard a ship, sometimes being operated on or healed.
“their friends will be right with them on the ground ... singing their songs or putting sage around them ... But in their experience, they're not there. They're on a ship. Sometimes they're being operated on, they're being healed.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:08:47.1-01:09:02.2 testimony first hand
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Chris Ramsay considers that the correlation between abduction accounts and out-of-body experiences should not stop researchers studying why the same beings are seen.
“I think there is definitely a correlation, but that shouldn't stop us from studying, you know, what is going on. Like, why are we seeing the same beings?”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:10:41.0-01:10:48.0 opinion first hand
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Through long involvement in the UFO community Jason Quitt has met many people claiming to be whistleblowers, insiders, contactees or abductees, and considers that there is definitely something going on.
“being in this community for so long, you meet so many people, people that claim to be whistleblowers or insiders or contactees or abductees. And there's definitely something going on.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:56:24.6-01:56:36.0 testimony first hand
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Bob Mitchell was a journalist who recorded the accounts of experiencers of alien abduction and was heavily involved in UFO mythology.
“Bob Mitchell was the guy who was the journalist who loved taking down experiencers' stories in alien abduction. So he was heavily involved in UFO mythology.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 02:04:54.0-02:05:06.0 administrative first hand
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Chris Ramsay considers Debbie Jordan, covered by Budd Hopkins in the book Intruders, one of the first cases in which human-alien hybrid children were talked about.
“ever since, I think Debbie Jordan, Deborah Jordan was like one of the first ones that, you know, The Encounters book that Bud Hopkins covered. Bud Hopkins covered. was one of the first times I think it was talked abo”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 02:05:57.1-02:06:09.6 opinion first hand
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Chris Ramsay has sat across from many experiencers who described being presented with their hybrid children.
“this idea that they were presented with their hybrid children. And I've spoken, you know, I've sat across from many an experiencer who's told me about these same things.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 02:06:10.9-02:06:21.4 testimony first hand
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In his early twenties, Jason Quitt was taken to what appeared to be a nursery hospital where a nurse told him to meet his child.
“I was taken and I was like, I was in this nursery hospital type of thing. And this, this like, um, this nurse walks out and is like, I want you to meet your child. And this was like my early twenties.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 02:07:12.6-02:07:30.5 testimony first hand
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A couple of years after the first nursery encounter, Jason Quitt was taken back to the same place and shown the child again, described to him as his son.
“a couple of years later I was taken back and I'm back in the same place and they go, I want you to see your son again. I was a son and they told me his name”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 02:08:50.6-02:09:00.3 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber is a controversial and leading figure in the study of alleged experiencer close encounters, in Ross Coulthart's assessment.
“have made him a controversial and leading figure in the study of alleged experiencer close encounters”
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Whitley Strieber's accounts of his own alleged abduction experiences began at his remote cabin in upstate New York in 1985-12.
“his personal accounts of his own paranormal abduction experiences from his remote cabin in upstate New York in December 1985”
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Under hypnosis by Donald Klein, Whitley Strieber recalled appearing to have been abducted by aliens rather than assaulted by people in masks.
“Instead of seeing people in masks and being able to identify things I could take to the police, I appeared to have been abducted by aliens, just like Budd thought.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:05:37.3-00:05:46.6 testimony first hand
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Ross Coulthart characterises what the non-human beings did to Whitley Strieber - coming to his home, planting implants, attempting to abduct his son, taking his sperm, inflicting wounds and severe trauma - as unfriendly by any definition.
“I find the whole idea of a non-human being coming to somebody's home, planting implants in them, as we'll get into abducting your son, doing, I think, terrible invasive things to you, you know, when you're in a cart, stealing your sperm, you've suffered wounds, you've suffered, I think, mental injuries as a result, trauma, severe trauma. By any definition, this is bloody unfriendly.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:30:29.9-00:30:57.8 opinion first hand
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Andrew Strieber is no longer having encounter experiences and does not remember anything about that aspect of his childhood.
“No, they're not. And he doesn't remember anything about his childhood of this stuff.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:00:05.4-01:00:10.1 testimony first hand
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The hypnosis session with Donald Klein was one of the most shocking moments of Whitley Strieber's life and opened him to the fact that the phenomenon had been in his life as a child, which he did not know until after his abduction experience.
“It was one of the most shocking moments of my life. And that opened me up to the fact that this had been in my life when I was a child. I did not know that until after the abduction experience.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:01:39.5-01:01:50.4 testimony first hand
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Chris Ramsay describes reported alien encounters, including with Nordic-type beings described by George Adamski, with mantis-like insectoid beings and with greys, as consistently accompanied by a sense of familiarity, love, compassion and calm and an impression that the beings mean the witness no harm.
“whether you're talking about like the, the sort of blonde, you know, uh, blue-eyed, blajaran, Nordic ... George Adamski spoke about ... whether they're these insect mantis looking creatures or whether it's the greys or whatever, but they always feel flooded with this sense of a familiarity, but then the sense of love and compassion, like they mean you no harm.”
Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 01:03:17.3-01:03:43.2 opinion first hand
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Julia Mossbridge proposes that reported alien visitations may be memories inserted into people's minds by an agent that understands the informational substrate, rather than events that physically happened.
“that speaks to alien visitations where people just have these things potentially inserted into their mind that didn't actually physically happen but they're insertions because if you understand the informational substrate you can do those insertions”
Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 01:09:21.5-01:09:32.9 opinion first hand
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Telepathy features in the accounts of every person who describes an abduction experience.
“There's clearly telepathy going on with every person who talks about abduction experiences.”
Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:47:32.4-02:47:37.9 opinion first hand

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