Brief
Astral projection
The claims the writer was given for Astral projection, in the order they were given.
1
Vicki Klein said that after complaining of pain from the ova-removal operation, during an astral projection she was invited by a friend to have intercourse, refused, and the friend then changed into her astral guide, whom she still refused.
““Mrs. Klein said that after she had complained of the pain caused by the ‘operation,’ during an astral projection she was invited by a friend to have intercourse, but she refused, whereupon the friend changed into her astral guide, but she still refused.”
Hair of the Alien: DNA and Other Forensic Evidence for Alien Abductions 2005-11-14 ch16:16541-16786 testimony second hand
2
On 1962-11-27 in the morning, Robert Monroe attempted an out-of-body visit to Agnew Bahnson but instead arrived in an unfamiliar bedroom where a young girl, about five or six years old, said to him "I know what you are!" and then identified him as "an astral projection".
“11/27/62 Morning ... Plan was to go to Agnew Bahnson... Was in normal-sized room, bedroom, with three people in it... The little girl looked directly at me and said excitedly, "I know what you are!"... she said, "You're an astral projection!"”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 46-50 testimony first hand
3
Foster Bradshaw gave Robert Monroe the clue that what he was experiencing was astral projection, although Bradshaw himself had only heard about such things remotely.
“Dr. Bradshaw had given me the clue, although he himself had heard about such things only remotely.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch10:16982-17071 testimony first hand
4
Robert Monroe prefers to use the terms Second Body and Second State rather than the term astral, because he does not know what the word astral means.
“As no attempt was made to delve deeply into this area, I still don’t know what the word “astral” means. Thus I prefer to stick to the terms “Second Body” and “Second State.””
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch10:17824-17990 opinion first hand
5
During his OBE training, Erik Nanstiel experienced a separation sensation accompanied by a tearing-velcro or whoosh sound, like walking through a wall in the 1990 film Ghost.
“did you see the movie ghost... when you when you walk through a ghost or walk through a wall there's like this like tearing velcro sound... That's what I felt when I was separating.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:28:45.3-02:29:03.5 testimony first hand
6
In 1995 Erik Nanstiel trained himself using astral projection techniques to wake at the same time each night until he could enter a lucid state and introduce a suggestion to separate from his body.
“And I studied it in 1995, and I was training myself to wake up at the same time every night until I didn't need the alarm anymore. And then you'd start to wake up in your sleep in a lucid state”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:29:33.7-02:29:59.4 testimony first hand
7
Erik Nanstiel succeeded at astral separation on two occasions, but felt so vulnerable each time that he freaked out and snapped back, and does not want to do it again.
“And I succeeded on two occasions. One time I woke up and the ceiling was in my face and I freaked out and I snapped back... I just felt so vulnerable anytime I'd separated that I'd freak out and snap back. I don't ever want to do it again.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:30:06.9-02:30:33.3 testimony first hand
8
Jason Quitt's recommended technique for leaving the body is to wake at about four or five in the morning, not move, stay awake while the body remains asleep, and go back down while keeping the mind aware.
“the trick that I tell people is, uh, I found the easiest was if you wake up too early. As in, let's say you wake up at like four or five in the morning ... but don't move. Just be awake. Your body is still basically asleep and then just go back there, but keep your mind aware.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:12:26.6-00:12:42.0 testimony first hand
9
A friend gave Jason Quitt the Gateway Experience tapes years after he was already astral travelling, and he listened to them to see whether they would work.
“a friend gave it to me, um, years after I was already astral traveling and I wanted to see if it would work. And so I listened to it”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:13:35.6-00:13:44.2 testimony first hand
10
Jason Quitt considers that either another intelligence exists in the out-of-body world or the astral body itself has its own intelligence which knows what to do, with the experiencer becoming the observer of it.
“there is this other intelligence in that world or the astral body itself has its own intelligence to it it knows exactly what it has to do at that time and you become the observer of it”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:20:49.0-00:21:01.6 opinion first hand
11
Jason Quitt agrees that people journey out of the body every night, but considers the astral body to remain unconscious until it is awakened.
“Chris Ramsay: ...who often say that we journey out of the body every single night, whether we know it or not, is that something you believe in? Jason Quitt: I think so too, but I would say that the astral body itself is unconscious. I think it's like, it remains in this unconscious state until you awaken it.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:30:18.9-00:30:39.7 opinion first hand
12
Once awakened, the astral body acts like a body double that comes when it is needed.
“And then once you awaken it, it's almost like this body double. that will come when it's needed.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:30:40.7-00:30:47.4 opinion first hand
13
When an entity enters the room, Jason Quitt is woken not in the physical state but in an altered state in which he sits up or turns his astral head to see out into the room.
“there's something will come into the room and you'll get awoken and you're not getting awoken in the physical state you're in this altered state where you kind of sit yourself up in bed or you don't even have to sit up you just kind of like turn your astral head and you can like kind of see out into the room”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:33:44.1-00:34:00.9 testimony first hand
14
Chris Ramsay considers there to be an interesting intersection between ufology and the study of consciousness with respect to out-of-body and astral states, because the entities described are often mirrored in both fields.
“there is an interesting intersection between ufology and the study of consciousness in regards to out-of-body and astral states, the entities are often mirrored.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:04:24.4-01:04:36.6 opinion first hand
15
Astral travel is described as having no space and no time, with different laws of physics that allow a traveller to jump to other or alternative timelines, or from one location to another through a portal, crossing time, space and dimensions instantly.
“people will explain astral travel as there's no space or there's no time. So there's different laws of physics ... jump to other timelines or alternative timelines, or jump from one location to the next, either through a portal ... in virtually no time”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:17:57.6-01:18:14.3 opinion first hand
16
Chris Ramsay sees a correlation between out-of-body and astral states and near-death experiences, because many people go out of body during a near-death experience and report the same symptoms of floating and seeing themselves.
“a lot of them, it happens during like a near death experience and they're floating, they see themselves, same symptoms... there is something here between the astral and out of body states and near death and dying.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:28:48.7-01:29:06.6 opinion first hand
17
Jason Quitt considers the astral state a transitionary world between the spiritual and the physical, a waiting area where there is no time or space.
“that's what I feel the astral state is. It's kind of like this transitionary world between the spiritual and physical. It's like the waiting area.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:34:34.9-01:34:44.3 opinion first hand
18
Jason Quitt believes a being on a planet in another universe would reach a human by leaving its body and entering the astral form, using the astral as a meeting place between worlds.
“They're going to leave their body. They're going to go into this astral form. And this is kind of like the transitionary meeting place between these worlds”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:35:01.4-01:35:08.2 opinion first hand
19
Jason Quitt believes that on death a person goes to a transitionary place where they are met by familiar beings who acclimatise them to the transition state, from which they then travel to other places.
“maybe when you do die, that's kind of the process. You go to this kind of transitionary place where you're met with beings that you're familiar with”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:35:13.4-01:35:23.2 opinion first hand
20
Jason Quitt describes being pulled from the dream state into a created room, such as a board room, where an alien sits across the table to communicate, the room being dissolved once the meeting ends.
“you're dreaming and you get pulled from your dream state into this kind of, like you say, like a, a board room and you're sitting... And when we're done, this doesn't exist anymore.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:36:44.4-01:36:54.4 testimony first hand
21
Asked by an anonymous audience member whether government disclosure matters if real contact happens in the astral, Jason Quitt considers that it will matter to some people because they are waiting for disclosure to appease a need of theirs.
“Chris Ramsay: First question here from Gui says, does government disclosure even matter if the real contact happens in the astral? Jason Quitt: It will matter to some people. Okay. Because there are people that are waiting for this disclosure to happen and to appease whatever they need.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:55:49.4-01:56:08.2 opinion first hand
22
Jason Quitt considers that government disclosure would not matter to contact occurring in the astral, because the astral is a wholly different matter.
“but will it matter if it's in the astral? Not really because you're dealing with a whole other beast.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:56:50.8-01:56:58.8 opinion first hand