Brief
Atlantis
The claims the writer was given for Atlantis, in the order they were given.
1
Grace Hooper Pettipher told her Order of Melchizedek audience that they had all met before near the Mediterranean, had lived in Egypt and Greece in past lives, and had lived in Atlantis.
“We've all met before, near the Mediterranean. For the last twenty years we've had Egypt with us, people who reincarnated from that period. We're coming out of it now. People remember meeting in Greece, in Atlantis…”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch10:11857-12062 opinion second hand
2
Grace Hooper Pettipher said Atlantis sank because of the heaviness of the minds of its inhabitants.
“"We lived in harmony in Atlantis," she said with the matter-of- fact intonation of a housewife recalling some childhood memory. "Unfortunately the heaviness of mind sank the island. Parts of this heaviness are still with us."”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch10:12100-12320 opinion second hand
3
Grace Hooper Pettipher said that ten or twelve years earlier, while walking on Fifth Avenue on a hot summer day, she experienced a vision of Atlantis as an ancient city alive with palaces and parks, and saw her friend Emma Fox in a doorway.
“Atlantis… she saw it on Fifth Avenue, ten or twelve years ago. Grace was walking on the sidewalk on a hot summer day, and suddenly it was there at her feet: a vision of palaces and parks, an ancient city alive and excited. "God, give me a witness!" she prayed. Then she saw her friend Emma Fox in a doorway.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch10:12326-12625 testimony second hand
4
Many contactees mention Atlantis when describing the origins of their claimed space-brother visitors.
“Many contactees, for example, mention Atlantis.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:52263-52301 observation first hand
5
The Ancient and Mystical Order of the Rosy Cross (AMORC) claims its ancient knowledge originated from Atlantis and was preserved by Egyptian priests and their descendants.
“AMORC says it comes from – you guessed it – Atlantis. It was preserved all this time by Egyptian priests and their descendants.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:65624-65739 testimony second hand
6
Maha told Raymond Bernard that the ancient knowledge came from another galaxy and was brought to Earth by the founders of Atlantis.
“Maha stated the answer unequivocally, by insisting that this knowledge came from another galaxy, and was brought to Earth by the founders of Atlantis.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:74943-75084 testimony second hand
7
Maha claimed the pure race of the Atlanteans has continued throughout the millennia but would not reveal to Raymond Bernard where they now live, hinting they are linked to reports of unidentified beings who pay for goods with pure gold.
“The claim is made that the 'pure race' of these Atlanteans has continued throughout the millennia. Maha will not reveal where they now live, not even to his dear disciple Bernard. He hinted that they are linked to reports of unidentified beings, coming from elsewhere, who pay for the goods they buy with pure gold.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:75094-75404 testimony second hand
8
Jacques Vallée notes that contactee literature contains suggestions that all major human achievements, including agriculture, the mastery of fire, the wheel, and most religious traditions, would have been impossible without celestial intervention, beginning with the idea of Atlantis and continuing with the "Chariots of the Gods" hypothesis and interpretations of Yahweh as an extraterrestrial.
“Beginning with the idea of Atlantis and of "Chariots of the Gods," and continuing with Biblical interpretations of Yahweh as an extraterrestrial, contactee literature is replete with suggestions that all the great achievements of mankind would have been impossible without celestial intervention.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:66329-66612 opinion first hand
9
Jacques Vallée interviewed a woman psychic in the United States who argued about Atlantis and the elimination of the money system.
“I came back to the States and met a woman psychic who argued about Atlantis and the elimination of our money system.”
Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch6:17966-18075 testimony
10
Adolf Hitler and Heinrich Himmler believed that the ancient Egyptian gods came from Atlantis, which they believed was a high civilisation established on Earth by extraterrestrials.
“Goodrick-Clarke also shows that Hitler and Himmler believed that these Egyptian gods themselves came from "Atlantis"—which they believed was "a high civilization established on Earth by extraterrestrials."”
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch12:121510-121696 hearsay second hand
11
The pre-Egyptian, potentially high-tech global civilisation described in the Pyramid Texts became known in later Greek tradition, transmitted through Plato's Egyptian sources, as "Atlantis."
“This pre-Egyptian and potentially high-tech global terrestrial civilization (with mysterious extraterrestrial connections, also identified within the texts) was what was known later in the descendant Greek tradition—through Plato’s own Egyptian sources—as “Atlantis.””
Dark Mission 2010-07-22 ch12:16338-16595 observation second hand
12
Chris Ramsay considers Jason Quitt's account of Atlantis, given at the Contact in the Desert conference, a brand new take on the subject.
“you talking about it at contact i was really taken back because i was like oh this is a brand new take”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:02:35.2-00:02:39.8 opinion first hand
13
Plato wrote two works containing the Atlantis story and was supposed to write three; the Timaeus is complete and the Critias is only halfway complete.
“Plato wrote two works. He was supposed to write three. Uh, one is called the Timaeus. One is called Critias and Critias is halfway complete.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:38:13.4-01:38:22.0 testimony first hand
14
The Atlantis story is introduced in Plato's Timaeus and detailed in the half-complete Critias.
“you get the Atlantis story from the Timaeus, which is like introduced in the Timaeus... And then you have, let's say, like a half a book of the Critias, which details Atlantis.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:38:26.1-01:38:37.9 testimony first hand
15
Jason Quitt's research finds the Atlantis story contains hermetic and ancient creation myth material that cannot be seen without prior knowledge of those creation myths.
“when you read the Atlantis story, there's a lot of, I would say, hermetic and ancient creation myth in there. And unless you know those creation myths, you won't be able to see them.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:38:41.2-01:38:57.4 opinion first hand
16
Jason Quitt considers Plato's telling of the Atlantis story, via Critias and Solon, to be a reflection of the universe and of creation.
“the way that Plato writes the story from Critias or Solon is in a way, a reflection of the universe. It's a reflection of the creation.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:38:58.8-01:39:09.2 opinion first hand
17
In Plato's Atlantis story, Poseidon, the god of the sea, is gifted an allotment of land.
“it starts with Poseidon. He's gifted an allotment of land, of earth. He's the God of the sea.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:39:18.5-01:39:26.9 testimony second hand
18
In Plato's Atlantis story, Poseidon falls in love with the daughter of an earth family living on a central hill and encircles her with alternating rings of land and water, turned as on a lathe, to protect her.
“On a central hill, there's an earth family, has a daughter. He falls in love with her. He comes down, he puts um, land and water, like a lathe, like circles of land and water rendered to protect her.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:39:28.3-01:39:46.2 testimony second hand
19
In Plato's Atlantis story, Poseidon's mortal partner bears five sets of twins, and the first born is named Atlas.
“So then she has five twins, sets of twins and the first born they named Atlas.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:40:04.3-01:40:11.3 testimony second hand
20
In Plato's Atlantis story the Temple of Poseidon is placed at the centre of the island of Atlantis.
“And they place the Temple of Poseidon right at the center of the island.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:40:30.0-01:40:33.1 testimony second hand
21
In Plato's Atlantis story a pillar of orichalcum, a mythological sacred metal of reddish-gold colour, stands directly at the centre of the island of Atlantis.
“In the middle, there is an orichalcum, which is a sacred metal. It's a mythological metal, which is kind of reddish gold, a pillar directly in the center of the island.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:40:34.6-01:40:45.9 testimony second hand
22
In Plato's Atlantis story the Atlanteans lived in harmony and perfection as a naval power, then mixed too much with mortals, became warlike, and went to war beyond their boundaries into the Strait of Gibraltar, the Pillars of Hercules.
“over time, they live in harmony, perfection, they navigate their naval power. And then they go to war, they get too much mixing with mortals, they become warlike, and then they're going to go outside their boundaries into the Straits of Gibraltar, which is the Pillars of Hercules.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:40:52.1-01:41:17.7 testimony second hand
23
The Timaeus and the Critias date the Atlantis events specifically to about 9,000 years before, which works out to 9600 BC.
“They give a date very specifically in the Timaeus and the Critias about 9,000 years, or it comes to 9,600 BC.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:41:22.8-01:41:33.3 measurement second hand
24
At 9600 BC the north celestial pole lay directly between the legs of the constellation Hercules in the northern sky.
“If you look up in the sky, at the northern sky at that time, the North Pole is directly in between the legs of Hercules in the sky.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:41:35.4-01:41:44.8 testimony first hand
25
Jason Quitt considers the Atlantis myth to mirror the actual dating and positioning of the stars in the heavens, making it an "as above, so below" story.
“So the myth or the story of Atlantis mirrors the actual date and timing of the stars in the heavens. So it's kind of this as above, so below story.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:41:46.1-01:41:57.0 opinion first hand
26
At the height of Atlantis's power, around 12,000 BCE, the pole star was Vega, the brightest star in the northern sky.
“The pole star is Vega in the north sky. And so Vega is the brightest star in the north sky. If you go back 12,000 BCE”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:42:07.1-01:42:16.2 testimony first hand
27
A stable north star is required to travel the world, and a civilisation could only be a naval power while it had such a star.
“that star would have been so important for travelers because you need a north star, a stable north star to travel the world. You could only be a naval power if you have this star”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:42:18.5-01:42:29.7 opinion first hand
28
Jason Quitt links the cataclysm in the Atlantis story to the loss of the north star and a resulting loss of cosmic navigational understanding.
“now the pole star is in between Hercules and you have this cataclysm because there is no north star anymore... So you have this loss of the world, loss of cosmic navigational understanding.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:43:06.1-01:43:16.8 opinion first hand
29
Jason Quitt interprets the great flood or deluge of the Atlantis story as the dark waters of space.
“The great flood. It's like the deluge because it's the dark waters of space.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:43:29.1-01:43:32.0 opinion first hand
30
Jason Quitt acknowledges a reflection between the Younger Dryas and the date given for the Atlantis cataclysm.
“of course there's a reflection between the younger Dryas and the, the date”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:43:34.4-01:43:37.5 opinion first hand
31
In Plato's Timaeus the Atlantis story appears just before the character Timaeus speaks about the creation of the world by the benevolent demiurge.
“you have the Atlantis story that pops in just before Timaeus speaks... And he talks about the creation of the world by the bevalent demiurge.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:43:48.0-01:44:00.2 testimony second hand
32
Jason Quitt finds that merging Timaeus's description of the creation of the universe with Critias's account of the creation of Atlantis yields the same circular pattern as the shape of Atlantis.
“if you take the image of Timaeus talking about the creation of the universe and you take the Atlantis story and you actually just merge them together, it's like they're describing that same circular pattern that Atlantis is shaped of.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:44:35.1-01:44:50.3 opinion first hand
33
Jason Quitt considers that Plato took ancient creation myths, wrapped them and gave them the new name of Atlantis, so the whole Atlantis story can be found in other myths.
“it's almost like Plato took ancient creation myths and then he wrapped it and gave it a new name, you know?”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:45:06.9-01:45:13.4 opinion first hand
34
Understanding Plato's Atlantis account requires knowledge of Egypt, the Egyptian creation myths, The Odyssey and the 12 labours of Hercules.
“you have to know about Egypt. You have to know about the Egyptian creation myths. You have to know about, um, the Odyssey... 12 labors of Hercules.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:45:20.2-01:45:32.5 opinion first hand
35
Jason Quitt considers that in telling the Atlantis myth Plato followed a long line of earlier authors who created myths of the gods that actually tell another story to those initiated into it.
“by giving this kind of fable, this myth, he's actually following a very long line of other authors in the past that create myths of the gods. But it's actually telling another story when initiated into this.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:46:43.3-01:46:56.1 opinion first hand
36
In Plato's Atlantis account an Egyptian priest tells Solon that Phaethon took his father's chariot and burnt the earth, causing a catastrophe by fire, and that the world goes through periodic cataclysms by water and fire.
“why did the um the priest tell Solon that um that Phaethon stole his chair his father's chariot and burnt the earth causing a catastrophe by fire and that the um the world goes through these periodic cataclysms by water and fire”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:48:29.2-01:48:49.1 testimony second hand
37
Immediately before relating the Atlantis story, the Egyptian priest tells Solon that the account has the form of a myth but really means the declination of the stars of the heavens over long periods of time.
“the priest also says, you know, this story has a form of a myth, but what it really means is the declination of the stars of the heavens. over long periods of time.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:48:55.0-01:49:05.8 testimony second hand
38
The story of Phaethon is a destruction of the world by fire and the Atlantis story carries the same theme but with water.
“the story of Phaeton is the destruction of the world by fire. The exact same theme is in the Atlantis story, but it's with water.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:49:20.8-01:49:28.7 opinion first hand
39
In Plato's account Atlantis is located just outside the Pillars of Hercules, identified as the Strait of Gibraltar between Spain and Morocco.
“he says it's right outside the pillars of Hercules, which we know exactly that location on earth”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:49:50.3-01:49:56.0 testimony second hand
40
In Plato's account Atlantis is larger than Libya and Asia combined.
“He says it's larger than Libya and Asia combined.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:50:02.4-01:50:05.8 testimony second hand
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Jason Quitt puts the combined size of Libya and Asia as given in Plato's Atlantis account at a continent roughly the size of North America.
“if you put those two places together, you're talking about a continent, roughly the size of North America.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:50:07.3-01:50:12.4 opinion first hand
42
Jason Quitt considers that a continent-sized landmass sinking into the ocean around 11,000 years ago would have left evidence, and no such evidence is found outside the Strait of Gibraltar.
“if that went into the ocean 11,000 years ago, give or take, there's going to be evidence of that. Um, you're going to see it, but we don't, it's, it's completely not in that location”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:50:15.9-01:50:28.4 opinion first hand
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Chris Ramsay considers that leading readers on a treasure hunt towards a lost civilisation does not fit what Plato and the Greek philosophers did, as they were imparting knowledge such as mathematics, science and astronomy.
“they wouldn't send you on a treasure hunt you know it seems like something hollywood would do ... but in terms of philosophers those guys were imparting knowledge like math and science and astronomy”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:51:08.7-01:51:21.4 opinion first hand
44
Jason Quitt draws a parallel between the Atlantis story and Plato's The Republic, in which the search for the ideal society ends with the society falling apart whatever is chosen.
“it's the same thing with the Republic where they're trying to find the ideal society. And it's, it's almost like it doesn't matter what they choose. It falls apart.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:51:30.0-01:51:39.4 opinion first hand
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Jason Quitt holds the personal opinion that the hubris and arrogance theme in Plato's Atlantis story concerns the ideal state of consciousness rather than the ideal state of society.
“in my personal opinion this hubris and arrogance is not about the ideal state it's the ideal state of consciousness”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:52:16.8-01:52:23.8 opinion first hand
46
Proclus, a Neoplatonist of the 5th century AD, wrote a book of roughly 200 to 300 pages or more arguing that the story of Atlantis is a celestial allegory of the cycles, the demiurge and the creation.
“Yes, Proclus, which is 5th century AD, he is a Neoplatonist and he looked at the Atlantis story and he wrote a huge book, I think it's about 200-300 pages if not more, saying that the story of Atlantis is actually a celestial allegory of the cycles and the demiurge and the creation.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:53:14.4-01:53:39.9 testimony first hand
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Jason Quitt considers that understanding the hidden meaning of Plato's Atlantis story requires initiation into orders such as the initiations in Egypt, which hold the keys to unlocking it.
“This is where we get into the initiations in Egypt ... you'd have to be initiated into these other orders in order to have the keys to unlock them and understand it.”
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