Brief
Out-of-Body Experience (OBE)
The claims the writer was given for Out-of-Body Experience (OBE), in the order they were given.
1
Joseph McMoneagle considers it impossible to confirm whether out-of-body travel occurs versus ordinary psychic functioning during remote viewing.
“Since it's not possible to confirm out-of-body travel versus garden variety psychic functioning, it is impossible to know if someone is actually seeing the target.”
Remote Viewing Secrets 2013-03-22 ch18:21833-21989 opinion first hand
2
In the Out-of-Body Experience (OBE), people perceive that they have travelled to a location and are present there in all ways except the physical presence of their bodies, which remain at their place of origin.
“In the Out of Body Experience (OBE), people actually perceive that they have traveled to that location, and are present there in all ways except the presence of their physical bodies, which remain at their place of origin.”
Remote Viewing Secrets 2013-03-22 ch25:15853-16068 observation
3
After his 1970 near-death experience, Joseph McMoneagle had continuing spontaneous Out-of-Body Experiences but could not control them.
“After my near-death experience in 1970, I had continuing spontaneous OBEs, but could not control them.”
Remote Viewing Secrets 2013-03-22 ch25:16077-16174 testimony first hand
4
In 1983, Joseph McMoneagle believed Robert Monroe was the one person in the world he trusted who claimed he could control Out-of-Body Experiences.
“In 1983, there was one man in the world who I felt I could trust who claimed he could control them, and that was Robert Monroe.”
Remote Viewing Secrets 2013-03-22 ch25:16180-16300 testimony first hand
5
Robert Monroe had been experiencing Out-of-Body Experiences since 1958 and had demonstrated his control over them.
“He had been experiencing OBEs since 1958, and had demonstrated his control over these remarkable events.”
Remote Viewing Secrets 2013-03-22 ch25:16308-16405 testimony second hand
6
Joseph McMoneagle worked with Robert Monroe in his lab for nearly fourteen months and was finally successful in learning to control his Out-of-Body Experience ability, though not as well as Monroe.
“We worked together in his lab for a period of nearly fourteen months, where I was finally successful in learning to control the ability, albeit, not as well as he.”
Remote Viewing Secrets 2013-03-22 ch25:16550-16710 testimony first hand
7
Joseph McMoneagle and Robert Monroe were able to visit a number of targets both in the Out-of-Body sense and through remote viewing.
“We were able to visit a number of targets in both the Out of Body sense and through remote viewing.”
Remote Viewing Secrets 2013-03-22 ch25:16714-16805 testimony first hand
8
Joseph McMoneagle found that there was a substantial increase in control over his remote viewing ability as a result of his Out-of-Body Experience training with Robert Monroe.
“I did find that there was substantial increase in control over my remote viewing ability as a result of the experience.”
Remote Viewing Secrets 2013-03-22 ch25:16938-17046 testimony first hand
9
During the 1960-04-28 out-of-the-body experience, a second entity climbed onto Robert Monroe's back while he held off the first, and when he pulled both off and got a good look at them, they each transformed into a facsimile of one of his two daughters.
“Then, as I was trying to hold off the first, a second climbed on my back!... I got a good look at each, and as I looked, each turned into a good facsimile of one of my two daughters.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 28-28 observation first hand
10
During the 1960-04-28 out-of-the-body experience, a man appeared and watched the struggle, then picked up each of the two small entities, cradling one in each arm, causing them to relax and go limp.
“he slowly approached us... Still with no recognition of me, he picked up each of the little beings, cradled one in each arm, and looked down at them. As he held them, they seemed to relax and go limp, limbs and necks drooping.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 32-34 observation first hand
11
Robert Monroe wrote a letter to Richard Gordon describing his out-of-the-body (OOB) experiences and a technique for leaving the physical body, which Mrs. Gordon read to Richard Gordon repeatedly in hospital at his own request.
““Why don’t you write him a letter,” she suggested... She read it again and again to Dr. Gordon whenever he was conscious. She told me later that these repeated readings were at his request, not at her suggestion.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 60-66 testimony first hand
12
Oliver Fox published detailed reports of out-of-body experiences and techniques for achieving the out-of-the-body state.
“He published fairly detailed reports of out-of-body experiences and techniques for achieving this state.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch10:22164-22262 administrative
13
Hornell Hart, Nandor Fodor, and Robert Crookall made significant attempts at scientific study and evaluation of the out-of-the-body experience.
“Significant attempts at scientific study and evaluation have been made recently by several noteworthy men, such as Hornell Hart, Nandor Fodor, Robert Crookall, and others with good academic backgrounds.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch10:23158-23348 administrative
14
Robert Monroe's out-of-body research spanned hundreds of experiments over twelve years and was still continuing at the time of writing.
“Hundreds of experiments spread over twelve years, and still continuing, have brought forth conclusions that seem inescapable yet alien to my environmental conditioning.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch10:24543-24698 observation first hand
15
Richard Gordon was the first person close to Robert Monroe to die since the development of Robert Monroe's out-of-the-body (OOB) ability.
“He was the first person close to me who had died since the development of my “wild talent.””
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch15:9165-9248 testimony first hand
16
During an out-of-the-body experience on 1961-11-03 night, Robert Monroe found that remaining completely immobile within a layer of the small fish-like 'sucker' entities caused them to detach and move away, whereas moving caused them to return.
“This time, I stopped right in the middle of the layer as the “fish” came clustering around, attracted by me. Instead of reacting as before, I simply waited, completely immobile. After a few moments, they detached themselves and moved away.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:10482-10716 observation first hand
17
During an out-of-the-body experience on 1960-07-13 night in a hotel room in Durham, North Carolina, with his wife beside him in bed, Robert Monroe was attacked by an unseen entity that fought at an animal level, biting and scratching.
“In hotel room in Durham with my wife in bed beside me, late at night... Immediately, I was attacked by something I couldn’t see in the darkness. It fought at the animal level, i.e., tried to bite and scratch.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:11084-11321 observation first hand
18
During the 1960-07-13 Durham out-of-the-body experience, Robert Monroe fought the entity through the room and ejected it out of a window; he estimated it was pure animal, about 1.2 metres long, like a large dog.
“it was only through sheer determination that I fought it step by step over to the window and hurled it out. It apparently had no human or intelligence characteristics. It seemed pure animal and about four feet long, like a large dog.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:11624-11853 observation first hand
19
During the 1960-04-18 out-of-the-body experience, Robert Monroe observed a small, nude, human-appearing male entity, apparently about ten years old and roughly one metre tall, with thin legs, little pubic hair, and undeveloped genitals, walk up beside his physical body.
“Walking up beside my body was a human-appearing body... It was nude, no clothes, and male. He seemed in size to be about ten years old, some three feet tall, thin legs, little pubic hair, undeveloped genitals.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:1183-1408 observation first hand
20
During the 1960-07-13 Durham out-of-the-body experience, after disposing of the entity Robert Monroe realised his hand passed through the closed window, confirming he was not in his physical body, then returned and re-entered his physical body.
“By the window, after disposing of it, I turned and realized for the first time that I was not in the physical. (My hand was right through the closed window!) I floated over to the bed... and was back “in.””
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:11861-12050 observation first hand
21
During an out-of-the-body experience on 1960-10-27 night, Robert Monroe was attacked by an entity that seemed to have no apparent personality and could not be seen, but was intent on 'taking' something of his that first required overpowering him.
“I was attacked by something. It had no apparent personality, nor was I able to see it. However, I knew this one was incredibly vicious with an intent to “take” something that was mine which first required getting rid of “me”.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:12729-12950 observation first hand
22
During the 1960-10-27 out-of-the-body experience, Robert Monroe fought a silent, extremely fast, no-holds-barred struggle against an entity that seemed to know and exploit every weak spot, lasting what seemed like hours before he steered the fight over his physical body and re-entered it to end the struggle.
“This struggle was not like fending off an animal. It was a no-holds-barred affair, silent, terrifyingly fast... We fought for what seemed like hours... Still fighting, I steered the battle in the direction of my physical... I dropped back “in.””
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:13065-13247 observation first hand
23
During the 1960-04-18 out-of-the-body experience, the small entity Robert Monroe encountered climbed onto his back and wrapped its legs around his waist as if performing a habitual, unremarkable act.
“Calmly, as if it were a daily occurrence—like a boy swinging onto his favorite horse—he swung a leg over my back and climbed on me. I could feel his legs around my waist, his small body pressed against my back.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:1506-1711 observation first hand
24
During the 1960-04-18 out-of-the-body experience, Robert Monroe retreated back into his physical body rather than confront the small entity riding on his back, ending the projection.
“I felt that I didn’t want to confront whoever he was in an environment where he was obviously more at home than I, so I retreated quickly back into my physical body, cut down the vibrations, and started to write these notes.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:2214-2432 observation first hand
25
Robert Monroe considers the small humanoid entity from his 1960-04-18 out-of-the-body experience to have seemed more animal-like than human in intelligence, despite its humanoid form.
“It was certainly humanoid in form, but upon reflection, it didn’t have the feeling of human intelligence. It (he) seemed more animal, or somewhere in between.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:2584-2738 opinion first hand
26
During an out-of-the-body experience on 1960-04-28 night, Robert Monroe again felt something climb on his back and, upon reaching down, found it had a flesh-like, body-warm, rubbery consistency that stretched when pulled.
“I let the vibrations continue, and reached down my side to get hold of his leg... I was quite surprised when my hands did touch something! The consistency felt much like flesh, normally body-warm, and somewhat rubbery; it seemed to stretch.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:3418-3701 observation first hand
27
During the 1960-04-28 out-of-the-body experience, Robert Monroe struggled to pull the rubbery entity off his back and pushed the mass onto a shelf beside the couch, where it continued trying to climb back on him.
“I finally pulled what I thought was all of it off my back, except for a leg which seemed to be under my body... and pushed the entire mass onto the shelf beside the couch. (It still seemed very much alive.) It seemed to be trying to get back on me, and I had to hold it away.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:3782-4082 observation first hand
28
During an out-of-the-body experience (OOBE) on 1960-04-18 morning, Robert Monroe lay down and began fractional relaxation, and the vibrations characteristic of the State of Vibration began partway through his second relaxation attempt.
“I lay down on the couch around ten, and started fractional relaxation. The room was bright in morning daylight. Halfway through the second time around, the vibrations started.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:603-770 observation first hand
29
During an out-of-the-body experience on 1960-05-21 night, Robert Monroe noticed a small leg thrown over his body, patted the small entity's shoulder gently, and lifted and pushed the small body away from him, after which it did not return.
“I quickly noticed the small leg thrown over my body... I patted the little shoulder gently (intending understanding) and carefully lifted the small body and pushed it away from mine. I waited, and it didn’t come back or attempt to come near.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:8183-8510 observation first hand
30
During the 1960-04-18 out-of-the-body experience, Robert Monroe opened his physical eyes while the vibrations continued, then separated from his physical body to a height of about eight inches (twenty centimetres) above it.
“With physical eyes open, I decided to try and “lift out” to see what happened to my vision... I was just about eight inches over the physical when I saw a movement out of the corner of my eye.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:902-1145 observation first hand
31
During an out-of-the-body experience on 1960-05-27 night, Robert Monroe visualised two pieces of highly charged electrical wire and mentally stuck them into the entity clinging to his back, causing it to deflate, go limp and appear to die.
“This time, I tried thinking of electricity. I visualized two pieces of highly charged wire. I mentally stuck them into the side of that part of the entity that I had pulled off. Immediately the mass deflated, went limp, and seemed to die.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:9244-9478 observation first hand
32
During the 1960-05-27 out-of-the-body experience, immediately after the rubbery entity deflated, a bat-like thing squeaked past Robert Monroe's head and went out the window.
“As it did, a batlike thing squeaked past my head and went out the window.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:9483-9549 observation first hand
33
During an out-of-the-body experience on 1960-08-25 night, several small fish-like entities about 20-25 centimetres long attached themselves to various parts of Robert Monroe's non-physical body like parasitic sucker fish, and returned repeatedly after he pulled them off.
“They seemed almost like small fish, about eight or ten inches long, and they attached themselves like the parasitic “sucker” fish in the ocean. I pulled them off and pushed them away as best I could, but they (or others) came back immediately.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch18:9924-10159 observation first hand
34
Robert Monroe considered that the 1963-08-23 explosion out-of-body experience might represent true death rather than a typical out-of-the-body experience.
“It was then that I seriously considered another possibility. This might be death, true death, instead of the typical out-of-body experience.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch20:1418-1547 opinion first hand
35
Many of the experiments described in Robert Monroe's notes on out-of-the-body experiences were too personal for him to relate.
“Many of the experiments in the notes are also "too personal" for me to relate.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch23:21748-21819 administrative first hand
36
Robert Monroe came to believe that most, if not all, human beings leave their physical bodies in varying degrees during sleep.
“Evidence has led me to believe that most, if not all, human beings leave their physical bodies in varying degrees during sleep.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch24:1148-1269 opinion first hand
37
Robert Monroe has not detected, nor have any physicians he consulted detected, any physiological changes attributable directly to the out-of-the-body experience.
“I have not detected (nor have any physicians) any physiological changes, good or bad, that can be attributed directly to the out-of-the-body experience.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch24:1661-1802 observation first hand
38
Robert Monroe believed that once a practitioner passes beyond the point of consistently achieving the State of Vibration, they cannot turn back and will become committed to the reality of the out-of-the-body experience (OOBE).
“Beyond this point, I believe you cannot turn back. Ultimately, you will be committed to the reality of this other existence.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch24:23672-23786 opinion first hand
39
Robert Monroe stated that once opened to the reality of the out-of-the-body experience (OOBE), one cannot completely shut it out again, though the pressure of material affairs may sublimate it for a time before it returns.
“For once you have been "opened" to this other reality, you cannot completely shut it out again, try as you might. The pressure of material affairs may sublimate it for a time, but it will return.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch24:23930-24118 opinion first hand
40
Robert Monroe states that only after repeating the out-of-body process eighteen to twenty times did he gather enough courage and curiosity to stay out of his body more than a few seconds and observe objectively.
“Only after repeating the process eighteen to twenty times did I finally gather enough courage (and curiosity) to stay out more than a few seconds and observe objectively.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch24:5055-5213 testimony first hand
41
Robert Monroe states he had been out of his body several hundred times and had returned safely on each occasion.
“I had been "out" several hundred times, and the evidence showed that I was able to return safely one way or another.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch24:5767-5875 testimony first hand
42
Robert Monroe states that his exploration of the unknown aspect of out-of-body experience has produced very few unalterable and consistent rules.
“Such penetration as I have made has brought forth pitifully few unalterable and consistent rules.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch24:6716-6807 testimony first hand
43
Robert Monroe outlines relaxation as the first prerequisite and possibly the first step in developing the non-physical experience.
“The ability to relax is the first prerequisite, perhaps even the first step itself.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch24:7898-7974 opinion first hand
44
Robert Monroe classified and sorted approximately 589 out-of-the-body experiments over a period of twelve years.
“the sorting and classification of some 589 experiments over a period of twelve years becomes somewhat easier”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch27:3195-3297 administrative first hand
45
Robert Monroe considers that a fear barrier had to be overcome before willful separation in an out-of-the-body experience (OOBE) could take place.
“It was this dynamic that created the fear barrier, which had to be overcome before willful separation could take place. For an out-of-the-body experience was very much like death, which might be called the ultimate failure to comply with the command.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch29:20251-20493 opinion first hand
46
Robert Monroe has been a pioneer in exploring the Out-of-the-Body Experience (OOBE).
“Robert A. Monroe has been a pioneer in exploring out-of-the-body experiences”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch2:2-67 administrative
47
Robert Monroe's first out-of-the-body experience occurred during his adult years, unlike many people who associate such experiences with childhood.
“He reports that his first out-of-the-body experience occurred during his adult years, another point of difference, since in our work we have found that many people associate to out-of-the-body or similar experiences during their childhood.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch30:1319-1548 testimony second hand
48
In other experiments, Stuart W. Twemlow found different types of brain wave responses associated with what is defined as out-of-the-body, but they all showed a slowing in the brain waves and a shifting of energy focus.
“In other experiments we have found different types of brain wave responses to what is defined as out-of-the-body, but they all seem to have one thing in common: there is a slowing in the brain waves, and a shifting of energy focus.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch30:15932-16157 observation first hand
49
Robert Monroe did not appear to be suffering from any severe physical illness at the time of his first out-of-the-body experience.
“Robert Monroe appeared not to be suffering from any severe physical illnesses at the time he had his first out-of-the-body experience.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch30:1760-1883 observation first hand
50
Later in his life, Robert Monroe had some evidence of arteriosclerotic narrowing of the blood vessels to his brain, which could create a state of low oxygenation known to precipitate out-of-the-body experiences.
“In addition, later in his life Monroe has had some evidence of arteriosclerotic narrowing of the blood vessels to his brain, which could create a state of low oxygenation known to precipitate these sorts of experiences.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch30:2226-2433 observation first hand
51
Robert Monroe's repeated visits to physicians to explain his out-of-the-body experiences were initially motivated by the intellectual and medical orientation of his parents.
“It is significant that initially Monroe’s repeated visits to physicians in an attempt to explain these unusual experiences were motivated by the intellectual and medical orientation of his parents.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch30:2621-2810 observation first hand
52
Stuart W. Twemlow observed that people with direct personal out-of-the-body experience, as opposed to those who only study or research the phenomenon, often remember childhood fantasy experiences such as playing with imaginary friends and seeing fairies.
“I have noticed that not only do they generally have such childhood fantasy experiences as playing with imaginary friends and seeing fairies”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch30:3372-3504 opinion first hand
53
Stuart W. Twemlow observed that people with direct personal out-of-the-body experience often report fantasies of wanting to fly like a bird and an increased number of flying and falling dreams.
“but also they often remember fantasies of wanting to fly like a bird, and report an increased number of flying and falling dreams”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch30:3513-3636 opinion first hand
54
Stuart W. Twemlow assessed that Robert Monroe demonstrated personality attributes commonly found in people capable of having out-of-the-body experiences, including a tendency to feel socially isolated and different from others at an early age, often seeing the world itself as somewhat alien.
“These include a tendency to feel socially isolated and different from others at quite an early age, often seeing the world itself as somewhat alien.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch30:5632-5774 opinion first hand
55
Robert Monroe spoke on out-of-body experiences at the Smithsonian Institution.
“Who could have guessed that I would speak on out-of-body experiences at such an august and conservative body as the Smithsonian Institution! It actually happened.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch7:2152-2305 testimony first hand
56
Robert Monroe decided to set up the conscious out-of-body state and then turn control of the experience over to his total self, allowing his present consciousness to go along for the ride.
“For the most part, I would set up the conscious out-of-body state, then turn the action over to my *total self* (soul?). My present consciousness would go along for the ride, as a part of the whole.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch7:3763-3955 testimony first hand
57
On eight occasions Robert Monroe was asked to try to produce an out-of-the-body experience (OOBE) while connected to instruments measuring physiological functions.
“On eight occasions Mr. Monroe was asked to try to produce an OOBE while hooked up to various instruments for measuring physiological functions.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:12393-12526 observation first hand
58
Robert Monroe was asked to direct his movements during the out-of-the-body experience (OOBE) into the adjoining room to observe the technician monitoring the recording equipment.
“He was also asked to try to direct his movements during the OOBE into the adjoining room, both to observe the activity of the technician monitoring the recording equipment”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:12537-12699 administrative first hand
59
On the first seven nights of the laboratory sessions at the Electroencephalographic Laboratory, University of Virginia Medical School, Robert Monroe was not successful in producing an out-of-the-body experience (OOBE).
“On the first seven nights during which he attempted to produce an OOBE, Mr. Monroe was not successful.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:13301-13392 observation first hand
60
On the eighth night of the laboratory sessions, Robert Monroe produced two very brief out-of-the-body experiences (OOBEs).
“On his eighth night he was able to produce two very brief OOBEs, and these are described in some detail in his own words”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:13404-13519 observation first hand
61
In the first of Robert Monroe's two brief out-of-the-body experiences (OOBEs) on the eighth laboratory night, he witnessed unrecognized people talking at an unknown location, so there was no way to check whether it was fantasy or a real perception of events happening at a distance.
“The first brief OOBE involved witnessing some unrecognized people talking at an unknown location, so there was no way of checking whether it was “fantasy” or a real perception of events happening at a distance.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:13549-13750 observation first hand
62
In the second of Robert Monroe's two brief out-of-the-body experiences (OOBEs) on the eighth laboratory night, he reported he could not control his movements very well, so he did not report on the target number in the adjacent room.
“In the second brief OOBE, Mr. Monroe reported he couldn’t control his movements very well, so he did not report on the target number in the adjacent room.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:13760-13909 observation first hand
63
During his second brief out-of-the-body experience (OOBE) on the eighth laboratory night, Robert Monroe correctly described that the laboratory technician was out of the room and that a man, later identified as her husband, was with her in a corridor.
“He did correctly describe that the laboratory technician was out of the room, and that a man (later identified as her husband) was with her in a corridor.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:13915-14060 observation first hand
64
Under the improved conditions of the 1968 California laboratory session, Robert Monroe was able to produce two brief out-of-the-body experiences (OOBEs).
“Under these conditions, Mr. Monroe was able to produce two brief OOBEs.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:14785-14850 observation first hand
65
Robert Monroe awoke almost immediately after the first of the two brief 1968 California out-of-the-body experiences (OOBEs) ended, and estimated that it had lasted eight to ten seconds.
“He awoke almost immediately after the first OOBE had ended, and estimated that it had lasted eight to ten seconds.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:14858-14964 observation first hand
66
Robert Monroe reported that during his first 1968 California out-of-the-body experience (OOBE) he "rolled out" of his body, found himself in the hallway separating his room from the recording room for a few seconds, and then felt a need to return to his body because of difficulty breathing.
“he reported that he “rolled out” of his body, found himself in the hallway separating his room from the recording room for a few seconds, and then felt a need to get back into his body because of a difficulty in breathing”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:15320-15532 observation first hand
67
Joan Crawford, an assistant to Charles T. Tart, and Tart watched Robert Monroe on closed-circuit television during his first 1968 California out-of-the-body experience (OOBE) and saw him move his arm slightly away from his throat just before he awoke and reported the experience.
“An assistant, Joan Crawford, and I had been watching him on a closed-circuit television set during this time and we saw him move his arm slightly away from his throat just before he awoke and reported.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:15543-15735 observation first hand
68
During his second attempt in the 1968 California session, Robert Monroe's brain-wave pattern showed much light sleep, so after three quarters of an hour Charles T. Tart called out to him over the intercom to remind him that they wanted him to try to produce an out-of-the-body experience (OOBE).
“His brain-wave pattern showed much light sleep, so after three quarters of an hour, I called out to him over the intercom to remind him that we wanted him to try to produce an OOBE.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:15930-16106 observation first hand
69
Robert Monroe reported producing a second out-of-the-body experience (OOBE) during the 1968 California session but, being unsure of his orientation, followed a wire he thought led to the recording room and instead found himself outside in a strange area he never recalled seeing before.
“A while later, he reported having produced an OOBE, but being unsure of his orientation, he followed a wire which he thought led to the recording room, and instead found himself outside in a strange area that he never recalled seeing before.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:16112-16346 observation first hand
70
Robert Monroe decided he was hopelessly disoriented during his second 1968 California out-of-the-body experience (OOBE) and returned to his body.
“He decided he was hopelessly disoriented and came back to his body.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:16354-16416 observation first hand
71
Robert Monroe's description of the strange area he encountered during his second 1968 California out-of-the-body experience (OOBE) matched an interior courtyard of the building he would have found himself in if he had inadvertently gone in exactly the opposite direction he should have.
“His description of that area matched an interior courtyard of the building that he would indeed have found himself in during an OOBE if he had inadvertently gone in exactly the opposite direction he should have.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:16422-16628 observation first hand
72
A few months after moving to California, Charles T. Tart and his wife set up an experiment in which they would concentrate intensely for half an hour to try to help Robert Monroe have an out-of-the-body experience (OOBE) and come to their home.
“A few months after moving, my wife and I decided to set up an experiment. One evening we would concentrate intensely for half an hour, in an attempt to help Mr. Monroe have an OOBE and come to our home.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:17713-17910 administrative first hand
73
Robert Monroe recorded in his notes an out-of-the-body experience in which a hand held his wrist firmly, he felt a hairy muscular male arm but could not see who it belonged to, and he heard his name called once.
“With the hand around my wrist very firmly, I could feel a part of the arm belonging to the hand (slightly hairy, muscular male). But I could not “see” who belonged to the arm. I also heard my name called once.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:20056-20260 testimony first hand
74
Robert Monroe recorded that during this out-of-the-body experience he felt a sensation like air rushing around his body, the trip seemed to last about five seconds, they stopped, the hand released his wrist, there was complete silence and darkness, and then he drifted down into what seemed to be a room.
“Then we started to move, with the familiar feeling of something like air rushing around the body. After a short trip (seemed like five seconds in duration), we stopped and the hand released my wrist. There was complete silence and darkness. Then I drifted down into what seemed to be a room.…”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:20268-20554 testimony first hand
75
During his 1970 overnight visit, Charles T. Tart requested that if Robert Monroe had an out-of-the-body experience that night, he come to Tart's bedroom and try to pull him out of his body so Tart could have the experience too.
“Staying overnight, I requested that if he had an OOBE that night, he should come to my bedroom and try to pull me out of my body so I could have the experience too.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:22273-22433 testimony first hand
76
The 1970 attempt was the first time in years Charles T. Tart had consciously attempted to have an out-of-the-body experience, and he has never, to his knowledge, succeeded in having one.
“this was the first time in years that I had consciously attempted to have an OOBE (I have never, to my knowledge, succeeded)”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:23811-23925 testimony first hand
77
Charles T. Tart admits he is somewhat afraid of out-of-the-body experiences, even though he is scientifically interested in the phenomenon and excited at the prospect of personally experiencing it.
“I nave observed in myself, although I do not like to admit it, which is that I am somewhat afraid of them. Part of me is very interested in the phenomenon scientifically, another part of me is excited at the prospect of personally experiencing it.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:24460-24704 opinion first hand
78
Charles T. Tart considers an out-of-the-body experience to be something like dying, or opening up part of the mind to an unknown realm.
“A third part of me knows that an OOBE is something like dying, or opening up part of my mind to an unknown realm, and this third part is not at all anxious to get on with it.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:24708-24879 opinion first hand
79
Robert Monroe is a successful businessman who began experiencing out-of-the-body experiences (OOBEs) unexpectedly over a decade before this account was written.
“Robert A. Monroe is a successful businessman who began experiencing OOBEs quite unexpectedly over a decade ago.”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:9670-9777 administrative first hand
80
Robert Monroe began taking systematic notes on his out-of-the-body experiences (OOBEs) from the beginning of having them.
“he realized the unusualness of these experiences and began taking systematic notes from the beginning”
Journeys Out of the Body 2014-11-11 ch8:9869-9961 administrative first hand
81
Pam Reynolds reported that on leaving her body during surgery she felt no more pain, suffering, fear, or anxiety, and could move around at will by thought.
“The feeling of exiting the body was incredible... I felt no more pain, no more suffering, no more fear. No more anxiety, even for the sake of my children. All of those things disappeared when I left that body.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 31 testimony first hand
82
Maria told Kimberly Clark Sharp that she had left her body and had been up in a corner of the ceiling of her hospital room, watching her own resuscitation from that place.
“Maria pointed to a corner of the ceiling in her room and told me that she had left her body and had been up there, watching her resuscitation from that place.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch15:4293-4445 testimony second hand
83
Maria told Kimberly Clark Sharp that, while out of her body, she was distracted by something in another part of the hospital and found herself three or four storeys above the ground staring closely at a single tennis shoe sitting outside on a window ledge.
“She said that while she was out of her body she was distracted by something in another part of the hospital. By gesturing with the same quick snap of her fingers, she described somehow finding herself three or four stories above the ground staring very closely at an odd object sitting outside on a window ledge: a single tennis shoe.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch15:7289-7618 testimony second hand
84
Mark B. Woodhouse considers it a tremendous conceptual jump from a thirty-minute out-of-body experience (OBE) to immortality.
“"It is a tremendous conceptual jump from, say, a thirty-minute OBE to immortality."”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch16:1059-1128 opinion first hand
85
Stephen Braude considers it reasonable to interpret out-of-body experiences as imagery-rich manifestations of Extrasensory Perception (ESP).
“"It's reasonable to interpret OBEs as imagery-rich manifestations of ESP," Stephen Braude points out.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch16:2709-2805 opinion first hand
86
Experiencers of out-of-body experiences do not associate them with the dream state.
“OBEs have unique characteristics and experiencers do not associate them with the dream state.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch16:3235-3322 observation
87
Out-of-body experiencers describe themselves as positioned on the ceiling, sometimes shocked and disoriented at first, before recognising and accepting that they are actually there.
“they describe themselves positioned on the ceiling, sometimes shocked and disoriented at first, taking a while to recognize and accept that they are actually there and that perhaps they have died”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch16:3535-3726 observation
88
Out-of-body experiencers view their own bodies and the medical machinery being used from the perspective of the ceiling.
“They view their own bodies and the machinery being used from the perspective of the ceiling.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch16:3732-3816 observation
89
Out-of-body experiencers are stunned by how different their experience is from a dream, often saying it is more real than waking consciousness.
“they are stunned by how different this is from a dream—they often say it is more real than waking consciousness”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch16:3834-3932 observation
90
An out-of-body experience remains vivid in memory as something that actually happened, unlike dreams which tend to be more chaotic and are forgotten over time.
“Dreams tend to be more chaotic, and we forget them over time, but the OBE remains vivid in the memory as something that actually happened.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch16:3947-4076 observation
91
Most experiencers' lives are forever changed by an out-of-body experience, and they no longer fear death afterward.
“Most experiencers' lives are forever changed by it as well, and they no longer fear death.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch16:4086-4170 observation
92
Some blind people report seeing for the first time when leaving their bodies with their nonfunctioning physical eyes during an out-of-body experience.
“Some extraordinary examples of nonphysical veridical perception involve blind people who report "seeing" for the first time when leaving their bodies with their nonfunctioning physical eyes.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch16:5817-6002 observation
93
During her 1973 out-of-body experience at Harborview Medical Center, Vicki Noratuk, who is blind, was able to "see" despite being blind, finding the experience foreign, eerie, and very scary and initially unable to translate what she was perceiving.
“"It was like a nightmare. It was foreign, it was eerie, it was very scary and I couldn't even translate what it was I was perceiving initially, and I didn't like it,"”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch16:7100-7261 observation first hand
94
Pam Reynolds reported that during her surgery she began to hear a guttural, unpleasant tone, and felt herself pop out of her head to investigate it.
“Nonetheless, I began to hear a tone. It was guttural, it was unpleasant, I did not like it. It drew my consciousness like water from a well. And having done that, I sort of popped out of my head to see what this horrific noise was.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch17:4626-4853 testimony first hand
95
In Pim van Lommel's Dutch prospective study, 25 percent of near-death experiencers reported an out-of-body experience (OBE).
“25 percent an out-of-body experience (OBE)”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch18:10353-10391 measurement first hand
96
Pim van Lommel considers the veridical out-of-body experience of Maria in Seattle to provide the strongest evidence for the existence of consciousness outside and separate from the body.
“In fact, veridical OBEs, such as that of the well-known case of Maria in Seattle, provide the strongest evidence for the existence of consciousness outside and separate from the body.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch18:15527-15705 opinion first hand
97
During a near-death experience, the range of vision can extend to 360 degrees with bird's-eye views.
“The range of vision can extend to 360 degrees with bird’s-eye views.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch18:16183-16245 opinion first hand
98
In Janice Holden's report on about 100 out-of-body experiences occurring during a near-death experience, 8 percent contained minor errors and 2 percent were false.
“8 percent contained minor errors, and 2 percent were false.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch18:16399-16452 measurement second hand
99
Pim van Lommel considers that correct perceptions during out-of-body experiences cannot be hallucinations, because they correspond with reality in detail, whereas hallucinations caused by psychosis, delusion, or drugs have no basis in reality.
“These reports cannot be hallucinations because these correct perceptions during OBE correspond with reality in detail, while hallucinations, such as those caused by psychosis, delusion, or drugs, have no basis in reality.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch18:16459-16672 opinion first hand
100
Pim van Lommel considers that, based on cases of corroborated out-of-body experiences, there are good reasons to assume that consciousness does not always coincide with the functioning of the brain.
“Based on these cases of corroborated OBEs, I think that there are good reasons to assume that our consciousness does not always coincide with the functioning of our brain.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch18:18921-19086 opinion first hand
101
Pim van Lommel defines a near-death experience as the reported memory of a range of impressions during a special state of consciousness, including being out of the body, going through a tunnel, seeing a bright light, meeting deceased relatives, having a life review, and making a conscious return into the body.
“I define it as the reported memory of a range of impressions during a special state of consciousness, including a number of universal elements, such as being out of the body, going through a tunnel, seeing a bright light, meeting deceased relatives, having a life review, and making a conscious return into the body.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch18:5662-5973 opinion first hand
102
Many Burmese subjects recalled a transitional stage after death in which they described being separate from their bodies.
“Many Burmese subjects recalled this stage, when they described being separate from their bodies.”
Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch19:3427-3516 observation
103
A participant in an out-of-body experience (OOBE) described their consciousness as feeling like it was flapping behind them like a cape in the wind.
“It felt like my consciousness was like flapping behind me like a cape in the wind.”
Out of Body - The Gateway Experience - Trailer 2024-07-12 00:00:02.2-00:00:05.7 testimony second hand
104
A participant described an out-of-body experience (OOBE) as seeming to last thousands of years.
“The experience seemed like it lasted thousands of years.”
Out of Body - The Gateway Experience - Trailer 2024-07-12 00:00:07.0-00:00:10.4 testimony second hand
105
A participant described realising they were standing behind themselves during an out-of-body experience (OOBE).
“And I'm standing like this, and suddenly I realize that I'm standing behind myself.”
Out of Body - The Gateway Experience - Trailer 2024-07-12 00:00:11.2-00:00:15.1 testimony second hand
106
A participant found they could put their hand through a glass window during an out-of-body experience (OOBE).
“I'm looking at my hand and thinking, can I stick my hand through the glass? And sure enough, I could.”
Out of Body - The Gateway Experience - Trailer 2024-07-12 00:00:21.7-00:00:27.0 testimony second hand
107
A participant felt their body become lighter and felt able to lift out of their body during an out-of-body experience (OOBE).
“And I felt my body lighter than before, and I felt like I could lift out of my body.”
Out of Body - The Gateway Experience - Trailer 2024-07-12 00:00:28.2-00:00:34.0 testimony second hand
108
A participant felt something bumping against their shoulder during an out-of-body experience (OOBE), which turned out to be the ceiling of their bedroom.
“I felt something bumping against my shoulder. What I was bumping against was the ceiling of my bedroom.”
Out of Body - The Gateway Experience - Trailer 2024-07-12 00:00:40.0-00:00:45.8 testimony second hand
109
Out-of-body experiences (OOBEs) attracted the attention of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).
“Now, obviously, this caught the attention of the CIA.”
Out of Body - The Gateway Experience - Trailer 2024-07-12 00:00:48.7-00:00:50.4 opinion second hand
110
A participant described their soul as coming out of the mould of their body during an out-of-body experience (OOBE).
“My soul came out of the mold of my body.”
Out of Body - The Gateway Experience - Trailer 2024-07-12 00:00:59.8-00:01:01.9 testimony second hand
111
A participant's first out-of-body experience (OOBE) occurred at 3:09 a.m.
“3.09 a.m. This was the first time I left my body.”
Out of Body - The Gateway Experience - Trailer 2024-07-12 00:01:05.2-00:01:08.2 testimony second hand
112
A participant considers the absolute knowledge that they would transcend physical mortality to be the main thing they gained from their out-of-body experience (OOBE).
“The one main thing I got from the out-of-body experience is the absolute knowledge that I would transcend physical mortality.”
Out of Body - The Gateway Experience - Trailer 2024-07-12 00:01:33.0-00:01:41.3 opinion second hand
113
Nelson Delis checked and confirmed his eyes were physically closed while he reported being able to see clearly, which he interpreted as evidence that he was perceiving with a non-physical body rather than imagining it.
“I had to check for a second. Are my eyes closed? Yes, they were closed... This is not my physical body. This is my non-physical body seeing. And I'm having an OBE, this is it.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:02:44-00:02:53 testimony first hand
114
Graham Nichols is a leading figure in the study of out-of-body experiences.
“Graham Nichols, a leading figure in the study of out-of-body experiences.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:05:56.5-00:05:59.3 administrative
115
Over the past two decades, Graham Nichols has explored the outer edges of human consciousness and developed technology to aid out-of-body experiences.
“Over the past two decades, Graham has not only explored the outer edges of human consciousness, but has also developed innovative technology to aid in these experiences.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:06:00.4-00:06:08.7 administrative
116
In 1999, while developing systematic techniques for achieving out-of-body experiences, Graham Nichols left his body and witnessed an explosion in downtown London that occurred five days later.
“And in 1999, while developing some of his systematic techniques for achieving OBEs, he found himself leaving his body and witnessing an explosion in downtown London that would occur five days later.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:06:19.0-00:06:31.4 testimony second hand
117
Graham Nichols is a specialist in out-of-body experiences.
“My name is Graham Nichols and I am a specialist in our body experiences.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:06:39.4-00:06:44.4 administrative first hand
118
Graham Nichols developed the G Technique, one of his methods for initiating out-of-body experiences.
“I just developed the G technique, which is one of the methods that I use for initiating our body experiences.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:06:48.0-00:06:55.4 testimony first hand
119
While demonstrating the G Technique to friends in 1999, Graham Nichols entered a deep state and went onto the ground into an out-of-body experience.
“it was like almost as soon as I thought that something just hit me like a like a ton of bricks I went into like a really deep state and I went down onto the ground and went into an hour body experience.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:07:23.3-00:07:39.6 testimony first hand
120
After witnessing the explosion during his out-of-body experience, Graham Nichols felt a physical pressure strike his chest, which pulled him back into a void-like state of rudimentary consciousness.
“a few moments after the explosion i felt this energy sort of hit me in the chest that was quite physical and tangible kind of you know strike in my chest not painful again but just like a kind of pressure and very intense and as that happened that kind of pulled me back out of the experience and i went into a kind of void”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:08:31.9-00:08:53.7 testimony first hand
121
Graham Nichols has had approximately four different out-of-body experiences with a distinctive blue-grey quality, each of which has been objectively verified in terms of the information perceived.
“I've had maybe four Different experiences that have had this blue-grey quality in each of them have been objective in terms of the information that I perceived.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:09:32.1-00:09:41.4 testimony first hand
122
Graham Nichols considers his 1999 precognitive out-of-body experience of the Admiral Duncan bombing to be an unusually strong session of remote viewing that resulted in an out-of-body experience.
“this being having all of those ingredients came in the form of a stronger session of remote viewing, which resulted in out of body.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:15:52.7-00:16:02.2 opinion
123
Graham Nichols considers the pre-state prior to an out-of-body experience to be the key to achieving the experience.
“i started doing research into things like flow states and realized that the pre-state to an out-of-body experience is probably the key to the experience”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:18:26.0-00:18:33.7 opinion first hand
124
Graham Nichols advises people seeking their first out-of-body experience to focus on reaching the pre-state rather than jumping between different techniques.
“don't jump around in terms of techniques i would say don't even worry too much about techniques focus on the pre-state the state that you get into prior to having the out-of-body experience”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:19:53.2-00:20:05.5 opinion first hand
125
Graham Nichols advises practising a chosen out-of-body-experience technique consistently, ideally at least about three times a week.
“work consistently. Pick a technique and work consistently with it... Ideally, at least about three times a week, I would say.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:20:38.0-00:20:43.6 opinion first hand
126
Nelson Delis's plan was to have an out-of-body experience (OBE) during his session, float to the other participant's room, view the number she had written, and validate it with her afterwards.
“my goal was gonna be, I'm gonna go into my session and I'm gonna have an OBE, float over to her room, see the number, and then afterwards validate it with her that we have the same number.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:23:43.1-00:23:53.5 testimony first hand
127
Graham Nichols and Nelson Delis both had an out-of-body experience (OBE) about a week apart from each other, after returning from the Gateway Experience program.
“Now in a twist of fate and about a week apart, Nelson and I both ended up having an out-of-body experience.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:29:32.2-00:29:37.6 testimony first hand
128
The out-of-body experience (OBE) described was Graham Nichols's fifth and Nelson Delis's first.
“This would be my fifth and latest and Nelson's first.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:29:39.0-00:29:42.5 testimony first hand
129
Graham Nichols's out-of-body experience described in this video was his fifth overall, including two from the previous year, and his third since returning from the Gateway Experience program.
“this would be my fifth out-of-body experience, including the two that I had last year, my third since getting back from Monroe.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:29:58.1-00:30:04.7 testimony first hand
130
Nelson Delis's out-of-body experience occurred while he was on a red-eye flight from Portland, Oregon, to the East Coast, after having just run a 40-mile (approximately 64-kilometre) ultramarathon.
“I was flying from the West Coast, Portland, Oregon, over to the East Coast on a red-eye flight. You know, I had just ran a 40-mile ultramarathon, so I was exhausted.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:30:05.9-00:30:16.3 testimony first hand
131
During his out-of-body experience, Nelson Delis felt a pre-OBE vibratory state as he crossed an imagined bridge, followed by a surge of electricity through his body after mentally repeating the phrase "I deeply desire to leave my body" three times.
“felt that pre-OBE state, that vibratory state... As I'm transitioning and crossing this bridge, almost instantly there was a surge of, or jolt of electricity that went through me. And just like before, in my head, I say to myself, I deeply desire to leave my body... the third time I say it, I feel myself sinking further into the pillow”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:31:12.6-00:31:37.8 observation first hand
132
Nelson Delis reported that he could suddenly see through his closed eyelids during his out-of-body experience.
“I realized that I could suddenly see through my eyelids. Obviously my eyelids were closed... suddenly I could see through my eyes, through my eyelids.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:31:59.4-00:32:03.6 observation first hand
133
Graham Nichols said the words "clarity now, demanding clarity" to himself and, immediately after, began to see his room through his closed eyes.
“I remember saying to myself the words, clarity now, demanding clarity. The second I said it, I could start seeing my room through my closed eyes.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:32:39.3-00:32:50.0 testimony first hand
134
Nelson Delis moved forward out of his body two to three feet (approximately one metre) during his out-of-body experience.
“I knowingly and easily just kind of move forward out of my body two, three feet.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:33:28.5-00:33:33.0 testimony first hand
135
Graham Nichols reported getting up out of his bed during his out-of-body experience, looking back, and noticing his own physical body.
“I get up from out of my bed, look back, notice my body, ignore that,”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:33:33.7-00:33:38.3 testimony first hand
136
Graham Nichols attempted to put his hand through a window during his out-of-body experience but was unable to pass through the glass, then opened the window and leapt halfway out, at which point he heard a voice ask "What are you doing?"
“Go to the window, but try to put my hand through the glass. Tonk. I could not go through the glass... I decided to open the window. I sort of thrust my body up very easily... and sort of leapt out the window halfway. And as I was halfway out the window, I hear a voice. What are you doing?”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:33:47.7-00:34:04.1 testimony first hand
137
Nelson Delis's excitement during his out-of-body experience became too much after a few seconds and he was pulled back into his body.
“I was really excited. So excited, I guess, that after a few seconds, the excitement got too much and I kind of just like shot back into my body”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:34:08.2-00:34:16.3 testimony first hand
138
Graham Nichols opened his eyes and ended his out-of-body experience at 6:38 a.m., having started the meditation at 5:35 a.m.
“opened my eyes, and it was now 6.38 a.m. So I popped the meditation at 5.35.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:34:31.0-00:34:36.4 testimony first hand
139
Graham Nichols estimated that the time from closing his eyes, leaving his body, and returning was about two to two and a half minutes, and he remained fully lucid throughout without falling asleep.
“The time that I took to close my eyes, get out of my body, and come back was about two minutes, two and a half minutes. Not enough time for me to fall asleep. I was completely lucid the entire time.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:34:40.3-00:34:50.1 testimony first hand
140
As Nelson Delis returned to his body during his out-of-body experience, he felt an intense, euphoric, vibratory sensation like being pulled through a portal, wormhole, or tunnel, and verbally exclaimed out loud.
“as soon as I hit back, it was kind of paired with another really intense, euphoric, vibratory sensation of kind of being shot through like a portal, a wormhole or some kind of a tunnel... I verbally said out loud like, whoa, or like, oh man.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:34:57.2-00:35:17.9 testimony first hand
141
Nelson Delis considers his out-of-body experience to be further proof that people are more than their physical bodies.
“it's just more proof to me that we are more than our physical bodies.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:35:35.1-00:35:38.8 opinion first hand
142
The training used hemi-sync audio technology designed to synchronise the hemispheres of the brain, facilitating out-of-body experiences (OBEs) and altered states of consciousness.
“The training involved the use of hemi-sync audio technology designed to synchronize the hemispheres of the brain, facilitating out-of-body experiences and altered consciousness, thereby inducing various states of consciousness.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:36:11.2-00:36:24.1 administrative
143
A finding reported was that deep meditative states and out-of-body experiences (OBEs) were consistently achieved, which was said to validate the reliability of the Hemi-Sync technology.
“I consistently achieve deep meditative states and OBEs, thus validating the reliability of the Hemisync technology.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:36:33.1-00:36:39.4 testimony
144
Out-of-body experiences (OBEs) reportedly yielded accurate descriptions of targets during remote viewing sessions.
“OBEs yielded accurate descriptions of targets.”
I LEFT MY BODY - The Gateway Experience (Part 3) 2024-08-24 00:36:52.0-00:36:53.7 testimony
145
Chris Ramsey has personally investigated and come to accept out-of-body experience as something real to him.
“The second, out-of-body experience. I got to know out-of-body experience. I know you.”
The Clearest Video of a Tic Tac UAP! - DEBRIEFED ep. 6 2024-09-13 00:11:59.4-00:12:03.5 opinion first hand
146
Chris Ramsay has had out-of-body experiences that were neither awake experiences nor lucid dreams, possibly a new undefined type of dream.
“i've had out-of-body experiences and i can tell you that those were not awake experiences but they weren't lucid dreams either and so you know i don't know if i'm describing a new type of dream that we haven't really defined yet”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:28:16.8-02:28:35.5 testimony first hand
147
Erik Nanstiel had had an out-of-body experience (OBE), but only because he was training himself to have one in 1995.
“i've had an obe but only because i was training myself to have one ... in 1995”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:28:35.5-02:28:40.5 testimony first hand
148
During his OBE training, Erik Nanstiel experienced a separation sensation accompanied by a tearing-velcro or whoosh sound, like walking through a wall in the 1990 film Ghost.
“did you see the movie ghost... when you when you walk through a ghost or walk through a wall there's like this like tearing velcro sound... That's what I felt when I was separating.”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:28:45.3-02:29:03.5 testimony first hand
149
In 1995 Erik Nanstiel trained himself using astral projection techniques to wake at the same time each night until he could enter a lucid state and introduce a suggestion to separate from his body.
“And I studied it in 1995, and I was training myself to wake up at the same time every night until I didn't need the alarm anymore. And then you'd start to wake up in your sleep in a lucid state”
"Skinny Bob is Real" – Lifelong Abductee Reveals Everything - Erik Nanstiel | DEBRIEFED ep. 85 2026-04-24 02:29:33.7-02:29:59.4 testimony first hand
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Erik Nanstiel succeeded at astral separation on two occasions, but felt so vulnerable each time that he freaked out and snapped back, and does not want to do it again.
“And I succeeded on two occasions. One time I woke up and the ceiling was in my face and I freaked out and I snapped back... I just felt so vulnerable anytime I'd separated that I'd freak out and snap back. I don't ever want to do it again.”
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Chris Ramsay experienced involuntary out-of-body experiences that he found terrifying but immediately wanted to repeat.
“it happened to me a few times involuntarily. And it was one of the most terrifying experiences of my life. But instantly after it happened, I was like, I got to do that again.”
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Chris Ramsay pursued out-of-body experiences through the Gateway Process, meditating one hour a day at about 04:30 for four months straight, leaving his body many times.
“I pursued it through the gateway process and ended up, you know, meditating four months straight, one hour a day at like 430 in the morning and ended up leaving my body a whole bunch of times after that.”
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Erik Nanstiel states the feeling of an out-of-body experience is very different from the objective reality he describes with the tall Greys (extraterrestrial beings).
“to the objective reality that you describe with the ET and the tall grays are different. They are not the same feeling. ... Very different, yeah.”
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Whitley Strieber was removed from his body by the Non-Human Intelligence and placed in a small white container in a non-physical state from which the only exit was to return to his body.
“And then they proceeded to demonstrate this by removing me from my body. And I ended up in this little white container that I could not get out of. in in the non-physical the only way out was to go back into my body”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:24:35.0-00:24:49.5 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber's journey to a university on another world was not a physical journey but either a journey in place or an out-of-body journey, and he remembers it vividly and in detail.
“Now, was it a physical journey? No, it couldn't have been. But it was either a journey up here or some kind of out-of-body journey or something. But it was very vivid and very detailed.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:27:16.9-00:27:30.0 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber has been out of his body a few times, but only when taken out by others, and has never been able to leave his body at will despite trying.
“i've been out of my body a few times ... i've always when i've been out i've been taken out and i i don't get to go out on now and i try all the time”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:33:25.4-00:33:36.6 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber has friends who can leave their bodies at will.
“i have friends who can go out of their body anytime they want to”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:33:29.3-00:33:31.8 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber concluded that the Greys are responsible for his out-of-body episodes because they are always present when they occur, and he believes they consider him too likely to play practical jokes to be allowed to do it at will.
“i finally decided that the greys seem to be the ones responsible for my going out of the body because they're always around when that happens they must think that i'm too dangerous that i would play practical jokes and stuff”
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Whitley Strieber knows how to become visible while out of his body and has done so on a couple of occasions, under instruction from the beings who took him out.
“I know how, and I've done this before to become visible when I'm out of my body. I've done that a couple of occasions when, but it's all controlled. I mean, they took me out. They told me what to do. I did it. I came back.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:34:05.9-00:34:16.2 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber has been seen by other people while out of his body, including Linda Moulton Howe.
“People have definitely seen me. Linda Moulton Howe saw me.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:34:59.9-00:35:02.2 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber appeared in a non-physical state in Linda Moulton Howe's bedroom in the middle of the night, and she telephoned him afterwards very upset about it.
“I ended up in her, uh, in her bedroom in the middle of the night, and she was really pissed off. And she called me, what is the matter?”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:35:05.3-00:35:12.9 testimony first hand
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During the episode in which he appeared in Linda Moulton Howe's bedroom, Whitley Strieber saw a woman looking at him who was very upset, though not clearly.
“I had seen her. But not clearly. I knew I'd seen a woman and she was looking at me and really upset.”
The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:35:18.6-00:35:25.2 testimony first hand
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Whitley Strieber wants to learn to leave his body under his own control and travel where he chooses, believing an out-of-body experience of that kind is possible.
“Get out of my body on my own because I know it's possible and I would like to do it myself and go where I want to go and do what I want to do.”
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Jason Quitt began seriously studying crystals when he learned they might help him deal with out-of-body experiences.
“when I started to learn that maybe they could help me with dealing with this out of body experience stuff, that's when I really started to get into crystals.”
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Anger was what caused Jason Quitt's first out-of-body experience.
“Well, it was actually anger.”
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Jason Quitt popped out of his body after thrashing inside it so hard in anger to wake himself up.
“And one night I was just so pissed. I was like thrashing so hard to wake up that I popped out of my body.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:07:02.2-00:07:08.0 testimony first hand
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During his first out-of-body experience Jason Quitt found himself on the ceiling looking down at his own body lying straight on its back on the bed with no covers and eyes wide open.
“And I found myself on the ceiling, just like people describe in your death. ... And I'm straight as a board on my back. There's no covers on me and my eyes are wide opened.”
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Robert Monroe had his first out-of-body experience in a similar way to Jason Quitt's, finding himself above his body.
“Robert Monroe having his first experience as well.”
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During his first out-of-body experience Jason Quitt saw a tall shadow being at the foot of his bed which looked dense and physical, resembling the grim reaper.
“my attention gets pulled to the foot of my bed and there's this tall shadow being and it was clear as day it was like it looked dense like it had a physical form but it looked like the grip reaper”
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On seeing the shadow being at the foot of his bed during his first out-of-body experience, Jason Quitt believed he had killed himself and that the figure was the grim reaper come to take him away.
“did I just kill myself? I see my body. I'm hovering above my bed. This is so real. ... And this is the grim reapers to take me away.”
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Jason Quitt was not seeking out-of-body experiences before his first one occurred.
“remember, I wasn't looking for this. I didn't know that this was gonna happen to me, but it did happen to me.”
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Jason Quitt's first out-of-body experience ended when fear sucked him back into his body and he woke with his heart pounding.
“I got scared so much. I got sucked back in my body and woke up and my heart was just like pounding out of my chest”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:08:26.0-00:08:30.9 testimony first hand
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Jason Quitt considers sleep paralysis the key state for leaving the body, the point at which the body is shut off.
“it's that sleep paralysis is kind of like the key. That's like the state when you know, your body is shut off”
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Leaving the body must be willed rather than forced, because forcing it wakes the person immediately.
“through that you will yourself. And I think the word will is the best word possible because when you try to force, you wake right up.”
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Chris Ramsay has had out-of-body experiences and stopped having them at one point, willingly, because his last experience was frightening.
“as someone who's had them i stopped having them at one point i think willingly um because the last experience that i had was a little frightening”
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An afternoon nap is sometimes the easiest time to enter the out-of-body state, because the person is already in an in-between daydreaming state when the body shuts off.
“sometimes when you have let's say like an afternoon nap it's sometimes the easiest time to do it ... It's like you're daydreaming and then suddenly your body shuts off and you can do it.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:12:07.1-00:12:17.3 opinion first hand
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Jason Quitt's recommended technique for leaving the body is to wake at about four or five in the morning, not move, stay awake while the body remains asleep, and go back down while keeping the mind aware.
“the trick that I tell people is, uh, I found the easiest was if you wake up too early. As in, let's say you wake up at like four or five in the morning ... but don't move. Just be awake. Your body is still basically asleep and then just go back there, but keep your mind aware.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:12:26.6-00:12:42.0 testimony first hand
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Chris Ramsay used to drink a half glass of water before bed so he would wake at about three thirty or four in the morning, then hold it and meditate with headphones on, listening to one of the Gateway Experience tapes.
“if I drank a glass of water before bed, like a half glass, I knew I'd have to pee at like four in the morning or 3:30 ... And that's usually when I put the headphones on and I'll start like a sort of one of the gateway tapes”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:13:04.7-00:13:14.1 testimony first hand
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At a certain point in meditation the environment around the meditator also appears to breathe, with a push and pull in the surrounding atmosphere that is neither the pulse nor the breath, and joining that ebb and flow causes the meditator to expand outwards.
“there's this point in meditation where you're breathing. But it's almost like the environment as well is breathing ... you kind of join this in and out flow and suddenly you expand outwards”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:15:12.1-00:15:24.2 testimony first hand
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There are many different techniques and ways of leaving the body.
“so there's there's many different techniques and ways of popping out”
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Jason Quitt cannot give a number for how many times he has left his body.
“i i can't even tell you a number anymore”
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Jason Quitt left his body most frequently in his early twenties.
“i would say in my early 20s was the most frequent um so this is when it was happening constantly”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:17:55.6-00:18:01.3 testimony first hand
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In his early twenties Jason Quitt lived a monk-like existence doing nothing but meditating and Qigong, and was addicted to the out-of-body experience.
“i basically lived kind of a monk style existence where all i did was meditate all i did was Chi Gong and i was i was so addicted to the experience”
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In his early twenties Jason Quitt shut out his friends and family in order to pursue out-of-body states.
“I literally shut out my friends and family because it's like, you know, I, I just needed to know I needed to get to these states.”
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In his early period Jason Quitt could sometimes leave his body without difficulty and at other times went months with nothing happening.
“sometimes you, I would leave my body, no problem. And sometimes I'd go months without nothing happening.”
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Jason Quitt suspects there is more to leaving the body than simply wanting it, and that some form of control over it may exist.
“maybe there's more to this than just us wanting it. ... Maybe there is some type of control of it”
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Chris Ramsay considers that some type of permission may be required to attain the out-of-body state.
“Maybe there's some type of permission that is required, uh, in order to attain it.”
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Chris Ramsay experienced that leaving the body happens at the moment of letting go, and that merely thinking about letting go means one has not let go.
“one thing that, um, that I've experienced was the moment you let go is the moment it happens. And sometimes you think you've let go. But just by thinking about letting go, you haven't let go.”
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Failure to control excitement is, in Jason Quitt's view, the biggest fault among people trying to learn to leave the body.
“It's all about control. And this is the biggest fault with people trying to learn this.”
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Excitement on first leaving the body pulls the person straight back into the body, so emotion and mental activity must be suppressed to stay out.
“you get really excited ... And it's like, snap, you get pulled right back in your body. And for me, it's like, okay, I have to stop that. I have to stop the excitement. I can't work my emotions up.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:20:22.0-00:20:35.1 testimony first hand
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Jason Quitt considers that either another intelligence exists in the out-of-body world or the astral body itself has its own intelligence which knows what to do, with the experiencer becoming the observer of it.
“there is this other intelligence in that world or the astral body itself has its own intelligence to it it knows exactly what it has to do at that time and you become the observer of it”
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Taking the role of observer is how Jason Quitt found he could stay longer in the out-of-body state, be taken to places, prolong the journey and retrieve things to bring back.
“that's how i found to stay longer in that state ... then I get taken to places and I, I could prolong the journey and maybe retrieve things, bring things back with me.”
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Attempting to control the out-of-body journey or demand a destination immediately ends it for Jason Quitt.
“the moment I try to control or say, I want this, or let's do this just shuts me off.”
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In the out-of-body state the room seen is not exactly the same as the physical room, as though the brain were creating a reality from memory to make the experiencer comfortable.
“when you turn to look at yourself, you see a body lying there, but In reality, you know, the room isn't exactly the same. Things are a little different. It's almost like your brain is creating a reality based on memory to make you comfortable.”
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When Jason Quitt first left his body he emerged in his bedroom, which had things out of place and was not exactly his bedroom.
“when I first started coming out, it was, uh, my bedroom, right? ... There might be things out of place. It's not exactly my bedroom.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:21:59.9-00:22:08.3 observation first hand
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During the period of his early out-of-body experiences Jason Quitt lived with his mother and brother, but in the out-of-body state the house appeared empty of them.
“this is when I live with my mother and my brother. They weren't there. It was like an empty house.”
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When Jason Quitt floated up through the roof of his house during an out-of-body experience, he could see his house but the surroundings appeared as jungle and waterfalls rather than where he lived, seeming to merge with a dreamscape reality.
“I go out through the roof, just float up through the roof. I can see my house, but then it's like jungle. And then it's like waterfalls. I'm like, that's not where I live. It's almost like it merges with a type of a dreamscape reality”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:22:26.0-00:22:41.8 observation first hand
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Jason Quitt considers that the appearance of places and of beings encountered out of the body is the brain interpreting and assembling the experience into a form the person can understand.
“why did this being come in the being look like this? I'm think, I think it's our brains literally trying to interpret and put it together in a way that could un could unravel it or understand it in a way that you'll understand it.”
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Chris Ramsay has read a few books on out-of-body experiences and has had about half a dozen such experiences himself.
“I've read a few books and I've had half a dozen experiences. I haven't had many.”
Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 00:23:29.5-00:23:32.6 testimony first hand
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Chris Ramsay considers the out-of-body experience (OBE) objectively different from a lucid dream, falling into its own category that is neither physical reality nor a dream.
“is that the experience feels objectively different than a lucid dream... And this seems to fall into its own category, which isn't quite one or the other.”
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Chris Ramsay is uncertain whether his awareness leaves his body during an out-of-body experience (OBE), rather than being in his body and outside it at the same time.
“But I don't know that my awareness isn't here and in my body at the same time. Like, I don't know that I'm not in my body.”
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Jason Quitt suggests that an out-of-body experience (OBE) may consist of sending an orb of consciousness outside the body, or of the thoughts tapping into a greater consciousness field.
“So it's like maybe we're sending an orb of consciousness outside of us. or or um or our thoughts are connected to you know this greater consciousness field and all we're doing is tapping into something else”
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On entering another reality, a person takes a form that fits the spiritual awareness of that space, in contrast to the physical body held in this reality.
“So it's like you have the physical body in this reality. And then when you enter that reality, you have this kind of form that fits that spiritual awareness of that space.”
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Jason Quitt finds it very difficult to see his hands while out of body, and on repeated attempts to look down at them they appear only as light in the darkness that he can see through.
“It's very difficult to see your hands when you're out of body. And I've tried so many times to like, just kind of look down at my hands. And it doesn't, it just looks like kind of light in the darkness”
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Chris Ramsay's third out-of-body experience (OBE) was the first time he left his body willingly.
“the first time I willingly left my body, which was the third out of body, uh, event that I had”
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Chris Ramsay's first willed out-of-body experience (OBE) came months after returning from The Monroe Institute, following daily meditation.
“it was coming back from Monroe Institute. It was like months later after meditating every single day, finally it's happened again this time, you know, on my own accord.”
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During his first willed out-of-body experience (OBE), Chris Ramsay attempted to travel to Paris, France and felt himself hurled through space without being able to see anything.
“I was trying to go to Paris for some reason. And I was just like hurled through space, but I couldn't see anything, but I felt myself being thrown.”
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On forcing his eyes open during that out-of-body experience (OBE), Chris Ramsay saw a giant churning black cube, a massive stone monolith churning in on itself, which he found bizarre and terrifying.
“as I peeled my eyes open forcefully, I'm looking at this giant churning cube, this black rock, like massive monolith of a stone, just like churning in on itself is very bizarre and terrifying.”
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Chris Ramsay wiggled his fingers during the encounter with the churning black monolith and was hurled back into his body.
“And I wiggled my fingers and then I got hurled sort of back into my body.”
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Jason Quitt has many times found himself in places he could not recognise during out-of-body experiences (OBEs).
“Chris Ramsay: Have you ever found yourself in places that you couldn't recognize? Jason Quitt: Um, yes. Chris Ramsay: Many times I take it. Jason Quitt: Yes.”
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In the out-of-body experience (OBE) following his psilocybin mushroom journey, Jason Quitt was in the sky in the form of a giant amoeba with vibrant colours pulsing in a translucent body.
“I was in the sky and I looked like a giant amoeba, like just a giant amoeba with all these like vibrant colors pulsing in my like translucent body.”
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In the amoeba-form out-of-body experience (OBE) following his psilocybin mushroom journey, Jason Quitt saw a grand forest below him extending as far as he could see.
“And I'm in the sky and there's this like grand forest underneath me. As far as you can see”
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In the amoeba-form out-of-body experience (OBE) following his psilocybin mushroom journey, Jason Quitt saw a purple-orange sky unlike any sky he had ever seen.
“the sky was like purple orange. It was a very weird sky. ... No, that sky. I've never seen a sky like that.”
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In the amoeba-form out-of-body experience (OBE) following his psilocybin mushroom journey, Jason Quitt saw other amoebas like himself in the sky.
“And there was other amoebas like me in the sky.”
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In the amoeba-form out-of-body experience (OBE) following his psilocybin mushroom journey, Jason Quitt saw near-invisible snake-like forms with colours running through them moving around the amoebas and through the sky.
“And there was like these, uh, like almost like these snakes that were, uh, they just had like colors through them. Like they were invisible.”
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In the amoeba-form out-of-body experience (OBE) following his psilocybin mushroom journey, Jason Quitt spent the entire night dancing and singing in the sky with the other amoebas.
“And we were like dancing and singing in the sky... I was there the entire night.”
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During the amoeba-form out-of-body experience (OBE), Jason Quitt was not himself as Jason but the amoeba entity, and he did not believe the location was Earth.
“that was the most bizarre experience because I was not Jason. I was this amoeba thing with other amoeba things in the sky... And it wasn't earth.”
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Jason Quitt agrees that people journey out of the body every night, but considers the astral body to remain unconscious until it is awakened.
“Chris Ramsay: ...who often say that we journey out of the body every single night, whether we know it or not, is that something you believe in? Jason Quitt: I think so too, but I would say that the astral body itself is unconscious. I think it's like, it remains in this unconscious state until you awaken it.”
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Jason Quitt no longer tries to leave his body: he does not meditate or set an intention at night to do so, and instead leaves naturally when it is needed, sometimes after a gap of a couple of months.
“Like now I don't never even try. I don't sit and meditate to like leave my body. I don't go to sleep at night and say, I wanna leave. Um, I leave naturally when it's needed... So maybe a couple months will go by and then suddenly at night it'll just happen”
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Jason Quitt's spontaneous out-of-body experiences (OBEs) are triggered by something entering the bedroom that is not supposed to be there, working like an immune response.
“because maybe something walked into the bedroom that's not supposed to be there. And it's almost like a immune response.”
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Jason Quitt has met many entities during his out-of-body journeys.
“Chris Ramsay: you've met many sort of entities on these journeys. Jason Quitt: Yes.”
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In the beginning of Jason Quitt's out-of-body experiences (OBEs), the entities he encountered were all menacing.
“i would say from my experience um in the beginning it was more menacing... So, um, at first I think it was all menacing.”
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The menacing entities Jason Quitt first encountered were beings or shadows that felt as though they were trying to pull him out of his body or push themselves into it.
“it was kind of like beings or shadows that, um, it felt like they were trying to pull me out of my body or push themselves into my body.”
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Many people who first begin leaving the body turn to religion and call on God quickly, because on first entering what many call the lower astral there are unfriendly things present that must be dealt with.
“a lot of people, when they first start to go out, they, they turn to religion very quickly, call on God very quickly, because when you first enter, you know, a lot of people call it the lower astral is that suddenly there are things there that are not friendly.”
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When an entity enters the room, Jason Quitt is woken not in the physical state but in an altered state in which he sits up or turns his astral head to see out into the room.
“there's something will come into the room and you'll get awoken and you're not getting awoken in the physical state you're in this altered state where you kind of sit yourself up in bed or you don't even have to sit up you just kind of like turn your astral head and you can like kind of see out into the room”
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Jason Quitt encountered beings he could not categorise as positive or negative.
“there are beings that were very, that I can't, I can't tell you if it was positive or negative.”
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In the first couple of years of his out-of-body experiences (OBEs), Jason Quitt repeatedly encountered mantid beings.
“in the first couple of years of these experiences, I would experience mantid beings, which a ton of people experience.”
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Jason Quitt never asked for or sought out his out-of-body experiences (OBEs); they happened to him unbidden.
“cause remember, I never asked for this. I wasn't looking for it and it happened.”
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When the phenomenon happens to a person who was not expecting it, it shatters their reality and their life.
“when the phenomenon happens to a person that, um, wasn't expecting it, it's, it's like, You have just shattered their reality. You shattered their life.”
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Jason Quitt's old life ended on the day of his first out-of-body experience (OBE), because he saw something grander that he could not explain, and that single event set the course of his life afterwards.
“Like my old life ended that day because it was like, I saw something grander that I couldn't explain. And because of that event, that one event in my life, it now put me on this comp”
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Jason Quitt calls the shadow being he encountered during his first out-of-body experience "the initiator", because it put him on a new path.
“I call it the initiator because it's like, whatever that thing was, it put me on a new path.”
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Jason Quitt believes the shadow being's task was complete once he left his body, and he did not see it in that form again.
“once I left my body, it was like its task was done. And then I didn't see it again like that.”
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Jason Quitt believes many shadow people are living people rather than dead people, and are other people exploring outside the body.
“And I think that they're actually living people. A lot of them, not dead people, living people.”
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Chris Ramsay considers there to be an interesting intersection between ufology and the study of consciousness with respect to out-of-body and astral states, because the entities described are often mirrored in both fields.
“there is an interesting intersection between ufology and the study of consciousness in regards to out-of-body and astral states, the entities are often mirrored.”
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Chris Ramsay believes a majority of alien abductions happen in the non-physical, with the soul body pulled out of the physical body and taken through the wall, the beings themselves also being non-physical and passing through walls.
“many many many many of the abductions i would say possibly a vast majority ... are happening in the non-physical where the soul body is sort of pulled out of the body and through the wall that these beings themselves run through the walls and they are also non-physical”
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Jason Quitt has long argued that in an alien abduction the person's consciousness is taken out of their body, and that because the experiencer has never had such an experience before it feels so real that they conclude they were taken physically.
“this is like your consciousness is being taken out of your body and because you've never had this experience before it's so real that of course you think you're taking physically”
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In Bob Mitchell's abduction cases, as he described them to Jason Quitt, a separation then occurs and the experiencer finds themselves floating above their bed.
“and then there's like a separation it's like that now they're floating above their bed”
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Jason Quitt wrote down the stages of his own out-of-body experiences and found them almost exactly the same, step by step, as the stages reported by people documenting their own abduction scenarios.
“Now, let me write down exactly my out of body experiences. ... it's like exactly from one to 10, almost exactly the same as someone that's, um, documenting their own abduction scenario.”
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During his own altered-state experiences Jason Quitt knew they were altered states, knew his body was asleep in bed and that his consciousness was separated from it.
“when I was having these experiences of altered states, I knew they were altered states. I knew what I was entering into. I knew that my body is sleeping in bed, my consciousness is separated”
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Jason Quitt considers the same experiences very terrifying and very real for someone who has them without being aware of what they are.
“Whereas someone that is having these experiences where they're not aware, it's very terrifying. It's very real.”
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In his own out-of-body states Jason Quitt encountered mantid beings of the kind described in abduction accounts.
“in my own personal out-of-body states is that I've come in contact with, again, beings that are described in abduction scenarios. So I'd come across those mantids.”
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In his own out-of-body states Jason Quitt encountered grey aliens of the kind described in abduction accounts.
“I'd come across those grays.”
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In his own out-of-body states Jason Quitt encountered reptilian beings of the kind described in abduction accounts.
“I'd come across those reptilians.”
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Chris Ramsay considers encounters, out-of-body experiences, kundalini experiences and breaking through on N,N-Dimethyltryptamine (DMT) all easy to brush off if one has not had a first-hand experience of them.
“an out of body experience or even some type of kundalini experience or uh breaking through on DMT like all of these things are easy to brush off If you haven't had a firsthand experience with them.”
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Chris Ramsay considers that the correlation between abduction accounts and out-of-body experiences should not stop researchers studying why the same beings are seen.
“I think there is definitely a correlation, but that shouldn't stop us from studying, you know, what is going on. Like, why are we seeing the same beings?”
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In answer to people who dismiss his experiences as hallucination and all in his mind, Jason Quitt agrees that it is all in his mind and holds that everything is in the observer's mind too, with each person filtering and assembling their own reality.
“some people will say it's all in your mind. It's just a hallucination. And I go to them, I know it is all in my mind. It's all in your mind too. ... We're all taking it and putting it together through our own filters.”
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The dissolving of boundaries is learned both in out-of-body experiences and on ayahuasca and other plant medicines, with the body and the mind each being a boundary within which a person identifies as an individual.
“this is another thing you learn in the out of body experiences it's also what you learn on ayahuasca and all these other plant medicines and it's the uh dissolving of boundaries ... I could say our body is a boundary.”
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Going deeper in out-of-body states involves dissolving one boundary after another until what remains is a single consciousness or field, which Chris Ramsay names oneness.
“you kind of dissolve the boundary, dissolve the boundary until it's like, oh my God ... To oneness. ... It's, it's just this consciousness, it's just this field.”
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Jason Quitt describes incarnation as coming down through the dimensions, each density acting as a doorway conferring a further understanding or body, while deep altered states move in the opposite direction, leaving each dimension and body in turn.
“coming down through the dimensions is a good way of describing it. ... You come through a density as a doorway, you get this understanding or knowledge or body ... when you're going into these very deep states, it's almost like you're going the opposite direction.”
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Jason Quitt considers that on returning from these experiences the brain must process the information, creating archetypes, scenes and beings so the person can integrate what they went through.
“when we leave and do these experiences, the brain has to process that information. So it needs to kind of create those archetypes, create those scenes or those beings for you to integrate whatever you just went through”
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Jason Quitt holds that the laws governing this physical world also govern other realms, and that those laws change as a person moves through different dimensions or altered states, which is why walls can be passed through in an out-of-body experience.
“the laws that govern this also govern other things. ... as we transfer through different dimensions or different altered states, these laws do get changed. And that's why in the out of body experience ... you could pass through the walls”
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Chris Ramsay experienced an out-of-body experience while meditating in broad daylight, remaining completely lucid without falling asleep, and felt he left his body and walked around his room.
“when i got this sort of semi confirmation while i was meditating in broad daylight and seemingly left my body or felt that way without falling asleep completely lucid walking around my room”
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Chris Ramsay considers his out-of-body experience proof that there is more to reality than his physical body, though he does not know whether it is what comes after death or an extension of physical life.
“There is more than my physical body... And that was a sort of proof. And that might not be death.”
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Chris Ramsay sees a correlation between out-of-body and astral states and near-death experiences, because many people go out of body during a near-death experience and report the same symptoms of floating and seeing themselves.
“a lot of them, it happens during like a near death experience and they're floating, they see themselves, same symptoms... there is something here between the astral and out of body states and near death and dying.”
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Near the beginning of his out-of-body experiences, Jason Quitt was taken out of body and placed with a group of people to witness somebody die, without knowing the person concerned.
“you'd be taken out of body and you'd be with like a group of people and it's like you're going to witness somebody die”
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Jason Quitt experienced being called to help beings through transitions during his out-of-body experiences.
“it's almost like you call to help through transitions”
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Jason Quitt has been called by aliens during out-of-body experiences.
“Like I I've been called by aliens. I know it's a weird thing to say.”
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The salmon-pink alien being Jason Quitt encountered during an out-of-body experience was on the run, being hunted by something, and was extremely frightened of being caught.
“this alien was like on the run... it was being hunted by something and it was like hiding in like a cave... it was like, so scared.”
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During one out-of-body experience, Jason Quitt was taken to a desert-like place where a being resembling a tall grey alien, but salmon pink in colour rather than grey, was hiding in a cave.
“it looked like a desert and it looked like a, like a tall gray alien, but it wasn't gray. It was like salmon pink color.”
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Jason Quitt did not ask for the out-of-body assignments in which he was called to help beings; he was simply taken there.
“It's like, you don't ask for it. It's just like you, you're just taken there.”
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Jason Quitt speculates that when he attended a person's transition out of body, the dying person may not have seen him as Jason but as an older relative from another life whom they recognised, enabling them to make the transition.
“maybe they didn't see me as Jason. Maybe they saw me as an older relative of them from, let's say another life or something.”
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Jason Quitt believes a being on a planet in another universe would reach a human by leaving its body and entering the astral form, using the astral as a meeting place between worlds.
“They're going to leave their body. They're going to go into this astral form. And this is kind of like the transitionary meeting place between these worlds”
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Chris Ramsay relays that many people say lying in the box in the King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid and humming will almost induce an out-of-body state.
“I know a lot of people refer to the King's tomb in the pyramids as well as like, if you, uh, the King's chamber rather. And, and if you lay in that box and you start humming, it'll just like, it's, it'll almost induce an out of body state”
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In his early twenties, Jason Quitt was taken to what appeared to be a nursery hospital where a nurse told him to meet his child.
“I was taken and I was like, I was in this nursery hospital type of thing. And this, this like, um, this nurse walks out and is like, I want you to meet your child. And this was like my early twenties.”
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In out-of-body states there is no filter and reactions are purely impulsive.
“when you're in these out of body states, there's no like filter. It's like, it's so impulse.”
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For the first couple of years of his out-of-body experiences (OBEs), Jason Quitt had no teachers and did not know what to do, so he fought off every entity that got on him, pulled at him, or tried to enter him.
“So for me, it was just kind of like, uh, fight like hell... And that was like the first couple of years because I didn't have any teachers. I didn't know what to do.”
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After a time the entity encounters became an annoyance to Jason Quitt, as sleep paralysis had, and he lost his fear of them and gained more control over the encounters.
“again, just like with the sleep paralysis, it becomes an annoyance and you have this, this anger towards you... it gets to a point where you just lose the fear and just like, okay, if you want to go, let's go, let's do this. And then after a while, um, you gain more control over it.”
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Jason Quitt came to crystals and Qigong through his out-of-body experiences, not the reverse.
“No, it actually reversed. ... That's what really got me into it was the outer body.”
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Jason Quitt left his body on the night after a psilocybin mushroom journey and found himself in what he took to be another world or dimension.
“I'll just say that this was after a mushroom journey... So it was the night after and I, I left my body. And I found myself in this other world. It was like this other dimension.”
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Whitley Strieber has been taken out of his body by the visitors, the non-human beings he describes encountering.
“I've been taken out of my body by them.”
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While Whitley Strieber was writing Communion, people suggested to him that what happened to him may have been an out-of-body experience.
“Because everyone was saying to me, well, maybe what happened to you was an out-of-body experience.”
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Whitley Strieber had not heard of an out-of-body experience until people suggested one as an explanation for what happened to him while he was writing Communion.
“I hadn't even heard of an out-of-body experience until then.”
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While researching out-of-body experiences, Whitley Strieber came out of his body one night in what he described as a completely clean break.
“So I was researching it and I came out of my body one night and I, boy, it was remarkable. It was a completely clean break.”
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During his out-of-body experience, Whitley Strieber moved around his bedroom, looked at his own body lying there with his wife Anne Strieber beside him, and moved through the wall and window into the front yard.
“And I moved around in the bedroom, looked at my body lying there, my wife beside me, moved through the wall and window into the front yard and moved around in the front yard a bit”
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Whitley Strieber had trouble returning to his body after his out-of-body experience because he kept slipping out of it.
“I had all kinds of trouble getting back into it because I kept slipping out of it.”
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Whitley Strieber returned instantly to his body during his out-of-body experience after seeing an apparition of his father in the front yard who asked when he was going to come and help.
“Then suddenly I'm in the front yard again. There's my dad. He looks up at me. He says, when are you going to come help me? I was back in my body in a second.”
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Whitley Strieber was never able to leave his body deliberately again after that one out-of-body experience, and can only leave it when the visitors take him out.
“Okay, I never was able to get out like that again. I can only get out if they take me out.”
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In her dream Julia Mossbridge levitated to the top of a tower resembling the Stanford University bell tower, looked out of the portholes at the top, then burst through the ceiling and realised she was not in her own body.
“I'm like fly essentially, I levitate to the top of this tower that looks like the Stanford bell tower. And I look around out of the holes, the little portholes at the top of the tower, and then I burst through the ceiling. And then that's when I realize that's not my body”
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In Julia Mossbridge's dream, her inability to pass through the tower ceiling had been a matter of belief, and the counsellor's goal was to get her to disregard the rules of physicality and assume she could pass through things.
“I've been letting the ceiling stop me like it's a belief thing. And it was in a frame where we were very much working together on this goal of getting me to be able to just burst through this and get away from the sort of rules of the physicality of things”
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Chris Ramsay understands the goal described by Jordan Jozak in his conversations and published writing to have been getting participants out of body and having them build a construct for the programme's operators.
“you mentioned Jordan Jozak which also you know that was kind of the goal from his conversations and and what you know hearing him and reading you know what he put out ... was this kind of idea of like yeah get get out of body ... and like build this construct or whatever for them”
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Julia Mossbridge considers getting people to go out of their body unsafe for them if it is not done well, because if consciousness can leave the body then another consciousness could enter it.
“I feel like there's this piece where getting people to go out of their body is very unsafe for them. ... I think not if it's not done well. It can be very unsafe. Because if you're out of your body, what can go into your body?”
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Remote viewing does not involve the practitioner physically going anywhere and is not an out-of-body experience, a point people commonly confuse.
“People get that confused with remote viewing. You're not actually going anywhere. This isn't an out of body experience.”
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Julia Mossbridge has had multiple dreams in which she is having an out-of-body experience, but has not had an out-of-body experience during a waking state.
“So I have multiple dreams like that of where I'm having an out-of-body experience, but I don't. Chris Ramsay: Never during a waking state? Julia Mossbridge: not ever”
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Chris Ramsay woke up hovering over his own body on two consecutive nights, while fully awake, approximately two years before the recording of the podcast episode "Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99".
“yeah i have uh two years ago or two years ago i suppose it was two years ago now um yeah i had uh involuntarily two nights in a row woke up hovering over my body like woke up i was wide awake”
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Chris Ramsay's first out-of-body experiences happened at his home, not at the Monroe Institute.
“Julia Mossbridge: were you at Monroe? Chris Ramsay: nope i was at home and i'd never heard about this stuff before”
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Chris Ramsay had never heard of out-of-body experiences before his first one occurred.
“nope i was at home and i'd never heard about this stuff before”
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Chris Ramsay entered his first out-of-body experience by forcing his eyes open inside a nightmare while aware it was a nightmare, having been in deep sleep.
“I was in deep sleep and then had a nightmare and then forced my eyes open in the nightmare to like wake up because I was conscious that it was a nightmare.”
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During his first out-of-body experience Chris Ramsay saw his bedroom as grainy, out of focus and low in saturation.
“everything was like out of focus, like it felt grainy... Um, low saturation”
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During his first out-of-body experience Chris Ramsay felt a deep buzzing hum through his body, which he compared to being a struck tuning fork, and found the sensation almost euphoric.
“felt this buzz, this incredible, like deep, like hum, like I was a tuning fork and someone just slapped me... it was almost euphoric, like a nice feeling.”
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Chris Ramsay had flown in dreams before his out-of-body experiences and recognised the same sensation of being able to will himself upwards.
“because I've flown in dreams before and I felt like, oh, I could just, this is the same feeling. I could just will myself up.”
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Chris Ramsay willed himself up out of his body during his first out-of-body experience, became frightened, and paddled back down to his bed.
“I could just will myself up. And I did that. It scared me. And I started paddling down.”
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Chris Ramsay considers his out-of-body state objectively different from a lucid dream, having woken from a lucid dream into it.
“It objectively didn't feel like a lucid dream. Like, I woke up from a lucid dream into that, whatever that state was.”
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Chris Ramsay had taken melatonin, which he does not usually take, on the night of his first out-of-body experience.
“So, and I'd taken melatonin that night, which I don't usually take.”
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Chris Ramsay wished for the out-of-body experience to recur, and it happened again the following night.
“And the next night I was like, I want it to happen again. And it did.”
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During his second out-of-body experience Chris Ramsay turned around and saw his own body lying on the bed.
“And I remember willing myself up and this time turning around and seeing myself laying there”
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Chris Ramsay describes the out-of-body state as walking a tightrope of fear in which thinking of something terrible or good would instantly manifest, so he tried to think of nothing.
“I always say it's like, uh, like you're walking a tight rope of fear, like instant manifestation will happen... So I just didn't want to think of anything.”
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Returning from his second out-of-body experience, Chris Ramsay descended past his own body, feeling himself pass through it, which frightened him because he had not known descent below the body was possible.
“i remember swimming back to my body going lower than my body feeling my body as i falling through it... I didn't know you can go down like that was very frightening to me.”
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Joseph McMoneagle was sent on weekend retreats to the Monroe Institute during his time on the Stargate Project to test whether leaving his body would make remote viewing sessions more accurate.
“I remembered a conversation I had with Joe McMoneagle, Joseph McMoneagle. during the time that he was at Stargate, that they had sent him, you know, on weekend retreats to the Monroe Institute to see if he can leave his body and to see if that would be more conducive for a more accurate remote viewing session.”
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Before having his own out-of-body experience, Chris Ramsay disbelieved Joseph McMoneagle's account of leaving his body and suspected he was misinterpreting a dream.
“Maybe a dream he's having and he's misinterpreting a dream or something, right?”
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Chris Ramsay concluded his out-of-body experience was not a dream because he had no prior knowledge of the phenomenon yet had the same experience others described.
“And I was like, this is objectively not a dream now. I know this because I didn't know anything about this.”
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Chris Ramsay began having regular out-of-body experiences after about three months of daily hour-long morning meditation.
“And then after about three months, I started having regular out-of-body experiences.”
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Chris Ramsay began rolling out of his body from vivid or lucid dreams during the night.
“And then it started happening where I would go into vivid dreams or lucid dreaming, and I would roll out of a lucid dream out of my body.”
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Chris Ramsay had an out-of-body experience at about 05:30 in the morning in full sunlight immediately after an hour of meditation, remaining lucid throughout and never falling asleep.
“One morning at 5:30 in the morning, sun's blaring in my room. I have no curtains in my room and I meditate for an hour. And I put the headphones down. And as soon as my head hit the pillow, I felt the thrumming, the, the, the vibration... And I just get up out of my body and I was lucid the entire time. I didn't fall asleep for a second.”
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During his daylight out-of-body experience Chris Ramsay walked around his room and heard a female voice, which frightened him and made him return to his body after about 30 seconds.
“And I get up and I walk around my room and then I hear a female voice, um, which scared me. And so I looked and I go right back in my body, but that short 30 seconds.”
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Chris Ramsay treated his daylight out-of-body experience as confirmation of the phenomenon and it was the last one he sought.
“and that was the last time I was like all right got my confirmation”
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Three other people Chris Ramsay spoke with at Contact in the Desert each said their out-of-body experiences also began about three to three and a half months into daily meditation.
“multiple people i've talked to at a convention the same convention i met you at uh we were i was with like three other people and we were having this discussion and i told my story and all three of the other people said for them it also happened at about three three and a half months into meditating every day”
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Chris Ramsay regards roughly three months of daily meditation as the amount of time needed to reach the Kundalini or out-of-body experience.
“I guess that much time to achieve like this Kundalini or this like experience.”
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Chris Ramsay no longer seeks out-of-body experiences, and not out of fear of them.
“And for me, I don't seek it anymore, not because I'm afraid of it.”
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Chris Ramsay considers the out-of-body state to resemble what people describe happening when they die, possibly a transitional state rather than the afterlife.
“there was this sentiment of, okay, this seems to be like what happens to you when you die. This, this seems to be the phenomenon that people describe... this might not be the afterlife, it might just be transitional, might be something else.”
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Julia Mossbridge considers deliberately inducing out-of-body experiences potentially a little dangerous because the state resembles dying.
“Chris Ramsay: this seems to be like what happens to you when you die. Julia Mossbridge: Which is why I think it might be a little dangerous.”
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Julia Mossbridge considers Chris Ramsay's decision to stop seeking out-of-body experiences and stay in his body healthy.
“i think that's really healthy”
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Julia Mossbridge understands Joseph McMoneagle to have felt that going out of body did not help his remote viewing very much.
“but i also think Joe didn't feel like going out of body helped him very much”
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In a session described to Chris Ramsay by Joseph McMoneagle and by Edwin May, experimenters used ping-pong balls over the eyes to produce a Ganzfeld effect to stimulate an out-of-body state before asking Joseph McMoneagle to view a picture in an envelope in another room.
“He did say that he he had one session. I spoke to Ed May about this as well, Dr. May. And he said he had one session where there was a you know, get out of your body, go into the other, they started with the, uh, with the ping pong balls in the eye of the Gansfield sort of, uh, effect to like stimulate this, uh, out of body state. And then they said, get out of your body, walk into the other room and the envelope, there's a picture, go look at the picture and tell me what's on the picture.”
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In the out-of-body session recounted by Joseph McMoneagle, he could not physically interact with the envelope because he was out of his body, so he projected to where the photograph had been taken from and produced a drawing that matched the photograph exactly.
“And he did that, but he couldn't, he couldn't physically interact the envelope cause he was out of his body... And so he just tried to like project where he would be, where that photo was taken... And he drew and it was like a one for one.”
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Julia Mossbridge notes that Joseph McMoneagle could produce matching drawings of target photographs without going out of body, making the out-of-body result hard to interpret.
“to the photo but he was able to do that anyway without going out of body so it's a little tricky”
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Accounts of near-death experiences and out-of-body experiences describe people remaining aware and perceiving that they are separate from their body.
“we hear stories of people having uh or at least you know through near-death experiences or through out-of-body experiences uh we hear about them being aware That I'm still here, but my body's there, but I'm here.”
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Julia Mossbridge believes people can be made to dissociate from their bodies in order to go and retrieve information, if consciousness can indeed float free of the body.
“I think you can get people to dissociate from their bodies if your goal is to get them out of their body and to go get information, assuming the consciousness can float around like that”
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Chris Ramsay has had no contact experiences with non-human intelligence other than seeing some things in the sky and hearing a female voice during an out-of-body experience.
“Julia Mossbridge: Do you have any contact experiences? Chris Ramsay: No. No other than, you know, seeing some things in the sky. ... And then that one time throughout the out-of-body experience hearing a female voice.”
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The female voice Chris Ramsay heard during his out-of-body experience was indistinct, unfamiliar to him, and felt stern; it was not a physical person present in the house.
“it was an indistinct voice. I've never heard it, but it was stern. It felt very stern.”
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During his out-of-body experience Chris Ramsay could not push his hand through the window as taught at the Monroe Institute, so he moved to open the window instead.
“so I was trying to go through the window and I couldn't get my hand through the window. Like they taught me in Monroe. ... And then I went to go open the window in the out of body state.”
Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:05:08.5-02:05:19.0 observation first hand
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As Chris Ramsay was halfway out of the window during his out-of-body experience, he heard a female voice close to him say "what are you doing?", causing him to freeze and tense up.
“as I was leaping out halfway through, I hear right here, this female voice go, what are you doing? ... I shuddered like I my I froze. I remember tensing up like this”
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Chris Ramsay was frightened during his out-of-body experience and avoided looking towards the source of the voice, feeling instantly that he was somewhere he did not belong, a feeling that began before the voice spoke.
“I didn't want to look where that was coming from because it scared me. You feel like you're in a place where you don't belong. Instantly, you feel like I'm not supposed to be here. ... Julia Mossbridge: But you didn't before that voice. Chris Ramsay: Yeah, I did.”
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In Chris Ramsay's out-of-body experiences, which others have also described to him, he is free-floating and unbound inside his own physical body, which drives the urge to leave it.
“Now I'm like free floating inside my physical body... I'm like unbound to my body and you feel that... And so that's what makes you want to just get out.”
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During an out-of-body experience, Chris Ramsay heard a continuous ominous tone throughout the episode.
“But as soon as you're out, you realize because there is this tone, at least for me, like a like the entire time. And it's very ominous, like almost dreadful”
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During his out-of-body experience Chris Ramsay perceived the room he was in as not being his own room but a projection of his memory of it.
“this is a projection of my memory of my room, but you're not in your room. This is, this is a different place that you're not supposed to be here.”
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During his out-of-body experience Chris Ramsay felt certain he was not alone in the place he found himself.
“And you know that instantly, instantly I know that I am not alone in this world.”
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During his out-of-body experience Chris Ramsay heard a voice say "What are you doing? Back in bed", after which the experience immediately ended.
“And then as I go, I hear this voice. What are you doing? Back in bed. ... And yeah, instantly out.”
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Chris Ramsay's out-of-body experience occurred during a waking state with no interval of sleep.
“During a waking state, there was wasn't one millisecond where I fell asleep.”
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Chris Ramsay put his headphones down at 06:30 and his out-of-body experience had ended by about 06:32, with every second accounted for.
“And I, I looked at the time when I put my headphones down at 6:30. It was 6:30, uh, 6:30. And it was like 6:32. Like every second was accounted for.”
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Chris Ramsay felt safe on returning to his body after his out-of-body experience and did not sense anything else present.
“Julia Mossbridge: When you came back in your body, do you feel like anything else was there? Chris Ramsay: No. Julia Mossbridge: Did you feel safe back in your body? Chris Ramsay: Yeah.”
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Chris Ramsay doubts that what is called an out-of-body experience actually involves leaving the body, considering the label a convenience because the experience feels that way.
“I feel like when you have an out-of-body experience, we call it an out-of-body experience. I don't know that that's what's happening.”
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Robert Monroe described the environment encountered in an out-of-body experience as not being one's actual room.
“But as even Robert Monroe talks about and as I've experienced, it's not your room.”
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Chris Ramsay estimates the room perceived during an out-of-body experience matches the real room roughly 80 per cent, being a memory of the room rather than the room itself.
“It's like an 80%. It's your memory of your room.”
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Julia Mossbridge considers it possible that an out-of-body experience is the person wandering within the brain's own construction of where the body is in space and what the room looks like.
“You could be your, your brain. literally has a construction of where your body is in space and what your room looks like and you could be wandering around in there”
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Chris Ramsay raises bilocation - being in and out of the body at the same time - as an alternative explanation for out-of-body experiences.
“or bi-locating ... you know who who says i can't be in and out of my body at the same time”
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Julia Mossbridge holds that obtaining veridical information during an out-of-body experience, such as reading a target hidden in an envelope, does not prove the person left their body, because someone gifted at remote viewing could acquire that information while having the experience.
“this thing about getting veridical information like looking in the envelope ends up being important but it's not important because you can literally just remote view while you're having an out-of-body experience if you're gifted at it. So it doesn't actually prove that you've left your body.”
Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:08:50.4-02:09:04.6 opinion first hand
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Certain neurological disorders can produce the experience of feeling out of one's body.
“Well, there's certain neurological disorders that will give you that experience.”
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Julia Mossbridge wonders whether dementia processes resemble losing the tether to space-time or to being in one's body, because the brain regions that construct those things are affected.
“I just wonder how much of that the dementia processes are similar to like losing the tether to space time or to being in your body. ... Just because the brain is being impacted in the way that constructs these things.”
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Chris Ramsay has no fear of another entity taking over his body during an out-of-body experience, because he does not fully believe he leaves his body.
“that's why I don't have a fear of like somebody else taking over my body because I don't fully think I'm even out of my body.”
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Chris Ramsay regards the out-of-body state as a non-physical reality, and suggests part of his consciousness may project that reality while another part remains in his body.
“But I do feel like this is a non-physical reality that I'm currently experiencing. ... perhaps part of my consciousness is projecting ... and the other part of the consciousness is well intact in my body”
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During his out-of-body experience Chris Ramsay did not recognise his own body when he looked at it, initially perceiving it as a stranger before realising it was himself.
“you you don't recognize yourself because well i at least i don't because like when have you ever seen yourself with your eyes closed ... is that a stranger? Like, and then you get the realization that it's you”
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During his out-of-body experience Chris Ramsay's body did not appear dead, and appeared slightly fuzzy rather than fully detailed.
“Julia Mossbridge: So the body doesn't look dead or? Chris Ramsay: no no it and it's um it's not entirely in detail like it's a little fuzzy too”
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Chris Ramsay heard that the visual clarity of out-of-body experiences increases with repeated practice, and describes his own first few experiences as low resolution.
“i think what i heard was the more you go out of body the clearer it gets like you upgrade to like the hd version of it like if you've done it enough so i had the very low res version for my first few experiences”
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The voice Chris Ramsay heard during his out-of-body experience sounded like a human woman, stern, and did not sound like his mother or anyone he recognised.
“No, it didn't sound like my mother. ... Julia Mossbridge: Was it human? Chris Ramsay: Yeah. Well, it sounded like a human woman. ... But like stern is the only way I can put it.”
Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:11:39.0-02:11:48.9 testimony first hand
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During his out-of-body experience Chris Ramsay saw a rosary beside the window, an object he does not own, which contributed to his sense that the room was not his own.
“when I went to the window, beside the window, there was a rosary. I don't have a rosary in my house. ... that was one of the things where I was like, oh, this is not my room.”
Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:12:07.2-02:12:17.0 testimony first hand
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Julia Mossbridge raises the possibility that the unfamiliar room Chris Ramsay perceived during his out-of-body experience resulted from a journey through space-time.
“Or it could have been some weird space-time journey.”
Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:12:18.7-02:12:20.6 opinion first hand
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Chris Ramsay was actively trying to induce out-of-body experiences in order to find out whether the phenomenon was real, having had one happen to him.
“I was trying to actively have it... I just want to know if this was a thing, you know, because I had it happen to me.”
Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 lines 173-185 testimony first hand
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Immediately after sensing the presence in January 1987, Whitley Strieber found himself gliding in what he recognised as his mother's office in the old family house in San Antonio, Texas, where he lived as a baby.
“I'm not in the bedroom anymore... And I'm kind of gliding... This is my mother's office. which was there in the old house in San Antonio when I was a baby.”
Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 lines 202-214 testimony first hand