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    According to Major Murphy, the confusion surrounding the UFO mystery may have been deliberately introduced to achieve certain results, including keeping scientists away and creating conditions for a new form of social control.

    “According to Major Murphy, the confusion in the UFO mystery may have been put there deliberately to achieve certain results. One of these results has been to keep scientists away. The other is to create the conditions for a new form of social control, a change in Man’s perception of his place in the universe.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch10:21905-22206 opinion second hand

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    A representative of the Esoteric Fraternity told Jacques Vallée that UFOs began appearing after Enoch Penn and Hiram Erastus Butler had died, and speculated that an angel could sometimes be mistaken for a UFO.

    “"The UFO came in after these two authors, Penn and Butler, went to their rest. The only thing we can say is that an angel can sometimes be a UFO as well as a craft being a UFO."”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:24856-25027 testimony second hand

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    Jim Hurtak was a friend of Andrija Puharich, was involved in the Uri Geller affair, and claimed to be psychic and to have had UFO encounters.

    “He was a friend of Andrija Puharich, was deeply involved in the Uri Geller affair, and claimed to be psychic himself. Not only was he psychic, but he had had a number of UFO encounters”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:28344-28518 testimony first hand

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    Jim Hurtak told Jacques Vallée that UFOs are one aspect of higher evolutionary technology used to impress on materially-focused civilisations that there is a higher energy model controlling the technology.

    “The UFOs are merely one aspect of higher evolutionary technology. And they are used to impress upon civilizations purely in the material range of technology that there is a higher energy model controlling the technology.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:33133-33342 testimony first hand

  5. 5

    Jim Hurtak told Jacques Vallée that, according to the teachings of Enoch, UFOs combine magnetohydrodynamic energy and parallel-phase electromagnetic energy to travel several times the speed of light.

    “according to the teachings of Enoch, they have their own energy field. By combining what we call magnetohydrodynamic energy, parallel-phase electromagnetic energy, they are able to literally go several times the speed of light as we calculate it.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:33387-33630 testimony first hand

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    When asked by O'Hara whether UFO beings are among us now, a truck driver from Cupertino said he did not doubt UFOs exist but did not think beings had been sent to observe humans.

    “No, but I don't doubt there are people who do exist someplace else, because the UFOs are coming from somewhere, but I don't think they need to send anyone down here to observe us. I don't doubt the existence of UFOs. But among us, no.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:39103-39334 opinion second hand

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    A TV production worker interviewed by O'Hara said he was convinced flying saucers exist because he and Carol saw one in La Jolla, California, a diamond-shaped object with flashing lights that moved away after initially appearing to be a bright star.

    “No [he said], but I am convinced of the existence of flying saucers, because Carol and I saw one in La Jolla. It was sort of diamond-shaped, with a number of points of flashing lights. At first we thought it was an especially bright star, until it started moving away. We were completely sober.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:39515-39803 testimony second hand

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    Jacques Vallée suggests that the UFO phenomenon represents a technology, like the television set, that manipulates the perceptions of the human mind.

    “I suggest that it represents a technology, like the television set, that manipulates the perceptions of the human mind.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:51045-51159 opinion first hand

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    Jacques Vallée coined the term "the Manipulators" for the hypothetical agents who might cause UFO contacts and engineer their effects.

    “The Manipulators... I have given this name to the hypothetical agents who might cause the UFO contacts and engineer their effects.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:51583-51705 opinion first hand

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    Major Murphy suggested that UFOs might not be spacecraft but what he called "psychotronic devices."

    “suggested that the UFOs might not be spacecraft, but what he called "psychotronic devices."”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:53129-53211 opinion first hand

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    Major Murphy speculated that a device obtained by the end of World War II, ineffective as a flying weapon, could emit radiation causing paralysis and hallucinations in witnesses who flew over an area exposed to it, and asked whether such tests occurred in Sweden in 1946 and the United States in 1947, and whether a group might already understand or be controlling the UFO phenomenon.

    “For instance, it could emit radiation that caused paralysis and hallucinations as it flew over an area, so that witnesses exposed to it would think they saw the phantasms of their own imagination. Did somebody test that kind of a device in Sweden in 1946, and in the States in 1947, and find it to be ineffective as a flying machine, but very useful as a means of propaganda? Has such a group already understood what UFOs were, and are they confusing the issue by simulating UFO waves? Or is the entire phenomenon under their control?”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:55547-56073 opinion first hand

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    Major Murphy said there is a capability to create artificially both UFO sightings and the effects reported by contactees, and a possibility that some group has already understood the whole puzzle.

    “There is a UFO phenomenon, and there have been contactees claiming intimate knowledge of it since time immemorial. But there is also a capability to create artificially both the UFO sightings and the effects reported by contactees. Furthermore, there is a possibility that some group has already understood the whole puzzle...”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:56491-56808 opinion first hand

  13. 13

    Major Murphy told Jacques Vallée that a few well-placed stories and a well-planned publicity programme could produce sightings of UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) across thousands of people, without secret agents individually suggesting sightings to each person.

    “you don't need to do all that. A few well-placed stories, a well-planned program publicizing sensational incidents, will do marvels.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:60282-60406 opinion first hand

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    Major Murphy suggested that most UFO groups, including major civilian organisations, may be influenced by strange people, and that the pattern of conditioning found in computer studies of UFO sightings may be aimed at long-term social changes.

    “You might find that most of the UFO groups, including the major civilian organizations, are influenced by some strange people. And the pattern of conditioning you have discovered in your computer studies of UFO sightings may turn out to be aimed at long-term social changes.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:61762-62028 opinion first hand

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    Major Murphy told Jacques Vallée that UFOs are only one tool in the manipulators' arsenal, and that if the beings behind the phenomenon are human they must occasionally reveal themselves despite being skilled at misdirecting attention.

    “If I'm not mistaken, the UFOs are only one aspect of their activity, one tool in their arsenal. If these beings are human, they have to reveal themselves occasionally, even if they are very good at misdirecting our attention.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:62617-62832 opinion first hand

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    Members of the group Raymond Bernard encountered told him that they await the coming of the Kingdom of Graal, which will occur when UFOs land on Earth, or as they phrased it, when the knights of the Earth meet the celestial knights of the macrocosm.

    “they wait for the 'coming of the Kingdom of Graal.' When will this take place? When the UFOs land on Earth, or, as the men told Bernard, 'When the knights of the Earth meet the celestial knights of the macrocosm.'”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:73574-73776 testimony second hand

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    Jacques Vallée observed that the United States Air Force made many naive and misguided attempts to understand UFOs, using censorship and force to try to get rid of flying saucers, believing the objects were a direct military threat.

    “The U.S. Air Force has made many naive and misguided attempts to understand UFOs. It has tried, patiently at first, desperately sometimes, to get rid of 'flying saucers.' To that end it has used power from the scissors of its censors and from the barrels of its guns. It was looking for evidence that the objects were a direct military threat to the United States.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:75747-76104 opinion first hand

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    Jacques Vallée believes whoever first manages to harness the fear of cosmic forces and the emotions surrounding UFO contact for a political purpose would be able to exert incredible spiritual blackmail.

    “The group of people who will first manage to harness the fear of cosmic forces and the emotions surrounding UFO contact to a political purpose will be able to exert incredible spiritual blackmail.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:76190-76376 opinion first hand

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    Jacques Vallée states that a man in the White House has seen a UFO and is impressed by what he saw.

    “There is in the White House a man who has seen a UFO and is impressed by what he saw.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:77071-77152 opinion first hand

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    Jacques Vallée believes there is a very real UFO problem that is being manipulated for political ends, with the manipulators possibly being human beings with a plan for social control.

    “I believe there is a very real UFO problem, I have also come to suspect that it is being manipulated for political ends. And the data suggest that the manipulators may be human beings with a plan for social control.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch11:77421-77628 opinion first hand

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    Captain Wolverton, the officer in charge of investigating UFO-related reports in Cascade County, said the Sheriff's office records were filled with numerous UFO sighting reports, some describing a saucer-shaped craft or a giant pear-shaped object, and others describing a large object resembling a two-story building with lights resembling windows.

    “The records [of the Sheriffs office] are filled with numerous reports of UFO sightings... These varied from a saucer-shaped craft or something that looked like a giant pear, to a large object that looked like a two-story building with lights resembling windows.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch12:11672-11979 testimony first hand

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    On December 8-9, 1975, there were two UFO landings on a ranch near Simms, Montana, where the rancher's wife and children saw a large white light with a red light on top come to the ground near where the carcass of a calf, already dead from natural causes, had been left.

    “There were two UFO landings on a ranch near Simms, Montana, on December 8 and 9, 1975. The ranchers wife and children saw the object – a large white light with a red light on top – come to the ground in an area where the carcass of a calf, already dead from natural causes, had been left on the grass, about a half mile from the house.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch12:12057-12386 testimony

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    Cattle mutilations are often reported in the western United States at the same time and in the same area as sightings of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

    “I am referring to the many reports of cattle mutilations that are reported throughout the Western states, often at the same time and in the same area as UFO sightings.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch12:1504-1661 opinion first hand

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    A team from Reese Air Force Base investigated the Cochran County, Texas cattle mutilation site and found no abnormal radioactivity, the only unusual circumstance being frequent recent UFO reports in the area.

    “A team from Reese Air Force Base went to the area and found no abnormal radioactivity. The only unusual circumstances that were related to the case were frequent recent reports of UFOs in the area.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch12:15807-15999 observation

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    Jacques Vallée identified three positions people take regarding cattle mutilations: that the cattle died naturally and were mutilated by predators or by isolated sensation-seekers; that an organisation is secretly conducting large-scale cattle mutilation as part of a witchcraft cult or a secret government testing programme; or that the mutilations are caused by UFOs and their occupants.

    “(1) the cattle have died naturally and were mutilated by predators, or were killed by a few isolated sensation-seekers; (2) there is an organization secretly conducting large-scale mutilation of cattle... (3) the mutilations are caused by UFOs and their occupants.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch12:2015-2321 opinion first hand

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    Intense blinding lights from the sky were often associated with the cattle mutilation events.

    “intense blinding lights from the sky were often associated with the events”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch12:23181-23249 observation

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    Jacques Vallée considers that the intelligence community has only two good reasons to hide the truth about the UFO/mutilation phenomenon: either it is secretly causing it for its own purposes and does not want it examined closely, or it simply does not know the answers.

    “It seems to me that the intelligence community has only two good reasons to hide the truth about such a phenomenon: either it is secretly causing it for its own purposes and doesn't want the phenomenon examined too closely... or it simply doesn't know the answers.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch12:30167-30470 opinion first hand

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    Jacques Vallée considers that the so-called UFO censorship may be more of a bluff than a cover-up, since the first rule of any secret agent is to always appear to know everything.

    “Since the first rule of any secret agent is to always appear to know everything, the so-called UFO censorship may be more of a bluff than a cover-up.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch12:30479-30625 opinion first hand

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    In October 1975 a preliminary intelligence report entitled "Intelligence information regarding occult activities throughout the United States" was prepared for the U.S. attorney in Minneapolis, and it actually centred on cattle and human mutilations and their relationship to UFOs.

    “In October 1975, a preliminary Intelligence Report was prepared for the U.S. attorney in Minneapolis. Although it was entitled "Intelligence information regarding occult activities throughout the United States," it really centered on cattle and human mutilations and their relationship to UFOs.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch12:31892-32181 administrative second hand

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    Dan Dugan said the cult also killed animals with tranquilizer pellets and took particular care not to leave any tracks, often discussing how authorities would eventually blame the killings on UFOs, which is what came to pass.

    “He said they all got a particular "thrill" over not leaving any tracks, and often talked about how the authorities would sooner or later begin blaming the whole thing on UFOs, which is what came to pass.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch12:35379-35577 hearsay second hand

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    John McCoy introduced into the UFO picture the idea that a Jewish Banker conspiracy was involved in the UFO problem.

    “He introduced into the picture the idea that the Jewish Banker conspiracy was involved in the UFO problem.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:12504-12602 administrative first hand

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    Ray Stanford, reversing his earlier position about the inadequacy of science, operates a UFO detection station in Austin, Texas using donated electronic equipment.

    “Ray, in a remarkable reversal of his earlier position about the inadequacy of science, operates a UFO detection station using donated electronic equipment. Installed in Austin, Texas, the organization uses an apparently "scientific" approach to the identification of UFOs.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:14007-14274 administrative first hand

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    Bob Barry stated in June 1978 that he had three excellent sources, one in government, the others retired from highly sensitive positions, who asserted that the government was quite concerned with the UFO problem and had recovered a total of 18 bodies after UFO crashes.

    “Barry stated in June 1978 that he had three excellent sources, one in government, the others retired from highly sensitive positions, who asserted that the government was quite concerned with the UFO problem and had recovered a total of 18 bodies after UFO crashes.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:14605-14862 hearsay second hand

  34. 34

    Bob Barry observed that public reaction to the film UFOs: Past, Present, and Future by Alan Sandler Productions was good, leading to the next step being the film Close Encounters, after which government advisories that UFOs are indeed with us would begin.

    “So the next step was the film Close Encounters. Now, in a little while, there doubtless will be the beginning of government advisories that UFOs are indeed with us.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:15359-15520 opinion first hand

  35. 35

    Jacques Vallée considers that UFO enthusiasts trying to expose the government through Freedom of Information Act lawsuits may be playing into the hands of the manipulators of the phenomenon.

    “But the UFO enthusiasts who are so anxious to "expose" the government have not reflected that they may, once again, be playing into the hands of the manipulators.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:16085-16234 opinion first hand

  36. 36

    Jacques Vallée proposes two hypotheses in this chapter for what UFOs could be if not spacecraft: the "Martian Conspiracy" and the "Esoteric Intervention."

    “Accordingly, I will present two hypotheses: the "Martian Conspiracy"; and the "Esoteric Intervention."”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:17879-17967 opinion first hand

  37. 37

    As of 1978, when Jacques Vallée was writing this book, civilian UFO groups, contactee organizations, various occult sects, and government branches were engaged in a strange sort of game he called manipulation or exploitation.

    “As I write this in 1978, the civilian UFO groups, the contactee organizations, many occult sects, and various government branches are engaged in a strange sort of game. What I have called "manipulation" may be simple exploitation.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:1925-2142 opinion first hand

  38. 38

    Major Murphy taught Jacques Vallée the art of recognizing shadowy figures who had infiltrated UFO groups.

    “I still have a lot to learn from Major Murphy. Among the lessons he taught me was the art of recognizing some of the shadowy figures who had infiltrated the UFO groups.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:2930-3091 testimony first hand

  39. 39

    Jacques Vallée checked the lists of trustees, directors, and advisers of major UFO groups against the computer database of the New York Times and references such as Who's Who.

    “I checked the lists of trustees, directors, and advisers of the major UFO groups. Some aspects of the mystery became a little clearer when their names were checked against the computer data base of the New York Times, or in such commonly available references as Who's Who.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:3450-3718 testimony first hand

  40. 40

    Various magazines in the United States systematically equate unidentified flying objects and cattle mutilations to media hoaxes like the Bermuda Triangle.

    “There are various magazines in the United States which fulfill a debunking role. They are systematically equating unidentified flying objects and cattle mutilations to media hoaxes like the Bermuda Triangle.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:35384-35582 opinion first hand

  41. 41

    John Keel suggested in public statements and private conversations with Jacques Vallée that there may be a link between UFO events and occult phenomena.

    “A few investigators – notably Ray Palmer, John Keel, and Salvatore Freixedo – have suggested both in public statements and in private conversations with me that there may be a link between UFO events and “occult” phenomena.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:36972-37185 opinion second hand

  42. 42

    Ray Palmer suggested in public statements and private conversations with Jacques Vallée that there may be a link between UFO events and occult phenomena.

    “A few investigators – notably Ray Palmer, John Keel, and Salvatore Freixedo – have suggested both in public statements and in private conversations with me that there may be a link between UFO events and “occult” phenomena.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:36972-37185 opinion second hand

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    Salvatore Freixedo suggested in public statements and private conversations with Jacques Vallée that there may be a link between UFO events and occult phenomena.

    “A few investigators – notably Ray Palmer, John Keel, and Salvatore Freixedo – have suggested both in public statements and in private conversations with me that there may be a link between UFO events and “occult” phenomena.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:36972-37185 opinion second hand

  44. 44

    Many UFO phenomena reported by witnesses involve the poltergeist effect, levitation, psychic control, healing, and out-of-body experiences that are familiar from occult literature.

    “Many of the phenomena reported by witnesses involve the poltergeist effect, levitation, psychic control, healing, and out-of-body experiences: things quite familiar to those who know the occult literature.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:37467-37661 opinion first hand

  45. 45

    Jacques Vallée resigned from the supposedly "scientific" UFO organizations with which he had been affiliated.

    “I resigned from the supposedly "scientific" UFO organizations with which I had been affiliated.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:3763-3847 testimony first hand

  46. 46

    Jacques Vallée considers the standards of evidence acceptable in the scientific laboratory to be insufficient to deal with UFO data.

    “The standards of evidence acceptable in the scientific laboratory are not sufficient to deal with UFO data.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:47557-47659 opinion first hand

  47. 47

    Jacques Vallée considers the UFO phenomenon to be a precursor of a major discontinuity in human affairs.

    “The UFO phenomenon is a precursor of a major discontinuity.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:48711-48756 opinion first hand

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    Jacques Vallée considers the UFO phenomenon to represent a manifestation of a reality that transcends current understanding of physics.

    “I still feel that the UFO phenomenon represents a manifestation of a reality that transcends our current understanding of physics.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:48890-49012 opinion first hand

  49. 49

    Jacques Vallée believes there is a system around us that transcends time and space, and suspects some humans have already understood it and are showing their hand in aspects of UFO encounters.

    “I believe there is a system around us that transcends time as it transcends space. I remain confident that human knowledge is capable of understanding this larger reality. I suspect that some humans have already understood it, and are showing their hand in several aspects of the UFO encounters.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:49664-49948 opinion first hand

  50. 50

    Jacques Vallée considers UFOs to be physical manifestations that cannot be understood apart from their psychic and symbolic reality, describing the phenomenon as a control system which acts on humans and uses humans rather than an alien invasion.

    “The UFOs are physical manifestations that cannot be understood apart from their psychic and symbolic reality. What we see in effect here is not an alien invasion. It is a control system which acts on humans and uses humans.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:50189-50405 opinion first hand

  51. 51

    Jacques Vallée identifies six major social effects of the belief in UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) observed throughout his investigation, reflected in personal interviews and in quotations from the books and pamphlets of contactee organisations.

    “We have seen six major effects throughout this investigation. They were reflected in personal interviews and in quotations from the books and pamphlets of contactee organizations.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:65240-65405 opinion first hand

  52. 52

    Jacques Vallée considers that belief in UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) widens the gap between the public and scientific institutions.

    “The belief in UFOs widens the gap between the public and scientific institutions.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:65424-65492 opinion first hand

  53. 53

    Major Murphy suggests that intelligence agencies use UFO groups to get information marginally useful to them, which group leaders may not recognize as important or relevant.

    “The Major has a simple answer. He suggests that the "spooks" use the UFO groups to get information that is marginally useful to them, information that the group leaders themselves may not recognize as being important or relevant.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:6671-6891 opinion second hand

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    Jacques Vallée considers that increased attention given to UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) activity promotes the concept of political unification of the planet, and describes this as the most commonly recurring theme in his entire study of contactee groups.

    “Increased attention given to UFO activity promotes the concept of political unification of this planet. This is perhaps the most commonly recurring theme in my entire study of these groups.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:67267-67449 opinion first hand

  55. 55

    According to Jacques Vallée, some UFO cases in France have been investigated by five government agencies.

    “In France, some UFO cases have been investigated by five government agencies.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:7498-7566 observation first hand

  56. 56

    A recently declassified CIA/USAF panel on UFOs that met in 1953 recommended monitoring the activities of civilian UFO groups.

    “One of the recommendations of a recently declassified CIA/USAF panel on UFOs, which met in 1953, was precisely to monitor the activities of civilian groups”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:7950-8099 administrative second hand

  57. 57

    The Robertson Panel's report stated that the "Civilian Flying Saucer Investigators" of Los Angeles and the "Aerial Phenomena Research Organization" of Wisconsin should be watched because of their great influence on mass thinking should widespread sightings occur, and noted the apparent irresponsibility and possible use of such groups for subversive purposes.

    “The Panel took cognizance of the existence of such groups as the "Civilian Flying Saucer Investigators" of Los Angeles and the "Aerial Phenomena Research Organization" (Wisconsin). It was believed that such organizations should be watched because of their great influence on mass thinking if widespread sightings should occur. The apparent irresponsibility and the possible use of such groups for subversive purposes should be kept in mind.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:8108-8543 administrative second hand

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    Jacques Vallée considers that the UFO phenomenon evidence does not indicate the preliminary stages of a friendly landing from outer space, but a dangerous process occurring on Earth.

    “The evidence continues to indicate that we are not dealing with the preliminary stages of a friendly landing from outer space. It has become clear that we are dealing with a very dangerous process right here on Earth, whatever the ultimate source of the UFO phenomenon happens to be.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:815-1095 opinion first hand

  59. 59

    In a 1976 article in the youth newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda, writer Yeremei Parnov implied that those who spread UFO stories are flirting with superstitions and religious impulses indirectly manipulated by the Pentagon.

    “In 1976, an article in the youth newspaper Komsomolskaya Pravda, by writer Yeremei Parnov, implied that those who spread UFO stories are "flirting with superstitions and religious impulses indirectly manipulated by the Pentagon."”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:8618-8837 hearsay second hand

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    According to Yeremei Parnov, the goal of the manipulation of UFO stories is to frighten American citizens into approving the growth of defense spending and to use the specter of flying saucers to fan the Cold War.

    “The goal of the manipulation, according to Parnov, is to frighten American citizens into approving the growth of defense spending and to use "the specter of flying saucers to fan the Cold War."”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:8848-9036 opinion second hand

  61. 61

    In a press release dated 1976-03-29, two futurologists predicted that the present world political order would be transformed into an economically integrated, largely capitalist society, and claimed that UFOs were messages from higher intelligent beings signaling this peaceful political transformation.

    “In a press release dated March 29, 1976, two futurologists predicted that the present world political order would be transformed into an economically integrated, largely capitalist society. Such phenomena as UFOs were messages from higher intelligent beings signaling the peaceful political transformation of Man, they said.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch13:9043-9362 hearsay second hand

  62. 62

    Jacques Vallée believes that once the public shifts from dismissing UFOs as nonsense, it will move to the opposite extreme of believing in space visitations.

    “Unfortunately, once disturbed from its comfortable position of rest, the public will shift to the other extreme and start believing in space visitations.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch14:3203-3344 opinion first hand

  63. 63

    A 1973 Gallup poll found that 93 percent of Americans were aware of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

    “a 1973 Gallup poll found that almost all Americans (93 percent) were aware of UFOs”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch15:10051-10129 measurement second hand

  64. 64

    A 1973 Gallup poll found that 15 million American adults thought they had actually seen an Unidentified Flying Object (UFO).

    “15 million adults thought they had actually seen one.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch15:10139-10188 measurement second hand

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    David Swift considers simultaneous radar and visual sightings of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) particularly hard to dismiss.

    “simultaneous radar and visual sightings are particularly hard to dismiss.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch15:1016-1081 opinion first hand

  66. 66

    The percentage of Americans aware of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) who answered "real" to the question "Are UFOs real or imaginary?" increased from 46 percent in 1966 to 54 percent in 1973 and to 57 percent in 1978.

    “the percentage of those responding "real" increased from 46 percent in 1966 to 54 percent in 1973, and to 57 percent in 1978, when only 27 per cent responded "imaginary."”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch15:10295-10454 measurement second hand

  67. 67

    In the 1978 poll, 27 percent of Americans aware of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) responded "imaginary" to the question of whether UFOs are real or imaginary.

    “and to 57 percent in 1978, when only 27 per cent responded "imaginary."”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch15:10394-10454 measurement second hand

  68. 68

    David Swift considers Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults to present a disturbing alternative to the two main theories about Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

    “This book presents a disturbing alternative to the two main theories about UFOs.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch15:114-189 opinion first hand

  69. 69

    Jacques Vallée observed that the genuine counter-culture of the era was not that of hippies or drugs, but rather the counter-culture of Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) contact.

    “as he observes, the genuine counter-culture of today is not that of hippies or drugs, but rather the counter-culture of UFO contact.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch15:12667-12791 opinion second hand

  70. 70

    Jacques Vallée observed that there are many reports of Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) landings in which the occupants have supposedly been surprised by Earthlings blundering onto them.

    “as Vallee observes, there are too many reports of landings in which UFO occupants have supposedly been surprised by Earthlings blundering onto them.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch15:1430-1573 observation second hand

  71. 71

    Jacques Vallée's early work proposed categories for classifying Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) reports and placed them in a broad geographical and historical context.

    “His early work proposed categories for classifying UFO reports, and placed them in a broad geographical and historical context.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch15:2555-2674 administrative first hand

  72. 72

    Jacques Vallée's more recent analysis shifted away from the UFO phenomenon itself to the effects of sightings on the witness and on society.

    “More recently his analysis has shifted away from the UFO itself to the effects of sightings on the witness and on society.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch15:2683-2797 administrative first hand

  73. 73

    Jacques Vallée concludes that Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) are real but does not think they are spaceships, instead suggesting they are physical devices for manipulating human beliefs, possibly by people on Earth.

    “Although Jacques Vallee concludes that UFOs are real, he does not think they are spaceships; instead, he suggests that they are physical devices for manipulating human beliefs, and that the manipulators may be people here on Earth”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch15:422-647 opinion second hand

  74. 74

    David Swift observed that contactee groups are, at present, small and have no obvious effect on society, except for discrediting serious research into the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) phenomenon.

    “At present, contactee groups are small, and have no obvious effect on society, except for discrediting serious research into the UFO phenomenon.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch15:6416-6549 opinion first hand

  75. 75

    Jacques Vallée has found no evidence that the UFO phenomenon represents the arrival of visitors from outer space, despite considering the phenomenon real and caused by an unknown physical stimulus.

    “Although the UFO phenomenon is real, and appears to be caused by an unknown physical stimulus, I have so far failed to discover any evidence that it represented the arrival of visitors from outer space.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:1643-1839 opinion first hand

  76. 76

    Jacques Vallée considers the UFO phenomenon to have three aspects: a physical manifestation, a psycho-physiological aspect, and a social belief system.

    “Instead it is my conclusion, Mr. Chairman, that this phenomenon has three aspects.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:1847-1921 opinion first hand

  77. 77

    Claude Poher conducted a study of the UFO phenomenon sponsored by an agency of the French Government.

    “Dr. Claude Poher, in his recently concluded study sponsored by an agency of the French Government, has now shown the way in this direction.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:2064-2193 administrative first hand

  78. 78

    In 1978 the Spanish Armed Forces released their files on UFO cases that had resisted analysis by their experts.

    “This year the Spanish armed forces have also released their files on cases that had resisted analysis by their experts.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:2204-2315 administrative first hand

  79. 79

    Witnesses of the psycho-physiological aspect of the UFO phenomenon exhibit disorientation symptoms.

    “Witnesses at the scene exhibit disorientation symptoms, a loss of the sense of time, partial paralysis or loss of voluntary muscle control, auditory and visual hallucinations, eye complaints ranging from conjunctivitis to temporary blindness, massive psychic reactions, and longer-term effects, such as disturbance of sleep and dream patterns and radical behavior changes.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:2521-2885 opinion first hand

  80. 80

    Witnesses of UFO encounters exhibit a loss of the sense of time.

    “a loss of the sense of time”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:2577-2600 opinion first hand

  81. 81

    Witnesses of UFO encounters exhibit partial paralysis or loss of voluntary muscle control.

    “partial paralysis or loss of voluntary muscle control”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:2606-2652 opinion first hand

  82. 82

    Witnesses of UFO encounters exhibit auditory and visual hallucinations.

    “auditory and visual hallucinations”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:2661-2681 opinion first hand

  83. 83

    Witnesses of UFO encounters exhibit eye complaints ranging from conjunctivitis to temporary blindness.

    “eye complaints ranging from conjunctivitis to temporary blindness”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:2697-2753 opinion first hand

  84. 84

    Witnesses of UFO encounters exhibit massive psychic reactions.

    “massive psychic reactions”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:2764-2780 opinion first hand

  85. 85

    Witnesses of UFO encounters exhibit longer-term effects such as disturbance of sleep and dream patterns and radical behaviour changes.

    “longer-term effects, such as disturbance of sleep and dream patterns and radical behavior changes”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:2795-2885 opinion first hand

  86. 86

    Jacques Vallée does not believe it is within the province or the budget of the United Nations to address the psycho-physiological effects of UFO encounters directly, except in facilitating exchanges among scholars and disseminating scientific information.

    “I do not believe it is within the province or the budget of the United Nations to address such effects directly, except where the United Nations Organization can serve its traditional role in disseminating scientific information and facilitating exchanges among scholars.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:2894-3156 opinion first hand

  87. 87

    Jacques Vallée considers the social belief system generated by the expectation of space visitors to be creating new religious, cultural, and political concepts that social science has taken little notice of.

    “This third aspect is the social belief system which has been generated in all the nations represented on this committee by the expectation of space visitors...it is creating new religious, cultural, and political concepts of which social science has taken little notice.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:3267-3580 opinion first hand

  88. 88

    Jacques Vallée has spent more than fifteen years conducting studies of UFO reports made through official and unofficial channels in France and in the United States.

    “I have spent more than fifteen years conducting studies of the reports made through official and unofficial channels in France and in the United States.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:3747-3892 testimony first hand

  89. 89

    Jacques Vallée's studies of UFO reports have been supported by extensive computer statistics.

    “These analyses have been supported by extensive computer statistics.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:3900-3957 administrative first hand

  90. 90

    Jacques Vallée has been in frequent communication with scientists in other parts of the world regarding the UFO phenomenon.

    “In addition, I have been in frequent communication with scientists in other parts of the world.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:3969-4058 testimony first hand

  91. 91

    Jacques Vallée considers the belief in space visitors independent of the physical reality of the UFO phenomenon.

    “The belief in space visitors is independent of the physical reality of the UFO phenomenon.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:4197-4276 opinion first hand

  92. 92

    Jacques Vallée considers the belief in the imminence of UFO contact an indication of a widening gap between the public and science.

    “The belief in the imminence of UFO "contact" is an indication of a widening gap between the public and science.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:4552-4655 opinion first hand

  93. 93

    Jacques Vallée attributes the widening gap between the public and science partly to a negative and prejudiced attitude with which scientific institutions have treated sincere witnesses of UFO phenomena.

    “We are beginning to pay the price for the negative and prejudiced attitude with which our scientific institutions have treated sincere witnesses of UFO phenomena.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:4664-4816 opinion first hand

  94. 94

    Jacques Vallée considers the expectation of contact with space visitors to promote the concept of political unification of the planet.

    “The expectation of contact with space visitors promotes the concept of political unification of our planet.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch16:5965-6065 opinion first hand

  95. 95

    Jacques Vallée has published six factual books on UFOs.

    “six factual books on UFOs”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch20:473-494 administrative

  96. 96

    Jacques Vallée pioneered research in the psychological, social and psychic aspects of the UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) phenomenon.

    “Dr. Vallee has pioneered research in the psychological, social and psychic aspects of the UFO phenomenon”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch20:500-594 administrative

  97. 97

    Jacques Vallée believes that UFOs (unidentified flying objects) are physically real.

    “I believe that UFOs are physically real.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch3:1737-1772 opinion first hand

  98. 98

    Jacques Vallée believes UFOs represent a fantastic technology controlled by an unknown form of consciousness.

    “They represent a fantastic technology controlled by an unknown form of consciousness.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch3:1778-1849 opinion first hand

  99. 99

    Jacques Vallée believes it would be dangerous to jump to premature conclusions about the origin and nature of UFOs, because the phenomenon serves as a vehicle for images that can be manipulated to promote belief systems aimed at long-term transformation of human society.

    “I also believe that it would be dangerous to jump to premature conclusions about their origin and nature, because the phenomenon serves as the vehicle for images that can be manipulated to promote belief systems tending to the long-term transformation of human society.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch3:1868-2129 opinion first hand

  100. 100

    Jacques Vallée sought to identify manipulators of the UFO phenomenon and highlight their activities, ranging from hoaxes to expeditions connected with mutilated animal carcasses found across the American landscape.

    “I have tried to identify some of the manipulators and to highlight their activities, which range from apparently harmless hoaxes such as the false professor George Adamski’s meetings with Venusian spacemen to bloody expeditions that have littered the American landscape with the carcasses of mutilated animals.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch3:2138-2440 testimony first hand

  101. 101

    Jacques Vallée considers the UFO phenomenon a possible control system linked to human consciousness rather than simply the technology of extraterrestrial beings.

    “now that I am pursuing the idea that UFOs may be a control system, and now that I am aware of their link to human consciousness. I still think there is a genuine technology at work here, causing the effects witnesses are describing. But I am not ready to jump to the conclusion that it is the technology of some kind of "spacemen."”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch4:11612-11933 opinion first hand

  102. 102

    Jacques Vallée describes the physical aspect of the UFO phenomenon as a region of space of small dimensions, about 10 metres, within which a very large amount of energy is stored.

    “The UFO behaves like a region of space, of small dimensions (about 10 meters), within which a very large amount of energy is stored.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch4:12020-12145 opinion first hand

  103. 103

    The subject of Jacques Vallée's meeting at the Science Adviser's office was unidentified flying objects (UFOs).

    “The subject of the discussion: unidentified flying objects.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch4:1221-1272 observation first hand

  104. 104

    In 1973, a journalist and a French Air Force intelligence officer met for lunch in a Paris restaurant to discuss the UFO issue.

    “One day in 1973 two friends met for lunch in a quiet Paris restaurant. One of them was a journalist with a long-standing interest in the UFO problem. The other was an intelligence officer with the French Air Force.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch4:14795-15003 testimony

  105. 105

    Evangelist Billy Graham suggested that UFOs may be "heavenly angels".

    “Evangelist Billy Graham, for example, has suggested that UFOs may, in fact, be “heavenly angels””

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch4:24388-24477 opinion second hand

  106. 106

    Jacques Vallée considers that UFOs represent an objective reality that can only be studied by revolutionising existing disciplines.

    “I think that UFOs represent an objective reality that we can study only by revolutionizing existing disciplines.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch4:33354-33454 opinion first hand

  107. 107

    Jacques Vallée proposes that the UFO phenomenon is, among other things, a device which creates a distortion of the witness's reality, doing so for the purpose of projecting images or fabricated scenes designed to change belief systems, and that the observed technology is only the incidental support for a worldwide enterprise of "subliminal seduction".

    “I propose: that the UFO we see is, among other things, a device which creates a distortion o f the witness’s reality; that it does so for a purpose, which is to project images or fabricated scenes designed to change our belief systems; and that the technology we observe is only the incidental support for a worldwide enterprise of “subliminal seduction.””

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch4:34825-35169 opinion first hand

  108. 108

    Jacques Vallée believes there is a machinery of mass manipulation behind the UFO phenomenon that aims at social and political goals by diverting attention from human problems and providing a potential release for tensions.

    “I believe there is a machinery of mass manipulation behind the UFO phenomenon. It aims at social and political goals by diverting attention from some human problems and by providing a potential release for tensions caused by others.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch4:36094-36319 opinion first hand

  109. 109

    Jacques Vallée concludes that UFOs are real, are physical devices used to affect human consciousness, may not be from outer space, and that their purpose may be to achieve social changes on Earth through systematic manipulation of witnesses and contactees, covert use of various sects and cults, and control of the channels through which alleged "space messages" impact the public.

    “UFOs are real. They are physical devices used to affect human consciousness. They may not be from outer space. Their purpose may be to achieve social changes on this planet, through a belief system that uses systematic manipulation of witnesses and contactees; covert use of various sects and cults; control of the channels through which the alleged “space messages” can make an impact on the public.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch4:37476-37869 opinion first hand

  110. 110

    The National Enquirer's panel of UFO case investigators, which includes representatives of leading civilian UFO research groups, decided that the link between UFOs and cattle mutilations was an idea whose time had not yet come.

    “The panel of investigators which the magazine maintains to review UFO cases – a committee on which leading civilian research groups are represented – has decided that the link between UFOs and the mutilators was an idea whose time had not yet come.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch4:39246-39485 administrative second hand

  111. 111

    Betty Hill described what was believed to be a star map used by UFO visitors, seen inside the flying saucer she encountered.

    “a witness of obvious sincerity, Mrs. Betty Hill, had described what was believed to be the star map used by our mysterious visitors”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:21055-21178 testimony second hand

  112. 112

    On 1961-09-19, Betty Hill and Barney Hill encountered a flying saucer in the White Mountains area of New Hampshire.

    “It is on September 19, 1961, in the White Mountains area of New Hampshire, that Betty and Barney Hill meet their flying saucer.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:21588-21708 observation second hand

  113. 113

    During a field trip in the Mojave Desert, Jacques Vallée photographed an apparent UFO formation using infrared film, which he attributes to artefacts of the film-development process.

    “Figure 1.2. During a field trip in the Mojave Desert, the author photographed this apparent “UFO formation” using infrared film. The “UFOs” are simply artifacts of the film-development process.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:21856-22041 observation first hand

  114. 114

    Betty Hill became a UFO celebrity and a rallying point for believers in extraterrestrial visitation, appearing frequently on talk shows and television.

    “Betty has become a UFO celebrity and a rallying point for the believers in extraterrestrial visitation. She is often heard on talk shows and seen on television.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:22882-23031 administrative

  115. 115

    Stanton Friedman and others gave lectures around the country showing slides of Marjorie Fish's model and the original Hill map, implying that UFOs were real spacecraft originating on Zeta Reticuli.

    “In many lectures around the country, Stanton Friedman and others have shown slides of the model and the original map, and have impressed audiences with the resemblance, implying that UFOs were real spacecraft originating on Zeta Reticuli.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:28661-28890 opinion second hand

  116. 116

    Jacques Vallée believes Betty Hill and Barney Hill really saw a UFO and that something unknown stopped their car and took control of their minds, and that they were not lying or "nuts."

    “Before I present my side of the story, I want to state that I think Betty and Barney Hill really saw a UFO and that something unknown stopped their car and took control of their minds. They were not lying, and they were not “nuts.””

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:29064-29289 opinion first hand

  117. 117

    Al Lawson and colleagues selected "imaginary abductees" for the imaginary abductees hypnosis study from unpaid volunteers recruited by campus newspaper advertising, eliminating those who seemed informed about UFOs or had had sightings.

    “Dr. Lawson and his colleagues selected “imaginary abductees” from among unpaid volunteers recruited by campus newspaper advertising. Those who seemed informed about UFOs and those who had had sightings were eliminated.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:37939-38146 administrative second hand

  118. 118

    Seven of the eight subjects in the imaginary abductees hypnosis study went into deep trance and were asked to describe seeing a UFO appear in their ordinary environment, going on board, meeting the occupants, being examined, receiving a message, returning to the normal world, and reflecting on the sighting's effect on them.

    “Seven of the eight subjects went into deep trance and were then asked to describe what they saw as a UFO appeared to them in their ordinary environment, then as they went on board, met the occupants, were examined by them, were given a message, returned safely to the normal world, and thought about the way in which the sighting had affected them.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:38259-38602 observation second hand

  119. 119

    Al Lawson described the results of the imaginary abductees hypnosis study as providing "a coherent, intriguing UFO abduction narrative" that was surprisingly similar to classic UFO abduction cases such as those of Betty Hill and Charlie Hickson.

    “Not only did these “imaginary abductees” provide what Dr. Lawson calls “a coherent, intriguing UFO abduction narrative,” but their stories were surprisingly similar to the most classic UFO abduction cases, like those of Betty Hill or Charlie Hickson.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:38657-38899 opinion second hand

  120. 120

    When hypnosis transcripts from the imaginary abductees were compared with transcripts from real UFO cases, all of the imaginary subjects described many details identical to those found in the literature, ranging from obvious details like "saucer-shaped" to rare and obscure well-established details of high strangeness.

    “All of the imaginary subjects described many details which are identical to ones found in the literature. These patterns range from the obvious (“saucer-shaped”) to rare and even obscure though well-established details of high strangeness.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:39036-39263 observation second hand

  121. 121

    The imaginary abductees hypnosis study does not demonstrate that UFO abductions are imaginary or that hypnotic regression of witnesses is always worthless, but shows that many aspects of the abduction experience may originate in the witness's mind.

    “The study does not demonstrate that UFO abductions are imaginary, or that hypnotic regression of witnesses is always worthless. But it does show that many aspects of the experience may originate in the witness’s mind.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:39278-39490 opinion

  122. 122

    With UFO witnesses specifically, the complexity and nature of the matters discussed in a polygraph test may bias the recording.

    “What is most important with UFO witnesses is that (8) the complexity and nature of the matters discussed may bias the recording”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:41105-41223 testimony second hand

  123. 123

    Excessive interrogation of a UFO witness prior to a polygraph test, and involvement in repeated UFO sightings, affect the accuracy of the test results.

    “excessive interrogation on the subject prior to the test and involvement in repeated UFO sightings affect the accuracy of the results”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:41242-41368 testimony second hand

  124. 124

    In no UFO abduction case have investigators taken precautions against the known problems with polygraph testing.

    “In no abduction case have the investigators taken precautions against these problems.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:41378-41454 opinion first hand

  125. 125

    Jacques Vallée considers that the UFO abduction experience and contact experience, though seeming to suggest an extraterrestrial source, can result from deeper, subtler, complex processes of the human mind.

    “The abduction experience and the contact experience, which seem at first to suggest an extraterrestrial source for the UFOs, can result, I think, from deeper, subtler, complex processes of the human mind.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:41464-41663 opinion first hand

  126. 126

    Jacques Vallée considers that the psychological processes underlying UFO abduction and contact experiences can be triggered by suggestion, hypnosis, drugs, and the physical tools of deception.

    “These processes can be triggered by suggestion, hypnosis, drugs, and the physical tools of deception.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:41669-41760 opinion first hand

  127. 127

    Jacques Vallée considers that the deception behind UFO abduction and contact experiences could be the work of a higher form of intelligence or the work of human beings.

    “Such deception could be the work of a higher form of intelligence – or it could be the work of human beings.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:41771-41872 opinion first hand

  128. 128

    Jacques Vallée considers that the link between the images of the UFO world and those of human folklore resides in the psyche.

    “The link between the images of the UFO world and those of human folklore resides in the psyche.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:41881-41969 opinion first hand

  129. 129

    Jacques Vallée considers that the "technology" of UFOs is not designed to carry small beings from one physical planet to another, but is designed to trigger pre-existing imagery already carried in human brains.

    “The “technology” of the UFOs is not designed to carry little men from one physical planet to another. It is designed, much more simply, to trigger the already-existing imagery we are all carrying in our brains.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:41977-42180 opinion first hand

  130. 130

    Jacques Vallée describes the imagery triggered by UFOs as the imagery of Magonia, of intelligent beams of light, and of dialogues with strange creatures.

    “It is the imagery of Magonia, of intelligent beams of light, of dialogues with strange creatures.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:42188-42275 opinion first hand

  131. 131

    Jacques Vallée considers that UFOs, emerging fully armed into our local universe like Athena being born from Zeus's head, do nothing more than provide the physical support for our own dreams.

    “Emerging fully armed into our local universe – like Athena being born from Zeus’s head – the UFOs do nothing more than provide the physical support for our own dreams.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch5:42287-42447 opinion first hand

  132. 132

    In 1975, a French contactee was arrested by police as he was entering the headquarters of the French television network carrying a carbine and fifty shells, after a 'voice from space' had instructed him to kill a newsman who had written several books on UFOs.

    “In 1975, a French contactee was arrested by the police as he was entering the headquarters of the French television network, carrying a carbine and fifty shells: a similar voice from space had instructed him to kill a newsman who had written several books on UFOs.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch6:14865-15124 testimony

  133. 133

    Jacques Vallée told Edward Condon that he believed the problem of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) could be solved scientifically.

    “I told Condon that I believed the problem of UFOs could be solved scientifically.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch6:5552-5618 opinion first hand

  134. 134

    Edward Condon compared the problem of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) to the existence of God, a problem about which he believed science had nothing to say.

    “He replied that he wasn't so sure: "It could be something like the existence of God," he said, "a problem about which science has nothing to say."”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch6:5634-5775 opinion second hand

  135. 135

    Edward Condon and his University of Colorado UFO Project team, chosen for their presumed impartiality, produced the Condon Report, which concluded that no evidence existed for the reality of UFOs.

    “Professor Condon and his team, who had been picked because they were presumably impartial and unprejudiced, went on to write a report stating that no evidence existed for the reality of UFOs.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch6:5913-6099 administrative first hand

  136. 136

    Approval of the Condon Report by the National Academy of Sciences left the field of Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) research open to charlatans and hoaxers.

    “leaving the field of UFO research wide open for charlatans and hoaxers of all kinds”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch6:6187-6265 opinion first hand

  137. 137

    Jacques Vallée has often stated, and still believes, that Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) are real and technological.

    “I have often stated, and I still believe today, that UFOs are real and technological”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch6:7165-7236 opinion first hand

  138. 138

    Jacques Vallée argues that in 1967 Edward Condon and his University of Colorado UFO Project team could have conducted a serious scientific study of UFOs but did not, and that it is now too late for science to resolve the social and political consequences of the spreading belief in space contact.

    “In 1967, Condon and his team could have done a serious scientific study of UFOs, but they didn't. Now it is too late for science.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch6:8082-8203 opinion first hand

  139. 139

    Jacques Vallée argues that the more ludicrous and bizarre UFO-related beliefs appear, the more effective they are as subliminal seduction and psychological control.

    “In fact, the more ludicrous and bizarre they appear, the more effective they are as subliminal seduction and as other forms of psychological control, and subliminal seduction is exactly what we are dealing with here.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch6:8395-8606 opinion first hand

  140. 140

    Jacques Vallée argues that belief in UFO contact and visitation is promoted by certain groups responsible for advertising UFO contacts, circulating faked photographs, interfering with witnesses and researchers, and generating systematic disinformation about the phenomenon.

    “The belief in UFO contact, and the expectation of visitation by beings from space, is promoted by certain groups of people who are responsible for advertising UFO contacts, for circulating faked photographs (often in connection with genuine sightings), for interfering with witnesses and researchers, and for generating systematic "disinformation" about the phenomenon.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch6:8613-8971 opinion first hand

  141. 141

    Jacques Vallée recalled the Rouen UFO-guided car collision incident, in which a UFO allegedly guided a car across a three-lane highway near Rouen, France, into a head-on collision with a speeding ambulance.

    “I recalled a similar case in France, near Rouen, where a UFO allegedly guided a car across a three-lane highway to a head-on collision with a speeding ambulance.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch7:4095-4246 testimony first hand

  142. 142

    Helen (contactee interviewed by Jacques Vallée) told Jacques Vallée that her idea for the motor was triggered by an abduction aboard a UFO.

    “During our interview, she confessed that the motor idea was triggered by an abduction aboard a UFO.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch7:765-860 testimony first hand

  143. 143

    Jacques Vallée met Major Murphy at a gathering of UFO contactees.

    “I met him at a gathering of UFO contactees and suggested a drink when it was over.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch8:11857-11934 observation first hand

  144. 144

    Major Murphy told Jacques Vallée that if the UFO phenomenon is controlled by alien beings, its study belongs in Intelligence (meaning counterespionage) rather than science.

    “"If it is," added the Major, "then the study o f it doesn't belong in science. It belongs in Intelligence." Meaning counterespionage.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch8:12716-12831 opinion first hand

  145. 145

    Major Murphy told Jacques Vallée that if a team on the other side of an intelligence effort knows what it is doing, it can insert so many cutouts that a researcher will have no chance of tracing the way back to the truth by following up UFO sightings and analysing them with computers.

    “"It all depends on how the team on the other side thinks. If they know what they're doing, there will be so many cutouts between you and them that you won't have the slightest chance of tracing your way to the truth. Not by following up sightings and throwing them into a computer."”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch8:13739-14010 opinion first hand

  146. 146

    Major Murphy told Jacques Vallée that the only source of data about the UFO phenomenon is the UFOs themselves.

    “What is the only source of data about the UFO phenomenon? It is the UFOs themselves!”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch8:14089-14162 opinion first hand

  147. 147

    Major Murphy advised Jacques Vallée to work entirely outside organised UFO groups because they are infiltrated by the same official agencies they are trying to influence and propagate rumours.

    “First you should work entirely outside of the organized UFO groups; they are infiltrated by the same official agencies they are trying to influence, and they propagate any rumor anyone wants to have circulated.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch8:14428-14627 opinion first hand

  148. 148

    Jacques Vallée considers UFOs similar to television sets in that both are physical objects that also function as tools of a major cultural change.

    “In some respects I think UFOs are similar to television sets. They are physical objects, the products of a technology, but they are also something else: the tools of a major cultural change.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch8:3488-3671 opinion first hand

  149. 149

    Jacques Vallée believes UFOs are perpetrating a deception by presenting their occupants as messengers from outer space.

    “I think UFOs are perpetrating a deception by presenting their so-called "occupants" as being messengers from outer space, and I suspect there are groups of people on Earth exploiting this deception.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch8:3679-3867 opinion first hand

  150. 150

    Jimmy Carter proclaimed that he had seen unidentified lights in the sky and said he was no longer laughing at those who report flying saucers.

    “Today mm like Jimmy Carter proclaim that they have seen unidentified lights in the sky and are "no longer laughing at those who report Hying saucers."”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch8:5269-5410 testimony second hand

  151. 151

    Jacques Vallée previously warned that unless his scientific colleagues undertook a serious and unbiased investigation of the UFO phenomenon, there would be a proliferation of new sects claiming contact with higher intelligences.

    “Several years ago I warned that unless my scientific colleagues undertook a serious and unbiased investigation of the UFO phenomenon, there would be a proliferation of new sects claiming contact with higher intelligences and special communication with outer space.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch8:6191-6449 opinion first hand

  152. 152

    Jacques Vallée began a systematic analysis of the patterns behind UFO manifestations fifteen years before writing this passage, prompted by the sincerity of new sect members whose fascination with unexplained UFO phenomena he took seriously.

    “It is this fact that prompted me fifteen years ago to begin a systematic analysis of the patterns behind the UFO manifestations.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch8:7523-7636 administrative first hand

  153. 153

    Near Bellaire, Michigan, John Shepherd established a UFO-detecting station in his grandparents' home.

    “Near Bellaire, Michigan, John Shepherd has established this UFO-detecting station in his grandparents' home.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch8:7876-7979 observation

  154. 154

    Jacques Vallée flew to Spain in December 1975 to investigate another aspect of the UFO mystery.

    “Yet I was carrying their image in my mind when I flew to Spain in December 1975 to investigate another aspect of the UFO mystery.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch9:19036-19157 administrative first hand

  155. 155

    Major Murphy urged Jacques Vallée to piece together carefully the available evidence about the modus operandi of the UFO phenomenon.

    “The humble man who likes to be called "Major Murphy" had urged me to piece together carefully the available evidence about the modus operandi of the phenomenon.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch9:208-357 testimony first hand

  156. 156

    Human Individual Metamorphosis (H.I.M.) believers claimed that after the predicted resurrection, the two leaders would be picked up by a UFO and taken back to their level of origin, where there is no death, disease, or decay.

    “i he two individuals in question will be picked up by a UFO and go hack to the level from which they came, a world where, naturally, i here is no death, disease, or decay. Then everyone will know what i lie UFOs are, the believers claim.”

    Messengers of Deception: UFO Contacts and Cults 0101-01-01 ch9:9106-9337 hearsay

  157. 157

    An anonymous correspondent of James L. Tuck described James M. McCampbell as a UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) believer.

    “I am enclosing comments on same by a UFO believer, James M. McCampbell”

    A-83-001-Z-1: Correspondence regarding UFO sightings at Los Alamos, 1948-1951 1970-11-23 char:2068-2128 opinion second hand

  158. 158

    Carl Sagan's personal view is that none of the claims of past extraterrestrial visitation of Earth (historical artefacts and legends, UFO sightings, or patterns in ionospheric echo delay times) has anything even approaching compelling evidence.

    “My personal view is that for none of these claims is there anything even approaching compelling evidence for interstellar visitation.”

    The recognition of extraterrestrial intelligence 1975 char:31064-31186 opinion first hand

  159. 159

    The National Intelligence Organization reported there were various reports of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) on the night of 1985-01-24, including fast-moving objects with lights, contrails, and noise.

    “NIO SAID THERE HAVE BEEN VARIOUS REPORTS OF UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL PHENOMENA THE NIGHT OF JANUARY 24, INCLUDING FAST-MOVING OBJECTS WITH LIGHTS, CONTRAILS, AND NOISE.”

    Papua New Guinea Inquiry Re Overflights 1985-01-28 char:1491-1633 observation second hand

  160. 160

    John Warren, of AT-6, was the guest speaker scheduled to address the Pajarito Astronomers on 1986-05-29 on the topic "Why Should a Scientist be Concerned about UFO's?"

    “Guest speaker will be Dr. John Warren of AT-6, whose topic will be "Why Should a Scientist be Concerned about UFO's?"”

    Pajarito Astronomers Meeting Notice - May 1986 1986-05-20 char:396-516 administrative second hand

  161. 161

    During the 1973 Paul Brown UFO encounter near Athens, Georgia, Paul Brown saw an object landing in front of him on the road.

    “When I realized that this thing was landing in front of me, I come to a screeching stop”

    Paul Brown Recounts His 1973 UFO Encounter With Two Humanoids | 1988 News Report 1988 00:01:08.0-00:01:11.7 observation first hand

  162. 162

    From time to time people ask Paul Brown whether he is the one who saw the UFO.

    “Time to time, people will say, aren't you the one that saw the UFO or the unidentified flying object?”

    Paul Brown Recounts His 1973 UFO Encounter With Two Humanoids | 1988 News Report 1988 00:01:43.9-00:01:51.4 testimony first hand

  163. 163

    People who ask Paul Brown about his UFO sighting do so with a sceptical air.

    “Bruce Erion: With a skeptical error, do they say that? Paul Brown: Yes.”

    Paul Brown Recounts His 1973 UFO Encounter With Two Humanoids | 1988 News Report 1988 00:01:51.6-00:01:53.1 testimony first hand

  164. 164

    J. Allen Hynek believes there is life and intelligence elsewhere in the universe, but regards whether that is what UFOs are as the big open question.

    “My feeling is that there is a life and intelligence elsewhere. However, The big question is, is that what UFOs are?”

    Paul Brown Recounts His 1973 UFO Encounter With Two Humanoids | 1988 News Report 1988 00:02:12.3-00:02:22.8 opinion first hand

  165. 165

    The UFO question has been clouded over the years by natural phenomena and by outright fakes.

    “But sadly, that question has been clouded over the years by natural phenomenon and by outright fakes.”

    Paul Brown Recounts His 1973 UFO Encounter With Two Humanoids | 1988 News Report 1988 00:02:23.5-00:02:29.4 opinion

  166. 166

    Even if the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI) picked up a message from outer space, it would do little to settle the UFO controversy.

    “But even if they were to pick up a message from outer space, it would do little to settle the UFO controversy.”

    Paul Brown Recounts His 1973 UFO Encounter With Two Humanoids | 1988 News Report 1988 00:03:32.7-00:03:37.3 opinion

  167. 167

    Paul Brown used to chuckle to himself when the subject of UFOs came up, but no longer does so after the 1973 Paul Brown UFO encounter near Athens, Georgia.

    “Paul Brown says that he used to chuckle to himself as well when the subject of UFOs came up. Well, he laughs no more.”

    Paul Brown Recounts His 1973 UFO Encounter With Two Humanoids | 1988 News Report 1988 00:04:30.4-00:04:36.1 testimony second hand

  168. 168

    The Tajik Air crew first encountered the object as a bright light of enormous intensity, approaching them from over the horizon to the east at a great rate of speed and at a much higher altitude than their own aircraft.

    “THEY FIRST ENCOUNTERED THE OBJECT AS A BRIGHT LIGHT OF ENORMOUS INTENSITY, APPROACHING THEM FROM OVER THE HORIZON TO THE EAST AT A GREAT RATE OF SPEED AND AT A MUCH HIGHER ALTITUDE THAN THEIR OWN”

    Tajik Air Pilots Report Unidentified Flying Object 1994-01-31 char:1403-1595 observation first hand

  169. 169

    The Tajik Air crew watched the object for approximately forty minutes as it manoeuvred in circles, corkscrews, and made 90-degree turns at rapid rates of speed and under very high g-forces.

    “THEY WATCHED THE OBJECT FOR SOME FORTY MINUTES AS IT MANEUVERED IN CIRCLES, CORKSCREWS AND MADE 90-DEGREE TURNS AT RAPID RATES OF SPEED AND UNDER VERY HIGH G'S”

    Tajik Air Pilots Report Unidentified Flying Object 1994-01-31 char:1600-1758 observation first hand

  170. 170

    After some time, the object observed during the 1994-01-27 Tajik Air Boeing 747SP UFO sighting over Kazakhstan adopted a horizontal high-speed course and disappeared over the horizon.

    “AFTER SOME TIME, THE OBJECT ADOPTED A HORIZONTAL HIGH-SPEED COURSE AND DISAPPEARED OVER THE HORIZON”

    Tajik Air Pilots Report Unidentified Flying Object 1994-01-31 char:1937-2029 observation first hand

  171. 171

    Because it was dark when the object was observed during the 1994-01-27 Tajik Air Boeing 747SP UFO sighting over Kazakhstan, the crew were unable to discern the object's shape.

    “AS IT WAS DARK WHEN THE OBJECT WAS OBSERVED, THE CREW WERE UNABLE TO DISCERN ITS SHAPE”

    Tajik Air Pilots Report Unidentified Flying Object 1994-01-31 char:2042-2123 observation first hand

  172. 172

    The Tajik Air crew described the light emitted by the object during the 1994-01-27 sighting as having a bow wave, resembling a high-speed photo of a bullet in flight, in which a very small object gives off a much larger trailing wave of heat and light.

    “THEY DESCRIBED THE LIGHT IT EMITTED AS HAVING A "BOW WAVE" AND AS RESEMBLING A HIGH-SPEED PHOTO OF A BULLET IN FLIGHT, IN WHICH A VERY SMALL OBJECT GIVES OFF A MUCH LARGER TRAILING WAVE OF HEAT/LIGHT”

    Tajik Air Pilots Report Unidentified Flying Object 1994-01-31 char:2130-2324 observation first hand

  173. 173

    The paths of the contrails observed after the 1994-01-27 sighting reflected the manoeuvres of the object, including circles and corkscrews.

    “THE PATHS OF THE CONTRAILS REFLECTED THE MANEUVERS OF THE OBJECT, I.E., CIRCLES, CORKSCREWS, ETC.”

    Tajik Air Pilots Report Unidentified Flying Object 1994-01-31 char:2791-2884 observation first hand

  174. 174

    On the basis of the object's speed and manoeuvrability during the 1994-01-27 Tajik Air Boeing 747SP UFO sighting over Kazakhstan, Ed Rhodes considers the object to have been extraterrestrial and under intelligent control.

    “ON THE BASIS OF ITS SPEED AND MANEUVERABILITY, RHODES EXPRESSED THE OPINION, WHICH HIS CREW SEEMED TO SUPPORT, THAT THE OBJECT WAS EXTRATERRESTRIAL AND UNDER INTELLIGENT CONTROL”

    Tajik Air Pilots Report Unidentified Flying Object 1994-01-31 char:3262-3432 opinion first hand

  175. 175

    Ed Rhodes's crew appeared to support his opinion that the object encountered on 1994-01-27 was extraterrestrial and under intelligent control.

    “WHICH HIS CREW SEEMED TO SUPPORT”

    Tajik Air Pilots Report Unidentified Flying Object 1994-01-31 char:3339-3364 opinion

  176. 176

    On 1994-01-29, Ed Rhodes and his two American pilot colleagues reported that on 1994-01-27 they had encountered a UFO while flying at approximately 12,500 metres in their Boeing 747SP.

    “AMCIT ED RHODES, AND HIS TWO AMERICAN PILOT COLLEAGUES REPORTED JANUARY 29 THAT, ON JANUARY 27, THEY HAD ENCOUNTERED A UFO WHILE FLYING AT 41,000 FEET IN THEIR BOEING 747SP”

    Tajik Air Pilots Report Unidentified Flying Object 1994-01-31 char:988-1148 testimony first hand

  177. 177

    Michael Hesemann considers the Hrushiv apparition, like the Fatima apparitions, to present a UFO-like image of the Virgin Mary's "vehicle."

    “Again, as in the Fatima visions, we have a UFO-like image of the Virgin’s “vehicle.””

    The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch19:18004-18079 opinion first hand

  178. 178

    Many Marian apparitions have included bright, multicoloured lights and whirling, UFO-like disks.

    “Many of these Marian appearances included bright, multicolored lights and whirling, UFO-like disks.”

    The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch21:750-843 observation

  179. 179

    Michael Hesemann has pointed out similarities between Marian visions and UFO sightings.

    “I have pointed out some similarities between Marian visions and UFO sightings.”

    The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch22:15504-15572 opinion first hand

  180. 180

    Michael Hesemann does not deny that there are obvious parallels between phenomena observed during Marian apparitions and Unidentified Flying Objects, but tries to avoid interpretation, preferring to tell the history of the Fatima events in their own light.

    “The parallels between some of the phenomena observed during Marian apparitions and UFOs are obvious and the author does not deny that. Still, he has tried to avoid any interpretation, preferring to tell the history of the Fatima events in their own light.”

    The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch4:14737-14986 opinion first hand

  181. 181

    Michael Hesemann is considered one of Europe's leading experts on the UFO phenomenon.

    “Hesemann, although considered one of Europe’s leading experts on the UFO phenomenon, rather points to the dangers of generalization.”

    The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch4:15325-15442 administrative

  182. 182

    Unidentified Flying Object occupants, like the fairy folk before them, have at best a localised and tangential effect on the social order, unlike Marian apparitions.

    “UFO occupants, like the fairy folk before them, have, at best, a localized and tangential effect on the social order.”

    The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch4:5638-5749 opinion first hand

  183. 183

    Michael Hesemann admits he first entertained the thought that an extraterrestrial intelligence could be responsible for the Fatima apparitions.

    “I have to admit that I first entertained the thought that it could be an extraterrestrial intelligence.”

    The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch5:3923-4013 opinion first hand

  184. 184

    Michael Hesemann considers that UFO phenomena and Marian apparitions are ways in which another world breaks through the barriers into everyday life.

    “This "other" world breaks through the barriers into our everyday lives in ways as diverse as UFO phenomena and Marian apparitions.”

    The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch7:10070-10188 opinion first hand

  185. 185

    Michael Hesemann considers the warnings given by Marian apparitions to be similar to warnings received from UFO visitors.

    “The warnings given to us by the Marian apparitions are similar to the warnings received from UFO visitors.”

    The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch7:5997-6094 opinion first hand

  186. 186

    Corrado Balducci believes UFOs are real, that contacts happen, and that this belief does not contradict Catholic doctrine.

    “In this interview he states that he believes UFOs are real, that contacts happen, and that this belief does not contradict Catholic doctrine.”

    The Fatima Secret 2000-11-28 ch7:8183-8315 opinion second hand

  187. 187

    Thomas Wilson thought "UFOs" was being used as a cover story for a sensitive foreign hardware collection and reverse-engineering operation.

    “actually came to meeting expecting to find a sensitive foreign collection and reverse engineering operation - thought "UFOs" used as a cover for that”

    EWD Notes - Eric Davis Meeting with Adm. Wilson 2002-10-16 char:21126-21271 opinion first hand

  188. 188

    Jacques Gansler told Thomas Wilson that UFOs are real.

    “"UFOs are real, so-called 'alien abductions' not real" - Gansler said this”

    EWD Notes - Eric Davis Meeting with Adm. Wilson 2002-10-16 char:23383-23452 hearsay second hand

  189. 189

    Eric W. Davis intended to keep the information from his meetings with Thomas Wilson for private, personal research to track the UFO story and assess the signal-to-noise ratio in media and government sources.

    “Keep for private/personal research - data collection to track down the story and ascertain signal/noise in media and from gov't sources.”

    EWD Notes - Eric Davis Meeting with Adm. Wilson 2002-10-16 char:23935-24063 opinion first hand

  190. 190

    Will Miller offered to provide the name and current location of a retired senior flag-rank officer he believed was directly involved in government interaction with a significant UFO event on the east coast of the United States, with direct knowledge of US government involvement.

    “The name and current location of a retired senior (Flag-rank) officer who I believe was directly involved in government interaction with a significant UFO event on the east coast of the U.S., and I believe has, by virtue of his former leadership position, high military rank, and control of significant military forces, direct knowledge of USG involvement in this business.”

    EWD Notes - Eric Davis Meeting with Adm. Wilson 2002-10-16 char:5988-6352 opinion second hand

  191. 191

    Mark J. Carlotto wonders whether the flashes and streaks in the STS-80 mission video are not UFOs in the usual sense, nor surface-to-air missiles, but something completely different.

    “one has to wonder if these flashes and streaks are not UFOs (in the usual sense), not surface-to-air missiles, but something completely different.”

    Anomalous Phenomena in Space Shuttle Mission STS-80 Video 2005 char:28732-28868 opinion first hand

  192. 192

    During his time at the Groom Lake Test Facility, Craig McPherson never saw a UFO or anything resembling a UFO.

    “During this time period, I NEVER saw a UFO or anything resembling a UFO at the Groom Lake Test Facility.”

    Interview with Dr Craig McPherson, scientist and former employee of Area 51 2007-06-20 char:4828-4923 observation first hand

  193. 193

    Beginning in April 1986, Whitley Strieber undertook a great deal of research, reading thousands of pages of material about the UFO phenomenon and its scientific and cultural implications.

    “And with my strength there came, beginning in April 1986, a great deal of research. I read thousands of pages of material about the whole phenomenon and all its scientific and cultural implications.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:13733-13918 testimony first hand

  194. 194

    Whitley Strieber noted that the fact of people reporting multiple-visitor experiences over the course of their lives has been published very minimally, even in the UFO literature.

    “I also noticed that the fact that people report multiple-visitor experiences over the course of their lives had been published very minimally, even in the UFO literature.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch11:25266-25425 observation first hand

  195. 195

    Whitley Strieber, having been raised in the 1950s, notes that a child of that era would have known about flying saucers because they were prominent news then, unlike in the 1980s.

    “A child like I was, brought up in the fifties, would have known about flying saucers. They were big news in those days. But they aren't now, so it's not surprising that the little girl was uninformed, but it is important.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:116143-116355 opinion first hand

  196. 196

    Whitley Strieber considers the uninformed, innocent testimony of the guest child powerful evidence of the reality of the UFO phenomenon precisely because she had no prior knowledge of flying saucers.

    “Precisely be cause it is so uninformed, it is powerful evidence of the reality of the phenomenon.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:116539-116625 opinion first hand

  197. 197

    Whitley Strieber and the same childhood friend saw a huge object cross the sky one summer night.

    “He and I also saw a huge object cross the sky one summer night, an event that I have always remembered as particularly strange.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:42035-42154 observation first hand

  198. 198

    Whitley Strieber recalled that immediately after the unidentified object passed overhead, an old black car showing no lights went racing down Elizabeth Road in the same direction the object had gone.

    “Immediately after the object passed overhead an old black car showing no lights went racing down Elizabeth Road in the same direction that the object had gone.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:42617-42771 observation first hand

  199. 199

    In September 1980, during the September 1980 East Seventy-fifth Street multiple-being visitation and seltzer explosion, Whitley Strieber saw a strange light streak down the night sky faster than an airplane, leaving him deeply and inexplicably moved with an obscure foreboding.

    “This episode began when I saw a strange light streak down the night sky. It moved faster than an airplane and left me with the feeling that it had something to do with me. I was deeply and inexplicably moved, and left with an obscure foreboding.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:58359-58593 observation first hand

  200. 200

    When Whitley Strieber asked a childhood friend what his strangest memory was, the friend's answer, unprompted by any exposure to Strieber's UFO material, involved Strieber.

    “when I recently asked a friend of those days what was the strangest experience he could remember, I was surprised to find that his answer involved me. At the time I asked him the question, he had not in any way been exposed to this material.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:6339-6571 testimony first hand

  201. 201

    Whitley Strieber has subsequently discovered that there is a mythology of flying saucer technology that revolves around the concept of counterrotating magnets.

    “I have subsequently discovered that there is a whole mythology of flying saucer technology, and a lot of it revolves around the concept of counterrotating magnets.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch12:7861-8016 testimony first hand

  202. 202

    Whitley Strieber notes that orange and green are colours associated with lights on the flying disk that has been seen in the Strieber family's area.

    “(Orange and green are colors associated with lights on the flying disk that has been seen in our area.)”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch13:70309-70405 observation first hand

  203. 203

    The combination of the excellent witness, the strange physical trace, and the seemingly enigmatic nature of the observation caused Aime Michel to conclude that the UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) mystery as a whole was unsolvable.

    “The combination of the excellent witness, the strange physical trace, and the seemingly enigmatic nature of the observation caused Mr. Michel to decide that the UFO mystery as a whole was unsolvable.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:107117-107305 opinion second hand

  204. 204

    Whitley Strieber began his search into the UFO phenomenon by assuming he was dealing either with a mental aberration or a visit from another planet.

    “I began this search by assuming that I was dealing either with a mental aberration or a visit "from another planet."”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:1209-1317 opinion first hand

  205. 205

    The author of the Skeptical Inquirer debunking article takes the position that all unidentified flying object sightings can be explained.

    “its author, it turns out, takes the unusual position that all unidentified-flying-object sightings can be explained”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:20506-20612 opinion second hand

  206. 206

    In the 1970s, Senator Barry Goldwater was denied access to secret documents concerning apparent research into UFOs being conducted at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

    “In the 1970s Senator Barry Goldwater was denied access to secret documents concerning apparent research into UFOs being conducted at Wright Patterson Air Force Base.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:20971-21131 testimony

  207. 207

    The National Security Agency (NSA) went to the United States Supreme Court to protect some of its documents about unidentified flying disks.

    “The National Security agency has gone all the way to the Supreme Court to protect some of its documents about the disks.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:21137-21251 testimony

  208. 208

    The Condon Report ended the public interest of the United States government in the subject of unidentified flying objects.

    “The Condon Report ended the public interest of the United States government in the whole subject of unknown flying objects.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:23927-24042 opinion first hand

  209. 209

    Cornell University professor Carl Sagan has stated many times that there is no evidence that unidentified aerial objects and visitors exist.

    “Cornell University professor Dr. Carl Sagan has stated many times that there is no evidence that unidentified aerial objects-and presumably visitors exist.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:25715-25864 opinion second hand

  210. 210

    Whitley Strieber believes there is a substantial body of carefully authenticated photographic evidence of unidentified flying devices that is very hard to refute except on an emotional level.

    “there is a substantial body of carefully authenticated photographic evidence of the devices themselves that is very hard to refute in any way except on an emotional level.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:26081-26246 opinion first hand

  211. 211

    Robert L. Hall stated that the strength of resistance to the evidence on UFOs suggests there is clearly a phenomenon of surpassing importance.

    “The very strength of our resistance to the evidence on UFOs suggests to me that there is clearly a phenomenon of surpassing importance here.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:31300-31435 opinion second hand

  212. 212

    Whitley Strieber talked to scientists who think the UFO phenomenon is nonsense and scientists who are not so sure.

    “I have talked to scientists who think that it's all nonsense and to scientists who are not so sure.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:7355-7449 testimony first hand

  213. 213

    Tom, a participant in the April 13, 1986 colloquy at Budd Hopkins' home, is a college teacher who conducts UFO research but has not himself had an abduction experience.

    “Tom (a college teacher who does UFO research but has not had an experience)”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch14:76164-76228 administrative

  214. 214

    Whitley Strieber notes that more responsible scientists are legitimately concerned that serious pursuit of an answer to the enigma of unidentified aerial objects and possible visitors may lead science into study of a false unknown.

    “Other, more responsible scientists are very legitimately concerned that serious pursuit of an answer to the enigma of unidentified aerial objects and possible visitors may lead science into study of a false unknown.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:3063-3270 opinion first hand

  215. 215

    Whitley Strieber admits that he himself scoffed at people reporting visitor encounters in the past, at least vicariously, and was formerly a skeptic regarding UFOs.

    “I am ashamed to say that I have done it myself, in the past, at least vicariously. As far as "UFOs" went, I was with the skeptics.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:3898-4020 testimony first hand

  216. 216

    Before his experiences, Whitley Strieber had been indifferent to the issue of unidentified flying objects (UFO) and extraterrestrials, viewing them as a false unknown easily explainable as misperceptions or hallucinations.

    “I had been indifferent to the whole issue of unidentified flying objects and extraterrestrials; I had viewed them as a false unknown, easily explainable as misperceptions or hallucinations.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch8:827-1001 opinion first hand

  217. 217

    A large unidentified object was reportedly seen in the vicinity of the Striebers' cabin around the same time as the December 26, 1985 abduction experience, but the report of it was not published until about a week later and attributed the sighting to a practical joke.

    “There was apparently a large unknown object seen in the immediate vicinity at approximately this time of month, but a report of it would not be published for another week... The report attributed the sightings to a practical joke.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:3460-3701 hearsay

  218. 218

    Whitley Strieber and Anne Strieber researched UFO sightings in their area and discovered it had been a hotbed of sightings for nearly half a century.

    “Anne and I did more research into UFO sightings in our area. We discovered that it is a hotbed of sightings, and has been for nearly half a century.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:37409-37549 observation first hand

  219. 219

    The eighteen-year-old son of one of Whitley Strieber's neighbours saw something hovering near a road less than eight kilometres from Whitley Strieber's cabin at approximately nine-thirty at night in late December 1985, describing it as huge and covered with lights and hovering for more than fifteen minutes.

    “the eighteen-year-old son of one of our neighbors saw something hovering near a road not five miles from our cabin ac approximately nine-thirty on a night in late December. He described it to me as "huge and covered with lights,"... it hovered for a substantial period, more than fifteen minutes, it could not have been a flight of planes.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:37574-37870 testimony second hand

  220. 220

    When Whitley Strieber later researched the report attributing a nearby large object sighting to a practical joke, he discovered the report was inaccurate.

    “Only much later, when I researched it myself, did I discover how inaccurate that report was.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:3790-3878 testimony first hand

  221. 221

    In April 1986, Anne Strieber learned from a friend, an artist who was the wife of a well-known composer, that she had seen a flying saucer in 1953 at age nine, near where the Striebers' log cabin now stands.

    “Just by talking with friends in April my wife uncovered a personal experience of an early area sighting, one that took place in the late fifties... She reported that she had seen a flying saucer in 1953, when she was nine.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:38408-38630 testimony third hand

  222. 222

    Whitley Strieber states he had never seen an unidentified flying object and had thought the subject had been fully explained by science.

    “I have never seen an unidentified flying object. I thought that the whole subject had been explained by science.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:3884-3988 testimony first hand

  223. 223

    The Striebers' friend described the object she saw in 1953 as similar to the one that appeared in the same area in December 1985: huge, full of lights, hovering, and moving off slowly.

    “She proceeded to describe an object similar to the one that had appeared in the same immediate area in December 1985. Like so many reports through the years, she described it as huge, full of lights, and hovering. It moved off slowly”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:39221-39448 testimony third hand

  224. 224

    Further research by Whitley Strieber revealed that the upstate New York area comprising Westchester, Orange, Putnam, Rockland, and Ulster counties had an extraordinary series of sightings of boomerang- or triangular-shaped objects of enormous size.

    “Further research revealed to us that our area of upstate New York, comprising roughly Westchester, Orange, Putnam, Rockland, and Ulster counties, had an absolutely extraordinary series of sightings of boomerang- or triangular-shaped objects of enormous”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:39728-39972 observation first hand

  225. 225

    Thousands of people saw a large unidentified object, described as 'the size of an aircraft carrier,' beginning in 1983, witnessed by meteorologists, Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) employees, police officers, sheriffs, state troopers, and in one case an entire town government.

    “size, starting in 1983. Thousands of people saw these objects... Town police officers, sheriffs, state troopers, even in one case an entire town government en masse viewed the things, which have been described as being "the size of an aircraft carrier."”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:39981-40308 observation

  226. 226

    Whitley Strieber had promised Budd Hopkins that he would not read anything about unidentified flying objects (UFOs).

    “I had promised Hopkins that I wouldn't read anything about unidentified flying objects.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:64731-64810 testimony first hand

  227. 227

    Even after talking to Budd Hopkins, Whitley Strieber was not willing to ascribe his experiences to the unidentified flying object (UFO) phenomenon and had no idea what had happened that night.

    “Even after talking to Hopkins, I was by no means willing to ascribe my experiences to the UFO phenomenon. I wanted to be quite clear: I had no idea what had gone on that night.”

    Communion 2013-06-16 ch9:65425-65595 opinion first hand

  228. 228

    Late in April 1966, the governor of Florida and several newsmen saw an unknown flying object from the governor's private plane.

    “Late that month, the governor of Florida and several newsmen saw an unknown flying object from the governor’s private plane.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:10370-10488 testimony

  229. 229

    On a televised documentary, astronomer Donald Menzel poured benzine over a tankful of acetone to demonstrate optical properties in an attempt to convince the audience that UFOs were nothing but mirages.

    “it showed astronomer Donald Menzel pouring some benzine over a tankful of acetone to demonstrate optical properties that were common knowledge since the eighteenth century. He was trying to convince the audience that UFO’s were nothing but mirages.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:10809-11049 observation

  230. 230

    The 1966 televised documentary included an interview with a military officer who stated that no UFOs were ever detected on radar screens.

    “The documentary also contained an interview with a military officer who stated that no UFOs were ever detected on radar screens”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:11892-12012 opinion second hand

  231. 231

    The 1966 televised documentary included an interview with an astronomer who declared that no UFOs were ever seen or photographed by satellite tracking stations.

    “an interview of an astronomer who declared that no UFOs were ever seen or photographed by the satellite tracking stations.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:12025-12138 opinion second hand

  232. 232

    Jacques Vallee considers both the radar and satellite-tracking statements in the 1966 televised documentary misleading, because radar operators classify UFOs as 'uncorrelated targets' (UCTs) rather than reporting them as UFOs.

    “Both statements were, in my opinion, misleading. It is true that radars never “see” UFOs, but that is only due to the fact that the radar operators call them something else! In their jargon they speak of UCTs, for “uncorrelated targets”!”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:12148-12376 opinion first hand

  233. 233

    A witness who had investigated a UFO sighting in 1953 wrote a letter thirteen years later stating he had been told in 1953 not to reveal any facts about the case and had rigidly maintained his secrecy since.

    “I was told in 1953 to not reveal any facts about this case and have rigidly maintained my secrecy through the years.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:12965-13075 testimony second hand

  234. 234

    Jacques Vallee believes that scientific attitudes denying the existence of the UFO mystery have contributed to the long-term loss of popular support and respect for science.

    “In my opinion, such attitudes have contributed to the long-term loss of popular support and popular respect for science.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:14609-14721 opinion first hand

  235. 235

    Captain Orrego of the Chilean Navy allegedly photographed UFOs in formational flight near Antarctica in 1948.

    “regarding the photographs showing UFOs in formational flight, which you mention were taken by Captain Orrego of the Chilean Navy near Antarctica in 1948.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:148-296 hearsay second hand

  236. 236

    A survey of technically trained witnesses who had seen a UFO found that only one in twelve had bothered to call the Air Force.

    “In a recent survey of technically trained witnesses who had seen an unidentified flying object, it was found that the proportion of those who had bothered to call the Air Force was only one in twelve!”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:1523-1716 measurement second hand

  237. 237

    Jacques Vallee believes the Air Force, late in 1966, was simply fed up with the UFO problem, rather than engaging in a coverup.

    “My own theory of the Condon fiasco is not a coverup scenario. I believe that the Air Force late in 1966 was simply fed up.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:15550-15669 opinion first hand

  238. 238

    In one European country, a UFO made a near landing on the private estate of the Chief of State, described in detail by members of the official's entourage and investigated by secret service experts rather than local police or scientists.

    “In one European country, *a near landing had taken place on the Chief of State’s private estate!* The craft had been described in detail by members of the official’s entourage... the investigation had been conducted at the very top level by secret service experts.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:17326-17648 testimony second hand

  239. 239

    According to a secret service report, the chauffeur of a high political authority in a European country saw an object try to land on the road in front of his car, causing violent vertical vibrations in the vehicle as it passed just a few metres overhead, before reversing course, regaining position above trees, tilting ninety degrees, and departing rapidly to the west.

    “sees what he believes to be an aircraft trying to land on the road, directly in front of him. He stops the car immediately. The object passes just a few meters above the stopped car and, while doing this, causes violent vertical vibrations in the vehicle. A few seconds later, the object reverses its course and passes again, now in the opposite direction, with the same effects on the car. Then, having regained its position above some trees where it had initially appeared, it makes a fast change of altitude, a ninety-degree tilting with respect to the horizontal, and darts away to the west.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:17819-18409 testimony third hand

  240. 240

    A secret service report described the object involved in the European Chief of State estate sighting as an upside-down plate with a central turret and portholes, approximately twenty metres in dimension.

    “We found that the object, an upside-down plate with a central turret and portholes, could be of the dimensions reported by the witness, namely twenty meters.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:18469-18619 measurement second hand

  241. 241

    A rumour spread in Europe during the summer of 1966 claimed that the Air Force was completely frustrated with the UFO problem and was looking for a university willing to write a negative report after only a cursory examination of the facts.

    “The rumor that spread in Europe through “informal channels” during the summer of 1966 was a difficult one to verify... According to that rumor, the Air Force was completely frustrated with the UFO problem and was looking for an excuse to get rid of it. The only problem was to find a university that was willing to write a negative report after a cursory examination of the facts.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:18855-19316 hearsay second hand

  242. 242

    The Russians made moves toward creating a UFO investigation committee but awaited developments in the United States before funding it and giving it official approval.

    “The Russians made some moves toward the creation of a committee but cleverly awaited the developments in the U.S. before funding it and giving it an official stamp of approval.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:19491-19658 administrative

  243. 243

    Jacques Vallee defines the 'first coverup' as the efforts made by men in positions of authority to discourage the reporting of a UFO incident, ranging from a local deputy sheriff's laughter to intimidation of pilots by their commanding officer.

    “I apply the expression "first coverup" to the efforts that are made by men in a position of authority to discourage the reporting of a UFO incident. This can range from the laughter of a local deputy sheriff to intimidation of pilots by their commanding officer.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:2599-2853 opinion first hand

  244. 244

    In 1964, Jacques Vallee received an indication that official government statements about UFOs were biased and deliberately inaccurate.

    “An indication that official statements about UFOs were biased and deliberately inaccurate came to my attention in 1964.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:2985-3099 testimony first hand

  245. 245

    Robert Galley stated that one must regard UFO phenomena with an attitude of a completely open mind, noting that historic breakthroughs occurred because someone attempted to explain the unexplainable, and that among the aerial phenomena labelled UFOs there are undeniably facts that are unexplained or badly explained.

    “I am deeply convinced that we must regard these phenomena with an attitude of completely open mind... it is undeniable that there are facts that are unexplained or badly explained.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:31124-31218 opinion second hand

  246. 246

    In 1954, the French Defense Ministry created a special section for the gathering and study of witness accounts of unidentified flying objects.

    “In 1954 the Defense Ministry created a special section for the gathering and study of witness accounts regarding these unidentified flying objects.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:31514-31653 administrative second hand

  247. 247

    Late in 1964, friends of Jacques Vallee in Paris sent him data indicating that someone was trying to spread UFO-related rumours through the French news media, a practice referred to in French as 'intoxication'.

    “Late in 1964, several friends in Paris sent me interesting data. It seems that somebody there was trying to spread UFO-related stories through the French news media (the French word for such spreading of rumors is "intoxication").”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:3507-3722 testimony second hand

  248. 248

    A former member of the Intelligence Service, regarded as a reliable source, claimed that the British military was carefully monitoring the UFO situation and pooling its information with the Russians.

    “A former member of the Intelligence Service, for instance, who was regarded as a "reliable source," made statements to the effect that the British military was carefully monitoring the UFO situation and was pooling its information with the Russians!”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:3738-3978 hearsay second hand

  249. 249

    An American source claimed that federal law enforcement agencies had compiled exhaustive studies of United States UFO cases.

    “Another story that circulated among Paris newsmen came from an American who claimed that federal law enforcement agencies had compiled exhaustive studies of the U.S. cases, a rumor that appears at least partially true, because some landing cases have had elements that brought the event within the jurisdiction of these agencies.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:4153-4473 hearsay second hand

  250. 250

    In August 1965, Colonel Spaulding made inquiries among top scientists associated with his office at the Air Force about whether to submit the UFO files to the Academy of Sciences or a similarly respected body to reassure the public.

    “In August, 1965, Colonel Spaulding made inquiries among top scientists associated with his office at the Air Force. He asked them specifically what they thought of submitting the UFO files to the Academy of Sciences or to some such highly respected body, in an effort to reassure the public.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:5078-5362 testimony

  251. 251

    Early in November 1965, the Scientific Advisory Board of the Air Force met in Dallas and discussed the UFO question, during which the idea of an 'independent' study was first considered.

    “Early in November, 1965, the Scientific Advisory Board of the Air Force met in Dallas and discussed the UFO question. The idea of an "independent" study was first considered at that meeting.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:5371-5553 administrative

  252. 252

    Physicist Dr. Brien O'Brien headed a special study group that recommended the Air Force spend 250,000 US dollars a year to obtain 'high-grade data' on UFOs.

    “A physicist, Dr. Brien O’Brien, headed a special study group that came back with the recommendation that the Air Force spend $250,000 a year to obtain "high-grade data."”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:5609-5772 administrative

  253. 253

    Jacques Vallee considers the confusion in UFO reporting and disclosure a product of bureaucratic disorganisation rather than a secret military policy or a sinister 'Silence Group'.

    “The very fact that a new study was recommended seems to show that any suppression of information or any leaking of wild rumors was not the result of a secret military policy on the UFO subject or the work of a sinister "Silence Group" but more likely a product of the confusion that was evident at all levels of the bureaucracy.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:5779-6095 opinion first hand

  254. 254

    Institutional Act No. 5, a Brazilian Government Regulation on state security, forbade television, radio, newspapers and other news media from divulging UFO reports without prior censorship by the Brazilian Air Force.

    “It is forbidden for T.V., radio, newspapers, and other news media to divulge UFO reports without the prior censorship of the Brazilian Air Force.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:610-749 administrative second hand

  255. 255

    In 1964, Jacques Vallee established that UFO landings tended to occur in desolate places, a fact first apparent in the computer analysis of French cases.

    “In 1964 I had established that landings tended to occur in desolate places, a fact that was first apparent in the computer analysis of French cases.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:6990-7132 observation first hand

  256. 256

    Jacques Vallee and J. Allen Hynek later verified, using Air Force data, that UFO landings tended to occur in desolate places.

    “Allen Hynek and I later verified it, using Air Force data.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:7139-7192 observation first hand

  257. 257

    In 1965, there was a series of reports by Australian farmers describing craft that left circular traces in the vegetation covering swamps in Australia.

    “In 1965 there had been a series of reports by Australian farmers describing craft that left circular traces in the vegetation covering the swamps there.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:7293-7439 hearsay

  258. 258

    In 1971, after an unusual UFO sighting, several puzzling objects fell from the sky and were picked up by a Texan witness who showed them to his friends.

    “In 1971, after an unusual UFO sighting, several puzzling objects fell from the sky. These mysterious fragments were picked up by a Texan who showed them to his friends.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch10:851-1011 testimony

  259. 259

    In 1972, Jacques Vallee began his own investigation into the phenomenon of automatic writing and observed several lengthy exchanges between one of his subjects and an entity calling itself '7171' (entity contacted via automatic writing), who claimed to be connected with UFOs.

    “In 1972 I began my own investigation into the phenomenon of automatic writing and I had the occasion to observe several lengthy exchanges between one of my subjects and an entity calling itself “7171,” who claimed to be connected with UFOs.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch11:16597-16832 testimony first hand

  260. 260

    The subject in Jacques Vallee's automatic writing investigation had for several years occasionally felt the urge to write what at first seemed meaningless messages, which became more focused and centred on the UFO phenomenon when questions were asked of the entity allegedly producing the writing.

    “For several years, this person had occasionally felt the urge to write what at first seemed to be meaningless messages. When questions were asked of the “entity” allegedly producing the writing, the messages became more focused, and soon centered on the UFO phenomenon.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch11:17156-17414 testimony second hand

  261. 261

    In the entity 7171 automatic writing exchange, the medium stated that UFOs are a symbol of nothing in the sense meant by the questioner, and that they have a validity independent of symbolism.

    “Vallee: What are UFOs a symbol of? Medium: THEY ARE A SYMBOL OF NOTHING IN THE SENSE THAT YOU MEAN. THEY HAVE A VALIDITY INDEPENDENT OF SYMBOLISM.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch11:18258-18392 hearsay first hand

  262. 262

    In the entity 7171 automatic writing exchange, the medium stated that men like us exist in UFOs because, for very deep reasons, the form of man is a universal constant.

    “Vallee: Why are there men like us in UFOs? Medium: BECAUSE, FOR VERY DEEP REASONS, THE FORM OF MAN IS A UNIVERSAL CONSTANT.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch11:18417-18529 hearsay first hand

  263. 263

    Jacques Vallee finds that the messages from SPECTRA do not explain UFOs and fail to give a consistent interpretation of the characteristics of sightings over the preceding twenty-five years.

    “We find that the messages from SPECTRA *do not explain UFOs.* They fail to give a consistent interpretation of the characteristics of the sightings in the last twenty-five years”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch11:5607-5779 opinion first hand

  264. 264

    Jacques Vallee considers that one cannot understand the UFO phenomenon without taking into consideration all of its possible symbolic ramifications, however remote from technological reality.

    “This is another reminder that one cannot understand the UFO phenomenon without taking into consideration all of its possible symbolic ramifications, no matter how seemingly remote from our technological reality.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch12:32094-32297 opinion first hand

  265. 265

    Jacques Vallee considers it a key to the confrontation with UFOs that if certain areas of the human brain can be remotely stimulated, broadcasts could saturate large territories with a flood of symbols, and that such a device disguised under a preposterous or absurd appearance could go undetected for a long time as a major tool of social change.

    “If certain areas of the human brain can be remotely stimulated, then it is not impossible to think of broadcasts literally saturating large territories with a flood of symbols. Such a device could be a major tool of social change. If disguised under a preposterous or "absurd" appearance, its effects would be undetected for a long time. I believe this could be a key to the confrontation with UFOs.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch13:29512-29906 opinion first hand

  266. 266

    Jacques Vallee considers the mechanism of UFO apparitions a possible invariant across all cultures, and questions whether it is a psychic technology whose applications know few limitations in space and time.

    “Is the mechanism of UFO apparitions, then, an invariant in all cultures? Are we faced here with something more than a projection of Jung's archetypal images, a psychic technology whose applications know few if any limitations in space and in time? I see no better hypothesis at this point of our knowledge of UFO phenomena.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch14:26311-26624 opinion first hand

  267. 267

    Jacques Vallee considers that the space-visitors hypothesis fails to adequately explain ancient UFO-related symbolism.

    “Certainly the space visitors hypothesis fails to explain adequately the ancient symbolism.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch14:26635-26715 opinion first hand

  268. 268

    Jacques Vallee argues that UFO phenomena show a pattern of manifestations that open gates to a spiritual level, point toward a different consciousness, and produce irrational, absurd events.

    “Instead, we have a pattern of manifestations, opening the gates to a spiritual level, pointing a way to a different consciousness, and producing irrational, absurd events in their wake.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch14:26933-27113 opinion first hand

  269. 269

    Jacques Vallee considers that Phoenician amulets, close encounters with occupants in modern times, ancient beams from heaven, and focused light from UFOs together suggest a technology capable of both physical manifestation and psychic effects that strikes deep at the collective consciousness.

    “The Phoenician amulets, the close encounters with "occupants" in our time, the ancient beam from heaven, and the focused light from UFOs seem to imply a technology capable of both physical manifestation and psychic effects, a technology that strikes deep at the collective consciousness, confusing us, molding us.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch14:27120-27430 opinion first hand

  270. 270

    Jacques Vallee suggests Pelletier's remark about the paralysing power experienced by the Fatima children could apply to the entire spectrum of close encounters with UFOs.

    “His remark could apply to the entire spectrum of close encounters with UFOs.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch15:16035-16106 opinion first hand

  271. 271

    Jacques Vallee suggests that some UFO close encounters, when the phenomenon finds a ready believer under the right social and psychological conditions, can become the nucleus of a new religious movement, sect, or belief.

    “Some of the stories are strange yet consistent enough to become the nucleus of a new religious movement if the witness were of the proper psychological inclination...When the right combination of social and psychological conditions is met, when the phenomenon finds a witness a ready believer, then revelation takes place.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch15:58244-58609 opinion first hand

  272. 272

    At least two police officers among UFO witnesses became outcasts as a result of their experiences.

    “This has been the fate of at least two police officers and of numerous other UFO witnesses.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch15:58830-58911 opinion first hand

  273. 273

    The wives of several policemen involved in UFO incidents divorced them.

    “The wives of several policemen involved in UFO incidents divorced them.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch15:59574-59640 opinion first hand

  274. 274

    An astronomer colleague of Jacques Vallee described in a letter a case of UFO-related psychic phenomena that he had personally investigated, involving a person who began experiencing extrasensory perception situations in his early teens.

    “My correspondent goes on to describe a case of UFO-related psychic phenomena that he has himself investigated: This person began experiencing ESP situations in his early teens.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch16:18189-18360 hearsay third hand

  275. 275

    The subject of the astronomer colleague's investigation observed UFOs twice with other boys, the first sighting being a night flyby of several greenish oval objects, with similar objects seen again a few days later and thought to have landed in a nearby wood.

    “At about this time he observed UFOs twice, both times with other boys. The first sighting was a night flyby of several greenish oval objects; a few days later similar objects were seen again and were thought to have landed in a nearby wood.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch16:18625-18860 hearsay third hand

  276. 276

    A witness wrote to Jacques Vallee that they had received a telepathic 'message' concerning UFOs four times, describing it as a sequence of thoughts distinguishable from their own, more like a machine than an intelligence because there was no emotion.

    “Four times I have received a telepathic "message" concerning UFOs. Not like a sound or voice. It was a sequence of thoughts somehow distinguishable from my own. It was more like a machine than an intelligence because there was no emotion”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch16:19720-19950 hearsay second hand

  277. 277

    Jacques Vallee has speculated earlier in his book that UFO phenomena might originate on our own planet.

    “Earlier in this book I have speculated several times that UFO phenomena might in fact originate on our own planet, and I think this hypothesis will deserve to be taken into consideration in any future study.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch16:25605-25806 opinion first hand

  278. 278

    In the communications channelled through Uri Geller, the source of his power has identified itself as emanating from UFOs.

    “In the communications channeled through Geller the source of this power has identified itself as emanating from UFOs.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch16:5166-5278 hearsay

  279. 279

    During their December 1972 lunch, Uri Geller told Jacques Vallee confidentially the details of his own close encounters with UFOs.

    “Uri studied these photographs with much interest and proceeded to tell me confidentially the details of his own close encounters with UFOs.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch16:6243-6377 testimony second hand

  280. 280

    Jeanne Dixon is quoted by a tabloid, which calls her "the best psychic in the U.S.", as prophesying an imminent change in humanity's understanding of UFOs that will bring great benefit to Mankind.

    “Jeanne Dixon is quoted by a tabloid (which calls her “the best psychic in the U.S.”) as prophesying an imminent change in our understanding of UFOs, “and it will bring great benefit to Mankind,” she says.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch17:1330-1529 opinion second hand

  281. 281

    In an interview with Jeanne Dixon published in May 1974, she said that UFOs are flown by women pilots and come from a planet located beyond Jupiter that remains undiscovered.

    “According to an interview with Dixon published in May, 1974, the UFOs are flown by women pilots and come from a planet located beyond Jupiter, but still undiscovered”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch17:1536-1689 opinion second hand

  282. 282

    Jeanne Dixon said the occupants of the UFOs are interested in humans but have avoided contacting them until now because humans have not been mentally ready.

    ““The people in the UFOs are interested in us, but have avoided contacting us until now because we have not been mentally ready.””

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch17:1704-1824 opinion second hand

  283. 283

    Allan the Messiah advertises the Everlasting Gospel, which he says was revealed to him by flying saucers.

    “advertising the Everlasting Gospel revealed to him by the saucers”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch17:20279-20337 hearsay second hand

  284. 284

    Jacques Vallee believes that in every instance of the UFO phenomenon he has studied in depth he has found as many rational elements as absurd ones, and as many that could be interpreted as friendly as ones that seemed hostile.

    “I am led to this hypothesis by the fact that in every instance of the UFO phenomenon I have been able to study in depth I have found as many rational elements as I have absurd ones, and many that I could interpret as friendly and many that seemed hostile.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch17:3815-4062 opinion first hand

  285. 285

    Jacques Vallee compiled a graph showing the development of UFO waves between 1947 and 1962.

    “Consider the graph of Figure 3. It shows the development of the UFO waves between 1947 and 1962.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch17:5118-5209 observation first hand

  286. 286

    To construct the UFO wave graph, Jacques Vallee collected available sightings, examined them for possible rejection causes, classified them by type and reliability, assigned a weight to each selected case, aggregated the weights into a monthly index of UFO activity, and removed the trend to extract cyclic variations.

    “To obtain such a graph one has to collect all available sightings and examine them one at a time for possible rejection causes. Then one needs to classify them as to type and reliability, assigning a weight to each selected case and aggregating these weights to obtain a monthly index of UFO activity. Finally, one needs to eliminate the trend, the background variation, from fluctuations of the curve, in order to extract the cyclic variations.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch17:5302-5736 administrative first hand

  287. 287

    The Project Blue Book files supported the notion that UFOs were physical objects with all the characteristics of an advanced technology.

    “These files did support the notion that UFOs were physical objects with all the characteristics of an advanced technology, but they also posed some intriguing challenges of a different kind”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch7:1222-1407 opinion first hand

  288. 288

    Witnesses in the Project Blue Book files reported unexplained physiological effects in the presence of the UFO phenomenon.

    “witnesses described an alteration of consciousness in the presence of the phenomenon, and even some unexplained physiological effects.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch7:1413-1539 observation second hand

  289. 289

    Witnesses in the Project Blue Book files described an alteration of consciousness in the presence of the UFO phenomenon.

    “witnesses described an alteration of consciousness in the presence of the phenomenon, and even some unexplained physiological effects.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch7:1413-1539 observation second hand

  290. 290

    The Invisible College attempted to build a bridge between the investigation of psychic functioning and the study of unidentified aerial phenomena.

    “It attempted to build a bridge between two fields that were growing in ignorance of each other, namely the investigation of psychic functioning and the study of unidentified aerial phenomena.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch7:243-424 opinion first hand

  291. 291

    At the time of the book's original publication, most advocates of the reality of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) were convinced the objects were spacecraft from other planets.

    “At the time, most advocates of the reality of UFOs were convinced that the objects were spacecraft from other planets and that public opinion would “soon” force governments to recognize this fact.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch7:436-627 opinion first hand

  292. 292

    At the time of the book's original publication, most advocates of the reality of UFOs believed public opinion would soon force governments to recognise UFOs as extraterrestrial spacecraft.

    “and that public opinion would “soon” force governments to recognize this fact.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch7:554-627 opinion first hand

  293. 293

    A small group of scientists actively investigated UFO cases, interviewed witnesses, and exchanged data through a small, informal international network of contacts.

    “For the small group of scientists who were actively investigating cases, interviewing witnesses, and exchanging data through a small, informal network of international contacts, the phenomenon did not seem to fall so simply into comfortable patterns.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch7:692-933 administrative first hand

  294. 294

    According to Jacques Vallee's data, many UFO witnesses have had unique experiences with apparently 'alien' voices or thoughts in connection with the sightings.

    “The data also show that many witnesses have had unique experiences with apparently "alien" voices or thoughts in connection with the sightings.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:10152-10285 observation first hand

  295. 295

    Jacques Vallee holds that certain UFO witnesses have been changed in a manner not explained by the events they claim to have observed.

    “But I am especially referring to the fact that certain witnesses have been changed in a manner that is not explained by the events they claim to have observed.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:10296-10446 opinion first hand

  296. 296

    Jacques Vallee proposes in this book the hypothesis that UFOs may constitute a control system.

    “In this book I propose to examine the hypothesis that UFOs may constitute a control system”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:1285-1369 opinion first hand

  297. 297

    Jacques Vallee suggests that UFOs may serve to stabilise the relationship between humanity's consciousness needs and the evolving complexities of the world, analogous to a thermostat stabilising body temperature against changing weather.

    “Similarly, UFOs may serve to stabilize the relationship between man's consciousness needs and the evolving complexities of the world which he must understand.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:1803-1950 opinion first hand

  298. 298

    Jacques Vallee identifies two major approaches among his scientific colleagues interested in UFOs: a 'technological' (nuts and bolts) approach taken by physicists and engineers, and a 'psychological' approach taken by psychologists interpreting UFO reports as archetypes or fulfilment of a psychological need.

    “there have been two major approaches, which might be termed "technological" and "psychological."”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:2079-2160 observation first hand

  299. 299

    Jacques Vallee wrote The Invisible College book presenting a personal interpretation of Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) patterns in light of current changes in human consciousness.

    “This is not simply a book about UFOs or UCTs. This book presents a personal interpretation of their patterns in the light of current changes in human consciousness.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:20825-20975 administrative first hand

  300. 300

    Objects investigated by the Invisible College were reported not only in the air but also to land in fields and on roads.

    “not only were the objects seen in the air, they were reported to land in the fields and on the roads of our planet.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:23345-23453 observation first hand

  301. 301

    A small number of witnesses to UFO-related events gave their stories to the press and were ridiculed.

    “A few of these witnesses gave stories to the press and were ridiculed.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:23537-23597 observation first hand

  302. 302

    An anonymous engineer friend of Jacques Vallee, who wished to remain hidden, told him that according to a 'teaching machine', the beings from outer space who fly UFOs have no religion in the human sense, live in never-ending love, can make life longer, and can replace any organ in the body.

    “Neither can I believe my engineer friend when he tells me that according to the “teaching machine” the beings from outer space who fly the UFOs have no religion in the human sense and live in never-ending love, can make life longer and can replace any organ in the body.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:25024-25289 hearsay second hand

  303. 303

    Jacques Vallee holds that close encounters with UFOs bring about control of human beliefs and control of the relationship between human consciousness and physical reality, a control that he says has been in force throughout history.

    “I will try to show that what takes place through close encounters with UFOs is control of human beliefs, control of the relationship between our consciousness and physical reality, that this control has been in force throughout history”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:4412-4640 opinion first hand

  304. 304

    Jacques Vallee considers that a UFO, when visible in everyday reality, constitutes both a physical entity with mass, inertia and volume that can be measured, and a window toward another mode of reality for at least some percipients.

    “I think that it constitutes *both* a physical entity with mass, inertia, volume, etc., which we can measure, *and* a window toward another mode of reality for at least some of the percipients.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:4834-5014 opinion first hand

  305. 305

    Jacques Vallee has personally seen phenomena he calls UFOs.

    “I might as well confess at the outset that I have seen phenomena I can only call UFOs.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:5513-5594 testimony first hand

  306. 306

    Jacques Vallee tracked UFOs on two occasions during his professional work using small telescopes called theodolites.

    “I have not only seen them, but on two occasions in the course of my professional work have tracked them, using small telescopes called theodolites.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:5600-5735 testimony first hand

  307. 307

    A few of Jacques Vallee's astronomer colleagues made similar UFO observations, and after inquiries it became apparent there were many similar sightings by professional astronomers worldwide.

    “A few of my astronomer colleagues had made similar observations, and after making inquiries, we became aware of many similar sightings by professional astronomers the world over.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:5748-5921 observation first hand

  308. 308

    French scientists reacted to the seemingly manoeuvrable and 'impossible' objects tracked by Jacques Vallee and colleagues by seeking to suppress their manifestation rather than investigating whether they represented advanced technology.

    “Instead of asking if these seemingly maneuverable and "impossible" objects could be a manifestation of some advanced technology (and in some cases it may well have been terrestrial), they thought only of suppressing their manifestation.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:6061-6283 observation first hand

  309. 309

    Jacques Vallee's early experience with scientific scepticism brought him into contact with a number of scientists who, like him, wanted to understand the nature of the UFO phenomenon and were especially bent upon determining whether it had an intelligent origin.

    “It brought me into contact with a number of scientists who, like myself, wanted to understand the nature of the UFO phenomenon, and were especially bent upon determining whether or not it had an intelligent origin.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:6622-6829 testimony first hand

  310. 310

    Jacques Vallee has argued for many years that the UFO phenomenon could not be explained by hoax and illusion alone and that it contains an opportunity for genuinely new knowledge.

    “I have argued for many years that the phenomenon could not be explained by hoax and illusion alone, that it contains an opportunity for genuinely new knowledge.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:8841-8991 opinion first hand

  311. 311

    Jacques Vallee processed witness account information on a computer using modern techniques of analysis as part of his study of the extraterrestrial theory of UFOs.

    “Much of my motivation for examining critically the extraterrestrial theory has come from a study of the information of witness accounts, which I processed on a computer using modern techniques of analysis.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:9119-9315 administrative first hand

  312. 312

    Jacques Vallee holds that no theory of UFOs can be deemed acceptable if it does not account for reported psychic effects produced by UFOs, including space-time distortions experienced by percipients when craft-like devices appear or fade away, resembling spiritualist descriptions of materialisations.

    “No theory of UFOs can be deemed acceptable if it does not account for the reported psychic effects produced by these objects. By "psychic effects" I refer to the space-time distortions experienced by percipients of craft-like devices which appear or "fade away" on the spot, in ways that are reminiscent of descriptions of "materializations" in the spiritualist literature.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch8:9778-10140 opinion first hand

  313. 313

    A husband and wife who drove a truck in the American Midwest were fired from their job after reporting that an unidentified flying object followed them along a Missouri road one October night, emitting a burst of light that blinded the husband and melted the plastic frame of his glasses.

    “A husband and wife team who drove a truck in the Midwest were fired from their job when they reported that an object had followed them along a Missouri road one October night, emitting a burst of light that blinded the husband...and caused the plastic frame of his glasses to melt.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:2454-2811 testimony second hand

  314. 314

    Jacques Vallee considers unidentified flying objects to be neither objects nor flying, capable of dematerialising as some photographs show, and to violate the known laws of motion.

    “The things we call unidentified flying objects are neither objects nor flying. They can dematerialize, as some recent photographs show, and they violate the laws of motion as we know them.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:26370-26553 opinion first hand

  315. 315

    Jacques Vallee considers that unidentified flying objects have been seen throughout history and have consistently received or provided their own explanation within the framework of each culture, being regarded as gods in antiquity, magicians in medieval times, scientific geniuses in the nineteenth century, and interplanetary travellers in the present day.

    “UFOs have been seen throughout history and have consistently received (or provided) their own explanation within the framework of each culture. In antiquity their occupants were regarded as gods; in medieval times, as magicians; in the nineteenth century, as scientific geniuses. And finally, in our own time, as interplanetary travelers.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:26563-26891 opinion first hand

  316. 316

    Jacques Vallee considers that unidentified flying object reports are not necessarily caused by visits from space travellers, and that the phenomenon could instead be a manifestation of a more complex technology involving time and space structured differently than physicists have assumed.

    “UFO reports are not necessarily caused by visits from space travelers. The phenomenon could be a manifestation of a much more complex technology. If time and space are not as simple in structure as physicists have assumed until now, then the question, “where do they come from?” may be meaningless: they could come from a place in *time.*”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:27073-27405 opinion first hand

  317. 317

    Jacques Vallee considers that the key to understanding the unidentified flying object phenomenon lies in the psychic effects it produces in observers, whose lives are often deeply changed as they develop unusual talents with which they may find it difficult to cope.

    “The key to an understanding of the phenomenon lies in the psychic effects it produces (or the psychic awareness it makes possible) in its observers. Their lives are often deeply changed, and they develop unusual talents with which they may find it difficult to cope.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:27517-27778 opinion first hand

  318. 318

    Jacques Vallee considers that the proportion of unidentified flying object witnesses who come forward and publish accounts of their experiences is quite low, with most choosing to remain silent.

    “The proportion of witnesses who do come forward and publish accounts of these experiences seems to be quite low; most of them choose to remain silent.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:27784-27927 opinion first hand

  319. 319

    Jacques Vallee considers that contact between human percipients and the unidentified flying object phenomenon occurs under conditions controlled by the phenomenon itself, characterised by a constant factor of absurdity that leads to rejection of the story by the upper layers of the target society while being absorbed at a deep unconscious level.

    “Contact between human percipients and the UFO phenomenon occurs under conditions controlled by the latter. Its characteristic feature is a constant factor of absurdity that leads to a rejection of the story by the upper layers of the target society and an absorption at a deep unconscious level of the symbols conveyed by the encounter.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:27939-28265 opinion first hand

  320. 320

    Jacques Vallee does not regard the unidentified flying object phenomenon as the unknowable, uncontrollable game of a higher order of beings, and does not think an encounter with it would add to a human being anything they did not already possess at an unconscious level.

    “I am not regarding the phenomenon of the UFOs as the unknowable, uncontrollable game of a higher order of beings. Neither is it likely, in my view, that an encounter with them would add to the human being anything it did not already possess—at an unconscious level, possibly.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:28532-28798 opinion first hand

  321. 321

    Jacques Vallee considers that the unidentified flying object phenomenon behaves as if it were the product of a technology that follows well-defined rules and patterns, though fantastic by ordinary human standards.

    “Everything works, in my opinion, as if the phenomenon were the product of a *technology* that followed well-defined rules and patterns, though fantastic by ordinary human standards.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:28808-28979 opinion first hand

  322. 322

    Jacques Vallee considers that the unidentified flying object phenomenon has so far posed no apparent threat to national defence and seems indifferent to the welfare of individual witnesses.

    “The phenomenon has so far posed no apparent threat to national defense and seems to be indifferent to the welfare of individual witnesses, leading many to assume that we may be dealing with a still-undiscovered natural occurrence”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:28990-29209 opinion first hand

  323. 323

    Reports of paranormal events in connection with close encounters with UFOs have become common rather than exceptional.

    “In recent years, too, the report of paranormal events in connection with close encounters with UFOs seems to have become the rule rather than the exception”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:4079-4225 opinion first hand

  324. 324

    Jacques Vallee terms the collection of psychic observations associated with UFO encounters the 'psychic component' of the UFO phenomenon.

    “These observations constitute what I have termed the "psychic component" of the UFO phenomenon.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:5247-5331 opinion first hand

  325. 325

    During the first half of October 1973, encounters with unidentified flying objects were reported all over the United States.

    “When encounters with unidentified flying objects were suddenly reported all over the United States during the first half of October, 1973”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:943-1076 observation

  326. 326

    In the last twenty-five years, at least five thousand sightings of unidentified flying objects have been filed away unexplained by competent investigators.

    “In the last twenty-five years, at least five thousand sightings of unidentified flying objects have been filed away unexplained by competent investigators”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:9726-9867 opinion first hand

  327. 327

    Mr. C witnessed the appearance of two UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) in August 1960.

    “In August of 1960 I witnessed the appearance of two UFOs and since that time have had occasional encounters with the phenomena.”

    THE INVISIBLE COLLEGE: What a Group of Scientists Has Discovered About UFO Influences on the Human Race 2014-09-27 ch9:99-216 testimony second hand

  328. 328

    Bob Fish stated that within the United States of America, hard scientific data relevant to Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) has existed for many years and remains available today, if one knows where to look and what to look for.

    “Within the US, this information has existed for many years and is still available today, if one knows “where to look” and “what to look for.””

    Re: Leslie Kean book comment 2015-03-05 char:1030-1167 opinion first hand

  329. 329

    Bob Fish considers radar data and thermal imaging data a good start for studying Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), especially if one knows the flight envelope and manoeuvring characteristics of a UFO.

    “Radar data and thermal imaging data is a good start, especially if one knows the flight envelope and maneuvering characteristics of a UFO.”

    Re: Leslie Kean book comment 2015-03-05 char:1176-1310 opinion first hand

  330. 330

    Bob Fish considers, based on significant personal experience, that Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) hunters are looking in the wrong places.

    “Based on significant personal experience, I can attest that UFO hunters are looking in the wrong places.”

    Re: Leslie Kean book comment 2015-03-05 char:542-639 opinion first hand

  331. 331

    Bob Fish considers that random personal observations, fuzzy photographers, and crop circles will never prove the existence of anything, since Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) appearances to humans are transitory and somewhat related to the observer's state of mind.

    “Random personal observations, fuzzy photographers, and crop circles will never “prove” the existence of anything, especially since UFO appearances to humans are transitory and somewhat related to the observer’s state of mind.”

    Re: Leslie Kean book comment 2015-03-05 char:650-870 opinion first hand

  332. 332

    Budd Hopkins was an accomplished abstract expressionist painter and UFO researcher.

    “my dear friend Budd Hopkins, an accomplished abstract expressionist painter and UFO researcher”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch23:10272-10356 administrative

  333. 333

    Stewart Alexander invited Leslie Kean to attend a retreat/conference he gives twice a year and to present a talk on Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) there.

    “Unsure about what relationship he would have to this book, he invited me to attend a retreat/conference he gives twice a year and to present a talk on UFOs there.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch38:7571-7727 administrative

  334. 334

    Leslie Kean considers UFOs to be a genuine scientific mystery.

    “Fundamentally, after many years of research and in-depth interviews with key players, I have learned that UFOs are a genuine scientific mystery.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch44:12135-12271 opinion first hand

  335. 335

    Extraordinary UFO sightings have been occurring in America for more than sixty years, many observed by pilots and military personnel, and many yielding physical evidence.

    “There have been extraordinary UFO sightings occurring in America for more than sixty years, many by pilots and military personnel, and many yielding physical evidence.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch44:12280-12438 opinion first hand

  336. 336

    Volumes of UFO case studies have been published by qualified researchers and scientists since the 1950s, documenting UFO incidents across the globe.

    “Volumes of case studies have been published by qualified researchers and scientists since the 1950s, documenting UFO incidents all over the globe and leaving a solid record begging for further analysis by contemporary scientists.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch44:12448-12666 opinion first hand

  337. 337

    Leslie Kean observed a universal curiosity about the UFO mystery growing over time.

    “There exists a universal curiosity, increasing over time, about the UFO mystery. I have seen it grow”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch44:20066-20162 observation first hand

  338. 338

    Leslie Kean observed an improvement in straightforward media coverage about UFOs during the ten years since she began her UFO study.

    “have observed an improvement in straightforward media coverage about UFOs since I began this study ten years ago”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch44:20172-20281 observation first hand

  339. 339

    UFOs became a national issue in the United States in the late 1940s.

    “In this country, UFOs became a national issue in the late 1940s, when there were many sightings of great public interest and concern that were covered widely by the media.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch44:20860-21025 observation first hand

  340. 340

    In the late 1940s there were many UFO sightings of great public interest and concern that were covered widely by the media.

    “there were many sightings of great public interest and concern that were covered widely by the media”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch44:20930-21025 observation first hand

  341. 341

    The United States Air Force took the lead in addressing UFO sightings during the late 1940s, complicated by the onset of the Cold War.

    “The U.S. Air Force took the lead in addressing these events, complicated by the onset of the Cold War, attempting to explain away as many cases as possible in order to divert public attention from the mystery.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch44:21032-21233 observation first hand

  342. 342

    The United States Air Force attempted to explain away as many UFO cases as possible in order to divert public attention from the mystery.

    “attempting to explain away as many cases as possible in order to divert public attention from the mystery”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch44:21135-21233 opinion first hand

  343. 343

    The United States government does not participate in the UFO controversy and has no policy in place to address growing public concern about UFOs.

    “Our government still stays out of the UFO controversy and has no policy in place to address growing concern.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch44:22084-22184 opinion first hand

  344. 344

    With digital cameras and cell phones now commonplace, UFO photographs are taken almost every day, though they are easier to fake.

    “With digital cameras and cell phones now commonplace, UFO photos are snapped almost every day, although they are easier to fake, making the new technology a mixed blessing.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch44:22780-22943 observation first hand

  345. 345

    Leslie Kean began an in-depth investigation into evidence for unidentified aerial phenomena, popularly known as UFOs, in 1999, reviewing decades of official case reports and government documents and interviewing pilots, military personnel, and government officials.

    “In 1999 I began an in-depth investigation into evidence for unidentified aerial phenomena, popularly known as UFOs, reviewing decades of official case reports, government documents, and interviewing pilots, military personnel, and government officials.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch7:6287-6529 administrative first hand

  346. 346

    Leslie Kean concluded there is solid evidence for the existence of remarkable unknown physical objects in the skies, but their nature, purpose, and origin have not yet been determined.

    “I learned that there is solid evidence for the existence of remarkable unknown physical objects in our skies, but we have not yet determined what they are, why they are here, or where they come from.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch7:6557-6751 opinion first hand

  347. 347

    Leslie Kean considers it unfortunate that the extensive documentation on UFOs has been marginalized or dismissed by scientists searching for more conventional signs of extraterrestrial life.

    “it is unfortunate that the extensive documentation on UFOs has been marginalized or dismissed by scientists searching for more conventional signs of extraterrestrial life.”

    Surviving Death 2017-03-07 ch7:6986-7152 opinion first hand

  348. 348

    The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) collected video and audio recordings of reported UFO incidents, including footage from a Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet showing an aircraft surrounded by some kind of glowing aura travelling at high speed and rotating as it moves.

    “The program collected video and audio recordings of reported U.F.O. incidents, including footage from a Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet showing an aircraft surrounded by some kind of glowing aura traveling at high speed and rotating as it moves.”

    Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:10275-10507 observation

  349. 349

    Luis Elizondo, Harold E. Puthoff and Christopher K. Mellon are speaking publicly about their efforts as To the Stars Academy of Arts and Science aims to raise money for research into UFOs.

    “They are speaking publicly about their efforts as their venture aims to raise money for research into U.F.O.s.”

    Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:12771-12879 administrative

  350. 350

    Robert Bigelow believes unidentified flying objects (UFOs) have visited Earth.

    “On CBS’s “60 Minutes” in May, Mr. Bigelow said he was “absolutely convinced” that aliens exist and that U.F.O.s have visited Earth.”

    Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:2187-2298 opinion first hand

  351. 351

    James E. Oberg is a former NASA space shuttle engineer and the author of ten books on spaceflight who often debunks UFO sightings.

    “James E. Oberg, a former NASA space shuttle engineer and the author of 10 books on spaceflight who often debunks U.F.O. sightings, was also doubtful.”

    Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:4400-4521 administrative

  352. 352

    In 1947, the United States Air Force began a series of studies that investigated more than 12,000 claimed UFO sightings before it was officially ended in 1969.

    “In 1947, the Air Force began a series of studies that investigated more than 12,000 claimed U.F.O. sightings before it was officially ended in 1969.”

    Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:6377-6477 administrative

  353. 353

    For years, the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) investigated reports of unidentified flying objects (UFOs), according to Department of Defense officials, interviews with program participants and records obtained by The New York Times.

    “For years, the program investigated reports of unidentified flying objects, according to Defense Department officials, interviews with program participants and records obtained by The New York Times.”

    Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:665-858 administrative second hand

  354. 354

    Of the more than 12,000 UFO sightings investigated by the Air Force's project including Project Blue Book, 701 remained unexplained.

    “although 701 remained unexplained”

    Glowing Auras and ‘Black Money’: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program 2017-12-16 char:6818-6840 measurement

  355. 355

    D. W. Pasulka coined the term "meta-experiencer" to describe scientists who scooped data from primary UFO experiencers while being reticent to admit they believed in the reality of UFOs.

    “I coined the term “meta-experiencers” to describe this group of scientists. I cautiously observed them, noting that most were reticent to admit they believed in the reality of UFOs, but they readily scooped data from the primary experiencers.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch1:18355-18584 observation first hand

  356. 356

    D. W. Pasulka avoided Tyler D. because of rumours about his government affiliations, based on her knowledge from previous scholars' work that governments have an interest in the topic of UFO events.

    “I avoided him because of these rumors. I knew from previous scholars’ work that when one scratched the surface of the topic of UFO events, eventually one would find that governments were also interested in the topic, and one might cross paths with agents.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch1:19155-19403 opinion first hand

  357. 357

    Kary Mullis had an anomalous experience he referred to as a UFO encounter, though he was careful not to conclude that was what it was.

    “He also had an anomalous experience that he referred to as a UFO encounter, although he was very careful not to "conclude" that was what it was.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch1:46285-46425 testimony second hand

  358. 358

    Jacques Vallee's approach to the UFO phenomenon addresses three aspects: the physical aspect, the testimonial aspect represented by experiencers, and the social aspect of how belief in the phenomenon persists regardless of verifiable evidence.

    “We were all well acquainted with the theories of Jacques Vallee, the famous researcher, astronomer, and computer scientist. Vallee's approach addressed three aspects: the physical aspect, which Tyler represented; the testimonial aspect, represented by experiencers; and the social aspect, how belief in the phenomenon persists regardless of whether there is any verifiable evidence to support it.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch1:55341-55734 opinion second hand

  359. 359

    A UFO flap is a series of sightings of UFOs by several individuals or groups of individuals over a span of a few days.

    “which were of individual sightings or of a flap—a series of sightings of UFOs by several individuals and even groups of individuals over a span of a few days.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch2:18986-19139 administrative first hand

  360. 360

    James Master argued that the phenomenon commonly referred to as UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) exists.

    ““We will start by stating that the phenomenon commonly referred to as UFOs exists. The evidence supports that there is a phenomenon, it interacts with humans, but we cannot as yet explain it.””

    American Cosmic 2019 ch2:21179-21366 opinion first hand

  361. 361

    James Master considers that although the UFO phenomenon interacts with humans, it cannot yet be explained.

    “The evidence supports that there is a phenomenon, it interacts with humans, but we cannot as yet explain it.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch2:21261-21366 opinion first hand

  362. 362

    James Master said that, according to Jacques Vallee, the overarching message the UFO phenomenon appears to send is "you are not alone," styled to the level of the recipient's cultural understanding and abilities.

    “But, per Jacques, the overarching message the phenomenon appears to send is ‘you are not alone’—styled to the level of your cultural understanding and abilities.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch2:36372-36523 opinion second hand

  363. 363

    Jacques Vallee suggests that the UFO might not be an object, but some kind of "window" into another dimension.

    “Jacques, one of the first truly innovative thinkers on the subject, suggests that the UFO might not be an object, but some kind of “window” into another dimension.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch2:36536-36689 opinion second hand

  364. 364

    Jacques Vallee proposed the idea that a UFO is not an object but a window through which one might view other worlds.

    “I thought of Jacques Vallee’s idea of the UFO not being an object, but a window through which we might view other worlds.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch2:50660-50774 opinion second hand

  365. 365

    Scott Browne has had anomalous experiences suggestive of UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) activity since he was a toddler.

    “Significantly, he has had anomalous experiences suggestive of UFO activity from the time he was a toddler.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:2317-2415 observation first hand

  366. 366

    David Stinnett does not draw overarching conclusions about the UFO phenomenon, other than that it is real and that it deceives.

    “David does not draw any overarching conclusions about the UFO phenomenon—other than that it is real and that it deceives—but he believes it is real.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:45888-46031 opinion first hand

  367. 367

    D. W. Pasulka initially argued that UFOs were real only in a virtual sense, quoting Jean Baudrillard to support the point.

    “In my foolish attempt to think through the ontological status of UFOs, I had argued that they were real only in a virtual sense. That was my conclusion, and I quoted the French scholar Jean Baudrillard as if that would somehow support my point.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:47480-47718 opinion first hand

  368. 368

    Jacques Vallee considers it unwise to ignore the ontological aspects of the UFO.

    “Jacques’s gentle chastisement was swift: “It is unwise to ignore the ontological aspects of the UFO.””

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:47725-47821 opinion first hand

  369. 369

    Tyler D. and James Master believed they interfaced with the UFO phenomenon directly.

    “I worked with communities of people who, like Tyler and James, believed they interfaced with the phenomenon directly.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:48281-48389 opinion first hand

  370. 370

    D. W. Pasulka joined the In the Field study group after telling Scott Browne she studied UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) phenomena and worked with Jacques Vallee.

    “I told him that I studied UFO phenomena, and then, on the chance that he might respect Jacques Vallee’s work, I told him that I was a fan of Jacques and that I worked with him. That was credential enough; he immediately let me into the group.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:4836-5072 testimony first hand

  371. 371

    D. W. Pasulka assumed that the work of Tyler D. and James Master would spawn rumours, described by Carl Jung as shoots or hints of information that others interpret and spin into stories and narratives that constitute the UFO narrative and, ultimately, religion.

    “I assumed that their work would spawn rumors, as Jung calls them—shoots of information or just hints of information that others would then interpret and spin into stories and narratives that would then constitute the UFO narrative, story, and, ultimately, religion.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:48509-48765 opinion first hand

  372. 372

    Scott Browne works to correct the great variety of virtual, distorted narratives about the UFO phenomenon, a task D. W. Pasulka considers noble but ultimately futile.

    “My work with them further helped me see how those who are most involved with the phenomenon, and who are known, work furiously to try to correct the great variety of its virtual lives. This task is noble, but ultimately futile.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:48965-49185 opinion first hand

  373. 373

    Scott Browne exposed a series of viral social-media images of supposed UFOs by enlarging and posting them side by side, showing they were actually different types of oddly shaped balloons.

    “I was reminded of a recent incident on social media in which Scott had exposed a series of images of supposed UFOs. The original photographs had garnered a large following. The images were of a distant object that was circular and did not look like an airplane or anything conventionally seen in the sky. Scott took the images, blew them up, and posted them side by side, showing what they really were, which were different types of oddly shaped balloons.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:49858-50304 observation second hand

  374. 374

    After Scott Browne's balloon exposé, the original posters of the images accepted the truth of the exposé but claimed the UFOs had disguised themselves as balloons rather than concluding they had misidentified balloons as UFOs.

    “Instead of reaching the conclusion that they had misidentified balloons as UFOs, they said that the UFOs had disguised themselves as balloons. For them, the objects really were UFOs, but UFOs ingeniously disguised as simple balloons.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:50680-50906 observation first hand

  375. 375

    In the 1950s, three Stanford University sociologists infiltrated a small UFO group led by Marian Keech, who had predicted the arrival of UFOs amid a global cataclysm.

    “In the 1950s three Stanford University sociologists infiltrated a small UFO group whose leader, Marian Keech, predicted the arrival of UFOs amid a global cataclysm.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:51052-51206 observation

  376. 376

    When Marian Keech's predicted global cataclysm did not occur, members of her UFO group concluded that they had avoided the cataclysm by placing their faith in Keech and her contacts with extraterrestrials.

    “Faced with the fact that Keech’s predictions did not come true, members of the group concluded that they had avoided the global cataclysm by placing their faith in Keech and her contacts with extraterrestrials.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:51217-51409 observation

  377. 377

    Early in his research, Scott Browne came across a website challenging anyone to fake a believable UFO in a photo and explain in detail how it was done.

    “Early in his research Scott came across a website challenging anyone to fake a believable UFO in a photo and explain in detail how it was done.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:51781-51919 testimony second hand

  378. 378

    Scott Browne used a simple method involving ordinary household items to show how an "experiencer" was able to create realistic-looking UFO photographs.

    “He used a simple method to show how an “experiencer” was able to create realistic-looking UFOs using ordinary household items (Figure 3.3).”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:51925-52061 testimony second hand

  379. 379

    In the years following his fake UFO demonstration, Scott Browne's faked UFO photos reappeared in many guises online, always represented as depicting a real UFO, with some posters even identifying the (fake) locations where they were allegedly photographed.

    “In the years following this educational attempt, Scott endured the reappearance of his faked UFO photos in many guises, always represented as a real UFO. Some posters went so far as to identify the places where it was allegedly photographed—all fake, of course.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:52065-52319 observation second hand

  380. 380

    D. W. Pasulka concludes that the cultural narratives about the UFO phenomenon are formed through processes anticipated by Carl Jung's concept of amplificatory interpretation.

    “The cultural narratives were formed through processes anticipated by Jung with his concept of amplificatory interpretation.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:53053-53161 opinion first hand

  381. 381

    Seventy years after the 1950s Stanford University UFO group study, interpretations of the UFO phenomenon were being amplified exponentially through a new social medium that included bots and computer algorithms, not just people.

    “Seventy years on, interpretations of the phenomenon were being amplified exponentially through a new social medium that included bots and computer algorithms, not just people.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:53177-53345 opinion first hand

  382. 382

    D. W. Pasulka returned to her original, discarded claim that the reality of the UFO phenomenon is virtual, this time without implying that this meant it wasn't real, having given up the dualism of real and virtual.

    “I found myself returning to my original, discarded claim, the one that had humiliated me within the group of researchers: the “reality” of the phenomenon is virtual. But this time, I wasn’t implying that this meant it wasn’t “real.” I had given up the dualism of real and virtual.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:53353-53625 opinion first hand

  383. 383

    Scott Browne's fear is that advanced media and computer technologies are erasing the boundary between real and faked representations of the UFO phenomenon altogether.

    “Scott’s fear is that advanced media and computer technologies are erasing this boundary altogether.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:56252-56340 opinion first hand

  384. 384

    D. W. Pasulka considers that, situated within media studies and media ecology, the digital infrastructure determines and provides an environment ripe for the now-pervasive UFO belief system.

    “If one situates the phenomenon within the context of media studies and media ecology, it appears that the digital infrastructure determines and provides an environment ripe for this now-pervasive belief system.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:56425-56628 opinion first hand

  385. 385

    Scott Browne demonstrated that a photograph claimed by a poster to be a real UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) was actually a Photoshopped object.

    “The crime? Scott had demonstrated that a photograph that a poster had claimed was a real UFO was actually a Photoshopped object.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:593-714 observation first hand

  386. 386

    In the Field requires members to be familiar with the basics of the study of the UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) phenomenon.

    “2.You must be familiar with the basics of the study of this phenomenon.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch3:9196-9256 administrative first hand

  387. 387

    Brad Dancer, National Geographic's senior vice president for audience and business development, acknowledged that companies like National Geographic might play a role in bolstering belief in UFOs.

    “Brad Dancer, National Geographic's senior vice president for audience and business development, recently acknowledged that companies like his might play a role in bolstering UFO belief.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch4:11935-12113 administrative first hand

  388. 388

    Declassified documents have revealed that several governments, including those of the United States and the United Kingdom, covered up and managed information about reported UFO events.

    “Declassified documents have revealed that several governments, including those of the United States and the United Kingdom, have indeed covered up and managed information about reported UFO events.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch4:13035-13225 observation second hand

  389. 389

    Carl Jung recognized that no sensible person would admit to belief in UFOs.

    “thus brilliantly preserving the potential believers' credibility and sidestepping the issue recognized by Jung: that no sensible person would admit to belief in UFOs”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch4:14316-14477 opinion second hand

  390. 390

    Jacques Vallee wrote that contact between human percipients and the UFO phenomenon occurs under conditions controlled by the phenomenon, characterised by a constant factor of absurdity that leads to rejection of the story by the upper layers of the target society and absorption at a deep unconscious level of the symbols conveyed by the encounter.

    “Contact between human percipients and the UFO phenomenon occurs under conditions controlled by the latter. Its characteristic feature is a constant factor of absurdity that leads to a rejection of the story by the upper layers of the target society and an absorption at a deep unconscious level of the symbols conveyed by the encounter.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:11901-12227 opinion second hand

  391. 391

    A small group of sky-watchers on the rocky rim of the Pacific Ocean spotted a bright, shiny, starlike Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) dancing about in the sky on the night of D. W. Pasulka's arrival in the area near Santa Cruz.

    “A small group of sky-watchers, sitting on the rocky rim of the Pacific Ocean, had spotted a bright, shiny, starlike object dancing about in the sky on the night of our arrival.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:1208-1376 observation second hand

  392. 392

    George Hansen argues that a trickster element of absurdity is inherent to the paranormal and the supernatural, including UFOs.

    “He argues that a trickster element of absurdity is inherent to the paranormal and the supernatural, including UFOs.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:14738-14848 opinion second hand

  393. 393

    Jacques Vallee is not claiming that the Marian apparitions are UFO events, nor that modern UFO events are apparitions; instead he breaks them down into constitutive parts and notes their patterns, which he graphs and calls a "Morphology of Miracles".

    “Jacques is not claiming that the apparitions are UFO events or, conversely, that modern UFO events are apparitions. He ceases to define what they are, and instead breaks them down into their constitutive parts, noting their patterns, which he then graphs. He places these data points side by side in a table that he calls a "Morphology of Miracles."”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:17553-17892 opinion second hand

  394. 394

    Jacques Vallee suggests that apparitions and UFOs are both manifestations of a single control mechanism that works like a schedule of reinforcement.

    “Instead, he suggests an analysis based on social effects, identifying both apparitions and UFOs as manifestations of a single control mechanism that works like a schedule of reinforcement.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:18128-18302 opinion second hand

  395. 395

    The term "invisible college" was J. Allen Hynek's name for a small group of researchers, scientists, and academics who studied the UFO phenomenon under cover of anonymity.

    “The invisible college, Jacques wrote, was J. Allen Hynek's name for a small group of researchers, scientists, and academics who studied the phenomenon under the cover of anonymity.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:1850-2020 administrative second hand

  396. 396

    According to Jacques Vallee, the sequence of observations of an entity thought to be the Holy Virgin at Fatima began two years previously with a classical sequence of UFO sightings.

    “that the entire sequence of observations of an entity thought to be the Holy Virgin had begun two years previously with a fairly classical sequence of UFO sightings.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:20592-20747 opinion second hand

  397. 397

    Jacques Vallee considers the technology used by the Blessed Virgin Mary apparition at Fatima indistinguishable from the technology surrounding the UFO phenomenon.

    “it is also indistinguishable from the technology surrounding the UFO phenomenon.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:20972-21041 opinion second hand

  398. 398

    Jacques Vallee considers physical enervation after a sighting to be a recurring pattern in UFO contact events.

    “as noted by Jacques, this is a pattern in UFO contact events”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:22094-22148 opinion second hand

  399. 399

    Jacques Vallee ignores second-order, evaluative interpretations of the Fatima entity as being the Virgin Mary, and takes the same approach to UFO events.

    “He ignores the second-order, evaluative interpretations of the entity as being the Virgin Mary. He takes the same approach to UFO events.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:27963-28093 opinion first hand

  400. 400

    Jacques Vallee found that if one graphs the occurrence of UFO flaps, which are multiple sightings over time, the graph appears to suggest a schedule of reinforcement, though he is not committed to that conclusion and offers it as speculation.

    “This method helped Jacques discover that if one graphs the occurrence of UFO flaps, which are multiple sightings over time, the graph appears to suggest a schedule of reinforcement. Jacques is not committed to the conclusion suggested by the graph, but offers it as a speculation and possible way forward in research.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:28906-29216 opinion first hand

  401. 401

    Jacques Vallee is committed to the idea that UFO phenomena appear to be technological.

    “He is, however, committed to the idea that the phenomena appear to be technological.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:29226-29296 opinion first hand

  402. 402

    Jacques Vallee's work highlighted that the UFO is associated with the sacred while also suggesting that it works like a technology.

    “Jacques's work was unique in that he highlighted how the UFO was associated with the sacred, but he also suggested that it worked like technology.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:3699-3834 opinion first hand

  403. 403

    Jacques Vallee's early work revealed that UFO events function like contemporary artificial intelligence, operating almost invisibly "under the radar," as in the case of contemporary social bots.

    “His early work revealed that UFO events function like contemporary artificial intelligence, "under the radar," and almost invisibly—as in the case of contemporary social bots.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:3846-4016 opinion second hand

  404. 404

    Jacques Vallee considers secrecy and camouflage integral to the efficacy and persistence of the UFO phenomenon as a technology, in the same way social bots effect cultural change completely under the radar of consciousness.

    “For Jacques, secrecy and camouflage are integral to the efficacy and persistence of this technological phenomenon, in much the same way as technologies like social bots effect cultural change, that is, completely under the radar of consciousness.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:4108-4340 opinion second hand

  405. 405

    Jacques Vallee wrote that the UFO phenomenon is a direct challenge to the arbitrary dichotomy between physical reality and spiritual reality.

    “He wrote, "The UFO phenomenon is a direct challenge to this arbitrary dichotomy between physical reality and spiritual reality."”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:5890-6009 opinion second hand

  406. 406

    The materialist school of ufology focuses on the empirical effects of UFOs, such as radiation burns on material objects or on people, blips on radar, and sightings, described as "the nuts and bolts" of the UFO event.

    “The materialist school focuses on the empirical effects of UFOs, like radiation burns on material objects or on people, blips on radars, and sightings. This school focuses on "the nuts and bolts" of the UFO event.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:6253-6460 observation first hand

  407. 407

    Jacques Vallee noted that this reporting pattern was repeated so often that when scientists and the military discuss UFOs, they are not talking about the same part of the phenomenon the public perceives.

    “Jacques noted that this pattern was repeated so often that "when scientists and the military discuss UFOs, they are not talking about the same part of the phenomenon the public perceives."”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:7397-7574 opinion second hand

  408. 408

    There are two datasets regarding UFO reports: one consisting of empirical and material effects, and the other comprising the psychic or subjective aspects of the phenomenon.

    “there are two datasets, one of which consists of empirical and material effects, the other of which comprises the psychic or subjective aspects of the phenomenon.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:7603-7754 opinion first hand

  409. 409

    Fear of public ridicule, or the loss of one's job or credibility, keeps the empirical and psychic datasets of UFO reports separate.

    “What keeps these two datasets separate—one secret, the other told to authorities—is the fear of public ridicule, or worse, the loss of one's job or credibility.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:7768-7916 opinion first hand

  410. 410

    Jacques Vallee wrote that the subterranean and hidden nature of the UFO phenomenon is part of its logic, comparing it to the history of Christianity, which began as a subterranean belief system that was even actively suppressed by the elites of its era.

    “The reasons for this are hinted at in Jacques's book, where he wrote that the subterranean and hidden nature of the UFO phenomenon is part of its logic. He proposed that something revolutionary was afoot, using the history of Christianity as an analogy. Early Christianity began as a subterranean belief system, a fringe belief that circulated among various populations and was even actively suppressed by the elites of the era.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch5:9601-10025 opinion second hand

  411. 411

    Rey Hernandez believes there had never been an in-depth academic study of the topic of UFO-related events prior to his own work.

    “According to Rey, there had never been an in-depth academic study of the topic of UFO-related events.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch6:25100-25194 opinion first hand

  412. 412

    Disclosure is a term used by ufologists to mean that UFOs have revealed themselves, or that there is a public awareness of their presence.

    “Disclosure is a term used by ufologists that means that UFOs have revealed themselves, or that there is a public awareness of their presence.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch6:25961-26093 administrative

  413. 413

    Rey Hernandez argued that the quantum hologram theory of physics and consciousness retires the conundrum of the subjective versus materialist approaches that has plagued research of UFO events.

    “Significantly, he also argued that it retires the conundrum of the subjective versus materialist approaches that has plagued research of UFO events.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch6:36610-36751 opinion first hand

  414. 414

    D. W. Pasulka argues that belief in extraterrestrials and UFOs constitutes a new form of religion.

    “I have made the case that belief in extraterrestrials and UFOs constitutes a new form of religion.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch7:1688-1777 opinion first hand

  415. 415

    Some websites associate the mysterious globe-or-disc object depicted beneath the ascended Christ on the door of the church of Santa Sabina in Rome with a UFO.

    “Later, as I researched the mystery object, I found several websites that associated it with a UFO.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch7:21360-21454 observation second hand

  416. 416

    The Jesuit scientists at the Vatican Observatory are not actively searching for UFOs and are not engaged in ufology.

    “To set the record straight, the Jesuits at the Vatican Observatory are not actively searching for UFOs, nor are they engaged in anything related to ufology.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch7:26241-26389 observation first hand

  417. 417

    The historians of ufology, with few exceptions, ignore the history of African American and indigenous traditions of the UFO, which predate the standard assumption that the UFO mythos began in 1947.

    “The historians of ufology, with few exceptions, ignore the history of African American and indigenous traditions of the UFO, which predate the standard assumption that the UFO mythos was born in the year 1947.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch7:38549-38753 opinion first hand

  418. 418

    The founders of the Nation of Islam were articulating a UFO narrative by the 1930s.

    “The founders of the Nation of Islam were articulating a UFO narrative by the 1930s”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch7:38759-38836 observation first hand

  419. 419

    According to Elijah Muhammad, the Nation of Islam's early leader Wallace Fard Muhammad had spoken of UFOs in the 1920s.

    “according to Elijah Muhammad, the religion’s early leader, Wallace Fard Muhammad, had spoken of UFOs in the 1920s.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch7:38847-38955 hearsay second hand

  420. 420

    D. W. Pasulka observed media professionals using mechanisms of belief to push UFO stories that were at times very far removed from the events that inspired them, yet believed by millions.

    “I saw media professionals use the mechanisms of belief to push a story that was at times very far removed from the event that inspired it, and yet it was believed by millions.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch7:49589-49755 opinion first hand

  421. 421

    Within UFO literature, levitation is a common theme, with people reporting being levitated out of their beds into crafts and through windows during a UFO contact event.

    “Within the UFO literature, levitation was a common theme. People reported that during a UFO contact event they had been levitated out of their beds into crafts, through windows, and so forth.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch7:5782-5967 testimony second hand

  422. 422

    Christopher Bledsoe had a profound UFO sighting that he interpreted as an extension of his own religious tradition.

    “He had a profound UFO sighting that he interpreted as an extension of his own religious tradition.”

    American Cosmic 2019 ch7:7879-7967 testimony second hand

  423. 423

    D. W. Pasulka began researching scientist-believers who believe in and study the UFO phenomenon in 2012, and has since come to know millionaires, billionaires, and successful innovative scientists who hold this belief.

    “They are typical of the many scientist-believers I have met since I began my research in 2012. Since that time, I have come to know millionaires and billionaires and successful innovative scientists who believe in and study the phenomenon.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:12557-12785 testimony first hand

  424. 424

    D. W. Pasulka considers that belief in UFOs is not associated with those on the fringe, contrary to the common perception implied by Stephen Hawking's remarks.

    “The lie has been that belief in UFOs is associated with those on the “fringe”—“cranks and weirdos,” in Hawking’s words. The truth is just the opposite.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:13055-13197 opinion first hand

  425. 425

    D. W. Pasulka began her study of UFO cultures in January 2012.

    “I began my study of UFO cultures in January 2012.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:15773-15817 administrative first hand

  426. 426

    D. W. Pasulka conducted an ethnography of a variety of UFO believers and researched UFOs and ufology.

    “I proceeded in the conventional way in that I conducted an ethnography of a variety of believers and delved into research into UFOs and ufology, a branch of research devoted to the topic.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:15823-16004 administrative first hand

  427. 427

    Massimo Teodorani has been involved in UFO research parallel to more canonical studies of physics and astronomy for at least 25 years.

    “I have been quite heavily involved in the so called “ufo” stuff for at least 25 years, in research that is parallel to more canonic studies of physics and astronomy.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:18387-18542 testimony first hand

  428. 428

    Jacques Vallee refers to the study of UFOs as his hobby.

    “yet he calls the study of UFOs his hobby”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:1870-1905 opinion first hand

  429. 429

    Eric Davis considers UFOs to be real phenomena that are artificial objects under intelligent control, craft of a supremely advanced technology.

    ““UFOs are real phenomena,” he writes. “They are artificial objects under intelligent control. They’re definitely craft of a supremely advanced technology.””

    American Cosmic 2019 char:18843-18985 opinion first hand

  430. 430

    Eric Davis believes most of what academics and scientists know about the UFO phenomenon is secret and will probably remain so.

    “He goes on to say that most of what academics and scientists know about the phenomenon is secret, and will probably remain so.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:18998-19121 opinion first hand

  431. 431

    D. W. Pasulka attended a local conference about UFOs and extraterrestrials on the suggestion of a friend, after he found an advertisement for it.

    “The next day, he found an ad for a local conference about UFOs and extraterrestrials taking place the following weekend. He suggested that I attend.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:22925-23066 administrative first hand

  432. 432

    Many religious practitioners view the biblical prophet Ezekiel's vision of a spinning aerial contraption ('Ezekiel's wheel') as a UFO.

    “Ezekiel's wheel is the prime example of how scripture is used in this context. Many religious practitioners view the strange spinning aerial contraption witnessed by the biblical prophet Ezekiel as a UFO.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:23702-23902 observation

  433. 433

    Rumours of the findings of scientists studying UFO phenomena inspired hoaxes, disinformation, media, and documentaries based on bogus information that purported to inform the public about UFO events and created UFO narratives and mythologies.

    “Rumors of the findings of these scientists inspired hoaxes, disinformation, media, and documentaries based on bogus information that purported to inform the public about UFO events and created UFO narratives and mythologies.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:25792-26004 observation first hand

  434. 434

    Psychic viewers in The Stargate Project reportedly uncovered unintended and surprising targets, including UFOs.

    “In the course of this research, the psychic viewers reportedly uncovered unintended and surprising targets, like UFOs.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:2937-3050 hearsay

  435. 435

    Elijah Muhammad (Elijah Robert Poole) believed that UFOs would come to Earth and bring salvation to his community of believers and punish those who were not believers.

    “Poole believed that UFOs would come to Earth and bring salvation to his community of believers and punish others who were not believers.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:31661-31787 opinion second hand

  436. 436

    Jacques Vallee argues that the UFO phenomenon has been around for thousands of years, though the modern cultural framework for understanding it began around 1947.

    “Vallee argues, however, that the phenomenon has been around for thousands of years, perhaps more. He is right. Yet the ubiquitous cultural framework for understanding them as the modern UFO did indeed begin around 1947.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:33908-34122 opinion second hand

  437. 437

    New religious movements such as the Nation of Islam, Scientology, and Jediism incorporate the UFO narrative into older religious traditions and scriptures.

    “New religious movements such as the Nation of Islam, Scientology, and Jediism incorporate the UFO narrative into older religious traditions and scriptures.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:34439-34583 observation

  438. 438

    Carl Jung called the UFO a technological angel.

    “Carl Jung called the UFO a technological angel.”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:5946-5987 opinion second hand

  439. 439

    Jacques Vallee is the father of the modern study of UFOs.

    “Jacques, father of the modern study of UFOs and an early visionary of the internet”

    American Cosmic 2019 char:687-761 opinion first hand

  440. 440

    Luis Elizondo showed Helene Cooper documents, pictures, and military videos of potential UFOs.

    “He showed her documents, pictures, and military videos of potential UFOs, which appeared fantastic to her, but also persuasive.”

    The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:20099-20215 observation first hand

  441. 441

    The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) existed and did pursue research and investigation into unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).

    “Yes, AATIP existed, and it “did pursue research and investigation into unidentified aerial phenomena,” Pentagon spokesperson Christopher Sherwood told me.”

    The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:2135-2286 testimony first hand

  442. 442

    Chris Mellon considers it established that UFOs exist, and considers the remaining open questions to be why they are here, where they come from, and what technology underlies them.

    ““We know that UFOs exist,” Chris Mellon...pronounced on the show. “This is no longer an issue. The issue is why are they here? Where are they coming from? And what is the technology behind these devices that we are observing?””

    The Media Loves This UFO Expert Who Says He Worked for an Obscure Pentagon Program. Did He? 2019-06-01 char:5814-6102 opinion first hand

  443. 443

    The Department of Defense determined that the authorised release of the three unclassified Navy videos does not impinge on any subsequent investigations of military airspace incursions by Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “does not impinge on any subsequent investigations of military air space incursions by unidentified aerial phenomena”

    Statement by the Department of Defense on the Release of Historical Navy Videos 2020-04-27 char:660-766 administrative first hand

  444. 444

    The aerial phenomena observed in the three released Navy videos remain characterised as unidentified.

    “The aerial phenomena observed in the videos remain characterized as "unidentified."”

    Statement by the Department of Defense on the Release of Historical Navy Videos 2020-04-27 char:972-1041 administrative first hand

  445. 445

    During the 2020-08-08 Arabian Gulf UAP Observation, the aircrew observed one Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) at 07:26 Zulu on 2020-08-08, with no impact to the mission.

    “AT 0726Z, {{redacted: 1.4a}} OBSERVED 1X UAP IVO 39RWL08{{redacted: 1.4a}}52{{redacted: 1.4a}} NO IMPACT TO MISSION.”

    Misrep 4592219 2020-08-08 char:5228-5336 observation

  446. 446

    Paco has a strong personal interest in UFOs.

    “So Paco's obsessed, like he is way into UFOs.”

    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 2020-09-08 01:37:05.4-01:37:08.4 observation first hand

  447. 447

    The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was tasked with investigating UFOs and Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “And AATIP was a program that was tasked with investigating any kind of UFOs, UAPs.”

    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 2020-09-08 01:54:38.4-01:54:44.4 administrative first hand

  448. 448

    There has been an increase in UFO sightings since the beginning of the nuclear era.

    “there's certainly an uptick of, what is it, UFO sightings since... Since the nuclear era.”

    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 2020-09-08 02:59:53.7-03:00:01.6 opinion first hand

  449. 449

    The US Senate's Intelligence Committee ordered the Director of National Intelligence and the Secretary of Defense to deliver a report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings within a month.

    “the intelligence committee has ordered the director of national intelligence and the secretary of defense to deliver a report on the mysterious sightings by next month”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:00:27.1-00:00:36.7 administrative

  450. 450

    The United States government has stated for the record that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are real.

    “The government has already stated for the record that they're real.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:00:56.3-00:00:58.4 administrative second hand

  451. 451

    In 2010, Luis Elizondo took over the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) and focused on the national security implications of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) documented by U.S. service members.

    “When Elizondo took over in 2010, he focused on the national security implications of unidentified aerial phenomena documented by U.S. service members.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:02:01.6-00:02:11.4 administrative

  452. 452

    The Pentagon admits it does not know what the objects shown in recently released Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) images are.

    “the Pentagon admits it doesn't know what in the world this is, or this, or this”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:03:11.4-00:03:18.4 administrative second hand

  453. 453

    In some cases there are simple explanations for what people are witnessing as Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), but in other cases there are not.

    “In some cases, there are simple explanations for what people are witnessing, but there are some that that are not.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:03:30.4-00:03:37.8 opinion first hand

  454. 454

    Ryan Graves' F/A-18 squadron began seeing Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) hovering over restricted airspace southeast of Virginia Beach, Virginia, in 2014.

    “He told us his F-18 squadron began seeing UAPs hovering over restricted airspace southeast of Virginia Beach in 2014”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:04:12.9-00:04:21.5 testimony first hand

  455. 455

    In 2014, Ryan Graves' squadron updated their jet's radar, making it possible to use infrared targeting cameras to zero in on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “when they updated their jet's radar, making it possible to zero in with infrared targeting cameras”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:04:22.4-00:04:28.5 administrative first hand

  456. 456

    Ryan Graves considers the dual radar-and-infrared detection of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) off Virginia Beach hard to spoof.

    “So you're seeing it both with the radar and with the infrared, and that tells you that there is something out there. Pretty hard to spoof that.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:04:29.7-00:04:37.9 opinion first hand

  457. 457

    The U.S. government publicly ignored Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) reports after closing the Project Blue Book investigation in 1969.

    “The government has ignored it, at least publicly, since closing its Project Blue Book investigation in 1969.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:06:23.4-00:06:29.3 administrative

  458. 458

    Luis Elizondo quit the Pentagon in 2017 after getting three Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) videos declassified.

    “until finally, frustrated, he quit the Pentagon in 2017, but not before getting these three videos declassified.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:10:39.5-00:10:47.3 administrative

  459. 459

    Christopher Mellon tried to help Luis Elizondo elevate the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue within the Department of Defense to the Secretary of Defense.

    “I tried to help my colleague, Lou Elizondo, elevate the issue in the department and actually get it to the Secretary of Defense.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:10:52.0-00:10:56.7 testimony first hand

  460. 460

    Christopher Mellon grew concerned that nothing was being done about reports of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “Mellon says he grew concerned nothing was being done about UAPs”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:11:18.7-00:11:22.2 opinion first hand

  461. 461

    Christopher Mellon said their strategy was to get the public interested in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue in order to get Congress interested, and then have Congress pressure the Department of Defense to examine the issue.

    “We knew and understood that you had to go to the public, get the public interested to get Congress interested, to then circle back to the Defense Department and get them to start taking a look at it.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:11:57.6-00:12:06.7 opinion first hand

  462. 462

    After receiving classified briefings on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), Marco Rubio called for a detailed analysis of the phenomena.

    “After receiving classified briefings on UAPs, Senator Marco Rubio called for a detailed analysis.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:12:26.5-00:12:32.7 administrative

  463. 463

    In December 2020, while serving as head of the US Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Marco Rubio asked the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) and the Pentagon to present Congress with an unclassified report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) within a month.

    “This past December, while he was still head of the Intelligence Committee, he asked the Director of National Intelligence and the Pentagon to present Congress an unclassified report by next month.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:12:34.0-00:12:45.5 administrative

  464. 464

    Marco Rubio said there is a stigma attached to discussing Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) on Capitol Hill.

    “You know, there's a stigma on Capitol Hill.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:12:59.0-00:13:00.5 opinion first hand

  465. 465

    Marco Rubio said some of his Senate colleagues are very interested in the topic of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) while others react dismissively when it is raised.

    “some of my colleagues are very interested in this topic and some kind of, you know, giggle when you bring it up”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:13:01.1-00:13:06.5 opinion first hand

  466. 466

    Marco Rubio believes the stigma around Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) should not prevent finding an answer to what the objects are.

    “I don't think we can allow the stigma to keep us from having an answer to a very fundamental question.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:13:07.5-00:13:11.5 opinion first hand

  467. 467

    Marco Rubio wants a formal process established to take Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) reports seriously and continuously catalogue and analyse incoming data.

    “I want us to take it seriously and have a process to take it seriously. I want us to have a process to analyze the data. every time it comes in, that there be a place where this is cataloged and constantly analyzed until we get some answers.”

    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 2021-05-17 00:13:14.2-00:13:24.7 opinion first hand

  468. 468

    Ross Coulthart has conducted a year-long investigation into Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, documenting it in a book and on camera.

    “Ross Coulthard has been on a year-long investigation. Along the way, recording every moment, every revelation in a book and on camera.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:04:11.7-00:04:23.1 administrative

  469. 469

    David Mahler considers recent admissions from multiple high-ranking US officials about UAP to be the most exciting recent development.

    “But it's what's been happening most recently, admissions from multiple high-ranking US officials about unexplained aerial phenomena, or UAPs, that has him most excited.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:05:34.6-00:05:47.4 opinion first hand

  470. 470

    David Mahler considers recent admissions by the US government to be a game changer for the UFO subject and its public perception.

    “The recent admissions on the part of the US government has been literally a game changer with regard to the subject and with regard to the perception, public perception of the UFO subject.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:05:52.2-00:06:00.3 opinion first hand

  471. 471

    David Mahler said that for decades the United States Air Force, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and Central Intelligence Agency maintained an official policy of denying, dispelling, and debunking the UFO subject.

    “Well, for decades, the Air Force, FBI, CIA, all the official agencies had a policy of denial. Deny the subject, dispel the subject, debunk the subject.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:06:01.6-00:06:13.7 opinion first hand

  472. 472

    The culture of denial around UFOs changed with the leaking of infrared footage captured on board sophisticated United States fighter jets and Navy ships, released by the Department of Defense in 2017.

    “Much of that culture of denial changed with the leaking of these tapes from the Department of Defense, or DOD, in 2017. infrared images captured from on board the United States' most sophisticated fighter jets and Navy ships.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:06:16.7-00:06:42.9 administrative

  473. 473

    Christopher Mellon considers some of the observed UAP to be intelligently controlled.

    “Are these objects intelligently controlled? Some of them clearly are, yeah.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:08:15.4-00:08:20.4 opinion first hand

  474. 474

    Christopher Mellon considers Russian or Chinese technology a possible explanation for the observed UAP, while noting the performance of the vehicles is so extraordinary that it is difficult to imagine terrestrial rivals mastering that technology.

    “Could they be Russian, Chinese, or any other... Conceivably. We're entertaining that possibility, sure. What do you think? The problem with that is that in some cases the performance of these vehicles is so extraordinary, it's so radical, that we don't understand how it's possible even. And so it's difficult for us to imagine how our terrestrial rivals could master that kind of technology.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:08:21.0-00:08:50.3 opinion first hand

  475. 475

    Christopher Mellon considers it necessary to entertain the possibility that the UAP filmed by US fighter pilots are of alien origin, given they appear not to be American, Russian, or Chinese.

    “So, if they're not ours, …if they're probably not Russian or Chinese or any other potential adversaries… …does that mean they're… alien? I think that we have to entertain that possibility.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:09:23.5-00:09:36.1 opinion first hand

  476. 476

    The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program determined that a real phenomenon is present in the sky, though its nature, method of operation, intent, and full capabilities remain unknown.

    “Well, I think it is very clear that our organization determined the reality of something is in our sky. We don't know what it is. We don't know how it works. We have no idea its intent. and only seen some of its capabilities.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:10:36.7-00:10:49.8 testimony first hand

  477. 477

    David Mahler said the US government and military forces engaged in decades-long denials regarding UFOs.

    “When we look at decades-long denials on the part of the US government and military forces with regard to UFOs, they denied, they denied, they denied.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:11:57.4-00:12:06.4 opinion first hand

  478. 478

    David Mahler said there have been successive revelations and statements made by active and retired members of the intelligence community and military, including the release of three Department of Defense videos and acknowledgement that the UAP phenomenon is real.

    “There has been successive revelations, statements made by active and retired members of the intelligence community and military. The release of the three DOD videos and the acknowledgement that the phenomenon is real.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:18:52.2-00:19:06.6 opinion first hand

  479. 479

    Annie recalled that residents of Exmouth, Western Australia, saw an unidentified flying object and that the US military wanted to know what they had seen and wanted it kept quiet.

    “We saw an unidentified flying object and the US military wanted to know what we had seen. They wanted it shut up.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:21:48.9-00:21:56.1 testimony first hand

  480. 480

    Triangular UFO reports typically feature lights that are large circular discs, unlike the small anti-collision lights on conventional aircraft.

    “One of the interesting aspects of these triangular reports are the lights are not little small anti-collision lights like we see with conventional aircraft. They're usually described as large circular disks, if you will.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:31:05.6-00:31:18.5 observation

  481. 481

    There is no known account of a triangular UFO landing, according to the researcher's records.

    “I don't have one account of a triangle landing.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:36:02.7-00:36:04.6 opinion

  482. 482

    There appears to be a strong correlation between nuclear weapons, nuclear storage sites, and UFO sightings.

    “Yes, there seems to be a strong correlation between nuclear weapons, nuclear storage sites and UFOs.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:36:54.2-00:36:59.5 opinion

  483. 483

    Robert Salas believes UFOs are focused on nuclear weapons.

    “No question they are focused on our nuclear weapons.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:37:04.3-00:37:07.5 opinion first hand

  484. 484

    Robert Salas believes UFOs interfering with nuclear weapons are trying to send a message that humans should get rid of their nuclear weapons.

    “And you believe they're trying to send a message? I do. I think the message is get rid of your nuclear weapons.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:37:08.5-00:37:14.9 opinion first hand

  485. 485

    During the 1967 Malmstrom Air Force Base UFO incident, guards at the facility told Robert Salas they saw UFOs hovering above the facility.

    “They saw UFOs. They saw these lights hovering above the facility.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:40:08.1-00:40:11.2 testimony second hand

  486. 486

    The vast majority of triangular UFO reports describe the craft as silent.

    “The vast majority of these triangular reports are silent.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:43:44.3-00:43:46.5 observation

  487. 487

    Some people who have been directly underneath a triangular UFO reported that they would not have known it was there if they had not looked up.

    “There have been people directly underneath one of these that look up, and they say, if I didn't look up, I wouldn't have known it was there.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:43:49.6-00:43:56.3 hearsay

  488. 488

    The Australian government holds thousands of UFO sighting reports going back decades, many of them once classified secret or top secret.

    “The Australian government holds thousands of UFO sightings reports going back decades, many of them once classified secret or top secret.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:45:18.1-00:45:27.9 administrative first hand

  489. 489

    Ross Coulthart says he was told by a person who saw it being prepared that a very secret Australian UFO report exists which is not held in the National Archives, and which he considers perhaps Australia's greatest UFO mystery.

    “But there's one very secret report, which I know exists because I've spoken to someone who saw it being prepared, which isn't in these archives, and it should be. it's perhaps Australia's greatest UFO mystery of all.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:45:47.7-00:46:03.4 hearsay second hand

  490. 490

    According to officials from the Office of the President of the United States, the President of the United States had authorised the establishment of a board of inquiry into unidentified flying objects.

    “The President had authorised the establishment of a board of inquiry or an inquiry to inquire into issues of unidentified flying objects and that they were sending out somebody who I believe turned out to be a Mr...”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:53:49.2-00:54:05.5 hearsay second hand

  491. 491

    James McDonald's aim was to determine whether UFO reports from different countries tallied and whether UFOs constitute a global phenomenon.

    “His aim is to see if the reports tally, in short, whether UFOs constitute a global phenomenon.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 00:54:20.8-00:54:25.9 administrative

  492. 492

    A report on UFOs was expected to be delivered to the United States Congress from the Pentagon in June 2021.

    “We know that sometime this coming month, June, a report comes into the US Congress from the Pentagon, which will supposedly reveal all it knows on UFOs.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 01:06:51.8-01:07:01.7 administrative first hand

  493. 493

    Grant Denyer believes what he saw over Narre Warren was some form of UFO.

    “I believe what I saw was some form of UFO.”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 01:10:26.2-01:10:30.7 opinion first hand

  494. 494

    The United States Department of Defense has publicly acknowledged that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena are real.

    “people saw that the Pentagon, even the US Department of Defense is now admitting this is real”

    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 2021-09-06 01:10:56.5-01:11:01.5 administrative second hand

  495. 495

    The initial contact with the unidentified aerial phenomenon during the 31 July 2022 UAP sighting near Deir ez-Zor occurred at 2022-07-31 02:39Z.

    “**Initial Contact DTG:** 310239:00ZJUL22”

    Misrep-7816710 2022-07-31 char:13017-13047 measurement second hand

  496. 496

    During the 31 July 2022 UAP sighting near Deir ez-Zor, no radio-frequency signatures were recorded from the unidentified aerial phenomenon.

    “**UAP Signatures:** No”

    Misrep-7816710 2022-07-31 char:13491-13509 observation second hand

  497. 497

    The unidentified aerial phenomenon in the 31 July 2022 UAP sighting near Deir ez-Zor was first seen at grid 37SFU2774.

    “**UAP First Seen Location:** 37SFU27{{redacted: ~2 chars, 1.4a}}74{{redacted: ~2 chars, 1.4a}}”

    Misrep-7816710 2022-07-31 char:13659-13747 observation

  498. 498

    During the 31 July 2022 UAP sighting near Deir ez-Zor, the crew observed the unidentified aerial phenomenon event in the vicinity of grid 37SFU2774 in kill-box KP 9.

    “AT 310239Z, {{redacted: ~14 chars, 1.4a}} OBSERVED AN UAP EVENT IVO 37SFU27{{redacted: ~2 chars, 1.4a}}74{{redacted: ~2 chars, 1.4a}} IN KP 9.”

    Misrep-7816710 2022-07-31 char:13964-14104 observation

  499. 499

    The unidentified aerial phenomenon observed during the 31 July 2022 UAP sighting near Deir ez-Zor occurred in less than a minute.

    “THE UAP OCCURED IN LESS THAN A MINUTE”

    Misrep-7816710 2022-07-31 char:14107-14138 observation

  500. 500

    The unidentified aerial phenomenon observed during the 31 July 2022 UAP sighting near Deir ez-Zor moved from north to south.

    “WITH THE UAP MOVING FROM N TO S.”

    Misrep-7816710 2022-07-31 char:14146-14176 observation

  501. 501

    During the 31 July 2022 UAP sighting near Deir ez-Zor, the ISR aircraft observed an unidentified aerial phenomenon in the vicinity of grid 37SFU2774 at 2022-07-31 02:39Z.

    “AT 310239ZJUL22, {{redacted: ~2 chars, 1.4a}} OBSERVED AN UNIDENTIFIED AERIAL PHENOMENON IVO 37SFU27{{redacted: ~2 chars, 1.4a}}74{{redacted: ~2 chars, 1.4a}} (SEE UAP 1).”

    Misrep-7816710 2022-07-31 char:605-773 observation

  502. 502

    The unclassified complaint of David Charles Grusch states that he has direct knowledge that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)-related classified information has been withheld and/or concealed from the United States Congress by "elements" of the intelligence community "to purposely and intentionally thwart legitimate Congressional oversight of the UAP Program."

    “An unclassified version of the complaint provided to us states that Grusch has direct knowledge that UAP-related classified information has been withheld and/or concealed from Congress by “elements” of the intelligence community “to purposely and intentionally thwart legitimate Congressional oversight of the UAP Program.””

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:11364-11678 testimony second hand

  503. 503

    According to the unclassified complaint of David Charles Grusch, in July 2021 he confidentially provided classified information to the Office of Inspector General, Department of Defense, concerning the withholding of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)-related information from the United States Congress.

    “According to the unclassified complaint, in July 2021, Grusch had confidentially provided classified information to the Department of Defense Inspector General concerning the withholding of UAP-related information from Congress.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:11773-11992 testimony second hand

  504. 504

    From late 2021 to July 2022, David Charles Grusch was the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency's co-lead for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) analysis and its representative to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force.

    “From late 2021 to July 2022, he was the NGA’s co-lead for UAP analysis and its representative to the task force.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:1284-1390 administrative

  505. 505

    David Charles Grusch said: "When you have multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional SAP/CAP programs, both as recipients of exploitation-related insights and for operational reasons, without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities, you have a problem," referencing the Special Access Programs (SAP) and Controlled Access Programs (CAP).

    ““When you have multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional SAP/CAP programs, both as recipients of exploitation-related insights and for operational reasons, without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities, you have a problem,” Grusch said, referencing the highly secret Special Access Programs and Controlled Access Programs.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:13757-14101 opinion first hand

  506. 506

    Jonathan Grey, the intelligence officer specialising in Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) analysis at the National Air and Space Intelligence Center, spoke publicly for the first time in this article, identified under the identity he uses inside the agency.

    “Jonathan Grey, the intelligence officer specializing in UAP analysis at the National Air and Space Intelligence Center, is speaking publicly for the first time, identified here under the identity he uses inside the agency.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:14255-14470 administrative

  507. 507

    The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force was established to investigate objects once called unidentified flying objects (UFOs) and now officially called unidentified anomalous phenomena, or UAP.

    “The task force was established to investigate what were once called “unidentified flying objects,” or UFOs, and are now officially called “unidentified anomalous phenomena,” or UAP.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:1541-1718 administrative

  508. 508

    As of 2023, the United States Air Force has been less forthcoming than other agencies with regard to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “It is unusual for an Air Force insider to come forward, as the Air Force has been less forthcoming than other agencies with regard to UAP.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:15583-15671 observation

  509. 509

    Christopher Mellon has been instrumental in arranging classified briefings for members of the United States Congress and other officials about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), which include references to exotic retrieved materials.

    “Mellon, the former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence, has been instrumental in arranging classified briefings for members of Congress and other officials about UAP, which include references to exotic retrieved materials.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:16171-16402 administrative

  510. 510

    Jonathan Grey said high-level, classified briefing materials exist in which real-world scenarios involving Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), as evidenced by historical examples, are made available to intelligence personnel on a need-to-know basis.

    ““High-level, classified briefing materials exist in which real-world scenarios involving UAP, as evidenced by historical examples, are made available to Intelligence Personnel on a need-to-know basis,” he told us.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:17392-17601 opinion first hand

  511. 511

    Jonathan Grey has been the recipient of classified Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) briefings for almost a decade.

    ““I have been the recipient of such briefings for almost a decade.””

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:17606-17663 testimony first hand

  512. 512

    The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023 asks for reporting on "material retrieval, material analysis, reverse engineering, research, and development" involving Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), currently and going back decades.

    “In addition, the legislation asks for reporting on “material retrieval, material analysis, reverse engineering, research, and development” involving unidentified anomalous phenomena currently and going back decades.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:17948-18155 administrative second hand

  513. 513

    The whistleblower legislation forbids any federal employee from retaliating against anyone providing an authorised disclosure about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “To encourage potential witnesses to come forward, the whistleblower legislation forbids any federal employee from retaliating against anyone providing authorized disclosure.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:19281-19443 administrative second hand

  514. 514

    In May 2022, Andre Carson presided over the first open Congressional hearing on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) since 1968.

    “In May 2022, Carson presided over the first open Congressional hearing on UAP since 1968.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:19658-19742 administrative

  515. 515

    Jonathan Grey said that technological advancements may be gleaned from non-human intelligence/UAP retrievals by any sufficiently advanced nation and then used to wage asymmetrical warfare, so some secrecy must remain.

    “technological advancements may be gleaned from non-human intelligence/UAP retrievals by any sufficiently advanced nation and then used to wage asymmetrical warfare, so, therefore, some secrecy must remain," he says.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:20002-20212 opinion first hand

  516. 516

    David Charles Grusch, a former intelligence official turned whistleblower, gave the United States Congress and the Office of the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community (ICIG) extensive classified information about deeply covert programmes that he says possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin.

    “A former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:258-518 testimony first hand

  517. 517

    By June 2023, the United States Congress had held two public hearings and many classified briefings on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “Now, with two public hearings and many classified briefings under its belt, Congress is pressing for answers.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:3749-3850 administrative

  518. 518

    Christopher Mellon has worked with the United States Congress for years on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “has worked with Congress for years on unidentified aerial phenomena.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:4305-4363 administrative

  519. 519

    Jonathan Grey is a generational officer of the United States Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance who currently works for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC), where the analysis of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) has been his focus.

    “Jonathan Grey is a generational officer of the United States Intelligence Community with a Top-Secret Clearance who currently works for the National Air and Space Intelligence Center (NASIC), where the analysis of UAP has been his focus.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:5080-5311 administrative

  520. 520

    David Charles Grusch was the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency's Senior Technical Advisor for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena analysis and Trans-Medium Issues.

    “was the agency’s Senior Technical Advisor for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena analysis/Trans-Medium Issues.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:5843-5941 administrative

  521. 521

    David Charles Grusch prepared many briefs on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) for the United States Congress while in government.

    “Grusch prepared many briefs on unidentified aerial phenomena for Congress while in government”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:7002-7085 administrative

  522. 522

    David Charles Grusch helped draft the language on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) for the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023 (FY2023 NDAA).

    “and helped draft the language on UAP for the FY2023 National Defense Authorization Act”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:7096-7180 administrative

  523. 523

    The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023 provision states that any person with relevant Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) information can inform the United States Congress without retaliation, regardless of any previous non-disclosure agreements.

    “The provision states that any person with relevant UAP information can inform Congress without retaliation, regardless of any previous non-disclosure agreements.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:7415-7565 administrative second hand

  524. 524

    In statements cleared for publication by the Pentagon in April 2023, David Charles Grusch asserted that unidentified flying object (UFO) "legacy programs" have long been concealed within multiple agencies nesting Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) activities in conventional secret access programmes without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities.

    “In his statements cleared for publication by the Pentagon in April, Grusch asserted that UFO “legacy programs” have long been concealed within “multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional secret access programs without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities.””

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:7578-7853 testimony first hand

  525. 525

    David Charles Grusch reported to the United States Congress the existence of a decades-long publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material, a competition with near-peer adversaries to identify Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) crashes and landings and retrieve the material for exploitation and reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defence advantages.

    “He said he reported to Congress on the existence of a decades-long “publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages.””

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:7868-8200 testimony first hand

  526. 526

    David Charles Grusch said: "Individuals on these UAP programs approached me in my official capacity and disclosed their concerns regarding a multitude of wrongdoings, such as illegal contracting against the Federal Acquisition Regulations and other criminality and the suppression of information across a qualified industrial base and academia."

    ““Individuals on these UAP programs approached me in my official capacity and disclosed their concerns regarding a multitude of wrongdoings, such as illegal contracting against the Federal Acquisition Regulations and other criminality and the suppression of information across a qualified industrial base and academia,” he stated.”

    Intelligence Officials Say U.S. Has Retrieved Craft of Non-Human Origin 2023-06-05 char:8990-9311 testimony first hand

  527. 527

    Alex Dietrich told David Fravor that she had been invited to the Pentagon multiple times to discuss the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter and to view other videos of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “Alex stated that she had been invited to the Pentagon multiple times to discuss the event and view other videos of UAPs.”

    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee 2023-07-26 char:5526-5641 testimony second hand

  528. 528

    To The Stars Academy pressed the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue with leading industry experts and United States government officials.

    “It was this organization that pressed the issue with leading Industry experts and USG officials”

    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee 2023-07-26 char:5972-6058 administrative first hand

  529. 529

    The 2017 New York Times UAP articles admitted that the United States government was looking at Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “to publish the articles in the NYT in Dec 2017 admitting the USG was looking at UAPs”

    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee 2023-07-26 char:6130-6210 administrative second hand

  530. 530

    David Fravor considers that elected officials' interest in Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) is focused not on little green men but on determining what the craft are, where they are from, what technology they possess, and how they operate.

    “It has led to an Interest from our elected officials who are not focused on "Little Green men" but on figuring out what these craft are, where are they from, the technology they possess, and how do they operate.”

    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee 2023-07-26 char:6376-6603 opinion first hand

  531. 531

    Increased interest in Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) has led to a whistleblower protection provision in a recent National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA).

    “It has also led to the Whistleblower protection act in the recent NDAA which brings us too today.”

    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee 2023-07-26 char:6612-6703 administrative first hand

  532. 532

    David Fravor thanks the House Oversight Committee for the invitation to speak on the topic of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “I first want to thank you for the invitation to speak to this committee on the UAP topic that has been in the news for the past 6 years and seems to be continuing to gain momentum.”

    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee 2023-07-26 char:83-254 administrative first hand

  533. 533

    Some Members of Congress confided in Tim Burchett that they have had UFO sightings of their own, while wishing to remain anonymous.

    “Some have even confided in me that they have had UFO sightings of their own. Those Members, of course, some of them wish to remain anonymous and I will keep it that way.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:12150-12316 hearsay second hand

  534. 534

    Ryan Graves, David Grusch, and David Fravor all indicated there is some possibility that UAP are collecting reconnaissance information on United States military capabilities.

    “is there any indication that these UAPs could be essentially collecting reconnaissance information? ... Mr. GRAVES. Yes. ... Mr. GRUSCH. Fair assessment. ... Commander FRAVOR. It is very possible.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:128469-128689 opinion

  535. 535

    Ryan Graves, David Grusch, and David Fravor all consider it possible that UAP are probing United States military capabilities.

    “is it possible that these UAPs would be probing our capabilities, yes or no? ... Mr. GRAVES. Yes. ... Mr. GRUSCH. Yes. ... Commander FRAVOR. Definitely.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:128768-128913 opinion

  536. 536

    Ryan Graves, David Grusch, and David Fravor consider it possible that UAP are testing for vulnerabilities in current United States military systems.

    “Is it possible that these UAPs are testing for vulnerabilities in our current systems? ... Mr. GRAVES. Yes. ... Mr. GRUSCH. Yes. ... Commander FRAVOR. Possible.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:128985-129127 opinion

  537. 537

    Ryan Graves, David Grusch, and David Fravor consider it potentially possible that UAP pose an existential threat to United States national security.

    “that these UAPs provide an existential threat to the national security of the United States? ... Mr. GRAVES. Potentially. ... Mr. GRUSCH. Yes, sir, potentially. ... Commander FRAVOR. Same answer, potentially. I would say definitely potentially.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:129236-129472 opinion

  538. 538

    Ryan Graves and David Grusch stated they would have had no capability to defend themselves, their crew, or their aircraft had their UAP encounters become hostile.

    “in the event that your encounters had become hostile would you have—would you have had the capability to defend yourself, your crew, your aircraft? ... Mr. GRAVES. Absolutely not. ... Mr. GRUSCH. No.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:129520-129727 opinion

  539. 539

    Ryan Graves, David Grusch, and David Fravor indicated there is some evidence that UAP are interested in United States nuclear technology and capabilities.

    “is there any indication that these UAPs are interested in our nuclear technology and capabilities? ... Mr. GRAVES. Yes. ... Mr. GRUSCH. By external observation, sure, that could be a fair assessment. Yes. ... Commander FRAVOR. Yes.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:129800-130068 opinion

  540. 540

    David Grusch could not confirm or deny in a public setting whether the Department of Energy is involved in UAP data collection and housing, but said he could address it in a secure setting.

    “Is there any indication the Department of Energy is involved in UAP data collection and housing? ... Mr. GRUSCH. I cannot confirm or deny that in a public setting. ... Could you do it in a secure setting? ... Mr. GRUSCH. Yes.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:130085-130338 testimony first hand

  541. 541

    David Grusch has personal knowledge of someone who was possibly injured working on legacy UAP reverse-engineering.

    “Do you have any personal knowledge of someone who has possibly been injured working on legacy UAP reverse engineering? ... Mr. GRUSCH. Yes.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:131287-131419 testimony first hand

  542. 542

    David Grusch prefers to describe the UAP phenomenon as nonhuman intelligence rather than assuming an extraterrestrial origin, in order to keep an open mind on its specific origin.

    “I think the phenomenon is a very complex and I like to leave an open mind analytically to specific origin.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:133568-133667 opinion first hand

  543. 543

    David Grusch considers the phenomenon's specific origin could be a traditional extraterrestrial origin or something else not fully understood from a biological or astrophysics perspective.

    “If it is a traditional extraterrestrial origin or something else that we do not quite understand from an either biological or astrophysics perspective. I just like to keep an open mind on what it could be.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:133799-134001 opinion first hand

  544. 544

    Article Three of the Agreement on Measures to Reduce the Risk of Outbreak of Nuclear War (1971), a public treaty registered with the United Nations, references UAP.

    “You are referring to actual—a public treaty in the U.N. register—it is funny you mentioned that—the agreement on measures to reduce the risk of outbreak of nuclear war signed in 1971. Unclassified treaty publicly available”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:134419-134632 testimony second hand

  545. 545

    David Grusch attempted to get access to specific incidents when Article Three message traffic related to UAP was used, but encountered a wall of silence at the White House.

    “What I would recommend—and I tried to get access but I got a wall of silence at the White House—was those specific incidents when those—message traffic was used.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:134962-135118 testimony first hand

  546. 546

    Commercial pilots have less sensor range than military pilots, but Ryan Graves says commercial pilots are also seeing UAP, typically at closer range over a wide area.

    “Pilots—commercial pilots have less range and less sensors to be able to reach out and look for objects over wide swaths of airspace. And so pilots are seeing them. Commercial pilots are seeing them and they are typically closer and the range of what they are seeing is pretty large.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:137708-137984 opinion first hand

  547. 547

    Ryan Graves came forward publicly because he felt his fellow pilots did not have a way to mitigate the safety threat posed by UAP encounters and he wanted to help them.

    “I came forward because I felt that my colleagues did not have a way to mitigate the safety threat and I wanted to help them.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:139758-139877 opinion first hand

  548. 548

    One poll found that 68 percent of Americans believe that the government is hiding information about UAP and not being honest about what it knows about them.

    “One poll, in particular, found that 68 percent of Americans believe that the government is hiding information about UAPs and not being honest about what we know about them”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:15402-15569 measurement second hand

  549. 549

    Another poll found that nearly half of Americans believe the Federal Government is doing a very bad or somewhat bad job of dealing with reports of UFO sightings.

    “Another poll found that nearly half of Americans believe that the Federal Government is doing a very bad or somewhat bad job of dealing with reports of UFO sightings.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:15632-15788 measurement second hand

  550. 550

    Over 20 percent of Americans have reported having seen UFOs or UAP.

    “They have also done nothing to calm the concerns of over 20 percent of Americans who have reported to have seen UFOs or UAPs.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:16831-16951 measurement

  551. 551

    Research on unidentified anomalous phenomena has been concealed by the Defense Intelligence Agency.

    “ealed research as we know now on unidentified anomalous phenomena or as many call UFOs by the Defense Intelligence Agency.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:20006-20115 opinion first hand

  552. 552

    The Office of the Director of National Intelligence has published public reports documenting UAP.

    “Now, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence has published public reports documenting UAPs”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:20301-20399 administrative first hand

  553. 553

    On 2022-06-09 NASA announced it was commissioning a study to examine unidentified anomalous phenomena.

    “and on June 9, 2022, NASA announced that the agency is commissioning a study to, of course, examine unidentified anomalous phenomena.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:20404-20527 administrative first hand

  554. 554

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office's initial analysis reported 171 uncharacterised UAP reports that appear to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities.

    “In its initial analysis there are 171 uncharacterized UAP reports—and this is the words from the report—that appear to have demonstrated unusual flight characteristics or performance capabilities.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:28987-29170 administrative second hand

  555. 555

    Ryan Graves has personally experienced advanced UAP.

    “I have experienced advanced UAP firsthand”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:31919-31951 testimony first hand

  556. 556

    UAP sightings by military aircrew and commercial pilots are routine rather than rare or isolated.

    “These sightings are not rare or isolated. They are routine. Military aircrew and commercial pilots, trained observers whose lives depend on accurate identification, are frequently witnessing these phenomena.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:32266-32463 opinion first hand

  557. 557

    The stigma attached to UAP silences commercial pilots who fear professional repercussions and discourages witnesses from reporting.

    “It silences commercial pilots who fear professional repercussions, discourages witnesses, and is only compounded by recent government claims questioning the credibility of eyewitness testimony.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:32557-32740 opinion first hand

  558. 558

    Since 2021 all UAP videos have been classified as secret or above.

    “Since 2021 all UAP videos are classified as secret or above.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:32891-32945 administrative first hand

  559. 559

    During a training mission in Warning Area W-72, approximately 16 kilometres off the coast of Virginia Beach, two F/A-18F Super Hornets were split apart by a UAP.

    “During a training mission in Warning Area W–72, 10 miles off the coast of Virginia Beach, two F–18 Super Hornets were split by a UAP.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:33491-33620 observation first hand

  560. 560

    The UAP that split the two F/A-18F Super Hornets was described as a dark grey or black cube inside a clear sphere.

    “The object, described as a dark gray or a black cube inside of a clear sphere”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:33625-33696 observation first hand

  561. 561

    The cube-in-sphere UAP came within approximately 15 metres of the lead aircraft.

    “came within 50 feet of the lead aircraft”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:33704-33736 measurement first hand

  562. 562

    The cube-in-sphere UAP was estimated to be approximately 1.5 to 4.5 metres in diameter.

    “was estimated to be five to 15 feet in diameter”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:33749-33788 measurement first hand

  563. 563

    UAP encounters became so frequent for Ryan Graves' squadron that aircrew would discuss the risk of UAP as part of their regular preflight briefs.

    “Soon these encounters became so frequent that aircrew would discuss the risk of UAP as part of their regular preflight briefs.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:34076-34195 observation first hand

  564. 564

    Pilots have reported UAP at altitudes appearing above approximately 12,000 metres, potentially in low Earth orbit or in the gray zone below the common line.

    “Pilots are reporting UAP at altitudes that appear above them at 40,000 feet, potentially in low Earth orbit or in the gray zone below the common line”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:34690-34835 observation first hand

  565. 565

    Pilots have reported UAP making unexplainable manoeuvres such as right-hand turns and retrograde orbits, known as J hooks.

    “making unexplainable maneuvers like right hand turns and retrograde orbits, or J hooks.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:34841-34922 observation first hand

  566. 566

    Numerous recent UAP sightings have recurred north of Hawaii and in the North Atlantic.

    “Sometimes these reports are reoccurring with numerous recent sightings north of Hawaii and in the North Atlantic.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:34930-35034 observation first hand

  567. 567

    Ryan Graves considers the most compelling UAP accounts brought to Americans for Safe Aerospace to be those involving observations by multiple witnesses and sensor systems.

    “The most compelling involve observations of UAP by multiple witnesses and sensor systems.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:35142-35223 opinion first hand

  568. 568

    Ryan Graves considers UAP a national security problem if they are foreign drones, or a scientific issue if they are something else, and in either case a concern for flight safety.

    “If UAP are foreign drones, is an urgent national security problem. If it is something else, it is an issue for science. In either case, unidentified objects are a concern for flight safety.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:35614-35796 opinion first hand

  569. 569

    David Grusch's PPD-19 filing followed reports from multiple credentialed current and former military and intelligence community individuals that the U.S. Government is operating with secrecy above congressional oversight regarding UAP.

    “following concerning reports from multiple esteemed and credentialed current and former military and intelligence community individuals that the U.S. Government is operating with secrecy above congressional oversight with regards to UAPs.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:37008-37241 hearsay second hand

  570. 570

    David Grusch was informed in the course of his official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering programme, to which he was denied further access when he requested it.

    “I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program to which I was denied access to those additional read-ons when I requested it.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:39078-39274 hearsay second hand

  571. 571

    The 2017 New York Times UAP report removed the stigma on the topic of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO).

    “it removed the stigma on the topic of UFOs”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:44620-44658 opinion first hand

  572. 572

    Ryan Graves believes that military witnesses to UAP currently have limited options for reporting encounters.

    “Right now, military witnesses to UAP have limited options for reporting UAP.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:46737-46809 opinion first hand

  573. 573

    The Department of Defense (DoD) has stated that UAP represent a critical aviation safety risk.

    “The military and Department of Defense has stated that UAP represent a critical aviation safety risk.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:46936-47032 administrative second hand

  574. 574

    In 1966, Gerald Ford claimed to have seen a UFO.

    “I also want to point out in 1966, President Gerald Ford claimed to have seen a UFO”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:7294-7373 testimony second hand

  575. 575

    In 1969 in Georgia, Jimmy Carter claimed to have seen a UFO.

    “and in 1969 in Georgia, Jimmy Carter claimed to have seen a UFO”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:7378-7438 testimony second hand

  576. 576

    The National Aeronautics and Space Administration was leading an independent study on UAP as of 2023, to identify how UAP data is gathered from both civilian and government entities.

    “In addition to AARO's efforts, NASA is leading an independent study on UAPs to identify how UAP data is gathered from both civilian and government entities that can be analyzed to shed light on the topic.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:7844-8042 administrative first hand

  577. 577

    David Grusch personally reviewed multiple cases of satellite imagery of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) related events while working at the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency (NGA).

    “I have seen multiple cases, some of which to my understanding—and, of course, I left NGA in April so that is my information cutoff date. But I personally review both what we call overhead collection and from other strategic and tactical platforms”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:80803-81041 testimony first hand

  578. 578

    David Grusch cannot discuss in an open session whether satellite imagery he reviewed applies to Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) crash sites.

    “Mr. GRUSCH. I cannot discuss that in an open session.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:81408-81453 testimony first hand

  579. 579

    David Grusch's sworn testimony states that the U.S. Government has retrieved supposedly extraterrestrial spacecraft and other UAP-related artefacts.

    “Mr. Grusch, in your sworn testimony you state that the U.S. Government has retrieved supposedly extraterrestrial spacecraft and other UAP-related artifacts.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:81998-82144 testimony first hand

  580. 580

    In 2022, NASA announced that it was commissioning an independent study team to examine Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “In 2022, NASA announced that it was commissioning an independent study team to examine UAPs.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:84780-84867 administrative second hand

  581. 581

    NASA's independent study team on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) is comprised of scientists across different fields as well as former astronauts and pilots.

    “The NASA team is comprised of scientists across different fields as well as former astronauts and pilots.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:84873-84971 administrative

  582. 582

    Between the shooting down of the Chinese spy balloon and two subsequent UAP objects shot down in early 2023, the U.S. Government spent 1.5 million US dollars in taxpayer funds on missiles.

    “Between the Chinese balloon being shot down and two UAPs subsequently shot down following the event earlier this year the U.S. Government spent $1.5 million in taxpayer dollars on missiles.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:8530-8710 measurement first hand

  583. 583

    Ryan Graves recommends utilising the existing Aviation Safety Reporting System (ASRS) as a short-term trusted platform for pilots to report Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “One of the recommendations that have been put forward is to utilize their existing Aviation Safety Reporting System to serve as a short-term fill and trusted platform for pilots that want to report on UAP.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:85577-85778 opinion first hand

  584. 584

    In 2020, the Department of Defense released several videos of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), including footage from David Fravor's experience recorded by U.S. Navy pilots.

    “You know, in 2020 the Department of Defense released several videos of UAPs including Mr. Fravor's experience, U.S. Navy pilots that recorded footage.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:86492-86634 administrative second hand

  585. 585

    In 2021, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) released a preliminary report on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) events.

    “In 2021, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a preliminary report on UAP events.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:86643-86741 administrative second hand

  586. 586

    NASA Administrator Bill Nelson stated that NASA would begin to investigate Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) events.

    “NASA Administrator Bill Nelson stated that NASA would begin to investigate these events.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:86750-86831 administrative second hand

  587. 587

    During a hearing of the United States House Committee on Science, Space, and Technology, Maxwell Frost asked Bill Nelson why NASA needed to be fully funded, and Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) was cited as one of the reasons.

    “when we were doing a hearing with the NASA Administrator, Bill Nelson, I asked, you know, why NASA needed to be fully funded. And there were many great reasons, but one of them was actually—had to do with UAPs.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:86905-87111 testimony first hand

  588. 588

    These developments ultimately led NASA to assemble the independent study team on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “either way these actions ultimately led NASA to assemble the independent study team that I mentioned earlier.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:87198-87335 administrative first hand

  589. 589

    In 2021, Harvard University stood up the Galileo Project to research and examine the origins of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “Also, in 2021 Harvard University stood up the Galileo Project to research and examine the origins of UAP.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:87362-87463 administrative second hand

  590. 590

    David Fravor believes that military pilots feeling empowered to share their Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) experiences has directly impacted the scientific community's research goals on the topic.

    “Commander FRAVOR. I would say yes.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:87866-87896 opinion first hand

  591. 591

    Starting in 2017, when the topic of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) publicly came out, the stigma around discussing it began to lift.

    “I would say that, you know, starting in 2017 when it actually came out, it took that stigma away.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:87901-87993 opinion first hand

  592. 592

    David Fravor has talked to multiple Senators who told him that, prior to 2017, mentioning Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) would have gotten someone laughed off Capitol Hill.

    “I mean, I have talked to multiple Senators who said prior to that if you would have mentioned UAP, you would have been laughed off the Hill and now we are sitting here today for a public testimony on what is actually going on.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:87999-88222 hearsay second hand

  593. 593

    David Fravor hopes that public willingness to discuss Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) will continue to grow, becoming more transparent over time.

    “You know, I am hoping that this curve will be more of an exponential and we will get more and more transparent to the level that we can.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:88226-88358 opinion first hand

  594. 594

    Ryan Graves considers the study of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) to ultimately be a scientific and engineering problem, as much as a national security problem.

    “Absolutely. I think, ultimately, this is going to be a scientific problem, and not only that, it is also an engineering problem. ... And so, yes, very much I think this is an engineering and scientific problem as much as a national security problem.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:88806-89119 opinion first hand

  595. 595

    Ryan Graves has been working with the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) to help establish a UAP Integration Committee to bring engineering expertise to the study of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “I have been working with the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics to help them stand up a UAP integration committee to help integrate their engineering prowess into this problem.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:88935-89119 testimony first hand

  596. 596

    Ryan Graves believes there is a growing pool of interested capabilities and talent seeking to approach the topic of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “I think that there is a pseudo market, if you will, of interested capabilities and talent that want to approach this topic and we are seeing that start to grow now.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:89546-89706 opinion first hand

  597. 597

    David Grusch is not aware of defence contractors being required to issue any disclosure regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) sightings or engaging in any related reporting.

    “Mr. GRUSCH. In terms of the contractors? Not that I am aware of.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:97566-97627 testimony first hand

  598. 598

    Ryan Graves considers it a main concern that the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) currently does not have an official process to receive reports of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) from pilots or others.

    “Mr. Graves, one of your main concerns that the FAA currently does not have an official process to receive reports of UAP from pilots or others, correct? Mr. GRAVES. Correct.”

    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency 2023-07-26 char:99394-99560 opinion first hand

  599. 599

    Operation Moon Dust involved retrieval of 'foreign technology' from other countries and also specifically sought Unidentified Flying Objects and 'flying saucers'.

    “Operation Moon Dust definitely involved retrieval of 'foreign technology' from other countries, but it also specifically sought 'Unidentified Flying Objects' and 'flying saucers'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:1970-2140 administrative second hand

  600. 600

    A senior Australian military intelligence insider, in a conversation with Ross Coulthart, said Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are still frequently observed over sensitive Australian military facilities, including unexplained sightings recorded over the Joint Defence Facility Pine Gap.

    “One senior Australian military intelligence insider told me UAPs are still frequently observed over sensitive military facilities, including unexplained sightings recorded over the super-secret Pine Gap US/Australian base 18 kilometres south-west of Alice Springs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:20870-21126 hearsay second hand

  601. 601

    Several agencies within the US government have been among those most active in seeking to shut down public interest in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon.

    “What we can be sure of is that among those most active in seeking to shut down public interest in the phenomenon are several three-letter agencies within the US government.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:21636-21823 opinion first hand

  602. 602

    By the time of the Condon Report, Project Blue Book's air force investigations into Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) were publicly perceived as seriously compromised by a debunking agenda.

    “The irony was that Project Blue Book’s air force investigations into UAPs were by now publicly perceived as so seriously compromised by a debunking agenda that Dr Edward Condon and his team of scientists had been recruited by the air force to do an objective and independent investigation.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:22515-22790 opinion

  603. 603

    The 1968 Condon Report concluded that further study of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) could not be justified.

    “Condon rejected the extra-terrestrial hypothesis for UAPs and concluded that further study of them could not be justified.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:23018-23130 administrative second hand

  604. 604

    The 1968 Condon Report rejected the extra-terrestrial hypothesis for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “Condon rejected the extra-terrestrial hypothesis for UAPs and concluded that further study of them could not be justified.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:23018-23130 administrative second hand

  605. 605

    J. Allen Hynek, a Project Blue Book consultant, said the termination of Project Blue Book was the coup de grace to the UFO era, and that science had spoken, meaning UFOs didn't exist and the thousands of people who had reported strange sightings could all be discounted as deluded, hoaxers, or mentally unbalanced.

    “Blue Book consultant Dr J. Allen Hynek lamented, ‘this was indeed the coup de grace to the UFO era. Science had spoken. UFOs didn’t exist, and the thousands of people who had reported strange sightings . . . could all be discounted as deluded, hoaxers, or mentally unbalanced’.22”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:23747-24024 opinion first hand

  606. 606

    Ross Coulthart finds it difficult to escape the impression that the true purpose of Project Blue Book and the Condon Report was to shut down public interest in and scrutiny of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings.

    “It is difficult to escape the impression that Project Blue Book and the Condon Report’s true purpose was an attempt to shut down public interest in and the scrutiny of UAP sightings.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:24028-24200 opinion first hand

  607. 607

    The 1985 United States Air Force summary of Project Blue Book's conclusions told the public that nothing had happened to indicate that the air force ought to resume investigating UFOs.

    “The public was told in the air force’s 1985 summary of Blue Book’s conclusions that ‘nothing has happened to indicate that the air force ought to resume investigating UFOs’.23”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:24211-24384 administrative second hand

  608. 608

    Reports in which Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) affected national security were routinely withheld from Project Blue Book's scrutiny.

    “We know now that reports where UAPs did indeed affect national security were routinely withheld from Project Blue Book’s scrutiny.24”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:24418-24548 administrative

  609. 609

    Secret official investigations into Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) have never actually stopped.

    “Moreover, secret official investigations into UAPs have never actually stopped.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:24551-24622 opinion first hand

  610. 610

    Ross Coulthart considers Robert Jacobs' account, corroborated by his former commanding officer, suggestive of a coordinated effort inside the US government to suppress public awareness of UAP interactions with the military.

    “Jacobs' corroborated account suggests strongly that there was a coordinated effort inside the US government to suppress public awareness of UAP interactions with the military.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:7528-7694 opinion first hand

  611. 611

    The US government publicly dismissed UAP as no threat to national security while privately taking an extraordinary interest in the phenomenon and deploying substantial resources to investigate it.

    “While publicly dismissing UAPs as no threat to national security and hastily rejecting as many sightings as possible with prosaic explanations, in private, the US government was taking an extraordinary interest in the phenomenon and deploying substantial resources to investigate it.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch10:94-374 opinion first hand

  612. 612

    Harry Turner was privately pushing at the highest levels of Australia's Defence Department for a scientific military investigation into the UAP phenomenon while sightings were being played down in the media and by the air force.

    “Turner was privately pushing at the very highest levels of Australia's Defence Department for a scientific investigation by the military into the UAP phenomenon.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:1114-1264 observation

  613. 613

    Bill Lynn's son recalled his father always stated the vision of the object was so clear, and that his father was grateful someone else could verify his story to some degree.

    “He always stated to me the vision was so clear. The experience convinced him to believe in UFOs and he was so grateful that someone else could, at least to some degree, verify his story.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:11218-11398 hearsay third hand

  614. 614

    Harry Turner's declassified 1971 paper 'Scientific and Intelligence Aspects of the UFO Problem' asserted that unidentified objects were real.

    “His now declassified 1971 paper, *Scientific and Intelligence Aspects of the UFO Problem*, asserted not only that these unidentified objects were real”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:1276-1449 testimony second hand

  615. 615

    An NSA official was compelled under deposition to admit that 239 UFO-related documents were held in the agency's files.

    “An NSA official was compelled under deposition to admit that 239 UFO-related documents were held in the agency's files, including one describing 'a purported UFO sighting' in 1973”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:12925-13100 testimony second hand

  616. 616

    One of the 239 UFO-related documents held in the NSA's files described a purported UFO sighting in 1973, though any mention of where it occurred was heavily redacted.

    “including one describing 'a purported UFO sighting' in 1973; however, any mention of where this 'UFO sighting' occurred was heavily redacted.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:13045-13177 administrative second hand

  617. 617

    As with Annie Farinaccio's experience in 1991, the clear suspicion is that any UAP incident over a sensitive US facility, especially one connected to nuclear weapons like the Harold Holt base, is swept under the carpet and ignored.

    “As with Annie Farinaccio's experience in 1991, the clear suspicion is that any UAP incident over a sensitive US facility, especially one connected to nuclear weapons like the Harold Holt base, is swept under the carpet and ignored.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:13188-13411 opinion

  618. 618

    There is a clear link between UAP sightings and sensitive military sites in Australia, especially those with links to the US's nuclear missile deterrence strategy, as in the United States.

    “As in the United States, there is a clear link between UAP sightings and sensitive military sites in Australia, especially those with links to the US's nuclear missile deterrence strategy.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:13447-13626 opinion

  619. 619

    Harry Turner's 1971 report asserted there was an ongoing deliberate official US policy to ridicule UFO sighting events in order to stifle public awareness of the phenomenon.

    “that there was also an ongoing deliberate official US policy to ridicule sighting events in order to stifle public awareness of the phenomenon.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:1459-1591 opinion second hand

  620. 620

    Grant Cameron's search of Jimmy Carter's Presidential Library archives revealed Carter had an extremely high interest in UFOs during his administration, but his efforts to disclose them were stymied.

    “told me his search of President Carter's Presidential Library archives revealed Carter had 'an extremely high interest in UFOs during his administration, but it looks like he hit a brick wall because his efforts were stymied'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:14719-14936 testimony second hand

  621. 621

    Jimmy Carter promised American voters during his campaign that if he became president he would release any US government UFO files.

    “he promised American voters that if he became president he would release any US government UFO files.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:15100-15195 testimony first hand

  622. 622

    According to Daniel Sheehan, CIA Director George Herbert Walker Bush flatly refused to give president-elect Jimmy Carter a briefing on UFOs, telling him he had no 'need to know'.

    “but the CIA Director flatly refused to give the president-elect a briefing on UFOs telling Carter he had no 'need to know'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:15437-15554 hearsay second hand

  623. 623

    Marcia Smith asked Daniel Sheehan if he could seek Vatican approval for access to its allegedly extensive archives on UAPs.

    “Marcia Smith began by asking Daniel Sheehan if he could seek Vatican approval for access to its allegedly extensive archives on UAPs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:15919-16047 testimony first hand

  624. 624

    Harry Turner considered that by erecting a facade of ridicule, the US hoped to allay public alarm, reduce the possibility of the Soviets exploiting UFO mass sightings for psychological or actual warfare purposes, and cover for a real US programme developing vehicles that emulate UFO performance.

    “'By erecting a façade of ridicule, the US hoped to allay public alarm, reduce the possibility of the Soviets taking advantage of UFO mass sightings for either psychological or actual warfare purposes, and act as a cover for the real US programme of developing vehicles that emulate UFO performance,' Turner declared.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:1605-1911 opinion second hand

  625. 625

    The Vatican declined Daniel Sheehan's request for access to its archives on UAPs.

    “The Vatican declined Sheehan's request, but Marcia Smith came back a few weeks later and asked if, as a Jesuit representative, Sheehan would accompany some of the NASA astronauts on a lobbying tour of Congress to push for the reinstatement of full funding for the SETI program.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:16853-17122 testimony first hand

  626. 626

    Daniel Sheehan was aware of allegations that the most important UAP sightings reports had been withheld from Project Blue Book, and told Marcia Smith he wanted to see the classified portions of Blue Book.

    “He was aware of allegations that the most important UAP sightings reports had been withheld from Blue Book and so he told Marcia Smith he wanted to see 'the classified portions of Blue Book'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:17952-18137 testimony first hand

  627. 627

    Daniel Sheehan's account suggests a US president was denied information on the UAP issue by the Central Intelligence Agency.

    “the especially troubling concern arising from Sheehan’s account is that it suggests a US president was denied information on the UAP issue by the Central Intelligence Agency”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:21815-21982 opinion

  628. 628

    The 2001 Disclosure Project National Press Club event, where witnesses attested to a UFO cover-up, is also known as the Disclosure Project.

    “attesting to a ‘UFO cover-up’, an event known as The Disclosure Project”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:22353-22417 administrative

  629. 629

    Daniel Sheehan believes that, 20 years after the 2001 Disclosure Project event, the public is being prepared for a sanitised government admission to some of what it has been concealing about UAP.

    “Sheehan adamantly believes that, 20 years later, the public is now being prepared for a sanitised government admission to some of what it has been concealing about UAPs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:22426-22590 opinion first hand

  630. 630

    It has never been revealed what President Jimmy Carter or any other US president was told, if anything, about the UAP phenomenon.

    “It has never been revealed just what President Carter or any other president was told, if anything, about the UAP phenomenon.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:24955-25069 observation

  631. 631

    Daniel Sheehan told the author of In Plain Sight that in 1977 the CIA Director flatly refused President Jimmy Carter a briefing on UAPs, and what the president was subsequently told in briefing documents did not reveal what Sheehan discovered.

    “that attorney Dan Sheehan told me he witnessed in 1977 – that the CIA Director flatly refused the president a briefing and, moreover, what the president was subsequently told in briefing documents did not reveal what Sheehan discovered”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:25712-25932 testimony first hand

  632. 632

    In July 1977, President Jimmy Carter's science adviser Frank Press asked the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) to consider investigating public inquiries concerning UFOs.

    “The same thing occurred in July 1977 when the US’s National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) was asked by President Carter’s science adviser Dr Frank Press to consider investigating public ‘inquiries concerning UFOs’.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:26304-26526 administrative

  633. 633

    In December 1977, NASA administrator Robert Frosch responded to the White House request by proposing that NASA take no steps to establish a research activity into UFOs or to convene a symposium on the subject.

    “In December 1977, NASA’s administrator Dr Robert Frosch responded with a remarkable rejection of the White House request, proposing instead that ‘NASA take no steps to establish a research activity in this area [UFOs] or to convene a symposium on the subject’.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:26535-26786 administrative second hand

  634. 634

    Harry Turner said many intelligence officers associated with the UFO problem, including former CIA director Roscoe Hillenkoetter, had stated that the US government knew UFOs were extra-terrestrial but was withholding this fact from the public.

    “'Many intelligence officers associated with the UFO problem,' he said, including former CIA boss Admiral Hillenkoetter, had 'stated that the US government knew UFOs were extra-terrestrial but was withholding this fact from the public'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:2703-2929 hearsay second hand

  635. 635

    Harry Turner obtained access to the Australian Air Force's UAP sightings reports.

    “Harry Turner obtained access to the Australian Air Force's UAP sightings reports.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:3211-3284 administrative

  636. 636

    Harry Turner proposed an Australian 'rapid intervention team' to investigate UFO events, for which an aircraft was to be on standby.

    “He even proposed an Australian 'rapid intervention team' to investigate 'UFO' events, for which an aircraft was to be on standby.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:3293-3440 administrative

  637. 637

    By 1971, Australian Defence Department scientist Harry Turner was firmly convinced the UAP phenomenon was real and required urgent investigation.

    “By 1971, Australian Defence Department scientist Harry Turner, whose curiosity had been piqued by the mysterious UAPs seen at Maralinga in the South Australian desert 11 years earlier, was now firmly convinced the phenomenon was real and required urgent investigation.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch11:384-638 observation

  638. 638

    Official investigations into UAP were widely believed to have been shut down in the United States and most other western allied nations, including Australia, in the wake of Project Blue Book.

    “While the public was assured, in the wake of Project Blue Book, that official investigations into UAPs had supposedly been shut down in the United States and most other western allied nations, including Australia, declassified archives tell a different story.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch12:103-356 administrative

  639. 639

    Ross Coulthart has spoken to many civilian and military pilots who said they would never report UAP sightings for fear of jeopardising their careers.

    “this author has spoken to many civilian and military pilots who said they would never report UAP sightings for fear of jeopardising their careers.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch12:17722-17860 testimony first hand

  640. 640

    As the Soviet Union collapsed and old Cold War secrets began to leak out, it emerged that the communists frequently saw UAP incursions over sensitive nuclear and other military facilities identical to those observed in the West.

    “As the Soviet Union collapsed and old Cold War secrets began to leak out, it emerged that the communists frequently saw UAP incursions over sensitive nuclear and other military facilities identical to those observed in the West.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch12:18160-18383 administrative

  641. 641

    In 1978, concerned scientists from the Soviet Academy of Sciences asked the Kremlin to support a UAP research program.

    “In 1978, concerned scientists from the Soviet Academy of Sciences had asked the Kremlin to support a UAP research program.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch12:18390-18504 administrative

  642. 642

    Dual civilian and military Soviet UAP investigations programs went on for 13 years and collected thousands of UAP sighting reports.

    “Dual civilian and military Soviet UAP investigations programs went on for 13 years and collected thousands of UAP sightings reports.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch12:19351-19475 administrative

  643. 643

    In the Project Condign files, Boris Sokolov reported there were 40 cases in which Soviet pilots encountered UFOs, were commanded to first chase and then shoot at them, and in which the UFO would speed up causing the pursuing Soviet aircraft to lose control and crash, with three such crashes occurring and two pilots dying.

    “He said there were 40 reported cases where, 'Pilots encountered UFOs. Initially they were commanded to chase, then shoot. When our pilots would engage the UFO, it would speed up, our aircraft would give chase loose [sic] control and crash. That happened three times and twice the pilots died.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch12:20382-20669 testimony second hand

  644. 644

    Declassified archives show the United States took a close interest in UAP sightings throughout the 1970s, with numerous unexplained sightings becoming the focus of intense official investigations, including a dramatic incident in New Zealand.

    “The US in particular was taking a very close interest in sightings and throughout the 1970s there were a plethora of perplexing unexplained sightings that became the focus of intense official investigations, including one dramatic incident in New Zealand.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch12:363-610 administrative

  645. 645

    When Bill Clinton became president in 1993, he asked questions about UAPs, just as Jimmy Carter had done in 1977.

    “When Bill Clinton became president in 1993, he asked questions about UAPs, just as Jimmy Carter had done in 1977.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:104-212 administrative

  646. 646

    The leaked document referenced codenames including 'ROYAL Ops, COSMIC Ops, MAJ Ops, MAJI Ops', which thrilled the world of UAP research because COSMIC and MAJ have long been rumoured to be the holy grail of UFO-related codenames.

    “But its reference to codenames including 'ROYAL Ops, COSMIC Ops, MAJ Ops, MAJI Ops' thrilled the world of UAP research because COSMIC and MAJ have long been rumoured to be the holy grail of UFO-related codenames.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:12494-12696 administrative second hand

  647. 647

    The alleged UAP-UFO cover-up laid out by Steven Greer, Edgar Mitchell and Willard Miller is supposedly so secret that even the second-highest official in the Defense Intelligence Agency was not permitted to know about it.

    “Whatever this program was (or is), the alleged UAP-UFO cover-up laid out by Greer, Ed Mitchell and Commander Miller is supposedly so secret that even the second-highest official in the Defence Intelligence Agency was not permitted to know about it.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:13442-13714 hearsay second hand

  648. 648

    On entering the White House in 1993, both Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton took a strong interest in UAPs.

    “What is known is that, on entering the White House in 1993, both Bill and Hillary Clinton took a strong interest in UAPs”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:1424-1540 administrative

  649. 649

    Willard Miller claimed that just before they left the April 1997 meeting, an aide to Admiral Thomas Wilson made the admission that the UAP conspiracy theory called Majestic MJ-12 was actually real.

    “He even claimed that, just before they left the meeting, an aide to the admiral made the extraordinary admission that a long-held (and much debunked) UAP conspiracy theory called Majestic MJ-12 was actually real.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:15247-15454 hearsay second hand

  650. 650

    After lobbying from billionaire businessman and UAP believer Laurance Rockefeller, President Bill Clinton ordered his new CIA Director James Woolsey to release more of the files on UAPs.

    “after lobbying from billionaire businessman and UAP believer Laurance Rockefeller, the president ordered his new CIA Director James Woolsey to release more of the files on the subject.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:1550-1726 administrative

  651. 651

    Ross Coulthart considers it remarkable that Steven Greer achieved being invited to brief top Defense Intelligence Agency officials on UAPs on at least two occasions, but considers that the claim both a senior admiral and a general confirmed belief in a UFO cover-up at their first meeting strains credibility for many who hear it.

    “It is remarkable that Greer achieved the extraordinary feat of being invited to brief top Defence Intelligence Agency officials on UAPs on at least two occasions, but the claim that both a senior admiral and a general confirmed at their first meeting with him that they both believed in a 'UFO cover-up' strains credibility for many who hear it.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:18973-19315 opinion first hand

  652. 652

    Bill Clinton's Associate Attorney General Webster Hubbell claimed he was asked by the president to find out all he could about who killed John F. Kennedy and whether UFOs are real.

    “Clinton's Associate Attorney General Webster Hubbell claimed he was asked by the president to find out all he could about two things. '"One, who killed JFK? And, two, are there UFOs?" He was dead serious,' Hubbell claimed.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:218-432 testimony first hand

  653. 653

    Ross Coulthart believes the historical evidence supports the suggestion that there have been numerous US government attempts to suppress and, on occasion, cover up UAP incidents, especially when the witnesses were military or civilian pilots.

    “In my view, the historical evidence supports the suggestion there have indeed been numerous US government attempts to suppress – and on occasion, to cover up – UAP incidents, especially when the witnesses were military or civilian pilots.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:24910-25141 opinion first hand

  654. 654

    Ross Coulthart is convinced that someone senior in the US military has been trying to cover up UAP sightings.

    “I am left in no doubt that someone senior in the US military has been trying to cover up sightings”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:25609-25698 opinion first hand

  655. 655

    Ross Coulthart is inclined to believe that governments cover up UAP sightings because they do not like admitting there is a superior technology operating in their airspace with capabilities far beyond known human science, which he finds embarrassing to them.

    “maybe governments simply do not like having to admit there is a superior technology operating in their airspace displaying capabilities far beyond known human science. It is embarrassing.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:25959-26133 opinion first hand

  656. 656

    John Podesta told a Washington National Press Club press conference that he thought it was time to open the books on questions that have remained in the dark regarding government investigations of UFOs, to find out the truth, because the American people can handle the truth and because it is the law.

    “‘I think it’s time to open the books on questions that have remained in the dark on the question of government investigations of UFOs. It’s time to find out what the truth really is that’s out there. We ought to do it really because it’s right. We ought to do it because the American people, quite frankly, can handle the truth. And we ought to do it because it’s the law.’”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:26699-27066 opinion first hand

  657. 657

    In 1992, Steven Greer created the Disclosure Project, which advocates for the release of UAP secrets he believes are hidden within the US government and in aerospace corporations.

    “Two years later, Greer created the Disclosure Project, which advocates for the release of UAP secrets he believes are hidden within the US government and in aerospace corporations.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:3132-3299 administrative

  658. 658

    Steven Greer says he has personally briefed presidents and a CIA Director about the 'UFO reality'.

    “Dr Greer says he has personally briefed presidents and a CIA Director about the 'UFO reality'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:3341-3426 testimony first hand

  659. 659

    John Petersen told Ross Coulthart that James Woolsey, a friend of his, had a passing interest in the subject of UFOs, limited to having seen a non-moving light above a lake at some point and wondering if it had been some sort of non-human vehicle.

    “Petersen told me that Jim Woolsey, a friend, 'had a passing interest in the subject of UFOs – limited to having seen a non-moving light above a lake at some point and wondering if it had been some sort of non-human vehicle'.7”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:4572-4796 testimony second hand

  660. 660

    John Petersen visited James Woolsey at his office after Woolsey became Director of the CIA and raised that there were a lot of highly redacted documents that the UFO community thought might relate to government knowledge of 'alien stuff'.

    “He also said that when Woolsey became Director of the CIA, Petersen visited him at his office and raised with him 'that there were a lot of highly redacted documents that the UFO community thought might relate to government knowledge of "alien stuff"'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:4798-5042 testimony first hand

  661. 661

    James Woolsey told John Petersen to get the details of the 20 most significant redacted documents, offering to check if the redacted parts had anything to do with UFOs.

    “He said Woolsey told him to get the details of the 20 most significant redacted documents, offering to check if the redacted parts had anything to do with UFOs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:5051-5206 testimony first hand

  662. 662

    John Petersen said, 'He was not offering to tell me any secrets, rather to just confirm or deny generally that the subject documents had anything to do with the UFO subject.'

    “'He was not offering to tell me any secrets, rather to just confirm or deny generally that the subject documents had anything to do with the UFO subject,' Petersen told me.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:5213-5408 testimony first hand

  663. 663

    James Woolsey read the list of redacted documents and came back saying they didn't have anything to do with UFOs.

    “Woolsey read them and came back to them saying they didn't have anything to do with UFOs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:5503-5587 testimony first hand

  664. 664

    John Petersen flatly denied claims that the CIA boss reached out to Steven Greer for a briefing or that James Woolsey requested the 1993 dinner meeting.

    “Petersen flatly denied claims that the CIA boss reached out to Greer for a briefing or that Woolsey requested the meeting. 'There was no "cover story" and no "briefing" had been requested. It was simply a social function where it was presumed that the subject of UFOs would be discussed,' Petersen says.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:5593-5891 testimony first hand

  665. 665

    Steven Greer has claimed that dark forces were trying to kill him or his colleagues.

    “Greer has sometimes been the butt of ridicule for his melodramatic claims about the alleged 'UFO cover-up', asserting that dark forces were trying to kill him or his colleagues.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:5898-6064 hearsay second hand

  666. 666

    Steven Greer has claimed that when he sent a briefing document to Bill Clinton, a response came back that the president couldn't get anywhere with UFOs and didn't want to push on the issue because a very good friend of his came to his home and said he would end up assassinated like John F. Kennedy.

    “Greer has claimed that when he sent a briefing document to President Clinton a response came back that the president 'couldn't get anywhere with [UFOs] and didn't want to push on the issue because a very good friend of his came to his home and said he would end up assassinated like Jack Kennedy.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:6076-6364 hearsay second hand

  667. 667

    Ross Coulthart considers it possible that, assuming Steven Greer's account of his meeting with James Woolsey was correct, the CIA Director was genuinely motivated to hear and investigate Greer's claims of a UAP cover-up.

    “Assuming that Greer's account of his meeting with Woolsey was correct, it suggests the CIA Director was genuinely motivated to hear and investigate Greer's claims of a UAP cover-up, which begs the question why Greer publicly exposed his potential source.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:7500-7747 opinion first hand

  668. 668

    A more sensational claim has been attributed to Webster Hubbell, that he allegedly discovered a secret government program sitting on UFO secrets to which even the president did not have access, but no such claim appears in Hubbell's book or in any media interviews quoting him.

    “A more sensational claim has since been attributed to Hubbell – that he allegedly discovered a secret government program that was sitting on UFO secrets to which even the president did not have access,2 but such a claim does not appear in Hubbell's book or in any media interviews quoting Hubbell.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:762-1051 hearsay

  669. 669

    Ross Coulthart considers Steven Greer's public outing of James Woolsey for allegedly soliciting a UFO briefing to have damaged the chances of persuading public officials to speak out on the UAP issue.

    “His aggressive public outing of Woolsey for soliciting such a briefing (if that was true) damaged chances of persuading public officials to speak out on the issue.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:7755-7912 opinion first hand

  670. 670

    A day before the April 1997 Pentagon meeting, Steven Greer held a briefing on the UAP phenomenon at a Georgetown Washington DC hotel with senior congressmen and dozens of their staffers.

    “A day earlier, Greer had held a briefing on the UAP phenomenon at a Georgetown Washington DC hotel with senior congressmen and dozens of their staffers.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:8767-8910 administrative

  671. 671

    At the Georgetown briefing, around 12 witnesses, comprising defence contractors and military and intelligence insiders, gave first-hand testimony in a closed-door session about their claimed UAP experiences, including sightings of purported extra-terrestrial space debris, claims that NASA was airbrushing photographs of flying discs, and a military pilot's account of a direct encounter with a massive craft.

    “Around 12 witnesses, comprising defence contractors and military and intelligence insiders, gave startling first-hand testimony in the closed-door session about their claimed UAP experiences including sightings of purported extra-terrestrial space debris, claims that NASA was airbrushing photographs of flying discs, and a military pilot's account of a direct encounter with a massive craft.10”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:8920-9312 testimony

  672. 672

    Admiral Thomas Wilson agreed to be briefed about UFOs by Steven Greer and Willard Miller because he was one of the senior military officers whom Miller said was denied knowledge of a secret so-called 'Big Secret'.

    “The story goes that Admiral Thomas Wilson agreed to be briefed 'about UFOs' by Greer and Miller because he was one of those senior military officers whom Miller said was denied knowledge of The Big Secret.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch14:9766-9964 hearsay second hand

  673. 673

    None of the scientists brought in by Robert Bigelow to study the Skinwalker Ranch phenomenon were UFO believers by background.

    “However, none of the scientists brought in by Bigelow to study this phenomenon were 'UFO believers' by background.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:12141-12244 administrative

  674. 674

    Eric Davis has admitted he and his wife had an earlier UAP experience when he was in his late twenties.

    “Davis has admitted he and his wife had an earlier UAP experience when he was in his late twenties”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:12646-12735 testimony second hand

  675. 675

    Eric Davis was also at pains to debunk UAP claims when he could.

    “but he was also at pains to debunk UAP claims when he could.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:12747-12801 observation

  676. 676

    George Knapp is a multi-award-winning investigative journalist who has worked for Nevada's KLAS-TV for 40 years, breaking many extraordinary UAP stories.

    “Las Vegas investigative journalist George Knapp is a multi-award-winning investigative journalist who has worked for Nevada's KLAS-TV for 40 years, breaking many extraordinary UAP stories.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:13284-13464 administrative

  677. 677

    Terry and Gwen Sherman linked the UAP sightings at Skinwalker Ranch to the death or disappearance of seven of their cows.

    “the Shermans linked the UAP sightings to the death or disappearance of seven of their cows.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:1428-1514 testimony second hand

  678. 678

    John Alexander initiated what New York Times reporter Howard Blum revealed in 1990 to be a secret UFO Working Group at the Pentagon, evaluating UAP sightings and investigating alleged unexplained objects entering Earth from orbit.

    “It was John Alexander who initiated what New York Times reporter Howard Blum revealed in 1990 to be a secret UFO Working Group at the Pentagon, evaluating UAP sightings and investigating alleged unexplained objects entering Earth from orbit.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:16025-16262 administrative second hand

  679. 679

    The documents obtained from the Edgar Mitchell archive shed light on the extensive early work done in the late 1990s by Robert Bigelow's NIDS investigators into both UFOs and cattle mutilations.

    “They shed more light on the extensive early work done in the late 1990s by Bigelow's NIDS investigators into both UFOs and cattle mutilations.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:18371-18501 administrative second hand

  680. 680

    Edgar Mitchell was long a proponent of research into UAPs and served on the science advisory board of the National Institute for Discovery Science, retaining some of the confidential NIDS research reports from Skinwalker and other areas visited by the Bigelow-funded investigation team.

    “Mitchell, long a proponent of research into UAPs, served on the science advisory board of NIDS and he retained some of the confidential NIDS research reports from Skinwalker and other areas visited by the Bigelow-funded investigation team.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:18514-18748 administrative

  681. 681

    Documents from the Edgar Mitchell archive show NIDS was investigating suspected UAP-related cattle mutilations across Utah, Nevada and New Mexico in August 1997, including a dead cow with strange haemorrhaging on its back.

    “Intriguingly, the documents show that NIDS was investigating suspected UAP-related cattle mutilations right across Utah, Nevada and New Mexico in August 1997, including a dead cow with strange haemorrhaging on its back.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:18755-18969 administrative second hand

  682. 682

    A NIDS report in September 1997 detailed interviews with UFO eyewitnesses in Dulce, New Mexico, and the investigation of a five-day-old cow mutilation in Los Brasos.

    “Another report, in September 1997, detailed interviews with UFO eyewitnesses in Dulce, New Mexico, and the investigation of a five-day-old cow mutilation in Los Brasos.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:19052-19213 administrative second hand

  683. 683

    A local retired high school teacher, Joseph Hicks, claimed to have interviewed multiple eyewitnesses who said they had seen living beings in the portholes of hovering UAPs in sightings across the Uintah Basin where Skinwalker Ranch is located.

    “The story took off when a local retired high school teacher, Joseph Hicks, claimed to have interviewed multiple eyewitnesses who said they had seen living beings in the portholes of hovering UAPs in sightings across the Uintah Basin where the Skinwalker Ranch is located.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:2879-3142 hearsay second hand

  684. 684

    Terry and Gwen Sherman claimed to have seen multiple UAPs during their fifteen months on the farm at Skinwalker Ranch.

    “The Shermans claimed to have seen multiple UAPs during their 15 months on the farm.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:470-548 testimony second hand

  685. 685

    Ben Mezrich considers the evidence overwhelming that there is a link between UAP sightings and unexplained cattle mutilations.

    “Mezrich suggested the evidence is overwhelming that there is a link between UAP sightings and unexplained cattle mutilations.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:7221-7334 opinion second hand

  686. 686

    Ben Mezrich said Robert Bigelow's team had been investigating UFOs for the past 20 years.

    “'Turns out, for the past 20 years they have been investigating UFOs,' Mezrich says.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:8037-8114 opinion second hand

  687. 687

    Federal Aviation Administration manuals specifically advised civilian pilots to report UAPs to Robert Bigelow, not to the Federal Aviation Administration.

    “It also subsequently emerged that Federal Aviation Administration manuals specifically advised civilian pilots to report UAPs to Bigelow, not to the FAA.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch15:8121-8270 administrative second hand

  688. 688

    In a 2018 radio interview on Coast to Coast AM with George Knapp, Eric Davis said that the 'Threat' in AATIP refers to the fact that the UFO phenomenon has interfered with operations, and that the phenomenon was officially branded a threat which had to be studied.

    “In a 2018 radio interview with George Knapp on Coast to Coast AM, Davis said, 'The Threat in AATIP refers to the fact that the UFO phenomenon has interfered with operations. The phenomenon was officially branded a threat, and the threat had to be studied.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:10150-10401 testimony first hand

  689. 689

    For years, UAP have been tracked and observed interfering with nuclear weapons facilities as well as air force aircraft.

    “What he was referring to was extensive evidence showing that, for years, UAPs have been tracked and observed interfering with nuclear weapons facilities as well as air force aircraft.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:10412-10586 observation

  690. 690

    In the almost 50 years since 1973, Robert Hastings has personally interviewed more than 150 former US military witnesses to anomalous UAP sighting incidents at nuclear bases, storage areas and test sites.

    “In the almost 50 years since 1973, Hastings has personally interviewed more than 150 former US military witnesses to anomalous UAP sighting incidents at nuclear bases, storage areas and test sites.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:10734-10925 administrative

  691. 691

    Robert Hastings pieced together incidents of anomalous UAP activity at intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) sites across the US, including Malmstrom, Minot, F.E. Warren, Ellsworth, Vandenberg and Walker air force bases.

    “He pieced together incidents at intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) sites across the US, including Malmstrom, Minot, F.E. Warren, Ellsworth, Vandenberg and Walker air force bases.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:10932-11111 administrative

  692. 692

    Robert Hastings found evidence that UAP were taking an interest in nuclear weapons storage areas at Wurtsmith and Loring air force bases as well as at RAF Bentwaters in England.

    “He also found evidence UAPs were taking an interest in nuclear weapons storage areas at the air force's Wurtsmith and Loring bases, as well as the RAF Bentwaters base in England.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:11118-11315 administrative

  693. 693

    Eric Davis's official Defense Intelligence Agency-funded investigation concluded that the 2004 Tic Tac UAP was a legitimate unidentified flying object (UFO), not a technology made on Earth by humans, and that these are legitimate unidentified objects, anomalous, real vehicles under intelligent control and an advanced technology.

    “'the take on it is that it's a legitimate UFO . . . this is not a technology that is made on Earth by humans, anywhere. . . . we came to the conclusion that these are legitimate unidentified objects. They are anomalous. They are real vehicles. They are under intelligent control and they are an advanced technology.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:12368-12671 opinion first hand

  694. 694

    Eric Davis suggested the UAP were also a mystery to his masters at the Defense Intelligence Agency, and said something needed to be done about them because they were interfering with military deployments in the ocean and had interfered with air force deployments in the atmosphere wherever the air force was flying its planes.

    “Importantly, Davis suggested the UAPs were also a mystery to his masters at the Defence Intelligence Agency. 'And we got to do something about them because they are interfering with military deployments in the ocean and they have interfered with air force deployments in the atmosphere wherever the air force is flying their planes,' he said.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:12684-13021 opinion first hand

  695. 695

    Harry Reid has long admitted a strong interest in UAP.

    “Reid has long admitted a strong interest in UAPs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:1815-1859 administrative first hand

  696. 696

    Ross Coulthart suspects Harry Reid was being deliberately vague and knew a lot more from the classified intelligence world to prompt his interest in UAP than just the one Defense Intelligence Agency scientist's letter.

    “I suspect Harry Reid was being deliberately vague and that he knew a lot more from the classified intelligence world to prompt his interest in the phenomenon than just that one DIA scientist's letter.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:3175-3395 opinion first hand

  697. 697

    Harry Reid approached Senators Daniel Inouye and Ted Stevens to secure $22 million in funding for a study into the UAP mystery.

    “The Senator approached his colleagues, Democrat Senator Daniel Inouye and Republican Senator Ted Stevens, to get $22 million funding for a study into the UAP mystery.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:3449-3607 administrative

  698. 698

    Harry Reid said that a lot of things were unknown about what UAP are, that he does not know what they are, but that he believes the study should continue.

    “'We found that there were a lot of things unknown about what these things are. Now, I don't know what they are. I don't know, okay? I have no idea. But I do know we should continue studying,' he says enigmatically.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:3617-3816 opinion first hand

  699. 699

    Harry Reid claims that the letter from the Defense Intelligence Agency scientist alone prompted a new secret multimillion-dollar investigation by the US military into Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “As Reid somewhat implausibly tells it, that letter alone prompted a new secret multimillion-dollar investigation by the US military into Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:477-634 testimony first hand

  700. 700

    Ted Stevens admitted he saw UAP as a pilot during World War Two.

    “he admitted he saw UAPs as a pilot during World War Two”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:4913-4965 testimony first hand

  701. 701

    Ted Stevens told Harry Reid he saw a UAP during one wartime flight and that they needed to take a look at this.

    “'Whatever you want, you get it from me,' Stevens told Senator Reid. He explained he saw a UAP during one wartime flight. 'We need to take a look at this,' he told Reid.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:4971-5133 testimony first hand

  702. 702

    Robert Bigelow has described his grandparents having a close encounter with a UAP that filled the windscreen of their car before taking off at a right angle and shooting away into the distance.

    “He has described how his grandparents had a close encounter with a zooming UAP that filled up the windscreen of their car and then took off at a right angle and shot away into the distance.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:5589-5769 testimony first hand

  703. 703

    Ross Coulthart suspects Harry Reid was holding his cards tight and already in 2008 knew much more than he was prepared to publicly reveal to justify his push for UAP to be investigated.

    “I suspect the Nevada Senator was holding his cards tight and that, in 2008, he knew much more than he was prepared to publicly reveal to justify his push for the UAPs to be investigated.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:645-818 opinion first hand

  704. 704

    The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) contract made no reference to UAP but it was clear that the 'foreign threat' being investigated was UAP.

    “The contract made no reference at all to UAPs but it was very clear that the 'foreign threat' to be investigated was UAPs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:9006-9150 administrative

  705. 705

    Tim McMillan, a writer specialising in defence and intelligence stories, indicated in past interviews with Harry Reid that interested parties at the Defense Intelligence Agency felt it prudent to avoid any language that might cause someone to realise the underlying focus of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) was UFOs.

    “'In past interviews, [former Senator] Reid has indicated the interested parties at the DIA felt it prudent to avoid any language that might cause someone to realise the underlying focus of the AATIP program was UFOs,' Tim McMillan, a writer specialising in defence and intelligence stories, explained.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch17:9158-9448 hearsay second hand

  706. 706

    Hillary Clinton conceded it was possible Earth had been visited by aliens and pledged to make getting to the bottom of the UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) mystery a priority in her administration.

    “She also conceded it was possible our planet had been visited by aliens and she pledged she would make it a priority in her administration to get to the bottom of the UFO mystery.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch20:17536-17734 opinion first hand

  707. 707

    Donald Trump expressed scepticism about claims that UFOs are visiting Earth, saying of people who report seeing UFOs: 'Not particularly' when asked if he believed it.

    “‘People are saying they’re seeing UFOs. Do I believe it?’ the president said. ‘Not particularly.’”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch20:23765-23847 testimony first hand

  708. 708

    Tom DeLonge claims that he met senior US government Defence Department officials, spies and military contractors who admitted to a secret government conspiracy to hide the truth about UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) from the public.

    “it would corroborate Tom DeLonge's extraordinary claims that he met senior US government Defence Department officials, spies and military contractors whom, he alleges, admitted a secret government conspiracy to hide the truth about UAPs from you and me”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch20:502-752 opinion first hand

  709. 709

    Luis Elizondo revealed he had resigned from the Department of Defence weeks before joining To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences, in protest at excessive secrecy and internal opposition about the UAP issue inside the government.

    “Luis Elizondo who was to join TTSA, revealed he had resigned from the Department of Defence just weeks before in protest at the excessive secrecy and internal opposition about the UAP issue inside the government.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:11058-11259 testimony first hand

  710. 710

    Inside the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program, Luis Elizondo led the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the secretive Pentagon unit set up at Senator Harry Reid's urging to study Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “Inside that program, he led the Advance Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the secretive Pentagon unit set up at Senator Harry Reid's urging to study UAPs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:12280-12444 administrative

  711. 711

    Luis Elizondo's mission in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was to conduct scientific-based intelligence investigations of incursions by Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) into controlled US airspace.

    “As Elizondo's website acknowledges, his mission was 'to conduct scientific-based intelligence investigations of incursions by Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAPs) into controlled US airspace'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:12450-12632 administrative second hand

  712. 712

    Luis Elizondo maintains that the Pentagon secretly continued its investigations into Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) after 2012.

    “Elizondo maintains that the Pentagon secretly continued its investigations into UAPs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:12717-12797 testimony first hand

  713. 713

    In 2017, after nine years in the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program and its Department of Defence replacement, Luis Elizondo left the Pentagon because his efforts to investigate Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) were being obstructed from within.

    “In 2017, after nine years in AATIP and its Department of Defence replacement, Luis Elizondo left the Pentagon because his efforts to investigate UAPs were being obstructed from within.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:12804-12981 testimony first hand

  714. 714

    In a letter to Jim Mattis, his former boss in Afghanistan and then Defence Secretary, Luis Elizondo asked why more time and effort was not being spent on the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue.

    “'Why aren't we spending more time and effort on this issue?' Elizondo complained in a letter to his former boss in Afghanistan, Jim Mattis, now Defence Secretary.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:12990-13143 opinion first hand

  715. 715

    Within a couple of weeks of the CNN interview with Luis Elizondo, astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson told CNN he was not convinced by the UAP evidence.

    “but the news cycle moved on and, within a couple of weeks, UAP sceptic and astrophysicist Neil DeGrasse Tyson dismissively told CNN he was not convinced.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:17056-17199 opinion first hand

  716. 716

    New York Times reporter Ralph Blumenthal has since walked back from the claim that materials recovered from UAP were stored in Las Vegas, admitting they have now learned that no materials were provided.

    “But *Times* reporter Ralph Blumenthal has since walked back from that claim in an interview, admitting they have now learned that 'no materials were provided'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:18231-18380 testimony first hand

  717. 717

    To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences (TTSA) posted three Defence Department videos of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) on its website.

    “DeLonge's To The Stars organisation eventually posted three dramatic Defence Department videos of UAPs on its website.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:20805-20915 administrative

  718. 718

    The Gimbal video shows a UAP appearing to swivel on its axis in flight, manoeuvring in ways that defied known conventional aircraft capabilities.

    “The Gimbal video shows a UAP appearing to swivel on its axis in flight, manoeuvring in ways that defied known conventional aircraft capabilities.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:21407-21539 observation

  719. 719

    On the 34-second Go-Fast video, the UAP appears as a white oval shape moving at apparent high speed from top right to lower left of the screen, flying very low over the water.

    “On the 34-second video, the UAP appeared as a white oval shape moving at apparent high speed from top right to lower left of the screen flying very low over the water”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:22546-22707 observation

  720. 720

    Christopher Mellon called for setting aside taboos regarding UFOs and instead listening to pilots and radar operators.

    “'It is time to set aside taboos regarding "UFOs" and instead listen to our pilots and radar operators,' he told The Washington Post's readers.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:22896-23033 opinion first hand

  721. 721

    Christopher Mellon considers Sputnik's significance to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue to be that the United States is once again in a race for technological innovation, but this time against an unknown challenger.

    “He argued Sputnik's significance to the UAP issue was that the US was once again in a race for technological innovation, but this time with an unknown challenger”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch21:2731-2882 opinion first hand

  722. 722

    In September 2019, the US Navy formally acknowledged that it could not offer a satisfactory explanation for the UAP phenomena its pilots were witnessing.

    “It took until September 2019 for the navy to formally acknowledge what everyone had long taken for granted – that it could not offer any satisfactory explanation for the phenomena its pilots are still witnessing to this day.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:10215-10435 administrative

  723. 723

    For the 75 years prior to the US Navy's September 2019 acknowledgement, the US military had flatly denied in public that UAP were an issue of national security concern, repeatedly suggesting prosaic explanations such as lenticular clouds, weather balloons or optical illusions.

    “For the past 75 years, the US military has flatly denied, in public, that UAPs are an issue of national security concern, repeatedly playing down the notion they may be any threat and repeatedly suggesting (despite the protestations of many witnesses) prosaic explanations for the phenomena such as lenticular clouds, weather balloons or optical illusions.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:10887-11233 opinion

  724. 724

    Ryan Graves and other USS Theodore Roosevelt pilots were eventually summonsed to give confidential briefings to members of Congress about the UAP encounters.

    “The Roosevelt’s Lieutenant Ryan Graves and other pilots were eventually summonsed to give confidential briefings to members of Congress.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:12069-12198 administrative

  725. 725

    President Donald Trump was also briefed on the UAP sightings.

    “President Trump was also briefed.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:12466-12491 administrative

  726. 726

    To The Stars Academy of Arts & Sciences' Luis Elizondo coined the phrase 'The Five Observables' to describe characteristics most commonly seen in UAP.

    “To emphasise just how anomalous these unknown aerospace vehicles are, TTSA’s Luis Elizondo coined a phrase, ‘The Five Observables’, the characteristics most commonly seen in UAPs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:12914-13088 administrative second hand

  727. 727

    Luis Elizondo said UAP have been observed performing 50 to over 200 G-forces, and that materials are not designed to withstand those forces.

    “‘We are seeing objects that are doing 50, 100, 200 plus G-forces,’ said Elizondo. ‘Materials just aren’t designed to withstand those forces.’”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:13376-13508 measurement first hand

  728. 728

    Luis Elizondo said observed UAP travel at speeds potentially of approximately 13,000 to 16,000 kilometres per hour, well beyond expected performance limits for an object accelerating in three-dimensional space.

    “‘As an object is travelling in three-dimensional space, the faster it goes, the more forces are placed upon it. And yet, here is an object that is doing well in advance of those speeds and I don’t mean just three or four thousand miles an hour, potentially 8, 9, 10,000 miles per hour.’”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:13715-13994 measurement first hand

  729. 729

    Luis Elizondo said an observed UAP that should be clearly detectable appears opaque, blurry and not well defined to the naked eye, and sometimes appears to jam some of the best radar systems in the US inventory.

    “‘You’re looking at an object that you should be able to detect very clearly and yet when you look at it with the naked eye it’s opaque, kind of blurry, not well defined, I’m not really sure what I’m looking at. Other times it looks like it’s jamming some of the best radar systems that we have in our inventory,’ Elizondo explained.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:14143-14464 opinion first hand

  730. 730

    The Pentagon stated that the aerial phenomena observed in the three released videos remain characterised as 'unidentified'.

    “The Pentagon admitted, ‘the aerial phenomena observed in the videos remain characterized as “unidentified”’.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:16620-16713 administrative second hand

  731. 731

    Fighter pilot Danny Aucoin personally encountered UAPs twice.

    “In another sighting, fighter pilot, Lieutenant Danny Aucoin, personally encountered UAPs twice.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:3082-3171 observation second hand

  732. 732

    When Ryan Graves' jet's Advanced Targeting Forward-Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) system got close enough to the tracked objects, it visually displayed the UAP either electro-optically or in infrared mode.

    “When their jets’ Advanced Targeting Forward Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) got close enough, it visually displayed the UAP, either electro-optically or in infra-red mode.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:7279-7439 observation first hand

  733. 733

    Mark Walker accused the US Navy of withholding information about UAP.

    “Republican Congressman Mark Walker of North Carolina, who sat on the Intelligence and Counterterrorism subcommittee of the House Homeland Security Committee, flatly accused the navy of withholding information about UAPs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:8451-8666 opinion first hand

  734. 734

    Mark Walker wrote in a letter to the Secretary of the US Navy that, based on pilot accounts, encounters with UAP often involved complex flight patterns and advanced manoeuvring demanding extreme advances in quantum mechanics, nuclear science, electromagnetics and thermodynamics, and that if the accounts are true, the unidentified craft could pose a serious security risk to military personnel and defence apparatus.

    “‘Based on pilot accounts, encounters with these UAPs often involved complex flight patterns and advanced manoeuvring, which demand extreme advances in quantum mechanics, nuclear science, electromagnetics and thermodynamics. If the accounts are true, the unidentified crafts could pose a serious security risk to our military personnel and defence apparatus,’ Walker wrote in a letter to the Secretary of the US Navy.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:8919-9329 opinion first hand

  735. 735

    Navy Undersecretary Thomas Modly told Mark Walker that the Department of the Navy takes reports of UAP encounters very seriously and continues to log sightings and fully investigate the accounts.

    “He was told by Navy Undersecretary Thomas Modly that ‘the Department of the Navy takes these reports very seriously and continues to log sightings and fully investigate the accounts’.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch22:9474-9674 testimony first hand

  736. 736

    In May 2019, in an interview with Fox News' Tucker Carlson, Luis Elizondo dismissed claims that unidentified aerial phenomena objects do not exist, saying it is an absolute fact that they are there, but what they are, where they are from, and who is behind the wheel is not known.

    “In an interview with Fox News' Tucker Carlson in May 2019, Elizondo dismissed claims that the unidentified aerial phenomena objects do not exist, saying, 'It is an absolute fact that they are there. Now, what they are, where they are from, who is behind the wheel, we simply don't know.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch24:14125-14408 opinion first hand

  737. 737

    Luis Elizondo told Tucker Carlson it was unlikely that the unidentified aerial phenomena observed were foreign country adversaries flying craft in US airspace.

    “He told Carlson it was unlikely they were foreign country adversaries flying craft in US airspace.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch24:14415-14504 opinion first hand

  738. 738

    In July 2020, in an interview with The New York Times conducted apparently before he joined Aerospace Corporation, Eric Davis admitted that the US held recovered physical UAP samples.

    “He then surfaced in July 2020 in an interview with The New York Times (an interview apparently conducted before he joined Aerospace Corporation), where he admitted that the US held recovered physical UAP samples.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch24:18922-19128 testimony second hand

  739. 739

    Eric Davis wrote a paper describing how UAP used mimicry techniques to hide their form, including entering the atmosphere with the look or trajectory of a meteor or hiding within a meteor shower.

    “There was also a paper by Dr Eric Davis, where he wrote matter-of-factly about how UAPs used mimicry techniques to hide their form, 'entering the atmosphere with either the look or trajectory of a meteor or hidden within a meteor shower, behaving like dark meteors without the associated optical signature, hiding within an artificial or natural cloud, behaving as pseudo-stars sitting stationary over certain regions, or mimicking man-made aircrafts' aggregate features'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch25:15302-15764 opinion second hand

  740. 740

    The same 'DoD Threat Scenario' document suggested the UAP phenomenon could achieve 'Penetration of solid surfaces'.

    “The same document also suggested that whatever it is can also achieve 'Penetration of solid surfaces', which frankly sounds like magic.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch25:19662-19818 administrative second hand

  741. 741

    Steven Greer considers the narrative that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) represent an alien threat to be a 'false threat narrative'.

    “Dr Steven Greer has asserted, for example, that the whole alien threat narrative is a 'false threat narrative'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch25:20552-20652 opinion second hand

  742. 742

    Strom Thurmond was embarrassed that his foreword for Philip Corso's book was being used to support claims of a US government cover-up of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “Thurmond was embarrassed his support for Corso was being used to bolster claims of a US government UAP cover-up.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch25:22416-22525 observation

  743. 743

    Tom Wilson stated in his letter to Ross Coulthart that he never requested nor was denied access to supposed UAP programs, and that he was never threatened with losing his career if he persisted.

    “Admiral Wilson, it should be emphasised, was very clear in his letter to me that he never requested nor was he denied such access to supposed UAP programs and neither was he threatened he would lose his career if he persisted.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch26:23480-23723 testimony first hand

  744. 744

    Nat Kobitz confirmed to Ross Coulthart that he had been read into programs involving crashed UFOs or UAP and had never been read out of that clearance, but said he could not speak about it.

    “'Nat, were you ever read into any programs involving crashed UFOs or UAPs?' I pressed, repeating the question so he knew for sure what I was asking. There was a deep pause and then he said, 'Yes, I was. I was never read out of it. So, I really don't think it would help but I really can't speak about it.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch27:13741-14041 testimony first hand

  745. 745

    Nat Kobitz told Ross Coulthart about a UAP incident involving a navy pilot and a civilian pilot who both saw the same UAP, one described as a brilliant light that stopped, raced to another part of the sky, stopped again, and then disappeared, and the other described as a solid vehicle, variously described by the two witnesses as triangular or elliptical in shape.

    “He also told me of other UAP incidents he was caught up in, involving a navy pilot and a civilian pilot who both saw the same UAPs. 'One was a brilliant light which could not be accounted for at all. Because at one point it stood still, raced to another part of the sky and stood still again and then disappeared. The other was a solid vehicle that – the two differed on this shape – one thought it was triangular and the other thought it was elliptical,' he told me.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch27:16302-16766 hearsay second hand

  746. 746

    Barry Goldwater told Larry King that if you could get into certain places at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, you would find out what the air force and government know about UFOs.

    “'I think at Wright-Patterson, if you could get into certain places, you'd find out what the air force and the government does know about UFOs,' the Senator told King.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch27:18658-18818 opinion first hand

  747. 747

    It was a matter of public record that Charles Richard 'Dick' D'Amato conducted an investigation into UFOs.

    “It was a matter of public record that D'Amato did an investigation into 'UFOs'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch27:5410-5483 administrative second hand

  748. 748

    The United States Navy has officially admitted it cannot explain the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon.

    “The US Navy's talking about UFOs, officially admitting that it cannot explain the phenomenon, has validated my ability to talk about all this.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch28:21327-21464 opinion first hand

  749. 749

    What US Navy pilots are seeing in Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encounters is not secret United States technology, and the Navy and Department of Defense first checked to make sure the objects were not their own.

    “What our pilots are seeing is NOT secret US stuff. First thing navy and DoD did was check to make sure they weren't ours.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch28:22771-22887 opinion first hand

  750. 750

    Ravi Kopparapu and Jacob Haqq-Misra consider Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) to be a scientifically interesting problem that should not be dismissed by assuming every case must be explainable.

    “scientists Ravi Kopparapu and Jacob Haqq-Misra opined that UAPs were a scientifically interesting problem and that 'we must simply let scientific curiosity be the spearhead of understanding such phenomena. We should be cautious of outright dismissal by assuming that every UAP phenomena must be explainable'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch28:23600-23895 opinion second hand

  751. 751

    In late 2020, the United States Senate Intelligence Committee demanded that US intelligence agencies and the Department of Defense compile a report on all data collected on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), including navy pilot sightings.

    “in late 2020, the US's powerful Senate Intelligence Committee also demanded US intelligence agencies and the Defence Department compile a report on all data collected on UAPs, including the navy pilot sightings.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch28:26614-26815 administrative

  752. 752

    The United States Senate Intelligence Committee's demanded report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) data was due in June 2021 but was likely to be delayed.

    “That report was due in June 2021 but was likely to be delayed.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch28:26826-26880 administrative

  753. 753

    Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) are now on the agenda.

    “as Politico's Bryan Bender commented, 'UFOs are now on the agenda.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch28:26990-27051 opinion first hand

  754. 754

    Ross Coulthart believes the US government is hiding extraordinary secrets about the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) subject.

    “I have no doubt at all that the US government is hiding extraordinary secrets about The Phenomenon.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch28:27130-27218 opinion first hand

  755. 755

    Eric Davis has told the United States Congress in private briefings that the technology propelling the Tic Tac, Go-Fast and Gimbal Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) is off-world vehicles not made on Earth.

    “that is what he has told the Congress in private briefings”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch28:27757-27806 testimony first hand

  756. 756

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) was tasked since July 2022 with investigating UAP.

    “It was arguably within the remit of the Pentagon's newly formed AARO agency, the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, tasked since July 2022 to investigate UAPs”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:14637-14794 administrative

  757. 757

    NSC spokesman John Kirby revealed that President Joe Biden had mandated the first ever presidential daily intelligence briefing session devoted to UAP since June 2021.

    “NSC spokesman Admiral John Kirby also revealed the president had mandated the first ever presidential daily intelligence briefing session devoted to the phenomenon of UAPs since June 2021”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:17172-17355 administrative second hand

  758. 758

    John Kirby told the press that unidentified aerial phenomena have been reported for many years, without explanation or deep examination by the government, and that the US was consulting with allies and partners on the challenge of unidentified aerial phenomena.

    “'These unidentified aerial phenomena have been reported for many years, without explanation or deep examination by the government,' the admiral told the press. The US was consulting with its allies and partners 'on the challenge of unidentifi ed aerial phenomenon and how we can all work together to deal with that challenge.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:18062-18376 testimony second hand

  759. 759

    John Kirby explained that the decision to shoot down UAP came down to the type of safety and security threats and risks involved, and the ability to track, detect and engage, noting that many of the reports were happening around air training ranges where combat pilots were seeing the objects and there was potential impact to pilot flight safety.

    “John Kirby's convoluted explanation was telling: 'It's very – it's very simple. It comes down to what sort of safety and security threats and risk we're talking about... a lot – not – many of those reports were happening around our training ranges, were happening around air training ranges. So combat pilots were seeing these things. And it was – and there was a potential impact to the safety of flight of our pilots.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:18986-19445 testimony second hand

  760. 760

    Christopher Mellon said the extent of UAP activity over restricted US military airspace revealed by Navy aviators was staggering.

    “'The extent of the UAP activity over restricted military airspace revealed by Navy aviators was staggering.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:21277-21372 opinion first hand

  761. 761

    Signs were posted at one US Navy base warning aviators of the potential for mid-air collisions with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “The activity was so prolific that signs were posted at one Navy base warning aviators of the potential for mid-air collisions with these unidentified aircraft.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:21637-21813 testimony first hand

  762. 762

    A near mid-air collision between a military aircraft and a Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) was formally and officially reported.

    “Indeed, there was a near mid-air collision with a UAP that was formally and officially reported.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:21823-21911 testimony first hand

  763. 763

    Information provided to the United States Congress acknowledges 11 near mid-air collisions between military aircraft and Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) since 2004.

    “Information subsequently provided to Congress acknowledges 11 near mid-air collisions with UAP by military aircraft since 2004.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:21921-22043 measurement first hand

  764. 764

    Christopher Mellon said many of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encountered by US Navy pilots appeared to exhibit performance characteristics far more impressive and concerning than any of the objects downed by the United States Air Force in February 2023.

    “Mellon also reiterated that many of the UAPs encountered by Navy pilots, 'appeared to exhibit performance characteristics that are far more impressive and concerning than any of the objects recently downed by the US Air Force.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:22079-22299 opinion first hand

  765. 765

    United States Air Force pilots were not reporting Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) that must have been detected by their radars.

    “yet the USAF pilots, '… were not reporting UAP that must have been detected by their radars.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:22456-22541 opinion first hand

  766. 766

    Christopher Mellon believed most of North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD)'s Uncorrelated Tracks are flocks of geese or private planes with malfunctioning transponders, but there are also more serious cases the United States Air Force did not report, including cases where US and/or Canadian Air Forces scrambled fighter aircraft to intercept Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “To be sure, most are flocks of geese or private planes with malfunctioning transponders etc., but there are also more serious cases that the Air Force did not report, including, it now seems, cases where US and/or Canadian Air Forces scrambled fighter aircraft to intercept UAP.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:23038-23312 opinion first hand

  767. 767

    Susan Gough said an intelligence report had formally attributed some of the military Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings to Chinese surveillance using relatively ordinary drone technology.

    “Ms Gough asserted an intelligence report had formally attributed *some* (my emphasis) of the military sightings to Chinese surveillance, 'with relatively ordinary drone technology'.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:25190-25359 testimony second hand

  768. 768

    The New York Times reported that of the cases that have been resolved, most Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings proved to be either errant junk in the sky like balloons, or surveillance activity, and incidents recorded in the past year for which more data had been collected turned out to have ordinary earthbound explanations.

    “The *Times* stated that, 'of the cases that have been resolved, most have proved to be either errant junk in the sky, like balloons, or surveillance activity … Incidents recorded in the past year for which more data has been collected, have turned out to have ordinary earthbound explanations.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:25378-25653 administrative second hand

  769. 769

    Readers of the New York Times were not allowed to see the intelligence report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings and were told this was necessary to protect intelligence collection methods.

    “Readers of the *Times* were told they were not allowed to see this intelligence report; we had to take the Pentagon's word for this because it was necessary to protect intelligence collection methods.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:25668-25886 administrative second hand

  770. 770

    Christopher Mellon had warned for years that the intelligence community's indifference to UAP would one day cause a shock 'Pearl Harbor or Sputnik moment'.

    “what former Defense official Christopher Mellon had been warning about for years, that the intelligence community's catastrophically complacent indifference to UAPs would one day cause a shock Pearl Harbor or Sputnik moment”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:2650-2868 opinion second hand

  771. 771

    Jim Hines said that if one goes through the couple of hundred incidents where pilots saw a Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and sensors picked it up, almost all of it can be explained, but there are still a few that remain unsure, which came out in a congressional hearing.

    “Stephen Colbert: 'Should I be worried?' (about these navy sightings) Colbert asked. Jim Hines: 'Well, let's get to that,' the congressman responded. 'It's not just what they see, it's the sensors. So if the sensor picks something up you know there's something there. So, here's the interesting answer to your question. If you go through the couple of hundred of incidents where pilots saw it, the sensors picked it up, we can explain almost all of it … But there still, and this came out in the hearing, there's still a few that we're just not sure about.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:26998-27518 opinion first hand

  772. 772

    Ryan Graves wrote that the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) his squadron observed accelerated at speeds up to Mach 1, the speed of sound.

    “Th e unidentifi ed aerial phenomena (UAP) accelerated at speeds up to Mach 1, the speed of sound.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:27882-27973 observation first hand

  773. 773

    Ryan Graves wrote that the observed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) could hold their position, appearing motionless, despite Category 4 hurricane-force winds of approximately 220 kilometres per hour.

    “They could hold their position, appearing motionless, despite Category 4 hurricane-force winds of 120 knots.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:27980-28082 observation first hand

  774. 774

    Ryan Graves wrote that the observed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) did not have any visible means of lift, control surfaces or propulsion, nothing resembling normal aircraft with wings, flaps or engines.

    “They did not have any visible means of lift, control surfaces or propulsion — in other words nothing that resembled normal aircraft with wings, flaps or engines.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:28089-28242 observation first hand

  775. 775

    Ryan Graves wrote that the observed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) outlasted the fighter jets, operating continuously throughout the day.

    “And they outlasted our fighter jets, operating continuously throughout the day.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:28251-28326 observation first hand

  776. 776

    Ryan Graves is a formally trained engineer and wrote that the technology demonstrated by the observed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) defied his understanding.

    “I am a formally trained engineer, but the technology they demonstrated defied my understanding,' Graves wrote.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:28331-28435 opinion first hand

  777. 777

    Ryan Graves said that after the near-miss incident, other aircrew flying along the US east coast quietly began sharing similar Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) experiences.

    “even though, 'other aircrew flying along the east coast quietly began sharing similar experiences.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:28606-28692 testimony first hand

  778. 778

    Ryan Graves said that because no one in a command position wanted to know about the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) seen by US Navy pilots, the only thing pilots could do was cancel or move their training as the UAP continued to manoeuvre in their vicinity unchecked.

    “Because no one in a command position wanted to know about the UAPs seen by Navy pilots the only thing pilots could do was cancel or move their training, 'as the UAP continued to maneuver in our vicinity unchecked.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:28706-28909 testimony first hand

  779. 779

    Americans for Safe Aerospace (ASA) supports military and civilian pilots and others in the aerospace industry who report Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), demanding more disclosure from public officials.

    “It supports military and civilian pilots and others in the aerospace industry who report UAPs, demanding more disclosure from public officials.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:29092-29218 administrative

  780. 780

    Ryan Graves conceded there was a shocking possibility that the advanced Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) technology seen by US Navy pilots was deployed by China or another potential foreign adversary.

    “As Ryan Graves conceded, there was a shocking possibility that the advanced UAP technology seen by US Navy pilots was deployed by China or another potential foreign adversary.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:29972-30137 opinion first hand

  781. 781

    Ryan Graves said the world needs to urgently address the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) threat by bringing together the best minds in the military, intelligence, science and tech sectors, and that if advanced UAP are not foreign drones, a robust scientific inquiry into the mystery is needed, since obfuscation and denial are a recipe for more conspiracy theories and greater distrust.

    “'We need to urgently address this threat by bringing together the best minds in our military, intelligence, science and tech sectors. If advanced UAP are not foreign drones, then we absolutely need a robust scientifi c inquiry into this mystery. Obfuscation and denial are a recipe for more conspiracy theories and greater distrust.'”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:30206-30528 opinion first hand

  782. 782

    Marco Rubio expressed concern that the Defense Department had not been sharing information on the hundreds of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) cases with the investigators and scientists at the Pentagon's All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO).

    “Th e Senator also expressed his concern that the Defense Department had not been sharing information on these hundreds of UAPs with the investigators and scientists on the Pentagon's UAP investigations agency, AARO – the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Offi ce.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:31886-32168 opinion first hand

  783. 783

    The February 2023 shoot-down episode left the United States Congress more strongly bipartisan on the issue of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) than ever before.

    “the one thing that came out of the whole episode was that Congress is now even more strongly bipartisan on the issue of UAPs than ever before, a refreshing policy agreement from the traditional party polarisation on almost every other issue on the Hill.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch29:33316-33564 opinion

  784. 784

    Jay Stratton described seeing a hovering delta-shaped UAP directly above him on his first day at Skinwalker Ranch.

    “He also described seeing a hovering delta-shaped UAP directly above him on his fi rst day at the ranch.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:10864-10961 testimony first hand

  785. 785

    Jay Stratton acknowledged that he changed the official acronym describing the UAP phenomenon from UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) to UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) while working at Skinwalker Ranch with the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) team.

    “Stratton also acknowledged he changed the offi cial acronym describing the phenomenon from UFO to UAP while he was at Skinwalker working with the Advance Aerospace Threat Identification Program team.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:12508-12702 testimony first hand

  786. 786

    Jay Stratton recognised that the term 'UFO' (Unidentified Flying Objects) did not cover the phenomena that he witnessed at Skinwalker Ranch, which motivated his change of terminology to UAP.

    “He did this because he recognised that 'UFO' – Unidentified Flying Objects – did not cover the phenomena that he witnessed at the ranch.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:12708-12838 testimony first hand

  787. 787

    In 1968, the United States Congress previously attempted to seriously investigate the UAP phenomenon.

    “as Congress was in 1968, the last time it attempted to seriously investigate the phenomenon?”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:1404-1485 administrative first hand

  788. 788

    The Admiral Wilson Memo implies that a UAP reverse-engineering program is operating under intense secrecy, hidden in private corporate aerospace, and known about by only a few defence and intelligence insiders.

    “if, as the much-disputed Admiral Wilson memo implies, there is a UAP reverse engineering program operating under intense secrecy, hidden in private corporate aerospace and known about by only a few defence and intelligence insiders”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:15837-16060 hearsay second hand

  789. 789

    The National Defense Authorization Act 2023 (NDAA) requires an exhaustive search across all federal government agencies for all records pertaining to non-disclosure agreements (NDAs) relating to UAP.

    “Th is legislation requires there be an exhaustive search across all federal government agencies for all records pertaining to NDAs relating to UAPs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:20082-20225 administrative

  790. 790

    United States Congress passed the National Defense Authorization Act 2023 (NDAA) provisions on UAP with bi-partisan support.

    “By any measure, the fact that Congress has, with bi-partisan support, passed such extraordinary laws suggests very strongly that they have learned something in secret hearings to make them take the issue seriously.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:20763-20967 administrative

  791. 791

    Douglas Dean Johnson considers the National Defense Authorization Act 2023 (NDAA) UAP legislation to reflect a perception among key members of Congress that important information on the subject may have been appropriately classified but that much important data has been 'stovepiped' - sealed within specific projects or programs in ways that impeded meaningful progress and congressional oversight.

    “He says, ‘I believe that the legislation reflects a perception, by some key members of Congress, that there is important information on this subject to which classification may have been appropriate, but that much important data has been “stovepiped” – sealed up within specific projects or programs in ways that have impeded meaningful progress towards coming fully to grips with the entire scope of UAP, and perhaps also stymied meaningful congressional oversight.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:21079-21535 opinion first hand

  792. 792

    Douglas Dean Johnson considers it possible that much important UAP data may have been lost, forgotten, or hidden under premises that are no longer applicable.

    “Much important data may have been lost, forgotten, or hidden under premises that are no longer applicable.’6”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:21546-21653 opinion first hand

  793. 793

    On 2022-05-17, two top Department of Defense intelligence officials appeared before the first public congressional hearing into UAP in over half a century.

    “On 17 May 2022, two top Defense Department intelligence officials appeared before the first public congressional hearing8 into UAPs in over half a century.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:21911-22058 administrative

  794. 794

    Ronald S. Moultrie and Scott W. Bray publicly acknowledged that UAP posed potential flight safety and general security risks.

    “Ronald S. Moultrie, the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security and Scott W. Bray, the Deputy Director of Naval Intelligence, publicly acknowledged that UAPs posed potential flight safety and general security risks.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:22128-22353 testimony first hand

  795. 795

    Since a preliminary UAP report in mid-2021, the Pentagon's UAP team was investigating 400 unresolved UAP incidents as of the 2022-05-17 congressional hearing.

    “they admitted that since a preliminary UAP report in mid-2021 the Pentagon’s UAP team was now investigating 400 unresolved UAP incidents.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:22447-22574 testimony first hand

  796. 796

    André Carson considers the stigma associated with UAP to have long hindered good intelligence analysis.

    “Committee chairman André Carson emphasised how the stigma associated with UAPs had long hindered good intelligence analysis.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:22697-22812 opinion first hand

  797. 797

    André Carson said pilots avoided reporting UAP sightings or were laughed at when they did.

    “‘Pilots avoided reporting or were laughed at when they did.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:22823-22877 opinion first hand

  798. 798

    André Carson said Department of Defense officials relegated the UAP issue to the back room or swept it under the rug entirely, fearful of a sceptical national security community.

    “DOD officials relegated the issue to the back room or swept it under the rug entirely, fearful of a skeptical national security community.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:22882-23010 opinion first hand

  799. 799

    André Carson said UAP are unexplained but real, need to be investigated, and any threats they pose need to be mitigated.

    “UAPs are unexplained, it is true, but they are real. They need to be investigated, and any threats they pose need to be mitigated,’ Carson said.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:23043-23182 opinion first hand

  800. 800

    At a separate briefing with select media in late 2022, Ronald S. Moultrie said the Pentagon had not seen anything that would lead it to believe that any of the objects under investigation were of alien origin.

    “He replied, ‘We have not seen anything that would – but we are certainly very early on – that would lead us to believe that any of the objects that we have seen are of alien origin, if you will.’9”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:24756-24951 testimony first hand

  801. 801

    Luis Elizondo was formerly the head of the Pentagon's UAP investigations team.

    “Contrast that DOD response with what Luis Elizondo, a former head of the Pentagon’s UAP investigations team, told the UK’s *GQ* magazine in late 2021:”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:24954-25099 administrative

  802. 802

    Luis Elizondo believes it is his strong opinion that the US government is in possession of exotic material associated with UAP.

    “that it’s my opinion, my belief – a strong belief, hint, hint – that the US government is in possession of exotic material associated with UAPs. That is all I am allowed to say.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:25333-25506 opinion first hand

  803. 803

    Luis Elizondo declined to say whether organic matter or beings had been recovered in connection with UAP.

    “Q: Do you believe organic matter or beings have been recovered? A: I am respectfully going to pass on that question. There’s a couple questions that I’m really not at liberty to discuss. That’s one of them.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:25538-25740 testimony first hand

  804. 804

    Luis Elizondo believes UAP are intelligently controlled because they respond and react to human actions.

    “They’re intelligently controlled, for sure, because they’re responding and reacting to our actions. That is for certain. They are absolutely intelligently controlled by something.’”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:25746-25915 opinion first hand

  805. 805

    Jim Semivan considers himself an acknowledged experiencer of the UAP phenomenon.

    “Jim Semivan, an acknowledged experiencer with the phenomenon”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:26009-26059 administrative

  806. 806

    Ross Coulthart has been told that a non-human intelligence originating from another planet or dimension is increasingly considered the least likely explanation for the UAP phenomenon.

    “I am told that is increasingly the least likely explanation for the phenomenon.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:7495-7563 hearsay second hand

  807. 807

    The United States has repeatedly denied that UAP demonstrating the Five Observables are US technology hidden in a secret black program.

    “The United States has repeatedly denied that these apparently intelligently controlled 'craft' are US technology hidden in some super-secret black program.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:8226-8373 administrative

  808. 808

    Ross Coulthart is apprised of enough data points from multiple sources to question whether at least some of what is being reported as UAP is secret US technology currently in development.

    “I am apprised of enough data points from multiple sources to make me question if at least some of what is being reported as UAPs is secret US technology currently in development.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:8630-8796 opinion first hand

  809. 809

    The term 'anomalous' in the National Defense Authorization Act 2023's UAP provisions is new terminology, since Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) had previously been expressed as unidentified 'aerial' or 'aerospace' phenomena.

    “That is a striking change off the top because 'anomalous' is new. UAP has previously been expressed as unidentified 'aerial' or 'aerospace' phenomena.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:9129-9269 opinion first hand

  810. 810

    The substitution of 'anomalous' for 'aerial' or 'aerospace' is, in Ross Coulthart's view, an implicit recognition that these objects are trans-medium, operating in the sky, in the ocean, and in orbit.

    “The substitution of 'anomalous' is an implicit recognition of something that has become clear in the past year or so, firstly that these objects are trans-medium, operating not only in our skies but also in our ocean...and in orbit”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:9281-9570 opinion first hand

  811. 811

    Ross Coulthart considers that the UAP phenomenon has an aspect that is paranormal and not easily explained as mere technology, citing claims of werewolves, dogmen, shadow figures, and interdimensional portals such as those described at Skinwalker Ranch.

    “there is also an aspect to this phenomenon that is, dare I say, paranormal, not easily explained as mere technology. Claims of werewolves or dogmen, shadow figures and interdimensional portals such as those described at Skinwalker Ranch may make your head explode with incredulity dear reader, but as uncomfortable as it may be admitting it, they are part of the phenomenon that needs investigation.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch30:9610-10021 opinion first hand

  812. 812

    More recent reports of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings are increasingly being verified on radar and other sensor systems, photographed or videoed, and corroborated by multiple witnesses.

    “More recent reports of UAP sightings are increasingly being verified on radar and other sensor systems, as well as photographed or videoed, and these events are often corroborated by multiple witnesses.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch5:8385-8577 opinion

  813. 813

    US government and military insiders interviewed for In Plain Sight admit they have knowledge of technology operating in the sky, oceans and orbit that far exceeds known human science.

    “US government and military insiders I have interviewed for this book admit they have knowledge of technology operating in our skies, oceans and orbit that far exceeds known human science.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch5:8702-8881 testimony second hand

  814. 814

    Recorded sightings of strange objects in Australian and New Zealand skies date back to the 19th-century period of early European settlement.

    “Recorded sightings of strange objects in Antipodean skies can be found right back to the 19th-century period of early European settlement.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch6:107-234 observation

  815. 815

    Ross Coulthart considers it not sound science to make a sweeping generalisation that eyewitness evidence should never be taken seriously because it pertains to UAP.

    “It is surely not sound science to make a sweeping generalisation that eyewitness evidence should *never* be taken seriously just because it pertains to UAPs.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch6:14509-14661 opinion first hand

  816. 816

    Polls show more than two-thirds of Americans believe the US government knows more than it is letting on about the UAP phenomenon.

    “Polls show more than two-thirds of Americans believe the US government knows more than it is letting on about the phenomenon10 (although, to be sure, that does not make their belief true).”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch6:16150-16332 measurement second hand

  817. 817

    Ross Coulthart considers that scientists' reluctance to intellectually engage with the UAP phenomenon and their quick dismissal of incidents without serious investigation is encouraging conspiratorial thinking.

    “I suspect scientists’ reluctance to intellectually engage with the phenomenon, and their quick dismissal of any incidents without serious investigation, accompanied by ridicule and mockery, is actually encouraging this conspiratorial thinking.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch6:16556-16790 opinion first hand

  818. 818

    George Jones acknowledged that he witnessed a UFO during his career, describing a brilliant white light at the bottom of a shadowy shape like a transparent balloon.

    “The Air Marshall also openly acknowledged that he witnessed a ‘UFO’ during his career – ‘a brilliant white light at the bottom of a shadowy shape like a transparent balloon’ – and this convinced him of the need for serious research into the phenomenon.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch6:2367-2608 testimony first hand

  819. 819

    Sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) escalated around the world in the years immediately after the Second World War.

    “Around the world, sightings of unidentified aerial phenomena escalated in the years immediately after the Second World War.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch7:1045-1164 observation

  820. 820

    The Roswell press release story hit the newswires in the early afternoon of 8 July 1947 and had an incendiary effect on already frantic public interest in UFOs and flying saucers, coming straight after the many UAP sightings of the previous weeks.

    “The story hit the newswires in the early afternoon and, coming as it did straight after the many UAP sightings over the previous weeks, the announcement had an incendiary effect on the already frantic public interest in ‘UFOs and flying saucers’.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch7:11880-12117 observation

  821. 821

    Stanton Friedman has accused Donald Menzel of being a deep-cover disinformation agent tasked with shutting down Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) stories.

    “Researcher Stanton Friedman has accused Menzel of being a deep-cover disinformation agent tasked to shut down UAP stories.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch7:22934-23048 opinion first hand

  822. 822

    Ridicule by sceptics gagged much of the mainstream press from taking the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) issue seriously.

    “The ridicule by sceptics certainly had the effect of gagging much of the mainstream press and preventing them from taking the issue seriously”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch7:23060-23192 opinion first hand

  823. 823

    Despite scepticism suppressing mainstream press coverage, public interest in flying saucers intensified and sightings of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) increased.

    “but public interest in 'flying saucers' actually intensified; sightings of UAPs soared.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch7:23203-23283 opinion first hand

  824. 824

    Pressure mounted on the US military to provide an explanation for the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) mystery.

    “Pressure was mounting on the US military to provide an explanation for the mystery in plain sight.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch7:23516-23608 opinion first hand

  825. 825

    Many believers in the extra-terrestrial (ET) hypothesis for UAP speculate that alien spaceships were covertly monitoring the atomic bomb tests in New Mexico, and that when one crashed it was secretly recovered by the US military with dead and live extra-terrestrial beings on board.

    “Many believers in the extra-terrestrial (ET) hypothesis for UAPs speculate that alien spaceships were covertly monitoring the atomic bomb tests in New Mexico and that, when one crashed, it was secretly recovered by the US military with dead and live extra-terrestrial beings on board.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch7:9709-9987 opinion second hand

  826. 826

    Declassified military archives reveal that numerous UAP sightings were being recorded over some of the United States' most sensitive military bases, yet the US government seemed determined to ignore that potential threat.

    “What he and his colleagues knew (and this is now revealed by declassified military archives) was that numerous sightings were being recorded over some of the country’s most sensitive military bases, yet the US government seemed determined to ignore that potential threat.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch9:18232-18496 administrative second hand

  827. 827

    Soviet pilots were reportedly seeing strange things in the sky, but their reports were being suppressed.

    “Soviet pilots were also seeing strange things, although their reports were being suppressed.”

    In Plain Sight 2023-11-17 ch9:536-617 testimony

  828. 828

    The United States Air Force and United States Navy have been at the forefront of developing policies, procedures, and mechanisms for reporting Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “Also, the Air Force and Navy have been at the forefront of developing policies, procedures, and mechanisms for reporting UAP.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:1037-1158 observation

  829. 829

    The United States Department of Defense (DoD) has relied heavily on the Services and Components to detect, report, collect, analyse, and identify Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) since the 1940s.

    “In fact, the DoD has relied heavily on the Services and Components to detect, report, collect, analyze, and identify UAP since the 1940s.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:1163-1294 observation

  830. 830

    The Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense determined that the United States Department of Defense (DoD) has not used a coordinated approach to detect, report, collect, analyse, and identify Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “the DoD has not used a coordinated approach to detect, report, collect, analyze, and identify UAP;”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:12097-12191 opinion first hand

  831. 831

    The Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense found that United States Department of Defense (DoD) Components have largely excluded geographic combatant commands, which are responsible for detecting, deterring, and preventing threats and attacks against the United States and its territories, possessions, and bases in their respective areas of responsibility, in developing Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) policies and procedures.

    “DoD Components have largely excluded geographic combatant commands, which are responsible for detecting, deterring, and preventing threats and attacks against the United States and its territories, possessions, and bases in their respective areas of responsibility, in developing UAP policies and procedures; and”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:12198-12507 opinion first hand

  832. 832

    The Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense found that United States Department of Defense (DoD) Components developed varying processes to collect, analyse, and identify Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) incidents.

    “DoD Components developed varying processes to collect, analyze, and identify UAP incidents.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:12513-12594 opinion first hand

  833. 833

    The United States Department of Defense (DoD) has not issued a comprehensive Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) response plan that identifies roles, responsibilities, requirements, and coordination procedures for detecting, reporting, collecting, analysing, and identifying UAP incidents.

    “The DoD has not issued a comprehensive UAP response plan that identifies roles, responsibilities, requirements, and coordination procedures for detecting, reporting, collecting, analyzing, and identifying UAP incidents.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:13007-13216 opinion first hand

  834. 834

    In December 1947, the United States Air Force Chief of Staff established Project Sign to investigate the first recorded observations of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO).

    “The DoD's first official UAP-focused activities occurred in December 1947, when the U.S. Air Force Chief of Staff established PROJECT SIGN to investigate the first recorded observations of unidentified flying objects.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:1302-1511 administrative

  835. 835

    The United States Department of Defense (DoD)'s response to Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) incidents is uncoordinated and concentrated within each Military Department.

    “As a result, the DoD response to UAP incidents is uncoordinated and concentrated within each Military Department.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:13227-13329 opinion first hand

  836. 836

    Officials from the Military Services and the Military Department Counterintelligence Organizations (MDCOs) said they have been waiting for the United States Department of Defense (DoD) to issue comprehensive Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) guidance before developing their own guidance.

    “Officials from the Military Services and MDCOs stated that they have been waiting for the DoD to issue comprehensive UAP guidance before developing their own guidance.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:13341-13499 testimony second hand

  837. 837

    The Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense interviewed senior officials at the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security (OUSD(I&S)), the Military Services, the Military Department Counterintelligence Organizations (MDCOs), and the Defense agencies to learn how their organisations detect, report, collect, analyse, and identify Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) incidents.

    “We interviewed senior officials at the OUSD(I&S), the Military Services, the MDCOs, and the Defense agencies to learn how their organizations detect, report, collect, analyze, and identify UAP incidents.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:13598-13791 administrative first hand

  838. 838

    The Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense concluded that United States Department of Defense (DoD) Components' existing Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) processes largely exclude the role of the geographic combatant commands.

    “We concluded that these organizations generally adapted existing systems and that the DoD Components' existing UAP processes largely exclude the role of the geographic combatant commands.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:13802-13980 opinion first hand

  839. 839

    The Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense determined that geographic combatant commands' processes for responding to Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) incidents generally adapted existing systems to report UAP incidents.

    “We also reviewed the geographic combatant commands' processes for responding to UAP incidents and determined that the commands' processes also generally adapted existing systems to report UAP incidents.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:13991-14183 opinion first hand

  840. 840

    The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022 (FY 2022 NDAA) assigns the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), under the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security (OUSD(I&S)), responsibility for synchronising and standardising the collection, analysis, and identification of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) incidents.

    “The FY 2022 NDAA assigns AARO, under the OUSD(I&S), responsibility for synchronizing and standardizing the collection, analysis, and identification of UAP incidents.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:14696-14851 administrative second hand

  841. 841

    The United States Air Force designated Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) as a "Special Interest Item," which requires aircrews to document and report UAP observations within 24 hours of engine shutdown and mission completion using the Marauder system.

    “For example, an Air Force Remotely Piloted Aircraft and Airborne Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance Technical Advisor stated that the Air Force designated UAP as a "Special Interest Item," which requires aircrews to document and report UAP observations within 24 hours of engine shutdown and mission completion using the Marauder system.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:15061-15403 testimony second hand

  842. 842

    Between 1947 and 1949, United States Air Force personnel investigated 243 reported Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) sightings.

    “From 1947 to 1949, Air Force personnel investigated 243 reported UAP sightings.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:1520-1589 measurement

  843. 843

    United States Army personnel use the United States Air Force's Marauder system to document and report Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) observations because the Army has not developed its own UAP-specific processes.

    “An Army Senior Advisor for Science and Technology and Innovation stated that Army personnel also use the Air Force's Marauder system to document and report UAP observations because the Army has not developed its own UAP-specific processes.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:15935-16164 testimony second hand

  844. 844

    In 1952, the United States Air Force Director of Intelligence initiated Project Blue Book to investigate Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO).

    “In 1952, the U.S. Air Force Director of Intelligence initiated PROJECT BLUE BOOK to investigate unidentified flying objects.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:1600-1716 administrative

  845. 845

    The Military Services and Military Department Counterintelligence Organizations (MDCOs) have sent some Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) incident reports to the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), but the United States Department of Defense (DoD) does not currently formally require them to do so.

    “The Military Services and MDCOs have sent some UAP incident reports to AARO, but the DoD does not currently formally require them to do so.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:16175-16311 observation

  846. 846

    The Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense determined that the United States Department of Defense (DoD) has no overarching Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) policy and, as a result, it lacks assurance that national security and flight safety threats to the United States from UAP have been identified and mitigated.

    “We determined that the DoD has no overarching UAP policy and, as a result, it lacks assurance that national security and flight safety threats to the United States from UAP have been identified and mitigated.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:16454-16652 opinion first hand

  847. 847

    The Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense recommended that the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security, in coordination with the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) Director, issue a United States Department of Defense (DoD) policy to integrate Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) roles, responsibilities, requirements, and coordination procedures into existing intelligence, counterintelligence, and force protection policies and procedures.

    “We recommend that the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security, in coordination with the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office Director, issue a Department of Defense policy to integrate unidentified anomalous phenomena roles, responsibilities, requirements, and coordination procedures into existing intelligence, counterintelligence, and force protection policies and procedures.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:16785-17170 administrative first hand

  848. 848

    The recommended United States Department of Defense (DoD) policy should include methods to address Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) incidents and should align with policies and procedures for the protection of United States persons' civil liberties.

    “The policy should include methods to address unidentified anomalous phenomena incidents and should align with policies and procedures for the protection of United States persons' civil liberties.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:17182-17367 administrative first hand

  849. 849

    The United States Department of Defense (DoD) did not officially look at Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) again until mid-2000, when select members of United States Congress initiated and funded the Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Applications Program (AAWSAP) to study UAP, under the direction of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA).

    “The DoD did not officially look at UAP again until mid-2000, when select members of Congress initiated and funded a program to study UAP, called the Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Applications program, under the direction of the Defense Intelligence Agency.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:1813-2066 administrative

  850. 850

    The Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security said the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO)'s progress in detecting, identifying, and resolving Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) includes the development of an analytic framework, a science plan, an operational framework, and a strategic communications plan.

    “The Under Secretary also stated that AARO's progress in detecting, identifying, and resolving UAP includes the development of an analytic framework, science plan, operational framework, a strategic communications plan, and implementing guidance on the UAP-related roles and responsibilities of the Office of the Secretary of Defense, AARO, combatant commands, Military Services, and Combat Support Agencies.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:18218-18616 opinion first hand

  851. 851

    The Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security said the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO)'s progress includes implementing guidance on the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP)-related roles and responsibilities of the Office of the Secretary of Defense, AARO, combatant commands, Military Services, and Combat Support Agencies.

    “...and implementing guidance on the UAP-related roles and responsibilities of the Office of the Secretary of Defense, AARO, combatant commands, Military Services, and Combat Support Agencies.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:18437-18616 opinion first hand

  852. 852

    The Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security said the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) is developing policy guidance, including recently released General Administration guidance through the Joint Staff to the combatant commands, to delineate Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) roles, responsibilities, requirements, and coordination procedures.

    “The Under Secretary stated that AARO is developing policy guidance, including recently released General Administration guidance through the Joint Staff to the combatant commands, to delineate UAP roles, responsibilities, requirements, and coordination procedures.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:18626-18878 opinion first hand

  853. 853

    The Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense will close Recommendation 1 when the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security (OUSD(I&S)), in coordination with the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), provides the Inspector General with the issued Department of Defense policy to integrate Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) roles, responsibilities, requirements, and coordination procedures into existing intelligence, counterintelligence, and force protection policies and procedures.

    “We will close the recommendation when the OUSD(I&S), in coordination with AARO, provides us with the issued DoD policy to integrate UAP roles, responsibilities, requirements, and coordination procedures into existing intelligence, counterintelligence, and force protection policies and procedures.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:19290-19576 administrative first hand

  854. 854

    The Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense recommended that the Secretary of the Army issue interim guidance for Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) while waiting for the United States Department of Defense (DoD) to issue policy.

    “We recommend that the Secretary of the Army issue interim guidance for unidentified anomalous phenomena while waiting for the Department of Defense to issue policy.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:19652-19809 administrative first hand

  855. 855

    The Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense recommended that the Secretary of the Army's interim guidance for Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) should, at a minimum, integrate existing intelligence, counterintelligence, and force protection policies and procedures.

    “a. Integrate existing intelligence, counterintelligence, and force protection policies and procedures.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:19895-19986 administrative first hand

  856. 856

    The United States Department of Defense (DoD) attempted to establish several programs for coordinating DoD-wide Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) reporting, but none of the programs were ever fully implemented.

    “Since then, the DoD has attempted to establish several programs for coordinating DoD-wide UAP reporting; however, none of the programs were ever fully implemented.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:2074-2225 observation

  857. 857

    In 2020, the United States Congress directed the United States Department of Defense (DoD), through the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022 (FY 2022 NDAA), to develop, fund, and staff a formal interagency entity to study, collect data, and report on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “In 2020, as a result of increased concerns of flight crew safety, national security, and adversary technology advances, Congress directed the DoD, through the FY 2022 National Defense Authorization Act, to develop, fund, and staff a formal interagency entity to study, collect data, and report on UAP.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:2238-2535 administrative

  858. 858

    The Inspector General, U.S. Department of Defense determined that the combatant commands would be the logical organisations to detect, report, collect, and identify Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) incidents to the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO).

    “After a review of the laws, policies, and guidance issued by Congress, the DoD, and other Federal agencies, we determined that, while the Services and Components have an important role to play, the combatant commands would be the logical organizations to detect, report, collect, and identify UAP incidents to AARO.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:2892-3202 opinion first hand

  859. 859

    The James M. Inhofe National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023 (FY 2023 NDAA) defined Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) as unidentified anomalous phenomena, including airborne objects that are not immediately identifiable, transmedium objects or devices, and submerged objects or devices that are not immediately identifiable.

    “The FY 2023 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) defined UAP as "unidentified anomalous phenomena," which include: (a) airborne objects that are not immediately identifiable, (b) transmedium objects or devices, and (c) submerged objects or devices that are not immediately identifiable.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:3635-3913 administrative second hand

  860. 860

    According to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence's Preliminary Assessment on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, UAP are objects that are not immediately identifiable and lack a single explanation.

    “According to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence's Preliminary Assessment on UAP, UAP are objects that are not immediately identifiable, lack a single explanation, and fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural atmospheric phenomena, U.S. Government or industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems, and a catchall "other" category.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:4256-4647 administrative second hand

  861. 861

    The Office of the Director of National Intelligence's Preliminary Assessment on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena states that UAP fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural atmospheric phenomena, U.S. Government or industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems, and a catchall "other" category.

    “...fall into one of five potential explanatory categories: airborne clutter, natural atmospheric phenomena, U.S. Government or industry developmental programs, foreign adversary systems, and a catchall "other" category.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:4440-4647 administrative second hand

  862. 862

    United States Department of Defense (DoD) efforts to identify and understand Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) have been irregular because of competing priorities, lack of substantive progress, and inconclusive findings.

    “DoD efforts to identify and understand UAP have been irregular because of competing priorities, lack of substantive progress, and inconclusive findings.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:4715-4858 observation

  863. 863

    Military pilots have continued to report Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) incidents despite the sporadic efforts of the United States Department of Defense (DoD) to identify, report, and analyse the events.

    “However, military pilots have continued to report UAP incidents despite the sporadic efforts of the DoD to identify, report, and analyze the events.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:4868-5009 observation

  864. 864

    United States Congress included language about Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) concerns in the National Defense Authorization Acts for Fiscal Years 2019 through 2023 and in a Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report on the FY 2021 Intelligence Authorization Act.

    “As a result, Congressional committees included language about their UAP concerns in the FYs 2019 through 2023 NDAAs and a Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report on the FY 2021 Intelligence Authorization Act.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:5017-5228 administrative

  865. 865

    The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report on the FY 2021 Intelligence Authorization Act identified concerns that the U.S. Government did not have a unified, comprehensive process in place for collecting and analysing intelligence on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “In the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Report on the FY 2021 Intelligence Authorization Act, the Senate Select Committee identified concerns that the U.S. Government did not have a unified, comprehensive process in place for collecting and analyzing intelligence on UAP.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:5807-6081 administrative second hand

  866. 866

    In August 2020, the United States Department of Defense (DoD) established a UAP Task Force (UAPTF) to develop standardised reporting requirements for Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) encounters.

    “In response to Congress' concerns, in August 2020 the DoD established a UAP Task Force (UAPTF) to develop standardized reporting requirements for UAP encounters.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:6264-6414 administrative

  867. 867

    The Preliminary Assessment on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena stated that Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) reporting data are largely inconclusive.

    “...which stated that UAP reporting data are largely inconclusive...”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:6573-6622 administrative second hand

  868. 868

    The Preliminary Assessment on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena stated that consolidation of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) reports across the U.S. Government is inconsistent.

    “as well as a consolidation of reports across the U.S. Government is inconsistent.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:6636-6704 administrative second hand

  869. 869

    The Preliminary Assessment on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena stated that standardised reporting, increased collection and analysis, and a streamlined process for screening reports' relevant data would result in a more sophisticated analysis of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “Moreover, the Preliminary Assessment on UAP stated that standardized reporting, increased collection and analysis, and a streamlined process for screening reports' relevant data would result in a sophisticated analysis of UAP.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:6718-6940 administrative second hand

  870. 870

    The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022 (FY 2022 NDAA) required the United States Department of Defense (DoD) to establish a central office for all Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) matters with sufficient scope, authorities, responsibilities, and capabilities to continue UAP efforts.

    “The FY 2022 NDAA required the DoD to establish a central office for all UAP matters with sufficient scope, authorities, responsibilities, and capabilities to continue UAP efforts.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:7435-7606 administrative second hand

  871. 871

    The United States Department of Defense (DoD) has initiated infrequent and inconclusive efforts over past decades to identify and understand the origin, capabilities, and intent of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “Over the past decades, the DoD has initiated infrequent and inconclusive efforts to identify and understand the origin, capabilities, and intent of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:773-952 observation

  872. 872

    The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022 (FY 2022 NDAA) expanded the meaning of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) to include the water and space domains.

    “The FY 2022 NDAA also expanded the meaning of UAP to include the water and space domains...”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:8329-8410 administrative second hand

  873. 873

    The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022 (FY 2022 NDAA) required the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to synchronise and standardise efforts across the United States Department of Defense (DoD) to collect, report, and analyse Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) incidents.

    “synchronize and standardize efforts across the DoD to collect, report, and analyze UAP incidents;”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:8443-8530 administrative second hand

  874. 874

    The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022 (FY 2022 NDAA) required the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to develop processes and procedures to ensure Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) incidents are reported and included in a centralised database.

    “develop processes and procedures to ensure UAP incidents are reported and included in a centralized database; and”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:8543-8653 administrative second hand

  875. 875

    The National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022 (FY 2022 NDAA) required the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to coordinate with other departments and agencies, as well as allies and partners of the United States, as appropriate, to better assess the nature and extent of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “coordinate with other departments and agencies, as well as allies and partners of the United States, as appropriate, to better assess the nature and extent of UAP.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:8659-8818 administrative second hand

  876. 876

    The James M. Inhofe National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023 (FY 2023 NDAA) contained additional requirements for the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to establish a secure way for persons to report a Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) incident without being subject to a nondisclosure agreement or reprisal.

    “The FY 2023 NDAA contained additional requirements for AARO to establish a secure way for persons to report a UAP incident without being subject to a nondisclosure agreement or reprisal.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:8824-9001 administrative second hand

  877. 877

    Military pilots have historically reported many of the reported Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) sightings.

    “Military pilots have historically reported many of the reported UAP sightings.”

    Unclassified Summary of Report No. DODIG-2023-109, "Evaluation of the DoD's Actions Regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena," August 15, 2023 2024-01-24 char:958-1026 observation

  878. 878

    Advocates of the KONA BLUE program were convinced that the United States Government was hiding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) technologies.

    “KONA BLUE's advocates were convinced that the USG was hiding UAP technologies.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:100931-100996 opinion second hand

  879. 879

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) confirmed the existence of one Intelligence Community Controlled Access Program (CAP) that was unnecessarily expanded in 2021 to include a UAP reverse-engineering mission.

    “AARO confirmed the existence of one IC CAP that was unnecessarily expanded in 2021 to include a UAP reverse-engineering mission.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:102973-103093 administrative first hand

  880. 880

    The 2021 expansion of the Intelligence Community Controlled Access Program to include a UAP reverse-engineering mission occurred despite the lack of any evidence or mission need to justify the expansion.

    “This program was expanded despite the lack of any evidence or mission need to justify the expansion.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:103102-103192 administrative first hand

  881. 881

    None of the interviewees who claimed knowledge of alleged hidden UAP reverse-engineering programmes had firsthand knowledge of these programmes, as they were not approved for access to nor did they work on these efforts.

    “It is important to note that none of the interviewees had firsthand knowledge of these programs - they were not approved for access to nor did they work on these efforts”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:10376-10538 administrative first hand

  882. 882

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) assesses that the incidents of UAP sightings reported to United States Government organisations, the claims that some constitute extraterrestrial craft, and the claims that the United States Government has secured and is experimenting on alien technology, most likely are the result of a range of cultural, political, and technological factors.

    “AARO assesses that the incidents of UAP sightings reported to USG organizations, the claims that some constitute extraterrestrial craft, and the claims that the USG has secured and is experimenting on alien technology, most likely are the result of a range of cultural, political, and technological factors.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:105768-106067 opinion first hand

  883. 883

    The interviewees and others who mistakenly associated authentic sensitive national security programmes with UAP had incomplete or unauthorised access to these programmes.

    “The interviewees and others who have mistakenly associated authentic sensitive national security programs with UAP had incomplete or unauthorized access to these programs”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:10635-10797 opinion first hand

  884. 884

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) and its predecessor organisations concluded that the vast majority of UAP cases report on events that amount to ordinary objects, atmospheric and natural phenomena, and observer misidentification.

    “AARO and its predecessor organizations concluded that the vast majority of cases report on events that amount to ordinary objects, atmospheric and natural phenomena, and observer misidentification.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:106610-106831 opinion first hand

  885. 885

    During some early UFO investigation efforts, it was deemed essential to determine if UFOs were Soviet secret weapons or a psychological warfare operation aimed at causing public fear and generating hysteria to undermine U.S. societal morale.

    “During some early UFO investigation efforts, it was deemed essential to determine if UFOs were Soviet "secret weapons" or psychological warfare operations aimed at causing public fear and generating hysteria to undermine U.S. societal morale.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:108041-108276 administrative

  886. 886

    Discussion of authentic sensitive national security programmes mistaken for UAP outside of secure facilities presents a high risk of exposing national security information.

    “discussion of these programs outside of secure facilities presents a high risk of exposing national security information”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:10807-10916 opinion first hand

  887. 887

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) recognises that concern with competitor technological surprise, from the Russian Federation and the People's Republic of China, is still a real and legitimate driver of UAP investigations today.

    “AARO recognizes that concern with competitor technological surprise is still a real and legitimate driver of UAP investigations today.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:108475-108603 opinion first hand

  888. 888

    KONA BLUE was a UAP-related Prospective Special Access Program proposed to the Department of Homeland Security and supported by individuals who believed the United States Government was hiding off-world technology.

    “One named program was a UAP-related Prospective Special Access Program (PSAP) called KONA BLUE that was proposed to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and supported by individuals who believed the USG was hiding off-world technology.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:10934-11163 administrative first hand

  889. 889

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) assesses that the classification of prior United States Government UAP investigations has fuelled speculation that the government was hiding knowledge of extraterrestrials, when secrecy was and still is intended to protect sensitive military and intelligence community programs, capabilities, sources, and methods.

    “AARO assesses that the classification of prior USG investigations have fueled speculation that the government was hiding knowledge of extraterrestrials, when, in fact, secrecy was and still is intended to deliberately and thoughtfully protect sensitive military and intelligence community programs, capabilities, sources, and methods.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:109382-109708 opinion first hand

  890. 890

    Edward J. Ruppelt noted that there would be spikes in reported UFO sightings after official press events mentioning UFOs, suggesting that reports of sightings can influence the incidence of additional reported sightings.

    “noted that there would be spikes in reported sightings after official press events mentioning UFOs; suggesting that reports of sightings can influence the incidence of additional reported sightings.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:110251-110439 opinion first hand

  891. 891

    Edward J. Ruppelt noted that the inability to collect a UFO's altitude, size, and speed was a recurring and significant obstacle to resolving cases.

    “noted that the inability to collect the UFO's altitude, size, and speed was a recurring and significant obstacle to resolving cases.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:111463-111589 opinion first hand

  892. 892

    Most UAP sightings have no data associated with them beyond an often vague narrative account, and when there is hard data it is often incomplete or of poor quality.

    “Most UAP sightings have no data associated with them beyond an often vague narrative account; and when there is hard data, it is often incomplete or of poor quality.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:111689-111846 administrative

  893. 893

    Sensors on which UAP are most frequently captured in military reporting are calibrated and optimised for combat, not for scientific data collection.

    “the sensors on which UAP most frequently are captured are calibrated and optimized for combat.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:111887-111974 administrative

  894. 894

    In 2021, without sufficient justification, the scope of an Intelligence Community Controlled Access Program was expanded to protect UAP reverse-engineering.

    “In 2021, without sufficient justification, the scope of an IC Controlled Access Program was expanded to protect UAP reverse-engineering.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:11293-11417 administrative first hand

  895. 895

    There were waves of public interest in UAP in popular culture during the Cold War, especially during the 1950s.

    “Though there were waves of public interest in UAP in popular culture during the Cold War, especially during the 1950s”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:113876-113988 administrative

  896. 896

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) assesses that UAP content in popular culture is more pervasive now than ever before.

    “AARO assesses that UAP content in popular culture is more pervasive now than ever.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:113995-114072 opinion first hand

  897. 897

    Frequent exposure to the UAP topic through traditional and social media has increased the number of Americans who believe that UAP are of extraterrestrial origin, based on a 2021 Gallup poll.

    “Frequent exposure to the topic though traditional and social media has increased the number of Americans who believe that UAP are of extraterrestrial origin, based on a 2021 Gallup poll.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:114196-114377 measurement second hand

  898. 898

    The Intelligence Community Controlled Access Program expanded in 2021 to protect UAP reverse-engineering never recovered or reverse-engineered any UAP or extraterrestrial spacecraft.

    “This program never recovered or reverse-engineered any UAP or extraterrestrial spacecraft.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:11430-11509 administrative first hand

  899. 899

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) assesses that the majority of UAP sightings in the earlier decades of UAP investigations were the result of misidentification of ordinary phenomena and objects.

    “We assess that the majority of UAP sightings in the earlier decades of UAP investigations were the result of misidentification of ordinary phenomena and objects, based on AARO's findings of its own cases to date and the findings of all past investigatory efforts.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:115038-115293 opinion first hand

  900. 900

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) assesses that some portion of UAP misidentifications almost certainly were a result of the surge in new technologies that observers would have understandably reported as UFOs.

    “However, we assess that some portion of these misidentifications almost certainly were a result of the surge in new technologies that observers would have understandably reported as UFOs.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:115302-115484 opinion first hand

  901. 901

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) assesses that the reporting spikes in UAP sightings most likely are attributed to observers unknowingly having witnessed new technological advancements and testing, and reporting them as UFOs.

    “These reporting spikes most likely are attributed to observers unknowingly having witnessed new technological advancements and testing and reporting them as UFOs.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:117133-117290 opinion first hand

  902. 902

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) assesses that today, rocket exhaust plumes, micro-satellite trains, and Unmanned Aerial System (UAS) systems with odd morphologies are reported as UAP due to the same misidentification phenomenon.

    “is present today, such as in cases where rocket exhaust plumes, micro-satellite trains, and UAS systems with odd morphologies are reported as UAP.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:117679-117821 opinion first hand

  903. 903

    The secrecy surrounding the Manhattan Project and the establishment of several other national laboratories, such as Los Alamos National Laboratories, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Sandia National Laboratories, Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, and Oak Ridge National Laboratory, probably contributed to the spike in reported UAP.

    “The secrecy surrounding the Manhattan Project and the establishment of several other national laboratories, such as Los Alamos National Laboratories, Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Sandia National Laboratories, Pacific Northwest National Laboratory, and Oak Ridge National Laboratory to support this effort probably contributed to the spike in reported UAP.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:118704-119066 opinion

  904. 904

    Claims that the United States Government has recovered and hidden spacecraft date back to the 1940s and 1950s, but more modern instances of these claims largely stem from a consistent group of individuals who have been involved in various UAP-related endeavours since at least 2009.

    “AARO notes that although claims that the USG has recovered and hidden spacecraft date back to the 1940s and 1950s, more modern instances of these claims largely stem from a consistent group of individuals who have been involved in various UAP-related endeavors since at least 2009.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:11871-12147 opinion first hand

  905. 905

    More than half of the UFO reports investigated in the 1950s and 1960s were assessed to be United States reconnaissance flights, according to a declassified Central Intelligence Agency assessment on reconnaissance aircraft.

    “More than half of the UFO reports investigated in the 1950s and 1960s were assessed to be U.S. reconnaissance flights, according to a declassified CIA assessment on reconnaissance aircraft.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:122314-122494 administrative second hand

  906. 906

    UFO reports would spike when the U-2 Dragon Lady was in flight, especially from airline pilots reporting to Air Traffic Control.

    “The report noted that UFO reports would spike when the U-2 was in flight, especially from airline pilots to Air Traffic Control.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:123122-123242 administrative second hand

  907. 907

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office assesses that UAP sightings, reports of these sightings to United States Government organisations, and claims that the United States Government has secured and is experimenting on extraterrestrial technology have been influenced by a range of cultural, political, and technological factors.

    “AARO assesses that UAP sightings and reports of these sightings to USG organizations and claims that some UAP constitute extraterrestrial craft and that the USG has secured and is experimenting on extraterrestrial technology have been influenced by a range of cultural, political, and technological factors.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:12339-12638 opinion first hand

  908. 908

    The aggregate findings of all United States Government UAP investigations to date have not found even one case of UAP representing off-world technology.

    “The aggregate findings of all USG investigations to date have not found even one case of UAP representing off-world technology.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:12747-12863 administrative first hand

  909. 909

    None of the programmes mentioned by interviewees as evidence of an extraterrestrial cover-up are UAP reverse-engineering programmes, and all the authentic programmes have been properly notified and reported to Congress through the congressional defense and/or intelligence committees.

    “None of the programs mentioned by interviewees are UAP reverse-engineering programs, and all the authentic programs have been properly notified and reported to Congress through the congressional defense and/or intelligence committees.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:12877-13100 administrative first hand

  910. 910

    The research and development, flight testing, evaluation, deployment, and operation of drones - Unmanned Aerial Systems, Unmanned Aerial Vehicles, Remotely Piloted Aircraft, and Remotely Piloted Aircraft Systems - almost certainly resulted in reported sightings of UAP.

    “The research and development, flight testing, evaluation, deployment, and the operation of drones - Unmanned Aerial Systems (UAS), Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAV), Remotely Piloted Aircraft (RPA), and Remotely Piloted Aircraft Systems (RPAS) - almost certainly resulted in reported sightings of UAP.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:135543-135837 administrative

  911. 911

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office's examination of the historical context of UAP investigations from 1945 to the present found that domestic and international factors influenced sightings, reports, and belief that some UAP represent extraterrestrial technology.

    “AARO's examination of the historical context of UAP investigations from 1945 to the present reveals that these factors - some common to and distinct between the earlier era of UAP investigations (pre-2009) and the modern era (post-2009) - undoubtedly influenced the direction of these investigations, the volume of and spikes in sightings, and the overall public interest, concern, and debate.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:13693-14079 opinion first hand

  912. 912

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office divides the historical context of UAP investigations into a pre-2009 era and a post-2009 modern era because 2009 is the year of the standup of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program and Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program efforts.

    “These periods are divided into pre- and post-2009 timeframe because this is the year of the standup of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program (AAWSAP) and Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) efforts.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:14087-14318 administrative first hand

  913. 913

    Prior to the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program and Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, there was about a 40-year gap in UAP investigation programmes since the termination of Project BLUE BOOK in 1969.

    “Prior to AAWSAP/AATIP there was about a 40 year gap in UAP investigation programs since the termination of Project BLUE BOOK in 1969.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:14327-14455 administrative first hand

  914. 914

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) has not discovered any empirical evidence that any sighting of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) represented off-world technology or the existence of a classified program that had not been properly reported to United States Congress.

    “To date, AARO has not discovered any empirical evidence that any sighting of a UAP represented off-world technology or the existence a classified program that had not been properly reported to Congress.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:144363-144556 administrative second hand

  915. 915

    AARO's investigative efforts determined that most UAP sightings were the result of misidentification of ordinary objects and phenomena.

    “Investigative efforts determined that most sightings were the result of misidentification of ordinary objects and phenomena.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:144569-144683 administrative second hand

  916. 916

    Common contextual factors between earlier and modern UAP investigations include a rapidly evolving and dynamic national security environment, concern about technological surprise, intense secrecy related to government military programmes, public interest in UAP, perceived bureaucratic barriers, and the persistent lack of quality data.

    “Common contextual factors between earlier and modern investigations include a rapidly evolving and dynamic national security environment, concern about technological surprise, intense secrecy related to government military programs, public interest in UAP, perceived bureaucratic barriers, and the persistent lack of quality data.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:14464-14789 opinion first hand

  917. 917

    AARO assesses that if additional, quality data were available, most unsolved UAP cases could also be identified and resolved as ordinary objects or phenomena.

    “Although many UAP reports remain unsolved, AARO assesses that if additional, quality data were available, most of these cases also could be identified and resolved as ordinary objects or phenomena.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:144694-144881 opinion second hand

  918. 918

    Contextual factors distinct between earlier and modern UAP investigations include differences in the level of public trust in the government, the large volume of popular culture content related to UAP, and the perception within some segments of the population that the United States Government is hiding extraterrestrial technology.

    “Some contextual factors that were distinct between earlier and modern investigations include: differences in the level of public trust in the government; the large volume of popular culture content related to UAP; the perception within some segments of the population that the USG is hiding extraterrestrial technology”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:14797-15105 opinion first hand

  919. 919

    Since 1945, the United States Government has funded and supported UAP investigations with the goal of determining whether UAP represented technological leaps by competitor nations.

    “Since 1945, the USG has funded and supported UAP investigations with the goal of determining whether UAP represented a flight safety risk, technological leaps by competitor nations, or evidence of off-world technology under intelligent control.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:1502-1738 administrative second hand

  920. 920

    Since 1945, the United States Government has funded and supported UAP investigations with the goal of determining whether UAP represented a flight safety risk.

    “Since 1945, the USG has funded and supported UAP investigations with the goal of determining whether UAP represented a flight safety risk, technological leaps by competitor nations, or evidence of off-world technology under intelligent control.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:1502-1738 administrative second hand

  921. 921

    Since 1945, the United States Government has funded and supported UAP investigations with the goal of determining whether UAP represented evidence of off-world technology under intelligent control.

    “Since 1945, the USG has funded and supported UAP investigations with the goal of determining whether UAP represented a flight safety risk, technological leaps by competitor nations, or evidence of off-world technology under intelligent control.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:1502-1738 administrative second hand

  922. 922

    Contextual factors distinct between earlier and modern UAP investigations include unauthorised disclosures of classified programmes mistaken for UAP observations, the proliferation of online sources that reinforce these beliefs, the impact of social media on circular reporting, and the rapid spread of misinformation.

    “unauthorized disclosures of classified programs mistaken for UAP observations; the proliferation of online sources that reinforce these beliefs; the impact that social media has had on circular reporting; and the rapid spread of misinformation.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:15117-15346 opinion first hand

  923. 923

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office assesses that some portion of UAP sightings since the 1940s have represented misidentification of never-before-seen experimental and operational space, rocket, and air systems, including stealth technologies and the proliferation of drone platforms.

    “AARO assesses that some portion of sightings since the 1940s have represented misidentification of never-before-seen experimental and operational space, rocket, and air systems, including stealth technologies and the proliferation of drone platforms.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:15366-15606 opinion first hand

  924. 924

    Many experimental technologies developed from the 1940s to the 1960s fit the description of a stereotypical Unidentified Flying Object.

    “Many of these technologies fit the description of a stereotypical Unidentified Flying Object (UFO).”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:15809-15903 opinion first hand

  925. 925

    The Historical Record Report is provided by the Department of Defense in response to a requirement established in Section 6802(j) of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023, which requires a written report detailing the historical record of the United States Government relating to UAP submitted to congressional defense and intelligence committees and congressional leadership not later than 540 days after enactment of the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023.

    “This HR2 is provided by DoD in response to a requirement established in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for FY 2023, Section 6802(j), which states: "Not later than 540 days after the date of the enactment of the Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023, the Director of the Office shall submit to the congressional defense committees, the congressional intelligence committees and the congressional leadership a written report detailing the historical record of the United States Government relating to unidentified anomalous phenomena."”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:16531-17082 administrative second hand

  926. 926

    United States Government UAP investigations since 1945 were managed and implemented under differing leaders by a range of experts, scientists, academics, military, and intelligence officials who held their own perspectives leading to particular conclusions on the origins of UAP.

    “These investigations were managed and implemented by a range of experts, scientists, academics, military, and intelligence officials under differing leaders - all of whom held their own perspectives that led them to particular conclusions on the origins of UAP.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:1747-2004 administrative second hand

  927. 927

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office interviewed approximately 30 people who claimed to have insight into alleged United States Government involvement in off-world technology exploitation or to possess knowledge of UAP that have allegedly disrupted U.S. nuclear facilities in the past.

    “AARO interviewed approximately 30 people who claimed to have insight into alleged USG involvement in off-world technology exploitation or to possess knowledge of UAP that have allegedly disrupted U.S. nuclear facilities in the past.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:17624-17851 administrative second hand

  928. 928

    All United States Government UAP investigators since 1945 shared the belief that UAP represented an unknown that theoretically posed a potential threat of an indeterminate nature.

    “they all had in common the belief that UAP represented an unknown and, therefore, theoretically posed a potential threat of an indeterminate nature”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:2018-2159 administrative second hand

  929. 929

    All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) considers use of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) naming convention, while imperfect, the best manner to characterise the multitude of unidentified reported sightings.

    “Use of the UAP naming convention, while imperfect, is the best manner in which to characterize the multitude of unidentified reported sightings.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:20484-20618 opinion second hand

  930. 930

    All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) considers the term Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) as applied to all potential possibilities to provide a false sense of commonality regarding their origins, identity, purpose, type, and threat posed.

    “AARO understands that the use of "UAP" to refer to *all* potential possibilities provides a false sense of commonality; such as their origins, identity, purpose, type, and threat they may pose.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:20629-20817 opinion second hand

  931. 931

    The only commonality shared by objects and events classified as Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) is that they are each, at least initially, unidentified.

    “The only commonality that they all share, at least initially, is that they are each unidentified.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:20823-20907 opinion second hand

  932. 932

    One line of effort for the AARO Historical Record Report (HR2) was to conduct open-source research, through historical interviews, on claims about United States Government investigations of, contact with, and recovery of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), as well as exploitation of alleged UAP material and technology.

    “Conduct open-source research on claims (through historical interviews) about USG investigations of, contact with, and recovery of UAP, as well as exploitation of alleged UAP material and technology.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:22138-22327 administrative second hand

  933. 933

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office applies both the scientific method and intelligence analysis tradecraft to identify and help mitigate risks UAP may pose to domain safety.

    “AARO methodology applies both the scientific method and intelligence analysis tradecraft to identify and help mitigate risks UAP may pose to domain safety and to discover, characterize, and attribute potential competitor technological systems.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:2234-2469 administrative second hand

  934. 934

    One line of effort for the AARO Historical Record Report (HR2) was to conduct historical interviews of individuals who claim knowledge of alleged United States Government activities related to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “Conduct historical interviews of individuals who claim knowledge of alleged USG activities related to UAP.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:22559-22663 administrative second hand

  935. 935

    One line of effort for the AARO Historical Record Report (HR2) was to partner with the United States National Archives on locating Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) data, refining requests based on new leads derived from historical interviews and open-source and classified research.

    “Partner with the U.S. National Archives on locating UAP data, refining requests based on the discovery of new leads derived from historical interviews, as well as open-source and classified research.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:22672-22864 administrative second hand

  936. 936

    One line of effort for the AARO Historical Record Report (HR2) was to engage with commercial entities alleged to have worked with the United States Government on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) recovery and alleged exploitation of UAP technology.

    “Engage with commercial entities on named companies alleged to have worked with the USG on UAP recovery and alleged exploitation of UAP technology.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:22878-23015 administrative second hand

  937. 937

    All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) reviewed official United States Government efforts involving UFOs/Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) since 1945.

    “AARO reviewed official USG efforts involving UFOs/UAP since 1945.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:23433-23493 administrative second hand

  938. 938

    According to one source, General Nathan Twining, Commander of the Air Technical Services Command, established Project SAUCER on 1947-12-30 to collect and evaluate all information relating to UFO sightings that could be construed as of concern to national security.

    “According to one source, General Nathan Twining, Commander of the Air Technical Services Command, established Project SAUCER on December 30, 1947, to collect and evaluate all information relating to UFO sightings which could be construed as of concern to the national security.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:24970-25280 hearsay second hand

  939. 939

    Project SIGN evaluated 243 reported UFO sightings.

    “The project evaluated 243 reported UFO sightings”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:27995-28034 measurement

  940. 940

    Project GRUDGE investigated 244 reports of UFO sightings.

    “Project GRUDGE investigated 244 reports of UFO sightings.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:30909-30956 measurement

  941. 941

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office assesses that the proliferation of television programmes, books, movies, and internet and social media content centred on UAP-related topics has most likely influenced the public conversation on the topic and reinforced belief in a government cover-up within some sections of the population.

    “The proliferation of television programs, books, movies, and the vast amount of internet and social media content centered on UAP-related topics most likely has influenced the public conversation on this topic, and reinforced these beliefs within some sections of the population.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:3178-3446 opinion first hand

  942. 942

    The goal of the Historical Record Report is not to prove or disprove any particular belief set, but to use a rigorous analytic and scientific approach to investigate past United States Government-sponsored UAP investigation efforts and claims that the United States Government and various contractors have recovered and are hiding off-world technology and biological material.

    “The goal of this report is not to prove or disprove any particular belief set, but rather to use a rigorous analytic and scientific approach to investigate past USG-sponsored UAP investigation efforts and the claims made by interviewees that the USG and various contractors have recovered and are hiding off-world technology and biological material.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:3459-3799 administrative second hand

  943. 943

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office found no evidence that any United States Government investigation, academic-sponsored research, or official review panel has confirmed that any sighting of a UAP represented extraterrestrial technology.

    “AARO found no evidence that any USG investigation, academic-sponsored research, or official review panel has confirmed that any sighting of a UAP represented extraterrestrial technology.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:4289-4464 administrative first hand

  944. 944

    All investigative efforts into UAP, at all levels of classification, concluded that most sightings were ordinary objects and phenomena and the result of misidentification.

    “All investigative efforts, at all levels of classification, concluded that most sightings were ordinary objects and phenomena and the result of misidentification.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:4479-4623 administrative first hand

  945. 945

    All official foreign UAP investigatory efforts to date have reached the same general conclusions as United States Government investigations, that most sightings are ordinary objects and phenomena.

    “it is worthwhile to note that all official foreign UAP investigatory efforts to date have reached the same general conclusions as USG investigations”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:4681-4815 administrative first hand

  946. 946

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office assesses that if more and better quality data were available, most unsolved UAP cases also could be identified and resolved as ordinary objects or phenomena.

    “AARO assesses that if more and better quality data were available, most of these cases also could be identified and resolved as ordinary objects or phenomena.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:4893-5041 opinion first hand

  947. 947

    The vast majority of UAP cases lack actionable data or the data available is limited or of poor quality.

    “Sensors and visual observations are imperfect; the vast majority of cases lack actionable data or the data available is limited or of poor quality.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:5052-5191 opinion first hand

  948. 948

    Resources and staffing for United States Government UAP investigation programmes largely have been irregular and sporadic, challenging investigatory efforts and hindering effective knowledge transfer.

    “Resources and staffing for these programs largely have been irregular and sporadic, challenging investigatory efforts and hindering effective knowledge transfer.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:5202-5354 opinion first hand

  949. 949

    The vast majority of UAP reports almost certainly are the result of misidentification and a direct consequence of the lack of domain awareness.

    “The vast majority of reports almost certainly are the result of misidentification and a direct consequence of the lack of domain awareness”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:5366-5495 opinion first hand

  950. 950

    There is a direct correlation between the amount and quality of available information on a UAP case and the ability to conclusively resolve it.

    “there is a direct correlation between the amount and quality of available information on a case with the ability to conclusively resolve it”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:5506-5643 opinion first hand

  951. 951

    AARO's Historical Record Report (HR2) Volume I reviews the record of the United States Government pertaining to unidentified anomalous phenomena since 1945.

    “This report represents Volume I of the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office's (AARO) Historical Record Report (HR2) which reviews the record of the United States Government (USG) pertaining to unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP).”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:654-881 administrative second hand

  952. 952

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office found no evidence of any authentic UAP-related Nondisclosure Agreement or other evidence threatening death or violence for disclosing UAP information.

    “AARO has found no evidence of any authentic UAP-related NDA or other evidence threatening death or violence for disclosing UAP information.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:6654-6781 administrative first hand

  953. 953

    The alleged 1961 Special National Intelligence Estimate on UFOs, which was leaked to online sources and suggests the extraterrestrial nature of UFOs, is inauthentic.

    “An alleged 1961 Special National Intelligence Estimate that was "leaked" to online sources and suggests the extraterrestrial nature of "UFOs," is inauthentic.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:7199-7345 administrative first hand

  954. 954

    The primary narrative asserts that an alleged UAP programme possesses as many as 12 extraterrestrial spacecraft.

    “The narrative asserts that this UAP program possesses as many as 12 extraterrestrial spacecraft.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:81165-81250 hearsay second hand

  955. 955

    An interviewee's claim of witnessing what he believed to be the testing of extraterrestrial technology at a United States Government facility almost certainly was an observation of an authentic, non-UAP-related, technology test that strongly correlated in time, location, and description with the interviewee's account.

    “An interviewee claim that he witnessed what he believed to be the testing of extraterrestrial technology at a USG facility almost certainly was an observation of an authentic, non-UAP-related, technology test that strongly correlated in time, location, and description provided in the interviewee's account.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:8195-8494 testimony second hand

  956. 956

    The same anonymous interviewee reported that on another occasion in the 1990s he personally observed an unidentified flying object exhibiting a peculiar flight pattern at a United States military facility.

    “The interviewee also reported that on another occasion in the 1990s he observed an "unidentified flying object" at a U.S. military facility. The interviewee described the object as exhibiting a peculiar flight pattern.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:83600-83810 observation second hand

  957. 957

    The secondary narrative alleges that a cluster of UAP sightings occurring near United States nuclear facilities resulted in the malfunctioning and destruction of nuclear missiles and a test reentry vehicle.

    “The other narrative is that ***a cluster of UAP sightings that occurred in close proximity to U.S. nuclear facilities have resulted in the malfunctioning and destruction of nuclear missiles and a test reentry vehicle.***”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:85187-85396 hearsay second hand

  958. 958

    Interviewees claimed that between 2004 and 2007 the White House requested a research institute in Virginia study the theoretical societal impacts of disclosing that UAP are extraterrestrial in origin.

    “Interviewees' claims that between 2004 and 2007 the White House requested a research institute in Virginia study the theoretical societal impacts of disclosing that UAP are extraterrestrial in origin”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:8531-8724 hearsay second hand

  959. 959

    Some of the interviewed former Air Force members claim UAP sightings near intercontinental ballistic missile silos, while others claim UAP disruptions to intercontinental ballistic missile operations.

    “Some of these individuals claim UAP sightings near the silos, while others claim UAP disruptions to ICBM operations.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:85627-85732 testimony second hand

  960. 960

    One interviewee and a United States Air Force videographer claimed to have observed and recorded a UAP destroying an intercontinental ballistic missile loaded with a "dummy" warhead mid-flight.

    “Additionally, one interviewee and a USAF videographer claimed to have observed and recorded a UAP destroying an ICBM loaded with a "dummy" warhead, mid-flight.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:85852-86004 testimony second hand

  961. 961

    To meet the direction of Section 1673 of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2023, AARO sent guidance and requests to the Department of Defense, Intelligence Community elements, the Department of Energy, and the Department of Homeland Security to review and provide any nondisclosure agreements pertaining to UAP.

    “In the conduct of this review, and to meet the direction of Section 1673 of the NDAA for FY 2023, AARO sent guidance and requests to DoD, IC elements, DOE, and DHS to review and provide any NDAs pertaining to UAP (or its previous names).”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:86576-86806 administrative first hand

  962. 962

    As of the report's writing, AARO personnel have not discovered or been notified of any nondisclosure agreements that contain information related to UAP.

    “To date, AARO personnel have not discovered or been notified of any NDAs that contain information related to UAP.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:86814-86923 administrative first hand

  963. 963

    Apart from standard nondisclosure agreement language in Title 18, Section 794 describing the death penalty or jail time for illegally disclosing national defense information, AARO has not discovered any nondisclosure agreements containing threats to interviewees for disclosing UAP-specific information.

    “Also, apart from the standard NDA language contained in Title 18, Section 794 describing the death penalty or jail time for illegally disclosing information relating to the national defense, AARO has not discovered any NDAs containing threats to interviewees for disclosing UAP-specific information.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:86928-87215 administrative first hand

  964. 964

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office confirmed that a study of the theoretical societal impacts of disclosing that UAP are extraterrestrial in origin was conducted by a research institute in Virginia, but it was not requested by the White House.

    “AARO confirmed the study was conducted, but it was not requested by the White House.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:8732-8810 administrative first hand

  965. 965

    AARO correlated an interviewee's account of a UAP with peculiar characteristics with an authentic Department of Defense special access programme, because the interviewee provided a relatively precise time and location for the sighting.

    “AARO was able to correlate this account with an authentic USG program because the interviewee was able to provide a relatively precise time and location of the sighting which they observed exhibiting strange characteristics.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:92005-92213 administrative first hand

  966. 966

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office concluded that a sample from an alleged crashed off-world spacecraft, acquired from a private UAP investigating organisation and the United States Army, is a manufactured, terrestrial alloy and does not represent off-world technology or possess any exceptional qualities.

    “AARO has concluded that a sample from an alleged crashed off-world spacecraft that AARO acquired from a private UAP investigating organization and the U.S. Army is a manufactured, terrestrial alloy and does not represent off-world technology or possess any exceptional qualities.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:9297-9566 measurement first hand

  967. 967

    The organisation that fabricated a replica of the metallic sample made the attempt at the same specific location cited by the interviewee as the location where the interviewee alleged to have participated in discussions about transferring UAP crash materials.

    “The same organization (AARO case files) made an attempt to replicate the sample at the same specific location cited by the interviewee (AARO case files) as the location where the interviewee alleged to have participated in discussions about transferring UAP crash materials.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:95159-95423 administrative first hand

  968. 968

    AARO continues to investigate historical nuclear-related UAP cases due to the sensitive nature of these events potentially impacting the readiness of the U.S. nuclear programme, despite very little actionable data existing beyond limited firsthand narrative accounts.

    “Like all historical UAP cases, very little actionable data exists beyond limited firsthand narrative accounts. Nevertheless, AARO continues to investigate these cases due to the sensitive nature of these events potentially impacting the readiness of the U.S. nuclear program.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:95646-95913 administrative first hand

  969. 969

    Although AARO has not been able to recover the alleged film of a ballistic missile reentry vehicle being shot down by a UAP in 1964, AARO was able to correlate the general time and location with an antiballistic missile test, which could have been the genesis for the observation.

    “Although AARO has not been able to recover the alleged film of the ballistic missile reentry vehicle being shot down by a UAP in 1964, AARO was able to correlate the general time and location with an antiballistic missile test, which could have been the genesis for this observation.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:95922-96193 administrative first hand

  970. 970

    AARO investigated numerous named and described but unnamed programmes alleged to involve UAP exploitation, conveyed to AARO through official interviews.

    “AARO investigated numerous named, and described, but unnamed programs alleged to involve UAP exploitation conveyed to AARO through official interviews.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:96284-96424 administrative first hand

  971. 971

    Although at least one interviewee claimed to have seen a captured UAP, none of the interviewees had direct access to or firsthand knowledge of the programmes alleged to be UAP-related.

    “Although at least one interviewee claimed to have seen a captured UAP, none of the interviewees had direct access to or firsthand knowledge of the programs alleged to be UAP-related.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:96436-96610 administrative first hand

  972. 972

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office assesses that all named and described alleged hidden UAP reverse-engineering programmes provided by interviewees either do not exist, are misidentified authentic highly sensitive national security programmes unrelated to extraterrestrial technology exploitation, or resolve to an unwarranted and disestablished programme.

    “AARO assesses that all of the named and described alleged hidden UAP reverse-engineering programs provided by interviewees either do not exist; are misidentified authentic, highly sensitive national security programs that are not related to extraterrestrial technology exploitation; or resolve to an unwarranted and disestablished program.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:9793-10124 opinion first hand

  973. 973

    AARO determined that the Virtual Institute for Satellite Integration Training programme, alleged by an interviewee to be a USG programme, is not a USG-funded and supported effort but a programme operated by a private UAP organisation.

    “Virtual Institute for Satellite Integration Training - This program is not a USG-funded and supported effort. It was a program operated by a private UAP organization and had a NASA engineer as a participant.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:98579-98774 administrative first hand

  974. 974

    While the official purpose of the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program was to conduct research into 12 areas of cutting edge science, the contractor team, and at least one supportive government programme manager, also conducted UAP and paranormal research at a property owned by the private sector organisation.

    “As discussed in Section IV of this report, while the official purpose of AAWSAP/AATIP was to conduct research into 12 areas of cutting edge science, the contractor team, and at least one supportive government program manager, also conducted UAP and paranormal research at a property owned by the private sector organization.”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:99409-99720 administrative first hand

  975. 975

    When the Defense Intelligence Agency cancelled the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program/Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, its supporters proposed to the Department of Homeland Security that they create and fund a new version of the programme under a special access programme, codenamed KONA BLUE.

    “When DIA cancelled this program, its supporters proposed to DHS that they create and fund a new version of AAWSAP/AATIP under a SAP. (AARO case files) This proposal, codenamed KONA BLUE, would restart UAP investigations, paranormal research (including alleged "huma”

    Report on the Historical Record of U.S. Government Involvement with Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), Volume I 2024-02-01 char:99735-99987 administrative first hand

  976. 976

    The National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), Robert Bigelow's research organisation, studied Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and the paranormal during the 1990s.

    “The National Institute for Discovery Science (NIDS), his research organization, had studied UAP and the paranormal back in the 1990s.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:1387-1514 administrative first hand

  977. 977

    Alfredo Moacyr de Mendonça Uchôa devoted more than thirty years of his life to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and other paranormal and mystical studies.

    “and devoted more than thirty years of his life to that subject and other paranormal and mystical studies.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:3678-3775 administrative first hand

  978. 978

    Paulo Roberto Yog de Miranda Uchôa became the point man for a massive archive associated with Brazil's most disturbing Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encounters.

    “He had become the point man for a massive archive associated with Brazil’s most disturbing UAP encounters.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:3980-4075 administrative first hand

  979. 979

    At the time of the dinner, the programme run by Jim Semivan was not sharing Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) data with other nations, out of concern for national security.

    “At this point in time, Jim’s program wasn’t sharing UAP data with other nations, out of a concern for national security.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:4318-4429 administrative first hand

  980. 980

    Robert Bigelow's team planned to compile a database listing every factoid of the Brazil Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) events so it could be searched instantly and scanned for commonalities.

    “Bob Bigelow’s team planned to compile a database listing every single factoid of the Brazil events, so it could be searched instantly and scanned for commonalities.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch10:4922-5072 administrative first hand

  981. 981

    Eric Davis attended several senior-level meetings with various branches of the US military at which he detailed the Legacy Program's long-running efforts involving UAP.

    “Eric attended several senior-level meetings, to which I was invited, with various branches of the US military. During these meetings, Eric detailed the Legacy Program’s long-running efforts involving UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:12870-13096 testimony first hand

  982. 982

    The Skinwalker Ranch research contract started in 2008, after which teams of researchers went to the ranch to investigate and collect data on anomalous activity, including UAP sightings.

    “since the contract started in 2008, teams of researchers had been going out to the ranch to investigate and collect data on anomalous activity, including UAP sightings”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:1373-1531 administrative first hand

  983. 983

    Harold Puthoff told Luis Elizondo that not every incoming US president is told the truth about UAP.

    ““Is every incoming president told the truth?” “No.””

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:14232-14279 testimony first hand

  984. 984

    Harold Puthoff told Luis Elizondo that the Department of Defense (DoD) regards presidents, elected officials, and political appointees as temporary hires who do not need to know classified UAP information, and that US presidents do not typically get briefed on it unless something happens or they push for it, and those who have been briefed have only been given the most basic information.

    ““The sad truth is, DoD regards presidents, elected officials, and political appointees as temporary hires. They do not need to know since they will not be in their position for very long. Unless something happens or they really push for it, US presidents do not get briefed, and those who have been briefed have only been given the most basic information.””

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:14499-14841 opinion first hand

  985. 985

    Luis Elizondo considers the 1947 Roswell UAP crash to have set the universal UAP playbook the US government has followed for reacting to UAP incidents ever since, consisting of steps including admitting nothing and denying everything, making counteraccusations, retrieving crashed craft pieces, moving retrieved materials to undisclosed locations, reverse-engineering the technology in secret, locking down scientists and engineers near the wreckage, intimidating and discrediting witnesses, and stigmatising the topic.

    “Roswell codified how this nation and all others would react to future UAP incidents going forward. The US government scripted the universal UAP playbook in the hours and days following that mysterious incident in New Mexico: 1. Admit nothing and deny everything. 2. Make counteraccusations. 3. Retrieve the pieces of the crashed craft. 4. Whisk the retrieved materials away to undisclosed locations. 5. Work in secret to reverse-engineer this vastly superior technology. Lock down all scientists and engineers who come near the recovered wreckage. 6. Intimidate witnesses into saying nothing. Discredit those who don’t play along. Make them look crazy. Paint abductees as country bumpkins or glory-seeking frauds. Stigmatize outside researchers who attempt to intelligently glean truth. Stigmatize the topic.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:16497-17329 opinion first hand

  986. 986

    The US government's UAP playbook includes threatening anyone who speaks about UAP with the US Espionage Act and the promise to execute anyone who defies their secrecy oath, invoking what happened to Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for selling atomic secrets to the Soviet Union.

    “Threaten anyone who utters a single word about this topic with the US Espionage Act and the promise to execute anyone who defies their secrecy oath, by reminding them of what happened to Julius and Ethel Rosenberg for selling atomic secrets to the Soviet Union.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:17339-17594 opinion first hand

  987. 987

    Luis Elizondo considers most scientists to not even know that UAP are real, and attributes this to a successful cover-up and disinformation campaign.

    “The cover-up and disinformation campaign has been so successful that most scientists do not even know UAP are real.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:18684-18794 opinion first hand

  988. 988

    Luis Elizondo believes China and Russia do not have the same stigma around UAP as the United States and can employ their scientists to work on the topic.

    “China and Russia do not have the same stigma and can employ their scientists to work on this topic for them.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:19009-19138 opinion first hand

  989. 989

    Jim Lacatski and his team pursued the investigation of anomalous phenomena at Skinwalker Ranch because the science warranted further investigation and they could not rule out a link between the anomalous events and UAP.

    “Jim and his team had gone down this path for the simplest reason imaginable: the science warranted further investigation of these strange phenomena, and they could not yet rule out the possibility that these anomalous events and UAP were inextricably linked”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:2117-2368 testimony second hand

  990. 990

    Luis Elizondo spent time reading historical government records on UAP that he had access to through his security credentials.

    “I spent my time reading historical government records on UAP, which I had access to thanks to my credentials”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:2431-2528 testimony first hand

  991. 991

    At Jim Lacatski's suggestion, Luis Elizondo used his government computer to search terms including "unknown technology", "unusual performance", "anomaly", "unidentified", "UFO", and "UAP".

    “At Jim’s suggestion, I used my government computer to search terms including *unknown technology*, *unusual performance*, *anomaly*, *unidentified*, *UFO*, *UAP*.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:2635-2792 testimony first hand

  992. 992

    Luis Elizondo found that the search terms "lights" plus "sky" yielded good results when searching government records for UAP incidents.

    “The words *lights* plus *sky* yielded good results.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:2799-2842 observation first hand

  993. 993

    Luis Elizondo found that the search terms "unidentified" plus "radar" were good for finding incidents not originally flagged as UAP incidents by their writers.

    “The terms *unidentified* plus *radar* were also good for digging up incidents that were not flagged by their original writers as UAP incidents.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:2851-2984 observation first hand

  994. 994

    Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) have interfered with nuclear weapons in multiple locations around the world, bringing the global superpowers close to war.

    “Though it is not common knowledge among civilians, UAP have trifled with nuclear weapons all over the world, bringing the global superpowers close to war.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:30713-30863 opinion

  995. 995

    On more than one occasion, the United States dispatched bombers in anticipation of a nuclear attack by the Soviet Union before realising that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) had caused the Soviets to ready their missiles in error.

    “On more than one occasion, the US dispatched bombers in anticipation of a nuclear attack by the Soviet Union before the US realized that UAP had caused the Soviets to ready their missiles in error.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:34697-34888 observation

  996. 996

    On other occasions, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) have taken United States nuclear weapons offline so the US could not launch if the president had given the order.

    “On other occasions, UAP have taken US nuclear weapons offline, so we couldn't launch if the president had given the order.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:34989-35105 observation

  997. 997

    Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) have never stopped humans from dropping atomic bombs on Japan, making the leap from atomic to nuclear weapons, the disasters at Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, or Fukushima, or the proliferation of nuclear technology.

    “They did not stop us from dropping atomic bombs on Japan. UAP did not stop us from making the leap from atomic to nuclear weapons. UAP did not stop the disasters at Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, or Fukushima. UAP did not stop the proliferation of nuclear technology from getting into the hands of more nations.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:35655-35957 opinion

  998. 998

    Modern military witnesses to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are equipped with sophisticated imaging tools, including radar, infrared imaging, and high-resolution gun cameras, unlike witnesses in the 1950s and 1960s.

    “modern military witnesses to UAP are equipped with some of the most sophisticated imaging tools known to humans. They can capture evidence of these UAP with radar, infrared imaging, and high-resolution gun cameras.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:38083-38289 observation first hand

  999. 999

    The United States now has hyperspectral imaging capabilities on the ground, at sea, in the air, and in space that can be used to observe Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “unlike the 1950s, we now have hyperspectral imaging capabilities on the ground, at sea, in the air, and even in space.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:38302-38414 observation first hand

  1000. 1000

    Some government experts who studied historical Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) reports concluded that UAP aircraft are too variable in design to share the same origin, but may share a common advanced physics or understanding that functions the same way across different aircraft configurations.

    “the prevailing wisdom among government experts was that UAP aircraft are too variable to have the same origin, but maybe they share a common understanding or advanced physics, and the technology works the same way between the different configurations of aircraft.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:39122-39376 opinion

  1001. 1001

    William "Will" Livingston presided over a little-known "weird desk" at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) in charge of investigating unusual medical issues, implants, and abductions related to UAP encounters.

    “For years he presided over the little-known “weird desk” at the CIA, in charge of investigating unusual medical issues, implants, and abductions, all related to UAP encounters and anything strange.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:4024-4213 testimony first hand

  1002. 1002

    Italy has logged 15,000 Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) events since 1901.

    “Italy has logged 15,000 UAP events since 1901.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:42668-42710 measurement

  1003. 1003

    William "Will" Livingston, in conversation with Luis Elizondo, argued that a technology which is unexplained could plausibly cause negative biological consequences to those exposed to it.

    ““UAP aside, any technology that can perform like that,” he said, “something for which we have no explanation of how it works… Why would you presume there *wouldn’t* be any negative biological consequences if you fool around with it?””

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:5265-5493 opinion first hand

  1004. 1004

    Edgar Mitchell grew up on a ranch in the Roswell, New Mexico area, which contributed to his lifelong championing of the UAP topic.

    “He was also a longtime champion of the UAP topic, due to his childhood growing up on a ranch in the Roswell, New Mexico, area and what he had since learned as an astronaut.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch12:8252-8440 administrative first hand

  1005. 1005

    Luis Elizondo learned firsthand about disturbing and surprising matters related to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), including implants and biological effects.

    “especially since I had been learning firsthand about disturbing and surprising matters related to UAP, from implants to biological effects, and Jay's other work that I would soon learn about”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch13:8770-8955 testimony first hand

  1006. 1006

    Over decades, military people learned that UAP are to be explained away or ignored, and talking about the subject is considered a definitive career killer.

    “Over decades, military people had learned that UAP are to be explained away or, better yet, ignored. Talking about the subject is a definitive career killer.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:15522-15672 opinion first hand

  1007. 1007

    Historically, the moment a pilot's integrity or judgement is questioned regarding a UAP report, they are usually grounded and relegated to a desk job for the remainder of their career.

    “Historically, the moment a pilot’s integrity or judgment is questioned, they are usually grounded and relegated to “flying a desk” the remainder of their career.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:15680-15834 opinion first hand

  1008. 1008

    Those who saw or learned too much about UAP were silenced with non-disclosure agreements and threats, creating a culture of silence.

    “This stigma created a culture of silence. And those who saw or learned too much were silenced further with nondisclosure agreements and threats.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:16063-16199 opinion first hand

  1009. 1009

    For nearly two weeks leading up to the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter, radar operators aboard the USS Princeton regularly logged over one hundred UAP in the air surrounding the vessels.

    “For nearly two weeks leading up to the incident, the radar operators aboard the *Princeton* had regularly logged UAP activity in the air surrounding the vessels. Over one hundred UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:1905-2084 observation

  1010. 1010

    UAP have been known to jam radar.

    “UAP have been known to jam radar.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch15:8290-8317 opinion first hand

  1011. 1011

    In a hallway conversation at the Pentagon, Devon Woods told Luis Elizondo that he believed the US government already knew what UAP are.

    “"Lue, you know we already know what these things are, right?"”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:10383-10436 opinion first hand

  1012. 1012

    Devon Woods warned Luis Elizondo that he was "opening a can of worms" by continuing to investigate Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “"Lue, you're opening a can of worms playing with this stuff," Woods said. It was clear to me he was talking about UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:11130-11243 testimony first hand

  1013. 1013

    Devon Woods considers Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) to be demonic deceivers.

    “"It's demonic," he said to me. "There is no reason we should be looking into this. We already know what they are and where they come from. They are deceivers. Demons."”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:11335-11493 opinion first hand

  1014. 1014

    Lue Elizondo personally handled an alleged alien implant provided to him by a Department of Veterans Affairs hospital, which had been removed from a US military servicemember who had encountered an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP).

    “I once handled one of these implants myself, provided to me by a hospital in the Department of Veterans Affairs, where it had been removed from a US military servicemember who had encountered a UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:26034-26254 observation first hand

  1015. 1015

    A senior Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) official and his wife reported a terrifying Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) experience in the backyard of their own home, after which they awoke lying on the ground.

    “a senior CIA official and his wife had a terrifying UAP experience in the backyard of their own home. When they awoke lying on the ground in the yard”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:28754-28899 hearsay second hand

  1016. 1016

    After the reported backyard Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) encounter, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer had a small hole punched in the back of his neck.

    “the CIA officer had a small hole punched in the back of his neck”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:28905-28965 hearsay second hand

  1017. 1017

    The wife of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officer in the reported backyard Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) encounter had a small metallic object come out of her nose when she sneezed.

    “his wife had a small metallic object recovered from her nose when she sneezed”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:28975-29045 hearsay second hand

  1018. 1018

    Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) doctors were notified of and examined the CIA officer and his wife after their reported backyard Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) encounter.

    “CIA doctors were notified of the circumstances and examined the patients”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch16:29091-29155 hearsay second hand

  1019. 1019

    Luis Elizondo considered that if Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) remain vulnerable to disruption by an electromagnetic pulse (EMP), it could in theory be used to intentionally cause a crash to retrieve a craft, but such use might be seen as an act of war or provocation.

    “if UAP are still vulnerable to disruption by an EMP, we could, in theory, cause another crash intentionally, to retrieve the craft... If we were ever to employ such a weapon against these craft, we worry that it would be seen as an act of war, or provocation.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:14596-14885 opinion first hand

  1020. 1020

    When Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) analysts were given sensor data without being told the target, some independently ruled out a plane, missile, drone, helicopter, kite, and balloon before concluding the object was an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP).

    “After ruling out a plane, a missile, a drone, a helicopter, a balloon, a kite, it became obvious we were looking at a UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:3720-3838 observation first hand

  1021. 1021

    Luis Elizondo avoided recruiting anyone who was a science fiction fan or obsessed with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) for the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), preferring people of stable home life and sound mind.

    “I did not want anyone who was a science fiction buff, or anyone who was obsessed with UAP. I wanted the normal Joe or Jane, of sound mind, and with no baggage at home.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:4572-4734 administrative first hand

  1022. 1022

    Jay Stratton was skilled at getting fellow United States Navy members to talk about their Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encounters.

    “Jay excelled at getting his fellow Navy members to talk.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch17:8162-8213 observation first hand

  1023. 1023

    An anonymous colleague who worked at the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) decades earlier was given an official report and autopsy of the dissection of a nonhuman body recovered from an unspecified crashed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “when one of my colleagues worked at the CIA some decades earlier, he was given an official report/autopsy of the dissection of a nonhuman body that was recovered from an unspecified crashed UAP. This colleague asked me not to use his name.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:174-408 hearsay second hand

  1024. 1024

    Credible sources, including those involved at the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), relayed facts about several historic Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) crashes from which nonhuman bodies were recovered by the United States, in addition to the 1947 Roswell UAP crash.

    “Credible sources, including those involved at AATIP, told me the facts from several historic UAP crashes from which nonhuman bodies were recovered by the US, in addition to the Roswell crash.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:1804-1989 hearsay second hand

  1025. 1025

    Colleagues with knowledge of official reports on nonhuman biological remains posited that nonhumans piloting Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are either naturally evolved beings or engineered biological automatons.

    “My colleagues who had knowledge of official reports on biological remains posited that the nonhumans piloting UAP are either naturally evolved beings or engineered biological automatons.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:3260-3435 hearsay second hand

  1026. 1026

    The autopsy report on a nonhuman body recovered from an unspecified crashed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) described the brain as having no convolutions, with a smooth surface similar to lower-functioning animals on Earth, according to an anonymous person claiming to have worked at the Central Intelligence Agency decades earlier who reviewed the report.

    “The report stated that the brain had no convolutions (the wrinkled exterior portion of the brain). Rather, what was described was a smooth surface, similar to lower-functioning animals here on earth.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:414-607 hearsay second hand

  1027. 1027

    The autopsy report described the nonhuman body recovered from a crashed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) as having a conjoined gut and liver, according to an anonymous person claiming to have worked at the Central Intelligence Agency decades earlier who reviewed the report.

    “It also described a conjoined gut and liver, and a three-chambered heart, like reptiles.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:614-693 hearsay second hand

  1028. 1028

    The autopsy report described the nonhuman body recovered from a crashed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) as having a three-chambered heart, similar to reptiles, according to an anonymous person claiming to have worked at the Central Intelligence Agency decades earlier who reviewed the report.

    “and a three-chambered heart, like reptiles.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:659-693 hearsay second hand

  1029. 1029

    The author of the autopsy on the recovered nonhuman body concluded the cadaver did not appear to have the requisite brain capacity to design and create aircraft capable of the observed manoeuvrability of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) it was recovered from, according to an anonymous person claiming to have worked at the Central Intelligence Agency decades earlier who reviewed the report.

    “The author of the autopsy came to the conclusion the cadaver did not appear to have the requisite brain capacity to design and create aircraft capable of such stunning maneuverability.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch19:703-871 hearsay second hand

  1030. 1030

    The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) focused its work on simple questions about what could be known about unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).

    “Back at AATIP, we focused our work on simple questions. What do we know about UAP? What can we boil all our knowledge down to?”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:10386-10513 testimony first hand

  1031. 1031

    The Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) identified five distinct performance characteristics, called "the observables", that categorised the advanced capabilities observed in unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).

    “We realized all the advanced capabilities observed can be categorized according to five distinct performance characteristics. We called these the observables.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:11335-11481 testimony first hand

  1032. 1032

    The first observable identified by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) for unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) is hypersonic velocity.

    “The first observable is hypersonic velocity.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:11522-11557 testimony first hand

  1033. 1033

    Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) are routinely clocked travelling at Mach 17, more than approximately 21,000 kilometres per hour, and faster, at low altitudes, even at sea level.

    “UAP are routinely clocked traveling at Mach 17 and faster at low altitudes, even at sea level. That's more than 13,000 miles per hour at low altitudes.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:12491-12634 measurement first hand

  1034. 1034

    The second observable identified by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) for unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) is instantaneous acceleration, a sudden increase in velocity, including high-speed turns that would normally require a conventional aircraft many kilometres to complete.

    “The next observable is instantaneous acceleration, which is defined as a sudden increase in velocity. The UAP we are observing are traveling at 13,000 miles per hour, sometimes faster, and instantaneously accelerating and stopping on a dime. This includes high-speed turns that would normally require a conventional aircraft many miles to complete.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:12646-12985 testimony first hand

  1035. 1035

    Humans do not have aircraft capable of instantaneous acceleration like that observed in unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).

    “Do humans have aircraft that can perform instant acceleration? No—not like this.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:12996-13071 opinion first hand

  1036. 1036

    Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) make immediate right-angle turns at speeds up to ten times faster than the SR-71 Blackbird.

    “By contrast, UAP make immediate right-angle turns at speeds up to ten times faster than the SR-71.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:13244-13339 measurement first hand

  1037. 1037

    Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) display the ability to handle forces as high as several thousand g's, well beyond the limits the human body can withstand, which would shred conventional aircraft into confetti-sized pieces.

    “In contrast, UAP display the ability to handle forces as high as several thousand g's, well beyond the limits that the human body can withstand. Conventional aircraft would be shredded into confetti-sized pieces.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:14344-14549 measurement first hand

  1038. 1038

    The third observable identified by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) for unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) is low observability.

    “The next observable is a bit of an oxymoron, but it's low observability.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:14558-14616 testimony first hand

  1039. 1039

    Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) leave almost no observable signature: no sonic booms, no obvious sound, no atmospheric ionisation, no heat ablation, and no contrails.

    “UAP, however, leave almost no observable signature, no sonic booms or obvious sound at all, no atmospheric ionization, no heat ablation, no contrails.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:14936-15076 observation first hand

  1040. 1040

    Some limited data on unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) has been collected using visual collection systems, electromagnetic systems such as radar, and acoustic collection systems such as sonar, though capturing clear data has been very challenging.

    “Luckily, there are some instances where we have collected limited data on UAP, using visual collection systems, electromagnetic systems such as radar, and acoustic collection systems such as sonar. However, capturing clear data has been very challenging.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:15088-15330 testimony first hand

  1041. 1041

    Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) are diabolically hard to spot and identify with cameras, radar, or the naked eye.

    “UAP are diabolically hard to spot and identify with cameras, radar, or the naked eye.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:15397-15478 opinion first hand

  1042. 1042

    The fourth observable identified by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) for unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) is transmedium travel, the ability to operate in multiple domains such as space, the atmosphere, and underwater.

    “The next observable is transmedium travel, the ability to operate in multiple environments, or domains, such as space, our atmosphere, and underwater.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:15484-15623 testimony first hand

  1043. 1043

    Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) have been observed operating superbly and equally well in space, in the air, and underwater without compromising their performance.

    “UAP, on the other hand, have been observed operating superbly in space, in the air, and underwater. The same vehicle, in other words, can do all equally well. Moreover, they do this without compromising their performance.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:16077-16286 observation first hand

  1044. 1044

    Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) have been seen going from space into the atmosphere and diving into the ocean without slowing down, splashing, or having any obvious effect on the surrounding environment.

    “These objects have been seen going from space into our atmosphere and then diving into the ocean without slowing down, without splashing, and with no obvious effect on the surrounding environment.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:16424-16608 observation first hand

  1045. 1045

    The fifth observable identified by the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) for unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) is best described as antigravity, the ability to defy earth's gravitational pull.

    “The next observable is best described in the vernacular as antigravity. Antigravity is a bad word in most scientific circles, but in essence, it means the ability to defy the natural effects of earth's gravitational pull on objects in the environment.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:16622-16863 testimony first hand

  1046. 1046

    Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) seem to defy the natural effect of earth's gravity without any obvious means of propulsion or lift, including no wings, no rotors, no propellers, and no control surfaces.

    “UAP, however, seem to defy the natural effect of earth's gravity without any obvious means of doing so—that is, no signs of propulsion or lift. No wings, no rotors, no propellers. No control surfaces or means to maneuver.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:17883-18123 observation first hand

  1047. 1047

    Unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) are capable of achieving all five of the identified observables, though they may not display all of them in each individual encounter.

    “UAP stand out because they can achieve all five of these observables. They may not display all of them in each individual encounter, but it looked to us as if they were capable of achieving them when pressed to do so.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:18134-18350 opinion first hand

  1048. 1048

    A sixth observable, not a flight characteristic and not yet publicly discussed by the US government, is biological effects experienced during unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) encounters.

    “The sixth observable is not a flight characteristic and has not yet been discussed publicly by our government, but I have mentioned it earlier: biological effects.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:18355-18510 testimony first hand

  1049. 1049

    Many service personnel and intelligence officials who had unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) encounters have suffered biological effects including radiation burns and internal organ damage.

    “Again, many service personnel and intelligence officials who had UAP encounters have suffered biological effects as a result of their experiences. These include radiation burns, internal organ damage, and other very real and documented medical issues.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:18520-18764 testimony first hand

  1050. 1050

    Biological effects associated with unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) encounters include paradoxical time and perception distortions reported by witnesses.

    “Biological effects also include paradoxical time and perception distortions revealed when witnesses talk about their encounters.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:18773-18890 testimony first hand

  1051. 1051

    Some debriefed pilots insisted that a particular unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) encounter lasted only five minutes according to their perception, but the clock showed thirty minutes had elapsed, while their aircraft had consumed only five minutes' worth of fuel.

    “Some pilots who were debriefed insisted that a particular encounter lasted only five minutes but the clock indicated that thirty minutes had in fact elapsed. Meanwhile, their aircraft showed that they'd consumed only five minutes' worth of fuel.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:18903-19143 testimony second hand

  1052. 1052

    Lue Elizondo was repeatedly haunted by images of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) flying in formation in the Predator drone video, and by nightmares of terrorists hunting his family.

    “My brain played for me the images of those UAP flying in formation in the Predator video. In my nightmares, terrorists hunted down my family.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch20:6983-7117 testimony first hand

  1053. 1053

    A defense contractor associated with the Legacy Program was reported to be in possession of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) materials of nonhuman origin, made by a civilisation from a distant planet.

    “We were told specifically that a defense contractor, associated with the Legacy Program, was in possession of UAP materials of nonhuman origin, made by some civilization from some distant planet.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:109-297 hearsay second hand

  1054. 1054

    From the moment Lue Elizondo joined the team, the United States Air Force was stubbornly and mysteriously uncooperative on the topic of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “From the moment I came on board the team, I learned that the Air Force was stubbornly and mysteriously uncooperative on the topic of UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:1851-1984 observation first hand

  1055. 1055

    Lue Elizondo became convinced that the United States Air Force was part of the cover-up regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “It had become extremely clear to me that the Air Force was part of the cover-up.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:2874-2951 opinion first hand

  1056. 1056

    Lue Elizondo's team knew that adversary nations had their own Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) research programmes.

    “We knew that our adversaries had their own UAP research programs.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:3115-3171 observation first hand

  1057. 1057

    Lue Elizondo's team had data, reports, photos, video, and numerous eyewitnesses regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “We had data, reports, photos, video, and countless eyewitnesses.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:4222-4273 observation first hand

  1058. 1058

    The modern era of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings is dated to 1947, meaning those who came before had almost eighty years to obfuscate and bury the truth.

    “If you accept that the "modern" era of UAP sightings dates to 1947, that means those who came before us had almost eighty years to obfuscate and literally bury the truth.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch21:4288-4452 opinion first hand

  1059. 1059

    Almost all people in William "Will" Livingston's studies with remote-viewing abilities and/or UAP encounters and biological effects, who were military and intelligence officials, had Native American DNA, specifically Cherokee blood.

    “It turned out that almost all the people in Will’s studies—military and intelligence officials with remote-viewing abilities and/or UAP encounters and biological effects—had Native American DNA. Specifically, Cherokee blood.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:10732-10977 observation first hand

  1060. 1060

    Key players on Senate committees who were very active in the UAP topic turned out to have Cherokee blood.

    “Even stranger, key players on Senate committees, people who were very active in this topic, turned out to have Cherokee blood.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:11200-11320 observation first hand

  1061. 1061

    The working theory on angel hair is that the exteriors of UAP craft are ablative, peeling off some of their outer surface when the skin interacts with the propulsion unit, resulting in fibres such as angel hair.

    “The working theory is that the exteriors of these aircraft are ablative in nature; that is to say, they are capable of self-sacrificing. When the skin of the craft interacts with the propulsion unit, the craft ablates, or peels off, some of its outer surface, resulting in these fibers.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch22:6139-6418 opinion

  1062. 1062

    In 2015, Jay Stratton received a series of emails from senior leaders at Fleet Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia detailing UAP incursions involving the aircraft carrier USS Roosevelt.

    “In 2015, Jay received a string of emails from senior leaders with the Navy’s Fleet Forces Command in Norfolk, Virginia. The emails provided details of UAP incursions involving the aircraft carrier USS Roosevelt.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:101-303 administrative third hand

  1063. 1063

    Most of the UAP observed near the USS Roosevelt during the 2014-2015 incursions were small.

    “Most of these UAP were small.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:1072-1095 observation first hand

  1064. 1064

    Operation Plan Interloper's plan was to position a nuclear-powered carrier strike group in the Atlantic as bait, with partner intelligence agencies allocating hidden collection assets to gather data if UAP appeared to investigate.

    “The plan for Interloper was to use one of our nuclear-powered carrier strike groups as bait. We would pick a designated spot in the Atlantic and drop in a huge nuclear footprint... Our partner agencies would allocate hidden collection assets in the vicinity. When the UAP showed up to investigate our maneuvers, the trap would spring shut.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:14037-14457 administrative first hand

  1065. 1065

    When the GIMBAL video was shot, the pilots had just encountered a fleet of five UAP in their airspace and locked their camera onto one of the objects, which flew from right to left of the screen.

    “When the film was shot, the pilots had just encountered a fleet of five UAP in their airspace. They managed to lock the camera on just one of these objects and watched as it flew from right to left of the screen.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:16884-17089 observation second hand

  1066. 1066

    No one in the meeting where the GIMBAL video was shown believed the Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP) depicted was made by humans.

    “To be clear, no one in that room thought this UAP was made by humans.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:22788-22850 opinion first hand

  1067. 1067

    During pre-deployment workups in late 2014, in waters off Virginia and down to Florida, USS Roosevelt aircrew had twenty-two separate encounters with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “It turns out that during pre-deployment workups in late 2014, in the waters off Virginia and all the way down to Florida, the aircrew had twenty-two separate encounters with UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:461-635 observation second hand

  1068. 1068

    Numerous similar UAP near-collision safety reports were filed by the US Navy across various operating areas worldwide during this period, using strikingly similar language.

    “The squadron filed safety reports, hoping to spark an investigation. During this period, numerous similar reports were filed through the Navy, in various operating areas worldwide, complaining of similar near disasters with UAP. The language in those reports is strikingly similar.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:4941-5214 administrative first hand

  1069. 1069

    In an interview with CBS Mornings on 2022-09-08, Frank Kendall III, Secretary of the Air Force, acknowledged the reality of UAP but said he does not consider UFOs an issue because he has real threats to worry about every day.

    “In an interview with CBS Mornings on September 8, 2022, he acknowledged the reality of UAP, but when asked specifically if UFOs are an issue for him, Kendall stated, "Not really. I have real threats that I worry about every day."”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:6858-7084 opinion first hand

  1070. 1070

    According to Lue Elizondo, the United States Air Force did not investigate UAP reports because official Air Force policy held that UAP do not exist.

    “As for the Air Force, they were missing in action as usual. According to the Air Force, UAP don’t exist, so why investigate them?”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:9335-9459 opinion first hand

  1071. 1071

    Numerous UAP were observed operating in exclusive-use airspace off Virginia and Florida where no aircraft besides US military aircraft are authorised to fly.

    “There were scores of UAP operating in exclusive-use airspace, where no aircraft are authorized to fly besides US military aircraft.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch23:937-1061 observation second hand

  1072. 1072

    Academic studies commissioned by the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) produced the Defense Intelligence Research Documents (DIRDs), each focused on individual technologies attempting to explain Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) performance.

    “many of the academic studies that were previously commissioned by the DIA and resulted in the Defense Intelligence Research Documents (DIRDs) had all focused on individual technologies which tried to explore and explain UAP performance.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:1250-1501 administrative

  1073. 1073

    Harold Puthoff theorised that merging three warp bubbles could produce a triangular-shaped craft, with the lights reported at each apex actually being propulsion units, corresponding to the widely-reported triangular Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) shape.

    “If you merge three bubbles, you can fit an equilateral triangle in the middle, which is the other common UAP shape observed. What some eyewitnesses report as lights at each apex of these triangular-shaped craft may in fact not be lights at all, but propulsion units, or bubble makers.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:17721-17999 opinion first hand

  1074. 1074

    Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) have often been encountered near bodies of water and, in some cases, appeared to be interacting with it.

    “we already had sufficient data to imply that UAP were often encountered near bodies of water and, in some cases, appeared to be interacting with it”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:20636-20781 observation first hand

  1075. 1075

    Some data suggested that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) were taking water on board.

    “some data even suggested that UAP were taking water on board”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:20830-20885 observation first hand

  1076. 1076

    Harold Puthoff did not subscribe to the hypothesis that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) harvest water for energy from hydrogen, but considered it intriguing enough not to dismiss entirely.

    “Hal didn’t subscribe to this H2O hypothesis but thought it intriguing enough to not dismiss it entirely”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:23677-23772 opinion first hand

  1077. 1077

    Harold Puthoff proposed an alternative hypothesis that, in addition to hydrogen and oxygen, liquid water contains small amounts of the hydrogen isotope deuterium in the form of D2O, a significant ingredient for nuclear fusion energy generation, and that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) might be mining water for a yet-to-be-identified form of propulsion.

    “Hal suggested that in addition to hydrogen and oxygen, liquid water has small amounts of the hydrogen isotope deuterium, in the form of D2O, a significant ingredient for nuclear fusion energy generation... Perhaps UAP were mining water for a yet-to-be-identified form of propulsion?”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:23832-24168 opinion first hand

  1078. 1078

    Lue Elizondo and Harold Puthoff discussed propulsion theories for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) for several hours.

    “We had been in the SCIF now for several hours. Hal had explained how the primary observables were possible, even the sizes and shapes of the various craft seen over the years, based upon propulsion theories.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:24299-24497 observation first hand

  1079. 1079

    During the SCIF (Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) discussion, the group identified a possible explanation for elevated Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) activity around nuclear sites and technologies.

    “a list of commonalities of UAP encounters was discussed... we realized what this also suggested: the explanation for why there has been so much UAP activity around our nuclear sites and technologies”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:24535-24757 opinion first hand

  1080. 1080

    Lue Elizondo believes that increased Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) activity has correlated with humanity's advancement in harnessing energy.

    “And the uptick in UAP activity has increased in line with our advancement of harnessing energy”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:24905-24993 opinion first hand

  1081. 1081

    Lue Elizondo and the group in the SCIF hypothesised that humanity is on a path toward exploiting energy levels that could enable warping space-time, and that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) have been observing and conducting Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance (ISR) on human progress out of concern.

    “We realized we are on the path to exploiting the energy levels needed to possibly warp space-time ourselves, and UAP have been observing (essentially conducting ISR) and been concerned with our progress”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:25002-25196 opinion first hand

  1082. 1082

    Harold Puthoff's opinion is that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are not warping space-time using large amounts of mass, because bringing sufficient mass to earth would produce catastrophic effects similar to placing a stellar black hole next to earth.

    “Obviously, UAP are not using large amounts of mass to warp space-time. They’d have to bring something bigger than the size of earth to earth. The results would be catastrophic, like parking a stellar black hole next to earth… and we would have noticed that.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:2569-2821 opinion first hand

  1083. 1083

    Lue Elizondo believes that if the technology behind Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) propulsion is developed by a nation-state with bad intentions, it would pose an existential threat to the United States and the planet.

    “Regardless of their motivation, if this tech is cracked by another nation-state with bad intentions it will be an existential threat to our nation and the planet as a whole”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:29712-29879 opinion first hand

  1084. 1084

    Some of the United States' past national leaders were briefed on the hypothesis that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) activity is linked to human energy advancement and nuclear sites, which is why the matter is being taken more seriously.

    “Some of our nation’s past leaders were briefed on all this, and that is why this matter is now being taken more seriously than ever before”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:29979-30111 administrative first hand

  1085. 1085

    Lue Elizondo believes the public has a right to know about this UAP-related national security matter regardless of whether the United States government discloses it.

    “Whether or not our government discloses this, I believe the public has a right to know”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:30120-30202 opinion first hand

  1086. 1086

    The six Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) observables tracked by Harold Puthoff's team were hypersonic velocity, instantaneous acceleration, low observability, transmedium travel, antigravity, and biological effects.

    “Hypersonic velocities? Check. Instantaneous acceleration? Check. Low observability? Check. Transmedium travel? Check. Antigravity? Check. Biological effects? Check.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:695-864 administrative first hand

  1087. 1087

    Harold Puthoff considers it possible that a single breakthrough technology could be responsible for all six Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) observables.

    ““One breakthrough technology could be responsible for everything. All of it. And we may have just figured out how it works.””

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch24:903-1019 opinion first hand

  1088. 1088

    Operation Plan Interloper included an appendix containing the last three months of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) reporting.

    “an appendix that included the last three months’ worth of UAP reporting”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:18544-18606 administrative first hand

  1089. 1089

    Lue Elizondo sought James Mattis's clarity, as Secretary of Defense, on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) incursions and range safety issues.

    “I wanted SECDEF’s clarity going forward on incursions and range safety issues.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:21957-22028 testimony first hand

  1090. 1090

    Lue Elizondo wanted a letter from James Mattis to secure access to the Legacy Program's UAP materials.

    “I wanted a letter to secure access to the Legacy Program’s UAP materials.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:22036-22099 testimony first hand

  1091. 1091

    Lue Elizondo was concerned about a recent increase of UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) activity beginning with incursions involving USS Roosevelt and expanding to other sensitive military locations.

    “I was specifically concerned about the recent increase of UAP activity, beginning with the *Roosevelt* incidents and now expanding to other very sensitive military locations.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:23373-23537 testimony first hand

  1092. 1092

    Jim Semivan and his team were working to move the UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) conversation out of government silos and into the hands of the American people.

    “He and his team were working to wrestle the UAP conversation out of the silos of government and place it into the hands of the American people.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:27252-27388 testimony second hand

  1093. 1093

    Jim Semivan had heard rumblings of a real UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) programme being run out of the Pentagon.

    “He had heard rumblings of a real UAP program being run out of the Pentagon, so he was excited to have finally found us.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:27396-27512 hearsay second hand

  1094. 1094

    Jim Semivan revealed to Lue Elizondo a personal UAP (Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) experience he had while he was still a senior CIA (Central Intelligence Agency) official.

    “To alleviate my fears, Jim courageously revealed a very personal UAP experience he had had while he was still a senior CIA official.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:28099-28222 testimony second hand

  1095. 1095

    Luis Elizondo considers that everything observed of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) behaviour resembles what the military terms initial preparation of the battlefield (IPB), an operation to assess an enemy's military capabilities before a potential invasion.

    “To a guy grounded in the reality of war, everything we have seen thus far looks *a lot* like IPB.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch25:5976-6069 opinion first hand

  1096. 1096

    Lue Elizondo shared reports, photographs, data, and intelligence on legacy UAP efforts with Christopher Mellon for three hours in a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF).

    “For the next three hours, I proceeded to share with Chris our reports, photographs, pictures, and data, and intel we had gathered on legacy efforts.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:4997-5137 observation first hand

  1097. 1097

    Christopher Mellon had spent years with oversight of all Special Access Programs (SAPs) for the Department of Defense but admitted he had had zero visibility into the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) topic.

    “He had spent years having oversight of all the SAPs for the DoD and he admitted to us that he had zero visibility into the UAP topic.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch26:5297-5424 testimony second hand

  1098. 1098

    Analysts were more willing to analyse video when told the origins of the aircraft were known, but would refuse or be dismissive if simply told it was a UFO.

    “If we told people who were analyzing video that we knew the origins of the “aircraft,” they were happy to analyze it. But if we simply said a UFO, we would be laughed out of the building.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:1170-1348 observation first hand

  1099. 1099

    Before the end of 2016, the Joint Staff rejected assigning Operation Plan Interloper an Alternative Compensatory Control Measure (ACCM) designation.

    “Before 2016 ended, I received the news from Jay that the Joint Staff had rejected assigning OPLAN Interloper an ACCM designation, our plan to lure UAP out of hiding on the open seas.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:120-297 administrative first hand

  1100. 1100

    Jim Semivan believed that the UAP topic needed to somehow be brought to the public.

    “What if Jim Semivan was right? What if we needed to somehow bring this topic to “the people”?”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:2186-2271 opinion second hand

  1101. 1101

    Operation Plan Interloper was a plan to lure Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) out of hiding on the open seas.

    “our plan to lure UAP out of hiding on the open seas”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:250-297 administrative first hand

  1102. 1102

    Pentagon leadership did not want to be associated with the historical stigma around Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

    “They did not want to be associated with the historical stigma around UFOs.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:502-571 opinion first hand

  1103. 1103

    Jay Stratton came up with the idea of calling unidentified objects Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) instead of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), to make the conversation with leadership easier.

    “Early on, to make it easier to have the conversation, Jay came up with the idea of calling these objects unidentified aerial phenomena, UAP, instead of UFOs.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch27:935-1087 administrative second hand

  1104. 1104

    Brad Byers and Shari Smith requested extensive data, and asked to speak with the pilot witnesses David Fravor and Alex Dietrich along with a radar operator, in connection with briefing James Mattis on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “They asked for reams of data. They asked to speak to our pilot witnesses. We brought in Fravor, Dietrich, and a radar operator.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:1468-1613 testimony first hand

  1105. 1105

    Nothing about the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) briefing effort reached James Mattis despite the extensive information gathering.

    “Yet, after all that, nothing got to Mattis.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:1686-1722 testimony first hand

  1106. 1106

    Luis Elizondo and Jay Stratton made a plan at work to bring about disclosure of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “At work, Jay Stratton and I made a plan that would go against all odds. A plan to bring about disclosure.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:20766-20860 testimony first hand

  1107. 1107

    Luis Elizondo planned to resign and go public with the mission of bringing attention and credibility to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue.

    “I would resign and go public with the mission of bringing as much attention and credibility to the issue as possible.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:20872-20980 testimony first hand

  1108. 1108

    Luis Elizondo planned to help educate the United States Congress and facilitate introducing them to credible military and intelligence community members who had had Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encounters.

    “I’d also help educate Congress and facilitate introducing them to credible military and IC members who’d had UAP encounters.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:21388-21501 testimony first hand

  1109. 1109

    Christopher Mellon used his contacts at the Pentagon to obtain copies of three unclassified Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) videos.

    “He had used his contacts at the Pentagon to get copies of the three unclassified UAP videos.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:22079-22164 testimony second hand

  1110. 1110

    The three unclassified Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) videos had been legally released to the American people the moment the Pentagon approved Luis Elizondo's DoD Form 1910.

    “By the letter of the law, the videos had been released to the American people the moment the Pentagon approved my Form 1910.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:22296-22415 testimony first hand

  1111. 1111

    Christopher Mellon's long service in the intelligence community meant he knew where the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) videos had been kept and how to extract them.

    “Mellon’s long service in the intelligence community meant he knew exactly where the videos had been tucked away and how to extract them.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:22421-22552 testimony first hand

  1112. 1112

    Brad Byers and Shari Smith did not want to put James Mattis in a position where the press could ask him directly whether he had been briefed on the reality of UAP.

    “My chief contacts, Shari and Brad, did not want to put Mattis in an impossible position. If the press got wind of these meetings, they could ask Mattis directly in an open press briefing: "Mr. Secretary, is it true you were recently briefed to the reality of UAP and the dangers they may pose to our pilots?"”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:3011-3311 testimony first hand

  1113. 1113

    Luis Elizondo gave Neill Tipton a full briefing and a large folder several inches thick containing hard copies of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) reports, along with access to the Office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence (OUSD(I)) classified share drive.

    “I returned to Neill's office, gave him the briefing, and handed over a large folder with hard copies of UAP reports. It was several inches thick. I also gave him access to our share folder on the OUSD(I) classified share drive.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:5474-5695 testimony first hand

  1114. 1114

    Luis Elizondo, Jay Stratton, and Christopher Mellon concluded that the only way to change how the Pentagon handled Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) was to get the United States Congress to force change.

    “Wargaming it with Jay and Chris Mellon, we realized that the only way to change the way the Pentagon was handling this was to get Congress to make them change.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:7879-8058 testimony first hand

  1115. 1115

    Luis Elizondo faced a choice between remaining silent about the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue or resigning from his Pentagon career to go public and reveal the truth about UAP to the American people.

    “The way I saw it, I really only had two choices: (1) make peace with silence and sitting on humanity's biggest secret... or (2) resign from a career I love in order to fulfill my duty to serve the interest of the people of the United States, and to do the right thing, by going public and revealing the truth about UAP to the American people.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch28:8255-8688 testimony first hand

  1116. 1116

    To The Stars Academy (TTSA) was co-founded by Tom DeLonge and Jim Semivan, and pursued a triple directive covering UAP science and engineering, educating laymen and journalists, and producing film, television, and publishing content about UAP.

    “They had aligned themselves with the organization that rock star Tom DeLonge and Jim Semivan had put together, called To The Stars Academy (TTSA), and they planned to pursue a triple directive for UAP disclosure: fresh approaches to UAP science and engineering, educating laymen and journalists, and generating film/TV/publishing content about the UAP phenomena, based on true stories, all to educate the public and put an end to the stigma.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:10033-10494 administrative

  1117. 1117

    Tom DeLonge left music in 2015 and turned his attention to a lifelong passion, believing that Earth was being visited regularly by Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “Since leaving music behind in 2015, he’d turned his attention to a passion that he was obsessed with since childhood. He believed in his heart that earth was being visited regularly by UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:11927-12112 opinion second hand

  1118. 1118

    John Podesta considers one of his regrets to be not insisting on disclosure of UAP evidence while he was in the White House.

    “Podesta has long said that one of his regrets was not insisting on disclosure of UAP evidence when he was in the White House.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:13252-13371 opinion second hand

  1119. 1119

    At the Pentagon's Christmas party, aides told Secretary of Defense James Mattis that the New York Times was running a front-page Sunday story reporting a secret Department of Defense program investigating UAP and asking why Luis Elizondo had resigned.

    ““Sir, the *New York Times* is running a front-page story in the Sunday paper saying that we have a secret program investigating UAP. They are asking why Lue resigned.””

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:19049-19205 hearsay second hand

  1120. 1120

    Bryan Bender was more interested in the national security aspect and potential threat posed by Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) than in the phenomenon itself.

    “Bryan seemed more interested in the national security aspect and potential threat.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:20687-20762 opinion first hand

  1121. 1121

    In his resignation letter, Luis Elizondo wrote that certain individuals in the Department of Defense remained opposed to further research on anomalous aerospace threats despite overwhelming evidence at both unclassified and classified levels.

    “Despite overwhelming evidence at both the unclassified and classified levels, certain individuals in the Department remain staunchly opposed to further research on what could be a tactical threat to our pilots, sailors, and soldiers, and perhaps even an existential threat to our national security.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:2108-2397 opinion first hand

  1122. 1122

    Bryan Bender did not come across as a believer in Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), but rather seemed interested in whether the Pentagon had a programme that was never disclosed to the public or Congress.

    “Bryan didn't come across as a "UAP believer." Rather, he seemed interested in the Pentagon having a program that wasn't ever disclosed to the public or Congress, but I could be wrong.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:21100-21304 opinion first hand

  1123. 1123

    The front-page New York Times story revealed the existence of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), a secret programme investigating Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), and Luis Elizondo's role in it.

    “Their front-page story revealed the existence of AATIP—that is, a secret program investigating UAP—and my role.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:22376-22482 administrative

  1124. 1124

    In his resignation letter, Luis Elizondo wrote that there seemed to be a direct correlation between the observed phenomena and US nuclear and military capabilities.

    “In many instances, there seems to be a direct correlation the phenomena exhibits with respect to our nuclear and military capabilities.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:2407-2529 opinion first hand

  1125. 1125

    Luis Elizondo had anticipated headlines focused on the national security threat posed by Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), such as "UAP Are Real and Present a National Security Threat," but news editors instead emphasised that the US government had secretly studied UAP via the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).

    “I had anticipated headlines that focused on the threat: "UAP Are Real and Present a National Security Threat." Instead the editors at the news outlets emphasized the stodgy fact that the US government had secretly studied UAP via AATIP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:24459-24689 opinion first hand

  1126. 1126

    In his resignation letter, Luis Elizondo wrote that the Navy and other US military services had reported unusual aerial systems interfering with military weapon platforms and displaying beyond-next-generation capabilities.

    “The Department must take serious the many accounts by the Navy and other Services of unusual aerial systems interfering with military weapon platforms and displaying beyond-next-generation capabilities.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:2543-2732 opinion first hand

  1127. 1127

    Garry Reid initiated an inquiry through the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (OSI) to determine how the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) videos had been released.

    “In reaction to the press, Garry Reid initiated an inquiry through the AFOSI to determine how the UAP videos had been released.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:26003-26120 administrative

  1128. 1128

    Jay Stratton, Christopher Mellon, and Luis Elizondo funnelled credible members of the military and intelligence community with knowledge of UAP to Congress.

    “Jay, Chris, and I all funneled credible members of the military and intelligence community who had knowledge of UAP to Congress.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:26528-26647 observation first hand

  1129. 1129

    Luis Elizondo considers that testimony from military pilots who had encountered Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), and the data supporting their accounts, made the greatest early impact on Congress.

    “Military pilots who had encountered UAP, and the data supporting what they saw, made the most impact on Congress at first.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:26657-26773 opinion first hand

  1130. 1130

    Leslie Kean was a longtime reporter for major metropolitan newspapers who had written a well-received book about military encounters with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “Leslie had been a longtime reporter for major metropolitan newspapers and was very interested in the UAP topic. Years earlier, she’d written a well-received book about military encounters with UAP”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch29:7559-7752 administrative

  1131. 1131

    The History Channel wanted to produce a television show with the To The Stars Academy (TTSA) team featuring investigators interviewing former military personnel about their Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encounters.

    “The History Channel wanted to do a show with the TTSA team that would put seasoned investigators in the field, interviewing ex-military personnel about their UAP encounters.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:357-519 administrative first hand

  1132. 1132

    A fake news story appeared online claiming there was no discernible evidence that Lue Elizondo ever worked for a government UAP programme.

    “a targeted fake news story popped up online. It claimed, There is no discernible evidence that Luis Elizondo ever worked for a government UAP program.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:3970-4113 hearsay

  1133. 1133

    Christopher Sherwood told reporters that the three UAP videos had been cleared for research purposes only, not for public dissemination.

    “among other things, Sherwood told reporters that the three UAP videos had been cleared for research purposes only, not public dissemination.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch30:5441-5569 testimony second hand

  1134. 1134

    Senator Marco Rubio, as acting chairman of the US Senate Intelligence Committee, supported the proposal for a UAP transparency report despite criticism from those hostile to transparency.

    “Thankfully, Senator Marco Rubio, the acting chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, was courageous enough to support this important proposal, notwithstanding the inevitable mindless criticism his support would generate from those hostile to the idea of transparency.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:11810-12070 administrative first hand

  1135. 1135

    Tim Burchett's congressional district in Tennessee was near Oak Ridge, home to the nation's uranium stockpile, a former World War II Manhattan Project 'Secret City,' and the site of numerous UAP sightings.

    “Coincidentally, his district was near Oak Ridge, home to the nation’s uranium stockpile and a former World War II “Secret City” of the Manhattan Project and the site of countless UAP sightings.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:12918-13101 administrative first hand

  1136. 1136

    Tim Burchett was particularly alarmed by the connection between UAP and US nuclear capabilities.

    “He was particularly alarmed by the connection to US nuclear capabilities.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:13112-13172 opinion second hand

  1137. 1137

    Christopher Mellon and Jay Stratton developed a multiyear strategy to educate the United States Congress on UAP and legally address disclosure hurdles.

    “Chris recognized the vital role that Congress could play in advancing the UAP issue, so we and Jay had made a multiyear strategy, a war plan of sorts, to educate Congress and eventually legally address the hurdles that faced disclosure.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:1435-1687 administrative first hand

  1138. 1138

    An anonymous person highly placed in the US government who Luis Elizondo says knew the truth the government had hidden about UAP told Elizondo that talking openly about the issue was accelerating the chances of an invasion.

    “On one occasion, a person highly placed in the US government—a person who knew the truth the government had hidden all these years—told me I had embarked on an unwise mission. “Do you realize,” they said, “that by talking about this issue so openly, you are accelerating the chances that we will be invaded?””

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:14614-14914 hearsay second hand

  1139. 1139

    The Legacy Program and the UAP issue began in 1947.

    “Since the Legacy Program and the UAP issue really began in 1947”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:15800-15859 administrative first hand

  1140. 1140

    Luis Elizondo believes the following US presidents were briefed in some way on UAP: Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Lyndon B. Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Donald Trump.

    “As far as I know, the following US presidents were briefed in some way: Truman, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, Carter, Reagan, George H. W. Bush, and Trump.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:16189-16330 opinion first hand

  1141. 1141

    Luis Elizondo has reason to believe the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), nicknamed the Star Wars programme, which Ronald Reagan championed, was concerned with UAP and not just nuclear weapons.

    “As for Reagan, I have reason to believe that the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI), nicknamed the Star Wars program, which Reagan championed, was concerned with UAP, not just nukes.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:17198-17374 opinion first hand

  1142. 1142

    Language was inserted into the second COVID-19 relief bill stipulating that the Department of Defense (DoD) had to release a UAP report by the following summer, without requiring new spending since the DoD already had the data.

    “We did in fact manage to insert language in the second Covid bill stipulating that the DoD had to release a UAP report by the following summer. Such a report would not require spending new dollars; DoD already had the data.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:18076-18294 administrative first hand

  1143. 1143

    Senate Report 116-233 states the Committee remains concerned there is no unified, comprehensive process within the Federal Government for collecting and analysing intelligence on unidentified aerial phenomena, and finds information sharing and coordination across the Intelligence Community has been inconsistent.

    “The Committee remains concerned that there is no unified, comprehensive process within the Federal Government for collecting and analyzing intelligence on unidentified aerial phenomena, despite the potential threat. The Committee understands that the relevant intelligence may be sensitive; nevertheless, the Committee finds that the information sharing and coordination across the Intelligence Community has been inconsistent.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:18547-18961 administrative second hand

  1144. 1144

    Senate Report 116-233 directs the Director of National Intelligence, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense and other relevant agency heads, to submit an unclassified report within 180 days of the act's enactment to the congressional intelligence and armed services committees on unidentified aerial phenomena, also known as anomalous aerial vehicles.

    “Therefore, the Committee directs the DNI, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense and the heads of such other agencies as the Director and Secretary jointly consider relevant, to submit a report within 180 days of the date of enactment of the Act, to the congressional intelligence and armed services committees on unidentified aerial phenomena (also known as “anomalous aerial vehicles”), including observed airborne objects that have not been identified. The report shall be submitted in unclassified form, but may include a classified annex.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:19005-19552 administrative second hand

  1145. 1145

    Luis Elizondo, Christopher Mellon, and Jay Stratton decided to focus their congressional UAP messaging on growing risks to flight safety and the historic lack of transparency from the executive branch dating back to the 1940s, due to stigma and political risk.

    “Due to the stigma and political risk politicians were concerned with, we decided to focus on the growing UAP risks to flight safety, as well as the historic lack of transparency from the executive branch, going back to the 1940s.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:1906-2129 administrative first hand

  1146. 1146

    The full UAP-reporting language inserted into the COVID-19 relief bill amounted to 422 words.

    “The full language in the bill amounted to 422 words and was unprecedented.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:19560-19620 measurement first hand

  1147. 1147

    Not since the 1960s had the United States Congress instructed the Department of Defense to take action regarding UAP, let alone issue an unclassified report shareable with the American people and the world.

    “Not since the 1960s had Congress instructed the DoD to take any action regarding UAP, let alone issue an *unclassified* report that could be shared with the American people and the world.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:19635-19816 administrative first hand

  1148. 1148

    From the moment the UAP legislation became law, the Department of Defense (DoD) had six months to produce a report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), a subject it had largely ignored for seventy-five years.

    “From the moment the bill became law, the DoD would have six months to crank out a report on a subject it had largely ignored for seventy-five years.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:20093-20235 administrative first hand

  1149. 1149

    The Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena report identified 144 military Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) incidents from 2004 through 2021-06.

    “it did identify 144 military UAP incidents from 2004 through June 2021”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:21548-21614 measurement second hand

  1150. 1150

    Following the release of the Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena report, the United States Congress required the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) report to be produced on an annual basis.

    “This official government UAP report had proven so important, and of such great public interest, that Congress then required it on an annual basis.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:21824-21964 administrative

  1151. 1151

    The Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena report concluded that the reported Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) were likely not weather anomalies and represented something tangible.

    “The report concluded that these UAP were likely not weather anomalies and represented something… tangible.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:22773-22871 administrative second hand

  1152. 1152

    The Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena report estimated that only 10 percent of all Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) encounters for the covered time frame were actually reported.

    “only 10 percent of all encounters for that time frame were actually reported”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:23106-23174 measurement second hand

  1153. 1153

    By the Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena report's own assessment, a staggering 1,400 Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) incidents from 2019 to 2021 remained unreported.

    “By that assessment, a staggering 1400 incidents from 2019 to 2021 remained unreported.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:23184-23286 measurement second hand

  1154. 1154

    Frank Kendall III, then secretary of the United States Air Force, told reporters that he was not sure Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) warranted his attention.

    “The then secretary of the Air Force, Frank Kendall, told reporters that he was not sure that UAP warranted his attention.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:23474-23585 testimony first hand

  1155. 1155

    Frank Kendall III did not deny that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) objects were real, but called for evidence that they were a threat before he and his colleagues would act.

    “While not denying that these objects were real, he called for evidence that these objects were a threat before he and his colleagues would lift a finger.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:23596-23742 testimony first hand

  1156. 1156

    Lue Elizondo considers Frank Kendall III's demand for evidence of threat before addressing Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) a logical fallacy, reasoning that if you don't know what something is, you cannot dismiss it as not a threat.

    “that struck me as a logical fallacy. If you don’t know what something is, how can you dismiss it as a threat?”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:23769-23871 opinion first hand

  1157. 1157

    Lue Elizondo put out a public statement that the American people now knew that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are not secret US technology, do not seem to belong to any known allies or adversaries, and that intelligence services had yet to identify a terrestrial explanation for them.

    “that these UAP are not secret US technology, that they do not seem to belong to any known allies or adversaries, and that our intelligence services have yet to identify a terrestrial explanation for these extraordinary vehicles.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:24553-24772 opinion first hand

  1158. 1158

    Few members of the United States Congress had any real previous understanding of the UAP issue and generally saw it as an odd nonissue for kooks and as politically risky.

    “Unfortunately, few in Congress had any real previous understanding of the UAP issue and generally saw it as an odd “nonissue” for kooks and as politically risky.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:2463-2618 observation first hand

  1159. 1159

    Of the 144 Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) incidents in the Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena report, the UAP Task Force was only able to identify one.

    “Out of 144 incidents, the UAP Task Force was only able to identify 1.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:24782-24849 measurement second hand

  1160. 1160

    Jay Stratton retired from government service after sixteen years investigating Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) for the US government, longer than anyone Lue Elizondo was aware of.

    “after sixteen years of investigating UAP for the US government, longer than anyone I’m aware of, Jay decided it was time to retire and head to the private sector”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:26408-26563 testimony first hand

  1161. 1161

    Before Jay Stratton retired, he and Lue Elizondo worked with the United States Congress to propose new legislation creating a permanent Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) programme directly funded by Congress so its funding could not be blocked or misused.

    “Before Jay retired, we worked with Congress to get new legislation proposed that would create a permanent UAP program directly funded by Congress, so no one could block or misuse the funding.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:26703-26886 administrative first hand

  1162. 1162

    Two days before Thanksgiving in 2021, the Department of Defense (DoD) announced the creation of the Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group (AOIMSG), a new Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) investigation office.

    “Two days before Thanksgiving in 2021, DoD announced the creation of a new UAP investigation office called the Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:26975-27147 administrative

  1163. 1163

    The United States Congress sensed that the Department of Defense (DoD) wanted to steer the Airborne Object Identification and Management Synchronization Group (AOIMSG) toward studying man-made air debris and away from Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), using the term "Temporarily Non-attributable Objects" instead of UAP.

    “Congress sensed that DoD wanted to steer the office toward studying man-made air trash and clutter and away from UAP, using the term “Temporarily Non-attributable Objects” instead of UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:28077-28262 administrative

  1164. 1164

    The United States Congress revised the relevant legislation to state that the Department of Defense (DoD) could not treat man-made objects as part of its Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) investigations, and that any object found to be man-made would have to be delegated to another department.

    “Congress revised the upcoming bills, stating that DoD could not treat man-made objects as part of their UAP investigations. If a UAP was found to be man-made, the new permanent UAP office Congress wanted would have to delegate that case to another DoD department.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:28323-28577 administrative

  1165. 1165

    The legislation defined Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) as only objects that had no known human origin.

    “Only objects that had no known human origin could be defined as a UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:28589-28655 administrative

  1166. 1166

    The United States Congress expanded the definition covered by the legislation to include space and undersea anomalies, changing the term from "unidentified aerial phenomena" to "unidentified anomalous phenomena" to cover all domains.

    “Congress now included space and undersea anomalies as part of the UAP definition, and changed it from “unidentified aerial phenomena” to “unidentified anomalous phenomena,” to cover all domains.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:28800-28990 administrative

  1167. 1167

    Luis Elizondo and colleagues worked to bring forward credible eyewitnesses of UAP, specifically intelligence and military officers, to testify to the United States Congress.

    “We relentlessly worked to uncover credible eyewitnesses of UAP, specifically intelligence and military officers, whom we could invite to share their testimony with senators, representatives, and various congressional committees.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:2888-3105 administrative first hand

  1168. 1168

    The legislation would require the Department of Defense (DoD)'s new Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) office to employ a "1 percent doctrine," investigating any encounter with a 1 percent chance of being a threat to the military or the American people.

    “they must employ what is known as the “1 percent doctrine” in all their methodology. If there’s a 1 percent chance that an encounter is a threat to the military or the American people, they must investigate it.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:29889-30096 administrative

  1169. 1169

    In 2021-09, the US House of Representatives passed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) bill containing the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) language and advanced it to the Senate.

    “In September 2021, the House passed the bill and advanced it to the Senate.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:31108-31176 administrative

  1170. 1170

    Many potential UAP witnesses would not speak to the United States Congress because of nondisclosure agreements they had signed with various intelligence agencies and branches of the military.

    “For every witness we brought forward, there were several who wouldn’t speak to Congress due to the nondisclosure agreements they had signed with various intelligence agencies and branches of the military.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:3117-3312 observation first hand

  1171. 1171

    In 2021-11, GQ (magazine) in the United Kingdom named Lue Elizondo one of the heroes of 2021 for his impact on culture as a voice of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) disclosure effort.

    “In November 2021 I was honored to find out that GQ magazine in the UK named me one of the heroes of 2021 for my impact on culture by being a voice of the disclosure effort.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:31370-31537 administrative second hand

  1172. 1172

    The US Senate passed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) bill with the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) language untouched on 2021-12-15, and sent it to President Joe Biden for his signature.

    “The Senate finally passed the bill on December 15, 2021—the UAP language untouched—and sent it to President Biden for his signature.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:31842-31964 administrative

  1173. 1173

    Harry Reid was in the final days of a three-year battle with pancreatic cancer while continuing to support the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) legislative effort.

    “he was in the final days of a three-year battle with pancreatic cancer”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:32392-32456 administrative first hand

  1174. 1174

    Harry Reid said he would keep fighting his cancer until President Joe Biden signed the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) legislation into law.

    “Senator Reid said he would keep fighting his cancer until Biden signed the act.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:32656-32731 testimony second hand

  1175. 1175

    President Joe Biden signed the second Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) bill into law two days after Christmas in 2021.

    “Biden signed the second UAP bill into law two days after Christmas in 2021.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:32919-32989 administrative

  1176. 1176

    Harry Reid died peacefully in his sleep the day after President Joe Biden signed the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) legislation into law in 2021-12.

    “A day later, my old friend Harry Reid died peacefully in his sleep.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:33049-33110 administrative first hand

  1177. 1177

    In 2022-05, the US Congress held a public hearing on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) as required under the new legislation.

    “In May 2022, one requirement of the new law went on full display. Congress held a historic public hearing on UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:33165-33274 administrative

  1178. 1178

    At the May 2022 Congressional UAP hearing, Department of Defense (DoD) witnesses revealed more than 400 Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) cases logged in the previous year, compared with 143 unresolved cases covered by the earlier 180-day report.

    “Unlike the 180-day report, which covered 143 unresolved cases, the DoD witnesses revealed that they now had more than 400 logged in the last year.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:33515-33656 testimony second hand

  1179. 1179

    The May 2022 Congressional UAP hearing confirmed that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are real and not a glitch of technological systems or a weather anomaly.

    “The hearing confirmed UAP are indeed real and not a glitch of technological systems or a weather anomaly.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:33662-33759 testimony second hand

  1180. 1180

    The May 2022 Congressional UAP hearing confirmed that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are not US technology and are a potential threat to air safety and national security.

    “It confirmed UAP are not our technology and are a potential threat to air safety and our national security.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:33768-33868 testimony second hand

  1181. 1181

    At the May 2022 Congressional UAP hearing, it was revealed that the Pentagon was unaware of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) incursions near sensitive nuclear facilities, including instances of intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) being taken offline.

    “Another shocking admission which completely took me by surprise was that the Pentagon was unaware of the incursions of UAP near sensitive nuclear facilities. The Pentagon admitted it was unaware of its own reporting going back to instances including ICBMs being taken offline.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:34352-34647 testimony second hand

  1182. 1182

    Lue Elizondo believes that had the Pentagon done even a cursory review of its own records, it would have realised that it had already written reports on the nuclear-facility Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) incursions.

    “Had the Pentagon done even a cursory review of its own records, it would have realized that the Pentagon itself had written reports on these incursions.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:34656-34797 opinion first hand

  1183. 1183

    In 2022-07, the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) was announced as a new permanent Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) office required to report to the United States Congress.

    “In July 2022, AARO—the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office—was announced. This new permanent UAP office had to report to Congress.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:34980-35102 administrative

  1184. 1184

    The United States Congress pushed proposed Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) legislation into the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) covering the 2023 budget.

    “Congress pushed the proposed legislation into the annual National Defense Authorization Act that year—the budget that spells out what money Congress will outlay to the Department of Defense in the following year (in this case, 2023).”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:35510-35737 administrative

  1185. 1185

    Witnesses who feared speaking to the United States Congress about UAP genuinely feared being sent to jail or killed.

    “The witnesses we met with who were afraid to speak to Congress genuinely feared being sent to jail or killed.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:3555-3657 observation first hand

  1186. 1186

    Luis Elizondo went to meet with staffers who worked for a congressional representative at their invitation, to discuss Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “I was about to meet with staffers who worked for a congressional representative... I was here to talk about UAP at *their* invitation.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:361-474 observation first hand

  1187. 1187

    The 2023 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) language required the new UAP office to report to Congress on all cases pertaining to UAP from 1945-01-01 onward.

    “it described how this new office would report to Congress on all cases pertaining to UAP from January 1, 1945, on.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:36137-36249 administrative

  1188. 1188

    The 2023 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) legislation directed the intelligence community to set up a database where military personnel could report Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “They would, for example, set up a database where military personnel could report UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:36485-36566 administrative

  1189. 1189

    The 2023 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) legislation provided protection from reprisals for people who came forward with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) related stories, including releasing anyone who had signed a non-disclosure agreement (NDA) on UAP to speak to Congress in a classified setting.

    “It also provided protection from reprisals for those who came forward with their stories. This meant that anyone—civilian or military—who ever signed an NDA relating to UAP would be free to speak to Congress in a classified setting.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:36571-36822 administrative

  1190. 1190

    Under the 2023 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) legislation, it would be illegal to fire, punish, or otherwise retaliate against whistleblowers who spoke about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), and whistleblowers could sue to recover damages.

    “it would be illegal to fire them, punish them, or take action to ruin their pensions, careers, or security clearances in response. In fact, whistleblowers could sue to recover damages.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:37018-37194 administrative

  1191. 1191

    The Nolan/Vallée Iowa UAP materials paper was the first time the journal Progress in Aerospace Sciences had published a serious paper on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “the first time this academic journal had published a serious paper on UAP”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:38575-38645 administrative

  1192. 1192

    Various elements in government throughout 2022 sought face-to-face meetings with lawmakers to protest the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) whistleblower-reprisal legislation, arguing they must be able to prosecute whistleblowers and to have the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) pursue former employees who spoke out of line.

    “various elements in government clamored for face-to-face meetings with lawmakers so they could vigorously protest the UAP whistleblower reprisal language. “We must be able to prosecute whistleblowers!” they argued. “We must be able to sic the FBI on former employees who talk out of line.””

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:39590-39875 hearsay second hand

  1193. 1193

    In July 2022, the United States Congress unanimously voted for inclusion of UAP legislation in the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for fiscal year 2023.

    “In July 2022, Congress unanimously voted for inclusion of the most historic UAP legislation written at that point in the National Defense Authorization Act for the fiscal year 2023.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:41961-42137 administrative first hand

  1194. 1194

    On 2022-12-15, the US Senate approved the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) with the UAP language and sent it to Joe Biden to sign.

    “On December 15, 2022, the Senate approved the NDAA with the UAP language and sent it to Biden to sign.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:42359-42456 administrative first hand

  1195. 1195

    On 2022-12-23, President Joe Biden signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) containing UAP legislation into law.

    “On December 23, 2022, President Biden signed the historic UAP legislation into law when he signed the NDAA.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:42634-42736 administrative first hand

  1196. 1196

    The UAP legislation language within the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) is fifteen pages long.

    “The UAP legislation language is fifteen pages and available online.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:42743-42803 administrative first hand

  1197. 1197

    The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation included protection for whistleblowers allowing them to legally break their non-disclosure agreements to speak confidentially with select members of the United States Congress in a classified setting without consequences.

    “it included protection for whistleblowers so they can legally break their NDAs to speak confidentially with select members of Congress in a classified setting without consequences”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:43077-43244 administrative first hand

  1198. 1198

    The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation included acknowledgment of the capture, recovery, and reverse-engineering of UAP and required reporting on these matters to the United States Congress.

    “acknowledgment of the capture, recovery, and reverse-engineering of UAP and action to cause reporting on these matters to Congress”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:43258-43407 administrative first hand

  1199. 1199

    The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation included acknowledgment of health issues caused by UAP and required reporting on these matters to the United States Congress.

    “acknowledgment of health issues caused by UAP and action to cause reporting on these matters to Congress”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:43417-43513 administrative first hand

  1200. 1200

    The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation included acknowledgment of a Cold War-style race with other nations relating to UAP and required reporting on this to the United States Congress.

    “acknowledgment of the Cold War race playing out with other nations and action to cause reporting on this to Congress”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:43523-43631 administrative first hand

  1201. 1201

    The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation required reporting to the United States Congress on all UAP activity since 1945-01-01, including a compilation and itemisation of key historical records of intelligence community involvement with unidentified anomalous phenomena.

    “reporting to Congress on all UAP activity since January 1, 1945, including a compilation and itemization of the key historical records of the involvement of the intelligence community with unidentified anomalous phenomena”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:43676-43888 administrative first hand

  1202. 1202

    The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation covered successful or unsuccessful efforts to identify and track unidentified anomalous phenomena.

    “successful or unsuccessful efforts to identify and track unidentified anomalous phenomena”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:44026-44106 administrative first hand

  1203. 1203

    The National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) UAP legislation covered any efforts to obfuscate, manipulate public opinion, hide, or otherwise provide incorrect unclassified or classified information about unidentified anomalous phenomena or related activities.

    “any efforts to obfuscate, manipulate public opinion, hide, or otherwise provide incorrect unclassified or classified information about unidentified anomalous phenomena or related activities”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:44121-44300 administrative first hand

  1204. 1204

    The United States Space Force (USSF) did not yet have a UAP programme when Jay Stratton needed a representative from that organisation for the task force he was building.

    “Jay needed a rep from Space Force (USSF), but that agency was still getting set up at the time and didn’t have a UAP program”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:5357-5474 administrative first hand

  1205. 1205

    Christopher Mellon proposed having one of the congressional oversight committees request an unclassified public report on UAP from the Director of National Intelligence, as a way to advance UAP transparency without requiring public funds or Appropriations Committee support.

    “Chris, who had served for over a decade on Capitol Hill, proposed a simple but brilliant solution: have one of the oversight committees request an unclassified public report on UAP from the Director of National Intelligence.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:9204-9415 administrative first hand

  1206. 1206

    Christopher Mellon drafted a version of the UAP report requirement and posted it online.

    “and even drafted a version of the report requirement, which he posted online for all of us to see.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch31:9717-9811 administrative first hand

  1207. 1207

    David Grusch considers there to be a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the US population regarding UAP that is extremely unethical and immoral.

    “There's a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the US populace, which is extremely unethical and immoral”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:1524-1659 opinion first hand

  1208. 1208

    In July 2023, members of the United States Congress held a bipartisan hearing on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) at which Commander Dave Fravor, Lieutenant Ryan Graves, and David Grusch testified under oath.

    “members of Congress held another historic bipartisan UAP hearing. This time the hearing had highly credible military witnesses, Commander Fravor, Lieutenant Graves, and Dave Grusch, who were now testifying to the American people in Congress *under oath*”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:2345-2593 administrative first hand

  1209. 1209

    In early 2023, the Pentagon released a new public report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) activity.

    “The year started with a new public report on UAP activity released by the Pentagon”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:243-317 administrative second hand

  1210. 1210

    The 2023 Pentagon UAP report documented over three hundred UAP events since 2021.

    “reporting over three hundred UAP events *just since 2021*”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:327-379 measurement second hand

  1211. 1211

    Following the July 2023 Congressional UAP hearing, the United States Congress became more determined to investigate the UAP issue and uncover the truth about the hidden programme.

    “following that hearing, Congress was more determined than ever to get to the bottom of the UAP issue and uncover the truth about the hidden program”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:3839-3979 observation first hand

  1212. 1212

    New UAP whistleblower legislation led to more military and intelligence witnesses coming forward about a hidden programme to capture, reverse-engineer, and exploit Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “the new UAP whistleblower legislation led to even more credible military and intelligence witnesses coming forward and telling the world what they knew about the deeply hidden program to capture, reverse-engineer, and exploit UAP”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch32:511-737 observation first hand

  1213. 1213

    Marco Rubio considers there is still much unknown about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and that this is a significant problem.

    ““There is a lot we still don’t know about these UAP and that is a big problem. We’ve taken some important steps over the last few years to increase transparency and reduce stigmas, but more needs to be done.” —Senator Marco Rubio”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:3030-3255 opinion first hand

  1214. 1214

    Marco Rubio considers that steps have been taken over recent years to increase transparency and reduce stigma around Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), but that more needs to be done.

    “We’ve taken some important steps over the last few years to increase transparency and reduce stigmas, but more needs to be done.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:3108-3231 opinion first hand

  1215. 1215

    Kirsten Gillibrand considers understanding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) critical to national security and to maintaining all-domain awareness.

    ““Understanding UAP is critical to our national security and to maintaining all-domain awareness. Declassifying previous records related to UAP is part of that mission and I’m proud to support this important amendment.” —Senator Kirsten Gillibrand”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:3264-3501 opinion first hand

  1216. 1216

    Kirsten Gillibrand supported an amendment to declassify previous records related to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “Declassifying previous records related to UAP is part of that mission and I’m proud to support this important amendment.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:3360-3470 testimony first hand

  1217. 1217

    Todd Young considers that the American people deserve transparency on all issues related to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    ““The American people deserve transparency on all issues related to UAP. Our bipartisan effort will protect and better organize government materials related to UAP and promote disclosure of this information.” —Senator Todd Young”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:3515-3738 opinion first hand

  1218. 1218

    Todd Young led a bipartisan effort intended to protect and better organise government materials related to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and to promote disclosure of that information.

    “Our bipartisan effort will protect and better organize government materials related to UAP and promote disclosure of this information.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:3586-3708 testimony first hand

  1219. 1219

    Avril Haines raised the question of whether some Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) could have an extraterrestrial explanation not currently understood.

    ““There’s always the question of is there something else that we simply do not understand that might come extraterrestrially.” —Avril Haines, Director of National Intelligence”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:3747-3910 opinion first hand

  1220. 1220

    Barack Obama stated there is footage and records of objects in the skies whose movement and trajectory cannot be explained.

    ““There is footage and records of objects in the skies that we don’t know exactly what they are. We can’t explain how they move, their trajectory… . They did not have an easily explainable pattern.” —President Barack Obama”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:3926-4113 opinion first hand

  1221. 1221

    Barack Obama considers it worthwhile that people take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what unexplained aerial objects are.

    “So I think that people take seriously trying to investigate and figure out what that is.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:4126-4211 opinion first hand

  1222. 1222

    John Brennan has personally seen some Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) videos that he considers eyebrow-raising.

    ““I have seen some of the videos… and they are quite eyebrow-raising… .” —John Brennan, former Director of the Central Intelligence Agency”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:4465-4524 opinion first hand

  1223. 1223

    John Brennan considers some unexplained aerial phenomena might involve some type of activity that could constitute a different form of life.

    “I think some of the phenomena we’re going to be seeing continues to be unexplained and might, in fact, be some type of phenomenon that is the result of something that we don’t yet understand and that could involve some type of activity that some might say constitutes a different form of life.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:4665-4953 opinion first hand

  1224. 1224

    Scott Bray considers that if Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) represent a potential threat to security, then the capabilities, systems, processes, and sources used to observe and study them need to be classified at appropriate levels.

    ““If UAP do indeed represent a potential threat to our security, then the capabilities, systems, processes, and sources we use to observe and study or analyze these phenomena need to be classified at appropriate levels.” —Scott Bray, NATO’s Assistant Secretary General for Intelligence and Security”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:5221-5511 opinion first hand

  1225. 1225

    John Ratcliffe stated there are more Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings than have been made public, some of which have been declassified.

    ““There are a lot more sightings than have been made public. Some of those have been declassified.” —John Ratcliffe, former Director of National Intelligence”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:6004-6087 opinion first hand

  1226. 1226

    John Ratcliffe stated that reported Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings involve objects seen by United States Navy or United States Air Force pilots or picked up by satellite imagery that engage in actions difficult to explain.

    “When we talk about sightings, we’re talking about objects that have been seen by Navy or Air Force pilots or have been picked up by satellite imagery that frankly engage in actions that are difficult to explain…”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:6101-6304 opinion first hand

  1227. 1227

    John Ratcliffe stated that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings have occurred all over the world.

    “There have been sightings all over the world…”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:6313-6352 opinion first hand

  1228. 1228

    John Ratcliffe considers it would be healthy for as much information about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings to be made public as possible so the American people can see what has been dealt with.

    “So I think it would be healthy for as much as this information to get out there as possible so the American people can see some of the things we have been dealing with.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch35:6426-6589 opinion first hand

  1229. 1229

    James Clapper told Lue Elizondo he was surprised to learn the Pentagon had admitted it had a UAP programme.

    “He told me he was surprised to learn the Pentagon had admitted it had a UAP program.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:1586-1662 testimony second hand

  1230. 1230

    Harold Puthoff and Eric Davis were essential to Lue Elizondo's understanding of how Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operate.

    “They were essential to our understanding of how UAPs operate.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:2030-2083 opinion first hand

  1231. 1231

    During the 2018 Italy filming trip, Lue Elizondo met individuals in the Italian military and special operations community who had witnessed and investigated many Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) incidents.

    “We met individuals in the Italian military and special operations community who had witnessed and investigated many UAP incidents for themselves.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:3039-3173 testimony first hand

  1232. 1232

    During his Argentina visit, Lue Elizondo met fighter pilots who had encountered Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and had tried to shoot one down.

    “I also met fighter pilots who encountered UAP and even tried to shoot one down.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch37:3394-3468 testimony first hand

  1233. 1233

    Luis Elizondo is the former head of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the Pentagon unit that researched Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), now known as Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “LUIS “LUE” ELIZONDO is the former head of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the Pentagon unit that researched UFOs, now known as unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP).”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch38:68-261 administrative

  1234. 1234

    US Navy aviators routinely encountered UAP off the US east coast in designated military training areas.

    “US Navy aviators were routinely encountering UAP off the east coast in designated military training areas.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:17163-17263 opinion first hand

  1235. 1235

    The National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and National Security Agency (NSA) appeared to hold important UAP data that they were not sharing with each other.

    “Meanwhile, the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), and the National Security Agency (NSA) also appeared to have important UAP data they were not sharing.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:17564-17844 opinion first hand

  1236. 1236

    US Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid earmarked $22 million in Department of Defense (DoD) funds in 2008 for a UAP investigation conducted by an aerospace contractor.

    “an investigation into the UAP issue that had been undertaken by an aerospace contractor using $22 million in DoD funds earmarked for UAP analysis by Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in 2008.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:18285-18471 administrative

  1237. 1237

    From 1970 to 2017 there was no meaningful change in either the stated position of the US government or in public perceptions of the UAP topic.

    “there was no meaningful change in either the stated position of the US government or in public perceptions of the UAP topic.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:1981-2099 opinion first hand

  1238. 1238

    Christopher Mellon and Luis Elizondo discussed a plan to bring the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue before the United States Congress and the American people in the event Luis Elizondo resigned.

    “We also discussed a plan I developed to get the issue before Congress and the American people in the event Lue resigned”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:21052-21163 testimony first hand

  1239. 1239

    After Luis Elizondo resigned in protest, Christopher Mellon and Luis Elizondo launched an effort to bring information about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) to the United States Congress, the press, and the American people.

    “we immediately launched a concerted effort to get him and this critical information about UAP to Congress, the press, and the American people”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:21358-21493 testimony first hand

  1240. 1240

    The United States Department of Defense (DoD) and the intelligence community now acknowledge that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are real and the phenomenon is global.

    “DoD and the IC now acknowledge that UAP are real and the phenomenon is global”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:22082-22153 administrative

  1241. 1241

    Over one thousand military reports of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) have been logged since 2004.

    “Military reports are pouring in—over one thousand since 2004 at last count”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:22161-22230 measurement

  1242. 1242

    Christopher Mellon considers the briefings by Navy aviators to the US Senate Armed Services Committee the seminal event that legitimised the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue for the United States Congress and later the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).

    “These briefings by Navy aviators were the seminal event that legitimized the UAP issue for Congress and later NASA”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:22625-22735 opinion first hand

  1243. 1243

    The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) topic is now covered by the mainstream press, championed by the United States Congress, and adopted as a mission area by the United States Department of Defense (DoD) and the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA).

    “Today the topic is being covered by the mainstream press, championed by Congress, and adopted as a legitimate and important mission area by the Department of Defense, NASA, and the US intelligence community”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:22929-23155 opinion first hand

  1244. 1244

    Christopher Mellon considers Luis Elizondo's persistence and courage responsible for the US government no longer denying the existence of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “absent Lue's persistence and courage, the US government would still be denying the existence of UAP and failing to investigate a phenomenon that may well prove to be the greatest discovery in history”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:24027-24219 opinion first hand

  1245. 1245

    By 2017 most commercial and military personnel were afraid to report UAP observations for fear of damaging their careers and reputations.

    “the UAP stigma was still so bad in 2017 that most commercial and military personnel were afraid to report their observations for fear of damaging their careers and reputations.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:2437-2601 opinion first hand

  1246. 1246

    The CIA's Robertson Panel, in 1953, claimed to fear that US air defence communications might be overwhelmed by UAP reports.

    “Claiming to fear US air defense communications might be overwhelmed by UAP reports...”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:3178-3253 administrative second hand

  1247. 1247

    The CIA's Robertson Panel advised the United States Air Force to enlist the Walt Disney Company and the mass media in a campaign to debunk UAP.

    “this CIA panel advised the Air Force to enlist the Walt Disney Company and the mass media in a campaign to “debunk” UAP.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:3262-3378 administrative second hand

  1248. 1248

    The Condon Committee inquiry, an Air Force-funded UAP study at the University of Colorado chaired by physicist Edward Condon, declared the UAP topic devoid of scientific merit.

    “A subsequent Air Force–funded UAP study at the University of Colorado went further, declaring the topic devoid of scientific merit. Chaired by physicist Edward Condon...”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:3383-3543 administrative second hand

  1249. 1249

    The Condon Committee inquiry recommended that academic institutions ensure students could not receive academic credit for studying the UAP issue.

    “it went so far as to recommend that academic institutions ensure students could not receive academic credit for studying the UAP issue.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:3551-3680 administrative second hand

  1250. 1250

    By 1970 the United States Air Force officially maintained that UAP reports resulted from a mild form of hysteria, fabricated hoaxes or attempts to seek publicity, psychopathological persons, and misidentification of natural objects.

    “the Air Force disingenuously took the position that UAP were simply the result of “a mild form of hysteria; individuals who fabricate reports to perpetrate a hoax or seek publicity; psychopathological persons, and misidentification of natural objects.””

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:3970-4239 administrative second hand

  1251. 1251

    The United States Air Force maintained that no UFO reported, investigated, and evaluated by the US Air Force had ever given any indication of a threat to national security.

    “the Air Force continued to staunchly maintain that “[n]o UFO reported, investigated and evaluated by the US Air Force has ever given any indication of a threat to national security.””

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:4595-4767 administrative second hand

  1252. 1252

    The United States Air Force claimed there was no indication of UAP technology beyond the range of present-day knowledge.

    “the Air Force even claimed there was no indication of technology “beyond the range of present day knowledge.””

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:4839-4937 administrative second hand

  1253. 1253

    Lue Elizondo played a central and indispensable role in changing the way humanity views the issue of unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP).

    “I can say without fear of contradiction that Lue has played a central and indispensable role in forever changing the way humanity views the issue of unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP).”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:530-713 opinion first hand

  1254. 1254

    Lue Elizondo arranged for Christopher Mellon to participate in official debriefings with Dave Fravor, Alex Dietrich, and other US Navy personnel who had seen UAP up close or on military sensor systems.

    “he later arranged for me to participate in official debriefings with Commander Fravor, Lieutenant Alex Dietrich, and other Navy personnel who had seen UAP up close or on military sensor systems.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch6:9189-9375 administrative first hand

  1255. 1255

    Luis Elizondo considers the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and the nonhuman intelligence (NHI) controlling them a very serious national security issue and possibly an existential threat to humanity.

    “UAP, and the nonhuman intelligence controlling them, present at best a very serious national security issue, and at worst the possibility of an existential threat to humanity.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:1225-1391 opinion first hand

  1256. 1256

    Luis Elizondo and his colleagues gained insight over time into how Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operate and into the intentions of the nonhuman intelligence (NHI) behind them.

    “Over time, my colleagues and I gained insight into *how* these mysterious UAP operate, and into the intentions of the nonhuman intelligence behind them.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:1901-2048 testimony first hand

  1257. 1257

    Luis Elizondo was recruited into a highly sensitive US intelligence programme investigating Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), also known as UFOs.

    “my life changed forever when I was recruited into a strange and highly sensitive US intelligence program... The program investigated the global mystery that is "unidentified anomalous phenomena," or UAP for short, also known to many as UFOs.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:296-567 testimony first hand

  1258. 1258

    Luis Elizondo spent nearly a decade working on the US intelligence programme investigating Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “For nearly a decade, I found myself on the front lines of the biggest paradigm shift in human history”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:573-667 testimony first hand

  1259. 1259

    Luis Elizondo considers unidentified craft to have beyond-next-generation technology.

    “Unidentified craft with beyond-next-generation technology”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:730-777 opinion first hand

  1260. 1260

    Luis Elizondo considers unidentified craft able to move in ways that defy known physics.

    “including the ability to move in ways that defy our knowledge of physics”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:788-853 opinion first hand

  1261. 1261

    Luis Elizondo considers unidentified craft capable of operating within air, water, and space.

    “to do so within air, water, and space”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:865-897 opinion first hand

  1262. 1262

    Luis Elizondo considers unidentified craft to have been operating with complete impunity all over the world since at least World War II.

    “have been operating with complete impunity all over the world since at least World War II”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:903-990 opinion first hand

  1263. 1263

    Luis Elizondo believes the unidentified craft investigated by the programme are not made by humans.

    “These craft are not made by humans.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch8:995-1023 opinion first hand

  1264. 1264

    James Lacatski told Luis Elizondo that the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Applications Program focused on unusual phenomena and investigated unidentified aircraft that display beyond-next-generation technology and capabilities, now called unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP), previously referred to as UFOs.

    “He explained that AAWSAP focused on "unusual phenomena" and investigated unidentified aircraft, specifically ones that seem to display beyond-next-generation technology and capabilities—what we now call unidentified anomalous phenomena, or UAP, or what were long referred to as UFOs.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:11397-11675 testimony first hand

  1265. 1265

    James Lacatski told Luis Elizondo that the phenomena the program focused on did not conform to physics as currently understood.

    “Jim emphasized that what they focused on didn't conform to physics as we understood it.”

    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs 2024-08-19 ch9:12027-12111 opinion first hand

  1266. 1266

    Jesse DeLuca spoke with Jim about the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) subject the week before this conversation.

    “i spoke to one last week jim”

    UAP Caught on Drone in 4K! - DEBRIEFED ep. 5 2024-09-05 00:24:17.2-00:24:18.8 administrative first hand

  1267. 1267

    Chris Ramsey considers Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) to be confirmed to exist, based on video, photo, and testimonial evidence.

    “UFOs, you're allowed in. We know you exist. We have videos. We have photos. We have testimony.”

    The Clearest Video of a Tic Tac UAP! - DEBRIEFED ep. 6 2024-09-13 00:13:26.4-00:13:31.5 opinion first hand

  1268. 1268

    A streak of unidentified aerial phenomena were taken down by US and Canadian authorities starting on 2023-01-04 in USA, South Carolina.

    “there was a streak of these quote unquote spy balloons that were taken down starting on January 4th in South Carolina.”

    Horseshoe UAP Video Surfaces! - DEBRIEFED ep. 08 2024-10-02 00:02:53.8-00:03:00.1 administrative first hand

  1269. 1269

    The craft downed in the 2023 Yukon UAP shootdown was officially named UAP-23 because it was the 23rd sighting of a UAP in that short period of time.

    “They even call it UAP-23 because this is the 23rd sighting in that short amount of time that they've had of a UAP. So this is UAP-23. That is the official name of this craft, by the way.”

    Horseshoe UAP Video Surfaces! - DEBRIEFED ep. 08 2024-10-02 00:08:57.3-00:09:11.0 administrative

  1270. 1270

    There are divisions of the United States government dedicated to finding out what unidentified aerial phenomena are, including the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), and the former Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).

    “There are divisions of the government that are dedicated to finding out what these UAP are, whether that's through NASA or through Arrow, the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office. or even through the former ATIP program.”

    Horseshoe UAP Video Surfaces! - DEBRIEFED ep. 08 2024-10-02 00:18:01.1-00:18:15.5 administrative first hand

  1271. 1271

    If passed, the UAP Disclosure Act would allow investigation and disclosure of past UAP events to the public, similar to the release of the JFK assassination records.

    “this disclosure act if passed would mean that we can look into past uap events and disclose them to the public much like they would with the jfk assassination”

    Horseshoe UAP Video Surfaces! - DEBRIEFED ep. 08 2024-10-02 00:20:08.6-00:20:18.4 administrative first hand

  1272. 1272

    The Immaculate Constellation whistleblower's report claims that the United States Department of Defense (Pentagon) is illegally withholding information from the United States Congress about a secret UAP program.

    “And in that report, they claim that the Pentagon is illegally withholding information from Congress about a secret UAP program.”

    Journalist Leaked UAP Program "Immaculate Constellation" - DEBRIEFED ep. 10 2024-10-18 00:02:21.6-00:02:31.5 hearsay second hand

  1273. 1273

    The secret UAP program described by the whistleblower is called Immaculate Constellation and is considered a parent program of other, subordinate programs.

    “And that secret UAP program is considered a parent program of other programs, but it's called Immaculate Constellation.”

    Journalist Leaked UAP Program "Immaculate Constellation" - DEBRIEFED ep. 10 2024-10-18 00:02:32.3-00:02:38.5 hearsay second hand

  1274. 1274

    Michael Schellenberger's report states that Immaculate Constellation handles classified materials related to UAP encounters.

    “His report highlighted that this program handles classified materials related to UAP encounters and operates under an unacknowledged special access program, USAP.”

    Journalist Leaked UAP Program "Immaculate Constellation" - DEBRIEFED ep. 10 2024-10-18 00:02:55.8-00:03:07.3 hearsay second hand

  1275. 1275

    F-22 Raptor jets were used to scramble UAP that appeared in the prior year.

    “F-22s were also used to scramble these UAP that sort of popped up last year.”

    Journalist Leaked UAP Program "Immaculate Constellation" - DEBRIEFED ep. 10 2024-10-18 00:03:48.8-00:03:53.6 testimony

  1276. 1276

    Immaculate Constellation reportedly contains a robust collection of imagery, including infrared, forward-looking infrared (FLIR) camera footage, full-motion video (FMV), and other surveillance footage documenting UAP encounters.

    “The program reportedly contains a robust collection of imagery, including infrared, forward-looking infrared, so FLIR cameras, full-motion video, FMVs, and other types of surveillance footage documenting these UAP encounters.”

    Journalist Leaked UAP Program "Immaculate Constellation" - DEBRIEFED ep. 10 2024-10-18 00:07:51.0-00:08:04.0 hearsay third hand

  1277. 1277

    George Knapp discussed a transmedium craft that dives into water and becomes a USO, an unidentified submerged object.

    “But he does talk about one of these transmedium crafts, meaning one of these UAP diving into water and becoming a USO, an unidentified submerged object.”

    Journalist Leaked UAP Program "Immaculate Constellation" - DEBRIEFED ep. 10 2024-10-18 00:14:09.5-00:14:18.2 testimony second hand

  1278. 1278

    A leaked document from an alleged whistleblower on 4chan, dated approximately a year and a half before this broadcast, described UAPs or USOs and claimed they were monitoring a construction facility in the ocean.

    “Also that leak or that quote unquote whistleblower on 4chan a year and a half ago... That was a really interesting document about how, you know, UAPs or USOs existed and that they were monitoring this, you know, construction facility in the ocean.”

    Journalist Leaked UAP Program "Immaculate Constellation" - DEBRIEFED ep. 10 2024-10-18 00:14:55.6-00:15:11.1 hearsay second hand

  1279. 1279

    Photos of alleged spheres or jellyfish-like UAPs, also referred to as Afghanistan Reapers, recently appeared in the news.

    “I wanted to mention another thing that popped up in the news, which were these two photos of alleged spheres or jellyfish-like UAPs slash Afghanistan Reapers is what they're allegedly being called.”

    Journalist Leaked UAP Program "Immaculate Constellation" - DEBRIEFED ep. 10 2024-10-18 00:16:26.1-00:16:41.9 hearsay

  1280. 1280

    Luis Elizondo considers that some adversaries of the United States are in possession of UAP technologies.

    “as are some of our adversaries”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:1036-1055 opinion first hand

  1281. 1281

    Luis Elizondo believes a multi-decade, secretive arms race is underway, funded by misallocated taxpayer dollars and hidden from elected representatives and oversight bodies.

    “I believe we are in the midst of a multi-decade, secretive arms race - one funded by misallocated taxpayer dollars and hidden from our elected representatives and oversight bodies.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:1068-1241 opinion first hand

  1282. 1282

    Over the last decade and a half, Luis Elizondo learned that certain UAP programmes were operating without a watchful Congress, a responsive Executive Branch, or an informed public.

    “Over the last decade and a half, I learned that certain UAP programs were, and are, operating without any of these elements.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2036-2151 testimony first hand

  1283. 1283

    Much of Luis Elizondo's government work on the subject of UAP remains classified.

    “Although much of my Government work on the UAP subject still remains classified”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2162-2231 administrative first hand

  1284. 1284

    Luis Elizondo considers that excessive secrecy around UAP has led to grave misdeeds against loyal civil servants, military personnel, and the public in order to hide the fact that humanity is not alone in the cosmos.

    “excessive secrecy has led to grave misdeeds against loyal civil servants, military personnel, and the public - all to hide the fact that we are not alone in the cosmos”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2243-2404 opinion first hand

  1285. 1285

    Luis Elizondo states that a small cadre within the United States Government involved in the UAP topic has created a culture of suppression and intimidation, of which he has personally been a victim.

    “A small cadre within our own Government involved in the UAP topic has created a culture of suppression and intimidation that I have personally been victim to, along with many of my former colleagues.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2413-2601 testimony first hand

  1286. 1286

    Luis Elizondo states that many of his former colleagues have also been victims of the culture of suppression and intimidation he describes within the United States Government's handling of the UAP topic.

    “along with many of my former colleagues”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2572-2601 testimony first hand

  1287. 1287

    Luis Elizondo states that this culture of suppression around UAP includes unwarranted criminal investigations, harassment, and efforts to destroy the credibility of those affected.

    “This includes unwarranted criminal investigations, harassment, and efforts to destroy one's credibility.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2613-2705 testimony first hand

  1288. 1288

    The Pentagon Public Affairs Office employs a professional psychological operations officer as the sole point of contact for any UAP-related inquiries from citizens and the media.

    “the Pentagon's very own Public Affairs Office openly employs a professional psychological operations officer as the singular point of contact for any UAP-related inquiries from citizens and the media”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:2765-2959 testimony first hand

  1289. 1289

    Luis Elizondo proposes that the United States Congress and the President create a single point-of-contact responsible for a whole-of-government approach to the UAP issue.

    “First, Congress and the President should create a single point-of-contact responsible for a whole-of-government approach to the UAP issue.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:3398-3530 opinion first hand

  1290. 1290

    Luis Elizondo states that the White House, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA), the Pentagon, and the United States Department of Energy currently play a role in the UAP issue but that no single entity is in charge.

    “Currently, the White House, CIA, NASA, the Pentagon, Department of Energy, and others play a role, but no one seems to be in charge, leading to unchecked power and corruption.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:3537-3725 testimony first hand

  1291. 1291

    Luis Elizondo considers that the lack of a single entity in charge of the UAP issue leads to unchecked power and corruption.

    “leading to unchecked power and corruption”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:3694-3725 opinion first hand

  1292. 1292

    Luis Elizondo proposes a national UAP strategy to promote transparency and restore public trust, including a whole-of-government approach involving the academic and scientific communities, the private sector, and international partners and allies.

    “Second, we need a national UAP strategy that will promote transparency and help restore the American public's trust at a time when the public's trust is at an all-time low. This strategy should include a whole-of-government approach, including the academic and scientific communities, the private sector, and our international partners and allies.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:3740-4080 opinion first hand

  1293. 1293

    Luis Elizondo considers that public trust in relation to the UAP topic is at an all-time low.

    “at a time when the public's trust is at an all-time low”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:3856-3908 opinion first hand

  1294. 1294

    Luis Elizondo states that UAP whistleblowers currently suffer because of stigma, a code of silence, and concerns about retaliation.

    “As it currently stands, these whistleblowers suffer because of stigma, a code of silence, and concerns about retaliation.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:4228-4337 testimony first hand

  1295. 1295

    Luis Elizondo proposes that Members of the United States House Committee on Oversight and Accountability and other lawmakers wield subpoena power against hostile witnesses and prevent additional government funding to UAP efforts that remain hidden from Congressional oversight.

    “it is up to the Members of this Committee and other lawmakers to wield their subpoena power against hostile witnesses and prevent additional Government funding to those UAP efforts that remain hidden from Congressional oversight”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:4562-4781 opinion first hand

  1296. 1296

    Luis Elizondo believes that Americans can handle the truth about UAP.

    “I believe that we as Americans can handle the truth.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:5379-5425 opinion first hand

  1297. 1297

    Luis Elizondo believes the world deserves the truth about UAP.

    “And I also believe the world deserves the truth.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:5432-5474 opinion first hand

  1298. 1298

    Luis Elizondo considers UAP to be real.

    “Let me be clear: UAP are real.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:802-827 opinion first hand

  1299. 1299

    Luis Elizondo considers that advanced technologies not made by the United States Government or any other government are monitoring sensitive military installations around the globe.

    “Advanced technologies not made by our Government - or any other government - are monitoring sensitive military installations around the globe.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:833-969 opinion first hand

  1300. 1300

    Luis Elizondo considers that the United States is in possession of UAP technologies.

    “Furthermore, the U.S. is in possession of UAP technologies, as are some of our adversaries.”

    Written Testimony of Luis Elizondo: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth 2024-11-13 char:976-1055 opinion first hand

  1301. 1301

    According to a report on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), 366 sightings were included, of which 171 remain uncharacterised.

    “Of the 366 sightings included in the report, 171 remain uncharacterized.”

    UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:00:00.2-00:00:04.4 measurement

  1302. 1302

    Many high-ranking individuals in the military and intelligence communities believe Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) demand greater attention.

    “And many high-ranking individuals in the military and intelligence communities believe UAPs demand greater attention.”

    UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:00:05.6-00:00:12.1 opinion

  1303. 1303

    The 2024 United States congressional hearing on UAPs (13 November) was the second congressional hearing on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena held in Washington, D.C.

    “What you are looking at right now is the second congressional hearing on UAPs in Washington, D.C.”

    UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:00:38.1-00:00:43.7 administrative

  1304. 1304

    The United States government has been conducting covert reverse-engineering programs on Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO) for approximately 70 to 80 years.

    “He made some pretty crazy claims, which is that the US has been engaging in covert reverse engineering UFO programs for the last 70, 80 years.”

    UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:05:23.6-00:05:31.1 hearsay second hand

  1305. 1305

    Public perception and public interest in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) topic increased significantly between the 2023 United States congressional hearing on UAPs (26 July) and the 2024 United States congressional hearing on UAPs (13 November).

    “some big big changes in public perception and even public interest the topic seems to be a lot more in the zeitgeist”

    UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:07:21.4-00:07:26.6 opinion first hand

  1306. 1306

    The United States government has conducted secret Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) crash retrieval programs.

    “Has the government conducted secret UAP crash retrieval programs, yes or no? ... Yes.”

    UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:10:52.5-00:10:56.2 testimony first hand

  1307. 1307

    The United States military and intelligence community possess a large amount of visual and other sensor information on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), including still photos, video, and other sensor data, which they have held for a long time.

    “the U.S. military and intelligence community are sitting on a huge amount of visual and other information, still photos, video photos, other sensor information, and they have for a very long time.”

    UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:11:16.5-00:11:27.8 testimony first hand

  1308. 1308

    Some of the visual material held by the United States military and intelligence community on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) is high resolution, unlike previously released blurry footage.

    “And it's not those fuzzy photos and videos that we've been given those very clear... High resolution.”

    UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:11:28.2-00:11:32.8 testimony first hand

  1309. 1309

    David Grush has been told there are hundreds, possibly thousands, of visuals, graphics, videos and photos of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) held by the government.

    “How many, how many visuals, graphics, videos, photos? ... I mean, I've been told hundreds, you know, maybe thousands.”

    UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:11:35.0-00:11:41.5 hearsay second hand

  1310. 1310

    Lockheed Martin's stated expertise is in aerospace, within the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) space.

    “What's Lockheed's expertise? Aerospace, ma'am. In the UAP space, that's all.”

    UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:15:06.3-00:15:10.5 testimony

  1311. 1311

    Sean considers Jesse Michaels to be the most important voice in the UFO domain, describing him as more thorough in research and more multidisciplinary than others in the field.

    “Jesse's the most important voice in the UFO domain right now. There's nobody that researches deeper than him. There's nobody that has the multidisciplinary approach that he has.”

    UAPs in Washington - I wasn't supposed to be there.. 2024-11-24 00:17:51.3-00:18:00.4 opinion first hand

  1312. 1312

    Whitley Strieber considers that there is much known about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and some of their occupants within the US defence establishment, concentrated on materials and biology rather than aims, motives, or their relationship to the soul.

    “There is much known about UAPs and some of their occupants within the U.S. defense establishment, but it is concentrated on aspects like materials and biology, not so much on aims and motives and the needs behind them, let alone their relationship to the ineffable and intricately resonant part of us that we call the soul”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch10:6707-7025 opinion first hand

  1313. 1313

    Unidentified Flying Objects are routinely observed displaying both small size, sometimes just a few metres in diameter, and seemingly limitless propulsion.

    “We routinely observe UFOs that display both small size, sometimes just a few meters in diameter, and seemingly limitless propulsion.”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:14350-14471 opinion first hand

  1314. 1314

    Whitley Strieber considers zero-point energy the one known force that might enable the limitless propulsion observed in small Unidentified Flying Objects.

    “The one force we know of that might enable this level of functionality is the release of zero-point energy.”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:14483-14583 opinion first hand

  1315. 1315

    Whitley Strieber believes that visitors associated with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena have escaped the thin line of the present moment within the block universe that humans perceive as they move through time.

    “If this theory is correct, then what has happened is that our visitors have apparently escaped the thin line of moment—the now—that is what we perceive as we move through the block.”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch21:1520-1695 opinion first hand

  1316. 1316

    Whitley Strieber has been close enough to a modern UFO while it was slowing down to hear something that had been spinning inside it at high speed coming to a softly clattering stop.

    “I have been close enough to a modern UFO while it was slowing down to hear something that had been spinning inside it at high speed coming to a softly clattering stop.”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch23:9523-9685 testimony first hand

  1317. 1317

    Some videos of UFOs made at close range with high clarity reveal lines of force around the objects, likely visible because the objects generate magnetic fields intense enough to affect the cameras.

    “Some videos of UFOs, made at fairly close range and with high clarity, reveal lines of force around the objects that are likely visible in the digital medium because the objects are generating magnetic fields so intense that they affect the cameras.”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:17706-17947 opinion first hand

  1318. 1318

    There are many stories of UFOs causing cars to suddenly stop when the cars come into close proximity with the UFOs.

    “there are many stories of UFOs causing cars to suddenly stop when they come into close proximity with them”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:17969-18071 hearsay

  1319. 1319

    Whitley Strieber suggests that the presence of intense magnetic fields around UFOs defying gravity would indicate a relationship between magnetism and gravity, even though such a relationship is not otherwise seen.

    “While we do not see magnetic fields as being related to gravity, the presence of intense magnetic fields around UFOs which are defying gravity would suggest that such a relationship does exist.”

    The Fourth Mind 2025-01-15 ch25:18608-18795 opinion first hand

  1320. 1320

    The public is rightfully demanding to know the truth about Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “"The public is rightfully demanding to know the truth and it is my true privilege for me to serve the people of this country once again."”

    Rep. Burlison Welcomes Former U.S. Air Force Officer David Grusch as Special Advisor 2025-03-27 char:2078-2207 opinion first hand

  1321. 1321

    Eric Burlison underscores his commitment to government accountability and transparency on the Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) topic with the appointment of David Grusch as Special Advisor.

    “underscores his commitment to government accountability and transparency on the UAP topic with this appointment”

    Rep. Burlison Welcomes Former U.S. Air Force Officer David Grusch as Special Advisor 2025-03-27 char:2642-2742 administrative

  1322. 1322

    David Grusch previously gave sworn testimony before the US House Oversight & Accountability Committee about the federal government's Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) activities.

    “Grusch, recognized for his previous sworn testimony before House Oversight & Accountability Committee about the federal government's Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) activities”

    Rep. Burlison Welcomes Former U.S. Air Force Officer David Grusch as Special Advisor 2025-03-27 char:311-483 administrative

  1323. 1323

    David Grusch will contribute his expertise to Eric Burlison's efforts to promote transparency regarding Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) and other matters on the Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets.

    “will contribute his expertise to Rep. Burlison's efforts to promote transparency regarding UAP and other matters on the Task Force on the Declassification of Federal Secrets”

    Rep. Burlison Welcomes Former U.S. Air Force Officer David Grusch as Special Advisor 2025-03-27 char:495-661 administrative

  1324. 1324

    The American people deserve answers about Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

    “"The American people deserve answers about UAPs," said Rep. Burlison.”

    Rep. Burlison Welcomes Former U.S. Air Force Officer David Grusch as Special Advisor 2025-03-27 char:673-735 opinion first hand

  1325. 1325

    Eric observed a cigar-shaped UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) in spring 2013 while flying from Denver to Saskatchewan at cruising altitude.

    “Spring of 2013, I was flying from Denver to Saskatchewan, and we were at cruising altitude just across the border into Canada, and I see out of the starboard side window, there's this flying cigar pointed on the ends”

    Aliens and Albert Einstein - The Secret Document - DEBRIEFED ep. 33 2025-04-11 00:00:03.9-00:00:22.4 observation first hand

  1326. 1326

    Eric observed the cigar-shaped object was pointed on both ends, solid white in colour, with no visible means of propulsion, and moving without a wavy motion.

    “there's this flying cigar pointed on the ends, solid white, no visible means of propulsion, not wavy”

    Aliens and Albert Einstein - The Secret Document - DEBRIEFED ep. 33 2025-04-11 00:00:17.5-00:00:27.9 observation first hand

  1327. 1327

    Eric observed the cigar-shaped object travelling in the opposite direction to his aircraft at the same altitude before it passed out of view.

    “going the opposite direction as us at the same altitude. And it passed.”

    Aliens and Albert Einstein - The Secret Document - DEBRIEFED ep. 33 2025-04-11 00:00:32.1-00:00:38.6 observation first hand

  1328. 1328

    Eric estimated the object he observed was travelling at approximately 1,100 to 1,300 kilometres per hour.

    “It was probably going, I don't know, 700, 800 miles an hour.”

    Aliens and Albert Einstein - The Secret Document - DEBRIEFED ep. 33 2025-04-11 00:00:39.0-00:00:42.8 measurement first hand

  1329. 1329

    Eric said he and his colleagues saw cigar-shaped UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) with decent regularity during his flights.

    “And we saw cigar-shaped UFOs like that with decent regularity.”

    Aliens and Albert Einstein - The Secret Document - DEBRIEFED ep. 33 2025-04-11 00:00:48.4-00:00:53.6 testimony first hand

  1330. 1330

    Following the 1947 Kenneth Arnold UFO sighting, newspapers first used the term "flying saucer" the next day.

    “In the papers the next day, the world first saw the term flying saucer.”

    Aliens and Albert Einstein - The Secret Document - DEBRIEFED ep. 33 2025-04-11 00:01:42.0-00:01:46.4 administrative

  1331. 1331

    Chris Ramsey notes that there is an agreement between Russia and the United States under which either country must notify the other if an unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) appears on radar, to check whether it was a mistaken detection of the other's activity, so as to avoid it being mistaken for a nuclear attack.

    “there is actually an agreement between russia and the united states and in that agreement they speak about unidentified aerial phenomenon being mistaken for a potential nuke so in the event that a ufo shows up on either radar of either country they must notify each other and ask each other if that was them”

    Aliens and Albert Einstein - The Secret Document - DEBRIEFED ep. 33 2025-04-11 00:32:31.0-00:32:50.3 opinion first hand

  1332. 1332

    Chris Ramsey considers J. Robert Oppenheimer possibly more involved in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) or Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject than Albert Einstein was.

    “I think I would find that Oppenheimer... would be possibly more involved in the UAP or UFO subject than Albert Einstein was.”

    Aliens and Albert Einstein - The Secret Document - DEBRIEFED ep. 33 2025-04-11 00:35:58.9-00:36:12.0 opinion first hand

  1333. 1333

    Peter Khoury noted that egg-shaped UAP sightings were rarely discussed when he first began researching the UFO field, unlike in later years when such reports became more common.

    “now these days I'm hearing a lot about egg-shaped objects where back then, um, when I first got into the UFO field and started researching now, I hardly heard anybody talk.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 00:12:59.2-00:13:09.2 opinion first hand

  1334. 1334

    During the 1988 Peter Khoury bedroom hooded entity encounter, while paralysed, Peter Khoury thought the three beings around him looked terrific and he was petrified, initially interpreting the situation as evil or demonic rather than as a UFO or alien encounter.

    “I've got three beings around me that look terrific to me. And I was petrified. And I'm thinking, this is evil. This is the devil. And I'm not thinking UFO, even though they're right there. I'm not thinking alien.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 00:49:49.3-00:50:02.4 observation first hand

  1335. 1335

    An unnamed psychologist in Queensland, Australia told Peter Khoury that what he was experiencing was related to UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects) and aliens, saying he had heard similar accounts from a lot of people.

    “And he said, look, I've been hearing this from a lot of people. And what I think you're experiencing is related to the UFOs and aliens.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:35:42.6-01:35:51.0 hearsay second hand

  1336. 1336

    The Invisible College dates back to the mid-1600s and, in its modern form, is a group of scientists, physicists, and other researchers across the hard and soft sciences who study UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) phenomena while keeping their involvement private to protect their credibility, livelihoods, and jobs.

    “there's this dates back to like the mid 1600s but essentially the invisible college and the modern version of the invisible college um is a conglomerate of really intelligent and uh industry leaders in terms of like scientists physicists uh everything from microbiology to... a bunch of people who get together who know about the taboo, and don't want to risk their credibility, their livelihood, their jobs”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:36:43.4-01:37:20.8 opinion first hand

  1337. 1337

    Peter Khoury ran a table at a UFO conference with an emblem for his support group depicting a UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) and a human and aliens meeting together.

    “I had a stand with my emblem, like the group emblem, which is a UFO and a support group meeting, a human and aliens meeting together.”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 01:48:56.0-01:49:04.3 observation first hand

  1338. 1338

    Chris Ramsay considers that most people, when confronted with anomalous information such as the UFO phenomenon, only exercise the first two of three choices: ignoring it or fitting it into the current model, rather than expanding their worldview.

    “and those first two unfortunately is all we do but not only with the you know, alien topic or UFO phenomenon”

    UFO Witness Reveals CHILLING Daytime Alien Encounter - Peter Khoury - DEBRIEFED ep. 58 2025-10-17 02:08:52.8-02:08:59.5 opinion first hand

  1339. 1339

    Ross Coulthart began investigating the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject approximately eight years before 2026-02-20.

    “I set out eight years ago with the arrogant, conformational bias assumption that this was all an American black program”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:06:57.6-00:07:06.1 testimony first hand

  1340. 1340

    Ross Coulthart began his Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) investigation with the confirmation-bias assumption that the phenomenon was entirely an American black programme.

    “I set out eight years ago with the arrogant, conformational bias assumption that this was all an American black program”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:06:57.6-00:07:06.1 testimony first hand

  1341. 1341

    Ross Coulthart considers Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) to be physical, detectable objects.

    “I think we're at the point now where we know that these are physical objects. They're detectable.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:07:13.6-00:07:17.9 opinion first hand

  1342. 1342

    The United States admits the existence of unidentified anomalous phenomena while maintaining that it does not know what they are or whether they are extraterrestrial.

    “The US is admitting that this phenomena, this unidentified anomalous phenomena, but they maintain the fiction that they have no idea what it is. They don't know if it's extraterrestrial.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:07:19.1-00:07:30.0 testimony first hand

  1343. 1343

    Ross Coulthart considers investigative journalism into the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) subject to be an underserved market.

    “it was a natural progression and an underserved market really”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:08:27.9-00:08:31.7 opinion first hand

  1344. 1344

    Chris Ramsay worked as a magician and built a channel about sleight-of-hand and misdirection mysteries over a decade before turning to the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject.

    “I relate to that a lot as a magician... I spent a decade sort of nurturing and building to all of a sudden, you know, turn my gaze to this stuff”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:08:46.0-00:08:55.8 testimony first hand

  1345. 1345

    Ross Coulthart's father told him in 1978 that he had seen a Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) near their New Zealand town.

    “telling me on a particular night that he had seen a UFO”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:10:31.7-00:10:35.4 testimony second hand

  1346. 1346

    The local policeman in the New Zealand town where Ross Coulthart's father lived also saw and reported a Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) in 1978.

    “the policeman had talked to him about how he'd also seen it and that he'd reported it”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:10:43.1-00:10:46.7 hearsay third hand

  1347. 1347

    Ross Coulthart's father was a sceptic who did not believe in Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) accounts.

    “dad was a total skeptic. He didn't believe any of this bullshit.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:11:23.8-00:11:27.2 testimony first hand

  1348. 1348

    Ross Coulthart considers Bruce Maccabee one of the most respected analysts of Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) cases of the past 50 years.

    “one of, I think, the most respected analysts of UFOs in the last 50 years is Bruce McAbee”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:20:16.9-00:20:23.6 opinion first hand

  1349. 1349

    Bruce Maccabee is an American physicist who had an association with a quasi-defence agency and conducted Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) research on the side.

    “an American, I think he was a physicist. But he had a vague association with a quasi-defense agency, but he did a lot of UFO work on the side.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:20:24.0-00:20:34.6 administrative first hand

  1350. 1350

    Chris Ramsay's impression from following news coverage is that very few people in the United States Congress know much about UFOs.

    “like with Congress and everything, I can't help but think that they don't know very much. Like it's the gestalt that I get.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:31:33.3-00:31:41.0 opinion first hand

  1351. 1351

    Ross Coulthart considers there to have been a change in the handling of UAP secrecy since 2017.

    “I think there's been a change since 2017.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:31:56.3-00:31:58.8 opinion first hand

  1352. 1352

    The Pentagon published a report in 2021 acknowledging that UAP are real and cannot be discounted.

    “they published a report in 2021 acknowledging that UAPs are real. Whatever they are, they're real. They're not something that can be discounted.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:32:29.9-00:32:37.5 administrative second hand

  1353. 1353

    Ross Coulthart considers the 2021 Pentagon acknowledgement that UAP are real to have been a major turning point in public awareness of the issue.

    “That for me was a huge turning point in, I think, public awareness of the issue.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:32:38.8-00:32:42.8 opinion first hand

  1354. 1354

    Before 2021 many members of the United States Congress, including members of the Gang of Eight, were genuinely unaware of UAP programmes.

    “I would say that a lot of the people in Congress were genuinely oblivious, including, I can say this, members of the Gang of Eight.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:32:45.9-00:32:53.5 opinion first hand

  1355. 1355

    Around 2018 to 2020 sources categorically denied to Ross Coulthart any knowledge of a UFO retrieval programme, but became evasive when he returned to them after the 2021 Pentagon acknowledgement of UAP.

    “There were people who were denying knowledge to me of any kind of program categorically in about 2018, 2019, 2020. And then when I went back to them after that moment, when in 2021, the Pentagon had made the admission that there are UAPs, they were evasive.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:35:28.5-00:35:51.2 testimony first hand

  1356. 1356

    Ross Coulthart considers the ideals of the United States Constitution to have been corrupted by the UAP programme.

    “the interesting thing to me is how those ideals have been corrupted, sadly, with this story, with the UAP program”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:40:43.1-00:40:49.8 opinion first hand

  1357. 1357

    Roscoe Hillenkoetter was one of the biggest UFO disclosure activists of his time in the 1950s.

    “was also one of the biggest UFO disclosure activists of his time in the 1950s.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:46:28.2-00:46:32.9 administrative

  1358. 1358

    Ross Coulthart compares investigating the UFO story to walking blindfold through a room grabbing at objects as he goes.

    “i sometimes feel in this whole story i'm walking through a room blindfold and i'm just grabbing stuff as i'm going through”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:49:19.5-00:49:25.2 opinion first hand

  1359. 1359

    In a bar in Georgetown, Washington DC, a person Ross Coulthart knew from another story, whom he would normally see in an extremely senior uniform, leaned across the table and told him the UFO subject was real.

    “I met somebody in a Georgetown bar in Washington who was, normally I'd see them in uniform and the uniform they were wearing was extremely senior ... they leaned across the table to me and said, it's real, Roscoe.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:53:45.2-00:54:00.5 hearsay second hand

  1360. 1360

    Ross Coulthart began his UFO investigation with a confirmation bias, intending to disprove what he then regarded as UFO nonsense.

    “I was guilty of starting out with a conformational bias. I was doing what a journalist should not do. I'd started out thinking, being a smug little smart ass, I was going to disprove this UFO nonsense. I really did think it was nonsense.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:54:17.2-00:54:29.9 testimony first hand

  1361. 1361

    Chris Ramsay is fairly certain the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon is not a singular thing but is multifaceted, dynamic, changing, and aware of humans.

    “i'm pretty certain that the phenomenon isn't a singular uh thing that we're dealing with it is probably multifaceted it is probably dynamic and changing and it is aware we're aware of it.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:56:29.1-00:56:41.1 opinion first hand

  1362. 1362

    Nobody Ross Coulthart is speaking to is telling him there will be any kind of Donald Trump announcement on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) any time soon.

    “I'm certainly not being told by anybody I'm speaking to that there's going to be any kind of Trump announcement anytime soon.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:57:29.1-00:57:34.8 testimony first hand

  1363. 1363

    Chris Ramsay considers humanity was closer to collective disclosure in the 1950s, when people were talking about space brothers and putting nuclear weapons away, than it is now.

    “The conversation skipped a beat like we were closer, I think, to collective disclosure in the 50s. than we are now when people were talking about space brothers and putting the nukes away”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 00:59:58.8-01:00:13.0 opinion first hand

  1364. 1364

    Ross Coulthart considers that a lot of disinformation is sprinkled into the UFO subject, naming Richard Doty as an example of someone who spreads falsehoods to sow discord inside the community.

    “there's a lot of sprinkling of disinformation. There are the Richard Doty's who just love gaily spreading little droplets of falsity to try and sow discord inside the community.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:08:27.4-01:08:38.8 opinion first hand

  1365. 1365

    Ross Coulthart considers the UFO community to be riven by infighting and criticism rather than acting as a concerted group pushing for disclosure.

    “the UFO community itself is a sewer of snide barbs and rasping criticism. It needs to be a more concerted and unanimous group trying to sort of fight and push for information and disclosure, but it's doing its level best to stab each other in the back.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:08:40.3-01:08:56.8 opinion first hand

  1366. 1366

    Ross Coulthart considers infighting in the UFO community to help the intelligence community and the Department of Defense maintain the line that there is no evidence of extraterrestrial engagement with Earth.

    “that's what helps the intelligence community and the defense department to try and keep on pushing the line that there is no evidence of extraterrestrial engagement with this planet.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:09:00.0-01:09:09.2 opinion first hand

  1367. 1367

    Ross Coulthart considers the institutional legacy media glacially slow in beginning to address Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, and believes the subject is well past the probative basis for being taken seriously.

    “At what point does the institutional legacy media go, oh, there might be a story here. This is the thing I just don't get is the glacial slowness with which the legacy media is even beginning to address this issue. ... we're way past the probative basis for taking this seriously now.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:11:05.3-01:11:29.0 opinion first hand

  1368. 1368

    Ross Coulthart knows multiple witnesses not yet known to the public or the media who have given evidence on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena to the United States Senate Select Committee on Intelligence and the United States Senate Committee on Armed Services.

    “I know multiple witnesses who've not yet become known to the public, to the media, who've given evidence to the Senate Intelligence Committee, the Senate Armed Services Committee, the Hask.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:12:15.3-01:12:26.5 testimony first hand

  1369. 1369

    Ross Coulthart is perplexed that congressional committees have not pursued the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena information given to them.

    “i'm perplexed as to why these committees haven't developed more fangs to go and chase down the information that they've been given”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:12:34.0-01:12:42.1 opinion first hand

  1370. 1370

    Ross Coulthart believes certain key United States senators, particularly majority leaders, have been taken aside and given privileged information about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, which has shut down congressional momentum.

    “there's been an incredible power play behind the scenes where certain key senators in particular, majority leaders have been taken aside and discreetly spoken to. And they're just given enough privileged information because information is currency. ... What that's done is it's shut down Congress momentum.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:13:04.7-01:13:31.6 opinion first hand

  1371. 1371

    Towards the end of the year before 2026-02-20, new Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure laws appeared likely to pass.

    “we were going really well towards the end of last year. It was looking like we were going to get disclosure laws, new disclosure laws that were absolutely essential.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:13:34.6-01:13:42.2 testimony first hand

  1372. 1372

    Ross Coulthart believes congressional gatekeepers have made a calculated decision to sit on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure following heavy lobbying from the defence and intelligence community.

    “at the moment, they've made a calculated decision based on, I think, a lot of lobbying from the defense and intelligence community to quietly sit down and quietly [inaudible]”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:17:02.7-01:17:12.2 opinion first hand

  1373. 1373

    Ross Coulthart was the first to suggest applying a truth and reconciliation style amnesty process to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena secrecy issue.

    “well i i think i was the first to suggest this”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:24:24.8-01:24:26.9 opinion first hand

  1374. 1374

    Chris Ramsay considers that people inside the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena secrecy programmes are not operating under government oversight, so an offer of immunity would leave them exposed to being killed rather than protected.

    “the difference here is that these people aren't operating under government oversight ... we can offer them this immunity, but they're going to get a bullet to the back of the head.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:26:21.7-01:26:31.6 opinion first hand

  1375. 1375

    Ross Coulthart agrees that some people connected to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena secret have been killed.

    “Chris Ramsay: they're going to get a bullet to the back of the head. Ross Coulthart: yeah well i mean some of them have”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:26:29.5-01:26:33.4 opinion first hand

  1376. 1376

    Ross Coulthart considers that the United States Congress has dropped the ball on the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena issue and is who the public should be angry with.

    “this is what really angers me because congress has dropped the ball and this is who we should be angry with”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:26:37.6-01:26:42.5 opinion first hand

  1377. 1377

    Ross Coulthart hopes momentum for the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena issue can be generated as part of a broader investigation arising from the Jeffrey Epstein case and the idea of a deep state.

    “What I'm wondering is whether we can get momentum for the UAP issue out of that as well, as part of a broader investigation”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:27:23.1-01:27:30.5 opinion first hand

  1378. 1378

    Chris Ramsay considers that the release of the documentary film The Age of Disclosure has increased public interest in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena subject.

    “in light of recent, you know, age of disclosure coming out, there's been a little bit more public interest in this stuff”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:28:00.2-01:28:05.7 opinion first hand

  1379. 1379

    Ross Coulthart considers that at the heart of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena secrecy issue is a constitutional crisis in the United States.

    “What we've got here at the heart of our issues is a constitutional crisis.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:29:45.3-01:29:49.9 opinion first hand

  1380. 1380

    Ross Coulthart considers that throughout the Watergate era and the subsequent oversight reforms the one secret that United States authorities continued to sit on and protect was the Unidentified Flying Object secret.

    “all through that time, the one secret that they sat on, that they protected, was the UFO secret, the UAP secret.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:30:45.0-01:30:52.4 opinion first hand

  1381. 1381

    Ross Coulthart believes people have been murdered, intimidated, bullied and threatened to protect the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena secret.

    “And if, and I believe it is, it's true that people have been murdered to protect these secrets, intimidated, bullied, threatened, their lives destroyed”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:30:53.4-01:31:03.2 opinion first hand

  1382. 1382

    Ross Coulthart believes people connected to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena secret have been beaten, had their jobs taken away and had their security clearances stripped without good reason.

    “people basically beaten, hurt, their jobs taken away from them, their security clearance is stripped for no good reason”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:31:05.5-01:31:12.5 opinion first hand

  1383. 1383

    Chris Ramsay considers that government thuggery of the kind alleged around the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena secret is not new and has always existed.

    “the problem is that that's kind of always existed ... This thuggery from the government isn't new.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:31:46.9-01:31:50.3 opinion first hand

  1384. 1384

    Ross Coulthart considers the assassination of John F. Kennedy integrally connected to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena subject.

    “that that is integrally connected to the UAP.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:33:19.8-01:33:23.1 opinion first hand

  1385. 1385

    The Majestic 12 (MJ-12) documents describe a government conspiracy and a cabal protecting the secrets of the Unidentified Flying Object mystery for the benefit of a certain group of people in the United States.

    “the so-called MJ-12 documents, which suggest a government conspiracy, a cabal of people that are trying to protect the secrets of the UFO mystery for the benefit of a certain group of people in the United States”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:34:19.4-01:34:33.2 testimony second hand

  1386. 1386

    Ross Coulthart considers that the concealment of Unidentified Flying Object information may have been done as noble cause corruption by a few people protecting an executive order signed in 1947 or the 1950s.

    “even if that's being done as a kind of noble cause, process corruption in the interests of the state by a few people who are doing it to protect maybe an executive order that was signed right back in 1947 or in the 1950s”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:34:35.4-01:34:50.2 opinion first hand

  1387. 1387

    Ross Coulthart considers it unacceptable that United States presidents Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter were not able to be briefed on Unidentified Flying Object information while serving as commander in chief.

    “it just doesn't wash in this day and age that you could have a situation where Clinton or Obama Ford or Carter weren't able to be briefed on that information and they were making decisions as the person nominally in charge of the defense forces of America, nominally the commander in chief.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:34:52.4-01:35:15.7 opinion first hand

  1388. 1388

    United States presidents made integral decisions about the deployment of strategic military and intelligence resources without being told about Unidentified Flying Object information.

    “And they were making integral decisions about the deployment of strategic resources of the military and the intelligence community.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:35:20.0-01:35:27.6 opinion first hand

  1389. 1389

    Lara Trump, the daughter-in-law of Donald Trump, said on the record recently that Donald Trump has something up his sleeve regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure.

    “His daughter went on the record recently. ... Daughter-in-law. Sorry, my bad. Lara. Yeah, went on the record recently saying, no, you know, he's got something up his sleeve type deal.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:36:01.9-01:36:11.3 hearsay second hand

  1390. 1390

    Ross Coulthart is overwhelmed by the number of people wanting to engage and talk with him about the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena issue.

    “I'm just overwhelmed by people wanting to engage and talk about the UAP issue.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:37:01.4-01:37:06.2 testimony first hand

  1391. 1391

    Ross Coulthart cannot take some of the wilder claims circulating in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena field seriously.

    “There are some of these wilder claims that I just can't take seriously.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:37:25.5-01:37:29.0 opinion first hand

  1392. 1392

    Ross Coulthart considers consciousness, rather than the nuts-and-bolts question of craft and aliens, to be the real mystery of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena subject.

    “the real mystery is consciousness ... i don't really care anymore about the nuts and bolts claim of craft aliens it's kind of like tangential to me”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:40:00.6-01:40:09.5 opinion first hand

  1393. 1393

    The Slide Nine briefing document was prepared for a United States undersecretary of defense and consisted of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force (UAPTF) briefing the United States Department of Defense on what had been learned about the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon.

    “we know from what's called Slide Nine, which I wrote about in my book, this briefing document that was prepared for an undersecretary of defense, which essentially was the UAP task force or ORSAP briefing the defense department about what they'd learned about the phenomenon.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:44:41.5-01:44:58.0 testimony second hand

  1394. 1394

    The Slide Nine briefing document told the United States Department of Defense that the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon has the capacity to manipulate human perception, described in the document with wording such as cognitive inputs.

    “was that whatever it is, it has the capacity to manipulate human perception. I think they use something like cognitive inputs or something like that.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:45:01.9-01:45:10.8 testimony second hand

  1395. 1395

    An anonymous source claiming to be a very senior minister of the Australian government told Ross Coulthart that while standing on steps in Sydney waiting for his ministerial car, with his press secretary and bodyguards beside him, he looked up and saw a gigantic elliptical metal disc hovering over the public square.

    “He looks up and he sees a gigantic spherical, not spherical, elliptical metal disc hovering over the square.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:46:29.8-01:46:37.9 hearsay second hand

  1396. 1396

    Ross Coulthart describes himself as just a journalist following a story, and considers it convenient that the rest of the media are not pursuing the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) subject, as very few people are currently chasing it.

    “i don't think i'm important i'm just a journalist i really truly believe all i'm doing is following an absolute ball terror of a story and frankly it suits me that the rest of the media don't chase this up because at the moment very few people are running around chasing it”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:48:44.6-01:49:00.4 opinion first hand

  1397. 1397

    Ross Coulthart considers it impossible to rule out that all reported Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) manifestations are a single phenomenon representing itself in different ways.

    “what intrigues me is you can't rule out the possibility that what this all is is the one phenomenon representing itself in different ways.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:49:05.5-01:49:15.2 opinion first hand

  1398. 1398

    Ross Coulthart is frustrated by people who criticise those who describe the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon as a threat, holding that from a military or counterintelligence standpoint something not understood is by definition a threat.

    “I get very frustrated with people who decry the people who say that there's a threat here. Because if you're a military person or an intelligence, counterintelligence person, By definition, what we're talking about here is a threat. Because we don't understand it.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:50:27.1-01:50:43.9 opinion first hand

  1399. 1399

    Ross Coulthart holds that the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon is not necessarily evil or malevolent but is capable of being so, and that its ability to manipulate human perception carries the implication that a world leader could be manipulated into feeling differently about a decision.

    “it's not that it's evil or malevolent, but it's capable of being evil or malevolent... Imagine if a world leader could be manipulated to feel differently about a decision.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:50:45.3-01:50:56.1 opinion first hand

  1400. 1400

    Chris Ramsay holds that witnesses commonly withhold the most extreme parts of their Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) accounts for fear of ridicule, giving only an abbreviated version until questioned further.

    “a lot of times what happens with witnesses, as I'm sure you know, they'll tell you a story, but they're withholding the craziest part of the story... for fear of being ridiculed. And so they'll tell you the cliff notes version”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 01:55:07.5-01:55:26.3 opinion first hand

  1401. 1401

    Ross Coulthart has interviewed multiple witnesses to sightings of craft on United States military ranges where the military was clearly aware the craft were present.

    “I've brought multiple witnesses that have been involved in sightings of craft on what are clearly US military ranges, where there's an obvious awareness by the military that these craft are there.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:02:37.1-02:02:52.7 testimony second hand

  1402. 1402

    Ross Coulthart holds that there appears to be collusion between whatever operates the craft seen over United States military ranges and the military, in that each knows about the other and is not surprised by it, and that the military's first instinct is to cover it up.

    “it does appear that there is a collusion between whatever's operating that craft and the military to the extent that they know about each other and they're not surprised by it. And their first instinct is to try and cover it up.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:02:53.8-02:03:06.9 opinion first hand

  1403. 1403

    Ross Coulthart holds that the best court cross-examination methodically opens the layers of truth so that anyone can see whether a person is telling the truth or lying, and that little of this has happened in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) subject, where there is a tendency to accept accounts credulously.

    “the best cross-examination in a court case is where, in a methodical way, the layers of truth are opened, and Blind Freddy can see whether somebody's telling the truth or lying. And that's the thing I find most fascinating about the UAP subject, is that not a lot of that has happened. There's a tendency to credulously accept”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:03:35.6-02:04:01.3 opinion first hand

  1404. 1404

    Ross Coulthart is uncomfortable that some UFO witnesses and whistleblowers are treated as heroes and celebrities at UFO conferences.

    “one of the things i'm really uncomfortable about is you go to ufo conferences and some of these people are treated like heroes”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:04:31.5-02:04:36.8 opinion first hand

  1405. 1405

    Ross Coulthart considers that people should not be credulous towards UFO witnesses and should question them.

    “i don't think we should be credulous”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:04:47.4-02:04:48.6 opinion first hand

  1406. 1406

    Ross Coulthart finds that many people in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) community who follow his work treat the subject too much as entertainment.

    “there are a lot of people in the UAP community of people who watch the stuff I do, and they treat it too much like entertainment”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:07:29.7-02:07:38.4 opinion first hand

  1407. 1407

    Ross Coulthart considers that the purpose of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) work is to ascertain objective truth rather than to entertain.

    “What this is all about is an opportunity to try and ascertain objective truth.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:07:50.0-02:07:55.0 opinion first hand

  1408. 1408

    Ross Coulthart considers Mick West useful and positive because he raises legitimate points and has on occasion been right about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) cases.

    “people like Mick West are actually very useful and positive because they keep us on our toes. I think he raises legitimate points from time to time, and I think on occasion he's been right.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:08:04.4-02:08:16.2 opinion first hand

  1409. 1409

    A man in France emailed Ross Coulthart an image of a fast-moving object in the sky which Ross Coulthart identified within about five seconds as an insect close to the lens showing classic parallax movement across the frame.

    “I had a guy from France email me yesterday, and he sent me an image of an object moving super, super fast across the sky. And within about five seconds, I could see that what it was was an insect. And he'd focused with his autofocus on the insect, classic parallax moving across front of frame, very close to the lens.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:08:17.9-02:08:37.5 testimony first hand

  1410. 1410

    A man in France who emailed Ross Coulthart a supposed UFO image had measured the object's speed at approximately 6,400 kilometres per hour.

    “And he'd measured the speed at something like 4,000 miles an hour.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:08:38.5-02:08:41.1 measurement second hand

  1411. 1411

    Chris Ramsay personally saw and documented a row of lights appear over the ocean while he was with Ryan Graves.

    “I've actually seen something out there. Um, and I documented it when I was with Ryan, we had these row of lights appear right over the ocean.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:10:15.2-02:10:22.3 observation first hand

  1412. 1412

    Ross Coulthart considers the question "do you believe in UFOs?" a ridiculous one because belief is an expression of religious faith that implies the suspension of knowledge.

    “when people say to me, do you believe in UFOs? And to me, that's a ridiculous question... Belief is an expression of religious faith. It implies the suspension of knowledge.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:11:18.3-02:11:28.0 opinion first hand

  1413. 1413

    Ross Coulthart considers a submitted UFO video near-pointless as evidence unless there are multiple independent witnesses willing to sign a statutory declaration or the object was caught on radar.

    “unless there's multiple independent witnesses who are prepared to say, I saw that object... I will sign a statutory declaration... Or, you know, it's caught on radar traveling at 2000 miles an hour.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:12:28.0-02:12:37.9 opinion first hand

  1414. 1414

    Ross Coulthart considers artificial intelligence generated fake videos a huge problem, making it next to impossible to decide whether a purported UFO video is real.

    “there's a huge problem, I think, with AI now crafting bogus videos to the point where it's next to impossible to decide whether something's real or not”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:12:54.0-02:13:05.5 opinion first hand

  1415. 1415

    The large UFO-related site Ross Coulthart has referred to is located outside the continental United States, and he has never disclosed its location.

    “I've never said any location, and I've never said anything that would convey where it is. It's outside of the continental United States.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:13:52.2-02:13:58.2 testimony first hand

  1416. 1416

    Eric Burlison has recently indicated a willingness to investigate Ross Coulthart's allegation about a large UFO-related site outside the continental United States.

    “Representative Eric Burleson has recently indicated a willingness to investigate that allegation.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:14:00.3-02:14:05.6 testimony second hand

  1417. 1417

    Ross Coulthart considers that the Donald Trump administration should make a Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) disclosure in July on the anniversary of the 1947 Roswell incident because so much information is leaking.

    “even if Trump's not thinking about making a disclosure in July for the anniversary of Roswell, he bloody well should be. Because there is so much that's leaking right now.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:18:00.5-02:18:10.1 opinion first hand

  1418. 1418

    Ross Coulthart considers that the feminine is commonly lacking in the study of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, and that there are too few women in the subject area.

    “I think one of the things that is commonly lacking in UAPology is the feminine. You know, there's too few women in this subject area. It's too blokey and too male and testosterone-filled and aggressive.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 02:26:02.5-02:26:16.2 opinion first hand

  1419. 1419

    The United States Congress has developed momentum over the Epstein files, which Ross Coulthart contrasts with its lack of momentum on sworn Unidentified Aerial Phenomena testimony.

    “Congress has developed a momentum with the Epstein files ... But the interesting thing is what's been revealed in UAP testimony under oath, deposed witnesses giving evidence to Congress.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 lines 179-183 opinion first hand

  1420. 1420

    None of Ross Coulthart's sources are reporting any evidence that a disclosure announcement or presidential speech on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena is being prepared.

    “I'm hearing no evidence from anyone. None of my sources are telling. ... I would have thought that some of my sources would have heard about it by now if there was a speech being prepared. And at the moment, I'm not hearing any suggestion that there is.”

    The DANGEROUS Truth About UFOs - Ross Coulthart | DEBRIEFED ep. 76 2026-02-20 lines 192-217 testimony first hand

  1421. 1421

    Through his work running the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program, Luis Elizondo concluded that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are real.

    “It was in this position I learned that the phenomenon is indeed real.”

    Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:20:46.9-00:20:53.0 opinion first hand

  1422. 1422

    To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science intends to explore topics including unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), extrasensory perception (ESP), and telepathy.

    “I think it's an opportunity for us to take certain topics, whether that's unidentified aerial phenomena or ESP or telepathy, and really get to the bottom of it.”

    Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:33:08.8-00:33:17.2 administrative

  1423. 1423

    Luis Elizondo was in charge of a programme dealing with highly sophisticated, unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), referring to the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP).

    “I was in charge of the advanced aerospace threat that deals with highly sophisticated, unidentified phenomena.”

    Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 2026-03-04 00:33:26.3-00:33:32.6 testimony first hand

  1424. 1424

    The helicopter mission's purpose was to investigate loud thuds heard in the mountains on the weapons test range.

    “Our mission was to investigate loud thuds heard in the mountains on the test range, which coincided with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings reported over the previous several nights.”

    USPER Narrative, Senior USIC Official 2026-05-26 char:214-400 observation first hand

  1425. 1425

    The Joint Operations Center (JOC) informed Senior U.S. Intelligence Officer (Anonymous) that radar had detected hits several miles up range from the helicopter's position, in the same area where UAP activity had been observed on prior nights.

    “I then received a message from the JOC: radar had detected hits several miles up range from our position – the same area where UAP activity had been observed on prior nights.”

    USPER Narrative, Senior USIC Official 2026-05-26 char:2272-2439 observation second hand

  1426. 1426

    Following the radar hit report, the helicopter altered course to intercept, beginning a series of close UAP encounters lasting over an hour.

    “I relayed this to the pilots, and we altered course to intercept. What followed was a series of close UAP encounters lasting over an hour.”

    USPER Narrative, Senior USIC Official 2026-05-26 char:2447-2580 observation first hand

  1427. 1427

    Ground teams reported spotting a UAP on Forward Looking Infrared (FLIR) during the late 2025 encounter, describing it as "super-hot," low to the ground, and moving east then south at high speed.

    “ground teams reported spotting a UAP on FLIR, describing it as "super-hot," low to the ground, and moving east then south at high speed.”

    USPER Narrative, Senior USIC Official 2026-05-26 char:2597-2727 observation

  1428. 1428

    The UAP observed by ground teams during the late 2025 encounter split into two objects and changed direction.

    “The object then split into two and changed direction.”

    USPER Narrative, Senior USIC Official 2026-05-26 char:2734-2777 observation

  1429. 1429

    The ground team radioed that the UAP had risen from the ground, approached to within approximately 3 metres of the helicopter, dropped below it, and then sped away.

    “The ground team suddenly radioed that the object had risen from the ground, approached within ten feet of the helicopter, dropped below us, and then sped away.”

    USPER Narrative, Senior USIC Official 2026-05-26 char:2858-3012 observation

  1430. 1430

    The loud thuds heard in the mountains on the test range coincided with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings reported over the previous several nights.

    “which coincided with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings reported over the previous several nights”

    USPER Narrative, Senior USIC Official 2026-05-26 char:298-400 observation first hand

  1431. 1431

    The pilots observed through Night Vision Goggles (NVG) that the UAP split into two, with a smaller object emerging before it accelerated out of sight.

    “The pilots observed it through NVGs and saw it split into two as a smaller object emerged before it accelerated out of sight.”

    USPER Narrative, Senior USIC Official 2026-05-26 char:3018-3161 observation

  1432. 1432

    The helicopter crew briefly pursued the UAP but broke off pursuit, unable to match its speed.

    “We briefly pursued but broke off, unable to match its speed.”

    USPER Narrative, Senior USIC Official 2026-05-26 char:3168-3222 observation first hand

  1433. 1433

    The Joint Operations Center (JOC) informed the helicopter crew that several fighter jets had launched on a training mission in their operating area and requested their assistance in identifying the UAP.

    “the JOC informed us that several fighter jets had launched on a training mission in our operating area and requested their assistance in identifying the UAP.”

    USPER Narrative, Senior USIC Official 2026-05-26 char:3243-3396 observation second hand

  1434. 1434

    The helicopter crew aimed to search remote mountain areas for possible debris or objects that might explain the orb-like UAP sightings on the test range.

    “We aimed to search remote mountain areas for possible debris or objects that might explain the orb-like sightings.”

    USPER Narrative, Senior USIC Official 2026-05-26 char:408-512 observation first hand

  1435. 1435

    Billy Meier is claimed to have taken approximately 1,200 UFO photographs that have been authenticated.

    “if this man has indeed taken 1,200 or so UFO photos... And they've been authenticated.”

    Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:00:47.9-00:01:00.7 testimony

  1436. 1436

    The UFOs being seen around the world are not human-made craft, because the craft Billy Meier's extraterrestrial contacts fly are not UFOs and the contacts know what the craft are and who flies them.

    “The UFOs that are being seen around the world, this is not ours because ours are not UFOs. We know what the craft are and we know who's flying them.”

    Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 00:01:19.8-00:01:30.3 testimony

  1437. 1437

    Ed Dames went out with the Prince of Liechtenstein and Hal Puthoff to see UFOs, remote viewing where a UFO would be.

    “when he was out there with the uh it was the prince of lichtenstein and like all sorts and ... the Hal Puthoff and And they went out to see UFOs and, you know, they would make, they would remote view where the UFO would be.”

    Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:25:02.2-02:25:32.4 testimony

  1438. 1438

    People in other countries also took photographs of the craft as part of the agenda to spread the Billy Meier case worldwide.

    “people in other countries who had taken photographs of these craft so okay you're going to have the photos out there”

    Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:27:32.4-02:27:54.5 opinion

  1439. 1439

    Michael Horn does not believe in Billy Meier or UFOs but instead has evidence from his own experience, holding that when you know something you do not have to believe in it.

    “i've been asked if i believe in Billy Meier believe in ufos and i've said no When you know something, you don't have to believe in it. ... rather than belief, I have the evidence in my experience”

    Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92 2026-06-12 02:42:05.3-02:42:29.2 opinion first hand

  1440. 1440

    Jonathan Caplan has researched Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) for over 50 years.

    “He has researched UAPs for over 50 years”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 00:01:44.8-00:01:48.1 administrative first hand

  1441. 1441

    Ross Coulthart spoke to two former living Australian prime ministers who swore they had never been briefed on anything relating to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “i've spoken to two former living australian prime ministers and they swear black and blue that they've never been read into any anything relating to uaps”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 00:34:21.8-00:34:32.4 testimony first hand

  1442. 1442

    A senior Australian intelligence figure hinted darkly to Ross Coulthart that he knows something about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) but cannot talk about it.

    “one very senior intelligence mandarin here in australia and he's hinted very darkly that he does know something but he can't talk about it”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 00:34:38.4-00:34:48.3 hearsay second hand

  1443. 1443

    The 1948 Mantell UFO incident was cited at the Blair House meeting of 14 July 1949 because too many planes were being lost in close engagements with Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) at the time, and the advice was to back off and not be threatening in close approaches.

    “Yes, and that case was cited at the Blair House meeting because too many planes were being lost in close engagements with UAPs at the time, and the advice was that they should back off and not be threatening in too many close approaches.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 00:37:17.8-00:37:39.7 hearsay second hand

  1444. 1444

    The document concerning the Advanced Contact Group meeting at Holloman Air Force Base implies there was some kind of contact with an Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and its occupants, an alien spacecraft.

    “The inference there is that there was some kind of contact with a UAP and its occupants, an alien spacecraft.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 00:47:03.8-00:47:11.8 administrative second hand

  1445. 1445

    Jonathan Caplan believes John F. Kennedy was interfering in the UFO situation because he was concerned that after the Bay of Pigs Invasion a UFO might be mistaken by the Russians, or vice versa, as an incoming ballistic missile, and he did not want that nuclear threat to exist.

    “there is other evidence that Kennedy was interfering in the UFO situation because he was very concerned that after the Bay of Pigs that an a UFO might be mistaken by the Russians or vice versa as an incoming ballistic missile and he did not want that nuclear threat to exist”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 00:57:06.8-00:57:34.8 opinion first hand

  1446. 1446

    John F. Kennedy wanted greater cooperation and disclosure between the United States and Russia on the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon.

    “he wanted there to be greater cooperation greater disclosure between America and Russia on the UAP phenomenon”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 00:57:35.1-00:57:40.9 opinion first hand

  1447. 1447

    Jonathan Caplan considers that John F. Kennedy's wish for greater cooperation over UAP issues would not have been welcome to the Central Intelligence Agency, which had bent over backwards to denigrate the subject and keep it under wraps.

    “Kennedy's wish that there should be greater cooperation over the serious UAP issues is something which would not have been welcome to the CIA who'd been bent over backwards to denigrate this subject and to keep it under wraps.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 00:58:57.9-00:59:18.4 opinion first hand

  1448. 1448

    Jonathan Caplan believes there is a strong argument that the assassination of John F. Kennedy was linked to the UFO subject.

    “I think there's a very strong argument that that is the case. Yes, I do believe that.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 01:03:56.7-01:04:00.8 opinion first hand

  1449. 1449

    Jonathan Caplan suspects the source of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon is multi-source, and that a part of it must be extraterrestrial because life elsewhere in the universe is a mathematical certainty.

    “I suspect it's multi-source and I suspect a part of it must be extraterrestrial because life elsewhere in the universe is a mathematical certainty.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 01:22:10.2-01:22:18.9 opinion first hand

  1450. 1450

    The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon has become much more complex since Jonathan Caplan became involved in the 1970s.

    “this phenomenon has become much more complex since I became involved in the 1970s.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 01:24:03.5-01:24:07.4 opinion first hand

  1451. 1451

    Jonathan Caplan considers there to be a dark paranormal side to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon, though he remains unclear whether it is one phenomenon or more than one.

    “whether we're talking about one phenomenon or more than one phenomena, I'm still not clear, but there's certainly a dark paranormal side to this.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 01:24:13.4-01:24:21.5 opinion first hand

  1452. 1452

    The United States Congress had difficulty defining what non-human intelligence meant in a recent act aimed at disclosure of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) documents, and the act got nowhere.

    “I think Congress had a problem when they were trying to define in the recent act, which got nowhere for the disclosure of UAP documents, what non-human intelligence meant.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 01:25:33.1-01:25:44.5 opinion first hand

  1453. 1453

    The British Condign Report examined plasma as an explanation for the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) mystery.

    “one of the great reports into UAPs, interestingly enough, and it's often overlooked, was the Condign Report, the British Condign Report. And it looked at plasma as an explanation for the UAP mystery.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 01:27:13.5-01:27:27.3 administrative second hand

  1454. 1454

    David Grush talked about agreements he was able to discuss under Defense Office of Prepublication and Security Review (DOPSR) clearance, potentially involving foreign adversary powers or non-human intelligence regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “David Grusch, for example, talked about agreements that he was able to talk about in his DOPSA. the idea that there are agreements potentially either with foreign adversary powers about UAPs or perhaps even with NHI.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 01:29:12.6-01:29:24.7 testimony second hand

  1455. 1455

    Jonathan Caplan does not believe humanity is ready for disclosure of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) information because the answers simply are not there.

    “Do you think we're ready, John? For disclosure? No, I don't, because I think the answers simply aren't there.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 01:29:34.9-01:29:43.8 opinion first hand

  1456. 1456

    Jonathan Caplan considers that disclosing that the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon is real, and that humanity is not in control of its airspace or oceans, would be so destabilising that it is not really feasible.

    “I think to disclose that the phenomenon is real, to disclose that we're not in control of our airspace or of our oceans is something which would be so destabilising that it's not really feasible.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 01:29:46.4-01:30:02.7 opinion first hand

  1457. 1457

    Jonathan Caplan considers a key point of his book to be enabling an informed public debate about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “one of the points of the book is to have an informed debate.”

    Watergate, the JFK assassination and a UFO secret at the center of it all | Reality Check 2026-06-18 01:30:46.1-01:30:49.0 opinion first hand

  1458. 1458

    A forum on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) was held in the Kennedy Caucus Room of the United States Senate.

    “Kennedy caucus room where there have been many historic events that took place. So it was an amazing event.”

    Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:01:50.2-00:01:59.2 administrative first hand

  1459. 1459

    The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) forum in the Kennedy Caucus Room of the United States Senate took place in 2026-06.

    “It's hard to imagine that here we are today in June of 2026, and that forum took place.”

    Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:02:15.7-00:02:19.7 administrative

  1460. 1460

    Avi Loeb considers that objects being investigated as Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are either human-made or non-human-made, with no other possibilities.

    “There are two possibilities. Either if these are technological objects, either they are human-made or non-human-made. These are the two possibilities.”

    Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:02:53.4-00:03:02.3 opinion first hand

  1461. 1461

    Avi Loeb considers that if the objects observed as Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) are human-made, this represents a serious breach of national security because they are not identified by the Pentagon or the intelligence agencies yet hover over strategic assets.

    “if they are human-made, then we have a serious breach of national security because these are objects that are not identified by the Pentagon or the intelligence agencies, yet they hover over strategic assets.”

    Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:03:03.2-00:03:14.6 opinion first hand

  1462. 1462

    Avi Loeb considers that if even one of the observed objects classified as Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) is not human-made, it would be the biggest discovery in the history of science.

    “there is, of course, the possibility that maybe one out of all of these objects is enough to have one that is not human-made, in which case it will be the biggest discovery ever made in the history of science.”

    Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:03:34.3-00:03:46.6 opinion first hand

  1463. 1463

    Avi Loeb, based on conversations with people across branches of government, senses that government officials are genuinely baffled and do not understand what UAP are.

    “And I feel from speaking to them that they're really baffled, that they don't understand what these things are.”

    Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:27:28.3-00:27:33.8 opinion first hand

  1464. 1464

    Avi Loeb recommends examining fresh UAP data collected by the US government and military using improved sensors over the past decade.

    “So there should be also fresh data that was collected over the past decade since those programs where the evidence is even clearer. So I would recommend looking at that as well.”

    Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:30:22.4-00:30:31.8 opinion first hand

  1465. 1465

    Avi Loeb believes efforts should focus on getting to the bottom of what UAP are, rather than obsessing over the past or blaming bureaucrats for being gatekeepers.

    “my... reading from that history is that we should focus on getting to the bottom of what these things are rather than obsessing with the past and trying to blame bureaucrats for being gatekeepers.”

    Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:40:29.1-00:40:43.0 opinion first hand

  1466. 1466

    Edward Teller coordinated a conference with distinguished scientists discussing UAP in the 1950s.

    “there was a conference that Edward Teller coordinated with the most distinguished scientists discussing UAP back in 1950s.”

    Episode 73: Science vs. Secrecy 2026-06-30 00:56:43.3-00:56:52.6 testimony first hand

  1467. 1467

    Gordon Cooper believes a large number of qualified, or exceptionally well-qualified, people have seen unidentified flying objects (UFOs) with no logical explanation.

    “Well, I feel that there have been a large number of fairly well qualified, or exceptionally well qualified I should say, people who have seen objects that have not had any really logical explanation other than this”

    NASA-UAP-D023, Interview Excerpt with Astronaut Gordon Cooper, 1962 2026-07-11 00:00:17.5-00:00:32.8 opinion first hand

  1468. 1468

    Gordon Cooper considers it possible that each unidentified flying object (UFO) sighting does in fact have an explanation.

    “I think that maybe in fact each and every one of them does have an explanation.”

    NASA-UAP-D023, Interview Excerpt with Astronaut Gordon Cooper, 1962 2026-07-11 00:00:34.4-00:00:39.1 opinion first hand

  1469. 1469

    Gordon Cooper considers it not unfeasible that some unidentified flying object (UFO) sightings might involve human life from other planets, if such planets exist.

    “And if this is the case, then it's not too unfeasible to think that perhaps some of these objects might have been something of this type.”

    NASA-UAP-D023, Interview Excerpt with Astronaut Gordon Cooper, 1962 2026-07-11 00:01:01.9-00:01:09.6 opinion first hand

  1470. 1470

    Gordon Cooper considers Project Mercury flights to reach only a low order of distance into space, on the order of a hundred miles, not far enough to make observations relevant to unidentified flying objects (UFOs).

    “You don't think that the comparatively short step out into space that the Mercury flight will take you on is far enough out to make any observations in this area? / No, I think we're still at a fairly low order of getting out into space when you regard, when you speak of space and being millions of miles involved, and we're only getting out a hundred miles or so.”

    NASA-UAP-D023, Interview Excerpt with Astronaut Gordon Cooper, 1962 2026-07-11 00:01:11.0-00:01:38.6 opinion first hand

  1471. 1471

    During the December 2025 incursion over a sensitive military facility in the southwestern United States, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) was conducting an unidentified aerial phenomena-luring operation.

    “during the December 2025 incursion in the southwestern United States over a sensitive military facility, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence was conducting a UAP-luring operation.”

    FBI Photos Show Orbs Beneath Helicopter During Alleged ODNI UAP “Luring Operation” — Liberation Times | Reimagining Old News 2026-07-12 char:1084-1269 testimony first hand

  1472. 1472

    The December 2025 incident was described as incontrovertible proof that a real unidentified aerial phenomena phenomenon exists.

    “This event was described as incontrovertible proof that there is a real phenomenon here”

    FBI Photos Show Orbs Beneath Helicopter During Alleged ODNI UAP “Luring Operation” — Liberation Times | Reimagining Old News 2026-07-12 char:1720-1803 testimony first hand

  1473. 1473

    The All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) know that unidentified aerial phenomena are a real phenomenon.

    “it suggests not only that AARO—the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office—and ODNI know this is a real phenomenon”

    FBI Photos Show Orbs Beneath Helicopter During Alleged ODNI UAP “Luring Operation” — Liberation Times | Reimagining Old News 2026-07-12 char:2034-2135 opinion first hand

  1474. 1474

    The Disclosure Foundation is an advocacy group focused on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “The Disclosure Foundation is an advocacy group focused on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena, or UAP.”

    FBI Photos Show Orbs Beneath Helicopter During Alleged ODNI UAP “Luring Operation” — Liberation Times | Reimagining Old News 2026-07-12 char:534-629 administrative

  1475. 1475

    Jason Samosa considers the extraterrestrial hypothesis inadequate to the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) data, because craft have landed repeatedly and appear in many different variations.

    “why have they continued to land over and over again? And why are there so many different variations of them? So the extraterrestrial hypothesis doesn't do justice to the data.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:05:07.9-00:05:16.2 opinion first hand

  1476. 1476

    Jacques Vallee's approach to Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) cases examines the cultural impact of UFOs over time on human belief systems, and infers from that impact the motivations of the beings operating the phenomenon.

    “what he does is he looks at the cultural impact of UFOs over time. And what impact does that have on human belief systems? And therefore, what can we assume the motivations might be of the beings that operate this thing?”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:06:15.9-00:06:28.9 opinion second hand

  1477. 1477

    Jason Samosa considers the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) phenomenon to be, on balance, very deceptive, so taking every encounter with an apparent extraterrestrial being at face value is too simplistic.

    “every single experience should be taken at face value is maybe too simplistic an approach because on balance, it appears to be very deceptive.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:09:31.9-00:09:39.9 opinion first hand

  1478. 1478

    In Messengers of Deception, Jacques Vallee warns that a mass appearance of UFOs worldwide could cause cults to blossom while trust in government collapses, changing the global status quo overnight.

    “He talks about how if suddenly there was a mass appearance of UFOs in the world... those cults could suddenly blossom whilst trust in the government collapses. And that's one of the fears that he's got.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:11:07.8-00:11:20.3 opinion third hand

  1479. 1479

    There is a demonstrable correlation between occult activity and the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) phenomenon, as shown in the work of Jacques Vallee and Peter Levenda.

    “And there is a correlation between occult activity and the phenomenon that's demonstrable. And, you know, Vallee has demonstrated that and Peter Levenda, there are so many examples of this.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:14:02.9-00:14:13.0 opinion second hand

  1480. 1480

    The Collins Elite traces back to the period immediately after the 1947 Roswell crash, when investigators were trying to understand the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) phenomenon.

    “It was founded in… Well, it traces back to right after the Roswell crash. They're trying to understand what this phenomenon is.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:16:38.8-00:16:47.0 testimony second hand

  1481. 1481

    The Collins Elite material reveals that, alongside the hypotheses listed by Edward J. Ruppelt, there was also a conversation about whether the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) experience could be overlaid with the occult.

    “What this Collins Elite thing reveals is there was also a conversation about whether it could be overlaid with the occult, what was being experienced.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:17:04.4-00:17:11.6 testimony second hand

  1482. 1482

    About 12 people were employed full time on the 1952 Collins Elite programme investigating the correlation between UFOs and the occult.

    “basically about 12 people were employed to look into this full time.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:17:29.2-00:17:31.8 hearsay third hand

  1483. 1483

    Jason Samosa doubts that Alonzo McDonald's consulting background alone would explain an invitation into a highly sensitive programme exploring the relationship between UFOs and the occult.

    “So I'm like, Alonzo McDonald isn't going to be invited into a very, very sensitive program exploring the relationship between UFOs and the occult. Could be completely wrong, but it just doesn't seem like that would be the case.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:18:18.3-00:18:29.3 opinion first hand

  1484. 1484

    According to Nick Redfern, James Baker was involved in a Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) briefing given to Ronald Reagan.

    “And James Baker is also a member of the family, and he's involved in a UFO briefing, according to Nick Redfern. So he's invited into a briefing that Reagan gets”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:19:22.9-00:19:34.2 hearsay second hand

  1485. 1485

    Alonzo McDonald and James Baker both either sat in on, or had direct information about, the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) topic within the White House.

    “Alonzo McDonald, James Baker, both sat in or had, you know, direct information about the UFO topic within the context of the White House.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:19:46.1-00:19:53.7 testimony first hand

  1486. 1486

    Jason Samosa considers that when someone in government tries to shut down Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) investigation on the grounds that the phenomenon is demonic, the party responsible may be The Family (The Fellowship) rather than the 1952 programme known as the Collins Elite, as the two sometimes travel under the same name.

    “don't just assume that it's that 1952 program, which has become known as the Collins elite. It may well be that it's the family, which also sometimes I think fly under the same moniker.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:20:09.8-00:20:19.3 opinion first hand

  1487. 1487

    Shawn Ryan and Tucker Carlson describe the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) phenomenon as spiritual and demonic.

    “you'll hear like, um, you know, Shawn Ryan and Tucker Carlson and like, we think it's spiritual. We think it's demonic.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:20:53.1-00:20:57.9 hearsay second hand

  1488. 1488

    Jesse Michels equally challenges people who insist angels and demons have nothing to do with the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) conversation, considering that framework an important possible overlay.

    “i would have a kind of equal and opposite challenge to the people who say that angels and demons definitely have nothing to do with the conversation”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:21:24.7-00:21:32.3 opinion first hand

  1489. 1489

    Some traditional attributes of angels and demons appear to Jesse Michels to match attributes of the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) phenomenon.

    “Like there are all these different like attributes of them. And some of the attributes seem to match up with some of these things.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:22:16.0-00:22:22.1 opinion first hand

  1490. 1490

    Jacques Vallee often talks about fallen angels in connection with the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) phenomenon.

    “Um, and he often talks about fallen angels himself.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:22:33.2-00:22:35.6 hearsay second hand

  1491. 1491

    Jason Samosa holds that once the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) phenomenon is accepted as real, the next question is how long it has been going on, and that human mythology across all religions contains references to these beings.

    “The moment you realize this phenomenon's real, the next question is how long has it been going on? And then it turns out our entire history, all our mythology is mentioning references to these beings.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:22:57.8-00:23:05.9 opinion first hand

  1492. 1492

    Jason Samosa considers the terms angel and demon to be Judeo-Christian terminology that it may be helpful to rename when discussing the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) phenomenon.

    “And I think one of the issues we have is terminology, unfortunately, angels, demons... And it may well be helpful for us to consider whether we try and rename those.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:23:32.3-00:23:43.0 opinion first hand

  1493. 1493

    The word angel derives from a term meaning messenger, and the function of a messenger going out to human beings with a message matches what the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) phenomenon tends to represent.

    “You could even just go back to angel evangelion, which is just messenger. And that function of a messenger going out from this place to human beings with a message is exactly what these phenomenon tend to try and represent anyway.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:24:23.4-00:24:37.2 opinion first hand

  1494. 1494

    Jason Samosa holds that people's ability to think clearly about the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) phenomenon switches off the moment Christian terminology is used.

    “The challenge we have is the moment you start to use those Christian terms again, people's ability to think clearly just switches off.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:24:40.8-00:24:46.5 opinion first hand

  1495. 1495

    Jason Samosa expects a wave of people to be forced to engage with the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject without the answers or clarity they need, and is concerned that old religious frameworks will trap how it is viewed.

    “There's a wave coming of people having to engage with this... they don't have the answers or clarity they need. We do have these old religious frameworks. And what if we end up using those and kind of trapping ourselves in a framework about how we view it”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:30:34.9-00:30:48.4 opinion first hand

  1496. 1496

    Jesse Michels considers the social contagion forming around the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject to be itself grounds for scepticism.

    “if you have this almost like social contagion around the thing, you almost have to be skeptical of that as well.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:30:55.8-00:31:01.7 opinion first hand

  1497. 1497

    Jesse Michels regards UFO disclosure as a personal process an individual goes through rather than a line in the sand, and views expecting a set of released government documents to provide meaning as a ceding of one's own spiritual authority.

    “realize that, quote unquote, disclosure is just a personal process. It's just something that an individual goes through themselves. It's not some line in the sand. It's actually some sort of seeding of one's own spiritual authority to some other group”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:31:03.2-00:31:16.5 opinion first hand

  1498. 1498

    Jesse Michels wants Donald Trump to release Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) documents because the second-order effects would move the Overton window, let young people ask these questions, and allow the subject to be taught in academic settings.

    “it'll move The Overton Window and, you know, you'll have young people able to ask these questions. You know, these things can be taught in academic settings. All of those things would be amazing second order effects of Trump releasing documents.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:31:29.2-00:31:40.9 opinion first hand

  1499. 1499

    Jesse Michels considers it insane to expect UFO disclosure to give someone meaning in their life.

    “But the idea that that's somehow going to like give, you know, somebody meaning in their life is insane.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:31:42.0-00:31:47.5 opinion first hand

  1500. 1500

    Jason Samosa identifies a fixation in the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) community on the information not held and the injustice of not having received it, producing a conviction that releasing that information would solve everything.

    “There's this fixation on the information we don't have and the injustice that we haven't received it. So we become convinced that as long as I can get that information out, everything's going to be solved.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:31:53.6-00:32:01.6 opinion first hand

  1501. 1501

    Jesse Michels considers that government officials who make offhand remarks about a hybrid breeding programme or a base sighting are acting from cynical or opportunistic motivation and do not know anything about the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject.

    “some government official who's clearly doesn't even think about UFOs will make some offhand remark about some, you know, a hybrid breeding program or like a certain base... that person doesn't know anything. They're doing the thing because of their own cynical, you know, motivation.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:32:05.4-00:32:21.8 opinion first hand

  1502. 1502

    Jason Samosa considers that even full UFO disclosure would leave people deeply unsatisfied with the information received, because no party holds the full picture.

    “So it might well be that even if we got full disclosure, we're going to be deeply unsatisfied with the information that we receive.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:33:09.0-00:33:15.8 opinion first hand

  1503. 1503

    Jesse Michels holds that there is nothing to disclose because the government may have an asymmetric data set but has no monopoly on how the world works or on metaphysics.

    “There's nothing to disclose because the government, they might have an asymmetric data set, but they don't have some, you know, monopoly on, you know, how the world works. That's just, or metaphysics or something.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:33:19.7-00:33:31.8 opinion first hand

  1504. 1504

    Tom DeLonge became deeply interested in the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject from a very young age, with video footage of him discussing it possibly predating the formation of Blink-182.

    “DeLonge, I think had become deeply interested in this from a very young age. There's, there's video footage of him talking about this, you're kind of wondering if he's even started Blink-182 at this point.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:34:29.4-00:34:38.7 testimony first hand

  1505. 1505

    In 2013 Tom DeLonge began building a project to integrate music and media in order to communicate larger ideas about the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject.

    “And at some point in 2013, he started to build this kind of project about how he would integrate music, media, and try and use it to communicate bigger stuff.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:34:41.4-00:34:50.6 testimony first hand

  1506. 1506

    Jason Samosa holds that many people working in government and aerospace on the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject are ordinary people rather than fundamentally evil, and that public perception of them is falling because they cannot communicate clearly about their work.

    “There are lots of people who are moms and dads who find themselves working for these aerospace companies who may be dealing with really complicated stuff... meanwhile, people's perception of them is plummeting because they're unable to communicate clearly about what's going on.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:36:26.1-00:36:40.9 opinion first hand

  1507. 1507

    Tom DeLonge approached his aerospace and government contacts by asking how they could help communicate concepts around the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject without touching classified data.

    “So he went in there and basically said, look, how can we help communicate things in a way that doesn't touch on classified data, helps people understand some of the big concepts around this stuff.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:36:43.6-00:36:53.2 testimony first hand

  1508. 1508

    Tom DeLonge said on podcasts that he had met the people managing the UFO subject and that they had begun speaking to him.

    “He was saying, I have met the people who are managing the UFO thing. They've started to speak to me, the front man from Blink-182, and they're telling me all of these things.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:38:44.4-00:38:53.8 hearsay second hand

  1509. 1509

    John Podesta and Hillary Clinton talked a great deal about UFOs around the 2016 United States presidential election.

    “Anyway, fast forward to the 2016 elections. If you look back at it now, and I've documented this as thoroughly as I can, Podesta and Clinton were talking a lot about UFOs.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:39:15.9-00:39:26.8 testimony first hand

  1510. 1510

    Dennis Kucinich, a former Democratic candidate for the presidency, was laughed off the debate stage and saw his candidacy collapse once his name became associated with UFOs, in an election Jason Samosa places around 2010.

    “There's a guy called Dennis Kucinich who was in a 2010 election, I think. The moment his name became associated with UFOs, this was a former Democratic candidate for the presidency. In a debate stage, he was pretty much laughed off stage and his candidacy plummeted.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:39:34.1-00:39:47.4 testimony first hand

  1511. 1511

    Associating oneself publicly with the UFO topic had been demonstrated to be damaging within Democratic political circles.

    “So it had been proven in democratic circles, associating yourself with the UFO topic is, uh, is not a good thing.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:39:48.5-00:39:55.1 opinion first hand

  1512. 1512

    In the leaked John Podesta emails, dated to about mid-2015, a staffer suggested to John Podesta that a particular individual be considered for "the UFO project", indicating a UFO project already existed.

    “And at one point, there's an individual mentioned, and one of the staffers said, John, maybe we should consider this individual for the UFO project. And you're like, okay, so obviously this staffer and all the other people on the email, including Podesta, and this is mid-2015, I think, already have a UFO project?”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:40:42.2-00:41:01.2 testimony second hand

  1513. 1513

    Jacques Vallee holds significant scepticism about what the Tom DeLonge disclosure effort was trying to achieve.

    “someone who has huge questions about that whole thing, by the way. He's a big skepticism about what they were trying to achieve.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:41:15.6-00:41:20.5 opinion second hand

  1514. 1514

    Jesse Michels has very little doubt about Tom DeLonge's sincerity, intelligence and long-standing organic interest in the UFO topic.

    “i have personally very little doubt of uh Tom deLonge's sincerity and his intelligence and actually a long interest and his standing interest and organically in the topic”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:42:13.9-00:42:25.1 opinion first hand

  1515. 1515

    Jesse Michels considers there to have been a confluence between Tom DeLonge's organic interest in UFOs and people in government wanting to do something on the subject.

    “But it also seems like there was a confluence between that organic interest on his part and then like people in the government wanting to do something on UFOs.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:42:30.6-00:42:40.4 opinion first hand

  1516. 1516

    Jacques Vallee's most recent journals document rumours coming out of the White House early in 2013 that a programme called "confirmation, not disclosure" was being planned.

    “He documents early in 2013, rumors coming out of the White House. And these rumors are essentially saying they're planning to do something called confirmation, not disclosure.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:43:21.9-00:43:31.8 testimony second hand

  1517. 1517

    The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) is probably the largest study of UFO data ever conducted.

    “It's probably the biggest study of UFO data ever.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:44:14.0-00:44:17.0 opinion first hand

  1518. 1518

    Jacques Vallee is generally quite sceptical about the modern UFO disclosure movement.

    “Vallee, who is, I think generally quite skeptical about, you know, the modern disclosure movement”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:44:35.3-00:44:40.4 opinion first hand

  1519. 1519

    Tom DeLonge was one of the biggest celebrities Coast to Coast AM had hosted who talked about working towards UFO disclosure.

    “And he's one of the biggest celebrities they'd had on there who was talking about doing things for disclosure.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:45:19.4-00:45:22.7 opinion first hand

  1520. 1520

    Jason Samosa considers it plausible that Tom DeLonge was told around 2013, possibly via George Knapp, that it was a good time for his disclosure project.

    “He may have heard like, now's a pretty good time for the project you're doing, like 2013 kind of time.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:45:34.2-00:45:39.2 opinion first hand

  1521. 1521

    Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush all appear to have received briefings on the UFO subject, according to Jason Samosa's research.

    “Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush, all seem to have received briefings.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:46:04.1-00:46:07.3 opinion first hand

  1522. 1522

    Bill Clinton did not receive UFO briefings and had to fight for information, using all his resources without obtaining what he wanted, in Jason Samosa's assessment.

    “The moment you get to Clinton, I think it's pretty demonstrable he didn't. And he had to fight to try and get information. And he used all of his resources and still couldn't get what he wanted.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:46:08.1-00:46:17.1 opinion first hand

  1523. 1523

    Ronald Pandolfi advised Bill Clinton that he should be briefed by Bruce Maccabee, a longtime civilian UFO researcher who had written a book about UFOs and the FBI.

    “Ron Pandolfi told Clinton he should get briefed by a guy named Bruce Maccabee who had written about a book about UFOs and the FBI was a longtime civilian researcher.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:47:46.2-00:47:56.5 testimony first hand

  1524. 1524

    Laurance Rockefeller was very close with the Clintons and constantly tried to interest them in UFO disclosure.

    “And Laurance Rockefeller, uh, is very close with the Clintons and trying to get them to do disclosure, get them more interested constantly.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:48:25.7-00:48:33.4 testimony first hand

  1525. 1525

    There is evidence that Hillary Clinton was trying to open doors on the UFO subject during Bill Clinton's administration, in Jason Samosa's assessment.

    “she was interested early, I think. And there's evidence during the original Clinton administration she might have been trying to open doors as well.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:48:55.6-00:49:02.0 opinion first hand

  1526. 1526

    Bill Clinton's science advisor sought a UFO briefing, and the request went to the CIA's Weird Desk, the part of the agency holding UFO information.

    “Clinton's science advisor is trying to get a briefing. And what happens is that goes to the place in the CIA where there is UFO information. It's called the Weird Desk.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:49:06.2-00:49:13.7 testimony first hand

  1527. 1527

    Bill Clinton's attempt to obtain UFO information was shut down by Ronald Pandolfi, in Jason Samosa's account.

    “You've got Clinton, comes in, he's just this guy, and he wants the information and it's shut down by Dr. Pandolfi”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:50:38.2-00:50:45.7 opinion first hand

  1528. 1528

    On James Corden's programme, Barack Obama said there are things in the sky that cannot be identified and are not understood.

    “I think on James Corden, he goes, there are things in our sky that, you know, we can identify and we don't know what they are.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:51:36.5-00:51:42.2 hearsay second hand

  1529. 1529

    Barack Obama's UFO remarks were a deliberately phrased and staged litmus test of public reaction, conducted with a friendly left-wing interviewer in a rapid-fire question format, in Jesse Michels's view.

    “it was so clearly this litmus test. It was like this, like, let's see how the public reacts. ... he phrased it the way he did deliberately to begin with. The whole thing was staged with this very friendly, you know, very left wing interviewer”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:52:30.2-00:52:39.0 opinion first hand

  1530. 1530

    Barack Obama walked back his UFO comments afterwards, saying he knew nothing the public did not know and framing the matter in terms of the Fermi paradox and the number of solar systems.

    “Because he then walked it back and was like, you know, really? You know, I don't know anything you don't know. You know, I just think that it was like, you know, some Fermi paradox thing, given the amount of, you know, solar systems, you know, there's the likelihood or whatever.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:52:36.0-00:52:49.9 hearsay second hand

  1531. 1531

    John Brennan and James Clapper appear in a documentary film and tacitly endorse the idea that UFOs are real.

    “Brennan and his, uh, director of national intelligence, James Clapper are showing up in a movie and they are tacitly endorsing the idea that not only have we, you know, are UFOs real”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:53:16.7-00:53:27.5 testimony first hand

  1532. 1532

    James Clapper personally talked about having helped set up UFO tracking programmes at Area 51.

    “we've had tracking programs at area 51, which James Clapper personally talked about helped set up”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:53:28.5-00:53:33.9 hearsay second hand

  1533. 1533

    The UFO programmes discussed openly consist of those in the 2017 New York Times article on the Pentagon UFO program, what Barack Obama discussed and investigated, and what Harry Reid set up from 2007 to 2012.

    “the things that are talked about openly at this point are in that 2017 New York Times article. They're what Obama was, you know, talking about and investigating. It's what Harry Reid set up from 2007 to 2012.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:54:41.7-00:54:54.7 testimony first hand

  1534. 1534

    Under the Kona Blue proposal, assets were to be transferred from Lockheed Martin, which held UFO material, to Bigelow Aerospace.

    “Kona Blue, and this idea that we were transferring assets between Lockheed Martin, who had UFO material to Bigelow aerospace”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 00:55:12.6-00:55:18.8 testimony first hand

  1535. 1535

    Jason Samosa has no base case for what is going on inside the government regarding UFOs, and considers it a total mystery made impossible to navigate by disinformation.

    “oh my god no i have no idea yeah no i mean it's a total mystery what's really going on there's so much disinformation as well which makes it impossible to navigate all of this”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:00:03.5-01:00:11.6 opinion first hand

  1536. 1536

    Jason Samosa is convinced there is something to the UFO phenomenon, but holds very few points of high confidence about it.

    “So I'm definitely convinced there's something there, definitely. But in terms of things I could be high confidence about, they're very limited.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:00:38.4-01:00:46.4 opinion first hand

  1537. 1537

    Jim Lacatski writes about the UFO subject as a platonic puzzle, more a mystical object than something physicists would be put against.

    “And he writes about it like it's some platonic puzzle. Like it's more of like a mystical object than it is something you'd ever even put throw physicists against.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:02:04.4-01:02:14.5 opinion first hand

  1538. 1538

    Jacques Vallee holds that the UFO is not designed to carry beings from place to place but to interface with the human mind and work with the imagery held there.

    “which is another thing that Vallee talks about actually, is this idea that the UFO isn't designed to carry beings from place A to place B, but it's designed to interface with our mind and to take the imagery we have in here”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:05:15.7-01:05:27.9 opinion second hand

  1539. 1539

    Skywatcher is a modern version of programmes that attempt to summon UFOs, and such summoning work has been carried out for some time within special access programmes.

    “you have these summoning programs of UFOs, like Skywatcher is this kind of modern version of this or whatever. But it seems like we've been doing this kind of in, you know, special access programs for a while.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:06:32.5-01:06:42.8 opinion first hand

  1540. 1540

    Audio exists of Hermann Oberth speaking about UFOs, in which he said that German rocketry was aided and had help.

    “And there's even audio of him talking about UFOs. And he said they were aided and had help.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:11:31.8-01:11:36.8 testimony third hand

  1541. 1541

    Takano Joseon, a man in Japan, met Hermann Oberth and discussed UFOs openly with him.

    “And I was just in Japan, actually. And there's a guy named Takano Joseon. And he met Hermann Oberth and they discussed UFOs openly.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:11:37.4-01:11:45.6 testimony second hand

  1542. 1542

    Hermann Oberth respected the beings riding in UFOs.

    “But Dr. Oberth truly respected the beings actually riding in UFOs.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:11:56.0-01:12:01.1 testimony second hand

  1543. 1543

    In a 1952 interview with a French newspaper, Richard Miethe said that UFOs seen in the sky are probably the craft he designed and built, via the Skoda Works under Hans Kammler.

    “Mita in 52 gives this interview to this French paper. And he says, if you see UFOs in the sky, they're probably the ones that I designed and built by, you know, the Habermal project and, you know, um, uh, Skoda works under Hans Kammler.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:13:04.2-01:13:20.4 testimony third hand

  1544. 1544

    In an apocryphal account, John Warner IV recounted that over a third martini Paul Mellon told him he and Allen Dulles had been on a technology retrieval operation in Nazi Germany around 1944 or 1945, standing atop a huge saucer-like UFO in Czechoslovakia.

    “I think you even have an apocryphal story where Paul Mellon ... And he talks about, he said he's on his third martini with Paul Mellon. And Paul Mellon tells him that he and Allen Dulles were on this like, you know, tech retrieval operation deep in, you know, post-World War II, you know, Nazi Germany, or maybe it was like '44, '45. And they're saying that they're standing atop this huge saucer-like UFO in Czechoslova”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:13:32.6-01:14:03.2 hearsay third hand

  1545. 1545

    In Sekret Machines the Maynard Consortium is a private organisation with a handle not only on the UFO issue but on a large amount of geopolitical power.

    “the Maynard consortium is very interesting because it's this private organization, which seems to have a handle, not simply on the UFO issue, but a huge amount of power geopolitically as well.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:15:56.5-01:16:06.6 administrative second hand

  1546. 1546

    William Neal McCasland disappeared days after Donald Trump announced there would be some form of UFO disclosure.

    “Days after Trump announced that there was gonna be some sort of disclosure.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:16:39.5-01:16:42.0 testimony first hand

  1547. 1547

    William Neal McCasland was one of the few sources for modern UFO disclosure and for much of what came out of Tom DeLonge's work.

    “one of the few sources for, uh, kind of modern disclosure and a lot of, you know, what came out of, you know, Tom DeLonge's work”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:16:46.8-01:16:54.7 opinion first hand

  1548. 1548

    Ben Rich wrote about an international corporate board of directors that deals with the UFO issue.

    “He writes about an international corporate board of directors that deals with the UFO issue.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:17:39.9-01:17:45.1 testimony second hand

  1549. 1549

    Jason Samosa considers that the World Commerce Corporation matches the Maynard Consortium of Sekret Machines from a personnel perspective, without direct evidence of a UFO connection.

    “Do we have any evidence that they had anything to do with UFOs, or it just sounds exactly like the Maynard consortium from a personnel perspective. / From a personnel perspective. Yes.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:25:45.0-01:25:54.8 opinion first hand

  1550. 1550

    In the Sekret Machines novel the Maynard Consortium's connection to UFOs is fairly obscure.

    “in the novel, the connection to UFOs is kind of like pretty obscure anyway.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:25:56.9-01:26:01.1 opinion first hand

  1551. 1551

    In Messengers of Deception, an anonymous source identified only as Major Murphy suggested to Jacques Vallee that people may have created flying saucers during World War II, pointing to 1943, and that the real advantage of the technology was not its flight capability but its psychotronic effect.

    “He's talking with Vallee about, what if it's possible that people created flying saucers during the war? And he points to 1943 and he says, you know, what if someone was experimenting with this technology? It turns out its real advantage wasn't its flight capabilities, but its psychotronic effect.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:27:48.1-01:28:04.8 hearsay third hand

  1552. 1552

    When Jacques Vallee asked whether he was suggesting the Nazis were behind the UFO phenomenon, the anonymous source called Major Murphy in Messengers of Deception replied by asking why Vallee was talking about the Nazis and saying other people became involved.

    “Vallee then butts in basically and says, are you seriously suggesting that the Nazis are behind the UFO phenomenon? His response is, why are you talking about the Nazis? Other people became involved.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:28:09.5-01:28:19.6 hearsay third hand

  1553. 1553

    Jason Samosa considers the implication of the Major Murphy passage in Messengers of Deception to be that wartime flying-saucer technology ended up being worked on by people other than the Nazis.

    “The implication here is that somehow this technology ended up getting worked on by other people.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:28:21.4-01:28:25.9 opinion first hand

  1554. 1554

    The Stars Are Too High is a novel about rogue Nazi scientists who break away and collaborate with American scientists to create man-made UFOs and then stage an alien invasion.

    “it's a book about rogue Nazi scientists who break off and collaborate with American scientists and create essentially man-made UFOs and then stage an alien invasion.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:31:43.3-01:31:58.4 testimony second hand

  1555. 1555

    Maria Wang told William Steinman that her husband Eric Henry Wang had worked on UFOs and that his boss was Henry Kissinger.

    “and she's like yes my husband did work on ufos and his boss was Henry Kissinger”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:32:31.8-01:32:37.5 hearsay third hand

  1556. 1556

    Jesse Michels believes Henry Kissinger might have been tied in with the UFO subject.

    “there are a couple of other things that make me believe Kissinger might've been tied in with the whole UFO thing”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:32:41.7-01:32:46.9 opinion first hand

  1557. 1557

    During the 2016 United States presidential election Hillary Clinton was doing very well against Donald Trump and was promising to release information about UFOs.

    “you go back to the 2016 election, you've got Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump. Hillary Clinton's doing very well and is promising to release information about UFOs and try and pull the lid off of things.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:44:22.6-01:44:31.3 testimony first hand

  1558. 1558

    Ben Rich, late in his life, spoke about UFOs and lamented that the UFO issue was governed by an international corporate board, hoping instead that it would be brought under the umbrella of the American intelligence and aerospace world, according to Jesse Michels.

    “Ben Rich was saying, well, he was saying at the end of his life, he was talking about UFOs and he was lamenting the fact that the UFO issue was governed by this international corporate board and was hoping that it would be taken under the kind of umbrella of, you know, American Intel and aerospace world more.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:50:40.2-01:50:59.6 hearsay second hand

  1559. 1559

    Ben Rich said there was something international above him that governed the UFO issue, according to Jesse Michels.

    “And he's saying that there's something international above him that governs the UFO issue.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:51:11.6-01:51:17.9 hearsay second hand

  1560. 1560

    The Jeffrey Epstein matter, the deep state, underground criminal networks and the UFO issue intersect, and whatever that entity is today is probably quite dangerous, in Jason Samosa's assessment.

    “you see this sort of conflation of, Epstein issue and the deep state issue and the underground criminal networks with the UFO issue and they i think they intersect in there whatever it is today is probably quite dangerous”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:51:29.2-01:51:41.3 opinion first hand

  1561. 1561

    Symposiums studying UFOs are constructed in the lineage of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, in Jason Samosa's account as summarised by Jesse Michels.

    “You often get these sort of constructs as well of like, symposiums studying UFOs in the context of like, you describe it as like of the lineage of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:52:18.1-01:52:31.7 opinion second hand

  1562. 1562

    A secrecy faction seeking to keep UFO information contained has two options: improving data leak prevention, and psychologically manipulating individual researchers based on their profile, in Jason Samosa's assessment.

    “if you're part of the secrecy faction and you've been tasked with trying to keep this information in, what are your options? You can go and you can say, we need to improve our data leak prevention system... The other one is how do you deal with someone like Gerb?... number one is you can start to psychologically manipulate someone based on their profile.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:53:08.8-01:53:30.7 opinion first hand

  1563. 1563

    UFOs have gone mainstream over the last ten years, in Jason Samosa's assessment.

    “I think what's happened over the last 10 years is UFOs have kind of gone mainstream.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:57:27.8-01:57:31.3 opinion first hand

  1564. 1564

    When Jason Samosa tells people he runs a UFO channel, they typically do not dismiss the subject but instead struggle with why the government would keep it secret and how secrecy could be maintained.

    “people, they don't respond by saying like, what are you on about? Normally what they struggle with is like, why would the government keep it secret and how do they keep it secret?”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:57:45.6-01:57:53.8 testimony first hand

  1565. 1565

    The UFO disclosure movement has an inevitable life cycle in which different evangelists are needed for different audiences at different stages, in Jason Samosa's assessment.

    “the same people who did the first, you know, kind of movement of this aren't going to be the same people who do the next one... because you need different types of evangelists for different types of audiences at different times. So there is an inevitable life cycle as well.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:58:05.0-01:58:20.7 opinion first hand

  1566. 1566

    Charles III is very interested in UFOs, according to Jesse Michels, who reports it as something apparently the case.

    “apparently King Charles is super into UFOs.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:58:58.4-01:59:00.2 hearsay

  1567. 1567

    An object landed on one of Louis Mountbatten's properties and was seen by his gardener, and Mountbatten vouched for the gardener and filed a report, according to a story recounted by Jason Samosa.

    “I think there's a story that something landed on one of his properties and his gardener saw it. And he, he vouched for his gardener and put a report in.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 01:59:15.0-01:59:24.6 hearsay

  1568. 1568

    Jason Samosa would not trust anything Charles III said about UFOs, even though he hopes the king is interested in the subject.

    “So I hope he's into it. Um, but I, you know, if he was to say anything about it, I wouldn't trust him.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:00:29.1-02:00:34.6 opinion first hand

  1569. 1569

    Claiborne Pell was deeply interested in UFOs and paranormal subjects.

    “who is super into, you know, UFOs, paranormal stuff”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:01:13.9-02:01:16.6 testimony

  1570. 1570

    Hans-Adam II was friends with Whitley Strieber and was strongly interested in UFOs.

    “he was friends with Whitley Strieber and like, he was just really interested in UFOs.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:02:04.4-02:02:08.1 testimony

  1571. 1571

    Jesse Michels considers the outlook of the Lone Stars group figure he describes to be eschatological at its core, holding that Jesus will arrive on a flying saucer.

    “And I think, I think he believes that Jesus will show up on a flying saucer or something. it's eschatological at its core.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:03:00.1-02:03:09.3 opinion first hand

  1572. 1572

    Some people interpret the ascension of Jesus into a cloud described in the Book of Acts as a flying saucer.

    “I think there are people who think that, you know, the Jesus going up on the cloud in the book of acts as a, you know, as a flying saucer or something.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:03:25.7-02:03:32.7 opinion first hand

  1573. 1573

    Jesse Michels sees cynical motives, weird elements and competing factions behind the modern UFO disclosure push.

    “Obviously there are cynical motives and intents behind it and weird elements and factions all fighting and vying for it”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:04:45.4-02:04:54.4 opinion first hand

  1574. 1574

    Jesse Michels finds the UFO disclosure push hopeful because it bulldozes the past paradigm of materialist reductionism, which he regards as leading to nihilism.

    “this bulldozer into the past paradigm of kind of materialist reductionism which to me leads to kind of nihilism”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:05:00.3-02:05:07.9 opinion first hand

  1575. 1575

    Luis Elizondo said many years ago that UFO disclosure cannot be delivered as a ten-course menu all at once and must be done piece by piece.

    “Lou Elizondo, many years ago, he said, you can't do a 10 course menu all at once. You have to do it piece by piece.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:07:52.1-02:07:57.3 hearsay second hand

  1576. 1576

    Jason Samosa counts five or six stages of UFO disclosure as already delivered: that there is something in the air, that its nature is unknown, that some of these objects have crashed, that they are very likely not Russian or Chinese, that bodies have been recovered, and that there is a secret and sensitive programme.

    “So we've had, there's something in the air. We don't know what it is, but we've had, um, some of these things have crashed. It's very likely not Russia or China. We've got the bodies, there's a secret program and it's sensitive. We've been through like five or six courses.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:07:58.0-02:08:09.5 opinion first hand

  1577. 1577

    Tom DeLonge said when he came out publicly that there is a big genetic component to the UFO phenomenon.

    “So DeLonge, when he came out, he was like, there's a big genetic component to this.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:08:44.0-02:08:48.1 hearsay second hand

  1578. 1578

    Jason Samosa considers human-alien hybridisation a late-stage disclosure topic and possibly too dangerous to discuss at all, because the ability to breed with non-human entities would imply humans are related to them and would destabilise religion.

    “you begin to realize why it would be at the very least a late stage topic. And then you might even realize maybe it's too dangerous to even talk about it... if we can breed with non-human entities, does that mean that we're related?... now you're destabilizing religion as well.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:09:32.4-02:09:51.1 opinion first hand

  1579. 1579

    Jason Samosa argues that revealing some people have more non-human DNA than others would create a spectrum by which a person could be judged more or less human, and that current geopolitical conflicts make it unwise to release such information now.

    “if we were to reveal that some people on the planet have more non-human DNA, whilst other people have less, that creates a spectrum by which you can judge whether a person is more or less human. telling me you want to release that information into the general population right now?”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:12:46.4-02:13:01.3 opinion first hand

  1580. 1580

    Jesse Michels agrees that releasing information about differing levels of non-human DNA in people would not be a good idea at present.

    “Jason Samosa: telling me you want to release that information into the general population right now? Jesse Michels: no it doesn't seem like a good idea”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:12:58.4-02:13:03.4 opinion first hand

  1581. 1581

    Jesse Michels suggests a savvy intelligence figure could disclose alien-human hybrid information knowing most of the public would dismiss it, letting the idea marinate and trickle through society until it becomes acceptable to discuss five or ten years later and academics take it up.

    “if you're the Intel person who's super savvy, you're going to know that you saying that will hit like, you know, some part of the population... And then it kind of sits there, marinates trickles through society and kind of, you know, it becomes more acceptable to talk about five, 10 years later... one academic gets interested, and that's how this thing sort of gets legitimized”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:13:53.1-02:14:08.9 opinion first hand

  1582. 1582

    Jesse Michels holds that senior intelligence figures speaking publicly about the UFO subject do not want to be seen decades later as having bald-faced lied to the American public, which constrains what they say.

    “they don't want to be looked at as like, you just bold faced lied to the American public, you know, as some high up Intel person.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:15:18.5-02:15:24.9 opinion first hand

  1583. 1583

    Jason Samosa is certain the Vatican knows something about UFOs.

    “Jesse Michels: Do you think the Vatican knows anything about UFOs? Jason Samosa: Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I do.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:17:50.6-02:17:55.4 opinion first hand

  1584. 1584

    Sources from lawyers, doctors and other serious witnesses to the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima describe the object seen in the sky as a silvery disc.

    “the sources that we have from lawyers and doctors and, you know, very serious people describe it as a silvery disc.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:21:31.6-02:21:37.5 testimony second hand

  1585. 1585

    The object seen during the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima hovered, moved erratically about the sky, descended as though about to strike the crowd, and then went back up.

    “It's hovering there and it's suddenly doing this and it's going there and it's doing that. It's whizzing around at one point, it comes down, it seems like it's about to hit them and it goes back.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:21:38.6-02:21:45.4 testimony second hand

  1586. 1586

    The Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) recurs throughout UFO lore, arriving after sightings at nuclear bases to seize radar data, silence witnesses and require non-disclosure agreements.

    “Cause they pop up all over UFO lore... somebody in nuclear base sees something and the air force officer special investigations shows up... Says, you know, give me all the radar data, shut up about this, sign this NDA.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:25:22.8-02:25:36.8 opinion first hand

  1587. 1587

    Jason Samosa argues that placing people in key positions such as the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) and Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) directorships gives the Holy See (the Vatican) effectively a seat on the board of directors of the UFO issue.

    “if you have the Vatican who may have an interest in preventing that ultimate revolution, and they now manage to get people in positions of key power, AFOSI, different general CIA directors... you've now essentially got a seat at the board of directors of the UFO issue.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:26:45.0-02:27:05.4 opinion first hand

  1588. 1588

    Jason Samosa believes the Holy See (the Vatican) knows more than it discloses about the UFO subject and has tried to reinterpret events.

    “so yeah, I do think that the Vatican knows more. I do think that they've tried to reinterpret things”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:27:39.2-02:27:42.9 opinion first hand

  1589. 1589

    Jesse Michels considers the biggest fallacy of UFO research to be treating figures such as Ronald Reagan as though they spent most of their time on UFOs, when the subject was under one per cent of their attention and their real focus was geopolitics.

    “And I think maybe the biggest fallacy of UFO research is we talk about Reagan, like he spends all his time on UFOs. They're realizing it's sub 1%. And he really is just geopolitics.”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:29:48.7-02:30:00.5 opinion first hand

  1590. 1590

    Jesse Michels believes Donald Trump is not thinking deeply about UFOs, and finds the Resorts International connection to Trump fascinating and worth looking into.

    “And same with Trump... if there's anything going on there, the resort's international thing. That's fascinating. And I want to look into that. But, like, my gut on that guy is he's not thinking deeply about UFOs, you know?”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 02:30:01.0-02:30:12.5 opinion first hand

  1591. 1591

    Ross Coulthart is a veteran Australian reporter who became a leading UFO disclosure journalist.

    “[note: Ross Coulthart - Veteran Australian reporter turned leading disclosure journalist]”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 line 107 administrative

  1592. 1592

    Bruce Maccabee is a Navy physicist who wrote the UFO briefing given for Bill Clinton.

    “[note: Bruce Maccabee - Navy physicist who wrote the Clinton UFO briefing]”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 line 142 administrative

  1593. 1593

    Hans-Adam II is the Prince of Liechtenstein and funded UFO research.

    “[note: Hans-Adam II - Prince of Liechtenstein who funded UFO research]”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 line 312 administrative

  1594. 1594

    Bigelow Aerospace was the contractor that ran the Pentagon's UFO programme.

    “[note: Begelow Aerospace - Contractor that ran the Pentagon's UFO program]”

    The UFO Cover-Up Leads to One Secret Society — and One Final Event 2026-07-14 line 78 administrative

  1595. 1595

    Horace Drew has been active in the UFO field for a considerable time.

    “He's also been in and around the UFO space quite a lot.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:21:56.9-00:21:59.4 administrative first hand

  1596. 1596

    Bill Chalker is a respected UFO researcher in Australia.

    “Bill Chalker, who's like a respected UFO researcher in Australia.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:22:03.3-00:22:06.6 administrative first hand

  1597. 1597

    In the Maury Island incident a person said his dog was killed by slag falling from a UFO.

    “which was another UFO experience where somebody said his dog got killed by UFO slag coming down or whatever.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:27:04.2-00:27:09.7 hearsay second hand

  1598. 1598

    Nick Pope ran the UFO desk at the United Kingdom Ministry of Defence, a role Chris Ramsay likens to the Scully or Mulder figure of the United Kingdom.

    “even you look at Nick Pope, who is, you know, kind of the Scully or the Molder of the UK at the UFO desk for the MOD.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:27:18.3-00:27:27.5 administrative first hand

  1599. 1599

    David Duchovny is a UFO sceptic, according to what Jesse Michels has heard.

    “Well, I think he's a UFO skeptic is what I hear.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:28:30.6-00:28:32.9 hearsay

  1600. 1600

    Jesse Michels considers that public consensus on UFOs is shifting, and that five or six years before 2026-07-17 it was not popular to say one believed in the subject.

    “now I do think the consensus is shifting five, six years ago. I don't think it was popular to say you believe in this stuff.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:28:55.6-00:29:02.6 opinion first hand

  1601. 1601

    Jesse Michels considers open-source knowledge on the UFO subject to be a minefield.

    “it's like an open source knowledge on this stuff is a fucking minefield.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:36:25.2-00:36:29.5 opinion first hand

  1602. 1602

    Jesse Michels believes Russia must have an underwater unidentified aerial phenomena programme because it operates nuclear submarines, which he holds attract the phenomenon.

    “I think they have to have a program because they have nuclear subs. And if you have nuclear subs, then you're going to attract this stuff no matter what.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:37:48.2-00:37:55.8 opinion first hand

  1603. 1603

    A Russian woman who was an opera singer inherited files from her father, whom she had believed to be a janitor, on his death, including a book of diagrams of UFOs and unconventional science; her account was featured on Ross Coulthart's programme.

    “There was this lady. She was like this opera singer. Her father was a janitor, what she thought was a janitor. And then when he died, he left her with all of these files. And it's a book filled with diagrams of UFOs and, like, trippy science.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 00:38:19.0-00:38:34.0 hearsay second hand

  1604. 1604

    Once a year, within the grounds of Vatican City, a UFO research group meets and discusses historical unidentified flying object material, at a location Jesse Michels renders in rough translation as St Anne's Cathedral.

    “And they have in, I think it's like the rough translation is like St. Anne's Cathedral. There's once a year within the grounds of the Vatican, there is a UFO research group that meets up and discusses this old stuff.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:06:18.1-01:06:32.6 testimony first hand

  1605. 1605

    In his interview with Jesse Michels, Kirsan Ilyumzhinov said he spent a great deal of time with Henry Kissinger and that Henry Kissinger seemed to know a lot about the UFO subject.

    “He said he spent a ton of time with Kissinger, and Kissinger seemed to know a lot about the UFO stuff.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:08:13.1-01:08:17.2 hearsay second hand

  1606. 1606

    A week or two after the Vatican interfaith event, Jesse Michels learned from an unstated source that the Cardinal Secretary of State of the Holy See had in certain instances expressed an interest in UFOs.

    “then I find out a week or two later that in certain instances, he's expressed interest in UFOs”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:10:42.2-01:10:49.1 hearsay

  1607. 1607

    UAP Gerb uses physical training to stay sane while working on the UFO subject.

    “Well, I, you got to, to stay sane sometimes on this subject.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:27:40.0-01:27:42.8 testimony first hand

  1608. 1608

    Jesse Michels currently surfs, runs and meditates, and spends a lot of his time on UFOs.

    “But yeah, I don't know, surfing, running now, more meditating. ... Definitely spend a lot of time on UFOs and crazy shit.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:29:13.3-01:29:17.9 testimony first hand

  1609. 1609

    Chris Ramsay considers that most of the work of making interview episodes on the UFO subject lies outside the conversations themselves, in the reading and research required between episodes.

    “A lot of people think a lot of the brunt of the work is like having those conversations, holding court, coming up with questions. It's more than that. It's like, it's the amount of brain power it takes to devote to the subject on the off time.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:29:39.6-01:29:52.6 opinion first hand

  1610. 1610

    Jesse Michels considers that daily UFO news coverage at its best amplifies material that would otherwise be drowned out by major political events, and at its worst is a celebrity-gossip treatment of the UFO subject.

    “It's like you're covering and amplifying stuff that like needs to be amplified, especially because like all this stuff gets drowned out often by like the World War Three. ... i think in its worst form it's like uh sports center for or TMZ for UFOs”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:32:29.5-01:32:48.6 opinion first hand

  1611. 1611

    Jesse Michels considers that the UFO subject touches on ontological and sacred truths about the nature of reality and that daily news coverage has turned it into a he-said-she-said food fight.

    “you managed to take this like topic that touches on like ontological truths sacred truths like what is reality like you know itself like the most important questions and you've managed to turn it into like this he said she said like food fight thing”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:32:54.9-01:33:11.0 opinion first hand

  1612. 1612

    UAP Gerb considers that a person covering daily UFO news has knowledge as wide as an ocean but as deep as a puddle, because there is no time to specialise in individual parts of the subject.

    “your knowledge is as wide as an ocean, but as deep as a puddle, right? Because you don't have the time or ability to really specialize in various parts of the subject.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 01:33:45.4-01:33:52.4 opinion first hand

  1613. 1613

    UAP Gerb considers that researchers of the UFO subject each specialise in different aspects of it - experiencers, science and physics, and legacy programme material - and that covering all of it at once would be impossible.

    “All of us focus and specialize in different aspects of this topic. ... experiencers, science and physics, legacy program stuff. It'd be so impossible to cover all of it at once.”

    Jesse Michels, UAPGerb & Chris Ramsay - Flying Saucer Diner 2026-07-17 lines 346-350 opinion first hand

  1614. 1614

    Credible people, including military pilots, commercial pilots, and people with trained instrumentation, made observations of UFOs that were being suppressed.

    “We had credible people, military pilots, commercial pilots, people with trained instrumentation that were making observations that were being suppressed.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:05:43.1-00:05:55.6 testimony first hand

  1615. 1615

    Witnesses reporting UFO sightings were sometimes threatened with substantial fines.

    “In fact, they were being threatened with prison time, with substantial fines, even with the Espionage Act.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:05:56.7-00:06:06.7 testimony first hand

  1616. 1616

    Witnesses reporting UFO sightings were sometimes threatened with prison time.

    “In fact, they were being threatened with prison time, with substantial fines, even with the Espionage Act.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:05:56.7-00:06:06.7 testimony first hand

  1617. 1617

    Witnesses reporting UFO sightings were sometimes threatened with prosecution under the Espionage Act.

    “In fact, they were being threatened with prison time, with substantial fines, even with the Espionage Act.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:05:56.7-00:06:06.7 testimony first hand

  1618. 1618

    Documents due to be released contain radar tracks relevant to UFO sightings.

    “they certainly know that all of that is contained in the documents that are going to be released and the gun cameras, the radar tracks that are going to be released.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:06:08.1-00:06:22.7 testimony first hand

  1619. 1619

    Documents due to be released contain gun camera footage relevant to UFO sightings.

    “they certainly know that all of that is contained in the documents that are going to be released and the gun cameras, the radar tracks that are going to be released.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:06:08.1-00:06:22.7 testimony first hand

  1620. 1620

    Phil McGraw considers the historical suppression of UFO reports comparable to a psyop like those seen in past war efforts where the media machine was co-opted to fabricate atrocities to gain public support.

    “It's like a psyop that we've seen previously in war efforts when the entire media machine was co-opted into convincing people to get behind the war effort by mimicking war atrocities that were completely made up just to get people behind the war effort, that the same thing was going on concerning UAPs and UFOs.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:06:33.3-00:06:58.2 opinion first hand

  1621. 1621

    Phil McGraw considers there to be a fragmentation of UFO-related information within the United States government.

    “there's something that's going on here that there's a fragmentation of this information within the United States government.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:07:37.3-00:07:46.1 opinion first hand

  1622. 1622

    Phil McGraw concludes there is no question there are unexplained phenomena occurring in the Earth's atmosphere.

    “there's no question there are unexplained phenomenon happening in our atmosphere here.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:11:23.6-00:11:31.7 opinion first hand

  1623. 1623

    There have been sightings of anomalous phenomena over the Pantex Plant nuclear site in Amarillo, Texas, in recent years.

    “This has continued as recently as just the last few years we've had sightings over Pantex up in Amarillo, a nuclear site.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:13:33.6-00:13:46.0 testimony first hand

  1624. 1624

    Five cities with nuclear concentrations have had a high incidence of verified UFO sightings over nuclear installations.

    “We've got five cities with nuclear concentrations and they've had a high incidence of verified sightings over our nuclear installations.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:13:47.2-00:13:55.8 testimony first hand

  1625. 1625

    JNAP 146 criminalised military and civilian pilots in the United States and Canada from talking about UFO sightings.

    “what's called JNAP 146, where it essentially criminalised military and civilian pilots in the US and unbelievably also in Canada from even talking about UFO sightings.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:14:26.8-00:14:39.3 administrative first hand

  1626. 1626

    Phil McGraw considers the UFO information disclosed so far to have been provided without adequate context.

    “you can't and this is already happening just with what's been given so far is it's being provided without context”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:20:15.2-00:20:22.7 opinion first hand

  1627. 1627

    Phil McGraw considers the publicly released UFO videos to be intentionally grainy.

    “I look at these, and by the way, they're, I think, intentionally grainy.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:20:43.5-00:20:46.8 opinion first hand

  1628. 1628

    Some UAP have been recorded on radar appearing to move at approximately 64,000 kilometres per hour and execute a 90-degree turn.

    “We have things that within context appear to be moving close to 40,000 miles an hour and making a right turn. I mean a 90 degree right turn.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:21:49.7-00:22:04.4 measurement first hand

  1629. 1629

    Estimates of the G-forces some UAP would experience, depending on configuration, range between 10,000 and one million G.

    “the estimates are, depending on how things were configured, that the G-forces would be somewhere between 10,000 and a million.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:22:25.2-00:22:32.8 measurement first hand

  1630. 1630

    Phil McGraw considers that a human being would liquefy internally under the G-forces attributed to some UAP.

    “I think you get anywhere near what they're talking about. we would liquefy inside that.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:22:48.5-00:22:55.5 opinion first hand

  1631. 1631

    Phil McGraw considers that current human metallurgy could not withstand the manoeuvres attributed to some UAP.

    “we also don't have the metallurgy to have any kind of aircraft that it would look like a yard sale if we turn.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:22:55.8-00:23:03.0 opinion first hand

  1632. 1632

    Searches for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) increased by approximately 400% after Phil McGraw began discussing the topic.

    “I was amused to see that searches for UAPs, I think it went up 400% when you started talking about it.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:27:13.8-00:27:20.7 measurement first hand

  1633. 1633

    Phil McGraw considers that there has been a cover-up of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue by the government, which the government continues to deny.

    “But it's quite clear that there has been a cover up of the UAP issue.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:27:39.8-00:27:43.3 opinion first hand

  1634. 1634

    Credible people have told Phil McGraw that there are genuinely unexplainable things going on regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “And credible people are telling me that we truly do have some unexplainable things going on.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:28:58.8-00:29:08.9 hearsay second hand

  1635. 1635

    Phil McGraw considers that the government is hiding information about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), possibly for some good motives.

    “But I think they're hiding it, and I think maybe there's been some good motives for it.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:30:22.7-00:30:28.3 opinion first hand

  1636. 1636

    Ross Coulthart knows of people in the White House administration who are considering giving the American public information about what the government knows regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “I do know that there are people in the White House administration. I suspect we've spoken to the same people who are toying with the idea of giving the American public information about what the government knows.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:31:20.9-00:31:34.5 testimony first hand

  1637. 1637

    Phil McGraw believes he has been given access to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) information because those granting access want him doing exactly what he is doing.

    “Well, I think what I'm doing right now, I think the reason they're giving me access to this is because they want me doing exactly what I'm doing.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:31:39.5-00:31:51.8 opinion first hand

  1638. 1638

    Phil McGraw has maintained independence in his coverage of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP), stating that those granting him access are not scripting him or telling him what to say, but trusting him to be authentic, transparent and candid with the American people.

    “and i have maintained independence uh in what i'm doing they're not scripting me they're not telling me what to say or not say they're just trusting me to be authentic transparent and um and candid with the american people”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:31:54.0-00:32:11.4 testimony first hand

  1639. 1639

    Phil McGraw states he does not believe that what he has been shown so far about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) is all there is to see or know.

    “And I'm not going to tell you that that's all there is to see or know. I'm telling you that I don't believe it's all there is to see or know.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:32:41.9-00:32:50.9 opinion first hand

  1640. 1640

    Phil McGraw states he can say with confidence to the American people and the world that there has been a huge cover-up regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “That's why I've said the two things that I can say with confidence to the American people and to the rest of the world is there has been a huge cover up and there are things going on in our atmosphere that we cannot explain.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:33:28.0-00:33:42.2 opinion first hand

  1641. 1641

    Phil McGraw considers approximately 40% of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) sightings to remain unexplained.

    “And I think 40% of these phenomenon have not been explained.”

    Dr. Phil read the UAP files before the public, here's what he found | Reality Check 2026-07-21 00:37:41.8-00:37:46.6 opinion first hand

  1642. 1642

    Chris Ramsay considers the Battelle Memorial Institute and the MITRE Corporation to be key corporations in the UFO subject.

    “Battelle, MITRE, uh, all of these corporations seem to be the key to,”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:07:52.9-00:07:57.4 opinion first hand

  1643. 1643

    Some people are frustrated or reluctant to acknowledge the United States government's UAP disclosure efforts because of fuzzy imagery and a lack of historic transparency.

    “there are a lot of people who are going to be a little frustrated or reluctant in acknowledging some of the disclosure efforts that have been put forth by the United States government due to fuzzy imagery and sort of the lack of historic transparency.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:08:25.1-00:08:40.4 opinion first hand

  1644. 1644

    Whitley Strieber considers that some parts of the emerging UAP subject are extraordinary and exciting while other parts will be really hard to deal with.

    “some parts of this are, uh, really extraordinary and exciting. But other parts of it are going to be hard to deal with, really hard to deal with.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:09:18.6-00:09:31.6 opinion first hand

  1645. 1645

    Whitley Strieber calls the abrupt onset of the close encounter experience the 'moment of activation', when a person sees a UFO and the next thing they know they are inside it or have missing time, and they become totally obsessed with the subject.

    “mostly it starts very abruptly when i call it the moon of activation when they see a ufo and the next thing they know they're in it or they they have missing time and they become totally obsessed with this”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:10:07.8-00:10:21.4 observation first hand

  1646. 1646

    Japan has recently entered the public conversation about UAP.

    “now we're seeing japan come into the conversation as well recently”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:11:19.2-00:11:22.2 observation first hand

  1647. 1647

    A common criticism of the United States government's UAP position is that UFOs appear only to land in the United States, which Chris Ramsay says is not the case.

    “so many of the criticism with the united states government is that why do they only land in the us why is it only in the us which we know it isn't”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:11:26.6-00:11:34.0 opinion first hand

  1648. 1648

    Brazil holds a great deal more UFO material than most countries, and opening it up matters because the experience reported there is very challenging.

    “In South America, Brazil undoubtedly has a great deal more than most countries. And that's important to open up because that's a really challenging experience down there.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:11:48.6-00:12:00.4 opinion first hand

  1649. 1649

    France has been collecting UFO information for years and it surfaces publicly only occasionally, and Italy probably holds such files as well, in Whitley Strieber's assessment.

    “france i know does and at least i'm sure pretty sure it does that they've been collecting this information for years and it sort of edges up to the surface every once in a while uh and italy probably does as well”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:12:01.7-00:12:16.9 opinion first hand

  1650. 1650

    The United Kingdom has had extraordinary UFO cases and undoubtedly holds remarkable files, but is very quiet about the subject, in Whitley Strieber's assessment.

    “i don't know about the uk i know the they must have they've had some extraordinary cases there and undoubtedly they have some some amazing files but... but they're very very quiet about this”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:12:17.9-00:12:34.2 opinion first hand

  1651. 1651

    The United Kingdom declassified a batch of UFO files in 2017.

    “yeah they declassified a whole bunch in 20 uh 20 was it 2017 i believe it was”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:12:34.3-00:12:43.1 administrative first hand

  1652. 1652

    Chris Ramsay considers the current official approach to UAP a cowardly one, in which material is released without any acknowledgement of what the phenomena are and with the government disclaiming responsibility for interpretation.

    “we're seeing a lack of acknowledgement on what this stuff is they're kind of just putting it out there and being like we're not responsible for whatever you think it is... and that seems like a cowardice type of approach”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:12:53.0-00:13:08.1 opinion first hand

  1653. 1653

    Whitley Strieber believes many of the recorded government records on the UFO subject have been offloaded into the private sector.

    “A lot of the records that were recorded, I think, have been offloaded into the private sector, and I can be fairly specific about that.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:14:53.2-00:15:01.2 opinion first hand

  1654. 1654

    Whitley Strieber believes that any genuinely substantive material on the UFO subject will have to be obtained from the private sector.

    “if we are ever going to find any really substantive material about this, we got to get it from the private sector.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:15:59.7-00:16:07.2 opinion first hand

  1655. 1655

    Underwater Unidentified Aerial Phenomena activity is apparently very important, as indicated by Tim Gallaudet's work.

    “if you, you know, Tim, uh, Tim Gallaudet and, uh, uh, you know, the, so, uh, underwater stuff is apparently very important.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:49:06.8-00:49:17.0 opinion second hand

  1656. 1656

    Chris Ramsay describes old artistic depictions pointed out by UFO researchers that show an object in the sky with a beam coming through a window and striking a person in the head, and interprets these as representing knowledge arriving from elsewhere.

    “when you have these old depictions, specifically the ones that are pointed out by UFO researchers, where there's one in the sky and there's this beam coming through a window, hitting the person in the head. This is the knowledge coming from elsewhere, the attended one.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 00:59:14.8-00:59:30.0 opinion first hand

  1657. 1657

    In an account by either David Fravor or Ryan Graves, United States military personnel attempted to lock onto a UAP and it scrambled their systems.

    “Was it Fravor or could have been Ryan Graves or one of the accounts where... They tried to lock onto this thing and it scrambled their systems”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:10:19.3-01:10:28.2 hearsay second hand

  1658. 1658

    Chris Ramsay considers the scrambling of United States military systems by a UAP to be, on paper, an act of war.

    “which on paper is an act of war”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:10:28.8-01:10:30.9 opinion first hand

  1659. 1659

    A UAP encountered by United States military personnel presented itself at a waypoint that nobody outside the crew knew of.

    “and then, you know, present themselves at the way point that, you know, nobody knew”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:10:35.4-01:10:39.3 hearsay second hand

  1660. 1660

    Whitley Strieber holds that non-human intelligences may be from another dimension, and that UFO and UAP sightings and the close encounter experience could be a military operation designed to bring a critical mass of human minds to assume they are real, after which they will become real and come.

    “they may be from another dimension and basically this whole thing all of the UFOs and all the stuff we're seeing UAPs that we're seeing the close encounter experience could be like a military operation designed to cause us to come to the assumption, the core assumption in every or a critical mass of human minds that they are real and then they will become real. They will come.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:23:05.7-01:23:34.6 opinion first hand

  1661. 1661

    Eric Davis, who had access to that information, said there is no one looking into advanced physics in the UAP programme.

    “that's some type of information that Eric Davis had access to. And he's like, yeah, there's no one looking into advanced physics in the program.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:26:17.1-01:26:24.6 hearsay second hand

  1662. 1662

    Eric Weinstein argued that the absence of physicists in the UAP programme makes no sense, because working out an unknown would require theoretical physicists of all kinds.

    “And where Weinstein's like, this doesn't make sense. If you're trying to figure something out, then you would need theoretical physicists of all kinds.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:26:25.0-01:26:33.2 hearsay second hand

  1663. 1663

    Whitley Strieber holds that the belief-as-doorway theory of UAP secrecy explains why there are no physicists in the UAP programme.

    “But this would definitely explain why there are none in it. ... It explains a lot, actually.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:26:33.4-01:26:37.2 opinion first hand

  1664. 1664

    Whitley Strieber holds that the United States Air Force almost certainly knows more about UFOs than any other branch of the United States armed services.

    “And the Air Force has got to know more than any other branch of the service, almost certainly.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:29:08.2-01:29:14.9 opinion first hand

  1665. 1665

    Every United States president since Harry Truman has declined to open up the UFO subject.

    “every president since truman has declined to open this door.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:29:36.5-01:29:44.8 opinion first hand

  1666. 1666

    Whitley Strieber holds that Harry Truman would certainly have been asked about the UFO subject, and that Dwight Eisenhower and Richard Nixon would have known about it.

    “Truman certainly would have been asked about that, uh Eisenhower would have known about it, Nixon would have known about it,”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:29:45.4-01:29:56.0 opinion first hand

  1667. 1667

    Jimmy Carter asked about the UFO subject, and Whitley Strieber knows that Ronald Reagan and his wife knew about it.

    “Carter asked about it, i know the Reagan's knew about it. They've all known something.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:29:57.1-01:30:05.2 testimony first hand

  1668. 1668

    At the end of the Barack Obama administration, John Podesta said his greatest regret was that the UFO files were not released.

    “John Podesta at the end of the Obama administration says, my greatest regret is that we didn't release the UFO files.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:30:10.2-01:30:19.0 hearsay second hand

  1669. 1669

    The chief astronomer of the church said recently that he does not believe the UFO phenomenon is real, and Chris Ramsay characterised the position as there not being enough evidence.

    “the chief astronomer of the church just the other day. ... Said, I don't believe that it's real. Chris Ramsay: Not enough evidence.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:30:31.6-01:30:37.9 hearsay second hand

  1670. 1670

    Lyndon Johnson was approached by someone about the Unidentified Flying Object subject for about five minutes, said he was not interested, and directed that it be taken to his vice president Hubert Humphrey.

    “I know that Lyndon Johnson was approached or he said, he was, they, someone talked to him, I'm pretty sure for about five minutes. And he said, I'm not interested in this. Take it to Hubert Humphrey, his vice president.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:32:19.3-01:32:35.0 hearsay

  1671. 1671

    Whitley Strieber relayed an unsourced account that Jimmy Carter wept when he was told the truth about the Unidentified Flying Object subject.

    “And, uh, Carter supposedly wept when he heard the truth.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:32:36.4-01:32:41.3 hearsay

  1672. 1672

    Jimmy Carter had a Unidentified Flying Object sighting of his own.

    “there's there and he had a sighting of his own too so”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:32:44.6-01:32:47.2 testimony

  1673. 1673

    Whitley Strieber's time slip on LaGuardia Place happened in 1983-03, before the events described in Communion, at a time when he had no interest in the Unidentified Flying Object or alien subject and had not thought about it since he was 12 years old.

    “This happened in March of 1983. It's important to understand that this was before any of the communion stuff. I was far from the UFO alien world at that time. That was of no interest to me whatsoever. And I hadn't thought about that since I was 12 years old.”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 01:47:10.6-01:47:28.8 testimony first hand

  1674. 1674

    Chris Ramsay considers a 2027 mass event timely given the critical mass of artificial intelligence, UAP, financial instability and environmental collapse.

    “But it seems to be timely as well if you look at the critical mass of all of these different, you know, things, whether it's AI, UAP, financial instability, you know, ... environmental collapse all this stuff”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 02:22:32.7-02:22:45.9 opinion first hand

  1675. 1675

    The Battelle Memorial Institute is a private, non-profit research organisation based in Ohio that played a central role in the scientific analysis of UFOs during the 1950s.

    “[note: The Battelle Memorial Institute is a privae, non-profit research organization based in Ohio that played a central role in the scientific analysis of UFOs during the 1950s.]”

    The Terrible Truth About the Visitors - Whitley Strieber | ep. 96 2026-07-24 line 81 administrative

  1676. 1676

    Chris Ramsay considers there to be an interesting intersection between ufology and the study of consciousness with respect to out-of-body and astral states, because the entities described are often mirrored in both fields.

    “there is an interesting intersection between ufology and the study of consciousness in regards to out-of-body and astral states, the entities are often mirrored.”

    Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:04:24.4-01:04:36.6 opinion first hand

  1677. 1677

    People who take plant medicines such as ayahuasca, peyote or psilocybin mushrooms in ceremony often find themselves taken to UFOs during the journey.

    “people that go on shamanic journeys that do plant medicines like ayahuasca or peyote or mushroom ceremonies ... they find themselves where being taken to, to UFOs.”

    Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:08:22.9-01:08:35.7 testimony first hand

  1678. 1678

    Jason Quitt considers that the government does need to come clean and release something to the public about UFOs because the public knows something is off.

    “I think that the government does need to come clean. They do need to release something. They need to give something to the public because the public knows that there's something off.”

    Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:56:10.3-01:56:21.7 opinion first hand

  1679. 1679

    Through long involvement in the UFO community Jason Quitt has met many people claiming to be whistleblowers, insiders, contactees or abductees, and considers that there is definitely something going on.

    “being in this community for so long, you meet so many people, people that claim to be whistleblowers or insiders or contactees or abductees. And there's definitely something going on.”

    Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:56:24.6-01:56:36.0 testimony first hand

  1680. 1680

    Jason Quitt likens the demand for bodies and craft to the older nuts-and-bolts approach of the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON), which was interested in the craft and in what powers it in the belief that obtaining that power system could change the world for the better.

    “it reminds me of like, kind of like the old MUFON type of nuts and bolts stuff where it's like, they're just interested in the craft. They need to know that technology. They want to know what powers it, because if they can get their hands on that power system, we can change the world for the better.”

    Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 01:58:40.7-01:58:54.7 opinion first hand

  1681. 1681

    Bob Mitchell was a journalist who recorded the accounts of experiencers of alien abduction and was heavily involved in UFO mythology.

    “Bob Mitchell was the guy who was the journalist who loved taking down experiencers' stories in alien abduction. So he was heavily involved in UFO mythology.”

    Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 02:04:54.0-02:05:06.0 administrative first hand

  1682. 1682

    Chris Ramsay encountered in his reading a theory that a defence system of spheres surrounds the Earth, working like white blood cells to prevent other beings from arriving, escorting them off the planet or zapping them if they come too close.

    “there is a defense system around the earth The spheres ... like this white blood cell sort of defense system that operates ... that prevents other beings from coming here, that escorts them off planet, that zaps them if they get too close type deal.”

    Researcher Describes Strange Encounters With Other Beings - Jason Quitt | Ep. 98 2026-08-07 02:13:00.1-02:13:21.9 hearsay second hand

  1683. 1683

    Skywatcher proposed using electromechanical signalling (called the dog whistle) and neuro-meditative interaction (known as psionic summoning) to seek to validate the existence of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “Skywatcher promised that it would seek to validate the existence of UAPs by using what it calls electromechanical signaling, aka the dog whistle. and neuro-meditative interaction, better known as psionic summoning or inviting of UAPs.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:01:43.1-00:02:03.0 observation first hand

  1684. 1684

    Based on observations from a base at Sierra Blanca, southeast of El Paso, Texas, the Skywatcher team reported identifying nine separate classes of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) using sensors and video cameras.

    “Most dramatically, based on observations from a base here in Sierra Blanca, southeast of El Paso, Texas, the Skywatcher team reported they'd identified nine separate classes of UAP with their sensors and video cameras.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:02:05.1-00:02:24.2 observation first hand

  1685. 1685

    During Skywatcher's psionic summoning and dog whistle operations at Sierra Blanca in 2025, including in July 2025, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) swarms began appearing in great numbers over the White Sands Missile Range, approximately 320 kilometres northwest of El Paso.

    “Defence sources tell me that their observers were watching on during Skywatch's Sierra Blanca operation, and they made a major discovery during Skywatch's psionic summoning and dog whistle operations during 2025, including in that last July 2025 test. At exactly the same time that Skywatcher was doing its operations at Sierra Blanca, 200 miles to the northwest, UAP swarms suddenly began appearing in great numbers over the White Sands missile range to the northwest of El Paso.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:15:25.3-00:16:13.3 hearsay second hand

  1686. 1686

    Any disruption of White Sands Missile Range's airspace by Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) or unidentified objects is a major national security threat.

    “Any disruption of Wismer's airspace by UAPs, unidentified objects of any kind, is a major national security threat.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:17:06.9-00:17:17.5 opinion first hand

  1687. 1687

    From November 2025 to August 2026, the United States government in a joint operation with multiple intelligence and defense agencies has been using Temporary Flight Restrictions (TFR) airspace shutdowns to conduct its own Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) intercept operations.

    “I'm told that from November last year until now The United States government in a joint operation with multiple intelligence and defense agencies has been using these airspace shutdowns, these TFRs to do its own UAP intercept operations.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:17:43.8-00:18:08.4 hearsay second hand

  1688. 1688

    The United States government has been summoning, detecting, and shooting down what others call drones or Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) via the airspace shutdowns.

    “Yes, they have been summoning, detecting and yes, shooting down what we some call drones, others UAPs.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:18:10.0-00:18:23.1 hearsay second hand

  1689. 1689

    The airspace closures were implemented to provide the government with a secure location from which it could summon, detect, and shoot down Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) or craft, preventing non-government activity in the area.

    “The airspace was closed to stop any other non-government activity so that the government had a secure location from where it could summon, detect and shoot down UAPs, craft.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:18:25.3-00:18:41.4 hearsay second hand

  1690. 1690

    The Department of Defense (DoD) has taken on the running of its own covert operation to intercept mystery objects.

    “The Department of War has quite literally taken on the running of its own covert operation to intercept these mystery objects.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:19:16.5-00:19:27.3 hearsay second hand

  1691. 1691

    The Department of Defense (DoD) has recently downed objects or craft both in the United States and across the border near Juárez, Mexico.

    “And I'm told they have recently downed objects, craft, both in the US and across the border near Juarez in Mexico.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:19:29.5-00:19:41.7 hearsay second hand

  1692. 1692

    President Donald Trump has personally authorised the Department of Defense (DoD) operation to intercept and recover Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “I am also told by White House sources that President Trump has personally authorized this operation.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:19:43.9-00:19:51.3 hearsay second hand

  1693. 1693

    The Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) is involved in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) interception operation.

    “The Office of the Director of National Intelligence, ODNI, is also involved.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:20:46.7-00:20:52.3 hearsay second hand

  1694. 1694

    The objects, craft, or Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) being targeted over White Sands Missile Range definitely show anomalous properties conforming to the five observables that define UAP.

    “My sources tell me that the craft, objects, UAPs, whatever you want to call them, are being targeted over white sands and they definitely show anomalous properties conforming to the five observables that define UAPs.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:21:21.5-00:21:38.6 hearsay second hand

  1695. 1695

    President Donald Trump may not be receiving the full story about what is being recovered in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operation.

    “What's concerning is that I'm being told the president is not getting the full story about what's being recovered.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:21:52.6-00:22:00.3 opinion second hand

  1696. 1696

    President Trump wants the United States to have and to know all about exotic technologies derived from Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “Understandably, the President wants the US to have and to know all about these exotic technologies.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:23:17.6-00:23:24.0 opinion first hand

  1697. 1697

    There is a question as to whether President Trump is being told the full story by those he trusts to keep him briefed on the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operation.

    “But is he being told the full story by those he trusts to keep him briefed?”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:23:25.9-00:23:32.3 opinion first hand

  1698. 1698

    President Trump is not being told the full story about the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operation.

    “I'm told he's not.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:23:33.8-00:23:35.3 hearsay second hand

  1699. 1699

    If President Trump intends to disclose to the public what the government is discovering over White Sands Missile Range, this would represent a potentially huge development for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) disclosure.

    “If the president intends to disclose to the public, what they're discovering over at White Sands, then this is potentially a huge development for UAP disclosure.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:23:37.4-00:23:49.3 opinion first hand

  1700. 1700

    What President Trump plans to do with the information recovered from the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operation and the exotic technology recovered is not yet clear.

    “But what he plans to do with the information he gets and the exotic technology he recovers is not yet clear.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:23:50.6-00:24:00.1 observation first hand

  1701. 1701

    If President Trump is genuinely using the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operation to eventually inform the public, this represents a laudable initiative.

    “If the president is genuinely doing this for the purposes of informing the public eventually, I think it's a laudable initiative.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:25:16.0-00:25:22.6 opinion first hand

  1702. 1702

    Ross Coulthart shares Jake Barber's cynicism about Congress's genuine intent to be truthful with the public regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) matters.

    “Look, I share Jake's cynicism about the genuine attempt, intent of Congress to actually be straight with the public.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:26:09.1-00:26:17.0 opinion first hand

  1703. 1703

    Ross Coulthart believes there are people in Congress who know about the covert Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operation and have been lying to the public and media about what they know.

    “I'm pretty sure there are people in Congress that know about this covert operation and they've been lying to you and to me and to the general public about what they know.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:26:18.0-00:26:26.8 opinion first hand

  1704. 1704

    The covert Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operation has been concealed behind the explanation that it is an operation to down foreign adversary drones.

    “I think that what's happened is that this has been concealed behind the excuse and the explanation that it was a covert operation to down mystery drones, foreign adversary drones.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:26:28.2-00:26:40.2 opinion first hand

  1705. 1705

    The covert Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operation puts a different complexion on the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) Disclosure Initiative (PURSUE) released by the Trump administration.

    “And frankly, it really does put a complexion on the whole PURSUE initiative.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:27:00.1-00:27:04.9 opinion first hand

  1706. 1706

    Ross Coulthart's sources indicate that civilian aircraft have been accidentally brought down by high-power microwave (HPM) weapons during legacy Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operations conducted in other parts of the United States targeting Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) craft.

    “I'm told from my own sources that there have been craft incidentally brought down, civilian aircraft brought down as an accident by high pulse microwaves during legacy operations that have taken place in other parts of the United States targeting UAP craft.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:27:26.7-00:27:49.9 hearsay second hand

  1707. 1707

    The government may have made the decision to conduct covert Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operations for national security reasons.

    “it may very well be they've taken the decision that they need to do this for national security imperatives.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:28:06.7-00:28:10.9 opinion first hand

  1708. 1708

    The concern is that the government is putting civilians at risk by conducting the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operations with dangerous weaponry.

    “what I can't understand is why they're putting civilians at risk”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:28:14.3-00:28:18.2 opinion first hand

  1709. 1709

    It is not certain whether the medevac aircraft deaths were connected to the covert Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operation described by Ross Coulthart.

    “Now, we don't know for sure that that was connected to the covert operation that I'm describing.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:28:30.9-00:28:34.6 observation first hand

  1710. 1710

    Very dangerous weapons are being used in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operation, which is why the El Paso airspace was shut down.

    “But we do know that very dangerous weapons are being used, which is why they shut down the El Paso airspace.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:28:36.0-00:28:42.7 opinion first hand

  1711. 1711

    Many people are leaking information to Ross Coulthart about the covert Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) operation.

    “And I think we're getting to the point now, so many people are leaking to me about this.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:28:51.1-00:28:54.5 observation first hand

  1712. 1712

    Jake Barber has given evidence to Congress regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) matters.

    “He has given evidence, by the way, to the Congress. I took him there. We actually took him to the Congress and he sat down with a committee and gave his evidence.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:29:27.5-00:29:36.3 testimony first hand

  1713. 1713

    Congress has Jake Barber's evidence and knows what he knows regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “So the Congress has Jake's evidence. They know what he knows.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:29:37.3-00:29:40.2 observation first hand

  1714. 1714

    There are people in Congress who claim to be pro-disclosure but are not genuinely supportive of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) disclosure.

    “The simple fact is there are a lot of people playing double games right now, claiming to be pro disclosure, especially in Congress. And frankly, they're bullshitting you.”

    Ross Coulthart Q&A: Skywatcher didn't disappear — it went government | Reality Check 2026-08-09 00:29:49.3-00:29:59.9 opinion first hand

  1715. 1715

    Ross Coulthart considers the war.gov/UFOs release an underwhelming release of documents and information that will not put the genie back in the bottle on the subject of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “If the Pentagon was hoping it could put the genie back into the bottle on the subject of UAPs by releasing such, quite frankly, an underwhelming release of documents and information, it's not going to work.”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:00:39.1-00:00:52.2 opinion first hand

  1716. 1716

    Mike Gold is a former NASA Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) study team member who now works with Redwire Space.

    “I was talking to former NASA study team member, Dr. Mike Gold, who's now with Redwire Space.”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:01:29.2-00:01:36.1 administrative second hand

  1717. 1717

    The terms of reference for NASA's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) study team limited the team's scope to aerial or terrestrial UAP.

    “he acknowledged to me that the terms of reference for NASA's study team limited them very much to aerial or terrestrial UAPs.”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:01:37.3-00:01:47.8 testimony second hand

  1718. 1718

    NASA's imagery from the Moon and from shuttle missions appears to have been excluded from the purview of NASA's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) study team.

    “The whole idea, the whole area of NASA's imagery from from the moon and from shuttle missions, seems to have been quite deftly excluded from the study team's purview.”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:01:49.3-00:02:01.0 opinion first hand

  1719. 1719

    Ross Coulthart wonders whether the exclusion of NASA's lunar and space shuttle imagery from the purview of NASA's Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) study team was deliberate.

    “And I wonder whether that was deliberate.”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:02:01.6-00:02:03.8 opinion first hand

  1720. 1720

    The images released in the war.gov/UFOs release could have used better quality imaging than what was published.

    “I think that they could have used better quality imaging or they could have released maybe better quality images to the public of the lunar UAP.”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:03:07.4-00:03:16.8 opinion first hand

  1721. 1721

    Bill Nelson, as NASA administrator, stated there was no evidence of any anomalous Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in any of NASA's imagery.

    “as the NASA administrator at the time, Bill Nelson basically said there was no evidence of any anomalous UAPs in any of the NASA imagery”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:07:04.1-00:07:13.4 testimony second hand

  1722. 1722

    Ross Coulthart considers it confirmed that objects associated with lunar anomalies were seen by astronauts on the surface of the Moon in the 1960s and 1970s.

    “we can now confirm for sure were seen by astronauts on the surface of the moon in the 1960s and the 1970s”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:14:59.2-00:15:06.3 opinion first hand

  1723. 1723

    In the STS-48 UAP incident footage, at least one projectile appears to move perpendicular to Space Shuttle Discovery (STS-48), moving in the direction of the main unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) of interest.

    “we see that it seems to be coming, or the projectiles, or at least one of them, seems to come perpendicular to the space shuttle, or it seems to at least move in the direction of the object of interest, the main UAP.”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:28:20.8-00:28:39.8 observation first hand

  1724. 1724

    Maaneli "Max" Derakhshani considers the motion of the main unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) of interest in the STS-48 UAP incident footage anomalous enough on its own to reveal properties that appear to defy conventional propulsion physics, regardless of the origin of the accompanying projectiles.

    “I would want to emphasize that the behavior of the main UAP of interest that we saw a moment ago is in itself anomalous enough that even if we don't know the origin of those projectiles, just by examining the motion of the main UAP, we can already deduce a number of anomalous properties that seem to defy um conventional propulsion physics as we know it”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:30:45.8-00:31:17.4 opinion first hand

  1725. 1725

    Maaneli "Max" Derakhshani considers that if the main unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) of interest in the STS-48 UAP incident footage is shown to be far from Space Shuttle Discovery (STS-48) and close to the horizon, its propulsive capabilities would be vastly beyond anything humans are capable of, either at the time or today.

    “The key in all of this is that if you can show that the main UAP of interest in the video is far from the shuttle and close to the horizon, then you can already show that the propulsive capabilities are vastly beyond anything that humans are capable of, either then or today.”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:34:28.3-00:34:49.0 opinion first hand

  1726. 1726

    According to a chart of calculated accelerations produced by Jack Kasher, if the main unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) of interest in the STS-48 UAP incident was approximately 1.6 kilometres from Space Shuttle Discovery (STS-48), the top acceleration was 10.5 g-forces.

    “if the UAP was one mile away from the shuttle, the top acceleration was 10 and a half g-forces”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:35:36.5-00:35:43.1 measurement second hand

  1727. 1727

    According to a chart of calculated accelerations produced by Jack Kasher, if the main unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) of interest in the STS-48 UAP incident was approximately 1.6 kilometres from Space Shuttle Discovery (STS-48), the final velocity reached was approximately 400 kilometres per hour.

    “final velocity of 250 miles per hour”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:35:45.7-00:35:48.4 measurement second hand

  1728. 1728

    According to a chart of calculated accelerations produced by Jack Kasher, if the main unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) of interest in the STS-48 UAP incident was at the horizon relative to Space Shuttle Discovery (STS-48), the acceleration would have to be 18,000 g-forces.

    “If it was at the horizon, then the acceleration would have to be 18,000 g's”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:35:50.4-00:35:55.6 measurement second hand

  1729. 1729

    According to a chart of calculated accelerations produced by Jack Kasher, if the main unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) of interest in the STS-48 UAP incident was at the horizon relative to Space Shuttle Discovery (STS-48), the final velocity reached was approximately 690,000 kilometres per hour.

    “a final velocity of around 430,000 miles per hour”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:35:56.2-00:36:00.6 measurement second hand

  1730. 1730

    Maaneli "Max" Derakhshani would like to determine whether the Defense Support Program (DSP) satellite system tracked a fastwalker at the precise location of the main unidentified aerial phenomenon (UAP) during the STS-48 UAP incident.

    “I would love someday to be able to see if the DSP satellite system tracked a fastwalker precisely where the main UAP and STS-48 was located at that time.”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:42:46.2-00:42:58.4 opinion first hand

  1731. 1731

    During the week of 2011-04, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) released some of its investigation records concerning unidentified flying objects (UFOs).

    “During the week of April 2011, FBI released some of its investigation recording records on UFOs.”

    What Did Apollo Astronauts Really See on the Moon? | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-10 00:54:32.6-00:54:38.5 administrative second hand

  1732. 1732

    Robert Bigelow met with Donald Trump and gave him help and ideas on UFO disclosure in an advisory capacity.

    “And then later was when I was with the president and was doing the disclosure advisory kind of thing with him and giving him some help and ideas and so on.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:01:06.9-00:01:18.0 testimony first hand

  1733. 1733

    Robert Bigelow considers his own UFO disclosure advocacy to be working against the direction already decided upon by the Pentagon.

    “I realized that that I was rowing upstream on this thing against the tide, and the tide was what the Pentagon had already decided they were going to do”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:01:19.7-00:01:31.4 opinion first hand

  1734. 1734

    Robert Bigelow considers the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to be a disguise and a probably fraudulent effort to squash UFO disclosure.

    “and what AARO actually meant as a disguise. probably a fraudulent effort to squash disclosure.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:01:31.9-00:01:42.9 opinion first hand

  1735. 1735

    Robert Bigelow considers it unfair to Donald Trump that the effort to squash UFO disclosure is going on behind his back.

    “And so I thought, well, this isn't fair to the president if this is going on behind his back.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:01:44.1-00:01:50.4 opinion first hand

  1736. 1736

    Lawrence Rockefeller convened a group at the Rockefeller Ranch at the base of the Grand Teton mountain range in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, to discuss the pros and cons of his position on UFO disclosure.

    “That's a photo of a group of us that Lawrence Rockefeller convened at the Rockefeller Ranch right at the base of the Grand Teton Mountain Range in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. And we were there to discuss the pros and cons of his position on disclosure way back then.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:03:27.6-00:03:48.2 testimony first hand

  1737. 1737

    Lawrence Rockefeller's position was to convince Bill Clinton, president at the time, to step up, produce the disclosure necessary about the UFO phenomena and admit that it exists.

    “And his take was to convince the president, which at the time was Bill Clinton, that he needed to step up and produce the disclosure that was necessary about the phenomena and admit that it exists.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:03:59.0-00:04:17.1 testimony first hand

  1738. 1738

    Robert Bigelow was not sure that Bill Clinton knew about the UFO phenomena.

    “I wasn't sure that he knew, that the president knew.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:04:18.9-00:04:21.6 testimony first hand

  1739. 1739

    A book quoted Bill Clinton as saying that before he left office he wanted to know who really killed John F. Kennedy and what all the UFO and extraterrestrial material was about.

    “And in there, President Clinton had said, before I leave office, I want to know who really killed JFK and what is all this UFO ET stuff all about?”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:04:51.0-00:05:02.9 hearsay second hand

  1740. 1740

    Lawrence Rockefeller was under the impression that Bill Clinton did know about UFOs and had been read in, and intended to convince him to admit it and participate in starting the disclosure process.

    “No, that he did know. He was read in. And he was going to try to convince him to confess, to admit, to participate in the disclosure process.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:06:34.3-00:06:47.8 testimony first hand

  1741. 1741

    In the introduction to his book, James Lacatski wrote that 2021-06-25 was a revolutionary day when the Office of the Director of National Intelligence made the long-awaited announcement that UFOs were real.

    “So he writes in the introduction here, on June 25, 2021, was a revolutionary day when the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, ODNI, made the long-awaited announcement that UFOs were real.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:07:57.7-00:08:14.0 administrative second hand

  1742. 1742

    The Office of the Director of National Intelligence released a report entitled Preliminary Assessment: Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, providing a sober assessment that UFOs were no longer to be ridiculed and mocked.

    “In releasing their report entitled Preliminary Assessment, Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, ODNI provided their sober assessments that UFOs no longer were to be ridiculed and mocked.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:08:23.0-00:08:39.6 administrative second hand

  1743. 1743

    Media coverage of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence UAP preliminary assessment included the statement that the phenomena being seen are not simply sensor artefacts but things that physically exist.

    “Part of the media coverage included statements like, we absolutely do believe that we're seeing not simply sensor artifacts. There are things that physically exist. They confirmed it.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:08:40.4-00:08:54.3 administrative second hand

  1744. 1744

    Robert Bigelow regards the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) as the tip of the sword in a government effort to push back against UFO disclosure.

    “AARO, which exists today, I think, as the tip of the sword, okay, in this effort by the government. ... To push back.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:09:43.0-00:09:52.2 opinion first hand

  1745. 1745

    Robert Bigelow is unsure how much Donald Trump knows about the government effort to push back against UFO disclosure, but believes he should know.

    “And I'm not sure how much the president today, Trump, knows about this, but he should.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:09:54.2-00:09:59.1 opinion first hand

  1746. 1746

    In his testimony on 2023-04-19, Sean Kirkpatrick underscored that only a very small percentage of UAP reports display signatures that could reasonably be described as anomalous.

    “I want to underscore today that only a very small percentage of UAP reports display signatures that could reasonably be described as anomalous.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:10:50.8-00:11:00.0 testimony third hand

  1747. 1747

    Robert Bigelow considers there to be a serious contamination pushing against UFO disclosure.

    “i think that we have a contamination here which is pushing against disclosure this serious, this really serious.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:12:07.8-00:12:16.2 opinion first hand

  1748. 1748

    George Knapp considers that there have been previous periods of deep public interest, serious media treatment and congressional questioning about UFOs, and that they tend to go away.

    “there have been periods like this in the past, you know, where the public is deeply interested, the media take the topic seriously, members of Congress are asking questions, you know, a push for some kind of transparency or disclosure, and they tend to go away.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:12:16.9-00:12:30.8 opinion first hand

  1749. 1749

    George Knapp considers that people in Donald Trump's own administration are doing their best to quash the UFO disclosure push, whether or not Trump knows it.

    “And yet people in his own administration, whether he knows it or not, are doing their best to quash it.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:12:37.0-00:12:41.7 opinion first hand

  1750. 1750

    Robert Bigelow considers that UFOs have national security implications and that Harry Reid was right about this.

    “this is this has national security implications because Harry Reid was was right. Senator Reid was right.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:12:42.9-00:12:49.0 opinion first hand

  1751. 1751

    The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) was a UFO programme.

    “And we were a UFO program.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:13:59.0-00:14:01.8 testimony first hand

  1752. 1752

    Robert Bigelow has been involved in UFO research for a long time at the highest levels, with government agencies, government officials and presidents.

    “you've been involved in UFO research for a long time at the highest levels with government agencies, government officials, presidents, et cetera.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:28:48.6-00:28:57.7 observation first hand

  1753. 1753

    Robert Bigelow has learned things about UFOs that he has not shared with the public.

    “You've learned a lot of things that you have not shared with the public.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:28:58.0-00:29:00.4 observation first hand

  1754. 1754

    George Knapp considers that consciousness has become a buzzword in UFO circles, invoked without explanation by people who do not understand how consciousness and UFOs are connected.

    “consciousness has become sort of a buzzword in UFO circles i hear it from people tossed out all the time they never explain it and i don't think they know their butt from a hole in the ground when they're trying to say that the two are connected”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:35:49.9-00:36:00.8 opinion first hand

  1755. 1755

    Robert Bigelow spoke to the president to gauge how much he knows about UFOs and whether he is aware that people in the executive branch are pushing back against his transparency proposals.

    “the fact that you talked to the president basic level you wanted to see how much he knows and especially i think you wanted to know is he aware that people who work for him in the executive branch are pushing back against his proposals for transparency”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:37:48.3-00:38:04.5 observation first hand

  1756. 1756

    Robert Bigelow has direct personal experience of executive-branch resistance to UFO transparency through the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP).

    “and you have direct personal experience with how that works because of the AAWSAP program”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:38:05.2-00:38:09.8 observation first hand

  1757. 1757

    Ted Stevens had had his own UFO sighting, an undeniably anomalous experience, and so was not difficult to convince of the subject's importance.

    “And Ted Stevens had already had his own sighting. So he wasn't difficult to convince, yeah, there's a lot to this. So he had a personal sighting experience, if you will, just something that was undeniably anomalous.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:40:10.0-00:40:23.9 testimony first hand

  1758. 1758

    Over the years Harry Reid had gathered indications that both Russia and China were involved in and heavily invested in UAP-based advanced technology research programmes.

    “Over the years, Reid had caught various straws in the wind that both Russia and China were involved with and heavily invested in UAP-based advanced technology research programs.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:45:08.0-00:45:21.3 observation second hand

  1759. 1759

    By May 2009, Harry Reid was concerned that the United States was asleep at the wheel on UAP-based advanced technology research.

    “By May of 2009, Reid was concerned that the United States was asleep at the wheel.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:45:25.9-00:45:31.1 observation second hand

  1760. 1760

    Harry Reid believed there was a grave danger that China and Russia, not similarly constrained, would make quantum leaps forward by exploiting UAP-based hardware and gain an irreversible technological advantage over the United States.

    “In Reid's mind, there was a grave danger that China and Russia, who were not similarly handcuffed, would succeed in taking quantum leaps forward from exploiting UAP-based hardware and thus gain an irreversible technological upper hand over the United States.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:45:34.7-00:45:56.0 opinion second hand

  1761. 1761

    Harry Reid came to regard the UFO subject as a national security matter, more serious than the risk of UFOs causing aircraft accidents, because the United States was falling further behind every decade.

    “And that's what bothered Harry... It's not just that UFOs could cause, you know, airplane accidents... but uh more seriously was that we are getting behind further and further every decade”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:46:43.0-00:46:55.3 observation first hand

  1762. 1762

    James Lacatski wrote up the proposal that became the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) without mentioning UFOs, Skinwalker Ranch or alien technology.

    “But his brilliance in writing up the program that became AAWSAP was, you don't mention UFOs. You're not going to mention werewolves or the ranch or alien technology.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:49:49.8-00:50:00.8 testimony first hand

  1763. 1763

    James Lacatski and Jay Stratton were each seeing startling UFO reports in their own areas at the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and concluded something needed to be done about it.

    “they both explained both in their own areas were seeing UFO reports that were startling. They kept seeing them over and over and they thought we need to do something about it.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:50:44.5-00:50:53.2 hearsay second hand

  1764. 1764

    After reading Hunt for the Skinwalker, James Lacatski and Jay Stratton concluded that Skinwalker Ranch was a place that could be studied with a reasonable chance of seeing UFOs.

    “And then they read Hunt for the Skinwalker and they thought Skinwalker Ranch is a place you could study. where you have a reasonable chance of seeing UFOs”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:50:53.3-00:51:01.4 hearsay second hand

  1765. 1765

    UFOs were the primary focus of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP), with everything else treated as fair game because it was connected.

    “But we had permission. Everything else was fair game. Because it was connected, too. And Lacatski knew that. It was connected.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:52:11.7-00:52:21.2 testimony first hand

  1766. 1766

    UFOs are abundant in the Uinta Basin, not only at Skinwalker Ranch but also at neighbouring ranches contiguous to it.

    “that's certainly anomalous in an area where UFOs are abundant in the Holy Uinta Basin. know not just that ranch but other sister ranches uh contiguous to the ranch and others”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:52:35.7-00:52:47.1 testimony first hand

  1767. 1767

    The publicly released Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP) contract documents are deliberately vague and do not mention UFOs, UAP, poltergeists or unconventional technology.

    “the contract that you signed the documents that have been out there they don't say UFOs, UAPs, poltergeists, unconventional technology there it's very vague on purpose”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 00:58:35.9-00:58:46.8 testimony first hand

  1768. 1768

    Robert Bigelow considers that people who report unidentified aerial phenomena encounters have not asked for anything, that they should not be harmed, and that those receiving their reports should be glad of the cooperation and information they bring.

    “It's that they haven't asked for anything. You should cause no harm. You should free them up. And you should be lucky to have the cooperation and all of the information that they bring to the table.”

    The Evolution of AAWSAP | Bigelow Podcast, Ep. 2 2026-08-11 01:10:27.9-01:10:47.8 opinion first hand

  1769. 1769

    James E. McDonald, as a scientist, is not entirely happy with taking hearsay evidence on Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) cases.

    “Certainly as a scientist, I am not entirely happy with taking hearsay evidence”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:00:00.0-00:00:06.1 opinion first hand

  1770. 1770

    James E. McDonald says it takes about an hour to do justice to any good Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) sighting report.

    “It takes about an hour, of course, to do justice to any good sighting”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:03:31.4-00:03:35.8 opinion first hand

  1771. 1771

    James E. McDonald considers that a soundless object hovering stationary in conditions that do not imply ball lightning rules out meteors as an explanation.

    “Soundless objects hovering stationary in conditions that do not imply ball lightning, rule out meteors.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:03:49.6-00:03:56.0 opinion first hand

  1772. 1772

    Barry Jones's Melbourne talkback radio programme took listener calls on the telephone number 638151 during James E. McDonald's appearance discussing Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

    “Talkback 638151. Professor James MacDonald, the University of Arizona, talking about unidentified flying objects. Let's hear from you on 638151.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:04:10.0-00:04:17.6 administrative first hand

  1773. 1773

    A woman calling Barry Jones's Melbourne talkback radio programme saw, on a clear night in December 1966, what she first took for a shooting star, which travelled straight across the sky rather than downwards, stopped for a few minutes, and then moved on towards the horizon.

    “just before Christmas last December, I saw... It was a clear night. I saw what I thought at first was a shooting star... But instead of sort of going down, it went straight across the sky in a straight line. ... it stopped for a little while, for a few minutes, and then it sort of went, started moving towards the horizon again after that.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:04:34.7-00:05:01.4 testimony second hand

  1774. 1774

    The unnamed woman calling Barry Jones's Melbourne talkback radio programme saw, in February 1967 with her mother-in-law and sister-in-law, two lights: the first appeared to hover, a second came up towards it as if in a rendezvous, then the second moved off to the horizon while the first stayed stationary.

    “in February, I saw, with my mother-in-law and sister-in-law, we saw two of them. And the first one sort of stopped. It sort of seemed to be hovering. And then we saw another one, and that came up towards the first one, and they appeared to be having some sort of rendezvous. And then the second one moved off into the horizon, and the first one just stayed there stationary.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:05:12.4-00:05:41.8 testimony second hand

  1775. 1775

    James E. McDonald considers reports in which the object is simply a light in the sky an extremely dangerous category with respect to misinterpretation.

    “this general category of observation in which it is simply a light in the sky is an extremely dangerous category with respect to misinterpretation”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:05:46.5-00:05:53.8 opinion first hand

  1776. 1776

    Many people in the United States, Australia and elsewhere report lights that move across the sky, hover, and exhibit manoeuvres that do not match meteors.

    “lots of persons in the US and Australia and elsewhere are making reports just like that of lights that move across, hover, exhibit maneuvers that do not at all match meteors.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:06:06.2-00:06:17.3 testimony first hand

  1777. 1777

    James E. McDonald says a reported light stopping in mid-course is not at all uncommon among Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) reports.

    “The stopping that you described is not at all uncommon.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:06:17.7-00:06:20.0 opinion first hand

  1778. 1778

    James E. McDonald says helicopters and aircraft can mislead observers at night, and that a hovering light requires a helicopter if it is to be conventional.

    “Helicopters, aircraft, of course, you have to have a helicopter if you're going to have it hover, can mislead us at night.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:06:33.6-00:06:41.0 opinion first hand

  1779. 1779

    James E. McDonald considers that light-in-the-sky reports are not the category on which strong conclusions about the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) problem should now be built.

    “this category of report is not the one on which the strong conclusions need now to be built.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:07:03.5-00:07:10.1 opinion first hand

  1780. 1780

    A Melbourne taxi driver calling Barry Jones's talkback radio programme saw, about five years before 1967, a stationary cylindrical silvery object hovering in the sky while driving a passenger westwards towards the city near East Melbourne at about 9:00 a.m.

    “I was driving a cab about five years ago. ... this was down in um oh that bit that runs uh parallel with victoria street there kind of a shortcut up to east melbourne ... it was around about nine o'clock in the morning ... there was a a definite object there hovering in the sky uh cylindrical in in um in shape and uh silvery color”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:07:38.9-00:07:58.7 testimony second hand

  1781. 1781

    The unnamed Melbourne taxi driver calling Barry Jones's talkback radio programme said the object he saw over East Melbourne had no wings of any sort and was cylindrical.

    “James E. MacDonald: You saw no wings of any sort on the object? Speaker 7: No, no. It was a cylindrical object.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:09:19.5-00:09:23.1 observation second hand

  1782. 1782

    James E. McDonald says that when he asks witnesses why they did not report a sighting, the common answers are fear of ridicule or reluctance to have the account sensationalised.

    “very commonly, the answer is either, no, I didn't report it, fear of ridicule or a little reluctance to have it sensationalized or so on is involved.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:11:11.7-00:11:20.0 testimony first hand

  1783. 1783

    James E. McDonald says witnesses commonly report a sighting to the press or official channels, meet scepticism and a ridiculing rebuke, and then hear nothing more, a pattern occurring in both the United States and Australia.

    “One reports it to someone and press or official channels and a certain amount of skepticism leads to a ridiculous rebuke of some sort and then nothing more is heard.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:11:25.8-00:11:35.3 opinion first hand

  1784. 1784

    James E. McDonald says there are Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) cases in which dozens of people have seen objects of an unconventional sort.

    “there are cases where dozens of people have seen objects of unconventional sort”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:11:44.8-00:11:49.9 testimony first hand

  1785. 1785

    James E. McDonald found on his 1967 tour that the pattern of general rejection of the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject by people with almost no knowledge of it is essentially the same in Australia as in the United States.

    “That's one of the many patterns that I find in my trip down here that's essentially the same in Australia as in the States. A general rejection of this by persons who usually have almost no knowledge of it but who realize that it sounds at first glance like a lot of nonsense and who jump to that conclusion.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:12:37.1-00:12:53.0 opinion first hand

  1786. 1786

    James E. McDonald considers that when people who reject the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject work in the press or radio, they filter out much information that should be reaching scientific channels.

    “And when these people are in paper press or radio and so on, they tend to filter out a lot of the information that should be getting into scientific channels.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:12:53.9-00:13:00.9 opinion first hand

  1787. 1787

    James E. McDonald considers the main difficulty with Carl Gustav Jung's psychological archetype explanation of flying saucers to be that Jung was not addressing the real Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) problem but psychotic types with a psychic need to believe.

    “The main difficulty is Jung was not at all addressing himself to what is the real UFO problem. He is talking about psychotic types who have some kind of psychic needs to believe.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:13:31.2-00:13:40.8 opinion first hand

  1788. 1788

    James E. McDonald says a cult and crackpot fringe, very visible particularly in America, has formed around the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject, including people who believe a salvation message is being brought from Venus.

    “one does see this sort of thing emerging in the cult and crackpot fringe, which is unfortunately very visible, particularly in America, centered around the UFO problem. People who feel that there's a salvation message being brought from Venus and all that sort of rot.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:13:41.8-00:13:53.6 opinion first hand

  1789. 1789

    There are many Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) cases in which animals such as dogs, horses and cows are present and react.

    “There are lots of cases where animals are present, dogs, horses, cows, and so on.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:14:12.0-00:14:16.1 testimony first hand

  1790. 1790

    On 1967-06-07, James E. McDonald spoke to the United Nations Outer Space Affairs Group about the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) problem and submitted formal statements urging United Nations action on it.

    “On the 7th of June, I was at the United Nations speaking to the Outer Space Affairs Group about the UFO problem, submitted some formal statements to them, urging UN action on the UFO problem.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:15:58.7-00:16:11.5 testimony first hand

  1791. 1791

    U Thant, in an exchange with Drew Pearson roughly four to six days before James E. McDonald's Melbourne talkback radio appearance in 1967, said the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) problem is probably the most important international problem, with the present exception of the Vietnam War.

    “Subsequently, however, in some kind of an exchange with Drew Pearson, U Thant made a statement now about four or five days ago, I guess six days ago, that the UFO problem is probably the most important international problem, with the present exception of the Vietnam War.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:16:15.3-00:16:32.3 testimony third hand

  1792. 1792

    James E. McDonald considers U Thant's statement on Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) interesting and somewhat striking.

    “rather interesting and somewhat striking statement.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:16:33.3-00:16:35.9 opinion first hand

  1793. 1793

    James E. McDonald cabled U Thant a reply endorsing his statement but disagreeing to the extent that, in McDonald's opinion, the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) problem is of even greater international importance than the Vietnamese situation.

    “I cabled U Thant a reply, endorsing the statement, but disagreeing to the extent of saying that, in my opinion, the UFO problem is probably even greater in international importance than the Vietnamese situation.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:16:36.3-00:16:50.4 opinion first hand

  1794. 1794

    James E. McDonald considers the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) problem to be apparently a global-scale problem.

    “let's hope that since it is apparently a global scale problem”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:16:52.6-00:16:55.0 opinion first hand

  1795. 1795

    James E. McDonald hoped that United Nations scientific groups would take up the UFO problem, given the Australian evidence added to the American evidence and much other clearly attested evidence.

    “vidence added to the American evidence and much, much other evidence clearly attested that, let's hope that UN scientific groups will get right onto it.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:16:57.4-00:17:06.2 opinion first hand

  1796. 1796

    In the Wairakei flying saucer sighting by a surveying engineer around 1957, the anonymous engineer caller and his Maori survey assistant both independently saw a grey object rise vertically out of the steam bores over on the horizon.

    “we both quite independently saw this grey object which for want of a better name I'll call a flying saucer, which arose out of the steam board the way over on the horizon, went vertically upwards”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:18:14.3-00:18:28.0 testimony second hand

  1797. 1797

    The anonymous engineer who reported the circa 1957 Wairakei sighting was extremely sceptical of flying saucers and UFOs before his own sighting, and afterwards believed most reports while remaining sceptical of some.

    “before I sighted this thing, I was extremely skeptical of flying saucers or UFOs myself ... since then, I do believe most, although I'm still skeptical of some.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:20:54.8-00:21:07.0 opinion second hand

  1798. 1798

    James E. McDonald was sceptical of UFO reports until he began to look at what he described as the almost incredibly large volumes of good reports.

    “I was skeptical, too, until I began to look at the almost incredibly large volumes of good reports.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:21:11.6-00:21:16.5 testimony first hand

  1799. 1799

    The official position of the United States Air Force on UFOs is that the subject is a lot of nonsense and a burdensome duty the Air Force is unable to get away from.

    “The official position is that it's a lot of nonsense, burdensome duty that the Air Force is unable to get away with.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:22:01.0-00:22:07.3 testimony first hand

  1800. 1800

    Expertise to examine the UFO problem exists at the disposal of the United States Air Force, but James E. McDonald found on investigation that it is not being used and has not been used for 15 years.

    “There is expertise at the disposal of the American Air Force, but when you go digging, as I have, you find it just isn't being used and hasn't been used for 15 years.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:22:13.6-00:22:20.3 testimony first hand

  1801. 1801

    James E. McDonald spent about 12 to 13 months in the United States interviewing witnesses in key UFO cases before his 1967 Australasian tour.

    “I've spent about 12-13 months in the States in interviewing witnesses in key cases, attempting to unravel this very puzzling and very intriguing mystery.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:27:38.2-00:27:51.0 testimony first hand

  1802. 1802

    Large numbers of UFO reports appear in the publications of private UFO investigating groups in England, America, Australia and France indicating that sightings of essentially the same type occur in other parts of the world.

    “it turns out that there are large numbers of reports in the publications of various private UFO investigating groups in England, America, Australia, France, and so on, that quite clearly indicate that”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:28:03.3-00:28:18.4 testimony second hand

  1803. 1803

    The picture of UFO sightings in Australia, New Zealand and Tasmania, including observations of unconventional objects manoeuvring sometimes within tens to hundreds of metres of credible observers, is not appreciably different from that in the United States.

    “The picture in Australia, with respect to UFO sightings, observations of unconventional objects maneuvering, sometimes quite close to ground, sometimes within tens to hundreds of feet of very credible, reliable observers, is just not appreciably different in Australia, New Zealand, and Tasmania from what it is in the States.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:29:00.2-00:29:27.1 testimony first hand

  1804. 1804

    James E. McDonald found a little evidence suggesting there may be somewhat more UFO sightings per unit area or per head of population in Australia than in the United States, but would not stand firmly on that impression.

    “There's just a little bit of evidence that indicates to me there may even be a few more sightings per square mile or per capita here than in the States. But I wouldn't stand firmly on that feeling that I've gotten.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:29:31.0-00:29:46.9 opinion first hand

  1805. 1805

    There is a great reluctance among witnesses to report UFO sightings, equally in Australia and the United States, because people have been ridiculed by official groups, the press, radio, television and scientists, which has driven the problem underground.

    “There's a great deal of reluctance to report them. That's exactly the same in the States as it seems to be down here. People have been ridiculed and made fun of by official groups, by press and radio and television, and scientists too. ... that's driven the problem underground.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:30:40.8-00:30:57.0 testimony first hand

  1806. 1806

    A woman interviewed by James E. McDonald described her UFO case in detail to a reporter, who asked her why she did not use more water in what she had been drinking, leaving her incensed.

    “One woman that I interviewed not so long ago pointed out that she described her case in some detail. The reporter asked her why she didn't use more water in what she's been drinking. She was quite incensed and I would agree with that.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:31:26.9-00:31:40.9 testimony second hand

  1807. 1807

    James E. McDonald concluded that the UFO problem has been completely lost sight of in America, and that the large sums of money apparently at the United States Air Force's disposal are misconstrued elsewhere in the world as indicating a very large and thorough study of the problem, which is absolutely incorrect.

    “with a conclusion that this problem has been completely lost sight of in America ... the large amounts of money that seem to be at the disposal of our Air Force are misconstrued as indicating we've probably done a very large, very extensive, very thorough study of the problem. That is absolutely incorrect.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:33:27.1-00:33:51.8 opinion first hand

  1808. 1808

    Thousands of UFO cases on record in the United States involve cigar-shaped objects and discs, sometimes hovering at very low altitude.

    “the type of sightings that are on record, thousands of cases in the U.S., involve cigar-shaped objects, disks, hovering sometimes at very low altitude.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:33:54.3-00:34:05.9 testimony first hand

  1809. 1809

    UFO reports include scientifically inexplicable phenomena involving very high accelerations.

    “Many inexplicable, scientifically inexplicable, baffling phenomena, very high accelerations.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:34:13.2-00:34:19.3 testimony first hand

  1810. 1810

    UFO reports include high-speed objects moving without any obvious sonic booms, though some unexplained sonic booms could be caused by UFOs.

    “sometimes high-speed objects moving without any obvious sonic booms, though I'd hasten to interject that sometimes there are unexplained sonic booms that could be UFOs”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:34:20.6-00:34:32.1 testimony first hand

  1811. 1811

    UFO reports include many peculiar luminous phenomena, some of them in Australia which James E. McDonald expects will baffle every scientist who examines them.

    “many peculiar luminous phenomena, and Some of them down in Australia will really baffle every scientist who ever takes a look at these.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:34:33.5-00:34:44.3 opinion first hand

  1812. 1812

    Mainly cigar-shaped and disc-shaped objects are reported manoeuvring in airspace and are written off by official groups as non-existent, as though the witnesses were untrustworthy people seeing things.

    “mainly cigar-shaped objects and disc-shaped objects maneuvering in our airspace and written off by official groups as non-existent, just as if it was a lot of nuts seeing things, a lot of people who can't be trusted.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:34:46.6-00:35:02.5 opinion first hand

  1813. 1813

    A visible cultist and crackpot fringe has grown up around the UFO problem in the United States, which discolours the subject and puts many scientists off.

    “in the United States, there's a very annoyingly visible cultist crackpot fringe that's grown up around the problem, That discolors it and puts a lot of scientists off.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:35:15.4-00:35:25.1 opinion first hand

  1814. 1814

    Some UFO reports are completely sincere misidentifications of planets, ball lightning, fireballs, other luminous phenomena and even aircraft.

    “there are completely sincere misidentifications of planets and planets, and Balls, lightning, fireballs, luminous phenomena one time or another, even aircraft and so on.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:35:27.9-00:35:42.6 opinion first hand

  1815. 1815

    Experienced private UFO investigating groups work in Sydney, Melbourne, Tasmania and other parts of the world, as distinct from the official groups, whose explanations James E. McDonald finds outrageously absurd.

    “experienced investigators such as those that have been working in Sydney and Melbourne and Tasmania and in other parts of the world, these are private investigating groups, not the official groups. The official groups ... come out with such outrageously absurd explanations”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:35:43.8-00:36:00.5 opinion first hand

  1816. 1816

    The Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) sightings being investigated during the James E. McDonald 1967 Australia, New Zealand and Tasmania UFO investigation tour include unconventional phenomena that are not a product of Australian, Russian or English technology.

    “these are sightings that are being investigated include a lot of quite unconventional phenomena that are not any product of our technology or Australia or Russian or English technology”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:36:09.4-00:36:23.1 opinion first hand

  1817. 1817

    James E. McDonald considers the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) sightings he investigated not to be plasma phenomena.

    “They are not plasma phenomena”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:36:23.7-00:36:25.2 opinion first hand

  1818. 1818

    James E. McDonald considers the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) sightings he investigated not to be sun dogs or pelicans.

    “they are not Sun dogs and pelicans and all the rest of the things that one hears about”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:36:25.8-00:36:31.3 opinion first hand

  1819. 1819

    James E. McDonald considers Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) to be beyond the present pale of science.

    “They are beyond the present pale of science”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:36:32.1-00:36:34.6 opinion first hand

  1820. 1820

    James E. McDonald considers Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) to be ignored by science and by official groups, and holds that this must change very rapidly.

    “they're being ignored by science being ignored by official groups and that has got to change very very rapidly”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:36:35.4-00:36:42.8 opinion first hand

  1821. 1821

    James E. McDonald considers the question of what the Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) are, once fireballs and planets have been set aside, to be the ultimately important question, and not easy to answer.

    “And that, of course, is the ultimately important question. Not easy to offer an answer.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:36:57.1-00:37:04.2 opinion first hand

  1822. 1822

    During the year preceding 1967, James E. McDonald worked through the psychological, advanced-technology, hoax, fabrication, fraud and poorly-understood-geophysical-phenomena hypotheses for Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

    “When you look at these various hypotheses, psychological, advanced technology, hoax, fabrication, fraud, poorly understood geophysical phenomena, you run through all of those. This is certainly what I've done in the past year of checking.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:37:12.6-00:37:31.8 testimony first hand

  1823. 1823

    James E. McDonald concluded that the seemingly absurd and seemingly improbable hypothesis, that Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) may be coming from somewhere else, is what one ends up with after eliminating the other hypotheses.

    “You find yourself ending up with the seemingly absurd, seemingly improbable hypothesis These things may be coming from somewhere else.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:37:33.1-00:37:44.6 opinion first hand

  1824. 1824

    James E. McDonald considers that everything known about the astronomy and planetary meteorology of the solar system argues against an origin for Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) within the solar system.

    “All that we know about the astronomy and planetary meteorology of the solar system seems to argue against a planetary, that is, intrasolar system origin of the objects.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:37:51.2-00:38:02.7 opinion first hand

  1825. 1825

    Everything known about the structure of the galaxy makes clear that the next nearest possible source of origin for Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) is an embarrassing number of light years away.

    “All that we know about the structure of the galaxy makes quite clear that the next nearest source of origin is quite an embarrassing number of light years away.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:38:04.0-00:38:15.7 opinion first hand

  1826. 1826

    James E. McDonald considers that, while advanced civilisations elsewhere in the galaxy are generally granted, nobody grants that such civilisations could reach Earth, and this blocks further thought on Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

    “But what nobody grants and what everybody stalls on and blocks their further thoughts on with respect to UFOs is nobody thinks they can get here.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:40:31.6-00:40:42.0 opinion first hand

  1827. 1827

    After examining Australian, American and other sightings, the credibility of the observers and the content of the observations, James E. McDonald concluded that Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) boil down to machine-like craft of some kind.

    “looking at Australian, American and other sightings, examining the credibility of the observers looking at the content of these observations, I'm afraid that it boils down to to craft of some kind machine-like objects”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:40:58.9-00:41:14.7 opinion first hand

  1828. 1828

    James E. McDonald considers that the machine-like objects reported as Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) have been around for 20 years, ignored, swept aside and ridiculed by scientists, with the result that all those years have been scientifically wasted.

    “machine-like objects that have been around for 20 years, ignored by all of us scientists, swept aside and ridiculed, and nobody has any good knowledge of this problem. All these years have been wasted scientifically.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:41:13.9-00:41:28.7 opinion first hand

  1829. 1829

    James E. McDonald holds that the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) problem must be taken up immediately on a global scale using the world's best scientific talent, not only that of the United States or Australia.

    “We've got to get at this right away. We've got to get on it on a global scale. And with the best scientific talent, not just in United States or not just in Australia but the world's best scientific talent has to get on that.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:41:30.0-00:41:44.7 opinion first hand

  1830. 1830

    In mid-1967, James E. McDonald presented a statement to the United Nations Outer Space Affairs Group urging immediate United Nations action on the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) problem.

    “I spoke along these lines only a short time ago this summer in the United Nations at the outer space affairs group presented a statement to the outer space affairs group urging immediate UN action on the problem”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:41:46.6-00:42:04.0 testimony first hand

  1831. 1831

    United Nations Secretary-General U Thant, in a statement to Drew Pearson shortly before 1967, said the problem of Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) is the greatest international problem second only to the Vietnam War, as relayed by James E. McDonald.

    “But Only A Very Short Time Ago, A Very Interesting Statement Was Made By U Thant To Drew Pearson That The Problem Of The UFOs. Now this is the Secretary General of the United Nations speaking, saying that the problem of the UFOs is the greatest international problem second only to the present one of the Vietnam War.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:42:31.2-00:42:54.1 hearsay third hand

  1832. 1832

    James E. McDonald considers U Thant's statement about Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) being the greatest international problem after the Vietnam War very interesting.

    “I think that's very interesting.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:42:54.4-00:42:55.8 opinion first hand

  1833. 1833

    James E. McDonald cabled United Nations Secretary-General U Thant from Australia to endorse his statement on Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs), while expressing disagreement with part of it.

    “I cabled Secretary-General U Thant and strongly endorsed his statement, except I expressed disagreement.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:43:02.7-00:43:09.8 testimony first hand

  1834. 1834

    James E. McDonald considers the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) problem to be the greatest scientific problem and the greatest international problem facing the world, ranking it above the position U Thant gave it.

    “In my opinion, the UFO problem is the greatest scientific problem, the greatest international problem that stands before us.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:43:10.6-00:43:19.9 opinion first hand

  1835. 1835

    James E. McDonald hoped to see the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) problem elevated to the status of the greatest scientific and international problem very quickly.

    “And I am hoping to see it elevated to that status in a very great hurry.”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 00:43:20.6-00:43:26.8 opinion first hand

  1836. 1836

    The unnamed Melbourne taxi driver calling Barry Jones's talkback radio programme said the cylindrical silvery object over East Melbourne disappeared suddenly.

    “And it disappeared all of a sudden. ... it just took off in a just flashed off and that was the end of it”

    UFOs in Australia – Eyewitnesses Talk to Dr. James E. McDonald During His Investigative Tour (1967) 2026-08-11 lines 299-320 observation second hand

  1837. 1837

    There was a lot of UFO and paranormal research going on in the Soviet Union at the time the Merivalja object was investigated.

    “there was a lot of UFO or paranormal research going on in the Soviet Union at that time.”

    Object M: The buried Estonian mystery the KGB spent years trying to reach | Reality Check 2026-08-11 00:16:13.0-00:16:20.8 administrative first hand

  1838. 1838

    Alexander Deyev worked for a top secret Soviet UFO investigation team headed by physicist Felix Siegel.

    “he ended up working for a top secret Soviet UFO investigation team headed by a physicist, Felix Siegel.”

    Object M: The buried Estonian mystery the KGB spent years trying to reach | Reality Check 2026-08-11 00:25:58.5-00:26:07.5 administrative

  1839. 1839

    Ross Coulthart considers Donald Trump's initiative in releasing and declassifying UAP files a positive sign to be applauded, and considers it clear from the released files that there was no reason they could not have been released much earlier.

    “it is a positive sign, and it's to be applauded that the president has shown such initiative on releasing and declassifying UAP files that, frankly, when you look at them, there's absolutely no reason, it's quite clear now, there's no reason why they couldn't have been released a lot earlier than today.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:01:34.2-00:01:52.1 opinion first hand

  1840. 1840

    Luis Elizondo is a former Pentagon UAP programme investigator.

    “Lou Elizondo, the former Pentagon UAP program investigator”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:03:31.6-00:03:35.3 administrative

  1841. 1841

    Ross Coulthart does not think films such as Disclosure Day negatively affect the seriousness of the UAP topic, and considers Disclosure Day a great film.

    “Actually, no, I don't. I think Disclosure Day is a great film.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:09:29.3-00:09:32.0 opinion first hand

  1842. 1842

    Ross Coulthart hopes Steven Spielberg's film Disclosure Day will popularise the idea of UAP disclosure and allay much of the stigma and taboo around it.

    “I think Steven Spielberg's film will hopefully popularize and allay a lot of the stigma and the taboo about the idea of disclosure.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:11:09.6-00:11:19.3 opinion first hand

  1843. 1843

    Redaction of released UAP videos is warranted to avoid revealing the surveillance capabilities of aircraft such as predator drones to potential foreign adversaries.

    “we don't want to reveal the capabilities of predator drones, aircraft that have surveillance capabilities, because that tells potential foreign adversaries. the capabilities of our surveillance technology.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:16:16.4-00:16:27.8 opinion first hand

  1844. 1844

    Ross Coulthart considers the released UAP videos next to useless as scientific data because the associated data on the objects' movements has been redacted, so apparent instantaneous acceleration or hypersonic speed cannot be assessed.

    “they're next to useless as scientific data because there's no data associated with them that gives us any idea about the movements for example when you see something that looks like instantaneous acceleration or hypersonic speed on some of those videos you really can't tell because all of the data has been redacted”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:16:45.9-00:17:06.0 opinion first hand

  1845. 1845

    Ross Coulthart considers that the United States government is taking the steam out of the disclosure debate by very slowly trickling data into the public domain that makes the reality of the phenomenon increasingly unquestionable.

    “It's taking the steam out of the disclosure debate by very, very slowly trickling out into the public domain data that makes it, I think, increasingly unquestionable that there is a phenomenon there that is real.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:17:50.2-00:18:04.6 opinion first hand

  1846. 1846

    A viewer named Michael, writing from Chile to Reality Check with Ross Coulthart, said he has no doubt that UAP exist and that their technology has been reverse engineered for decades, and asked whether the public will learn about the energy sources discovered.

    “I have no doubt in my heart, thanks to you and others like you, that UAP exists and that their technology has been being reverse engineered for decades now. So the most important question is really, will we know about the energy sources that must have been discovered”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:18:35.6-00:18:48.6 opinion second hand

  1847. 1847

    Matthew Tuttle has started an exchange-traded fund focused on UFO disclosure, bundling stocks, commodities and bonds tied to UFO-related technology that might give investors an advantage.

    “who has actually started up an exchange trading fund looking at UFO disclosure. He's decided it's time to put together an investment fund that bundles together stocks, commodities, bonds that have UFO related technology that might give investors an advantage by investing in it.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:20:16.3-00:20:38.0 administrative

  1848. 1848

    Ross Coulthart strongly doubts that UAP disclosure would destroy the American economy, citing America's resilience and its history of recovering from the Second World War and the Great Depression.

    “Is it going to destroy the American economy? I strongly doubt it. One of the things about America is its resilience and its capacity to bounce back from disasters. as it did in the Second World War, as it did in the Great Depression.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:20:52.7-00:21:05.9 opinion first hand

  1849. 1849

    Ross Coulthart is not sure whether the small-scale disclosure coming from The White House via the war.gov UFO files website is the beginning of a broader disclosure.

    “maybe what's happening with the currently very small D disclosure that's coming from the White House with the war.gov slash UFO's website. Maybe that's the beginning of a broader disclosure. I'm not so sure.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:22:15.1-00:22:27.5 opinion first hand

  1850. 1850

    Ross Coulthart considers there is pushback against UAP disclosure from the intelligence community, the Defense Department, and particularly from private aerospace and some of the top 100 companies.

    “I still think that there's pushback from the intelligence community, from the Defense Department, and particularly from private aerospace and some of those big top 100 companies.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:22:28.5-00:22:38.6 opinion first hand

  1851. 1851

    Ross Coulthart has had it confirmed to him by a source that extraordinarily clear, high-resolution UAP imagery, including the Boeing B-52 Stratofortress cockpit footage of a disc with visible occupants, is held by the United States government and not yet released.

    “I've had it confirmed to me that there are these and other extraordinarily clear high resolution imageries that are not yet being released by the government.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:23:19.5-00:23:29.1 hearsay second hand

  1852. 1852

    Ross Coulthart considers the material published on the war.gov UFO files website to be bits and pieces released to keep the public entertained rather than substantive disclosure.

    “what we're being given on the war.gov slash UFO's website is frankly bits and pieces for the chooks just to keep us happy, to keep us entertained.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:23:31.9-00:23:41.1 opinion first hand

  1853. 1853

    Interest in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) subject has taken the United States Department of War and the White House by surprise because of how motivated people are to get at the truth.

    “It has taken the Department of War and the White House by surprise that people are so motivated to get to the truth of this.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:24:02.4-00:24:10.0 opinion first hand

  1854. 1854

    Ross Coulthart has been told there are many further classified videos of anomalous phenomena beyond those already released.

    “And yes, I'm told there are many such videos.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:24:10.3-00:24:13.6 hearsay second hand

  1855. 1855

    Ross Coulthart spoke the day before the 2026-08-11 recording to someone who was principally involved in helping get the UAP videos provided to the United States Congress to Congress.

    “I've spoken as recently as yesterday to someone who was principally involved in helping get the videos that were provided to Congress to Congress.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:24:26.3-00:24:35.4 testimony first hand

  1856. 1856

    People inside the United States national security complex are acting bravely to ensure the public hears what is going on regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “And they are people inside the national security complex who are doing brave and courageous things to make sure that you, the public, get to hear what's going on.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:24:36.2-00:24:46.0 opinion first hand

  1857. 1857

    Ross Coulthart believes many videos of anomalous phenomena remain held by people in the intelligence community who hope they never become public.

    “I think a lot of these videos are still sitting in cupboards with a lot of people from the intelligence community hoping they never see the light of day.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:24:49.2-00:24:58.3 opinion first hand

  1858. 1858

    An undeclassified 4K video known to Luis Elizondo puts the issue of anomalous phenomena and the five observables well beyond doubt.

    “He talked about a 4K video that he's aware of that still hasn't been declassified that puts the issue of anomalous phenomena, the five observables, well beyond doubt.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:25:07.2-00:25:20.0 testimony second hand

  1859. 1859

    The Red Book is alleged to be a detailed summary of all United States UFO and UAP crash investigations from 1947 onwards, alien contacts, crash retrievals, national security implications and trends in sightings.

    “And it's allegedly a detailed summary of all US UFO UAP crash investigations from 1947 onwards, alien contacts, crash retrievals, national security implications, trends in sightings.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:27:46.6-00:28:00.0 hearsay second hand

  1860. 1860

    Ross Coulthart knows that data is kept on what the United States knows about the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) phenomenon, though he does not know whether it is called The Yellow Book or The Red Book.

    “I certainly know that there is data kept on what the US knows about this phenomenon. I don't know if it's called the yellow book or the red book”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:29:03.2-00:29:13.0 testimony first hand

  1861. 1861

    Tom DeLonge made one statement on Instagram recently but has otherwise been quiet in recent years on the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) topic.

    “Tom DeLonge bar one statement on instagram recently has been quiet in recent years on the topic”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:29:23.6-00:29:28.2 testimony second hand

  1862. 1862

    Tom DeLonge remains engaged and interested in the Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) subject and never let it go.

    “Tom is still very much engaged and interested in the UFO subject. He never let it go.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:30:03.4-00:30:08.7 testimony first hand

  1863. 1863

    Ross Coulthart began investigating Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs) with the intention of debunking the topic.

    “i have heard you say several times that you began investigating UFOs with the intention of debunking the topic”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:30:22.8-00:30:27.6 testimony second hand

  1864. 1864

    Ross Coulthart wrote letters to people he assumed might know something about The Legacy Program, and the responses were the most significant thing that changed his mind about Unidentified Flying Objects (UFOs).

    “probably the most significant was as a result of a whole lot of letters that I wrote to people who I just assumed might know something about the legacy program if it existed.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:30:39.0-00:30:49.9 testimony first hand

  1865. 1865

    Wright-Patterson Air Force Base is the most mythologised air force base in United States UFO history.

    “Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, the most mythologized Air Force Base in US UFO history.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:32:45.4-00:32:52.4 opinion first hand

  1866. 1866

    Nat Kobitz told Ross Coulthart privately that there is no good reason why the American public should not know the truth about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “And I can only reiterate what he told me privately. There is no good reason why the American public shouldn't know the truth, which is why he shared what he shared with me”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:34:32.8-00:34:46.5 opinion second hand

  1867. 1867

    Ross Coulthart does not expect a slowing down in what is now a very wacky and wild ride in Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) research.

    “And I don't think we're going to see a slowing down in what is now a very wacky and wild ride in UAP research.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:35:36.7-00:35:45.6 opinion first hand

  1868. 1868

    Ross Coulthart hopes another tranche of the UFO files is released soon and that it is less underwhelming than the releases to date.

    “He is hoping we get another UFO files tranche soon and that it's more overwhelming or less underwhelming than what we've seen to date.”

    Ross Coulthart Answers Your Biggest UAP Questions | Reality Check with Ross Coulthart 2026-08-11 00:35:46.6-00:35:55.9 opinion first hand

  1869. 1869

    David Grusch considers that half of the classified information about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena should not be classified, and that humanity has a right to know basic facts about different types of life.

    “realizing this information, half of it shouldn't be classified. Humanity has a right to know certain basic facts about, you know, different types of life”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:03:46.7-00:03:56.3 opinion first hand

  1870. 1870

    Phil McGraw considers that the United States government's method of operation has been to hide Unidentified Aerial Phenomena information from the country going back as far as 1947.

    “I guess the MO has been to hide this from the country going back as far as 1947, the Robertson panel”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:04:26.4-00:04:35.2 opinion first hand

  1871. 1871

    While publicly telling the American people there was nothing to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena, the United States government was simultaneously spending large amounts of money and dedicating large resources to investigating the phenomenon and keeping that secret.

    “When they would say that and then simultaneously be spending huge amounts of money, dedicating huge resources to trying to figure out what's going on while they're telling the American people, eh, nothing to it, move along, nothing to see here.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:04:42.5-00:04:58.7 opinion first hand

  1872. 1872

    Phil McGraw is furious that the United States government has been lying to the American public for 79 years about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.

    “the first thing I said about this when those documents came out was our government's been lying to us for 79 years and I'm furious about that.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:05:05.0-00:05:14.4 opinion first hand

  1873. 1873

    The 1953 Robertson Panel changed the tone of official handling of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena and developed a systematic ridicule process while the United States government secretly took the subject very seriously.

    “the 1953 Robertson panel kind of changed the tone and developed a systematic ridicule process while the government was secretly taking this very seriously”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:05:24.5-00:05:32.9 testimony first hand

  1874. 1874

    Recently released document tranches include documents from the late 1940s and early 1950s showing how seriously the United States Air Force and United States Navy were taking Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.

    “what we saw in some of the recent tranches was documents from early 50s, late 40s, showing how serious the Air Force, the Navy, et cetera, were taking this”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:05:33.5-00:05:42.6 testimony second hand

  1875. 1875

    In the released late-1940s and early-1950s documents, investigators ruled out classified United States programmes as an explanation for the observed phenomena.

    “They ruled out classified US programs.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:05:43.2-00:05:45.1 testimony second hand

  1876. 1876

    In the released late-1940s and early-1950s documents, investigators ruled out foreign programmes pursued by other countries as an explanation for the observed phenomena.

    “They ruled out foreign programs that other countries were pursuing.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:05:45.7-00:05:49.8 testimony second hand

  1877. 1877

    David Grusch considers that once classified United States programmes and foreign programmes are ruled out, the remaining explanations for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena are natural phenomena or some other anomalous intelligence that is not understood.

    “Obviously, what's left is either natural phenomenon or some other anomalous intelligence that we don't understand.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:05:51.0-00:05:56.2 opinion first hand

  1878. 1878

    The United States government buried its serious interest in Unidentified Aerial Phenomena behind the scenes while running Project Blue Book, which explained the phenomenon away as prosaic causes such as ball lightning and swamp gas.

    “the government had taken it seriously and kind of buried it behind the scenes while engaging in activities like Project Blue Book, et cetera, explaining away the phenomenon as something prosaic, ball lightning, you know, swamp gas very famously, right? And, and of course, that wasn't true.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:05:57.6-00:06:16.4 testimony first hand

  1879. 1879

    The United States government formed a material recovery and exploitation programme for Unidentified Aerial Phenomena.

    “The government not only was studying this, but then formed a, you know, material recovery and exploitation program.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:06:17.0-00:06:24.6 testimony first hand

  1880. 1880

    Phil McGraw considers that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure so far has been form without substance.

    “It's formed without substance so far.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:22:32.4-00:22:34.6 opinion first hand

  1881. 1881

    Phil McGraw considers that the American Psychological Association, the American Psychiatric Association and medical associations need to plan in advance for the psychological impact of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure.

    “the American Psychological Association, Psychiatric Association, Medical Associations all need to be planning in advance”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:23:11.2-00:23:18.7 opinion first hand

  1882. 1882

    Phil McGraw considers that planning is needed in case five to ten per cent of the population has an adverse reaction to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure.

    “if we're going to have a huge uptick of even five or 10% of the population that has an ab reaction to these sort of things, we need to plan for that and be there to support these folks.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:23:38.9-00:23:49.7 opinion first hand

  1883. 1883

    Phil McGraw considers that elderly people must be protected from internet scams following Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure, such as being told to sell everything to pay for a buried bunker to survive an alien invasion.

    “We need to make sure that elderly people aren't scammed on the internet with people saying you need to sell everything and and we'll bury a school bus for you in the mountains to create a bunker so you can be safe from this invasion of aliens”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:23:50.0-00:24:04.2 opinion first hand

  1884. 1884

    Phil McGraw considers that people deserve to know about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena and can handle the information, provided they are supported responsibly.

    “But I think we can handle it. I think people deserve to know. I think they can handle it. I think we need to be responsible in helping them.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:24:31.2-00:24:40.4 opinion first hand

  1885. 1885

    David Grusch considers that the United States Department of Health and Human Services and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. would play a big role in the public response if Donald Trump releases all the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena information.

    “I think HHS and Bobby Kennedy, assuming Trump releases all the information is going to play a big role”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:24:58.8-00:25:04.2 opinion first hand

  1886. 1886

    David Grusch considers that the Administration for Strategic Preparedness and Response would need to be involved in coordinating the public response to Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure.

    “there's a administration for strategic preparedness readiness called ASPR that would need to be involved as well to coordinate that response”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:25:05.4-00:25:12.5 opinion first hand

  1887. 1887

    David Grusch considers it an undervalued fact that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure will require a behavioural health and public health communication strategy.

    “There's kind of an undervalued fact that you're going to have to have this behavioral health and public health communication strategy.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:25:15.5-00:25:22.6 opinion first hand

  1888. 1888

    David Grusch interviewed a large number of subjects during his Unidentified Aerial Phenomena investigation.

    “And of course, I interviewed a ton of subjects”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:25:47.8-00:25:50.5 testimony first hand

  1889. 1889

    David Grusch brought people with close personal participation in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) subject, reaching up to the cabinet and White House level, to the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community (ICIG) under the Joe Biden administration, because he had not personally handled the material himself.

    “way up to the cabinet White House level that had close personal participation in this subject. And of course, because I wasn't hands on, so to speak, and saw this in person, I brought a lot of those people to the intelligence community inspector general under the Biden administration.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:25:51.4-00:26:06.3 testimony first hand

  1890. 1890

    David Grusch believes Mark Warner and Marco Rubio were nervous about escalating their confrontation with the United States intelligence community bureaucracy over the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue.

    “I think Mark Werner and Marco Rubio were a little nervous to really up the ante with the the deep state that they were tackling”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:26:47.5-00:26:55.2 opinion first hand

  1891. 1891

    Jake Sullivan served as National Security Advisor and attended a number of meetings concerning the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) subject.

    “Jake Sullivan, who's been in many interesting meetings about this subject. So I'd be curious what Mr. Sullivan has to say for himself when he was the National Security Advisor in his history on this topic.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:27:29.2-00:27:41.2 testimony first hand

  1892. 1892

    David Grusch is hearing mixed messages about how seriously Stephen Miller is taking the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue, and hopes Marco Rubio is helping him at the White House.

    “So once again, I hope Secretary Rubio is helping Stephen Miller at the White House because I'm hearing mixed messages about Stephen Miller's seriousness.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:27:41.8-00:27:50.1 opinion first hand

  1893. 1893

    David Grusch considers that mishandling the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) disclosure would damage Donald Trump's legacy.

    “And I hope he understands how this will impact President Trump's legacy if this is botched.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:27:51.5-00:27:56.7 opinion first hand

  1894. 1894

    David Grusch considers that Unidentified Flying Object (UFO) file releases need to be done in a professional way that the public can consume, rather than repeating the approach of the John F. Kennedy assassination records release.

    “And I think the same thing needs to happen with the UFO file drops. It needs to be done in a professional way that's consumable for the public.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:28:14.5-00:28:22.3 opinion first hand

  1895. 1895

    Phil McGraw objects that the released tranches of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) information have come with very little context, leaving people struggling to understand what the material means.

    “Well, one of the things that I have objected to is that these tranches of information that have been released have been released with very little context.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:28:23.6-00:28:35.6 opinion first hand

  1896. 1896

    Phil McGraw does not believe the lack of context in the released Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) document tranches is accidental.

    “And I don't think that's by accident, frankly.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:28:43.0-00:28:45.6 opinion first hand

  1897. 1897

    Five tranches of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) material have been released.

    “as I see these five tranches of release and I see these grainy videos”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:29:19.2-00:29:24.4 observation first hand

  1898. 1898

    Phil McGraw considers the released Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) videos, radar tracks and infrared material to be heavily degraded versions of what is available, since gun camera video is crystal clear when it is meant to be.

    “I've seen gun camera video. It is crystal clear if you want it to be crystal clear. And radar tracks and infrared, we're getting very degraded versions of what is available.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:29:25.5-00:29:39.1 opinion first hand

  1899. 1899

    Phil McGraw believes Donald Trump intends there to be transparency on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and that the degraded releases are not coming from him, but that the material becomes garbled once it enters the bureaucratic apparatus.

    “So I'm concerned about the intention. I don't think it's coming from President Trump. I think he intends for there to be transparency here, but I think when it gets into the bureaucratic apparatus, it's getting garbled.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:29:40.3-00:29:56.3 opinion first hand

  1900. 1900

    David Grusch has seen indisputable evidence that there are craft on Earth that did not originate on Earth.

    “Phil McGraw: So to be clear, you're saying that you have seen undisputable evidence that there are craft on this planet that are not from this planet, correct? David Grusch: Correct”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:29:56.8-00:30:17.0 testimony first hand

  1901. 1901

    David Grusch learned more about United States retrieval and reverse engineering of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) from a peer adversary's intelligence reporting than he did officially from his own government, until he began searching archives and speaking to people who supplied him with programme documentation.

    “And I learned more from a particular peer adversary about what the U.S. was doing in terms of retrieval and reverse engineering of UAP than I learned from my own government officially until I started spelunking in different archives, talking to people that were able to provide me program documentation, et cetera.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:30:32.6-00:30:51.4 testimony first hand

  1902. 1902

    An individual cleared David Grusch into a programme through which he learned some of the signatures the recovered craft emit, how the United States tracks them, and how that tracking of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) is hidden in plain sight within the national intelligence architecture.

    “And then I had an individual that cleared me into a program that I could learn some of the signatures that we've we've learned that these craft admit and how the US tracks it and how they hide the tracking of UAP within the national intelligence architecture in plain sight”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:30:52.3-00:31:09.3 testimony first hand

  1903. 1903

    The concealment of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) tracking works because certain hardware and back-end software processing was designed so that an observer would never know what the system was actually built to do.

    “you would never know that that was what it was actually designed to do because everything was buried and certain hardware and certain software processing was on the back end and you would never know that certain things were designed to do so.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:31:12.3-00:31:26.3 testimony first hand

  1904. 1904

    The Defense Intelligence Agency has refused to release to the United States Congress the classified foreign intelligence reporting about United States retrieval and reverse engineering of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “And once again, that foreign intelligence reporting, the Defense Intelligence Agency has refused to release those classified documents to Congress”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:31:26.7-00:31:36.4 testimony first hand

  1905. 1905

    Eric Burlison is likely to press Defense Intelligence Agency leadership to obtain the withheld classified foreign intelligence reporting on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “and I know Representative Burlison is likely going to pulse DIA leadership to get that.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:31:37.1-00:31:42.2 testimony first hand

  1906. 1906

    Presidents have in the past been briefed on social, psychological and national security concerns relating to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) subject.

    “besides some of the social, psychological, national security concerns, et cetera, that have been mentioned to presidents in the past that have been briefed.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:32:10.2-00:32:19.6 testimony first hand

  1907. 1907

    David Grusch considers that Stephen Miller should enlist Devin Nunes and his staff to help break the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue open.

    “And I hope that Stephen Miller has the wherewithal and seriousness to break this open. and enlist the help of certain other people like Devin Nunes”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:32:21.5-00:32:29.6 opinion first hand

  1908. 1908

    David Grusch says he knows who to call and which doors to knock on to resolve the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue quickly for Donald Trump if he were called in to help.

    “certainly they could, you know, ring me up if they needed to, you know, call me in to help solve this very, very quickly for the president because I know who to call and what doors to knock on.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:32:50.6-00:32:59.9 opinion first hand

  1909. 1909

    The number of craft of non-human origin recovered and held is more than 25 but fewer than 100.

    “Phil McGraw: Are we talking five, six, 25, 50? What are we talking about? David Grusch: Under 100 but more than 25 is what i could say”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:33:21.3-00:33:30.1 testimony first hand

  1910. 1910

    The recovered craft include disc-shaped vehicles.

    “There's a lot of vehicle types. You have the disc.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:34:16.2-00:34:20.4 testimony first hand

  1911. 1911

    The recovered craft include a sunfish or boot-heel shaped vehicle type.

    “You have the sunfish boot heel looking thing.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:34:21.0-00:34:23.4 testimony first hand

  1912. 1912

    The recovered craft include boomerang-shaped vehicles.

    “You have boomerangs.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:34:23.8-00:34:24.0 testimony first hand

  1913. 1913

    The recovered craft include crescent-moon shaped vehicles.

    “You have crescent moon looking craft.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:34:24.8-00:34:26.2 testimony first hand

  1914. 1914

    The recovered craft include Tic Tac shaped Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP).

    “You have tic tacs.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:34:26.8-00:34:28.3 testimony first hand

  1915. 1915

    The recovered craft include egg-shaped vehicles.

    “You have egg looking craft as well.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:34:29.3-00:34:31.2 testimony first hand

  1916. 1916

    The origin of the recovered craft is very hard to deduce because it is not known from what point in space or time they came.

    “Certainly, it's very hard to deduce origin because it's not like we know exactly what point in space or time these things came from.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:34:32.6-00:34:40.6 opinion first hand

  1917. 1917

    There are different types of pilots and different types of craft, with some similarities in operational technology, comparable to how many manufacturers build sports cars in the shape of a Porsche 911 or a Ford Mustang while the drivers of those cars differ.

    “But different types of pilots, if you will, different types of crafts, some similarities in operation technology. It's sort of like if you're a car manufacturer. A lot of people build sports cars that are in the shape of a Porsche 911 or a Ford Mustang. But there's many different drivers of said sports cars”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:34:41.2-00:35:01.7 opinion first hand

  1918. 1918

    The intelligences associated with the phenomenon span a taxonomy ranging from familiar types that seem only slightly more advanced than humans to indescribable, non-corporeal forms of sentience.

    “So its uh you know a whole taxonomy of different intelligences from very familiar type of intelligence where they seem just a little more advanced than us to indescribable, non-corporeal type of sentience”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:35:04.2-00:35:20.2 testimony first hand

  1919. 1919

    The orb phenomenon that emerged in the Tranche 4 UAP document release involves luminous orbs appearing at a sensitive test range, an issue the administration is contending with.

    “goes back to the orb phenomenon that came out in Tranche 4, that the administration is having this issue with these luminous orbs showing up at a certain sensitive test range.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:35:21.1-00:35:30.8 testimony first hand

  1920. 1920

    The luminous orbs appearing at a sensitive test range are visibly intelligently controlled and arrive in groups.

    “You can see that it's intelligently controlled. They come in groups.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:35:32.9-00:35:36.1 opinion first hand

  1921. 1921

    The luminous orbs seen at a sensitive test range are not ball lightning but a plasmoid type of intelligence.

    “This isn't just a ball lightning here, but it's this, you know, plasmoid type intelligence.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:35:37.1-00:35:42.0 opinion first hand

  1922. 1922

    David Grusch considers it possible that a structured craft lies behind the luminous orbs and that the plasma discharge is an artefact of the craft's propulsion system.

    “Now there might be a structured craft behind said plasmoid and that plasma discharge might be an artifact of the propulsion system possibly”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:35:42.7-00:35:50.2 opinion first hand

  1923. 1923

    Some of the craft that have been assessed are likely drones.

    “Some of the craft we've assessed that are likely drones”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:36:21.1-00:36:23.5 testimony first hand

  1924. 1924

    The pilots of the recovered craft look just like what credible witnesses have reported seeing.

    “But what do you know? They look just like what people have reported seeing, like credible witnesses.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:36:50.6-00:36:55.7 testimony first hand

  1925. 1925

    John Mack was a trained psychiatrist at Harvard University who studied people who had had experiences with the phenomenon.

    “it even goes back to the work of John Mack at Harvard who was a trained a psychiatrist looking at people that have had these experiences with the phenomenon.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:37:21.6-00:37:29.8 administrative first hand

  1926. 1926

    John Mack concluded that something real is occurring in the experiences reported by people who encountered the phenomenon, and that it is not a psychosomatic condition or a mental health condition.

    “And he deduced something is going on. This is not some, you know, psychosomatic thing or some mental health condition.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:37:30.6-00:37:38.2 hearsay second hand

  1927. 1927

    People have had personal experiences with the phenomenon over the eons, and the subject remains stigmatised.

    “And, you know, people over the eons have had these personal experiences with these things. And that is a sensitive subject that I know is still kind of stigmatized, unfortunately.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:37:38.8-00:37:48.5 opinion first hand

  1928. 1928

    The manoeuvrability seen in tracking data of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) would create g-forces that human pilots cannot sustain.

    “And from what we have seen on some of the tracking and all, their maneuverability would create g-forces that we can't sustain”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:40:38.8-00:40:49.3 opinion first hand

  1929. 1929

    Human metallurgy does not provide the structural strength to withstand the g-forces of turns made at the speeds Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) travel at, and the best human fighter aircraft would break apart attempting such a turn.

    “we don't have the metallurgy to have the structural strength to sustain the g-forces that making turns at the speeds they're moving at our best fighter would look like a yard sale if they made that kind of turn at that kind of speed”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:40:50.1-00:41:05.2 opinion first hand

  1930. 1930

    David Grusch cautions against ascribing the whole phenomenon merely to the extraterrestrial hypothesis, which he considers only one piece of the explanation.

    “But I do caution to ascribe this whole phenomenon as merely just extraterrestrial. That's certainly a piece of the pie. That's likely what some of this is.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:42:46.8-00:42:57.2 opinion first hand

  1931. 1931

    David Grusch raises a shadow biome as another possible origin of the phenomenon, and notes that 70 per cent of Earth's oceans are not understood, so an advanced intelligence may have developed on the seabed.

    “there's you know shadow biome there's other types of origins you know there's uh under the sea that we don't understand 70 of our oceans and what advanced intelligence might have uh developed on the seabed so to speak a wink wink”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:43:11.1-00:43:24.9 opinion first hand

  1932. 1932

    David Grusch knows what Donald Trump was briefed on during his previous term and what Marco Rubio was briefed on regarding the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) subject.

    “however you know i certainly know what the president was briefed on in his previous you know term and certainly what know Secretary Rubio was briefed on as well”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:45:15.2-00:45:24.6 testimony first hand

  1933. 1933

    If summoned, David Grusch would resolve the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) issue quickly and assemble a group of expert investigators for Donald Trump.

    “So once again, certainly if I ever got summoned, I would solve this very quickly and call up the A-Team for the president if you wanted to get control of this issue.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:45:37.1-00:45:47.0 opinion first hand

  1934. 1934

    Phil McGraw has discussed the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) subject with Donald Trump, Stephen Miller, Tim Burchett and Anna Paulina Luna.

    “And I've discussed this with the president. I've discussed it with Stephen Miller. I've discussed it with Representative Burchard and Luna.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:47:40.5-00:47:51.0 testimony first hand

  1935. 1935

    Phil McGraw believes there are people from Donald Trump down who genuinely want transparency on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and believe the American people are entitled to know their circumstance in the universe, but that the effort gets garbled downstream.

    “I've had discussions and I believe there are people from the president on down that truly want transparency and believe that the American people are entitled to know their circumstance in the universe. I believe they truly want that to happen. I think it gets garbled downstream.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:47:52.4-00:48:12.6 opinion first hand

  1936. 1936

    David Grusch has days on which he regrets having become involved in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) topic.

    “there's certainly days that, you know, I regret even getting involved in the topic.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:50:42.2-00:50:45.6 testimony first hand

  1937. 1937

    Before becoming involved in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) topic, David Grusch had at best an average interest in it.

    “I had an average at interest at best, you know, prior to getting involved”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:50:46.5-00:50:50.0 testimony first hand

  1938. 1938

    David Grusch hopes Donald Trump delivers on his promise regarding Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) disclosure.

    “i really hope that President Trump uh delivers on his promise”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:51:07.8-00:51:10.9 opinion first hand

  1939. 1939

    David Grusch considers Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) disclosure, rather than the war in Iran, the single issue that will define Donald Trump's legacy.

    “i think this is going to be the the singular thing that's going to define his legacy believe it or not i think it's not going to be the war in iran”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:51:11.4-00:51:18.6 opinion first hand

  1940. 1940

    David Grusch considers that Stephen Miller and Donald Trump's team need to realise that Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) disclosure will be the defining moment of Trump's legacy.

    “i think Mr Miller and the president's team needs to realize this is going to be the defining moment of his legacy”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:51:25.0-00:51:31.3 opinion first hand

  1941. 1941

    David Grusch considers that the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) information will come out even if Donald Trump does not disclose it.

    “even if Trump doesn't disclose you know this is coming out the genies out of the bottle now”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:51:32.2-00:51:37.6 opinion first hand

  1942. 1942

    David Grusch considers that George W. Bush and other past presidents had access to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) information and will be asked what they knew and why they did not release it.

    “what did the President know and why didn't he you know get the information out and that goes to W Bush. That goes to you know other Presidents in the past that were will access this information”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:51:40.2-00:51:50.7 opinion first hand

  1943. 1943

    Phil McGraw considers that people have the right to information about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and to think critically about what it means to them.

    “But you have the right to have information and think critically about it. And you have the right to decide what it means to you”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 00:54:39.8-00:54:49.0 opinion first hand

  1944. 1944

    A permanent United States intelligence community bureaucracy kept control of the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena issue across decades while political appointees came and went without many of them knowing about it.

    “kind of the intelligentsia deep state ... kept that torch burning and controlled the issue and allowed the political appointees to essentially come and go without many of them knowing.”

    David Grusch: The Whistleblower Who Told Congress We're Not Alone 2026-08-13 line 64 testimony first hand

  1945. 1945

    Whitley Strieber is republishing Transformation because he sees a synergy between the UAP disclosure process and the visitors returning into people's lives.

    “the reason I'm republishing it is this is expanding again, as there's some kind of synergy between the disclosure process and the beings coming back into coming into people's lives”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:10:11.3-00:10:24.8 opinion first hand

  1946. 1946

    From a hill above the clearing near his upstate New York cabin in January 1987, Whitley Strieber saw a dark object in the clearing with some figures standing in front of it.

    “through the bare winter woods, I could see an object, a dark object in the clearing, and some figures standing in front of it”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:14:37.5-00:14:46.6 observation first hand

  1947. 1947

    Slide nine of the Pentagon's private briefing to one of its undersecretaries on the phenomenon states that the phenomenon is able to manipulate human perception and can remotely interfere with what humans can see and experience.

    “what the Pentagon has said privately in its briefings to one of its undersecretaries in slide nine, where it talks about how the phenomenon is able to manipulate human perception. It can remotely interfere with what humans can see and experience.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:28:56.9-00:29:11.9 testimony second hand

  1948. 1948

    Whitley Strieber considers that if humanity catches up to the moment from which the time travellers first departed, a singularity will be reached and the government or someone will disclose that time travel exists.

    “There's always going to be an element of a mirage until and if we reach the moment from which the time travelers first started back. If we catch up to that moment, then we reach a kind of singularity and we will all then immediately know it'll be in the form of someone, the government or someone disclosing that we have time travel.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:37:04.2-00:37:31.3 opinion first hand

  1949. 1949

    Guy Hicks was the commanding officer at the air base from which Thomas F. Mantell flew up and crashed while attempting to shoot down a UFO.

    “Colonel Guy Hicks, who was the commanding officer at the air base where Captain Mantell flew up and ended up crashing, attempting to to shoot down a UFO”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:38:15.0-00:38:29.8 administrative first hand

  1950. 1950

    Ross Coulthart considers this a moment in history in which a United States president is for the first time talking publicly about potentially disclosing on the phenomenon.

    “I'm fascinated that we're at a moment in history right now where a president for the first time is talking publicly about potentially disclosing.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:42:18.0-00:42:28.0 opinion first hand

  1951. 1951

    Arthur Ernest Exon told Whitley Strieber that a scientist in the group held that if the public became aware of the phenomenon, it would enable the beings to come in on what Strieber describes as a tide of belief.

    “He said something along the lines of there was a scientist in the group who thought that if we I asked, I did ask him about the secrecy. He thought that if the public became aware of this, it would enable these beings to come in on a He didn't say these words, he was no poet, but on a tide of belief is how I would describe what he was trying to say.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:43:31.7-00:43:58.2 hearsay third hand

  1952. 1952

    Ross Coulthart regards the central mystery of the UAP subject as the question of why the secrecy persists 80 years after World War Two.

    “the central mystery in the whole UAP mystery is to me, why the secrecy? You know, why is it 80 years on from World War II?”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:50:09.7-00:50:20.7 opinion first hand

  1953. 1953

    On being told by Whitley Strieber of Arthur Ernest Exon's account, Anne Strieber responded that all the UFOs we see are like a military operation designed to make us assume they are as real as we assume ourselves to be.

    “And when I told Anne that, she said, well, then the UFO, all the UFOs we see are like a military operation designed to make us assume that they are real as much as we assume we are real.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:52:01.9-00:52:16.3 opinion second hand

  1954. 1954

    Whitley Strieber believes UFO sightings and encounter experiences were silently building acceptance of the beings' presence in the minds of many people who had such experiences before his own.

    “they were silently building in the minds of many people these having these experiences before I had mine. So that it would trigger more acceptance of their presence.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:52:26.9-00:52:39.4 opinion first hand

  1955. 1955

    Jimmy Carter apparently had the experience, as president, of asking the Department of Defense to tell the public the story about UFOs.

    “you're Jimmy Carter, who apparently had this happen. Uh, and you say to the defense department, okay, I want to tell the story about the UFOs.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:52:49.5-00:53:00.6 hearsay first hand

  1956. 1956

    Whitley Strieber believes officials told the president that disclosing the UFO story would reach a tipping point that opens a door in the minds of the public which can never be closed, with no knowledge of what is on the other side until the beings are walking our streets.

    “if we do that, we are going to reach a tipping point. And when we do, we open a door and they come in through that door and we can never close it again because that door is in the minds of the public. and we don't know what they are and what is on the other side of that door and we won't know until they are walking our streets”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:53:06.8-00:53:30.7 opinion first hand

  1957. 1957

    Whitley Strieber attributes Jimmy Carter's subsequent refusal to talk about UFOs to Carter having been told that presidential disclosure would be a trip wire.

    “the result of that of course was he wouldn't even talk about it anymore if that if i'm right about what they're told”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:53:35.9-00:53:40.7 opinion first hand

  1958. 1958

    Whitley Strieber would be very interested to see whether Donald Trump makes a disclosure about the phenomenon.

    “i'm would be very interested if Donald Trump actually does this”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:53:53.7-00:54:00.0 opinion first hand

  1959. 1959

    Ross Coulthart does not expect Donald Trump to make a significant disclosure, considering him intimidated by the national security state and likely to offer only a few blurry videos and something for Congress to get excited about.

    “i don't think he's going to Whitley i think he's going to wimp it i think he's intimidated by the national security state and he's probably going to give us a few blurry videos and give something for congress to get excited about but i don't think we're going to see any significant disclosure”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:54:01.0-00:54:14.9 opinion first hand

  1960. 1960

    Whitley Strieber wrote Transformation 2026 in case a president announces in the Oval Office that the beings are real and have been known about for 80 years, which he believes would be the tripwire causing them to appear everywhere in our world.

    “he sits down at the in the at the uh in the Oval Office and says okay they're here we've known it for 80 years they're real and that is the tripwire, and they start to appear everywhere in our world. That's why I wrote Transformation 2026 in case that happens”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:54:19.8-00:54:42.3 testimony first hand

  1961. 1961

    Whitley Strieber expects that if disclosure happens people will go into a complete tailspin and it will be the most shocking thing that has ever occurred.

    “because if it does happen, people are going to go into a complete tailspin. It's going to be the most shocking thing that's ever occurred.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 00:54:43.4-00:54:49.8 opinion first hand

  1962. 1962

    Ross Coulthart wonders whether the so-called drones and objects seen across the continental United States, across Europe, in Russia and in China, buzzing civil and military airspace, are the phenomenon at least in part trying to twig human consciousness.

    “I wonder whether the big shows we've seen, the so-called drones or objects that have been seen right across the continental United States and right across Europe and indeed in Russia and China, these mysterious objects that have been buzzing civil and military airspace, I wonder if they're the phenomenon, at least in part, trying to twig our consciousness.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:06:30.9-01:06:56.0 opinion first hand

  1963. 1963

    Whitley Strieber believes the worldwide drone and object incidents must be the phenomenon acting on human consciousness, because there are too many of them in too many different parts of the world to be generated by a power on our level of reality.

    “I think they must be, and I'm not quite sure what's going on, but the reason I think they must be is there are simply too many of them, too many incidents in too many different parts of the world for this to be identifiable as something being generated by a power on our level of reality.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:06:57.6-01:07:18.8 opinion first hand

  1964. 1964

    Ross Coulthart considers the thesis developed in the interview a plausible explanation for why people in the United States Air Force and private military aerospace who know about the phenomenon keep it to themselves.

    “it might just provide a plausible explanation for why the people in the US Air Force and private military aerospace that know about this phenomenon and know a hell of a lot more than they're letting on are keeping it to themselves”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:07:53.5-01:08:07.8 opinion first hand

  1965. 1965

    Whitley Strieber believes those who know about the phenomenon are afraid that if it comes out it will open a door in the mind of the human species that can never be closed, and afraid of what might come through it, and he does not blame them.

    “I think that they are afraid that if it comes out, it's basically going to open that door in the mind of the human species and it can never be closed again. And they don't, they're afraid of what might come through that door and I don't blame them.”

    Whitley Strieber Reveals What 40 Years of Encounters Taught Him | Reality Check Rewind 2026-08-14 01:08:12.2-01:08:25.9 opinion first hand

  1966. 1966

    Julia Mossbridge suggests the bouncing movement of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) may be them loading up on gravitational energy.

    “maybe that's what UAP are doing when they're just bouncing around. Maybe they're just like loading up and they have to do this change of like the gravitational just a little bit”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 00:07:48.8-00:07:56.2 opinion first hand

  1967. 1967

    Julia Mossbridge suggests Earth's magnetosphere may assist Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) and be a reason they choose this planet.

    “yeah maybe the like magnetosphere helps them and so that's why they choose our planet i don't know”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 00:07:57.8-00:08:02.4 opinion first hand

  1968. 1968

    Julia Mossbridge decided to undergo hypnotic memory regression to investigate her childhood experiences and asked a contact in the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena field to recommend a practitioner who would not plant ideas in her mind.

    “I finally decided I would do some regression with some memory regression. I went to a UAP friend in the field, you know, who do you know who's not going to plant ideas in my mind as I do hypnotic regression?”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 00:29:19.9-00:29:33.4 testimony first hand

  1969. 1969

    Chris Ramsay corrected the account of Jake Barber's emotional experience: it was not an egg-shaped object but an octagonal craft, the eight-gon, that Jake Barber was piloting when he felt an overwhelming sense of feminine energy.

    “No, it wasn't the egg. It was the eight-gon, this octagonal sort of craft that he felt when he was piloting, that it was like, yeah, this overwhelming sense of feminine energy.”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 01:04:15.1-01:04:25.8 hearsay second hand

  1970. 1970

    Julia Mossbridge sees the same mutual-watching dynamic among nations in UFO disclosure as in psi research, with one country beginning a disclosure process prompting others to consider doing the same.

    “It's like, oh, it's just the same seems to me with UFOs. It's like, oh, I see you're now going through a disclosure process. Okay, maybe we'll do disclosure.”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:34:18.0-02:34:25.1 opinion first hand

  1971. 1971

    The Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies is a group made up mostly of scientists and engineers trying to work out what can be learned about Unidentified Aerial Phenomena and about non-human intelligence.

    “it's a group of scientists and engineers mostly who are trying to figure out what can we learn about UAP and what's the deal with NHI.”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:46:51.9-02:46:59.3 administrative first hand

  1972. 1972

    Julia Mossbridge holds that anyone who does not recognise a relationship between the human mind, mind as a universal thing, and Unidentified Aerial Phenomena has not understood the phenomenon.

    “But I think if you don't understand that there's a relationship between the human mind and mind itself as a universal thing and UAP, you haven't understood the phenomenon.”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:47:15.0-02:47:27.4 opinion first hand

  1973. 1973

    The Unidentified Aerial Phenomena phenomenon involves a psionic element of intention, a trickster element of appearing and disappearing, and a time element covering both human perceptual time and physical time.

    “There's this psionic thing going on with intention, intentionality. Now you see me, now you don't. There's this trickster phenomenon. ... There's a time phenomenon, which can be human perceptual time and also physical time.”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:47:39.2-02:47:54.4 opinion first hand

  1974. 1974

    Julia Mossbridge considers the consciousness aspect of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena to be a cultural taboo that is being avoided because treating the phenomenon as merely craft in the sky is easier.

    “And I know that we're staying away from it, you know, at a cultural level, because it's much easier to say, oh, look, race cars in the sky. But like, that is the big taboo. And we've got to walk towards it with our eyes open.”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:48:00.1-02:48:13.2 opinion first hand

  1975. 1975

    The Wilbert Smith 1950 memorandum on flying saucers is a declassified document written by Wilbert Smith after a trip to the United States, in which he recorded meeting officials who were taking flying saucers very seriously.

    “in 1950, there is a, um, a declassified document after he came back from a trip to the United States. where he said that he met with officials and they're taking the flying saucer things very seriously over there.”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:48:33.0-02:48:47.3 administrative second hand

  1976. 1976

    The Wilbert Smith 1950 memorandum on flying saucers records that Vannevar Bush had put together a team to look into flying saucers.

    “he even says, Vannevar Bush put together a team to look into this stuff”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:48:49.4-02:48:54.6 administrative second hand

  1977. 1977

    The Wilbert Smith 1950 memorandum on flying saucers contains a list of about three points, the first of which is that flying saucers are real.

    “And then it says, he's got this list of like three things or whatever. And he goes, number one, flying saucers are real. Period.”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:49:03.8-02:49:11.6 administrative second hand

  1978. 1978

    The third point in the Wilbert Smith 1950 memorandum on flying saucers is that the phenomenon is mental.

    “And number three, he goes, and the phenomenon is mental.”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:49:14.9-02:49:18.4 administrative second hand

  1979. 1979

    Julia Mossbridge considers current Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure to have gone no further than releasing some videos and audio, despite the mental aspect having been recorded in 1950.

    “And that was back in 1950. That was 1950. And it feels like disclosure is just at like, here are some videos and some audio.”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:49:43.8-02:49:48.6 opinion first hand

  1980. 1980

    Julia Mossbridge considers the limiting of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena disclosure to craft, and the exclusion of the consciousness aspect, to be by design.

    “Chris Ramsay: But doesn't that feel like by design? Julia Mossbridge: Yes. That's what I'm saying. Yeah.”

    Non Human Intelligence, GATE Program and Psi Ability with Dr. Julia Mossbridge | ep. 99 2026-08-14 02:49:49.1-02:49:52.5 opinion first hand

  1981. 1981

    Robert Bigelow is a billionaire and Trump donor whose interest in UAP spans several decades.

    “billionaire and Trump donor Robert Bigelow, whose interest in UAPs spans several decades”

    Pressure Mounts on President Trump as UAP Disclosure Advocates Intensify Their Push 2026-08-19 char:3380-3461 administrative

  1982. 1982

    In February 2026, Robert Bigelow advised Donald Trump on how he might address the nation regarding the UAP issue.

    “Two weeks ago, Bigelow said that in February he advised President Trump on how he might address the nation regarding the issue.”

    Pressure Mounts on President Trump as UAP Disclosure Advocates Intensify Their Push 2026-08-19 char:3470-3591 testimony first hand

  1983. 1983

    David Grusch is a Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) whistleblower and former United States Air Force intelligence officer.

    “Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) whistleblower and former U.S. Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch”

    Pressure Mounts on President Trump as UAP Disclosure Advocates Intensify Their Push 2026-08-19 char:402-508 administrative

  1984. 1984

    The advocates' goal is to prompt a public acknowledgement by Donald Trump that some UAP are of non-human origin.

    “Their goal is to prompt a public acknowledgement that some UAPs are of non-human origin.”

    Pressure Mounts on President Trump as UAP Disclosure Advocates Intensify Their Push 2026-08-19 char:5606-5687 observation

  1985. 1985

    Donald Trump reportedly asked Stephen Miller to examine the UAP portfolio.

    “Stephen Miller, one of Trump’s closest and longest‑serving advisers, has reportedly been asked by the President to examine the UAP portfolio”

    Pressure Mounts on President Trump as UAP Disclosure Advocates Intensify Their Push 2026-08-19 char:664-795 hearsay

  1986. 1986

    Some anonymous sources told Liberation Times they fear that whistleblowers could face retaliation if the UAP issue slips from the political agenda.

    “Some sources told Liberation Times they fear that whistleblowers could face retaliation if the UAP issue slips from the political agenda.”

    Pressure Mounts on President Trump as UAP Disclosure Advocates Intensify Their Push 2026-08-19 char:7916-8090 hearsay second hand

  1987. 1987

    Whether Donald Trump is prepared to disclose any information related to UAP remains unclear, with sources offering differing accounts of his level of interest and of how the White House is currently approaching the issue.

    “Whether President Trump is prepared to disclose any information related to UAPs remains unclear, with sources offering differing accounts of his level of interest and of how the White House is currently approaching the issue.”

    Pressure Mounts on President Trump as UAP Disclosure Advocates Intensify Their Push 2026-08-19 char:8119-8338 observation

  1988. 1988

    Stephen Miller is seen by disclosure advocates as a key figure in determining how the Trump administration approaches the UAP issue.

    “is now seen by disclosure advocates as a key figure in determining how the administration approaches the subject”

    Pressure Mounts on President Trump as UAP Disclosure Advocates Intensify Their Push 2026-08-19 char:908-1013 opinion

  1989. 1989

    Beatriz Villarroel attributes a long-standing tendency, dating back to the early 1950s, of ridiculing the UFO topic in order to debunk it and prevent it from attracting too much public interest.

    “this uh old habit that has been around since the early like early 50s, when people have just decided to ridicule the whole UFO topic all the time in order to just try to debunk it and make sure that it doesn't in any way pull too much interest from the general audience.”

    Secret Soviet UFOs: What happened when two scientists knocked on a door in Estonia? | Reality Check 00:28:12.2-00:28:32.3 opinion first hand

  1990. 1990

    The sighting report of the two Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) moving south at approximately 440 kilometres per hour near grid coordinate 35SQT3423692957 was classified SECRET, releasable to the United States, Finland, Sweden, Five Eyes (FVEY), and North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO).

    “{{classification: "SECRET//REL TO USA, FIN, SWE, FVEY, NATO"}} AT 1653Z, {{redacted: ~3 words}} OBS 2X UAPS DYNAMIC SOUTH AT APPROX 240NM/HOUR IVO 35SQT3423692957.”

    UAP Sighting Report char:1514-1675 administrative second hand

  1991. 1991

    At 1653Z, two round, white, thermally hot Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) were observed moving dynamically south at approximately 440 kilometres per hour in the vicinity of grid coordinate 35SQT3423692957.

    “AT 1653Z, {{redacted: ~3 words}} OBS 2X ROUND WHITE HOT UAPS DYNAMIC SOUTH AT APPROX 240NM/HOUR IVO 35SQT3423692957.”

    UAP Sighting Report char:1575-1675 observation

  1992. 1992

    Craft and technologies described as UFO or UAP are reportedly operating without United States Congressional oversight.

    “craft and technologies (commonly known as UFO or UAP) that are not ours and that are reportedly operating without Congressional oversight”

    Whistleblower Statement for the House of Representatives Task Force char:1024-1152 testimony first hand

  1993. 1993

    Dylan Borland's professional career was deliberately obstructed because of his direct knowledge of the reality of certain legacy UAP programmes.

    “Because of my direct knowledge of the reality of certain legacy UAP programs, my professional career was deliberately obstructed”

    Whistleblower Statement for the House of Representatives Task Force char:1163-1281 testimony first hand

  1994. 1994

    In 2023, patriots provided the United States House of Representatives Task Force on UAP and the executive branch with what Dylan Borland considers undeniable proof of the reality of UAP.

    “In 2023, patriots provided this committee and the executive branch with undeniable proof of the UAP reality, and I commend your continued commitment.”

    Whistleblower Statement for the House of Representatives Task Force char:5879-6017 opinion first hand

  1995. 1995

    Dylan Borland is a federal whistleblower who testified to the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) and the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) with direct firsthand knowledge of and experience with craft and technologies commonly known as UFO or UAP that are not of United States origin.

    “I am a federal whistleblower, having testified to both the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) and All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) with direct firsthand knowledge of and experience with craft and technologies (commonly known as UFO or UAP) that are not ours”

    Whistleblower Statement for the House of Representatives Task Force char:814-1091 testimony first hand

  1996. 1996

    Barney and Betty Hill's case began with a six-page report from the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena (NICAP) describing their sighting of an unidentified flying object.

    “they began almost at the beginning with a six-page report from NICAP...this was the story of their seeing an unidentified flying object, which was investigated by a NICAP investigator who made this report”

    The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:02:15.3-00:02:36.0 testimony first hand

  1997. 1997

    Barney and Betty Hill came to Benjamin Simon for treatment, not for a UFO investigation, and everything about the UFO story that followed was a consequence of the findings made during that treatment.

    “I must insist that everyone understand that these two people came to me not for an investigation of UFOs or any of the things that led us to law...All of the rest that transpired afterwards...story and everything was a consequence of the findings in doing the treatment of the two”

    The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:04:18.5-00:04:46.9 opinion first hand

  1998. 1998

    Benjamin Simon observed that Betty Hill was more anxious about Barney Hill walking away from and back to the car than about what they had seen, though she herself thought it was some sort of UFO.

    “It seemed to me she was much more anxious about Barney out on the road and sort of walking away and then back to the car. Then she wasn't about what they saw, though she herself thought that it was some sort of UFO.”

    The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:09:19.5-00:09:33.4 observation first hand

  1999. 1999

    Betty Hill had much more conviction that the sighted object was a UFO than Barney Hill did.

    “She had much more conviction on that than Barney.”

    The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:09:33.7-00:09:35.6 observation first hand

  2000. 2000

    Betty Hill's account described the sighted UFO as landing, making beeping sounds, stalling their car's motor, and causing silver-like spots to appear on the car.

    “Betty's story went on beyond that in telling the story of having been, that the UFO had landed, had made beeping sounds and had stalled their motor and various things of that sort and had caused silver-like spots to appear on their car.”

    The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:11:05.8-00:11:25.6 testimony first hand

  2001. 2001

    Benjamin Simon defines a UFO as simply an unidentified flying object, which can be a weather balloon or something misinterpreted, and whose definition does not by itself imply visitation from outer space.

    “I must define UFO as I see it. It means an unidentified flying object, and that's all it means. It can be Mendel's balloons, weather balloons, misinterpreted, or anything else. It does not by its definition, imply visitation from out of space”

    The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:14:12.3-00:14:28.4 opinion first hand

  2002. 2002

    Benjamin Simon says he has personally seen a couple of UFOs which both later became identified flying objects (IFOs).

    “I, too, have seen a couple of UFOs, and both of them became IFOs at a later time. That is, they became identified flying objects.”

    The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:14:35.2-00:14:42.0 observation first hand

  2003. 2003

    Donald Menzel of Harvard described many aerial phenomena, including weather balloons, that under certain weather conditions can look like UFOs (Unidentified Flying Objects).

    “Menzel of Harvard has described many aerial phenomena, weather balloons and thoughts that under certain weather conditions can look like UFOs.”

    The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:29:40.8-00:29:51.4 testimony second hand

  2004. 2004

    A scientist in Washington proposed ball lightning as a possible base stimulus for UFO (Unidentified Flying Object) sightings.

    “A class in Washington has cited, has mentioned his theory of ball lightning as a base stimulus.”

    The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:29:52.7-00:30:00.6 testimony second hand

  2005. 2005

    Benjamin Simon considers that a scene in the film The UFO Incident showing men working in the road at the Hills' last stop could easily have been misinterpreted by the Hills as a UFO (Unidentified Flying Object).

    “they cut that into the movie, it's not that clear, is that when they stopped at their last place, it looked as if some men working in the road, and if you saw the movie, that is shown there, and that could have been very much a thing misinterpreted as a UFO in the other sense of the word.”

    The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks 00:30:31.7-00:30:54.9 opinion first hand

  2006. 2006

    The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program was likely the largest UFO study ever conducted with government funds.

    “It was likely the largest UFO study ever conducted with the use of government funds.”

    Statement to Congress char:10277-10355 opinion first hand

  2007. 2007

    The Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program team compiled what might be the largest and most sophisticated UFO data warehouse ever created, with more than 200,000 cases catalogued.

    “The team compiled what might be the largest and most sophisticated UFO data warehouse ever created, with more than 200,000 cases catalogued.”

    Statement to Congress char:10526-10655 measurement first hand

  2008. 2008

    Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program personnel suspected that sightings of unusual creatures and bizarre phenomena near UFO activity might be an unintentional side effect of a technology seemingly beyond anything currently possessed.

    “AAWSAP personnel suspected that the sighting of weird creatures and bizarre phenomena in the proximity of UFO activity might be some sort of unintentional side effect of a technology that is seemingly beyond anything we currently possess.”

    Statement to Congress char:12376-12606 opinion second hand

  2009. 2009

    Since 1969, the official position of the United States military has been that UFOs pose no threat to national security and are not worthy of further study.

    “Since 1969, the position of our military has been that UFOs pose no threat to national security and are not worthy of further study.”

    Statement to Congress char:1565-1691 administrative

  2010. 2010

    Documents obtained via Freedom of Information Act requests reveal that high-ranking military officers considered the UFO mystery to be "serious business."

    “High ranking military officers considered the UFO mystery to be "serious business."”

    Statement to Congress char:1809-1882 hearsay second hand

  2011. 2011

    Military leaders internally acknowledged that UFOs were "real, not fictitious" and were metallic craft capable of manoeuvres far beyond any known technology on Earth.

    “military leaders knew that UFOs were "real, not fictitious", that they were metallic craft, capable of incredible maneuvers far beyond any known technology on Earth”

    Statement to Congress char:1950-2109 hearsay second hand

  2012. 2012

    Internal documents describe a disturbing number of incidents in which UFOs demonstrated intense interest in United States military assets, particularly nuclear weapons.

    “there were a disturbing number of incidents wherein UFOs seemed to demonstrate an intense interest in our military assets, in particular nuclear weapons”

    Statement to Congress char:2125-2270 hearsay second hand

  2013. 2013

    George Knapp considers his private conversation with Harry Reid directly related to the current explosion of public interest in the UFO/UAP controversy, including inquiries underway in both houses of the United States Congress.

    “That private conversation with Reid proved to be pivotal in the long run, and is directly related to the current explosion of public interest in the UFO/UAP controversy, including the inquiries now underway in both houses of Congress.”

    Statement to Congress char:3100-3325 opinion first hand

  2014. 2014

    Robert Bigelow began funding private UFO investigations as well as the work of UFO organisations.

    “Bigelow began funding private UFO investigations as well the work of UFO organizations UFO.”

    Statement to Congress char:3537-3624 administrative first hand

  2015. 2015

    One of the topics of interest to Harry Reid, Robert Bigelow, and the National Institute for Discovery Science was Russia's ongoing interest in UFOs.

    “One of the topics that was of interest to Reid, Bigelow, and NIDS was Russia's ongoing interest in UFOs.”

    Statement to Congress char:4806-4905 administrative first hand

  2016. 2016

    George Knapp asked Nikolai Kapranov to find high-ranking persons in the former USSR who might know about secret UFO programmes or investigations in Russia and who would agree to meet with him.

    “I asked Dr. Nikolai Kapranov if he might be willing to find high ranking persons in the former USSR who may have been in a position to know about any secret UFO programs or investigations in Russia and whether any of those persons would agree to meet with me.”

    Statement to Congress char:5443-5699 testimony first hand

  2017. 2017

    In the spring of 1993, George Knapp travelled with two colleagues to Moscow and interviewed more than a dozen military officials, intelligence operatives, and scientists with knowledge of UFO incidents and studies in the former USSR during the Cold War.

    “In the spring of that year, I traveled with two colleagues to Moscow, met and interviewed more than a dozen military officials, intelligence operatives, and scientists who had knowledge of UFO incidents and studies in the former USSR during the Cold War.”

    Statement to Congress char:5813-6063 testimony first hand

  2018. 2018

    Russian leaders commissioned an unprecedented UFO investigation, ordering that any UFO incident or report by any unit in the Russian military be fully investigated, witnesses interviewed, and evidence collected and forwarded to an office inside the Russian Ministry of Defense.

    “Russian leaders commissioned an unprecedented UFO investigation. The order went out to all units in the vast Russian military empire that any UFO incident or report must be fully investigated, witnesses interviewed, evidence collected and then all of those materials were forwarded to an office inside the Ministry of Defense.”

    Statement to Congress char:6083-6401 hearsay second hand

  2019. 2019

    The Russian military's UFO study lasted a full ten years and was likely the largest UFO investigation ever undertaken.

    “The study lasted a full ten years and was likely the largest UFO investigation ever undertaken.”

    Statement to Congress char:6411-6495 opinion first hand

  2020. 2020

    Thousands of case files were accumulated during the Russian military's ten-year UFO investigation, and nearly all of the interviewed witnesses were military personnel.

    “Thousands of case files were accumulated. Nearly all of the witnesses who were interviewed were military personnel.”

    Statement to Congress char:6507-6612 hearsay second hand

  2021. 2021

    Boris Sokolov said there had been 45 incidents in which Russian warplanes engaged with UFOs, chasing them and even shooting at them.

    “Sokolov said there had been 45 incidents in which Russian warplanes engaged with UFOs, chased them, even shot at them.”

    Statement to Congress char:6721-6834 testimony second hand

  2022. 2022

    In most of the 45 Russian warplane-UFO encounters, the UFOs shot away at unbelievable speeds, but in three incidents the Russian warplanes crashed, killing two pilots.

    “In most incidents, the UFOs shot away at unbelievable speeds, but in three incidents, the Russian warplanes were dibbled and crashed. Two of the pilots were killed.”

    Statement to Congress char:6840-6997 hearsay second hand

  2023. 2023

    After the crash incidents, the Russian Ministry of Defense issued a nationwide order that UFOs should be left alone because, in the words of a top Russian Air Defence official, "they may have incredible capacities for retaliation."

    “After those incidents, the MOD issued a nationwide order that UFOs should be left alone because, in the words of a top Air Defense official, "they may have incredible capacities for retaliation."”

    Statement to Congress char:7005-7187 hearsay third hand

  2024. 2024

    Boris Sokolov shared information with George Knapp about an alarming incident at a Russian ICBM base in Ukraine in which UFOs appeared, performed manoeuvres in front of stunned eyewitnesses, and then took control of the base's launch system.

    “Col. Sokolov also shared information about an alarming incident at a Russian ICBM base in Ukraine. UFOs appeared over the base, performed astonishing maneuvers in front of stunned eyewitnesses and then somehow took control of the launch system.”

    Statement to Congress char:7201-7438 testimony second hand

  2025. 2025

    George Knapp's interest in UFO secrecy began in 1987.

    “As a journalist, my interest in UFO secrecy began in 1987.”

    Statement to Congress char:774-827 administrative first hand

  2026. 2026

    The Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed to George Knapp that it was studying UFO cases in the hope of understanding and eventually duplicating the technology that had allowed UFO pilots to dominate Russian airspace and weapons systems.

    “The Russian MOD had confirmed to me that they were studying UFO cases in the hope that they might understand and eventually duplicate the technology that had allowed the UFO pilots to so thoroughly dominate Russian airspace and weapons systems.”

    Statement to Congress char:7887-8123 testimony second hand

  2027. 2027

    George Knapp has written hundreds of UFO-related news stories and series.

    “I have written hundreds of UFO-related news stories and series”

    Statement to Congress char:858-914 administrative first hand

  2028. 2028

    William F. Hamilton believes that what is being dealt with regarding UFOs is a real physical phenomenon involving structured, manufactured craft seen both in the air and on the ground.

    “Well, first of all, I have found that what we're dealing with here is a real physical phenomena. We're talking about structured craft, manufactured craft that have been seen both in the air and on the ground.”

    Cosmic Top Secret: Bill Hamilton on UFO Crash Retrievals & Alien Technology Being Tested 00:08:42.3-00:08:55.3 opinion first hand

  2029. 2029

    William F. Hamilton believes many Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO), specifically the spacecraft of interest, have an extraterrestrial origin.

    “We believe that a lot of UFOs, the ones we're really interested in in spacecraft, have an extraterrestrial origin.”

    Cosmic Top Secret: Bill Hamilton on UFO Crash Retrievals & Alien Technology Being Tested 00:09:52.4-00:09:59.4 opinion first hand

  2030. 2030

    William F. Hamilton says most of what UFO researchers have is not actual physical hard evidence, which he identifies as a deficiency.

    “Well, I mean, most of what we have is not the actual physical hard evidence. This is what we're deficient in. Almost any UFO researcher would love to get his hands on the actual physical evidence.”

    Cosmic Top Secret: Bill Hamilton on UFO Crash Retrievals & Alien Technology Being Tested 00:10:47.7-00:11:01.6 opinion first hand

  2031. 2031

    Mary Rodwell has never observed an unidentified flying object nor experienced abduction.

    “I've never seen a UFO, and I have never had an abductee experience.”

    The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:03:12.5-00:03:16.3 observation first hand

  2032. 2032

    Mary Rodwell believes many millions of people have experienced unidentified flying objects and abductions.

    “but I do believe many millions have”

    The Reality of Alien Abductions & ET Contact: Mary Rodwell (Rare 1998 Lecture) 00:03:18.5-00:03:20.9 opinion first hand

  2033. 2033

    Raymond Fowler considers that UFOs do not fly in the conventional sense but operate like diving bells, wobbling as if weightless, staying localised rather than moving from point to point over long distances.

    “They don't really fly, Bill. They operate just like diving bells. They come in, they wobble almost as if they're weightless. They do their thing. They usually don't go from A to B over a long distance. They're very localized.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:07:07.6-00:07:21.4 opinion first hand

  2034. 2034

    The United States government treats UFOs as real and as a potential threat to national security.

    “we have many, many documents that indicate that UFOs are real and that they're treated as a threat, a potential threat to national security.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:22:46.6-00:22:55.0 opinion first hand

  2035. 2035

    A Central Intelligence Agency memo directed the Psychological Strategy Board of the Central Intelligence Agency to set up a public information programme on UFOs intended to minimise panic.

    “a memo, a Central Intelligence Agency memo, which directs the Psychological Strategy Board of the Central Intelligence Agency to set up a public information program on UFOs that would minimize panic.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:23:32.7-00:23:45.1 testimony second hand

  2036. 2036

    There was no air defence capability against UFOs, which is why the subject had to be kept very quiet.

    “the other thing was that there was no air defense against whatever they were, and therefore this whole thing had to be kept very, very quiet.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:23:55.5-00:24:01.6 opinion first hand

  2037. 2037

    There have been cases of people being burned or hurt by UFOs, though these are a minority.

    “we've had people who have been burned by UFOs, people hurt. These are in the minority.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:24:03.5-00:24:08.0 testimony first hand

  2038. 2038

    UFOs have consistently shown interest in atomic weapons storage areas, highly restricted military installations, and Minuteman missile sites.

    “UFOs have consistently shown interest in atomic weapons storage areas, highly restricted military installations, Minuteman sites.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:24:12.8-00:24:20.8 opinion first hand

  2039. 2039

    An anonymous person claiming to have been debriefed or briefed on the UFO programme just before their release from military service told Raymond Fowler that one thing kept secret is how much the United States knows about UFOs from the Russians.

    “I talked to someone who was debriefed or given a briefing on the UFO program just prior to his release from military service. And he told me that one of the things that they're very anxious to keep a secret is how much we know about UFOs from the Russians.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:24:22.4-00:24:36.5 hearsay second hand

  2040. 2040

    A number of scientists and people formerly associated with the UFO programme appeared several times before the Secretary-General of the United Nations, first U Thant and then Kurt Waldheim, to try to bring UFO information into the open.

    “We tried to get the United Nations to bring this thing out into the open, and a number of scientists and people formerly associated with the UFO program appeared several times before the Secretary of the United Nations, U Thant, and then Kurt Waldheim.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:25:13.6-00:25:32.0 testimony first hand

  2041. 2041

    Gordon Cooper testified before the United Nations about some of what he knew regarding UFOs, and stated that if the United Nations sponsored an open scientific study apart from military studies, he knew of other astronauts and NASA personnel willing to testify if they could do so without penalty.

    “Gordon Cooper appeared and testified to some of the things that he knew and stated that if the United Nations would sponsor an open scientific study apart from the military studies being carried on by other countries, that he knew of other astronauts and other people in NASA that would be willing to testify if they could do so without penalty.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:25:40.8-00:26:00.3 testimony second hand

  2042. 2042

    The United States Air Force publicly states that UFOs are not a threat to national security and are the product of hoaxes, hallucinations, and misinterpretations.

    “yet the Air Force tells the public that UFOs are not a threat to national security. They're the product of hoaxes, hallucinations, and misinterpretations.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:26:47.8-00:26:53.2 administrative second hand

  2043. 2043

    The Robertson Panel report outlined a complete debunking programme for UFOs, including using well-known personalities on TV and radio.

    “they outlined a complete debunking program. And one of the things that they stressed was using well-known personalities to get on TV and radio.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:27:30.3-00:27:39.0 administrative second hand

  2044. 2044

    Raymond Fowler considers that knowledge of UFOs could affect man's evolution, thought, philosophy, and religion across society.

    “knowledge of what's going on could affect man's evolution really, his thought, his philosophy, his religion across all of society.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:28:16.9-00:28:29.6 opinion first hand

  2045. 2045

    People approached by UFOs have received severe burns with symptoms of radiation sickness, including hair falling out, blackening fingernails, sores, diarrhoea, and nausea.

    “People have received very bad burns when being approached by UFO, symptoms of radiation sickness, hair falling out, fingernails blackening, sewers appearing, diarrhea, nausea.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:30:56.9-00:31:13.0 testimony first hand

  2046. 2046

    Raymond Fowler interviewed a Navy pilot who was approached for a long time by UFOs, and both the pilot and his wife were sworn to secrecy and told he might develop symptoms of radiation sickness.

    “We interviewed a Navy pilot that was approached for quite a long time by UFOs. And both he and his wife were sworn to secrecy, told that he may have symptoms of radiation sickness.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:32:39.8-00:32:51.0 testimony second hand

  2047. 2047

    Raymond Fowler observed that the military readily takes care of maladies resulting from a service member's contact with UFOs, but does not admit or take responsibility when civilians are affected.

    “what happens to a military person they're only too anxious to take care of that person's maladies resulting from contact with whatever the ufo... but when it comes to civilians they they don't want to admit that it happened they don't want to take any responsibility for it”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:33:02.5-00:33:20.0 opinion first hand

  2048. 2048

    Some UFO photographs' negatives have been analysed by experts and proved genuine.

    “Other than very, very good photographs, and there are some very good photographs, the negatives have been analyzed by experts and proved genuine.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:33:45.8-00:33:53.0 testimony first hand

  2049. 2049

    Documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act give examples of radar-visual UFO sightings, where ground radar detects an unusual object, an interceptor picks it up on airborne radar, and ground personnel and the pilot visually see the object matching the radar behaviour.

    “Some of the documents that we have received through the Freedom of Information Act give excellent examples of radar visual sightings where ground radar will pick up an unusual behaving object, an interceptor will try to intercept the object, pick it up on airborne radar. Ground personnel, the pilot and the radar observer will see the object, radar will see the object on the ground and from the airborne radar behaving exactly is what they're seeing visually.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:34:00.4-00:34:30.1 testimony second hand

  2050. 2050

    Physical trace cases involving specific indentations, imprints, and scorched areas have been found in locations across the United States and around the world, with similar traces appearing in different countries such as Idaho and France.

    “You have physical trace cases all over the country and all over the world where specific types of indentations, imprints, scorched areas are found. One in Idaho might look like one they found in France, the exact type of thing, exact type of object indicating that something has been there.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:34:35.0-00:34:53.6 testimony first hand

  2051. 2051

    The French government issued its first civilian UFO study, initiating a multi-million dollar investigation approximately five or six years prior, some of whose physical trace cases were found completely unexplainable and attributed to an unidentified flying machine.

    “The French government recently issued their first civilian report they initiated a multi-million dollar study maybe five or six years ago and some of the physical trace cases that they have investigated they claim are completely unexplainable and that they seem to be attributed to a flying machine, which they don't know the origin of the flying machine or how it's sustained and so forth.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:34:54.7-00:35:21.3 administrative first hand

  2052. 2052

    Trained observers around the world have described close UFO encounters as near as their car in their driveway, in wingtip formation, watched for 15 to 20 minutes by more than one person, describing the same flight characteristics.

    “trained observers who don't just see a distant light in the sky, but they see something as close as my car in the driveway, you know, pull up beside them, wingtip formation, and they're able to watch it for 15 to 20 minutes, more than one person, describing the same thing, the same flight characteristics as people are doing all over the world.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:35:41.0-00:35:57.7 testimony first hand

  2053. 2053

    Gordon Cooper indicated that he has heard highly placed rumours concerning crashed UFOs, including retrieval not only of the craft but also remains of bodies.

    “Gordon Cooper, again, indicated that he has heard some highly placed rumors concerning crashed UFOs, a retrieval, he says, not only of just the UFO, but remains of bodies.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:36:06.5-00:36:18.4 hearsay second hand

  2054. 2054

    An individual holding a high managerial position and top-secret clearance at GTE Sylvania, who worked as a civilian for the Air Force in 1953 assessing landing gear and crash damage, told Raymond Fowler that he was taken on a secret mission to examine a crashed vehicle.

    “talking to an individual at GTE who holds a high managerial position, who has a top secret clearance. and who worked as a civilian for the Air Force back in 1953. And his expertise was landing gear and also assessing the damage done to crashed aircraft.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:36:23.5-00:36:43.6 hearsay second hand

  2055. 2055

    The GTE Sylvania manager claimed he was called away from the Frenchman's Flat atomic bomb tests and told to report for a two-to-three-day mission he could not write or talk about.

    “he claims that right in the middle of these tests that he was called away and told to report to a certain office that he was going to have to go on a two-day mission to a three-day mission for something that he couldn't write or talk about.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:37:04.3-00:37:16.3 hearsay second hand

  2056. 2056

    The GTE Sylvania manager claimed he was flown from Indian Springs Air Force Base to a civilian airfield in Arizona, possibly Tucson or Phoenix.

    “He was flown from Indian Springs Air Force Base to a civilian airfield in Arizona. I think it was Tucson or Phoenix. I can't remember.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:37:20.5-00:37:30.0 hearsay second hand

  2057. 2057

    The GTE Sylvania manager claimed that at the airfield he was met by an air policeman who escorted him to a military bus with all windows blacked out, where he was told not to talk and to surrender all his valuables.

    “at the airfield, he was met by an air policeman who escorted him to a military bus that had all the windows blacked out. He got on the bus, and he was told not to talk to anybody, to surrender all his valuables, which he did.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:37:32.0-00:37:43.2 hearsay second hand

  2058. 2058

    The GTE Sylvania manager claimed a full colonel told the assembled group they were going to investigate the crash of a super-secret vehicle they could not talk about, and they had to take an oath.

    “A full colonel, after everybody was assembled, told them they were going to go for a long ride, that they went out to talk to each other, that they were going to investigate the crash of a super secret vehicle which they couldn't talk about and they had to take an oath.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:37:46.2-00:37:57.4 hearsay second hand

  2059. 2059

    The GTE Sylvania manager claimed that upon arrival there was a blinding bright light on the bus, and when he stepped off he initially could not see anything.

    “When they got there, there was a bright light on the bus, blinding bright light. And when it was his turn to get out, he says he couldn't see anything. This light was just blazing.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:38:04.6-00:38:11.2 hearsay second hand

  2060. 2060

    The GTE Sylvania manager claimed he saw an object approximately 9 metres in diameter, shaped like an inverted bowl with a slight rim and orifices.

    “There was this 30 foot in diameter object shaped like a bowl, inverted upon a bowl with a slight rim around it with orifices.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:38:14.0-00:38:20.7 hearsay second hand

  2061. 2061

    The GTE Sylvania manager claimed he was told to determine the falling speed and forward speed of the object at time of impact, and was not to ask any other questions about it.

    “he was told to determine the falling speed and forward speed at time of impact, and that was all. And he wasn't to ask any other questions about the object.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:38:22.2-00:38:32.0 hearsay second hand

  2062. 2062

    The GTE Sylvania manager claimed there were generators and power cables running into the crashed object, with an opening through which people were seen working inside.

    “He said that there were generators there, there were power cables going into the object. There was an opening and there were people inside doing something.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:38:32.9-00:38:40.6 hearsay second hand

  2063. 2063

    The GTE Sylvania manager claimed a tent was pitched beside the crashed object containing the remains of small beings.

    “There was a tent pitched beside the object with remains of small beings.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:38:40.9-00:38:46.2 hearsay second hand

  2064. 2064

    The GTE Sylvania manager claimed each person at the site was told to hand-write (not type) a report of their findings, call a number to have it collected, and were sworn to secrecy.

    “they were going to go back and they were going to hand write a report of their findings. They were not to type it, they were to call a number, it would be reported, it would be picked up, and they were sworn to secrecy.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:38:55.5-00:39:06.0 hearsay second hand

  2065. 2065

    From talking to many people over the years, Raymond Fowler gathered that recovered UFO and body remains are being kept at certain places and that autopsies have been performed on them.

    “From what we gather talking to quite a few people over the years, they are being kept at certain places and that they autopsies have been performed and so forth and so on.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:40:26.3-00:40:40.2 hearsay second hand

  2066. 2066

    Raymond Fowler considers that public belief in UFOs has been driven by a gradual conditioning process moving from simple flyover sightings to close encounters of the first, second, and third kind.

    “I think that we're going through a sort of process that has been instigated by whatever it is. The first sightings were just flyovers, and then you had the close encounters, and then you had the close encounters of the second kind, and then you had the close encounters of the third kind. It was almost a conditioning process”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:51:51.3-00:52:13.3 opinion first hand

  2067. 2067

    Raymond Fowler considers that the growing public acceptance of the existence of UFOs is likely a conditioning process instigated by whatever the UFO phenomenon is.

    “So it seems to be a conditioning thing that we see that we are gradually accepting the existence of whatever they are. I think it's been instigated probably by them”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:52:30.2-00:52:41.2 opinion first hand

  2068. 2068

    Raymond Fowler considers that the government likely withholds certain UFO-related information from the public because it believes disclosure would cause a lot of problems.

    “As far as the government keeping information from the people, there are probably a lot of things that they feel that if the common public knew that it would cause a lot of problems.”

    Raymond Fowler on UFOs, Government Cover-Ups & the Andreasson Affair (Full Interview, 1987) 00:54:44.3-00:54:53.8 opinion first hand

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