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USS Nimitz (CVN-68)

USS Nimitz (CVN-68) is a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier of the United States Navy and lead vessel of the carrier strike group whose pilots reported the 2004 Tic Tac encounter off the coast of California.

CVN-68 · United States Navy (USN) · Nimitz-class nuclear-powered aircraft carrier

USS Nimitz (CVN-68) is a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier, described as the lead vessel of the carrier strike group involved in the 2004 encounter with an unidentified object.1 David Fravor has described the ship as comprising approximately 1.8 hectares of sovereign United States territory that moves around the world’s oceans,2 with its embarked air wing forming its primary weapons capability.3 Christopher K. Mellon has said the carrier is worth approximately five billion US dollars and carries a crew of thousands,4 and has called it one of the premier assets in the United States Navy (USN).5 According to the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) Anomalous Aerial Vehicle (AAV) Incident Report, the ship was home to Carrier Air Wing 11 (CVW-11),6 and the strike group itself, Carrier Strike Group 11 (CSG-11), was comprised of USS Nimitz, USS Princeton (CG-59), USS Chafee, USS Higgins, and USS Louisville (SSN-724).7

David Fravor had an earlier connection to the ship: as a midshipman, he went on his freshman cruise aboard the Nimitz after his first year at the United States Naval Academy.8 During that cruise he observed Fighter Squadron 41 and Fighter Squadron 84, an F-14 Tomcat squadron, together with A-6 Intruder squadrons operating from the carrier,9 and time spent with A-6 Intruder pilots and bombardier-navigators led him to decide he wanted to fly from aircraft carriers.10 By November 2004, Fravor commanded the F/A-18 squadron aboard the Nimitz,11 Strike Fighter Squadron 41 (VFA-41), which was attached to Carrier Air Wing 11 and stationed aboard the carrier.12 That year the Nimitz carrier group began a two-month workup cycle off the coast of California,13 preparing for a combat deployment to the Persian Gulf in support of ground forces in Iraq,14 with the at-sea period scheduled to run from early November to late December 2004.15 In November 2004 the strike group was training approximately 160 kilometres southwest of California San Diego,16 performing drills off the Southern Californian coastline ahead of the Persian Gulf deployment.17

Earlier on 2004-11-14, the commanding officer of Marine Fighter Attack Squadron 232 (VMFA-232) had launched from the Nimitz at approximately 1030 local time in a single-seat F/A-18C to conduct a functional check flight on an aircraft that had recently completed significant maintenance,18 recovering aboard the carrier at approximately 1200.19 Air defence for the exercise was being provided not by the Nimitz itself but by the accompanying Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser, USS Princeton, using its then-new SPY-1 Aegis radar system.20 The Princeton’s radar detected a large number of manoeuvring objects that appeared to be descending from low earth orbit.21 Kevin Day confirmed that the Nimitz’s own radar was tracking the same cluster of 14 unidentified objects as the Princeton’s,22 and the Nimitz launched an E-2 Hawkeye airborne early-warning aircraft, which detected the closest object on its own radar.23 Day recommended to the Nimitz’s commanding officer, Captain James Smith, that aircraft be sent to investigate, and Smith concurred.24 Douglas Kurth was the first pilot to reach the area, arriving at an intercept point approximately 100 kilometres southwest of the Nimitz, where he found only a circular disturbance on the ocean surface, 50-100 metres across.25 His weapons systems officer, Jim Slaight, initially thought the disturbance might be a submarine taking part in the exercise, but this was ruled out by the Nimitz’s intelligence officer in a post-flight debrief.26

Fravor’s flight, flying FA-18 Super Hornet F/A-18Fs, then launched without issue and departed the Nimitz for the working area.27 After checking in with the air controller aboard the USS Princeton, the crew was told the training exercise was being suspended for real-world tasking and were directed toward a contact west of their Combat Air Patrol (CAP) point.28 The object was already waiting at the classified cap point when the pilots arrived, despite the location being known only within the Nimitz’s briefing room.29 Fravor and his wingman intercepted it at close quarters in conditions of perfect visibility,30 encountering a white object shaped like a Tic Tac, approximately 12 metres long and with no wings, manoeuvring in ways Fravor had not previously thought possible.31 As the pair turned back toward the Nimitz, the swarm of objects that had descended toward the ocean shot back above approximately 24,000 metres in a fraction of a second,32 and the flight rejoined and returned to the carrier.33

Back aboard the ship, Fravor’s flight met with the flight of Chad Underwood in the paraloft and passed on what they had seen.34 As Fravor and his wingman returned, a third pair of aircraft was heading out, one flown by Underwood, whose jet was fitted with an Advanced Targeting Forward-Looking Infrared (ATFLIR) targeting pod.35 Underwood’s flight departed the Nimitz, climbed to altitude and separated to begin its own training,36 before returning for a normal approach, landing and shutdown,37 after which the crew debriefed in the Carrier Intelligence Center (CVIC).38 According to the book In Plain Sight, the resulting FLIR1 video was downloaded when Underwood returned to the ship, and conspiracy theories circulated among crewmen who saw it while the Nimitz was still at sea.39 Intelligence officers from the CVIC came to collect the tapes from Fravor’s squadron,40 and Fravor has said he personally went to the CVIC to retrieve them, threatening to “start tearing this place apart” if they were not returned within 30 seconds.41 The returning pilots received a good-natured ribbing about their ‘flying saucer’ sighting from the deck crew, some of whom wore tin-foil hats in jest,42 and for about two days afterwards the air wing’s flight schedule carried joke comics, styled after Men in Black, referencing the encounter and naming Fravor and Underwood as protecting the battle group.43 Immediately afterwards, two unknown individuals, presumably serving military, arrived aboard the Nimitz by navy helicopter.44 Fravor has denied a rumour that unidentified personnel arrived by helicopter aboard the Nimitz and USS Princeton specifically to confiscate recorded data related to the incident.45 No further jets from the Nimitz were sent up to engage the object,46 while USS Louisville was operating in the vicinity throughout the detection and intercept.47 Many crewmen aboard the Nimitz and the Princeton later shared the video via the Navy’s classified email system.48

Little follow-up investigation was conducted after the pilots returned to the Nimitz.49 In October 2019, researcher Christian Lambright filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the US Navy’s Office of Naval Intelligence seeking records of the encounter,50 and according to In Plain Sight, the office subsequently acknowledged holding “Top Secret” records and a “Secret” video relating to the incident, as reported on 2020-01-08.51 Eric Davis’s team was responsible for a covert investigation into the encounter.52 In August 2017 the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP) released a video described as showing a whitish oval object, about the size of a commercial plane, chased by two Navy F/A-18F jets from the Nimitz off the coast of San Diego.53 Unlike the F/A-18 jets flown from the Nimitz in 2004, the F/A-18 jets involved in the 2014-2015 USS Roosevelt encounters carried new advanced AN/APG-79 Radar electronic beam scanning systems.54 Luis Elizondo has said the 2015 USS Roosevelt incursions shared characteristics with the Nimitz encounter, noting that both were nuclear-powered vessels involved in incidents near water,55 and that pilots and radar operators aboard the Roosevelt reported the same abilities that had astonished the Nimitz and Princeton crews a decade earlier.56 Salvatore Pais’s gravity-wave spacecraft patent application was filed in April 2016, twelve years after the Nimitz and its pilots tracked and videoed the object off the west coast.57 Mellon has said he does not consider the object encountered by the Nimitz to have been an experimental US aircraft.58

  1. Nimitz identified as lead vessel of the carrier strike group, a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier
    “The lead vessel was the USS *Nimitz*, a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch15:1402-1467 View the source record →
  2. Fravor describes the carrier as roughly 1.8 hectares of sovereign US territory
    “Nimitz is, uh, an aircraft carrier. So it's, uh, four and a half acres of sovereign U S territory that floats around the U S oceans.”
    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 00:18:41.6-00:18:47.9
  3. the air wing is the carrier's primary weapons capability
    “the air wing is really the weapons. It does have defensive weapons, but for the most part, it's a giant moving airport is what it is.”
    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 00:18:51.4-00:18:58.2
  4. Mellon: ship worth approximately five billion US dollars, crew of thousands
    “We are presently standing within 10 miles of the home port of the USS Nimitz, a $5 billion warship with a crew of thousands.”
    Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 00:13:28.6-00:13:36.6
  5. Mellon: one of the premier assets in the US Navy
    “It is one of the premier assets in the US Navy.”
    Tom DeLonge's 'Sekret Machines' FULL Documentary #ufo #uap 00:13:38.2-00:13:40.6
  6. Nimitz was home to Carrier Air Wing 11
    “The Nimitz was home to Carrier Air Wing 11 (CVW-11)”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:3239-3287 View the source record →
  7. CSG-11 comprised Nimitz, Princeton, Chafee, Higgins and Louisville
    “The CSG was comprised of the following ships and submarine: USS Nimitz (CVN-68), USS Princeton (CG-59), USS Chafee (DDG-90), USS Higgins (DDG-76), and the USS Louisville (SSN-724).”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:3058-3233 View the source record →
  8. Fravor's freshman midshipman cruise aboard Nimitz
    “I went out to the Nimitz on my, uh, freshman cruise after your freshman year at the Naval Academy, you go out on a ship”
    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 00:18:25.8-00:18:31.4
  9. observed VF-41, VF-84 and A-6 Intruder squadrons operating from the carrier
    “the squadrons that were out there, one of the squadrons was a VF 41 and a 14 squadron VF 84, uh, an F 14 squadron, and then a couple of a six squadrons.”
    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 00:19:04.2-00:19:11.8
  10. decided he wanted to fly from aircraft carriers
    “we actually ended up part pairing up and hanging out with some of the a six pilots and BNs. So it was really a neat experience. And I said, I want to do that.”
    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 00:19:12.9-00:19:20.3
  11. Fravor commanded the F/A-18 squadron aboard Nimitz in 2004
    “commander of the F-18 squadron on the USS Nimitz”
    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 00:06:46.6-00:06:49.9
  12. VFA-41 attached to CVW-11, stationed aboard Nimitz in 2004
    “We were attached to Carrier Airwing Eleven and stationed onboard the USS Nimitz (CVN-68).”
    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee char:444-529 View the source record →
  13. two-month workup cycle off the coast of California
    “had begun a 2-month workup cycle off the coast of California”
    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee char:40364-40414 View the source record →
  14. workup cycle preparation for Persian Gulf deployment supporting Iraq ground forces
    “We were at the beginning of our workup cycle that would prepare us for a combat deployment to the Persian Gulf for operations supporting the ground forces in Iraq.”
    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee char:534-692 View the source record →
  15. at-sea period scheduled early November to late December 2004
    “The at-sea period was scheduled to go from Early November to Late December.”
    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee char:698-764 View the source record →
  16. training approximately 160 kilometres southwest of San Diego
    “It was November 2004, and the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group was training about 100 miles southwest of San Diego.”
    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 00:07:14.4-00:07:22.2
  17. drills off Southern California ahead of Persian Gulf deployment
    “On the day in question, November 14, 2004, The USS Nimitz was performing drills off the Southern Californian coastline ahead of deployment to the Persian Gulf.”
    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 00:13:56.8-00:14:12.6
  18. VMFA-232 CO launched FCF in F/A-18C at approximately 1030
    “Lt. Col {{redacted: ~1 word}} Commanding Officer VMFA-232, was flying a single-seat F/A-18C that launched from the USS Nimitz at approximately 1030L to conduct a Functional Check Flight of an aircraft that had recently completed significant maintenance.”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:13202-13443 View the source record →
  19. VMFA-232 CO recovered aboard Nimitz at approximately 1200
    “Lt Col {{redacted: ~1 word}} recovered aboard the Nimitz at approximately 1200L.”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:15870-15944 View the source record →
  20. USS Princeton, not Nimitz, provided air defence via SPY-1 Aegis
    “it was actually the accompanying Ticonderoga-class guided missile cruiser USS Princeton that was providing air defence protection with its then brand-new SPY-1 Aegis radar system”
    In Plain Sight ch16:740-914 View the source record →
  21. Princeton detected objects appearing to descend from low earth orbit
    “the USS *Princeton*, an Aegis-class guided missile cruiser, escorting the mighty aircraft carrier the USS *Nimitz*, detected a large number of maneuvering objects that appeared to be descending from low earth orbit.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch6:7637-7846 View the source record →
  22. Kevin Day confirmed Nimitz radar tracking same cluster of 14 objects as Princeton
    “this time, he confirmed the Nimitz's radar was seeing the same thing”
    In Plain Sight ch16:3446-3511 View the source record →
  23. Nimitz sent up E-2 Hawkeye, detected object on own radar
    “The aircraft carrier also sent up one of its airborne early-warning aircraft – an E2 Hawkeye – and it detected the closest object on its radar.”
    In Plain Sight ch16:3518-3655 View the source record →
  24. Day recommended to Captain Smith that aircraft investigate; Smith concurred
    “Day recommended to the Nimitz's Captain James Smith that they send out aircraft to take a look, and the captain concurred.”
    In Plain Sight ch16:6428-6542 View the source record →
  25. Kurth arrived at intercept point approximately 100km southwest, found only a circular disturbance 50-100m across
    “Somewhere about 100 kilometres south-west of the Nimitz, Kurth arrived at the intercept point, but all he saw was a circular disturbance on the surface of the ocean, 50–100 metres in size.”
    In Plain Sight ch16:7213-7398 View the source record →
  26. Slaight's submarine theory ruled out by Nimitz's intelligence officer
    “Remaining above, weapons systems officer Lieutenant Commander Slaight and his pilot thought it might be a submarine that was part of the exercise, but this was later ruled out by the Nimitz's intelligence officer in a post-flight debriefing.”
    In Plain Sight ch16:8969-9201 View the source record →
  27. Fravor's F/A-18F flight launched without issue, departed for the working area
    “The flight walked, started and launched with no issue. They completed their departure from the USS Nimitz and flew to the working area to conduct the training portion of the flight.”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:16782-16956 View the source record →
  28. flight checked in with Princeton controller, redirected to contact west of CAP point
    “As we launched off the USS Nimitz, we checked in with the air controller on the USS Princeton, we were told that training was going to be suspended for real world tasking. My wingman joined up and we proceeded towards a contact to the west of our CAP (Combat Air Patrol) point.”
    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee char:1349-1620 View the source record →
  29. object already waiting at cap point known only within Nimitz briefing room
    “They go to their cap point. It's a secret. Nobody's meant to know this outside of the briefing room of the USS Nimitz. They get to the cap point, and what's there waiting for them? The tic-tac. It's there. It's waiting for them. It knows they're coming.”
    The UFO Phenomenon | Full Documentary 2021 | 7NEWS Spotlight 00:17:04.6-00:17:21.4
  30. two F/A-18s intercepted object at close quarters in perfect visibility
    “two US Navy F/A-18s from the *Nimitz* managed to intercept one of these strange craft at close quarters in conditions of perfect visibility.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch6:8066-8195 View the source record →
  31. white Tic Tac object, approximately 12m long, no wings
    “I guess it's from the USS Nimitz, you flew and witnessed a 40 foot long white tic-tac shaped object with no wings, flying in ways you've never thought possible”
    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 01:12:41.2-01:12:55.2
  32. swarm shot back above approximately 24,000m in a fraction of a second
    “Inside the USS Princeton's Combat Information Centre astonished operators watched as, once Fravor and his wingman returned to the USS Nimitz, in a fraction of a second, the swarm of other objects that had descended towards the ocean shot back above 80,000 feet.”
    In Plain Sight ch16:15562-15822 View the source record →
  33. flight rejoined and returned to Nimitz
    “Following the engagement, the flight rejoined and returned to the USS Nimitz.”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:21991-22061 View the source record →
  34. met Underwood's flight in the paraloft, passed on what they'd seen
    “The flight met up with LT {{redacted: ~2 words}} and LT Chad Underwood's flight in the paraloft and passed what they had seen.”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:22669-22790 View the source record →
  35. third pair including Underwood, jet fitted with ATFLIR pod, headed out
    “As Commander Fravor and his wingman returned to the USS Nimitz from their Tic Tac encounter that 14 November afternoon, a third pair of aircraft headed out. One of the pilots, Lieutenant Chad Underwood, had what is called an ATFLIR pod on his jet.”
    In Plain Sight ch16:16657-16902 View the source record →
  36. Underwood's flight departed, climbed to altitude, separated for training
    “They completed their departure from the USS Nitmiz, climbed to altitude and separated to begin the training portion of the flight.”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:23825-23948 View the source record →
  37. Underwood's section returned for normal approach, landing, shutdown
    “Following completion of the training portion, the section returned to the ship for a normal approach, landing and shutdown.”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:26640-26754 View the source record →
  38. Underwood's crew debriefed in CVIC
    “The crew met in CVIC and debriefed.”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:26764-26789 View the source record →
  39. FLIR1 video downloaded on return; conspiracy theories among crewmen at sea
    “The ATFLIR video of the encounter was downloaded when Lieutenant Underwood returned to the USS Nimitz; conspiracy theories abound among crewmen who saw the video while the ship was still at sea.”
    In Plain Sight ch16:19232-19424 View the source record →
  40. CVIC intelligence officers came to collect tapes from Fravor's squadron
    “the secure the intelligence guys the intel officers came down from what's called civic cvic which is carrier intel center came down and said, hey, we need the tapes.”
    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 01:40:53.0-01:41:03.2
  41. Fravor retrieved tapes, threatened to 'start tearing this place apart'
    “you have about 30 seconds to get me my tapes before I start tearing this place apart. That's literally what I told him.”
    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 01:41:40.6-01:41:45.9
  42. deck crew ribbing, some wore tin-foil hats in jest
    “What the returning pilots did get was a good-natured ribbing about their 'flying saucer' sighting from the USS *Nimitz*'s deck crew, some of whom were wearing tin-foil hats in jest.”
    In Plain Sight ch16:21796-21972 View the source record →
  43. joke comics on flight schedule for about two days, styled after Men in Black
    “For about two days, they played the Goofy movies. There's a comic on the back of the Air Wing schedule... the second one was me and the guy in my back seat, and it was men in black, but it had our names, you know, protecting the world, protecting the Nimitz battle group type stuff.”
    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 01:38:46.8-01:39:00.5
  44. two unknown individuals arrived by navy helicopter immediately afterwards
    “Immediately after the incident, two unknown individuals, presumably serving military, arrived by navy helicopter on board the *Nimitz*.”
    In Plain Sight ch16:23537-23664 View the source record →
  45. Fravor denied rumour that personnel arrived to confiscate data
    “there's a story that both on the Nimitz and the Princeton, folks in a helicopter landed, they showed up, they took the data... No, no one came out on a helicopter.”
    David Fravor: UFOs, Aliens, Fighter Jets, and Aerospace Engineering | Lex Fridman Podcast #122 01:39:50.2-01:40:00.6
  46. no further jets sent up to engage the craft
    “No further jets from the USS *Nimitz* were sent up to engage the craft.”
    In Plain Sight ch16:21453-21518 View the source record →
  47. USS Louisville operating in vicinity as part of CSG-11 during detection and intercept
    “She was operating in the vicinity of the USS Nimitz as part of the CSG during the detection and intercept of the AAV.”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:27572-27711 View the source record →
  48. crewmen aboard Nimitz and Princeton shared video via classified email
    “By then, many crewmen aboard the *Nimitz* and the *Princeton* had shared the video via the government’s classified email system.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch15:14067-14188 View the source record →
  49. little follow-up investigation after pilots returned to Nimitz
    “Back in 2004, very little follow-up had been conducted when the pilots returned to the *Nimitz*.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch15:13506-13594 View the source record →
  50. October 2019 Lambright FOIA request to ONI
    “In October 2019, researcher Christian Lambright made a Freedom of Information Act request to the US Navy’s Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI), seeking records relating to the USS Nimitz Tic Tac UAP encounter.”
    In Plain Sight ch22:19078-19280 View the source record →
  51. ONI admitted holding Top Secret records and a Secret video, reported 2020-01-08
    “Paul Dean, 'Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) Admits to "Top Secret" Records and "Secret" Video from USS Nimitz "Tic Tac" UFO Incident', UFOs – Documenting The Evidence Blog, 8 January 2020.”
    In Plain Sight ch34:48917-49107 View the source record →
  52. Eric Davis's team responsible for covert investigation
    “Former Bigelow NIDS scientist Dr Eric Davis has admitted that his team was responsible for the covert investigation into the 2004 Tic Tac USS Nimitz incident and they too reached a dramatic conclusion as to who or what was behind it.”
    In Plain Sight ch17:11975-12207 View the source record →
  53. AATIP released video of whitish oval object off San Diego, August 2017
    “including one released in August of a whitish oval object, about the size of a commercial plane, chased by two Navy F/A-18F fighter jets from the aircraft carrier Nimitz off the coast of San Diego in 2004.”
    Glowing Auras and 'Black Money': The Pentagon's Mysterious U.F.O. Program (Published 2017) char:2946-3146 View the source record →
  54. 2014-2015 Roosevelt F/A-18s had new APG-79 radar, unlike 2004 Nimitz jets
    “unlike those on the USS Nimitz ten years earlier, they had new advanced APG-79 electronic beam scanning radar systems”
    In Plain Sight ch22:652-764 View the source record →
  55. Elizondo: Roosevelt incursions shared characteristics with Nimitz encounter
    “The situation had all the hallmarks of the Nimitz/Princeton case back in 2004. Like the Nimitz, the Roosevelt was a nuclear-powered vessel. Two of the boxes were ticked: water and nukes.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch23:2114-2300 View the source record →
  56. Elizondo: Roosevelt crews reported same abilities that astonished Nimitz/Princeton crews
    “The crew reported the UAP displayed the same abilities that dazzled the Nimitz and Princeton crews a decade earlier.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch23:2553-2665 View the source record →
  57. Pais patent filed April 2016, 12 years after Nimitz tracked and videoed the object
    “it means the US Navy officially claims to be developing an anti-gravity craft, a patent applied for in April 2016, 12 years after the USS Nimitz and its pilots tracked and videoed the Tic Tac UAP off the west coast.”
    In Plain Sight ch28:3496-3707 View the source record →
  58. Mellon: does not consider the object an experimental US aircraft
    “'Clearly this is not an experimental US aircraft but whose is it?' Mellon asked.”
    In Plain Sight ch21:3329-3394 View the source record →

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