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Alex Dietrich

American former US Navy pilot who, alongside David Fravor, was one of the aircrew involved in the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter.

Strike Fighter Squadron 41 (VFA-41), Black Aces · Lieutenant Junior Grade (2004) · US Navy pilot, F/A-18F Super Hornet, FastEagle 02

Alex Dietrich is a former United States Navy (USN) aviator best known, alongside David Fravor, for her role in the 2004 USS Nimitz UAP encounter. According to the Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report, she was the pilot of FastEagle 02, one of two F/A-18Fs of Strike Fighter Squadron 41 (VFA-41) involved in the intercept and visual contact with the Anomalous Aerial Vehicle (AAV) on 2004-11-14.1 At the time she held the rank of Lieutenant Junior Grade and flew the other US Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet involved in the encounter.2

On 2004-11-14, Dietrich and Fravor, each with a weapon systems officer in the back seat, were diverted to investigate radar contacts reported by USS Princeton (CG-59).3 Fravor detached Dietrich’s F/A-18F, which held at approximately 6,100 metres, while his own aircraft descended to between approximately 3,700 and 4,900 metres.4

According to Imminent: Inside the Pentagon’s Hunt for UFOs, the two pilots, flying at approximately 6,100 metres, looked down and saw the sea below churning in one spot, with whitecaps and a patch of bubbles rising from the water.5 Dietrich circled above while Fravor descended for a closer look at the object.6 The same source states that all four pilots noticed a bizarre object darting back and forth over the whitecaps, about 15 metres above the water.7 Fravor’s weapon systems officer maintained a running dialogue over the interflight radio with Dietrich’s FastEagle 02 and reported what they were seeing to USS Princeton.8 Dietrich’s own weapon systems officer was known by the call sign “Noodle”; together they made up FASTEAGLE 02.9

Dietrich said she initially tried to categorise the unidentified object as possibly a helicopter or a drone.10 She has described feeling vulnerable during the encounter because they had nothing with which to defend themselves.11 Dietrich said that had she witnessed the object alone, she might not have reported it because of how implausible it would sound.12 She described the Tic Tac object encountered during the 2004 USS Nimitz Unidentified Aerial Phenomena / Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) encounter as manoeuvring in a “playful” manner.13

Dietrich flew at Fravor’s wing during the encounter and had never spoken publicly about it before a 2021 interview.14 She has said she feels a responsibility to share her account because she was in a government aircraft, was on duty, and the material is unclassified.15 Years afterwards, Dietrich contacted Fravor to ask whether he had been contacted about the incident.16 Fravor, who had by then retired from the Navy, told her he had not been contacted since 2009, but that he was happy to meet with anyone who wanted to talk.17 Dietrich told Fravor that she had been invited to the Pentagon multiple times to discuss the encounter and to view other Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) videos.18

According to Luis Elizondo, neither Fravor nor Dietrich displayed any propensity to exaggerate, and their crews perceived them as the best of the best.19 Elizondo said that Dietrich, whose call sign was “New Girl”, was more skilled and deadly as a pilot than the call sign suggested.20 He said that, fresh out of training, she flew circles around her peers, which was probably the reason she was handpicked for her assignment with the Black Aces squadron.21 Elizondo said he later heard a story that Dietrich had more confirmed kills in a period of time than the entire United States Marine Corps (USMC).22 Brad Byers and Shari Smith requested extensive data and asked to speak with the pilot witnesses Fravor and Dietrich, along with a radar operator, in connection with briefing James Mattis on UAP.23 Elizondo also arranged for Christopher Mellon to take part in official debriefings with Fravor, Dietrich, and other US Navy personnel who had seen UAP up close or on military sensor systems.24

  1. Pilot of FastEagle 02, one of two F/A-18Fs of VFA-41 involved in the intercept and visual contact with the AAV on 2004-11-14
    “FASTEAGLE 02 Pilot: LT Alex 'Cardiac' Dietrich, USN/WSO: LCDR {{redacted: ~2 words}}, USN”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:16476-16564 View the source record →
  2. Lieutenant Junior Grade, piloted the other F/A-18 Super Hornet involved in the encounter
    “Making up the other half of the team was another US Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet piloted by Lieutenant Junior Grade Alex Dietrich”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch15:4687-4804 View the source record →
  3. Diverted with Fravor, each with a WSO in the back seat, to investigate USS Princeton's radar contacts
    “On November 14, Fravor and Dietrich, each with a weapons system officer in the backseat, were diverted to investigate.”
    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 00:07:39.4-00:07:46.0
  4. Fravor detached Dietrich's F/A-18F, held at ~6,100 metres, while his aircraft descended to 3,700-4,900 metres
    “At this point CDR Fravor detached FASTEAGLE02, which held at approximately 20,000 feet, and FASTEAGLE01 descended to between 12-16,000 feet.”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:18663-18798 View the source record →
  5. The two pilots, flying at ~6,100 metres, saw the sea below churning in one spot, with whitecaps and bubbles
    “Fravor and Dietrich were flying their aircraft at approximately 20,000 feet when they both looked down into the sea. It was a gorgeous day, the sea calm. In this one spot in the Pacific, the water churned and roiled. It looked the way the surface of the water would look if a ship or some other vessel had sunk. There were whitecaps floating on the water and a giant patch of bubbles rising from them.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch15:5353-5749 View the source record →
  6. Dietrich circled above while Fravor descended for a closer look
    “As Dietrich circled above, Fravor went in for a closer look.”
    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 00:08:12.3-00:08:16.3
  7. All four pilots noticed a bizarre object darting back and forth about 15 metres above the water
    “At this moment, all four pilots noticed something even stranger. A bizarre object darted back and forth over the whitecaps, about 50 feet above the water.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch15:5756-5904 View the source record →
  8. Fravor's WSO maintained a running dialogue with Dietrich's FastEagle 02 and reported to USS Princeton
    “LT {{redacted: ~1 word}} communicated what they were seeing with Poison control and said that he had a running dialogue on the Interflight radio with FastEagle 02.”
    Nimitz Carrier Strike Group (CSG-11) AAV Incident Report char:19358-19518 View the source record →
  9. Dietrich's WSO was known as 'Noodle'; together they made up FASTEAGLE 02
    “Accompanying Dietrich as her WSO was another aviator known by the call sign “Noodle.” Together, New Girl and Noodle made up FASTEAGLE 02.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch15:5214-5348 View the source record →
  10. Dietrich initially tried to categorise the object as possibly a helicopter or a drone
    “I'm going to categorize this as maybe a helicopter or maybe a drone.”
    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 00:08:53.0-00:08:57.0
  11. Dietrich felt vulnerable because they had nothing with which to defend themselves
    “I felt the vulnerability of not having anything to defend ourselves.”
    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 00:13:37.4-00:13:40.8
  12. Dietrich said that alone she might not have reported the object given how implausible it would sound
    “if I saw this solo, I don't know that I would have come back and said anything because it sounds so crazy when I say it”
    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 00:09:23.5-00:09:30.3
  13. Dietrich described the Tic Tac object as manoeuvring in a 'playful' manner
    “Navy fighter pilot Alex Dietrich described the 2004 Tic Tac as maneuvering in a "playful" manner.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch17:11594-11684 View the source record →
  14. Dietrich flew at Fravor's wing and had never spoken publicly about the encounter before this interview
    “flying at his wing, Lieutenant Alex Dietrich, who has never spoken publicly about the encounter”
    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 00:06:50.6-00:06:56.2
  15. Dietrich feels a responsibility to share her account as she was in a government aircraft, on duty, unclassified material
    “Because I was in a government aircraft, because I was on the clock, and so I feel a responsibility to share what I can, and it is unclassified.”
    Navy pilots describe encounters with UFOs 00:07:02.7-00:07:11.2
  16. Dietrich contacted Fravor years later to ask if he had been contacted about the incident
    “Years later, I was contacted by the other pilot, Alex Dietrich, and asked if I would been contacted”
    Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency char:43940-44030 View the source record →
  17. Fravor, retired from the Navy, told Dietrich he had not been contacted since 2009 but was happy to meet anyone
    “I had since retired and my answer was no, but I told her if folks wanted to talk, I was happy to meet with them.”
    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee char:5413-5520 View the source record →
  18. Dietrich told Fravor she had been invited to the Pentagon multiple times to discuss the encounter and view other UAP videos
    “Alex stated that she had been invited to the Pentagon multiple times to discuss the event and view other videos of UAPs.”
    David Fravor Statement for the House Oversight Committee char:5526-5641 View the source record →
  19. Elizondo: neither Fravor nor Dietrich displayed any propensity to exaggerate; their crews saw them as the best of the best
    “Neither Fravor nor Dietrich had displayed any propensity to exaggerate. Their crews perceived them as the best of the best.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch15:14284-14402 View the source record →
  20. Elizondo: Dietrich, call sign 'New Girl', was more skilled and deadly than the call sign suggested
    “Making up the other half of the team was another US Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet piloted by Lieutenant Junior Grade Alex Dietrich, who was more skilled and deadly than her call sign—“New Girl”—suggested.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch15:4687-4876 View the source record →
  21. Elizondo: fresh out of training she flew circles around her peers, probably why she was picked for Black Aces
    “Fresh out of training, Dietrich flew circles around her peers, probably the reason she was handpicked for her assignment with the Black Aces.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch15:4887-5023 View the source record →
  22. Elizondo heard a story that Dietrich had more confirmed kills in a period than the entire USMC
    “A few years later, I heard a story that Alex had more confirmed kills in a period of time than the entire US Marine Corps. I never knew if the story was true, but I would not doubt it.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch15:5029-5210 View the source record →
  23. Byers and Smith requested data and asked to speak with Fravor and Dietrich in connection with briefing Mattis on UAP
    “They asked for reams of data. They asked to speak to our pilot witnesses. We brought in Fravor, Dietrich, and a radar operator.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch28:1468-1613 View the source record →
  24. Elizondo arranged for Mellon to take part in official debriefings with Fravor, Dietrich, and other Navy personnel
    “he later arranged for me to participate in official debriefings with Commander Fravor, Lieutenant Alex Dietrich, and other Navy personnel who had seen UAP up close or on military sensor systems.”
    Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's Hunt for UFOs ch6:9189-9375 View the source record →

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