Malin had once been part of a project to analyse Meier's purported UFO photographs
“Malin, among other interesting affiliations, had once been part of a project to analyze the purported UFO photographs of infamous “contactee” Billy Meier.”
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Malin, then an associate professor at Arizona State University, concluded the photographs were not fakes
“In that capacity, Malin, then an associate professor at Arizona State University, had concluded that Meier’s controversial photographs were not fakes.”
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Malin considers the photographs credible, describing them as good photographs
““I find the photographs themselves credible, they’re good photographs,” he commented at the time.”
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The photo investigation was organised by Wendelle Stevens, a retired US Air Force lieutenant colonel
“The Meier photo investigation had been organized by well-known UFO investigator Wendelle Stevens (Lt. Col., USAF, ret.) and also focused on similar prime cases.”
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All scientists selected for the Meier photo testing signed non-disclosure agreements
“All selected scientists signed non-disclosure agreements (which later came back to haunt Stevens and Dilettoso when cynical “skeptics” contacted some of these people to verify their participation, and the scientists predictably denied they’d taken part).”
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Jim Dilettoso visited Bob Nathan at JPL with four purportedly legitimate photographs and two controls
“Dilettoso had already visited Bob Nathan ... at JPL a few times to have him analyze four “legitimate” Meier photos and two “control pictures,” and it was Nathan that steered him to Malin.”
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Around 1980, Stevens and Dilettoso brought the same photographs to Malin's laboratory at ASU
“Stevens and Dilettoso went back to Malin’s lab at ASU around 1980, with the same four Meier photos and two controls that they had taken to everyone else.”
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Malin digitised the photographs and performed preliminary analysis, continuing study in following weeks
“Malin digitized them and did some preliminary analysis while they were there, and did further study in the weeks following.”
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Malin told Dilettoso he had spent considerable time examining the photographs
“He told Dilettoso in a subsequent visit that he had spent quite some time with the photographs.”
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Malin found no evidence of superimposition ("dubbing") in the photographs he examined
“Malin’s findings were that he found no evidence of superimposition, or “dubbing,” as he called it.”
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Malin gave no written report, as none had been requested
“He gave them no written report, as they had not asked for one.”
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Stevens and Dilettoso never retrieved or erased the digitised images from Malin's system
“They never went back to retrieve or erase the images, which were now digitized and in Malin’s system, since they thought it would be good for him to have them and pass them around to his colleagues, which they assumed that he did.”
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Malin told Gary Kinder he found no evidence of a hoax but was not convinced the objects were extraterrestrial spacecraft
“Malin reiterated that he had found no evidence of a hoax, and he said so to Kinder, but he was not yet convinced that the objects in the images were extraterrestrial spacecraft.”
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Malin reserved judgement on the more spectacular aspects of the story
“Malin chose to reserve judgment on the more spectacular aspects of Meier’s story, but this early foray into such arcane territory showed that he was at least willing to consider unusual or even bizarre claims like Meier’s.”
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Meier had his arm ripped off and teeth smashed, and was delirious for 30 days after amputation without anaesthetic
“You have your arm ripped off your body and all of your teeth smashed at the same time, and you're delirious for 30 days because they amputate what remains of your arm without anesthetic.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Until about age 16, Meier claims to have been tutored by Sfath, said to be around 900 years old
“until he was about the age of 16, he claims to have been tutored by this man named Sfath, S-F-A-T-H, who was at that time supposedly around 900 years of age.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier is claimed to have taken approximately 1,200 authenticated UFO photographs
“if this man has indeed taken 1,200 or so UFO photos... And they've been authenticated.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier has said the meaning of life is the evolution of consciousness
“And Billy has said the meaning of life is the evolution of consciousness.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Bob Lazar and Billy Meier are two of the most contentious names in the UFO field
“there are a few names that you can drop and instantly, you know, people will start feuding. And two of those names are Bob Lazar and Billy Meier.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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The 'I Want to Believe' poster in The X-Files is a cropped version of a Meier photo
“The most famous Billy Meier reference would definitely be that, you know, poster that appears in pretty much every X-Files episode, the I Want to Believe, the cropped version of a Billy Meier photo.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier claims that since age five he has met with beings from another star system who tutored him
“Billy Meier is a now 89-year-old man who claims that since the age of five he has been meeting with human beings from another star system, that they have tutored him from that age”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Horn has made about 22 trips to Switzerland to meet with Meier
“after about 22 trips that I've gone to Switzerland, taken to Switzerland, and met with him each time, spent some time, sometimes it's a half hour, sometimes it's an hour and a half”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Threats and attempts on Meier's life have totalled 28
“Some of that reason is threats and attempts on his life that have totaled 28 by now.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier has published tens of thousands of pages of contact notes and information
“massive amounts of information, tens of thousands of pages he's published so far.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier's published content dates back to 1946, when he was around nine
“the content dates back to 1946. when he was something like nine years old and was publishing information, disseminating it.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Eight of Meier's films remain; others disappeared and are understood to have been stolen
“There's eight films remaining. Billy had taken more. They disappeared. Stolen is what we understand.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier turned over metal samples and sound recordings for analysis, the recordings made before 15-20 eyewitnesses
“He turned over the metal samples, the sound recordings he made out in a big field with, you know, 15, 20 eyewitnesses.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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In total, Meier is claimed to have taken approximately 1,200 photographs, eight surviving films and a video
“if this man has indeed taken 1,200 or so UFO photos, eight films that remain, a video”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Investigators including Wendell Stevens had a model of one of the craft built at MGM studios in Hollywood to test for hoaxing
“when the investigators wendell stevens and others were trying to also figure out if Billy was hoaxing these photos they wendell had a model made at the mgm studios in hollywood of one of the craft”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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In 1964 Meier was a vagabond wandering around India with a knapsack
“how does this vagabond in India in 1964, which Billy was, wandering around with a knapsack”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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In 1964 Meier was interviewed by an Indian newspaper journalist who looked through an album of 80 UFO photographs
“Because Billy was interviewed in a prominent newspaper in India, and the journalist who interviewed him is looking through an album with 80 UFO photos in 1964.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier took his 1964 photographs with an early Kodak box camera, of relatively primitive 1940s technology
“these are primitive, taken with an old Kodak... This is 40s technology. And Billy was taking his photographs at that time in 1964 with this early version of a Kodak.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Asket was Meier's second alleged contact person
“I used to see Billy meeting with this woman, Asket. This was his second alleged contact person.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
00:52:59.9-00:53:08.7
The term 'Pleiadian' was invented by Meier and the beings and later given up
“people called this word pleiadian that Billy and they invented there's no such thing as pleiadians you can flush that and they gave that up after a while because they predicted certain things and it came true about all these people that would come forward claiming to be contactees”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
00:55:33.6-00:55:59.3
Meier and his first wife were married for 30 years before divorcing
“His ex-wife, who they had very acrimonious relationship 30 years of marriage and then they got divorced”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier has three adult children: Atlantis, Atlant and Gilgamesha
“He has three adult children, Atlantis, Atlant, and Gilgamesha.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Atlantis is featured in the film The Silent Revolution of Truth and is one of Meier's two natural sons
“Atlantis is featured in one of our films... when we did this film, The Silent Revolution of Truth, one of Billy's two natural sons”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
00:57:23.1-00:57:49.3
Meier's material began getting out in Europe from 1975, before English translation
“Starting in 1975, it's getting out in Europe before it's translated into English, and people are already interested or attacking him.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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As a teenage boy Meier ran away from Switzerland to avoid juvenile detention
“he ran away from switzerland as a teenage boy because they wanted to put him into a juvenile detention center... this woman had grabbed a towel... started to beat him with it and he'd had enough... slapped her around with it”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
01:02:38.3-01:03:18.4
Meier joined the French Foreign Legion for a while, then returned to Switzerland
“Billy decides that he thinks he'll take a trip to the french foreign legion and avoid some consequences which he did. And he was in the French Foreign Legion for a while... he did not want to become a trained killer, and he would return to Switzerland and face the music”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
01:03:18.4-01:03:41.4
The Pleiaren, as the Befath recognised, saw Meier as an obstacle to their agenda and engineered attacks on his life
“Billy Meier was someone on the planet that uh would be an obstacle to their agenda they knew that he was meeting with let's say the lighter side... and the Pleiarian and uh they engineered some attacks on his life.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier published information about intelligences beneath the Giza pyramid in 1953
“1953... He published that information... Billy Meier wrote about that in 1953.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier was tutored by Sfath for 11 years, who said his next teacher would guide him for a further 11
“after 11 years of being tutored by Sfath, Sfath is going to pass out of life, and he says, you will meet your next teacher, she... And she's more advanced in knowledge than I am in certain things... and she will guide you for the next 11 years.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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After Sfath passed away, Meier began hearing a woman's voice, starting his contact with Asket
“sure enough, he passes away, and shortly thereafter, very quickly, he hears a woman's voice speaking to him in his head”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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As early as 1953 Asket gave Meier prophecies including the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy
“As early as 1953, She tells him about the assassination in America of two brothers who will be running for president. The date that it will happen, John Fitzgerald Kennedy will be killed in Dallas, Texas on this day.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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In 1987 Meier was given the Henoch Prophecies, some 300 specific predictions
“In 1987, Billy is given something called the Henoch prophecies... It's like 300, I think, specific things.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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In 2011 Horn visited Meier to make a film featuring about 50 of the prophecies
“2011 was also a year in which I went and visited Billy and we were making a film where we have like 50 of these prophecies in the film.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Asket took Meier to the pyramids in Egypt, where she knew an entrance leading deep underground
“she picks him up and uh they go to egypt they leave the ship and They go to the pyramids and somehow she knows where this entrance is that goes, you can walk way deep down.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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In the underground chamber, Asket said relics resembling crucifixion artefacts were made by the Befath, not genuine
“oh my gosh, that's the cross of the crucifixion. And there's the spear of destiny, the crown of thorns, the bloody nails... And she says, no, they are not. They were made by these people. But if your scientists on earth would test them, they would carbon date to that period of time.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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In 1982 Meier gave a radio interview on a Swiss radio station network, before a later accident causing a brain injury
“in 1982, Billy gives a radio interview with an English-speaking man on a Swiss radio station network or something. ... This is before he had also an accident where he had a brain injury.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
01:45:05.3-01:45:51.8
Billy Meier follows a lineage of prophets and is the seventh and final person to deliver these messages
“he follows like this sort of long lineage of prophets ... he's like the seventh one. ... Seventh and final person.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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The prophets prior to Meier in the lineage are named as Enoch, Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Jmmanuel and Muhammad
“Well, you've got Enoch or Henoch, Elijah, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Emmanuel. We'll get back there. Muhammad and Billy.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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The man crucified and falsely named Jesus Christ was, per the material, named Jmmanuel
“Emmanuel, was crucified, that's the name of the man according to the Meier material, the real man who was falsely named Jesus Christ.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier, with Greek Orthodox priest Isa Rashid, dug into a hillside near Jerusalem that proved to be an ancient tomb
“Well, Billy Meier, along with a Greek Orthodox priest, I think it's about 63, 64, right in there, telepathically, our lid story goes, the outskirts of Jerusalem, there's a hillside ... at the base of it, there's a hole in there. ... The man that he is with is named or called Isa Rashid.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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In the tomb, Meier and Rashid found resin-encrusted, animal-skin-wrapped scrolls written in Aramaic
“They find resin-encrusted, animal-wrapped, animal skin wrapped scrolls. written in Aramaic.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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As Meier could not read Aramaic, he asked Rashid to translate the scrolls and send the translation
“Billy does not read and write Aramaic. He knows what Isa is here for, and he says, okay, you will take this and translate, please, and send me the translation.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Rashid and his family were later killed in Baghdad, ostensibly by the Mossad
“a few years later, I think it's around 1974, he learns that Issa Rashid and his family have been machine gunned to death in Baghdad, ostensibly by the Mossad.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier later found Rashid had altered parts of the text to fit his own religious beliefs
“Billy has received all of this stuff in German. ... he discovers later more that Isa Rashid had changed certain things based on his own religiosity. There were certain things in here that didn't fit with his beliefs.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
02:06:13.1-02:06:38.2
Meier said the term 'spiritual teaching' was incorrect, and what is meant is the creation energy teaching
“It is what was formerly called the spiritual teaching. And then Billy finally, after decades says, this is an incorrect word. ... This is the creation energy.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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The creation energy teaching is one the Pleiaren access at levels humans do not, which Meier did not create
“the teaching, which he didn't create, and which is a teaching the Pleiaren have access to and levels of it that we don't”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier has written over 60 books, of which about a dozen are translated into English
“he's written over 60 books, and only maybe a dozen are translated into English.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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Meier declined a Pleiaren offer of a replacement arm, citing the risk of military kidnapping and dissection
“they offered to give him a fake arm. No, thank you. I'm an earth person. ... if suddenly I appear with a left arm, how long is it going to take for some military to kidnap my butt and start taking me apart?”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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A 1976 Meier prophecy foretold seven-foot-tall giants emerging in Peru
“1976 it's in books and everything else ... this is the petali level ... they spoke about the time that will come in Peru when the seven-foot-tall giants will emerge from their centuries-long hiding places underground to molest the people there.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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The reported Peru giants event occurred approximately 47 years after the prophecy was published
“that verifiably 47 years or whatever it is after that was published, that event occurred right down to where and the size of the people.”
Revealing The Nordic Alien Prophecies - Michael Horn | DEBRIEFED ep. 92
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