The Hypnotist Who Unlocked Betty & Barney Hill’s Alien Memories | Dr. Benjamin Simon Speaks

“He's a psychiatrist in the Boston area”

“he was called on to interview, psychoanalyze, and hypnotize Betty Hill and Barney Hill”

“Well, it was in late '63, quite near Christmas time. And I kept an appointment which my secretary had made with a Mr. Barney Hill.”

“He gave me the several stories that he had been under treatment for about a year with a New Hampshire psychiatrist. for marked anxiety, had also symptoms of high blood pressure. And over the year, he hadn't gotten very far and was ultimately recommended to me by his psychiatrist.”

“had also symptoms of high blood pressure”

“they began almost at the beginning with a six-page report from NICAP...this was the story of their seeing an unidentified flying object, which was investigated by a NICAP investigator who made this report”

“He had intimated that they were put on his people and that he believed the story.”

“That story had first come to light doing the treatment by his New Hampshire psychiatrist.”

“Barney's symptoms had begun just after they had this supposed sighting.”

“Betty had responded by a series of dreams extending over a week or more about nightmarish quality.”

“to take both of the treatment and to use hypnosis to penetrate what appeared to be an amnesic period with very vague background. The only feeling they had was that coming back on a trip from Canada, they got home about two hours later than they should have, and they had no idea what had happened”

“I took them back to a starting point of Montreal. They had been to Niagara Falls and were coming home. And Montreal, you might say, was at the top of the journey...coming down to New Hampshire.”

“Barney and Betty gave the same story. And that story was precisely like the story that had been written up by the NICAP investigators. There were no significant difference, in fact, actually no differences between the three.”

“What marked the trip, particularly from Barney's point of view, up to the time of the sighting, was a revelation, coming mostly from his unconscious, of the marked anxiety he had in being a black man in a white culture.”

“up to the point of the sighting and those experiences, the two stories were exactly alike...Betty's experiences were far more vivid, fog there, and much more material there than Barney, who simply felt himself as being supportive with his eyes closed...Nothing of Betty's story, but nothing was in Barney's story.”

“Betty's story went on beyond that in telling the story of having been, that the UFO had landed, had made beeping sounds and had stalled their motor and various things of that sort and had caused silver-like spots to appear on their car.”

“She went on with a fantastic story of having been taken aboard. She described Barney as, with his eyes closed, as sort of suspended between two men who were half dragging him along to the same vehicle, and she had her eyes open and did not have to be dragged, and she was taken along by what appeared to be the leader of the group”

“there's one thing that is important that a hypnotized person tells the truth. But you've got to remember...that he tells it as he sees it, as it sees the truth to him, which may not be the true reality. That doesn't mean he has lied or maligned.”

“She said she had written them down at the time they occurred. That means way back in '61. But couldn't find... I asked her to bring it in. She said she couldn't find the dreams.”

“they were exactly alike with one difference. That in the dreams, she went up both a ramp and steps.”

“that gave me an answer at that point, that this fantastic story was her dreams, and therefore we could fit that very well with reality...I was satisfied. I didn't have to look any further for an explanation. I wouldn't have to accept under our present conditions the existence of this just amount of space”

“I must define UFO as I see it. It means an unidentified flying object, and that's all it means. It can be Mendel's balloons, weather balloons, misinterpreted, or anything else. It does not by its definition, imply visitation from out of space”

“Menzel of Harvard has described many aerial phenomena, weather balloons and thoughts that under certain weather conditions can look like UFOs.”

“A class in Washington has cited, has mentioned his theory of ball lightning as a base stimulus.”

“the two stimuli, without giving the story, turned out to be the American Airlines plane, and the one which I saw long before I ever knew the Hill's and one subsequently unseen by me, and another is a guy that turned out to be a brilliantly lighted sign outside of Hartford, which was reflected through misty sky.”